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Title: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: denarii on October 26, 2014, 06:04:05 AM
I dont even know where to start. Even a school child can understand that all govt does is spend other peoples earned income, while it is small, med, large corporations that invest and create jobs. Her comments on socialized healthcare are true though. Large scale, high upfront cost, complex things like healthcare, schools, police, military, transport infrastructure are usually done better by the govt if well managed.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-25/hillary-business-does-not-create-jobs-washington-does

We have a very serious problem with Hillary. I was asked years ago to review Hillary’s Commodity Trading to explain what went on. Effectively, they did trades and simply put winners in her account and the losers in her lawyer’s. This way she gets money that is laundered through the markets – something that would get her 25 years today.

People forget, but Hillary was really President – not Bill. Just 4 days after taking office, Hillary was given the authority to start a task force for healthcare reform. The problem was, her vision was unbelievable. The costs upon business were oppressive so much so that not even the Democrats could support her. When asked how was a small business mom and pop going to pay for healthcare she said if they could not afford it they should not be in business. From that moment on, my respect for her collapsed. She revealed herself as a real Marxist.

Now, that she can taste the power of Washington, and I dare say she will not be a yes person as Obama and Bush seem to be, therein lies the real danger. Giving her the power of dictator, which is the power of executive orders, I think I have to leave the USA just to be safe.

Hillary has stated when she ran the White House before regarding her idea of healthcare, “We can’t afford to have that money go to the private sector. The money has to go to the federal government because the federal government will spend that money better than the private sector will spend it.” When has that ever happened?

Hillary believes in government at the expense of the people. I do not say this lightly, because here she goes again. She just appeared at a Boston rally for Democrat gubernatorial candidate Martha Coakley on Friday. She was off the hook and amazingly told the crowd gathered at the Park Plaza Hotel not to listen to anybody who says that “businesses create jobs.”

“Don’t let anybody tell you it’s corporations and businesses create jobs,” Clinton said.

“You know that old theory, ‘trickle-down economics,’” she continued. “That has been tried, that has failed. It has failed rather spectacularly.”

“You know, one of the things my husband says when people say ‘Well, what did you bring to Washington,’ he said, ‘Well, I brought arithmetic,’” Hillary said.

I wrote an OpEd for the Wall Street Journal on Clinton’s Balanced Budget. It was smoke and mirrors. Long-term interest rates were sharply higher than short-term. Clinton shifted the national debt to save interest expenditures. He also inherited a up-cycle in the economy that always produces more taxes.

Yet she sees no problem with the math of perpetually borrowing. Perhaps she would get to the point of being unable to sell debt and just confiscate all wealth since government knows better. Their job on keeping Ebola out is just fantastic so far? Just a few people popping up here and there. Maybe everyone from New York should get a free weekend to visit Washington.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: 240 is Back on October 26, 2014, 07:11:13 AM
???

"As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," – Mitt Romney, October 16.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 26, 2014, 07:25:06 AM
???

"As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," – Mitt Romney, October 16.

Jesus, your trolling is getting lurker-like without the profanities.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Kazan on October 26, 2014, 09:31:21 AM
???

"As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," – Mitt Romney, October 16.

Anybody with a modicum of intelligence knows the government doesn't create jobs. All they can do is set conditions (taxes, regulations.......) that will be favorable to business.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: 240 is Back on October 26, 2014, 10:12:04 AM
Anybody with a modicum of intelligence knows the government doesn't create jobs. All they can do is set conditions (taxes, regulations.......) that will be favorable to business.

agree.   politicians make all sorts of bonehead statements, depending upon the room they're in.  Romney didn't sing "who let the dogs out" in a room full of millionaires, and he didn't chide the 47% of worthless scum when he was on the street meeting urban youth.  And the spray tan for univiison... lol...
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Wolfox on October 26, 2014, 11:32:15 AM
???

"As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," – Mitt Romney, October 16.

roflmao
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: 2Thick on October 26, 2014, 01:37:05 PM
Romney certainly has a far better business track record than Hillary's nonexistent one. He'd know far more about creating an environment that fosters job growth than she would.

But it doesn't matter - she's who the media want, and they've already convinced the majority to vote for her... at least so far. If another Obama emerges, or if someone like Oprah would run, they'd probably throw Hillary under the bus again.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Dos Equis on October 27, 2014, 09:48:40 AM
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"As president, I will create 12 million new jobs," – Mitt Romney, October 16.

The board's biggest Obama/liberal apologist to the rescue. 

I don't see that quote from Romney.  According to the transcript, here is what he said:

"That’s why I put out a five-point plan that gets America 12 million new jobs in four years and rising take-home pay. It’s going to help Jeremy get a job when he comes a out of school. It’s going to help people across the country that are unemployed right now."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/16/us/politics/transcript-of-the-second-presidential-debate-in-hempstead-ny.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 27, 2014, 09:52:00 AM
The board's biggest Obama/liberal apologist to the rescue. 

I don't see that quote from Romney.  According to the transcript, here is what he said:

"That’s why I put out a five-point plan that gets America 12 million new jobs in four years and rising take-home pay. It’s going to help Jeremy get a job when he comes a out of school. It’s going to help people across the country that are unemployed right now."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/16/us/politics/transcript-of-the-second-presidential-debate-in-hempstead-ny.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

180 will kneepad Hillary
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Dos Equis on October 27, 2014, 10:05:30 AM
180 will kneepad Hillary

No doubt.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: 240 is Back on October 27, 2014, 10:14:34 AM
I don't see that quote from Romney.  According to the transcript, here is what he said:

Right at :14, to start the video, Romney's exact quote is: "I Have a Plan to Create 12 Million Jobs".

Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Dos Equis on October 27, 2014, 10:16:40 AM
Right at :14, to start the video, Romney's exact quote is: "I Have a Plan to Create 12 Million Jobs".



Why did you post a false quote, particularly when it had nothing to do with what Hillary said? 
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Necrosis on October 27, 2014, 10:52:57 AM
The board's biggest Obama/liberal apologist to the rescue. 

I don't see that quote from Romney.  According to the transcript, here is what he said:

"That’s why I put out a five-point plan that gets America 12 million new jobs in four years and rising take-home pay. It’s going to help Jeremy get a job when he comes a out of school. It’s going to help people across the country that are unemployed right now."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/16/us/politics/transcript-of-the-second-presidential-debate-in-hempstead-ny.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

I love how specific he is and on detailed that 5 point plan was, so well thought out. lol
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 27, 2014, 12:03:23 PM
I love how specific he is and on detailed that 5 point plan was, so well thought out. lol

Don't fall on 240's lame trap of taking the focus off of killary. She's a fucking bafoon and anyone who falls for what she said is one as well.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: James28 on October 27, 2014, 12:05:39 PM
She's not wrong and I'm sure her comments have been taken out of context by the usual Uneducated Unwashed.

I'm an employer. 5 full time staff and numerous contract staff. The reason I employ 5 people instead of simply contracting the work out (at far less cost and hassle to myself) is because the NZ National Party has created a favourable business environment making it cost effective to employ. We've just had a general election and if the idiotic liberal Labour party got voted in, tax would've been raised by several percentage point (they despise rich people or hardworking successful people)  and I most likely would've let all my staff go as it's a government contract with fixed pricing and very little margin for negotiation. It wouldn't have made it worth it to even run the business with such little profit. Everyone would've been contracting with no job security,  no holiday/sick pay, no benefits and a one day notice period.

Lord I despise liberal scumbags that thieve from the successful to pull up the worthless and unproductive
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 27, 2014, 12:17:04 PM
She's not wrong and I'm sure her comments have been taken out of context by the usual Uneducated Unwashed.

I'm an employer. 5 full time staff and numerous contract staff. The reason I employ 5 people instead of simply contracting the work out (at far less cost and hassle to myself) is because the NZ National Party has created a favourable business environment making it cost effective to employ. We've just had a general election and if the idiotic liberal Labour party got voted in, tax would've been raised by several percentage point (they despise rich people or hardworking successful people)  and I most likely would've let all my staff go as it's a government contract with fixed pricing and very little margin for negotiation. It wouldn't have made it worth it to even run the business with such little profit. Everyone would've been contracting with no job security,  no holiday/sick pay, no benefits and a one day notice period.

Lord I despise liberal scumbags that thieve from the successful to pull up the worthless and unproductive

 This is America where liberals have zero business sense what so ever. They have no desire to create a business environment suitable for the private sector. Businesses are leaving liberal states to other business friendly states and leaving the country. We have the highest corporate tax in the world. Liberals are high on raising even more state, local, fed tax and raising min wage thinking it's going to help the economy. They come up band-aid solutions, nothing long term. Long term not short term solutions is whats needed.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 27, 2014, 12:27:08 PM
She's not wrong and I'm sure her comments have been taken out of context by the usual Uneducated Unwashed.

I'm an employer. 5 full time staff and numerous contract staff. The reason I employ 5 people instead of simply contracting the work out (at far less cost and hassle to myself) is because the NZ National Party has created a favourable business environment making it cost effective to employ. We've just had a general election and if the idiotic liberal Labour party got voted in, tax would've been raised by several percentage point (they despise rich people or hardworking successful people)  and I most likely would've let all my staff go as it's a government contract with fixed pricing and very little margin for negotiation. It wouldn't have made it worth it to even run the business with such little profit. Everyone would've been contracting with no job security,  no holiday/sick pay, no benefits and a one day notice period.

Lord I despise liberal scumbags that thieve from the successful to pull up the worthless and unproductive

 ::)
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Dos Equis on October 27, 2014, 12:48:21 PM
Don't fall on 240's lame trap of taking the focus off of killary. She's a fucking bafoon and anyone who falls for what she said is one as well.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: headhuntersix on October 27, 2014, 12:51:58 PM
He derailed the entire thread with that shit.....Hil said XYZ...debate that 240. I know your itching to vote for the first woman just like the first black..cause that shit matters.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: 240 is Back on October 27, 2014, 02:09:26 PM
Don't fall on 240's lame trap of taking the focus off of killary. She's a fucking bafoon and anyone who falls for what she said is one as well.

I hate hilary's fcking guts.   I hate bill clinton's fcking guts. 

I'm sure you know that, right?  Even my biggest opponents on this board have to remember how much I've shit on her over the years.  They disgust me.  However, I think her infrastructure and the current political climate makes her the favorite in 2016.

Of course, some people can't tell difference between predicting and endorsing, lol, so...
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 27, 2014, 04:01:42 PM
I hate hilary's fcking guts.   I hate bill clinton's fcking guts. 

I'm sure you know that, right?  Even my biggest opponents on this board have to remember how much I've shit on her over the years.  They disgust me.  However, I think her infrastructure and the current political climate makes her the favorite in 2016.

Of course, some people can't tell difference between predicting and endorsing, lol, so...

Is that why you made it about Romney?
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: RRKore on October 27, 2014, 04:47:15 PM
He derailed the entire thread with that shit.....Hil said XYZ...debate that 240. I know your itching to vote for the first woman just like the first black..cause that shit matters.

Wait a sec, though.  What's XYZ?  I mean, what did Hillary say?  I don't see a quote from her recent speech that says that she said "The government creates jobs".  The zerohedge article doesn't say that.

From what I've read, she said "Businesses don't create jobs, customers do."

And, if that's what she said then I can still see some people having an argument with it but you can see her point, can't you?;  If customers don't have much income, they won't be able to keep most businesses "in business."  And if businesses go out of business since there aren't folks with money to patronize them, then whatever jobs were available as part of that business will be gone, too.

Lots of reasons to not like Hillary but her saying this ain't one of 'em, imo.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Dos Equis on October 27, 2014, 04:55:52 PM
Wait a sec, though.  What's XYZ?  I mean, what did Hillary say?  I don't see a quote from her recent speech that says that she said "The government creates jobs".  The zerohedge article doesn't say that.

From what I've read, she said "Businesses don't create jobs, customers do."

And, if that's what she said then I can still see some people having an argument with it but you can see her point, can't you?;  If customers don't have much income, they won't be able to keep most businesses "in business."  And if businesses go out of business since there aren't folks with money to patronize them, then whatever jobs were available as part of that business will be gone, too.

Lots of reasons to not like Hillary but her saying this ain't one of 'em, imo.

What are you reading?  Daily Kos?  Democratic Underground? 

Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: _bruce_ on October 27, 2014, 05:07:07 PM
That's a bold statement - she must be wearing an economic wig.

2016 and L'America "is run" by a woman with the skin complexion of the grand canyon and the business sense of Darth Vader.
2017 Alex Jones prepares to take over the White House but suffers a heart attack when conquering the vastness of the lawn.
2018 a blend of Mexican and Kishwahili gets adopted as the lingua franca of equality and edible dildos are the new steak.
2019 Putin steps in and gracefully nukes America... many Americans emit a sigh of relief as their hexa-sexual bodies melt into ionized goo.

The End

Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: RRKore on October 27, 2014, 05:38:58 PM
What are you reading?  Daily Kos?  Democratic Underground? 



Haha, well, I'm not reading NewsMax, that's for sure, lol.

You're right that she didn't say the "customers do (create jobs)" part in the youtube clip you've posted.  (Maybe she did somewhere else where she's given a variation of this speech? -- I'll find out and get back to you, I promise.)

But she doesn't say that the government does, either.  Did you post the wrong clip?
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Dos Equis on October 27, 2014, 05:42:10 PM
Haha, well, I'm not reading NewsMax, that's for sure, lol.

You're right that she didn't say the "customers do (create jobs)" part in the youtube clip you've posted.  (Maybe she did somewhere else where she's given a variation of this speech? -- I'll find out and get back to you, I promise.)

But she doesn't say that the government does, either.  Did you post the wrong clip?

You should be reading Newsmax.  Maybe you would stop making such a fool of yourself. 

You're going to double down, again?  Not surprised.  lol 
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: RRKore on October 27, 2014, 05:55:27 PM
You should be reading Newsmax.  Maybe you would stop making such a fool of yourself. 

You're going to double down, again?  Not surprised.  lol 

Isn't NewsMax just a conservative news aggregator?  (Been a while since I've looked at that site.)

But wait, I think you may have overlooked my question.  Did you post the wrong clip?  Did she or did she not say that government creates jobs?  (She may have said that sometime somewhere, but not in the clip you posted.)

If I find out that she did say the thing about how "businesses don't create jobs, customers do" will you read the article/watch the clip if I post it?
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Dos Equis on October 27, 2014, 06:42:12 PM
Isn't NewsMax just a conservative news aggregator?  (Been a while since I've looked at that site.)

But wait, I think you may have overlooked my question.  Did you post the wrong clip?  Did she or did she not say that government creates jobs?  (She may have said that sometime somewhere, but not in the clip you posted.)

If I find out that she did say the thing about how "businesses don't create jobs, customers do" will you read the article/watch the clip if I post it?

Newsmax is a conservative site.  I look at it all the time, just like I look at huffingtonpost (a liberal site) all the time. 

I didn't overlook your question.  Did you listen to the clip?  If you did you wouldn't be asking me, unless you just don't understand it.  Or you could just be a hack? 
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 27, 2014, 07:19:27 PM
Blacks libs gays etc want free shit wo earning it.   Big fng revelation to who?
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: RRKore on October 27, 2014, 07:30:04 PM
Newsmax is a conservative site.  I look at it all the time, just like I look at huffingtonpost (a liberal site) all the time. 

I didn't overlook your question.  Did you listen to the clip?  If you did you wouldn't be asking me, unless you just don't understand it.  Or you could just be a hack? 

Yes, I watched your clip.  In it, I did not see Hillary say the government creates jobs. 

Can you tell me at what point she said that?  Maybe you're paraphrasing what she said or you posted the wrong clip?

Seriously, in your clip she says that businesses don't create jobs but doesn't say that the gov't does either.

BTW, the thing I mentioned about her saying that customers (consumers, actually) and not businesses are the ones that create jobs was something she only said today (and not 3 days ago when she made the speech shown in your clip). 

I can't find it on youtube (but the video is in some other format on CNN) but most likely will tomorrow so I'll post it then.

FWIW, she says she was "short-handing the point" when she made the comments in your clip.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 27, 2014, 07:59:19 PM
Hillary Clinton Clarifies: Actually, Businesses Do Create Jobs
mediaite ^ | 10/27/14 | Josh Feldman
Posted on 10/27/2014 5:16:54 PM PDT by Nachum

Hillary Clinton recently said at a campaign rally, “Don’t let anybody tell you that it’s corporations and businesses that create jobs.” Today Clinton spoke at another rally today, this one for Congressman Sean Patrick Maloney, and she used the opportunity to clarify what she meant.

According to BuzzFeed, Clinton again argued that “trickle-down economics has failed” and went on to say, “I short-handed this point the other day, so let me be absolutely clear about what I’ve been saying for a couple of decades.”

And this is how Clinton explained that earlier remark:

“Our economy grows when businesses and entrepreneurs create good-paying jobs here in America and workers and families are empowered to build from the bottom up and the middle out — not when we hand out tax breaks for corporations that outsource jobs or stash their profits overseas.”

You can watch the video of Clinton’s original comment here:

(Excerpt) Read more at mediaite.com ...
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Dos Equis on October 27, 2014, 08:13:35 PM
Yes, I watched your clip.  In it, I did not see Hillary say the government creates jobs. 

Can you tell me at what point she said that?  Maybe you're paraphrasing what she said or you posted the wrong clip?

Seriously, in your clip she says that businesses don't create jobs but doesn't say that the gov't does either.

BTW, the thing I mentioned about her saying that customers (consumers, actually) and not businesses are the ones that create jobs was something she only said today (and not 3 days ago when she made the speech shown in your clip). 

I can't find it on youtube (but the video is in some other format on CNN) but most likely will tomorrow so I'll post it then.

FWIW, she says she was "short-handing the point" when she made the comments in your clip.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.  If she said business doesn't create jobs then what the heck else is left?  Who was she talking about?  The Tooth Fairy??
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Dos Equis on October 28, 2014, 11:29:55 AM
And there she is, trying to walk back her "you didn't build that" moment.  lol

Hillary: I was talking about Trickle Down Economics!
by KEITH KOFFLER on OCTOBER 28, 2014

Hillary Clinton Monday tried to remove herself from the grip of her latest, and among her worst, gaffes – her trailblazing economic theory that businesses don’t create jobs.

Clinton said the comment, which she made last week, was just an attempt to say that what liberals like to call “trickle down economics” doesn’t work.

According to Buzzfeed’s Ruby Cramer, Clinton explained:

“The Republican alternative is a discredited economic theory that will hurt middle class families,” Clinton said. “So-called trickle-down economics has failed.”

“I short-handed this point the other day, so let me be absolutely clear about what I’ve been saying for a couple of decades.”

“Our economy grows when businesses and entrepreneurs create good-paying jobs here in America and workers and families are empowered to build from the bottom up and the middle out — not when we hand out tax breaks for corporations that outsource jobs or stash their profits overseas.”

Cramer protectively asserted, “The clarification made clear that the remark was a botched line.”

Well, as Dr. Freud might say, there are no accidents. Only accidental revelations.

Sure, Hillary cannot possibly believe that corporations don’t create jobs. I mean, NBC created one for her daughter, right? But her sentiments toward the job creators are clear. And that was the point of her gaffe.

Here it is again, smug tone and all.



Actually, trickle down economics, also known as supply side economics, does work. In fact, her husband rode the wave of growth sparked by Ronald Reagan’s tax cuts until he finally produced a recession as he was leaving office in 2000.

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2014/10/28/hillary-talking-trickle-economics/
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 28, 2014, 11:34:47 AM
Hillary is a FNG moron - of course similarly absent minded dolts like andreisafag Strawtwink Licker Option FAIL et al love her
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 29, 2014, 04:39:11 AM
Posted on October 29, 2014 at 7:35:30 AM EDT by Sir Napsalot

Another day, another Hillary Clinton clean-up attempt.

After emphatically declaring last week that businesses and corporations do not create jobs, Clinton, blaming her poor use of shorthand, claimed on Monday that she was actually referring to her stance against "tax breaks for corporations that outsource jobs or stash profits overseas."

"I shorthanded this point the other day, so let me be absolutely clear about what I’ve been saying for a couple of decades: Our economy grows when businesses and entrepreneurs create good-paying jobs here in an America where workers and families are empowered to build from the bottom up and the middle out—not when we hand out tax breaks for corporations that outsource jobs or stash their profits overseas," Clinton backpedaled on Monday .....

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 29, 2014, 06:06:46 AM
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Hillary Clinton Flunks Economics
Townhall.com ^  | October 29, 2014 | Brent Bozell

Posted on ‎10‎/‎29‎/‎2014‎ ‎8‎:‎09‎:‎30‎ ‎AM by Kaslin

Liberals have this terrible and annoying habit of congratulating themselves for their intellectual heft merely because they hold liberal views. Once this arrogant notion reigns, it's tough for liberals to acknowledge when one of their own says something so remarkably untrue and stupid that it makes you wonder just how ignorant is the liberal really.

At an event for Massachusetts gubernatorial candidate Martha Coakley in Boston on Oct. 24, Hillary Clinton told the assembled Democratic faithful: "Don't let anybody tell you that, you know, it's corporations and businesses that create jobs."

This makes about as much sense as "Don't let anyone say that it's governments that tax people." In attempt to dig out of this rhetorical face-plant, Clinton contended at an event in New York on Oct. 27 that she had "shorthanded this point" in a way that confused the public about what she actually meant. But now listen to her "clarification:"

"Our economy grows when businesses and entrepreneurs create good-paying jobs here in an America where workers and families are empowered to build from the bottom up and the middle out -- not when we hand out tax breaks for corporations that outsource jobs or stash their profits overseas."

That sounds like a hundred Democratic Party stump speeches, creating the evil Snidely Whiplash corporate villain. It also affirms the obvious fact that business creates employment -- at least in a free market economy. That's not a "clarification" of her incredibly stupid gaffe. It's not fixing a "shorthanding." It's a badly disguised retraction.

To Republicans, this sounded like a more illiterate version of Barack Obama's lame 2012 campaign dismissal of that free market economy when he told business "You didn't build that." Entrepreneurs should always credit their success to government-funded highways and teachers, and never to their own skills in the marketplace. It attaches Clinton to Obama's radical waist, and that's not good when he's sporting the lowest-ever approval ratings for an incumbent president.

Team Clinton knows, however, that it can get away with all of this, at least within the "objective" press. There was no coverage of this ridiculous gaffe on ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR or PBS. CNN twice obsessed over whether Hillary and Sen. Elizabeth Warren should have hugged or posed together at the Coakley event, ignoring the idiotic remarks. The same diversion bubbled up Saturday with weekend talk-show host Steve Kornacki on MSNBC.

The New York Times reproduced the stupid remark in a Sunday story, albeit on page A-13, in paragraph 10, when the reader has lost interest. But that was better than the competition. There was no coverage in The Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, or USA Today. Even the local Boston Globe skipped over the remark. Reporter Akilah Johnson just offered campaign boilerplate from Hillary, such as: "We cannot possibly rest between now and Nov. 4. ... You don't want to wake up the day after this election and say, 'I wish I could have done more.' "

Ken Thomas and Philip Marcelo filed a story for the Associated Press, and skipped the stupidity entirely. This was their chosen Hillary quote to reproduce, touting Coakley in a close race: "From my perspective, it shouldn't even really be a race. It should not even be close, but we're living during an election season where it's close everywhere ... and that's why Martha needs you."

The people who complain that our news media consumption is too "polarized" -- and their assumption that conservatives depend too much on alternative media -- fail to acknowledge how our traditional "news" media are consistently burying Democrat gaffes they don't want anyone to hear about. When Hillary says something stupid, they want it to be just like that metaphorical tree that falls silently in the forest. Peace and quiet is comforting.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: James28 on October 29, 2014, 11:02:54 AM
::)

The can't-be-bothered-to-read-past-the-first-line wonder strikes again!

Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Soul Crusher on October 29, 2014, 11:11:13 AM
The can't-be-bothered-to-read-past-the-first-line wonder strikes again!



Hillary had to take back her idiotc statements b/c she knows how foolish it was
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: James28 on October 29, 2014, 03:46:41 PM
Hillary had to take back her idiotc statements b/c she knows how foolish it was

Read my post and it'll tell you how  government can destroy or save jobs, , directly so.

Make she's back paddling because morons started screaming before thinking of context.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: muscleman-2013 on October 29, 2014, 04:35:03 PM


“Don’t let anybody tell you it’s corporations and businesses create jobs,” Clinton said.

Filthy whore.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: RRKore on October 29, 2014, 06:55:38 PM
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.  If she said business doesn't create jobs then what the heck else is left?  Who was she talking about?  The Tooth Fairy??



Consumers, ya knuckle-head. 

She's making the point that without demand, jobs at suppliers (businesses) can't exist.

I think she's biting Elizabeth Warren's rhyme here -- Warren talks about this all the time.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Dos Equis on October 29, 2014, 08:04:00 PM


Consumers, ya knuckle-head. 

She's making the point that without demand, jobs at suppliers (businesses) can't exist.

I think she's biting Elizabeth Warren's rhyme here -- Warren talks about this all the time.

Wait.  She meant to say consumers create jobs?  That's really funny.   :)

Then why did she say this a day later?

“Our economy grows when businesses and entrepreneurs create good-paying jobs here in America and workers and families are empowered to build from the bottom up and the middle out — not when we hand out tax breaks for corporations that outsource jobs or stash their profits overseas.”

So which is it?
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: RRKore on October 29, 2014, 08:39:54 PM
Wait.  She meant to say consumers create jobs?  That's really funny.   :)

Then why did she say this a day later?

“Our economy grows when businesses and entrepreneurs create good-paying jobs here in America and workers and families are empowered to build from the bottom up and the middle out — not when we hand out tax breaks for corporations that outsource jobs or stash their profits overseas.”

So which is it?

LOL.  What do you think she means "by the bottom up"?  (Hint:  She's not talking about the Tooth Fairy.)
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Dos Equis on October 29, 2014, 08:49:03 PM
LOL.  What do you think she means "by the bottom up"?  (Hint:  She's not talking about the Tooth Fairy.)

Now how is it that consumers create jobs?  Even she doesn't say that.  Good grief.
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: RRKore on October 29, 2014, 08:53:28 PM
Now how is it that consumers create jobs?  Even she doesn't say that.  Good grief.

Seriously?  Who do you think most businesses are selling to? 

Do you seriously not understand this point?  You drinking tonight or what?
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Dos Equis on October 31, 2014, 08:44:45 AM
Seriously?  Who do you think most businesses are selling to? 

Do you seriously not understand this point?  You drinking tonight or what?

I don't even know what to say.  You don't understand that businesses, not consumers, create jobs?  Consumers create demand.  Businesses create jobs.  Even Hillary didn't make the incredibly uniformed, uneducated statement that you are making.  Geeze Louise. 
Title: Re: Hillary 2016 - Govt creates jobs not private sector
Post by: Dos Equis on October 31, 2014, 08:45:26 AM
Bozell & Graham Column: Hillary Clinton Flunks Economics
By Brent Bozell and Tim Graham
October 28, 2014

Liberals have this terrible and annoying habit of congratulating themselves for their intellectual heft merely because they hold liberal views. Once this arrogant notion reigns, it’s tough for liberals to acknowledge when one of their own says something so remarkably unfactual and stupid that it makes you wonder just how ignorant the liberal really is.

At an event for Massachusetts gubernatorial candidate Martha Coakley in Boston on October 24, Hillary Clinton told the assembled Democratic faithful: “Don’t let anybody tell you that, you know, it’s corporations and businesses that create jobs.”

This makes about as much sense as “Don’t let anyone say that it’s governments that tax people.” In attempt to dig out of this rhetorical face-plant, Mrs. Clinton contended at an event in New York on October 27 that she had “shorthanded this point” in a way that confused the public about what she actually meant. But now listen to her “clarification:” 

“Our economy grows when businesses and entrepreneurs create good-paying jobs here in an America where workers and families are empowered to build from the bottom up and the middle out — not when we hand out tax breaks for corporations that outsource jobs or stash their profits overseas.”

That sounds like a hundred Democratic Party stump speeches, creating the evil Snidely Whiplash corporate villain. It also affirms the obvious fact that business creates employment. At least in a free market economy.That’s not a “clarification” of her incredibly stupid gaffe. It’s not fixing a “shorthanding.” It’s a badly disguised retraction.

To Republicans, this sounded like a more illiterate version of Barack Obama’s lame 2012 campaign dismissal of that free market economy when he told business “You didn’t build that.” Entrepreneurs should always credit their success to government-funded highways and teachers, and never to their own skills in the marketplace. It attaches Clinton to Obama's radical waist, and that's not good when he's sporting the lowest-ever approval ratings for an incumbent president.

Team Clinton knows, however, that it can get away with all of this, at least within the “objective” press. There was no coverage of this ridiculous gaffe on ABC, CBS, NBC, NPR, or PBS. CNN twice obsessed over whether Hillary and Sen. Elizabeth Warren should have hugged or posed together at the Coakley event, ignoring the idiotic remarks. The same diversion bubbled up Saturday with weekend talk-show host Steve Kornacki on MSNBC.

The New York Times reproduced the stupid remark in a Sunday story, albeit on page A-13, in paragraph 10, when the reader has lost interest. But that was better than the competition. There was no coverage in The Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, or USA Today.

Even the local Boston Globe skipped over the remark. Reporter Akilah Johnson just offered campaign boilerplate from Hillary, such as: “We cannot possibly rest between now and November 4...You don’t want to wake up the day after this election and say, ‘I wish I could have done more.’ ”

Ken Thomas and Philip Marcelo filed a story for the Associated Press, and skipped the stupidity entirely. This was their chosen Hillary quote to reproduce, touting Coakley in a close race: "From my perspective, it shouldn't even really be a race. It should not even be close, but we're living during an election season where it's close everywhere...and that's why Martha needs you."

The people who complain that our news media consumption is too “polarized” -- and their assumption that conservatives depend too much on alternative media – fail to acknowledge how our traditional "news" media are consistently burying Democrat gaffes they don’t want anyone to hear about. When Hillary says something stupid, they want it to be just like that metaphorical tree that falls silently in the forest. Peace and quiet is comforting.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2014/10/28/bozell-graham-column-hillary-clinton-flunks-economics#sthash.ojxxH3Or.dpuf