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Title: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: falco on November 11, 2014, 02:56:57 AM
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Post by: pedro01 on November 11, 2014, 03:13:42 AM
I just had a prospective customer email me & say....

"I've been considering a purchase of xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, but am a bit set-back because of the lack of recent activity on the website."

I sent him this video.

Honestly, if you have fuck all to say - sometimes it's best to not say it.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: kreator on November 11, 2014, 04:51:52 AM
did he mention anything about preengaging your transverse abdominis muscle?
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Post by: musclecenter on November 11, 2014, 05:44:06 AM
agree with him, using old school way
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Post by: That_Dude on November 11, 2014, 08:23:13 AM
Some of his videos are helpful. This is one of them. Pretty much everyone I see in the gym does these wrong. At least rich gives out some decent advices once in a while not always 100% BS......maybe 95% with him and 5 % truth   :D
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: pissant on November 11, 2014, 08:40:19 AM
ive honestly never seen 1 person at the gym do these right...They simply dont bend over enough , load the bar with weight and then proceed to butt fuck the bar. 99% of the time this is an ego lift.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: latiuss on November 11, 2014, 08:48:33 AM
Rich talks drugs so hes ok in my book. He right about how many fuckers do it wrong ego lifting shrug rows. Lat pulldown is another i see people fuck up, some all most doing ab curls and shit makes me cringe, ive started telling people if im close to them now though as the pts wont do it unless they are getting paid which i think is fuckd up, as i dont want to see fu kers snap they shit up it takes like 1minute to explain.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: pissant on November 11, 2014, 09:03:35 AM
Rich talks drugs so hes ok in my book. He right about how many fuckers do it wrong ego lifting shrug rows. Lat pulldown is another i see people fuck up, some all most doing ab curls and shit makes me cringe, ive started telling people if im close to them now though as the pts wont do it unless they are getting paid which i think is fuckd up, as i dont want to see fu kers snap they shit up it takes like 1minute to explain.

offering unsolicited advice is a douchey thing. Let these kids fucking rott. If they cant use google in 2014 they have no hope.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: latiuss on November 11, 2014, 09:10:18 AM
offering unsolicited advice is a douchey thing. Let these kids fucking rott. If they cant use google in 2014 they have no hope.

They are always chicks or old people mate, and i do say " dont want to be a cu.nt but your doing it wrong"
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: latiuss on November 11, 2014, 09:18:30 AM
Another one is pullups,how many fuckers cant do that. Only time ive ever lost my rag with someone was some twat who maxed out the ab machine and was moving the whole machine off the floor curling it with his whole body, i said wtf r u doing? "Abs" he said lol i said you aint doing shit.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on November 11, 2014, 09:27:05 AM
Good fucking video
No bs advice from a dude that walks the walk and lives the lifestyle fully
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Coach is Back! on November 11, 2014, 09:34:43 AM


His "right way" was alright BUT, t spine wasn't kept neutral (rounded) too much neck extension causing c spine flexion. If you were to a chest supported row you could eliminate most of that. But, I like bent rows as well.

Que my stalker from the north to "threaten" me again. Hhahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahah aha!
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Randomum on November 11, 2014, 09:40:39 AM
Dude has some sick arms. Cool vid.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 11, 2014, 09:41:54 AM
why not do both styles, Yates style and Arnie style, I do, with good form.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Howard on November 11, 2014, 09:51:35 AM
ive honestly never seen 1 person at the gym do these right...They simply dont bend over enough , load the bar with weight and then proceed to butt fuck the bar. 99% of the time this is an ego lift.

Exactly.

Rich proves  making $$ within bodybuilding, has little to do with winning big contests.
He never nailed the contest ripped look, but Rich is BIG, charismatic and has a larger then life personality.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 11, 2014, 09:55:23 AM
tell my back yates style rows are an ego lift...
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Post by: Mr Anabolic on November 11, 2014, 10:03:09 AM
tell my back yates style rows are an ego lift...

Might be even better if you did them the correct way.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 11, 2014, 10:05:06 AM
lol tell that to Dorian Yates back then
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Post by: Hulkotron on November 11, 2014, 10:05:32 AM
Working out "the right way" oh brother
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on November 11, 2014, 10:07:21 AM
lol tell that to Dorian Yates back then
i think Yates was prob doing the right form on Yates rows
It looks like u aren't from seeing your development
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 11, 2014, 10:08:45 AM
another jealous twig who wishes he had half my back development
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Mr Anabolic on November 11, 2014, 10:12:10 AM
lol tell that to Dorian Yates back then

Even when Dorian first started training, his back was better than his other body parts.  Back shape and width was his genetic gift.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Mr Anabolic on November 11, 2014, 10:13:29 AM
another jealous twig who wishes he had half my back development

You are most likely suffering from androgen brain.  You seem somewhat delusional.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 11, 2014, 10:15:07 AM
lol show me your back trained the correct way mr catabolic
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: musclecenter on November 11, 2014, 10:16:00 AM
i favour Lee Haney & Arnold back workout
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Army of One on November 11, 2014, 10:17:15 AM
lol show me your back trained the correct way mr catabolic

On stage you disappear, look like a middle level local show 3rd placer.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: latiuss on November 11, 2014, 10:17:30 AM
Ro's biting ears off spittin it in the victims face, injects another vial and starts swinging crushin skulls
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 11, 2014, 10:18:21 AM
You are most likely suffering from androgen brain.  You seem somewhat delusional.

lol show me your back then trained in the right way. Also Rich Penis back looks like shit.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: SF1900 on November 11, 2014, 10:20:30 AM
On stage you disappear, look like a middle level local show 3rd placer.

You gotta love when a juiced up guy calls a natural guy a twig, like its some big accomplishment being bigger than a natural if youre juicing.

It would only be fair if both were juicing, then at least the playing field would be level.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 11, 2014, 10:22:31 AM
You gotta love when a juiced up guy calls a natural guy a twig, like its some big accomplishment being bigger than a natural if youre juicing.

It would only be fair if both were juicing, then at least the playing field would be level.

this is true but he was the one with the big mouth  ;)
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 11, 2014, 10:23:17 AM
On stage you disappear, look like a middle level local show 3rd placer.

 :-*
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Howard on November 11, 2014, 10:23:40 AM
tell my back yates style rows are an ego lift...

Don't turn your back on us when speaking.  ;D
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: AmonRa on November 11, 2014, 10:41:40 AM
(http://media.pennlive.com/opinion/photo/oil-well-art-d0e8499fbec07478.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on November 11, 2014, 10:52:31 AM
another jealous twig who wishes he had half my back development
how do u plan on improving your calves??
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: heenok on November 11, 2014, 11:07:10 AM
doesnt matter how you do it, only end result count
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: falco on November 11, 2014, 12:44:31 PM
tell my back yates style rows are an ego lift...

I thought Yates style was due to both his back and shoulder injuries. He could not perform it correctly but since he has mr. O and back was his strong point, the style got adopted by bodybuilding community.
I could be wrong thow...
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: anabolichalo on November 11, 2014, 12:47:52 PM
richard and all you yes-men are fucking retarded


what he is doing in the video is bending over further than "yates" row, just so he can launch it and build momentum to end up still doing a yates row just with more momentum so even "worse" by his theory

stupid oil bag fuck yu
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: GetItOnNY on November 11, 2014, 12:56:47 PM
I have to agree with Big Ro.Richs back does look like shit.I seen him up close at the Mr O expo, and his arms and even his chest doesnt look real.I swear to you.When he moves his arsm they dont move.
When he bends his arms they dont get any bigger.
People asked him to felx his biceps, he wouldnt?
Usually when you have big arms when you bend your arms they get bigger.
Richs arms are the same size bent as they are straight.?
Does he have impants or synthol?
They dont look real, neither does his shoulders
If you look at his competition pics, he doesnt have a peak.He has log arms
They were deently big, but shaped like a log.
I like that he speaks his mind.I wouldnt call him a bodybuilder though.
Yes he has a pro card.But his body isnt complete.
He just has these big corney arms that dont look real, at all
His shoulders same thing, bug butt look animated.
Chest, again doesnt look like its muscle.
Rich is a big guy, seems cool.Speaks his mind.
Would I take advice from him.Hell no.
Like I said before, he has a few big but enhanced body parts.
Which look to be snythol, or implants.
He is a big guy with big arms, big shoulders,a decent chest, .
Back is no real big, legs,they are always covered up?
He is definatly a conversation pieace, lol
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: anabolichalo on November 11, 2014, 01:01:54 PM
01:16

about rich "realness"

lol

Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: _bruce_ on November 11, 2014, 01:06:12 PM
Lip curls payed off.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on November 11, 2014, 01:19:39 PM
This might be the one exercise for which you're better off doing the wrong way, as the right way, bending way over, puts your lower back in a compromised position.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: TheShape. on November 11, 2014, 01:50:12 PM
This is the way I do mine, except with my head up:
(http://anthonybevilacqua.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/bent-over-rows-with-franco-and-arnold.jpg)
Just like this:
(http://www.how2muscleguide.com/images/Bentover-barbell-rows.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Lord Chronos on November 11, 2014, 02:20:36 PM


All day you may.........
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Mike on November 11, 2014, 02:25:29 PM
Maybe some people row the "wrong" way want to work the upper back when rowing, and use other exercises for the mid and lower back.

Im with you on this

Most people i see doing "yates rows" i believe are attempting to do bent over bb rows with too much weight.
Then their back gets tight, have to straighten up a bit and bam!  You're practically shrugging the bar.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: hipolito mejia on November 11, 2014, 02:37:10 PM



Does it matter how you do it if you inject oil and tons of gas ?
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Post by: KSA on November 11, 2014, 03:04:05 PM
 ;)
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Post by: Grape Ape on November 11, 2014, 03:08:57 PM
I do them flat back.  Lower bar all the way to the floor, pause, then squeeze up.
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Post by: wikkedonez on November 11, 2014, 05:29:48 PM
Damn look at that sign with Columbo.....dues $12 a YEAR!!
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: illuminati on November 11, 2014, 05:35:12 PM
lol tell that to Dorian Yates back then












Ha ha,
X2.
Well Said.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: maxkane69 on November 11, 2014, 06:06:53 PM
One arm dumbbell rows and hammer strength machine rows are superior rowing exercises than any form of barbell bent over rows !!! ;)
Plus barbell bent over rows is a very dangerous exercise for the lower back just like squat,deadlift and t-bar rows !!!
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: WalterWhite on November 11, 2014, 07:56:09 PM
I have to agree with Big Ro.Richs back does look like shit.I seen him up close at the Mr O expo, and his arms and even his chest doesnt look real.I swear to you.When he moves his arsm they dont move.
When he bends his arms they dont get any bigger.
People asked him to felx his biceps, he wouldnt?
Usually when you have big arms when you bend your arms they get bigger.
Richs arms are the same size bent as they are straight.?
Does he have impants or synthol?
They dont look real, neither does his shoulders
If you look at his competition pics, he doesnt have a peak.He has log arms
They were deently big, but shaped like a log.
I like that he speaks his mind.I wouldnt call him a bodybuilder though.
Yes he has a pro card.But his body isnt complete.
He just has these big corney arms that dont look real, at all
His shoulders same thing, bug butt look animated.
Chest, again doesnt look like its muscle.
Rich is a big guy, seems cool.Speaks his mind.
Would I take advice from him.Hell no.
Like I said before, he has a few big but enhanced body parts.
Which look to be snythol, or implants.
He is a big guy with big arms, big shoulders,a decent chest, .
Back is no real big, legs,they are always covered up?
He is definatly a conversation pieace, lol

No he doesn't have a pro card and he is full of PMMA not synthol.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: thebrink on November 11, 2014, 08:31:45 PM
Yates' style rows will focus more on upper back and rhomboid thickness lower lat insertion and mass come from other exercises like dumbbell.

Next time you try your rows keep upper body at about 45 degrees/12 in 12 slope to the floor and pyramid up to a weight you can handle for 8 with some slightly assisted momentum for 3 working sets. Don't bother going below 6-8 reps. Moderate to heavy weight.
Srip the bar down to say 135 and bend further so your back is at around 20 degrees to the floor and rep out as many as you can beyond any pain threshold you have ever experienced , for 3 sets.

This combined with heavy deads twice per month for couple years will make the back look like it can rip the floorboards off.

Your back can never be too big

It is not rocket science.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: WalterWhite on November 11, 2014, 08:47:19 PM
01:16

about rich "realness"

lol



Awesome find Halo!  Mr PMMA is showing how stupid people are.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 12, 2014, 12:38:44 AM
Yates' style rows will focus more on upper back and rhomboid thickness lower lat insertion and mass come from other exercises like dumbbell.

Next time you try your rows keep upper body at about 45 degrees/12 in 12 slope to the floor and pyramid up to a weight you can handle for 8 with some slightly assisted momentum for 3 working sets. Don't bother going below 6-8 reps. Moderate to heavy weight.
Srip the bar down to say 135 and bend further so your back is at around 20 degrees to the floor and rep out as many as you can beyond any pain threshold you have ever experienced , for 3 sets.

This combined with heavy deads twice per month for couple years will make the back look like it can rip the floorboards off.

Your back can never be too big

It is not rocket science.

bollocks, they hit the lower lat powerfully if you do it right.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: heenok on November 12, 2014, 12:52:59 AM
well

whats the actual point of doing barbell rows over dumbell, seatead cable and machine rows ?
i mean to me the dumbell is vastly superior ROM wise

barbell seems to add nothing more than lower back injury risks to me
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: local hero on November 12, 2014, 01:41:52 AM
I don't like db rows, and I think they are the biggest ego exersize in the gym....

Yates has always rowed at 70 degrees, curl grip and pronated.. You can't use and challenging weight if your bent over parallel to the floor as your lower back becomes the weak link.

If you can 'feel' rows the Yates way youl feel nothing but pitty for those that can't, as youl know they will more than likely have a poor back genetically

That being said, I do like his videos
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Disgusted on November 12, 2014, 02:02:16 AM
Arnie does them right. Yates is more of an upper back trap exercise.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on November 12, 2014, 02:11:13 AM
01:16

about rich "realness"

lol



Lmao!

Nice!
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 12, 2014, 07:54:45 AM
how do u plan on improving your calves??
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 12, 2014, 07:57:29 AM
Arnie does them right. Yates is more of an upper back trap exercise.

its really not. My whole back feels it, especially lower lats. I do 90 degree bent rows pulling bar to lower chest to focus more on upper back.
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Post by: ritch on November 12, 2014, 08:02:54 AM
why all the comparing dumbell to barbell rows? they're not the same as the hand is in neutral position with dumbells. YOu can't pronate or supinate heavy weights with dumbells, so the barbell is needed for different hand postitions. As far as how much do you bend? There is no one size fits all here, there never is, so vids like that, bofff, useless unless totally clueless.

Lot's of guys with huge ass backs doing it "wrong" according to that fuckhead Piana who made the video, can't stand how he talks, sounds super condescending, he can eat shit, as usual.
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Post by: Hulkotron on November 12, 2014, 08:08:25 AM
I do these with dumbbells.

DBs in my gym go up to 450 lbs so there is plenty of weight for me.
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Post by: dr.chimps on November 12, 2014, 08:10:32 AM

Water your plants, big guy.   ;D
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Post by: pedro01 on November 12, 2014, 08:34:50 AM
its really not. My whole back feels it, especially lower lats. I do 90 degree bent rows pulling bar to lower chest to focus more on upper back.

Funny thing people arguing about the best way to do stuff.

Cause we aren't all the same.

If BigRo feels it at 90 degrees and someone else feels it at 70 - does it mean one of them has to be wrong?

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Post by: Henda on November 12, 2014, 08:58:35 AM
Everyone is different, I like somewhere in between the two,experiment and find the angle that you feel the greatest contraction in the lats and go from there
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Post by: NaturalWonder83 on November 12, 2014, 09:08:34 AM

that does not answer my question
After seeing this close up pic I would still like to know
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Post by: NordicNerd on November 12, 2014, 09:37:41 AM
agree with him, using old school way

Disagree. I do these much more upright and I feel the injury risk is much lower as there is far less pressure on the lower spine . Further, it is my goal to stimulate the traps, upper back and rear delts with this exercise. To stimulate the lats, I do seated rows and chins. Hence, doing them more upright works very well for the upper back and other exercises are safer for lats.

NN
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 12, 2014, 10:52:06 AM
Funny thing people arguing about the best way to do stuff.

Cause we aren't all the same.

If BigRo feels it at 90 degrees and someone else feels it at 70 - does it mean one of them has to be wrong?



I meant to say I also do them old school style on a platform which for me targets more the middle/upper back
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 12, 2014, 10:54:58 AM
that does not answer my question
After seeing this close up pic I would still like to know

oh really.

would be good to see what you look like but then maybe that would be unfair as your a sack of shit natural wonder
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: _aj_ on November 12, 2014, 10:59:22 AM
I do these with dumbbells.

DBs in my gym go up to 450 lbs so there is plenty of weight for me.

Holy shit. What does a 450 lb DB look like?
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: jprc10 on November 12, 2014, 11:09:16 AM
Disagree. I do these much more upright and I feel the injury risk is much lower as there is far less pressure on the lower spine . Further, it is my goal to stimulate the traps, upper back and rear delts with this exercise. To stimulate the lats, I do seated rows and chins. Hence, doing them more upright works very well for the upper back and other exercises are safer for lats.

NN

Agreed.
For lats Pull ups >>> rows.
Rows for traps, rear delts and other smaller muscles of the upper back.
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Post by: NaturalWonder83 on November 12, 2014, 01:23:31 PM
oh really.

would be good to see what you look like but then maybe that would be unfair as your a sack of shit natural wonder
my calves are very small and I was asking your advice
I'm a fan not a hater
As a matter of fact I know u have a large fan base on the east coast
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: WalterWhite on November 12, 2014, 04:29:14 PM
Here is Rich posing in Sept.

Those arms.. ???

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Post by: TheShape. on November 12, 2014, 04:49:47 PM
Here is is posing in Sept.

Those arms.. ???


That intro to his videos make me cringe every time. His PMAA arms don't even flex like real muscle.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Grape Ape on November 12, 2014, 04:50:35 PM
Holy shit. What does a 450 lb DB look like?

Guessing a very large dumbbell.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: SF1900 on November 12, 2014, 04:52:20 PM
my calves are very small and I was asking your advice
I'm a fan not a hater
As a matter of fact I know u have a large fan base on the east coast

He does? Who?
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Hulkotron on November 12, 2014, 06:21:00 PM
Holy shit. What does a 450 lb DB look like?

No offense "Cocks Popcicle" but such equipment is only useful for the bigger guys.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 12, 2014, 07:02:39 PM
my calves are very small and I was asking your advice
I'm a fan not a hater
As a matter of fact I know u have a large fan base on the east coast

lol ok well you did ask what I was going to do to improve them, there 19 inches I think or more, but more size on them wont hurt. I like a mixture of lower heavy reps of 10 to higher 30 with stretch and slight pause on contraction, rest pause is good to extend a set as the muscle recovers quickly so you can keep going. I train them twice a week.

Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 12, 2014, 07:04:44 PM
He does? Who?

sheep, goats etc
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Post by: BigRo on November 12, 2014, 07:06:12 PM
Rich Pianos back looks so lame in that posing video, I wonder if all that filling in his arms stops his muscles from being able to contact properly.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: thebrink on November 12, 2014, 07:25:01 PM


Those are the most effective exercises for lower lats 'if done right' 

Precisely what you are lacking bak there  ;)
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 12, 2014, 07:28:49 PM
Those are the most effective exercises for lower lats 'if done right' 

Precisely what you are lacking bak there  ;)
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on November 12, 2014, 07:29:37 PM
lol ok well you did ask what I was going to do to improve them, there 19 inches I think or more, but more size on them wont hurt. I like a mixture of lower heavy reps of 10 to higher 30 with stretch and slight pause on contraction, rest pause is good to extend a set as the muscle recovers quickly so you can keep going. I train them twice a week.


thx
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: kreator on November 13, 2014, 01:21:13 AM
This is the way I do mine, except with my head up:
(http://anthonybevilacqua.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/bent-over-rows-with-franco-and-arnold.jpg)
Just like this:
(http://www.how2muscleguide.com/images/Bentover-barbell-rows.jpg)


great way to fuck urself up
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Post by: Mr Anabolic on November 13, 2014, 04:25:10 AM

great way to fuck urself up

Definitely, if you are a moronic ego trainer.   I've never had any problems doing them this way.  Any exercise can fuck you up if you train with sloppy form and/or go too heavy.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Ropo on November 13, 2014, 07:16:49 AM
agree with him, using old school way

But you have learn how to do it many years ago. Then came Yates, who muscles were torn in so many ways, that he couldn't do it with the "right" old school way, and all little bodybuilders and wannabes has adopt his way of rowing. Why? Because you can lift bigger weights with that style. It doesn't make your back wide, it makes your upper body thick and that's why we see so many bodybuilders and wannabes without lower lats at all.

If you stop to think about that, you see that Yates have six Mr. Olympia's, so let say his style of rowing have 6 points. On the other hand, all the bodybuilders before him from Larry Scott to Lee Haney has used old school way, so just count Mr. Olympia titles of that bunch? It is 27 titles/27 points. Which is better? Old school rows are far better, but how to teach this fact to the bodybuilders and wannabes? There is no way to do that, so we have to thank Mr. Dorian Yates, because he has ruin more backs and cause more injuries than all other bodybuilding legends put together  ;D
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: IronMeister on November 13, 2014, 07:39:04 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WHzUbUy7_fU/UWBigGmEisI/AAAAAAAAQZM/MUjxpr0UHzU/s1600/Rich+Piana+2.jpg)

(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/img_0159_std.jpg)
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Royalty on November 13, 2014, 07:44:08 AM
Dorian was the guy that made reverse grip rows popular. And he liked to bend over slightly as he rowed.
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Royalty on November 13, 2014, 07:47:55 AM
Rich never had a back like Dorian
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: SaintAnger on November 13, 2014, 07:56:27 AM
(http://gallery.rxmuscle.com/newgallery/img_0159_std.jpg)

LMAO!  Look at the way he dramatically postures his arm up in the air with a curled wrist!

This "pro bodybuilding" shit is hilarious!  I LOVE spreading negativity when it comes to these clowns.
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Royalty on November 13, 2014, 08:10:04 AM
LMAO!  Look at the way he dramatically postures his arm up in the air with a curled wrist!

This "pro bodybuilding" shit is hilarious!  I LOVE spreading negativity when it comes to these clowns.

You don't find his pose breath-taking or inspirational?
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Hulkotron on November 13, 2014, 08:14:08 AM
You don't find his pose breath-taking or inspirational?

It has inspired me to include more fiber in my diet.
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: falco on November 13, 2014, 08:47:04 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WHzUbUy7_fU/UWBigGmEisI/AAAAAAAAQZM/MUjxpr0UHzU/s1600/Rich+Piana+2.jpg)

Oilbags Arms of peace.
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Waller on November 13, 2014, 08:53:10 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WHzUbUy7_fU/UWBigGmEisI/AAAAAAAAQZM/MUjxpr0UHzU/s1600/Rich+Piana+2.jpg)


Look at all the injection sites bee stings in his lats.
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: IronMeister on November 13, 2014, 09:02:44 AM
 :o
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2014, 09:05:00 AM
Dorian was the guy that made reverse grip rows popular. And he liked to bend over slightly as he rowed.

slightly? but it worked for him. Agree with Rich the Bent over row is just above parallel. If you do it correctly and really squeeze your shoulders back..then stupid weights are not used.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Henda on November 13, 2014, 09:12:35 AM
Those are the most effective exercises for lower lats 'if done right' 

Precisely what you are lacking bak there  ;)

This is the bloke who is criticising big ro's lower lat development.
(http://www.brinkzone.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/will-brink-pic.png)
Ugliest man ever
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2014, 09:19:31 AM
Big Ro is very strong. His Barbell Rows are sensational. Yates rows or standard. Big Back.  Donīt agree with his Politics but is a Strong Guy.
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Royalty on November 13, 2014, 02:27:34 PM
:o


Lol-- "ripped glutes"
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: anabolichalo on November 13, 2014, 02:29:31 PM
this is probably wasted on the ignorant and nothing new to the smart ones

but anyway

Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: gracie bjj on November 13, 2014, 02:40:23 PM
This is the way I do mine, except with my head up:
(http://anthonybevilacqua.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/bent-over-rows-with-franco-and-arnold.jpg)
Just like this:
(http://www.how2muscleguide.com/images/Bentover-barbell-rows.jpg)

WHEN I FIRST STARTED WORKING OUT THATS HOW I WAS TAUGHT ALSO,I WAS A YOUNG KID DOING WHAT THE TOP BODYBUILDERS AT MY GYM WHERE DOING AND THATS THE WAY THEY ROWED. I REMEMBER IN 94 OR SO I SAW YATES ROW AND SAID LET ME TRY THIS STYLE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS, IT WORKED GREAT ALSO.THESE DAYS I JUST DO THE YATES WAY CAUSE OF THE LOWER BACK ISSUES IVE HAD, IF IT WASNT FOR MY LOWER BACK ID DO THE ARNOLD WAY ALSO STILL CAUSE IT WORKED GREAT ALSO
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: io856 on November 13, 2014, 04:15:44 PM
fake face
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: thebrink on November 13, 2014, 06:27:02 PM
LMAO!  Look at the way he dramatically postures his arm up in the air with a curled wrist!

This "pro bodybuilding" shit is hilarious!  I LOVE spreading negativity when it comes to these clowns.

He does it as though he looks like a greek god or something lol.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Ropo on November 13, 2014, 10:01:23 PM
WHEN I FIRST STARTED WORKING OUT THATS HOW I WAS TAUGHT ALSO,I WAS A YOUNG KID DOING WHAT THE TOP BODYBUILDERS AT MY GYM WHERE DOING AND THATS THE WAY THEY ROWED. I REMEMBER IN 94 OR SO I SAW YATES ROW AND SAID LET ME TRY THIS STYLE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS, IT WORKED GREAT ALSO.THESE DAYS I JUST DO THE YATES WAY CAUSE OF THE LOWER BACK ISSUES IVE HAD, IF IT WASNT FOR MY LOWER BACK ID DO THE ARNOLD WAY ALSO STILL CAUSE IT WORKED GREAT ALSO

You don't have to thank me for this information, but it is quite clear that your lower back issues comes from the Yates rows more likely than anything else. Why? Because it is ergonomically one of the crappiest exercises known to mankind  ;D
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Ropo on November 13, 2014, 10:08:01 PM
tell my back yates style rows are an ego lift...

Ok. Not  very impressive, but ok. Now show us the back you would have by doing old school rows? Oh fuck, you can't, so how the hell you could compare them? Oh fuck, you can't, so YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE DONE RIGHT. Still, there is more than 30 Mr. Olympia titles won with the back build by old school rows, and just few by Yates rows  ;D
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: musclecenter on November 13, 2014, 10:18:18 PM
WHEN I FIRST STARTED WORKING OUT THATS HOW I WAS TAUGHT ALSO,I WAS A YOUNG KID DOING WHAT THE TOP BODYBUILDERS AT MY GYM WHERE DOING AND THATS THE WAY THEY ROWED. I REMEMBER IN 94 OR SO I SAW YATES ROW AND SAID LET ME TRY THIS STYLE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS, IT WORKED GREAT ALSO.THESE DAYS I JUST DO THE YATES WAY CAUSE OF THE LOWER BACK ISSUES IVE HAD, IF IT WASNT FOR MY LOWER BACK ID DO THE ARNOLD WAY ALSO STILL CAUSE IT WORKED GREAT ALSO
hip against the equipment to prevent injure low back
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: kreator on November 14, 2014, 12:07:26 AM
hip against the equipment to prevent injure low back


jesus, u're back is bent like a fishing rod after hooking up a 500lbs tuna
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: AmonRa on November 14, 2014, 12:10:11 AM
FOR FUCK SAKE HOW HARD IS IT TO DO A FUCKING BARBELL ROW MORONS.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 14, 2014, 12:26:15 AM
Ok. Not  very impressive, but ok. Now show us the back you would have by doing old school rows? Oh fuck, you can't, so how the hell you could compare them? Oh fuck, you can't, so YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE DONE RIGHT. Still, there is more than 30 Mr. Olympia titles won with the back build by old school rows, and just few by Yates rows  ;D

 ::)

Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Henda on November 14, 2014, 02:57:57 AM
Ok. Not  very impressive, but ok. Now show us the back you would have by doing old school rows? Oh fuck, you can't, so how the hell you could compare them? Oh fuck, you can't, so YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE DONE RIGHT. Still, there is more than 30 Mr. Olympia titles won with the back build by old school rows, and just few by Yates rows  ;D

Stupidest post on getbig in all of 2014
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: falco on November 14, 2014, 03:57:27 AM
hip against the equipment to prevent injure low back


You remind me of Galeniko with all the posing at the end. Great flexibility.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Ropo on November 14, 2014, 07:51:43 PM
Stupidest post on getbig in all of 2014

Or stupidest reader. What I try to point out is the fact, that in the bodybuilding you make choices, but you don't know if it's right before years of training. Only history and outcome will prove if you have choose correctly, so you need to know what you do. By that picture you can't say if the back would be grown wider with the old school rows or not, but you clearly see that it hasn't got very wide by Yates rows.
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: BigRo on November 15, 2014, 01:19:15 AM
Or stupidest reader. What I try to point out is the fact, that in the bodybuilding you make choices, but you don't know if it's right before years of training. Only history and outcome will prove if you have choose correctly, so you need to know what you do. By that picture you can't say if the back would be grown wider with the old school rows or not, but you clearly see that it hasn't got very wide by Yates rows.

you needs glasses Poopo
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Henda on November 15, 2014, 01:35:22 AM
Or stupidest reader. What I try to point out is the fact, that in the bodybuilding you make choices, but you don't know if it's right before years of training. Only history and outcome will prove if you have choose correctly, so you need to know what you do. By that picture you can't say if the back would be grown wider with the old school rows or not, but you clearly see that it hasn't got very wide by Yates rows.

Ro's back is plenty wide if you can't see that your blind and if you read properly he clearly said he does both type of rows.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Ropo on November 15, 2014, 12:37:14 PM
Ro's back is plenty wide if you can't see that your blind and if you read properly he clearly said he does both type of rows.


Ok. Now prove that he couldn't have better results by old school rows, or am I asking too much?

Facts: Yates used to row like that because his injuries make the old school rows impossible. Torn biceps etc. do that to you.

Question: Did he invent the better way to do it, or way to do it at the constraints that the injuries set?

Fact: He used to do old school rows up till his injuries make it impossible, so ask yourself is there really a reason to copy his style?

I mean how stupid man have to be to not understand this simple truth?
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: tommywishbone on November 15, 2014, 12:39:17 PM
FOR FUCK SAKE HOW HARD IS IT TO DO A FUCKING BARBELL ROW MORONS.

Truth. Meltdown, but still truthful. 
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Deadlifted on November 15, 2014, 12:41:52 PM
Im a fan of the pendlay style of row where you pull off the ground and bring it back down. I like to supplement it with slow high rep DB rows since the pendlay row is more of a controlled explosive exercise.
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: local hero on November 15, 2014, 12:45:31 PM
Ok. Now prove that he couldn't have better results by old school rows, or am I asking too much?

Facts: Yates used to row like that because his injuries make the old school rows impossible. Torn biceps etc. do that to you.

Question: Did he invent the better way to do it, or way to do it at the constraints that the injuries set?

Fact: He used to do old school rows up till his injuries make it impossible, so ask yourself is there really a reason to copy his style?

I mean how stupid man have to be to not understand this simple truth?


What you on about, Yates rowed curl grip in the same stance?...troll or moron, you decide....
Title: Re: Rich Pianna teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Henda on November 15, 2014, 01:59:36 PM
Ok. Now prove that he couldn't have better results by old school rows, or am I asking too much?

Facts: Yates used to row like that because his injuries make the old school rows impossible. Torn biceps etc. do that to you.

Question: Did he invent the better way to do it, or way to do it at the constraints that the injuries set?

Fact: He used to do old school rows up till his injuries make it impossible, so ask yourself is there really a reason to copy his style?

I mean how stupid man have to be to not understand this simple truth?

You are repeatedly saying big Ro would get better results rowing old school style when it has been stated several times he regularly performs both styles
Title: Re: Rich Piana teach us how to bent row right.
Post by: Donny on November 20, 2014, 06:40:05 AM
Another good thing with a Barbell is you can also vary your grip width. will it make a huge difference? maybe not but for an advanced trainer yes. Attention to detail. Will bringing the bar higher in the end position matter or lower to waist make a difference? When using a wide grip i like to lie on a slightly inclined bench. A stable foot position is important, i feel more stable with a closer foot position. my Gravity is better so i feel at a better mechanical advantage to pull.