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I think America was clearly out of line with South Africa. It's pretty clear the only way to protect yourself from blacks is to segregate them (even that isn't REALLY safe but it is an improvement).
Shall we vote YES for a modern and humanitarian 21st century form of Apartheid in the USA? I mean Israel does it, so don't we deserve the same protections as Israel?
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I'll thak that ^^^ as a YES vote.
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Those are a reference to your trolling...
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I suppose that knowing that my posting will not change your mind could itself be considered "trolling".
Call it a form of "active armor"....eh?
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This is no laughing matter. The longer we delay, the more innocent lives destroyed.
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Reality for white South Africans...
(http://espressostalinist.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/apartheid-signs-in-south-africa-1956_jpg.jpg)
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Our modern western society with its forced 'multiculturalism' and curious and as-yet unexplained mantra of 'diversity gives us strength' is, in the grand scheme of things, a wholly unique social experiment which has never led to any successful and powerful nation ever. It is an unnatural state of things and cannot be maintained for long. Future people will look back on our current hyper-PC era as a strange aberration in history, a failed experiment...nothing more.
The natural state of things will always restore itself before too long.
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Since 1994, an estimated 68,798 white South Africans have been murdered of which 4041 were commercial farmers.
Accurate figures are very difficult to source as the South African police repeatedly fail to report most of the murders that take place.
There is also no distinction between white and black victims in crime records.
(the pictures below are extremely graphic, and are only used to illustrate the true brutality that exists behind the happy, smiling mainstream media images of the ‘Rainbow Nation.’)
As the white population of South Africa was 4,434,697 according to the official state census in 1996, and more than 400,000 white South Africans have left the country, it could be estimated that nearly 2% of white South Africans have been murdered in the 18 years of democracy.
(http://outlawjimmy.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/2013012180723.jpg?w=627)
Compare that to the 7518 black people that were murdered by the Apartheid government, which comes to a percentage of 0.02% of the black population.
So, if anybody ever asks you how many black people were killed by white people in South Africa, you can tell them that black people have murdered roughly 100 times more white people in the last 63 years.
(http://outlawjimmy.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/20130125-1808jpg?w=627)
White Farmers Murdered by Blacks
There were roughly 128,000 commercial farmers in South Africa in 1980. Today there are 40,000 commercial farmers left in South Africa.
Since 1994, an estimated 4041 farmers have been murdered and many more maimed, tortured, raped and assaulted. These attacks spare no-one on the property, including babies who have been wrapped in fuel-soaked towels before being set on fire.
The percentages are pretty alarming. Even though it’s an inaccurate way of expressing murder rates, one could argue that almost 10% of white farmers in South Africa have been murdered.
(http://outlawjimmy.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/20130-180933.jpg?w=627)
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It may be an idea to ask Itumeleng Mabeba, an employee at security company Bidvest Magnum, where he got the idea to rape white women with broken bottles, as stories and images are now emerging that show how it has become almost a trademark of farm attackers to rape and disembowel white women with broken bottles.
This 80 year old white lady was the victim of such an attack.
(http://outlawjimmy.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/20130125-18.jpg?w=627)
http://outlawjimmy.com/tag/anc/
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Nelson Mandela was on the terrorist watch list until 2008
so it's not so far off
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(http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/44000/Nelson-Mandela--44087.jpg)
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Mandella WAS a terrorist. That is why he spent 27 years in jail.
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Mandella WAS a terrorist. That is why he spent 27 years in jail.
WAS. people change, read his book his dosnt hide his past it was what it was. I happen to think the man was a amazing man.
Also just so you know the white South African accually respected that man after he earned their trust back
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WAS. people change, read his book his dosnt hide his past it was what it was. I happen to think the man was a amazing man.
Also just so you know the white South African accually respected that man after he earned their trust back
Yeah he really earned their trust. Black on white murder and rape capital of the world ::)
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If the black man isn't careful, it won't be apartheid, it'll be an ethnic cleansing. 330,000,000 people, half a billion guns, almost all in civilian, white hands.
Don't want no trouble? Don't start no trouble.
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If the black man isn't careful, it won't be apartheid, it'll be an ethnic cleansing. 330,000,000 people, half a billion guns, almost all in civilian, white hands.
Don't want no trouble? Don't start no trouble.
But they keep poking the hornets nest.
Stupidity at it's finest ;D
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But they keep poking the hornets nest.
Stupidity at it's finest ;D
Stupid people find out too late that "quiet" doesn't mean "subjugated". The Bosnian Muslims found out quick about the Serbs and it was only the intervention of NATO that saved them.
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But they keep poking the hornets nest.
Stupidity at it's finest ;D
Maybe white people should've stayed in Europe and not moved to South Africa.
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On a side note and jokes a side, it is sad to see America heading down this road. Instead of uniting and fighting against common enemies, start fighting each other.
(http://radudobritoiu.ro/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/MEDEVAC.jpg)
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The real civil war won't be between whites and blacks, it'll be between the individualists and the collectivists. Or maybe between the Citizenry and the credentialed political class.
As soon as the black man realizes that he is nothing more than an indentured Jannisary of the democrat party, he will be riding with us and we will welcome his free-ass to these United States of America!
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The real civil war won't be between whites and blacks, it'll be between the individualists and the collectivists. Or maybe between the Citizenry and the credentialed political class.
As soon as the black man realizes that he is nothing more than an indentured servant of the democrat party, he will be riding with us and we will welcome his free-ass to these United States of America!
Just keep the party towns in the US full of sloots for when I pop over on holiday, do whatever you want with the rest.
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Just keep the party towns in the US full of sloots for when I pop over on holiday, do whatever you want with the rest.
I will do my best, my friend. I will admit that rebuilding the tourism business will be a far second to my overriding concern of rebuilding the broken American psyche and moral terpitude.
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Our modern western society with its forced 'multiculturalism' and curious and as-yet unexplained mantra of 'diversity gives us strength' is, in the grand scheme of things, a wholly unique social experiment which has never led to any successful and powerful nation ever. It is an unnatural state of things and cannot be maintained for long. Future people will look back on our current hyper-PC era as a strange aberration in history, a failed experiment...nothing more.
The natural state of things will always restore itself before too long.
Communist rulers in politics and media in the western world, most do not know or like to admit it...
The irony of America, how it fought so hard against communism(except for wwii) only to become it. The soviet union did not die, it just moved...
The marxist agenda pushed everywhere :-X
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Maybe white people should've stayed in Europe and not moved to South Africa.
Spoken like a TRUE RACIST. Black huh?
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Spoken like a TRUE RACIST. Black huh?
No I'm white.
Would you move to South Africa? I'm guessing not.
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No I'm white.
Would you move to South Africa? I'm guessing not.
I stay as far away from blacks as possible.
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I stay as far away from blacks as possible.
Ok. So you are kind of agreeing with me. It was not the wisest place for Europeans to settle/colonize.
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After I have read about the things that are happening in South Africa my attitude toward the blacks changed by a LOT. The savage can't even describe these walking atrocities.
The remaining whites should leave this hell hole and never look back. The Boer, even though they have been there since the 1700s, should get the fuck out. In hindsight the Afrikaner "Weerstandsbewegung" was a nice idea but why fight over scorched earth where you're going to get killed by ANC and company anyways.
Leave, if you can, and do not look b(l)ack - don't waste your life on low lives that are below the mental capacity of a freshly cut turd.
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I stay as far away from blacks as possible.
Isolated in your stronghold in the Rocky Mountains?
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Maybe white people should've stayed in Europe and not moved to South Africa.
Then the same applies to North and south
America, Australia and New Zealand
you dumb c unt.
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Then the same applies to North and south
America, Australia and New Zealand
you dumb c unt.
There was a Lot of bloodshed & death (on both sides) involved in setting up colonies around the world
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Our modern western society with its forced 'multiculturalism' and curious and as-yet unexplained mantra of 'diversity gives us strength' is, in the grand scheme of things, a wholly unique social experiment which has never led to any successful and powerful nation ever. It is an unnatural state of things and cannot be maintained for long. Future people will look back on our current hyper-PC era as a strange aberration in history, a failed experiment...nothing more.
The natural state of things will always restore itself before too long.
This. Well said, Sir.
It is a Failed experiment.
Needs to stop Now.
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where ever whites are, blacks will follow. Looking for a handout
are you guys even aware of the countries bordering to Europe. Spain has a huge problem with this. Guarded and barbwired fences to keep out thousands of blacks trying to enter Europe every day
Google; "spain african immigration"
(http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-1430/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/6/25/1403697790391/313c5e38-03f2-4eef-a6ed-8e1d3ef6b55d-2060x1236.jpeg)
(http://admin.beta.news.linktv.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Spain-African-migration.jpg)
also notice there is only black men, leaving their woman and children behind. how noble of them ::) alot of them seek their way through europe all the way up to Sweden :-X
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The real civil war won't be between whites and blacks, it'll be between the individualists and the collectivists. Or maybe between the Citizenry and the credentialed political class.
As soon as the black man realizes that he is nothing more than an indentured Jannisary of the democrat party, he will be riding with us and we will welcome his free-ass to these United States of America!
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for this to happen. As a result of social engineering in the form of the welfare state, there currently is negligible entrepreneurial spirit in the black community. It's all about getting more from the guberment.
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where ever whites are, blacks will follow. Looking for a handout
are you guys even aware of the countries bordering to Europe. Spain has a huge problem with this. Guarded and barbwired fences to keep out thousands of blacks trying to enter Europe every day
Google; "spain african immigration"
(http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-1430/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/6/25/1403697790391/313c5e38-03f2-4eef-a6ed-8e1d3ef6b55d-2060x1236.jpeg)
(http://admin.beta.news.linktv.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Spain-African-migration.jpg)
also notice there is only black men, leaving their woman and children behind. how noble of them ::) alot of them seek their way through europe all the way up to Sweden :-X
I think that whites did the same thing back in the day
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I think that whites did the same thing back in the day
how do you mean? live on handouts from blacks? lol
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I think that whites did the same thing back in the day
How.
Please explain your reasoning.
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Most people segregate themselves anyway. Whites want to live among other whites so quickly move out of areas that become increasingly black. Humans are tribal so prefer mixing with people who resemble them and their culture. They can relate to them easier.
It seems to me that the black American feels that the white man is holding the black race down while the white man feels that the black man is holding America down. Malcolm X and the black power movement even befriended the white power movement since they both supported an America that was divided by race.
It's not workable though. Most of us have friends of different races which help make us more tolerant towards one another and keep any frustrations hidden.
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how do you mean? live on handouts from blacks? lol
I meant that when things were not going well for certain groups in Europe, those particular groups would pack themselves on boats and head to another continent. Sometimes the men left their families behind.
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I meant that when things were not going well for certain groups in Europe, those particular groups would pack themselves on boats and head to another continent. Sometimes the men left their families behind.
yes that's one orgument from leftists. difference is they contributed, behaved civil and acutally worked for a living.
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yes that's one orgument from leftists. difference is they contributed, behaved civil and acutally worked for a living.
I'm not a leftist. I just don't judge all black people as being trouble. Some black people are nothing but trouble. But most are not.
That's just my opinion.
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I'm not a leftist. I just don't judge all black people as being trouble. Some black people are nothing but trouble. But most are not.
That's just my opinion.
ofcourse there's some good blacks. But you have to generalize to draw conclusions about groups and races.
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I'm troll detector is going off now, Muscle-man2013.
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I think America was clearly out of line with South Africa. It's pretty clear the only way to protect yourself from blacks is to segregate them (even that isn't REALLY safe but it is an improvement).
Shall we vote YES for a modern and humanitarian 21st century form of Apartheid in the USA? I mean Israel does it, so don't we deserve the same protections as Israel?
Of course, not ALL blacks are trouble, but most.
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I'm not a leftist. I just don't judge all black people as being trouble. Some black people are nothing but trouble. But most are not.
That's just my opinion.
One an individual base totally, overall not likely. Their culture has been eroded.
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Blacks and whites should be seperated. 'White passes' should be given to certain black people who have above average IQ and who can function in the civilized world.
The white man should remove his hand and then the blacks can rule themselves. Complete chaos will obviously ensue and they will still blame the white man.
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where ever whites are, blacks will follow. Looking for a handout
This, they are parasites who bring chaos. Look at for example somali monkeys, how many of them actually contribute anything to the western world? 80-90% don't work and just live on welfare. How long will white guilt allow these cockroaches to infest the western world? They are shadow people who don't work, steal money from hardworking taxpayers, only socialize amongst themselves and have zero intellectual curiousity. You see groups of them at night time (when normal people are sleeping because they have to get up to work) shuffling around like shabby zombies. You can see in their eyes that there is nothing there.
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Blacks and whites should be seperated. 'White passes' should be given to certain black people who have above average IQ and who can function in the civilized world.
The white man should remove his hand and then the blacks can rule themselves. Complete chaos will obviously ensue and they will still blame the white man.
I have often thought this same thing :D
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This, they are parasites who bring chaos. Look at for example somali monkeys, how many of them actually contribute anything to the western world? 80-90% don't work and just live on welfare. How long will white guilt allow these cockroaches to infest the western world? They are shadow people who don't work, steal money from hardworking taxpayers, only socialize amongst themselves and have zero intellectual curiousity. You see groups of them at night time (when normal people are sleeping because they have to get up to work) shuffling around like shabby zombies. You can see in their eyes that there is nothing there.
well just take a look at Haiti. Blacks where left to rule themselves.
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I have often thought this same thing :D
Yet they can't explain why some chink fresh of the boat can start up a successful business while they have had several hundred years to establish themselves in the US.
They should have sent in the military into Ferguson. Rioters and looters should have been shot.
Fucking parasites.
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well just take a look at Haiti. Blacks where left to rule themselves.
Right, it ends up being a disease ridden shithole and the white man has to come and clean up the mess.
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when do we get to talk about the sins of the white devil?
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I'd rather have women camps. We can use them when we need them but otherwise keep them away.
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I'd rather have women camps. We can use them when we need them but otherwise keep them away.
Just legalize rape.
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Just legalize rape.
You mean it's not ....
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well just take a look at Haiti. Blacks where left to rule themselves.
just noticed this
please fill us in on the details here because this particular example really interesting
tell me about haiti
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just noticed this
please fill us in on the details here because this particular example really interesting
tell me about haiti
:)
There's also Liberia...
A country of freed slaves.....who enslaved the rest of the population.
(Or at least that's according to a Vice guide documentary I watched about it)
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just noticed this
please fill us in on the details here because this particular example really interesting
tell me about haiti
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google it u lazy guy
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Our modern western society with its forced 'multiculturalism' and curious and as-yet unexplained mantra of 'diversity gives us strength' is, in the grand scheme of things, a wholly unique social experiment which has never led to any successful and powerful nation ever. It is an unnatural state of things and cannot be maintained for long. Future people will look back on our current hyper-PC era as a strange aberration in history, a failed experiment...nothing more.
The natural state of things will always restore itself before too long.
this is true. We are 'swimming against the current' with no destination in mind. There is really no logical happy ending to the road we are on. At some point our society has to realize this and change courses, or simply fail and dissolve into something else.
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haiti is probably the most invaded country in the western hemisphere
spain france and the us have been messing around in there for centuries
right up to 2004
thats why I'm curious to hear your thoughts on the matter of haitian society
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Perhaps the future of America will be several 'American' governments.
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There's also Liberia...
A country of freed slaves.....who enslaved the rest of the population.
(Or at least that's according to a Vice guide documentary I watched about it)
haha ya well that's not really accurate.
it's an interesting comparison.
These are the colonial back yard nations where the "unruly" slaves ended up so they get extra attention
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Perhaps the future of America will be several 'American' governments.
the country is pretty much split in two right now
team freedom approved
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It's seriously time to start DNA manipulating the negroes to get their brains working properly. Upgrade the chimp.
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It's seriously time to start DNA manipulating the negroes to get their brains working properly. Upgrade the chimp.
Maybe give them Bananas injected with Heme Iron, Kale Greens, Sea Salt and Beepollen?
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I think nanotech is the way to handle this
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Perhaps the future of America will be several 'American' governments.
once the transition was made this would work better than the current. Then the stupid lib-tards could go love amongst "the other Americans" and I wouldn't have too listen to their regurgitated bullshit.
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I stay as far away from blacks as possible.
Hi pillowtalk
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Stupidity at it's finest ;D
Perhaps learn when to use and when not to use an apostrophe, dude. In a sentence where you target another as being "stupid".
In this case, it would be " ... at ITS ... " (and "finest" is a very poor choice of word for what you're trying to say, by the way).
HTH
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Well said, these loud mouthed libs are such fucking delusional liars and shit brains.
White man is holding the black man down, HA HA HA - thats why we have to build massive border barriers and employ DHS and Navy to stop them from swamping us in the millions ::)
where ever whites are, blacks will follow. Looking for a handout
are you guys even aware of the countries bordering to Europe. Spain has a huge problem with this. Guarded and barbwired fences to keep out thousands of blacks trying to enter Europe every day
Google; "spain african immigration"
(http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-1430/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2014/6/25/1403697790391/313c5e38-03f2-4eef-a6ed-8e1d3ef6b55d-2060x1236.jpeg)
(http://admin.beta.news.linktv.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Spain-African-migration.jpg)
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Same could be said for all those white hating mexicunts flooding the border looking for a better life in white man land.
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Perhaps learn when to use and when not to use an apostrophe, dude. In a sentence where you target another as being "stupid".
In this case, it would be " ... at ITS ... " (and "finest" is a very poor choice of word for what you're trying to say, by the way).
HTH
Desperate for a comeback huh?
You do realize your own sentence is grammatically incorrect? ::) (no of course you don't)
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just noticed this
please fill us in on the details here because this particular example really interesting
tell me about haiti
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Haiti :D
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Can't wait to live next door to you upstanding white folk.
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Haiti :D
I'm not that familiar with the Haitian history.
Is that video remotely accurate.
It seems to me this is similar to what is happening
In Some areas of America & Europe.
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well just take a look at Haiti. Blacks where left to rule themselves.
sigh....you spout off nonsense like you know what you're talking about and you know little of what actually happened....
First off blacks were not "left to rule themselves" in Haiti...blacks kicked the french whites out of Haiti after kicking their ass in a war......however the racial policies and legacies that the French left behind still caused divisions among the population due to the lighter skinned mulattoes (who had mixed with the French) wanting to rule over the darker skinned Haitians.....the fact is many nations of the world of that time were terified that Haiti was a self-governing nation and some nations did everything they could to try and sabotage Haiti's success and even contemplated invasion to overthrow the government.....you don't understand that racism is a mental illness that will continue to cause problems for everyone in society......
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Desperate for a comeback huh?
You do realize your own sentence is grammatically incorrect? ::) (no of course you don't)
This is GetBig.....no one here is writing essays.....you can tell when someone has no logical retort when they resort to calling out someone about their grammar
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sigh....you spout off nonsense like you know what you're talking about and you know little of what actually happened....
First off blacks were not "left to rule themselves" in Haiti...blacks kicked the french whites out of Haiti after kicking their ass in a war......however the racial policies and legacies that the French left behind still caused divisions among the population due to the lighter skinned mulattoes (who had mixed with the French) wanting to rule over the darker skinned Haitians.....the fact is many nations of the world of that time were terified that Haiti was a self-governing nation and some nations did everything they could to try and sabotage Haiti's success and even contemplated invasion to overthrow the government.....you don't understand that racism is a mental illness that will continue to cause problems for everyone in society......
Pls expand on your knowledge it is good to hear another side of the story.
Though I have to disagree with you on Racism being a 'mental illness'.
As it appears in all races / colours / creed of people I would say it is part & parcel of the human condition wether we like it or not.
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This is GetBig.....no one here is writing essays.....you can tell when someone has no logical retort when they resort to calling out someone about their grammar
You do realize HE was the one calling me out on grammar.......
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You do realize HE was the one calling me out on grammar.......
if he did that then he is wrong as well ;)
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sigh....you spout off nonsense like you know what you're talking about and you know little of what actually happened....
First off blacks were not "left to rule themselves" in Haiti...blacks kicked the french whites out of Haiti after kicking their ass in a war......however the racial policies and legacies that the French left behind still caused divisions among the population due to the lighter skinned mulattoes (who had mixed with the French) wanting to rule over the darker skinned Haitians.....the fact is many nations of the world of that time were terified that Haiti was a self-governing nation and some nations did everything they could to try and sabotage Haiti's success and even contemplated invasion to overthrow the government.....you don't understand that racism is a mental illness that will continue to cause problems for everyone in society......
Ahhh the victim narrative, still blaming negrow problems on whitey and slavery.
wash. rinse. repeat.
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I'm not that familiar with the Haitian history.
Is that video remotely accurate.
It seems to me this is similar to what is happening
In Some areas of America & Europe.
The narrator starts out explaining what he calls the "madness of democracy" as the sources of the worlds problems
at the end he claims no scholar or publisher would touch this material because it's pathologically racist and genocidal.
It's fairly honest but not accurate with the history.
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sigh....you spout off nonsense like you know what you're talking about and you know little of what actually happened....
First off blacks were not "left to rule themselves" in Haiti...blacks kicked the french whites out of Haiti after kicking their ass in a war......however the racial policies and legacies that the French left behind still caused divisions among the population due to the lighter skinned mulattoes (who had mixed with the French) wanting to rule over the darker skinned Haitians.....the fact is many nations of the world of that time were terified that Haiti was a self-governing nation and some nations did everything they could to try and sabotage Haiti's success and even contemplated invasion to overthrow the government.....you don't understand that racism is a mental illness that will continue to cause problems for everyone in society......
Are you blaming everyone else for their current problems?
It's several hundred years later now...
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sigh....you spout off nonsense like you know what you're talking about and you know little of what actually happened....
First off blacks were not "left to rule themselves" in Haiti...blacks kicked the french whites out of Haiti after kicking their ass in a war......however the racial policies and legacies that the French left behind still caused divisions among the population due to the lighter skinned mulattoes (who had mixed with the French) wanting to rule over the darker skinned Haitians.....the fact is many nations of the world of that time were terified that Haiti was a self-governing nation and some nations did everything they could to try and sabotage Haiti's success and even contemplated invasion to overthrow the government.....you don't understand that racism is a mental illness that will continue to cause problems for everyone in society......
the colonial legacy is in fact much nastier than this but the mythology of the "benevolent" slave masters persists.
yes can't wait to get more details of Haitis history!
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Are you blaming everyone else for their current problems?
It's several hundred years later now...
the US invaded the country and overthrew the government in 2004
oh yes and the reasons why are even more interesting!
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Ahhh the victim narrative, still blaming negrow problems on whitey and slavery.
wash. rinse. repeat.
Ahhhh...the "its not my fault" narrative...where a group who has systematically destroyed other groups of people through exploitation, genocide, the illegal seizure of lands, invasion, colonialism, segregation, discrimination, and the enactment of Jim Crow laws, deny they had any part in the problems said populations are experiencing due to extreme guilt over their inhumane treatment of others.........
wash, rinse, repeat....
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the colonial legacy is in fact much nastier than this but the mythology of the "benevolent" slave masters persists.
yes can't wait to get more details of Haitis history!
yes...agreed....colonial ism was much much worse than is currently thought
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yes...agreed....colonialism was much much worse than is currently thought
Well I'm open minded perhaps there is some new material that will better illuminate the situation here.
yes fellas please share your findings on haiti so that we may examaine them!
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Ahhhh...the "its not my fault" narrative...where a group who has systematically destroyed other groups of people through exploitation, genocide, the illegal seizure of lands, invasion, colonialism, segregation, discrimination, and the enactment of Jim Crow laws, deny they had any part in the problems said populations are experiencing due to extreme guilt over their inhumane treatment of others.........
wash, rinse, repeat....
So it's everyone else's fault....
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...you don't understand that racism is a mental illness that will continue to cause problems for everyone in society......
Agreed. That's why blacks need to stop being racist. They're the most racist bigot race on the planet. Cease this behavior or we're gonna have ourselves a fucking problem - m'kay?!
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sigh....you spout off nonsense like you know what you're talking about and you know little of what actually happened....
First off blacks were not "left to rule themselves" in Haiti...blacks kicked the french whites out of Haiti after kicking their ass in a war......however the racial policies and legacies that the French left behind still caused divisions among the population due to the lighter skinned mulattoes (who had mixed with the French) wanting to rule over the darker skinned Haitians.....the fact is many nations of the world of that time were terified that Haiti was a self-governing nation and some nations did everything they could to try and sabotage Haiti's success and even contemplated invasion to overthrow the government.....you don't understand that racism is a mental illness that will continue to cause problems for everyone in society......
You forgot to add a little detail. The darkies attacked, raped and murdered a few thousand of the remaining French at night when they were not suspecting foul play. They didn't just kick them out - they murdered, mutilated and raped them. And it was not a fair fight because they were caught off guard.
Those darkies really should not be on the Island. The real victims are the Taino people.
I'd like to see the Africans in Haiti disappear and the Taino People return. The Africans can go back to Africa or just stop breeding and die off. The whole world will be better off as a result.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ta%C3%ADno (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ta%C3%ADno)
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You forgot to add a little detail. The darkies attacked, raped and murdered a few thousand of the remaining French at night when they were not suspecting foul play. They didn't just kick them out - they murdered, mutilated and raped them. And it was not a fair fight because they were caught off guard.
Those darkies really should not be on the Island. The real victims are the Taino people.
I'd like to see the Africans in Haiti disappear and the Taino People return. The Africans can go back to Africa or just stop breeding and die off. The whole world will be better off as a result.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ta%C3%ADno (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ta%C3%ADno)
Dude I can't believe you used wikipedia as a source......talk about being totally un-academic....but anyway how do you argue with someone who would post what you posted....lets just agree to disagree
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So it's everyone else's fault....
no one said that...your assuming
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Dude I can't believe you used wikipedia as a source......talk about being totally un-academic....
Yeah we can tell you only refer to the finest books in academia :D
If it wasn't for dose evil white men Africans would have colonized space by now :D
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Yeah we can tell you only refer to the finest books in academia :D
If it wasn't for dose evil white men Africans would have colonized space by now :D
;D
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Dude I can't believe you used wikipedia as a source......talk about being totally un-academic....but anyway how do you argue with someone who would post what you posted....lets just agree to disagree
Have you ever looked at the bottom of Wikipedia pages? They list their sources.
Where are your sources?
It's a fact those Africans were brought to Haiti by boat - that's not their original land. Are you going to argue that or what exactly do you not agree with?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_Massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_Massacre)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Manuel_Lopez_Lopez_Iodibo_-_Desalines_-_Huyes_del_valor_frances%2C_pero_matando_blancos.jpg/250px-Manuel_Lopez_Lopez_Iodibo_-_Desalines_-_Huyes_del_valor_frances%2C_pero_matando_blancos.jpg)
A 1806 engraving of Jean-Jacques Dessalines. It depicts the general, sword raised in one arm, while the other holds a severed head of a white woman.
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Have you ever looked at the bottom of Wikipedia pages? They list their sources.
Where are your sources?
It's a fact those Africans were brought to Haiti by boat - that's not their original land. Are you going to argue that or what exactly do you not agree with?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_Massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_Massacre)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Manuel_Lopez_Lopez_Iodibo_-_Desalines_-_Huyes_del_valor_frances%2C_pero_matando_blancos.jpg/250px-Manuel_Lopez_Lopez_Iodibo_-_Desalines_-_Huyes_del_valor_frances%2C_pero_matando_blancos.jpg)
A 1806 engraving of Jean-Jacques Dessalines. It depicts the general, sword raised in one arm, while the other holds a severed head of a white woman.
yes mr.obsidian thanks for your contributions to this discussion
perhaps you could elaborate on the just how the darkies were invited to this wonderful island in the sun?
Pretty nice of those spaniards to offer them a free boat ride!
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Yeah we can tell you only refer to the finest books in academia :D
If it wasn't for dose evil white men Africans would have colonized space by now :D
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Have you ever looked at the bottom of Wikipedia pages? They list their sources.
Where are your sources?
It's a fact those Africans were brought to Haiti by boat - that's not their original land. Are you going to argue that or what exactly do you not agree with?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_Massacre (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1804_Haiti_Massacre)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/65/Manuel_Lopez_Lopez_Iodibo_-_Desalines_-_Huyes_del_valor_frances%2C_pero_matando_blancos.jpg/250px-Manuel_Lopez_Lopez_Iodibo_-_Desalines_-_Huyes_del_valor_frances%2C_pero_matando_blancos.jpg)
A 1806 engraving of Jean-Jacques Dessalines. It depicts the general, sword raised in one arm, while the other holds a severed head of a white woman.
it becomes your original land once you are born there................... .
by your reasoning this isn't the original land of all the whites in the United states
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it becomes your original land once you are born there................... .
by your reasoning this isn't the original land of all the whites in the United states
the europeans arrived on a boat in Haiti too no need to discuss the US
I don't really get this reasoning either
I'm sure he will clarify shortly :)
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the europeans arrived on a boat in Haiti too no need to discuss the US
I don't really get this reasoning either
I'm sure he will clarify shortly :)
again...some are afflicted with a strange malady whereby they just simply cannot take responsibility and must distort history so as to not be on the defensive and ponder the ramifications of the TRUTH..this strange malady afflicts all peoples
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it becomes your original land once you are born there................... .
by your reasoning this isn't the original land of all the whites in the United states
We're all part of Earth. We were all born on the planet so it belong to everyone. However, the Tainos lived there for thousands of years and were replaced. And diversity was lost. Blacks should never have been brought over via slavery in the first place. They should have been left in Africa. The payoff was totally not worth it.
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We're all part of Earth. We were all born on the planet so it belong to everyone. However, the Tainos lived there for thousands of years and were replaced. And diversity was lost. Blacks should never have been brought over via slavery in the first place. They should have been left in Africa. The payoff was totally not worth it.
and by your reasoning, Whites should have stayed in Europe.....things would be better as well,....we also conveniently overlook that the Tainos were totally wiped out by the Europeans (the Spanish)....and Europeans almost wiped out the American Indian...or was that justified as well???
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and by your reasoning, Whites should have stayed in Europe.....things would be better as well,....we also conveniently overlook that the Tainos were totally wiped out by the Europeans (the Spanish)....and Europeans almost wiped out the American Indian...or was that justified as well???
No it was not justified. The American Indians got a very raw deal.
Only thing is whites brought civilization, technology and infrastructure to these countries they took over and what have the blacks brought to Haiti for example?
That being said I would have been fine with Europe staying white and America being a giant game reserve with wild life and Indians running around. Europeans could have toured America and Africa by airplane or balloons etc. Now what do we have to look at - Detroit?! No thanks.
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No it was not justified. The American Indians got a very raw deal.
Only thing is whites brought civilization, technology and infrastructure to these countries they took over and what have the blacks brought to Haiti for example?
That being said I would have been fine with Europe staying white and America being a giant game reserve with wild life and Indians running around. Europeans could have toured America and Africa by airplane or balloons etc. Now what do we have to look at - Detroit?! No thanks.
The whole point is that yes I agree that Europeans brought civilization, technology and infrastructure.....but did so in a xenophopic manner...it would have been a much better accomplishment had it been done with out all the mass murder, genocide and slavery
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The whole point is that yes I agree that Europeans brought civilization, technology and infrastructure.....but did so in a xenophopic manner...it would have been a much better accomplishment had it been done with out all the mass murder, genocide and slavery
Has it been anywhere else on Earth during the course of human history.
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We're all part of Earth. We were all born on the planet so it belong to everyone. However, the Tainos lived there for thousands of years and were replaced. And diversity was lost. Blacks should never have been brought over via slavery in the first place. They should have been left in Africa. The payoff was totally not worth it.
haiti produced 50% of the GDP of France around the 1750's
huge fortunes were made so how is there "no payoff" ???
France would probably be reduced to the another backwater without it ...hmmm
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Yeah we can tell you only refer to the finest books in academia :D
If it wasn't for dose evil white men Africans would have colonized space by now :D
Whatch your mouth
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Has it been anywhere else on Earth during the course of human history.
hard to say since history usually only seems to document calamities more than the good stuff ;)
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hard to say since history usually only seems to document calamities more than the good stuff ;)
Good stuff is subjective. Good stuff would be whatever was beneficial at the time. I'm going to blow your mind, andre. Because of the familial closeness within black African tribes involved in the slave trade. You are more likely to have a direct line to the slave trading than the average white person.
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again...some are afflicted with a strange malady whereby they just simply cannot take responsibility and must distort history so as to not be on the defensive and ponder the ramifications of the TRUTH..this strange malady afflicts all peoples
Been thinking about this. I think these intellectual gymnastics are reasonable to a degree.
Once you take your boot off someones neck they suddenly become free to exact revenge upon you. The defensiveness is well founded.
This is why haiti gets held up as a "failure". The slaves killed a few thousand europeans as soon as they got free.
the recent history is just as interesting but almost nobody pays attention to what really goes on in haiti...
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Been thinking about this. I think these intellectual gymnastics are reasonable to a degree.
Once you take your boot off someones neck they suddenly become free to exact revenge upon you. The defensiveness is well founded.
This is why haiti gets held up as a "failure". The slaves killed a few thousand europeans as soon as they got free.
the recent history is just as interesting but almost nobody pays attention to what really goes on in haiti...
Go on...
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After independence, Haiti was required to pay France a huge amount money, specifically in retribution for eliminating the colonial power.
It's generally accepted that the demand was illegal but nobody did anything about it so the country was plunged into debt.
This is in fact what ruined the country economically.
In 2003 the president of haiti made the mistake of "requesting reparations" from the colonial entity France
...it wasn't long before this fellow found himself on a one way trip to Africa courtesy of the US Army :o
Half the wealth of France came out of this island and these days people there can be found literally eating dirt to survive.
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haiti produced 50% of the GDP of France around the 1750's
huge fortunes were made so how is there "no payoff" ???
France would probably be reduced to the another backwater without it ...hmmm
And who's to say they could not have achieve any profits with only white Frenchmen in Haiti? And remember I said shortsightedness. There were short term gains but long term it offered no benefits. Haiti today is a slum, the Tainos that lived their virtually gone and a few thousand white french men, women and children genocided.
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andre. Because of the familial closeness within black African tribes involved in the slave trade. You are more likely to have a direct line to the slave trading than the average white person.
So you are saying the average African American is more likely a direct descendant of a slave trader than the average white American?
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And who's to say they could not have achieve any profits with only white Frenchmen in Haiti? And remember I said shortsightedness. There were short term gains but long term it offered no benefits. Haiti today is a slum, the Tainos that lived their virtually gone and a few thousand white french men, women and children genocided.
France extorted payments from the country long kicking them out. They became a major industrial power as a result.
want to discuss this but the thoughts are highly jumble bumbled and fumbled up
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Ahhhh...the "its not my fault" narrative...where a group who has systematically destroyed other groups of people through exploitation, genocide, the illegal seizure of lands, invasion, colonialism, segregation, discrimination, and the enactment of Jim Crow laws, deny they had any part in the problems said populations are experiencing due to extreme guilt over their inhumane treatment of others.........
wash, rinse, repeat....
Shut up, rapist.
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Good stuff is subjective. Good stuff would be whatever was beneficial at the time. I'm going to blow your mind, andre. Because of the familial closeness within black African tribes involved in the slave trade. You are more likely to have a direct line to the slave trading than the average white person.
EPIC minimizing of white responsibility ;)
I would also offer to you that SLAVERY IS ACTUALLY MORE WHITE HISTORY THAN BLACK HISTORY....WHITES IMPOSED AND ENFORCED IT NOT ONLY THROUGH CRUELTY BUT THROUGH LAWS WHICH WERE SANCTIONED BY AUTHORITY...
BY SAYING THAT SLAVERY IS "BLACK HISTORY"...IT MINIMIZES YOUR ROLE, PARTICIPATION, AND YES,........GUILT
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EPIC minimizing of white responsibility ;)
Lets just not mention that blacks (slaving and selling each other) introduced the black slaver trade to Europe eh? EPIC denial of black culture.
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I would also offer to you that SLAVERY IS ACTUALLY MORE WHITE HISTORY THAN BLACK HISTORY....WHITES IMPOSED AND ENFORCED IT NOT ONLY THROUGH CRUELTY BUT THROUGH LAWS WHICH WERE SANCTIONED BY AUTHORITY...
LOL because blacks didn't have written laws AT ALL? Just a sick cruel cultural belief and practice. Epic DENIAL.
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Been thinking about this. I think these intellectual gymnastics are reasonable to a degree.
Once you take your boot off someones neck they suddenly become free to exact revenge upon you. The defensiveness is well founded.
This is why haiti gets held up as a "failure". The slaves killed a few thousand europeans as soon as they got free.
the recent history is just as interesting but almost nobody pays attention to what really goes on in haiti...
Good point....many people justify black problems by saying "its their fault...they were freed over 20 years ago".....however they conveniently forget that after blacks were "freed", blacks began to build businesses, and were being elected to government in record numbers.....a large number of the white southern population became jealous and thus the KKK was born and the government colluded with white businessmen and law enforcement to enact segregation and jim crow laws tp prevent blacks from going to school, voting, and owning businesses....and it was enforced by terror (burning down of houses, lynchings) and this lasted up until the mid 1960's
I think the REAL PROBLEM with race relations is that WHITES DO NOT KNOW THEIR OWN HISTORY AND ARE IGNORANT TO THE ROLE OF THEIR GREAT GRANDFATHERS, GRAND FATHERS, AND FATHERS in regards to the situation occurring presently...thus the denial of white complicity
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Shut up, rapist.
ahhh.....I love it when someone has no intellectual retort and resorts to name calling...it shows the thread topic is too intellectual for them and they feel bad that they don't have the intellectual capacity to fit in..
why not go back to the sex boards where I'm sure you spend most of your time so you can masturbate without having to think?
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Lets just not mention that blacks (slaving and selling each other) introduced the black slaver trade to Europe eh? EPIC denial of black culture.
wow...again..EPIC DENIAL......europeans (especially the Romans) had been enslaving people for years....not just them but also the Egyptians, Africans and others too.....Africans didn't introduce anything negative to white culture.....except hip hop :D
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LOL because blacks didn't have written laws AT ALL? Just a sick cruel cultural belief and practice. Epic DENIAL.
not in the United States we didn't....nor did the Indians.....you guys made the laws to benefit yourselves and broke it when it benefitted you as well....not a criticism JUST THE TRUTH
but then again they didn't teach you that in school did they??????????????...they only taught you that columbus was a hero
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ahhh.....I love it when someone has no intellectual retort and resorts to name calling...it shows the thread topic is too intellectual for them and they feel bad that they don't have the intellectual capacity to fit in..
why not go back to the sex boards where I'm sure you spend most of your time so you can masturbate without having to think?
Its s fact. You are a sick rapist.
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Its s fact. You are a sick rapist.
taking a comment that I jokingly made in another thread and bringing it to an intellectual thread shows poor form on your part...you are breaking GetBig protocol....If you're so out of your league in terms of the subject matter then leave thread instead of harrassing me
THANK YOU
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After independence, Haiti was required to pay France a huge amount money, specifically in retribution for eliminating the colonial power.
It's generally accepted that the demand was illegal but nobody did anything about it so the country was plunged into debt.
This is in fact what ruined the country economically.
In 2003 the president of haiti made the mistake of "requesting reparations" from the colonial entity France
...it wasn't long before this fellow found himself on a one way trip to Africa courtesy of the US Army :o
Half the wealth of France came out of this island and these days people there can be found literally eating dirt to survive.
Oh, no doubt. It's just like Germany, they had two world wars, and we're bankrupted from paying reperations, and look at them, crawling in the sewers as they have no way of stabilizing their economy. ::)
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Negroes can't build anything unless they are supervised by the white man.
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EPIC minimizing of white responsibility ;)
I would also offer to you that SLAVERY IS ACTUALLY MORE WHITE HISTORY THAN BLACK HISTORY....WHITES IMPOSED AND ENFORCED IT NOT ONLY THROUGH CRUELTY BUT THROUGH LAWS WHICH WERE SANCTIONED BY AUTHORITY...
BY SAYING THAT SLAVERY IS "BLACK HISTORY"...IT MINIMIZES YOUR ROLE, PARTICIPATION, AND YES,........GUILT
Whites as a group have no responsibility for slavery. I don't have guilt for slavery. Why would I? The fact you can't differentiate between a white slave owner hundreds of years ago and myself is your problem. I don't have to minimize my role, participation and guilt because I had none to begin with.
Slavery is global history not white or black history. Islam enslaved more people for longer than the United States. As a matter of fact, slavery still exists in Islamic countries and Africa for that matter. The Islamic slave trade in Africa was brutal. The males slaves were castrated and the female slaves became concubines. Now that is serious destruction of the black family. Your African ancestors gladly handed over their brothers and sisters to Muslims and Europeans. Slavery was been an institution in Africa for millennium and continues today. Slavery was ended in African countries only because the colonial governments demanded it. In review, European whites are and continue to be the only group that ended slavery as an institution. Islam and African's haven't Instead of guilt, I feel tremendous pride.
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Oh, no doubt. It's just like Germany, they had two world wars, and we're bankrupted from paying reperations, and look at them, crawling in the sewers as they have no way of stabilizing their economy. ::)
Similar tale with Japan. Many countries have been through hell and back and rose from the ashes. If anything, a traumatic history should drive the citizens of such nations to improve and move forward.
However, when a country remains in dire straits year upon year without any sign of improving, you have to start questioning the initiative of the inhabitants.
The black posters here (Parker, Andre etc.) are intelligent guys and as a non-white myself, I'd like to hear what factors (outside colonism) they feel are responsible for the problems countries like Haiti have.
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Whites as a group have no responsibility for slavery. I don't have guilt for slavery. Why would I? The fact you can't differentiate between a white slave owner hundreds of years ago and myself is your problem. I don't have to minimize my role, participation and guilt because I had none to begin with.
Slavery is global history not white or black history. Islam enslaved more people for longer than the United States. As a matter of fact, slavery still exists in Islamic countries and Africa for that matter. The Islamic slave trade in Africa was brutal. The males slaves were castrated and the female slaves became concubines. Now that is serious destruction of the black family. Your African ancestors gladly handed over their brothers and sisters to Muslims and Europeans. Slavery was been an institution in Africa for millennium and continues today. Slavery was ended in African countries only because the colonial governments demanded it. In review, European whites are and continue to be the only group that ended slavery as an institution. Islam and African's haven't Instead of guilt, I feel tremendous pride.
hahahahaha...okay, man...LMFAO.....This is really amazing.....keep being delusional and in denial.....its fine..we're still freinds, man! :D
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hahahahaha...okay, man...LMFAO.....This is really amazing.....keep being delusional and in denial.....its fine..we're still freinds, man! :D
Always friends ;D If I saw you in person I would take you to the nearest bar and buy you a drink.
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The word Slave comes from Slavic. We were the slaves in my part of the world. And then the same Arab/Islamic people that had slaves now point the finger at me? And people point the finger at me because of my skin colour? As if all people with my skin colour (being that I am Ukrainian) are the same? The word "white" is too vague. Racist biggots like Andre here think all whites are the same. WE WERE THE SLAVES YOU RACIST BIGGOT ANDRE!!!
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Similar tale with Japan. Many countries have been through hell and back and rose from the ashes. If anything, a traumatic history should drive the citizens of such nations to improve and move forward.
However, when a country remains in dire straits year upon year without any sign of improving, you have to start questioning the initiative of the inhabitants.
The black posters here (Parker, Andre etc.) are intelligent guys and as a non-white myself, I'd like to hear what factors (outside colonism) they feel are responsible for the problems countries like Haiti have.
Good point...but remember, Japan and Germany didn't do it on their own...they had MASSIVE American financial help....Also in th case of Japan, America practiacally ran the country for a few years after WWII...so the U.S. was able to build up their institutions until they could function on their own..remember..black Americans and American Indians were prevented BY LAW from building up the same
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Oh, no doubt. It's just like Germany, they had two world wars, and we're bankrupted from paying reperations, and look at them, crawling in the sewers as they have no way of stabilizing their economy. ::)
what are you talking about?
Did the government of Germany get overthrown in 2004?
you cannot be serious...you want to compare Haiti to Germany, this will be fun.
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Good point...but remember, Japan and Germany didn't do it on their own...they had MASSIVE American financial help....Also in th case of Japan, America practiacally ran the country for a few years after WWII...so the U.S. was able to build up their institutions until they could function on their own..remember..black Americans and American Indians were prevented BY LAW from building up the same
So that's why blacks never built any functioning civilizations Worth mentioning? even in Africa where there's no 'white man holding them down'...
I know you're black and proud but man face the reality of things
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Actually, there was the Nubian and Ethiopian Empires. Well worth a mention... don't you think? Egypt is technically in Africa.
Also, Egypt includes African people as well... even though most consider themselves "Arab" they are all in fact Egyptian and share that in common. Fair or dark... all are Egyptian and should be given credit for Ancient Egypt - IMO
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The US dollar has African architecture printed on it. What's that about?
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Don't forgot how much Zombie and voo doo culture as well in America and the movies. People love that stuff. We just don't see it... even though it's all around us. I am sure there is Zulu influence as well... since people love great warriors lol
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The US dollar has African architecture printed on it. What's that about?
yeah, just like people don't think about how the walking dead in an African story since it's from voo doo as Zombies are voo doo. Just saying... there's achievements from Africa too... may it be stories or architecture.
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no need to make up elaborate fairy tales about history and so on
actually I'm quite interested in this theme of comparing Germany to Haiti. Very impressive concept!
does someone have the ability to make sense of it?
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Irongrip400
you expressed an interest in the recent history of Haiti so a short summary was provided.
Did you understand it?
Would you like something clarified?
Apparently you have some thoughts on Germany in this context so I'm eager to understand exactly what those thoughts are.
Look forward to hearing from you!
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yeah, just like people don't think about how the walking dead in an African story since it's from voo doo as Zombies are voo doo. Just saying... there's achievements from Africa too... may it be stories or architecture.
agreed, western pop culture is totally dominated by african influences...just look at the music
the modern European cultural "giants" hoarded, and imitated African art
Picasso
(http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/experienceafrica/content/tmp01_clip_image002.jpg)
anyway...maybe we can discuss the wonderful achievements of europe over the last 5 or 6 centuries.
I'm sure these fellas know all about it!
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agreed, western pop culture is totally dominated by african influences...just look at the music
the modern European cultural "giants" hoarded, and imitated African art
Picasso
(http://www.culturaldiplomacy.org/experienceafrica/content/tmp01_clip_image002.jpg)
anyway...maybe we can discuss the wonderful achievements of europe over the last 5 or 6 centuries.
I'm sure these fellas know all about it!
Europe? That would not be P.C. and you might be called a racist lol
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The word Slave comes from Slavic. We were the slaves in my part of the world. And then the same Arab/Islamic people that had slaves now point the finger at me? And people point the finger at me because of my skin colour? As if all people with my skin colour (being that I am Ukrainian) are the same? The word "white" is too vague. Racist biggots like Andre here think all whites are the same. WE WERE THE SLAVES YOU RACIST BIGGOT ANDRE!!!
Oh yeah... I forgot... they STILL HAVE SLAVES!!! JFK tried to free the Slaves around 1964. He told Malik Fisal that "you have slaves there and I want them free!"
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Blacks kill whites 4 x as much in the U.S. For whites it's: "Am I next x 4" ... if you live in the U.S. Whites should also be saying: "Stop the genocide" no more Blacks murdering and maiming whites for their skin colour.
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I think the long-term solution would be ensuring
better levels of compulsory education and a more disciplined
school system with better funding.
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Irongrip400
you expressed an interest in the recent history of Haiti so a short summary was provided.
Did you understand it?
Would you like something clarified?
Apparently you have some thoughts on Germany in this context so I'm eager to understand exactly what those thoughts are.
Look forward to hearing from you!
I was more making the comparison between being a bankrupt nation, burdened by reperations, and rising from the ashes to enjoy success. It had nothing to do with race, Ben, just an observation of that Country in general. DR is in much better shape, and is on the same piece of earth. If there were other factors, please elaborate, as I enjoy learning about happenings of the past from other points of view. I may have just made a sweeping generalization by quoting your post, and it may have been the wrong one, but you seemed to be blaming their economic problems on issues they had with Colonial France. Don't get me wrong, I think it's sad that people are eating dirt, it breaks my heart, but you need to blame the corruption in government that allows the few in power to line their pockets on the misfortune of others. Be well friend.
OP, to answer your question, yes. ;D
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I was more making the comparison between being a bankrupt nation, burdened by reperations, and rising from the ashes to enjoy success. It had nothing to do with race, Ben, just an observation of that Country in general. DR is in much better shape, and is on the same piece of earth. If there were other factors, please elaborate, as I enjoy learning about happenings of the past from other points of view. I may have just made a sweeping generalization by quoting your post, and it may have been the wrong one, but you seemed to be blaming their economic problems on issues they had with Colonial France. Don't get me wrong, I think it's sad that people are eating dirt, it breaks my heart, but you need to blame the corruption in government that allows the few in power to line their pockets on the misfortune of others. Be well friend.
OP, to answer your question, yes. ;D
I find the comparison to Germany highly irregular and strange. It really makes me want to know how one could arrive at this judgement because it's very hard to find a more different country...I guess it was a misunderstanding.
If you think its appropriate for large powerful nations to steal from tiny weak nations thats your prerogative too.
With respect to assigning blame to the corrupt government, I agree completely.
now here comes the hard part, you may want to sit down, have a coffee or a cupcake...
Noticing who exactly installed the corrupt government and who exactly supports it to this day :o
...but we have to suffer with the reality distortion force field effect which seems to be incurable. Good luck bro! :)
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New uniform proposed for The Washington Generals.
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Just read an article that Cape Town won an award by the Telegraph newspaper as the worlds best city and the response from some blacks is that it's the 'world's most racist' and an 'Apartheid city' ::)
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It's whites and everyone who is victimized by the chimps who should be protesting against the negroe society in america. They, themselves are the problem. They cost taxpayers and normal citizens massive amounts of money and make large parts of the US unsafe.
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Just read an article that Cape Town won an award by the Telegraph newspaper as the worlds best city and the response from some blacks is that it's the 'world's most racist' and an 'Apartheid city' ::)
Do you know anything about the facts?
fill us in
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White America, look what is happening to white Africans.
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Just read an article that Cape Town won an award by the Telegraph newspaper as the worlds best city and the response from some blacks is that it's the 'world's most racist' and an 'Apartheid city' ::)
maybe they speak from personal experience
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Just read an article that Cape Town won an award by the Telegraph newspaper as the worlds best city and the response from some blacks is that it's the 'world's most racist' and an 'Apartheid city' ::)
I thought it was a genocide on whites over there. How is it an apartheid city? They don't feel they've raped enough white children this year? Haven't raped and butchered enough pregnant women in the last 12 months? What is their dissatisfaction this Christmas?
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I thought it was a genocide on whites over there. How is it an apartheid city? They don't feel they've raped enough white children this year? Haven't raped and butchered enough pregnant women in the last 12 months? What is their dissatisfaction this Christmas?
Because Cape Town and the surrounding Province
and most of its cities are ruled by the opposition
party and not the black ANC .
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Good point...but remember, Japan and Germany didn't do it on their own...they had MASSIVE American financial help....Also in th case of Japan, America practiacally ran the country for a few years after WWII...so the U.S. was able to build up their institutions until they could function on their own..remember..black Americans and American Indians were prevented BY LAW from building up the same
Fair enough. But out of curiosity, do you think people of all races could all become as equally as successful as one another if they were given equal opportunities?
For instance, do you believe that the Aborigines in Australia, if provided with enough wealth and resources, would be capable of building a highly advanced civilization, akin to the Germans or Japanese?
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Fair enough. But out of curiosity, do you think people of all races could all become as equally as successful as one another if they were given equal opportunities?
For instance, do you believe that the Aborigines in Australia, if provided with enough wealth and resources, would be capable of building a highly advanced civilization, akin to the Germans or Japanese?
Would be difficult at this juncture....because they have so much catching up to do....but I believe given enough resources and the committment and will to make it happen, it could....but the problem is, its very difficult to make that type of change if the the population who is on top refuses to go along with it....or is sincere in their efforts to make that change happen....first off the dominant population has to admit there is a problem and must come to grips that THEY caused or instigated it.....it simply cannot be a coincidnece that EVERYWHERE Europeans have gone, genocide has occurred...South America with the Aztecs, Tainos, etc.....North America with the American Indians and Blacks.....Australia with the aborigines....Even the Nazis and what they did to the rest of Europe and the Jews....What I'd like to know is what is it about the European character that creates the mindset for these types of massacres and genocides to occur??
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Would be difficult at this juncture....because they have so much catching up to do....but I believe given enough resources and the committment and will to make it happen, it could....but the problem is, its very difficult to make that type of change if the the population who is on top refuses to go along with it....or is sincere in their efforts to make that change happen....first off the dominant population has to admit there is a problem and must come to grips that THEY caused or instigated it.....it simply cannot be a coincidnece that EVERYWHERE Europeans have gone, genocide has occurred...South America with the Aztecs, Tainos, etc.....North America with the American Indians and Blacks.....Australia with the aborigines....Even the Nazis and what they did to the rest of Europe and the Jews....What I'd like to know is what is it about the European character that creates the mindset for these types of massacres and genocides to occur??
You're hilarious, delusional and probably a liar. You do realize that much of Europe's social/scientific advances occurred long before they came into contact with Aborigine or African peoples.
Tell me about the advances the Aborigines were making before they met the white man? I'm REALLY interested!
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Oh and you are a massive racist. Blacks and Asians have been behind some of the greatest genocides on earth. You DO know this don't you...? It is a UNIVERSAL problem.
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Your African ancestors gladly handed over their brothers and sisters to Muslims and Europeans. Slavery was been an institution in Africa for millennium and continues today. Slavery was ended in African countries only because the colonial governments demanded it. In review, European whites are and continue to be the only group that ended slavery as an institution. Islam and African's haven't
He is amazing isn't he. The truth must drive him crazy?
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You're hilarious, delusional and probably a liar. You do realize that much of Europe's social/scientific advances occurred long before they came into contact with Aborigine or African peoples.
Tell me about the advances the Aborigines were making before they met the white man? I'm REALLY interested!
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Oh and you are a massive racist. Blacks and Asians have been behind some of the greatest genocides on earth. You DO know this don't you...? It is a UNIVERSAL problem.
HA!...sorry you're angry....you seem really defensive....and resorting to name-calling.....and YES, I agree with you that historically it has been a universal problem..I don't understand your point about Europe's social/scientific advances coming before contact with African or aboriginal peoples.....the point being made is that dominant peoples of all races have had a tendency to enter the homelands of others, destroy the native peoples and then blame said peoples years later for not being able to pull themselves up and become the equal of the their subjugators...My response to the gentleman's question was that these native peoples would not be able to rise above their circumastance without massive help from the dominant population...same would go for the Palestinians in terms of their relationship with the Jews....whats your opinion?
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He is amazing isn't he. The truth must drive him crazy?
why would it drive me crazy?....throughout history you can find any number of people who have betrayed their own people for money or power...why does it come as a surprise that black Africans did the same? I can admit as much.....but why can't the people of dominant culture in this thread do the same???
STRANGE......who are the ones in this thread who are REALLY defensive :-\
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My point is that you refer to "catching up" as if they have been set back by whites. But they were not held back by whites, they were centuries behind whites before they ever even encountered them...
HA!...sorry you're angry....you seem really defensive....and resorting to name-calling.....and YES, I agree with you that historically it has been a universal problem..I don't understand your point about Europe's social/scientific advances coming before contact with African or aboriginal peoples.....the point being made is that dominant peoples of all races have had a tendency to enter the honmeleands of others, destroy the native peoples and then blame said peoples years later for not being able to pull themselves up and become the equal of the their subjugators...My response to the gentleman's question was that these native peoples would not be able to rise above their circumastance without massive help from the dominant population...same would go for the Palestinians in terms of their relationship with the Jews....whats your opinion?
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My point is that you refer to "catching up" as if they have been set back by whites. But they were not held back by whites, they were centuries behind whites before they ever even encountered them...
andriesdaman you have to admit muscleman makes a very Relevant point.
They were already so far behind the Whites when their countries were invaded.
Who is to blame for that.
If whitey hadn't arrived yet.
Perhaps they were just not Genetically intelligent Enough.
Or Perhaps they Believed they were advanced enough.
No hate, there are many different variables in people & races
From skin colour to height to facial features & Intelligence Etc.
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My point is that you refer to "catching up" as if they have been set back by whites. But they were not held back by whites, they were centuries behind whites before they ever even encountered them...
okay....so you consider all of the Jim Crow laws which were put in place whereby blacks were not allowed to vote...not allowed to intermarry.....not allowed to own certain types of property in certain areas......not allowed to work at certain jobs....not allowed to hold office.....not allowed to sit in a restaurant.......not allowed to go to colege.....ALL SANCTIONED BY CUSTOM, LAW, AND AUTHORITY .....you consider that as just another day at the office huh???...In your mind those things did not hold blacks back huh???????????????????????????????
KNOW YOUR OWN HISTORY
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I think most differences today are more due to culture, mind-set and education.
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The Mongols are Asian and slaughtered Europeans plus had European slaves. The black death came from Europe; and The Mongols gave the black plague to the Europeans on purpose by throwing\shooting and catapulting dead plague bodies into cities.
Only a hand full of Europeans were even left after the plague... but some how the population bounced back.
Japan committed mass murder against Europeans on death marches and concentration camps. As well as millions of Chinese. The Chinese are still mad at Japan and their is anti Japanese sentiment among many Chinese.
Islamic people killed and enslaved Europeans... esp. the Slavic people. Ottoman empire for example. Correction: still kill and enslave today - (literally)!
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The Mongols are Asian and slaughtered Europeans plus had European slaves. The black death came from Europe; and The Mongols gave the black plague to the Europeans on purpose by throwing\shooting and catapulting dead plague bodies into cities.
Only a hand full of Europeans were even left after the plague... but some how the population bounced back.
Japan committed mass murder against Europeans on death marches and concentration camps. As well as millions of Chinese. The Chinese are still mad at Japan and their is anti Japanese sentiment among many Chinese.
Islamic people killed and enslaved Europeans... esp. the Slavic people. Ottoman empire for example. Correction: still kill and enslave today - (literally)!
Also add the genocide in South Africa. Europeans will be gone soon. Do the math.
I could talk about Asian and African genocide like Rwanda, pol-pot, cameria rouge ect... but that's an endless list. Anyway I am pretty sure sure China has one of the highest... as mao (if i'm not mistaken... killed 70 million) Over all... I say the Mongolians were the worst... since it's a miracle any Europeans survived at all after Mongolian slaughter, slavery, oppression and the black death brought from Asian and purposely given to
Europeans to commit genocide.
Also, 911 and all terrorist attacks are genocidal in nature; and they make no qualms about it.
Japan's goals in 1942 were genocidal in nature; and they considered Europeans inferior sub-humans to be exterminated and enslaved.
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okay....so you consider all of the Jim Crow laws which were put in place whereby blacks were not allowed to vote...not allowed to intermarry.....not allowed to own certain types of property in certain areas......not allowed to work at certain jobs....not allowed to hold office.....not allowed to sit in a restaurant.......not allowed to go to colege.....ALL SANCTIONED BY CUSTOM, LAW, AND AUTHORITY .....you consider that as just another day at the office huh???...In your mind those things did not hold blacks back huh???????????????????????????????
KNOW YOUR OWN HISTORY
Can you read? I was referring to the periods before the two races actually came into contact.
edit - I think you can read, but you are either disingenuous (you may need to google that) or in complete denial.
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Can you read? I was referring to the periods before the two races actually came into contact.
edit - I think you can read, but you are either disingenuous (you may need to google that) or in complete denial.
why don't we both just agree to disagree?..debating you is pointless....lets move on
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My point is that you refer to "catching up" as if they have been set back by whites. But they were not held back by whites, they were centuries behind whites before they ever even encountered them...
andriesdaman you have to admit muscleman makes a very Relevant point.
They were already so far behind the Whites when their countries were invaded.
Who is to blame for that.
If whitey hadn't arrived yet.
Perhaps they were just not Genetically intelligent Enough.
Or Perhaps they Believed they were advanced enough.
No hate, there are many different variables in people & races
From skin colour to height to facial features & Intelligence Etc.
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