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Once again, New York's so called 'finest' behaving like a group of immature 12 year old thugs.
The people of New York must feel so safe and proud knowing these childish, callow twits are responsible for law & order. ::)
GROW THE FUCK UP NYPD!
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Bratton: ‘Very inappropriate’ for cops to turn backs on de Blasio
WASHINGTON – New York Police Commissioner Bill Bratton said it was “very inappropriate” for police to turn their back on Mayor de Blasio as he eulogized a slain officer Saturday, but acknowledged the public rebuke is “reflective” of tensions between police and the mayor.
“That funeral was held to honor Officer (Rafael) Ramos,” Bratton said on CBS’ “Face the Nation.” “To bring politics or to bring issues into that event I think was very inappropriate and I do not support it.
“… At the same time it is reflective, unfortunately, of the feelings of some of our officers.”
The police union has bashed de Blasio for seeming to side with protesters over the police in the heated days since a grand jury voted to not indict an officer in the choke-hold death of Eric Garner on Staten Island.
De Blasio has caught flack for saying he instructed his son Dante to “take special care” during any encounter with police.
Bratton, however, defended de Blasio’s remarks Sunday as well as those fears expressed by Eric Garner’s widow who worries for her children’s safety from police.
“Their perception is the reality that we have to deal with,” Bratton said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”
“…There’s no denying that among the black community that there are those concerns and in policing sometimes it’s difficult to see those.”
http://nypost.com/2014/12/28/bratton-very-inappropriate-for-cops-to-turn-backs-on-de-blasio/
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The cops made a political statement, as is their right. "Mayor" deBlasio is a piece of cop hating, leftist garbage, who never should have been elected.
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The cops made a political statement, as is their right. "Mayor" deBlasio is a piece of cop hating, leftist garbage, who never should have been elected.
DeBlasio should fire the disobedient assholes. Pigs forget that he is their BOSS, not some random guy they choose to make a political statement about.
Show me any other job where a good portion of the workforce publicly badmouths the boss/CEO, and I'll show you a bunch of newly unemployed people that should have kept silent and did their job properly.
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The cops made a political statement, as is their right. "Mayor" deBlasio is a piece of cop hating, leftist garbage, who never should have been elected.
IMO, they should have held a separate event, and dissed that mayor by the thousands - totally due and acceptable.
BUT to stage it at a funeral? And to make their deaths about divisive NY politics, and not the memory of these 2 brave officers?
those westboro folks are viewed as classless for using funerals to protest. Why are we clapping for the NYPD when they do it? Just because we agree with their cause? Sorry, funerals should be off-limits. It's a hot enough issue where they will get plenty of attention, no matter where/when they deliver their protest. You don't have to do it while two dead officers are lying there. Not the place.
(*If anyone disagrees, just imagine Hilary/Obama holding an anti-gun rally at your funeral because you used your gun to fight off 5 bad guys, and the 5th guy got you before he bled out - your honorable memory stained by lib bullshit political opportunism... if it's not cool for that, it's not cool for NYPD*)
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I don't see what the big deal is.
2 of their co-workers were brutally murdered and you people are bitching about them turning their backs?
Give me a break.
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I don't see what the big deal is.
2 of their co-workers were brutally murdered and you people are bitching about them turning their backs?
Give me a break.
they're doing it at a funeral. while the mayor is speaking about the dead.
Imagine if some people turned their back on Rudy during his 911 speech, honoring those lost on that day? it'd be outrage.
Look, i'm all for them trashing the mayor, he seems like a lib douche who needs to be shit on. But at a funeral? Terrible, classless. Mayor speaks all the time, go turn your back at another speech where wife/kids aren't looking at their loved one in a casket. All those flashbulbs looking at the political end of it, not honoring the men that died.
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skippy bad mouthing cops again,who wpuld have thought ::)
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DeBlasio should fire the disobedient assholes. Pigs forget that he is their BOSS, not some random guy they choose to make a political statement about.
Show me any other job where a good portion of the workforce publicly badmouths the boss/CEO, and I'll show you a bunch of newly unemployed people that should have kept silent and did their job properly.
You mean as in all the overpaid, under worked, UAW members at GM, Ford and Chrysler?
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I told you people no?
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"Behaving like children"? The fuck is the matter you?? Like Deblasio shouldnt even be in public office the race baiting bastard.
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they're doing it at a funeral. while the mayor is speaking about the dead.
Imagine if some people turned their back on Rudy during his 911 speech, honoring those lost on that day? it'd be outrage.
Look, i'm all for them trashing the mayor, he seems like a lib douche who needs to be shit on. But at a funeral? Terrible, classless. Mayor speaks all the time, go turn your back at another speech where wife/kids aren't looking at their loved one in a casket. All those flashbulbs looking at the political end of it, not honoring the men that died.
The "mayor" helped get them killed. Hope that helped.
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The "mayor" helped get them killed. Hope that helped.
Don't forget the cop who choked Eric Garner to death, the other cowards who stood by and watched it happen (or were most likely calling up crying to the union rep), and the DA who did not hold the pig accountable....
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Don't forget the cop who choked Eric Garner to death, the other cowards who stood by and watched it happen (or were most likely calling up crying to the union rep), and the DA who did not hold the pig accountable....
That cop should have been indicted. But it seems that most of the left just want to make blanket statements about all cops being bad.
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The "mayor" helped get them killed. Hope that helped.
I am 100% in support of the police for their protest.
however, if you're okay with them doing it at the funeral, because you agree with their message, then you have to support when the left does it too. You have to support obama and Hilary pulling stunts at funerals of gun violence. You have to support it when you disagree with their cause.
IMO, this shit doesn't belong at funerals. even if you agree with their cause.
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DiBlasio basically got elected on a racist platform. Respect is a two way street and quiet frankly im tired of this nonsense about having to respect politicians - whoever it is. Obama bush diblasio whoever - fuck em all.
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Lincoln once spoke of govt. of the people, by the people, and for the people.... what happened- ? ???
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I don't see what the big deal is.
2 of their co-workers were brutally murdered and you people are bitching about them turning their backs?
Give me a break.
They can do their political pandering and crying when not in uniform. When in uniform, they represent the executive and they ought to be fired.
Turning your back on your goddam boss.
Give me a break.
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skippy bad mouthing cops again,who wpuld have thought ::)
Ah yes, the board pussy - and Obama's personal c@cksucker - jumps in with yet another stupid comment, completely devoid of any substance about the topic at hand.
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They can do their political pandering and crying when not in uniform. When in uniform, they represent the executive and they ought to be fired.
Turning your back on your goddam boss.
Give me a break.
Fuck it.
Fire them all I guess.
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"Behaving like children"? The fuck is the matter you?? Like Deblasio shouldnt even be in public office the race baiting bastard.
Deblasio was elected, for better or worse, and these cops work for him.
I'll ask you the same thing I've asked the others, and they've yet to respond.
Would it be appropriate for our military to turn their backs on Obama over his Gitmo policies? He's released creeps who have gone right back to the battlefield to kill our soldiers.
Of course it would not be appropriate....unless your a New York city cop with the maturity level of a child. Then apparently it's all good. ::)
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Deblasio was elected, for better or worse, and these cops work for him.
I'll ask you the same thing I've asked the others, and they've yet to respond.
Would it be appropriate for our military to turn their backs on Obama over his Gitmo policies? He's released creeps who have gone right back to the battlefield to kill our soldiers.
Of course it would not be appropriate....unless your a New York city cop with the maturity level of a child. Then apparently it's all good. ::)
Yes it would be appropriate for solders to turn their backs on Obama, if they're not on duty, and just in the audience of one of his speeches. Solders have civil rights too, as do cops.
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Skip8282 here would fire half the police department.
Yeah that'd be a great move.
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Don't forget the cop who choked Eric Garner to death, the other cowards who stood by and watched it happen (or were most likely calling up crying to the union rep), and the DA who did not hold the pig accountable....
Eric Garner wasn't choked to death. He wasn't in a choke hold, as he was talking, and you can't talk when you are actually being choked. Garner died later in the hospital of a heart attack, because he was a stupid, big, fat slob, who never should have resisted arrest. He's dead because he was stupid. Accept reality.
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Ah yes, the board pussy - and Obama's personal c@cksucker - jumps in with yet another stupid comment, completely devoid of any substance about the topic at hand.
lol skippy the cop hater,just look at all your post on cops, 95% is hating on cops,just the facts skippy,just the facts
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lol skippy the cop hater,just look at all your post on cops, 95% is hating on cops,just the facts skippy,just the facts
As opposed to your 100% pro-cop, cause as we all know, they never do anything wrong. Just the facts. ::)
I see your still too much of a pussy to answer the question I've posed.
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Skip8282 here would fire half the police department.
Yeah that'd be a great move.
Obviously it would need to be controlled, but yeah, I'd go Reagan on their asses. 8)
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poor skippy hates cops and can't get why everybody doesnt agree with him.like i said before most of the ones that have problems with cops are criminals ,thugs and losers
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poor skippy hates cops and can't get why everybody doesnt agree with him.like i said before most of the ones that have problems with cops are criminals ,thugs and losers
I see your still too much of a pussy to answer the question I've posed.
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what's your question ,are the cops behaving like children. Nooo. now which one are you criminal, thug or loser
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;)
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I'm sorry that the only thing I can do is call you names. Unfortunately, I'm too much of a pussy to provide a logical, reasonable, rational response to your question.
No problem, I understand.
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;)
C'mon...you've got to know I don't go that far. He can strike a balance between the two.
Of course, this still has nothing to do with cops in uniform behaving like a bunch of children.
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I can't help myself I hate cops
not calling names just stating the facts 95% of your post are cop hating,95% is being generous it probably higher.so which one are you criminal, thug or loser
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Definitely disrespectful, but I don't blame them. In fact, I might have participated with them if I was there. de Blasio earned this. He is partly to blame for creating a climate of hate and intolerance for law enforcement. He ran for office on an anti-cop platform, blamed the Garner death on "centuries of racism," and told the world that he teaches his son to be afraid of cops. He shouldn't be surprised when his actions, combined with the protestors and race agitators, creates an environment that helps motivate someone to commit an act of violence.
IMO, this is a form of peaceful protest.
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Definitely disrespectful, but I don't blame them. In fact, I might have participated with them if I was there. de Blasio earned this. He is partly to blame for creating a climate of hate and intolerance for law enforcement. He ran for office on an anti-cop platform, blamed the Garner death on "centuries of racism," and told the world that he teaches his son to be afraid of cops. He shouldn't be surprised when his actions, combined with the protestors and race agitators, creates an environment that helps motivate someone to commit an act of violence.
IMO, this is a form of peaceful protest.
They do such an effective job of it themselves, though. That's the problem. No one else could even begin to approach the point of hurting their reputation as much as they've hurt it themselves. It would be completely impossible.
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Cops did themselves in, and now they're looking for someone else to blame.
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Cops did themselves in, and now they're looking for someone else to blame.
yeah, they don't even bother explaining the fckups they commit... it's just "oh, you dont have our back!"
Imagine if teachers or firefighters kept beating, framing, and occasionally killing people, and just kept neglecting the paperwork where they take any guilt lol. We woudln't hear "but but you don't support the teachers!" if the teachers were fcking arresting people for hitting police cars, when video shows the cops actually hit him while he sat passenger in the car.
Yes, good cops do a good job. But if a mayor wants to tell his kid to be careful around cops, because some of them are lying fckups, I think the only offended people are butthurt bitches to begin with.
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Hahahhahahah millions of fergusons nationwide riot, loot, burn, shut down highways, block malls, and shooting at cops, and not a peep.
But a few cops turn their backs to a anti-cop politician, AND OMG THEY ARE ACTING CHILDISH!!! ::)
The hypocrisy of the lefties knows no bounds.
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yeah, they don't even bother explaining the fckups they commit... it's just "oh, you dont have our back!"
Imagine if teachers or firefighters kept beating, framing, and occasionally killing people, and just kept neglecting the paperwork where they take any guilt lol. We woudln't hear "but but you don't support the teachers!" if the teachers were fcking arresting people for hitting police cars, when video shows the cops actually hit him while he sat passenger in the car.
Yes, good cops do a good job. But if a mayor wants to tell his kid to be careful around cops, because some of them are lying fckups, I think the only offended people are butthurt bitches to begin with.
I was just reading up on some of the police shit that's happened in LA over the last few years, and it would otherwise be unbelievable to anyone with a shred of faith in collective sanity.
Cannot believe your eyes, type things. One event after the next, and it's only ONE city.
Citizens everywhere know it and they internalize it. Not good for society.
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Hahahhahahah millions of fergusons nationwide riot, loot, burn, shut down highways, block malls, and shooting at cops, and not a peep.
But a few cops turn their backs to a anti-cop politician, AND OMG THEY ARE ACTING CHILDISH!!! ::)
The hypocrisy of the lefties knows no bounds.
If you're waiting to get bad citizens in order before you focus on bad cops, you are doing it backwards and you will die waiting. Hope that helps.
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They do such an effective job of it themselves, though. That's the problem. No one else could even begin to approach the point of hurting their reputation as much as they've hurt it themselves. It would be completely impossible.
I disagree. I don't live in NY, but I heard cops helped bring the crime rate down tremendously in NYC. They should be commended for that. The fact a comparative handful of cops are bad doesn't change anything. I think we do a pretty good job nationwide of punishing cops when they become criminals.
What those NYC cops don't deserve is to be demonized the way de Blasio has done.
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COPS bad CRIMINALS good
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I disagree. I don't live in NY, but I heard cops helped bring the crime rate down tremendously in NYC. They should be commended for that. The fact a comparative handful of cops are bad doesn't change anything. I think we do a pretty good job nationwide of punishing cops when they become criminals.
It "doesn't change anything"? How do you figure?
What those NYC cops don't deserve is to be demonized the way de Blasio has done.
Have to admit I haven't followed this particular situation closely. Exactly what did he do?
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It "doesn't change anything"? How do you figure?
Have to admit I haven't followed this particular situation closely. Exactly what did he do?
Because the number bad apples are small and do not overshadow all the good law enforcement does, including helping bring down the crime rate in NYC. What's ironic is you anti-law enforcement people will be the first ones calling 911 when you have a problem.
Exactly what I said earlier: ran on an anti-cop platform, held a press conference and blamed the Garner death on centuries of racism, and told the world that he has to teach his son to be afraid of the cops.
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Because the number bad apples are small and do not overshadow all the good law enforcement does, including helping bring down the crime rate in NYC. What's ironic is you anti-law enforcement people will be the first ones calling 911 when you have a problem.
It only undermines it, would you say?
Exactly what I said earlier: ran on an anti-cop platform, held a press conference and blamed the Garner death on centuries of racism, and told the world that he has to teach his son to be afraid of the cops.
I don't recall seeing any damning quotes, so that's why I ask. Would you say there are any quotes worth looking for?
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It only undermines it, would you say?
I don't recall seeing any damning quotes, so that's why I ask. Would you say there are any quotes worth looking for?
Depends. If you're looking for an excuse to dump on law enforcement, then yes a few bad apples spoil the bunch. But if you understand that there are bad apples in every profession and that humans are imperfect and always make mistakes (or sometimes are just rotten), then no it does not.
I don't know what you consider "damning quotes," so you'll have to check that out for yourself.
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Depends. If you're looking for an excuse to dump on law enforcement, then yes a few bad apples spoil the bunch. But if you understand that there are bad apples in every profession and that humans are imperfect and always make mistakes (or sometimes are just rotten), then no it does not.
I don't know what you consider "damning quotes," so you'll have to check that out for yourself.
Did you consider anything he said to be damning by your own standard?
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They do such an effective job of it themselves, though. That's the problem. No one else could even begin to approach the point of hurting their reputation as much as they've hurt it themselves. It would be completely impossible.
I blame the smartphone industry for putting video cameras in every phone.
Let's also not forget the contribution of youtube, the internet in general and viewers' lying eyes.
If a cop suffocates a citizen in a forest without any witnesses, who can really say if the citizen was able to breathe or not?
Seriously, though, I think it's reasonable for cops and cop-sympathizers to be concerned that folks who are speaking out (including the mayor) are causing the mainstream public to feel that the police abuse issue is more widespread than it really is.
However, if police abuse really is a rare thing, then I don't see why it's taboo for cops to come down like a ton of bricks on the "bad" cops without whom there wouldn't be the kind of situation we have today.
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I blame the smartphone industry for putting video cameras in every phone.
Let's also not forget the contribution of youtube, the internet in general and viewers' lying eyes.
If a cop suffocates a citizen in a forest without any witnesses, who can really say if the citizen was able to breathe or not?
Seriously, though, I think it's reasonable for cops and cop-sympathizers to be concerned that folks who are speaking out (including the mayor) are causing the mainstream public to feel that the police abuse issue is more widespread than it really is.
However, if police abuse really is a rare thing, then I don't see why it's taboo for cops to come down like a ton of bricks on the "bad" cops without whom there wouldn't be the kind of situation we have today.
Come on, Erich. You know better. Garner wasn't suffocated.
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Come on, Erich. You know better. Garner wasn't suffocated.
I think you're right that "suffocate" isn't exactly right...but I had grammar issues when trying to write that sentence using some form of the word "dog-pile".
FWIW, I read a post from Coach earlier where he said that he thought that the cop that jumped on Garner should have been indicted. I was shocked...
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I disagree. I don't live in NY, but I heard cops helped bring the crime rate down tremendously in NYC.
WTF? Cops suddenly started becoming more effective?
LOL "Cops brought down the crime rate which was achieved with these exact same cops at the wheel"? LMAO
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Hahahhahahah millions of fergusons nationwide riot, loot, burn, shut down highways, block malls, and shooting at cops, and not a peep.
But a few cops turn their backs to a anti-cop politician, AND OMG THEY ARE ACTING CHILDISH!!! ::)
The hypocrisy of the lefties knows no bounds.
lol...I think that might be the first time here I've ever been called a lefty. Now that's some funny shit.
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lol...I think that might be the first time here I've ever been called a lefty. Now that's some funny shit.
you are a republican that has shown you believe police that don't follow procedure shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.
These days, that is rare. They're so pro-law enforcement that they don't give a shit if the cops themselves follow the rules lol. Props to you for the stance you have.
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Because the number bad apples are small and do not overshadow all the good law enforcement does, including helping bring down the crime rate in NYC. What's ironic is you anti-law enforcement people will be the first ones calling 911 when you have a problem.
Exactly what I said earlier: ran on an anti-cop platform, held a press conference and blamed the Garner death on centuries of racism, and told the world that he has to teach his son to be afraid of the cops.
Because that's not what is seen. In fact, I would argue there exists a clear overall trend of law enforcement being abusive. Hell, I'm arguing with a cop in another thread who feels that cops should be allowed to unlawfully arrest people and they shouldn't have a right to resist.
No, many see this over-militarization trend, it's not just a few bad apples. Cops getting MRAPs, using SWAT teams over relatively minor infractions, disproportionately going after minorities....the list be long and the blue wall be strong.
Now, I think it's fair to say that it's still the minority of cases, but the trend, IMO is clearly moving it to the majority.
And yes, a handful of bad apples really causes a problem for ALL public employees. You're crying in another thread about Obama golfing through a wedding. That was a bad judgment by a few bad employees, namely those responsible for telling them to move for the Prez, rather telling the Prez there was a wedding going on.
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they shouldn't have a right to resist.
seriously skip, do you think garner was right in resisting arrest?
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seriously skip, do you think garner was right in resisting arrest?
Absolutely not.
What I've tried to convey to you (apparently unsuccessfully) is that I don't think the force used to subdue him was commesurate with his resistance.
I think the trend is that cops want to argue that even the slightest amount of resistance justifies any degree of force and that they should dictate to the public what force is justified.
I think the public should always dictate the amount of force cops can use against us.
But, there are plenty who see it the cops way, so as I noted in the past, I don't think this will ever be something that can agreed upon. Just have to lobby our legislators who share our beliefs (on either side).
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Absolutely not.
What I've tried to convey to you (apparently unsuccessfully) is that I don't think the force used to subdue him was commesurate with his resistance.
I think the trend is that cops want to argue that even the slightest amount of resistance justifies any degree of force and that they should dictate to the public what force is justified.
I think the public should always dictate the amount of force cops can use against us.
But, there are plenty who see it the cops way, so as I noted in the past, I don't think this will ever be something that can agreed upon. Just have to lobby our legislators who share our beliefs (on either side).
I think there should be a lot of common ground in that arena. I agree their actions were aggressive and the situation could have been handled better but I dont think it warrants criminal charges.
Both the cops and the public should have a say in it. The public will lean their way leaving the cops open to harm and injury and the cops their way leaving the public open to the same.
The public shouldnt have sole discretion, if they did you would have cops trying to tase a guy pointing a gun at them or trying to shoot a charging suspect in the leg ::)
both suggestions to how cops could have handled recent events....
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Check out the lovely NYPD insult/curse/ then throw this man to the ground. For legally dancing.
Make it illegal, or charge him with a crime if you want to say he impeded your chillin on the corner. but that's straight assault at the end of the tape, hurling him to the ground like that.
inexcusable. This cop should be fired. but he's at work today - and people wonder why the disgust for NYPD is so high - why didn't the other 4 cops standing there file a report saying they saw their buddy assault a civilian who hadn't broken a law?
WHY?
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Check out the lovely NYPD insult/curse/ then throw this man to the ground. For legally dancing.
Make it illegal, or charge him with a crime if you want to say he impeded your chillin on the corner. but that's straight assault at the end of the tape, hurling him to the ground like that.
inexcusable. This cop should be fired. but he's at work today - and people wonder why the disgust for NYPD is so high - why didn't the other 4 cops standing there file a report saying they saw their buddy assault a civilian who hadn't broken a law?
WHY?
It's Deblasio's fault. ::)
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Check out the lovely NYPD insult/curse/ then throw this man to the ground. For legally dancing.
Make it illegal, or charge him with a crime if you want to say he impeded your chillin on the corner. but that's straight assault at the end of the tape, hurling him to the ground like that.
inexcusable. This cop should be fired. but he's at work today - and people wonder why the disgust for NYPD is so high - why didn't the other 4 cops standing there file a report saying they saw their buddy assault a civilian who hadn't broken a law?
WHY?
do you really think in light of all the shit that has happened in NY that sneaking up behind a cop and fucking about is a great idea?
The cops overreacted for sure but look at both sides of the equation you numb nut fuck.
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Did you consider anything he said to be damning by your own standard?
I don't use that phrase to describe much of anything.
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WTF? Cops suddenly started becoming more effective?
LOL "Cops brought down the crime rate which was achieved with these exact same cops at the wheel"? LMAO
Shut up troll.
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Because that's not what is seen. In fact, I would argue there exists a clear overall trend of law enforcement being abusive. Hell, I'm arguing with a cop in another thread who feels that cops should be allowed to unlawfully arrest people and they shouldn't have a right to resist.
No, many see this over-militarization trend, it's not just a few bad apples. Cops getting MRAPs, using SWAT teams over relatively minor infractions, disproportionately going after minorities....the list be long and the blue wall be strong.
Now, I think it's fair to say that it's still the minority of cases, but the trend, IMO is clearly moving it to the majority.
And yes, a handful of bad apples really causes a problem for ALL public employees. You're crying in another thread about Obama golfing through a wedding. That was a bad judgment by a few bad employees, namely those responsible for telling them to move for the Prez, rather telling the Prez there was a wedding going on.
Police presence, increased weaponry, etc. are a response to crime problems. You don't see those kinds of things in low crime neighborhoods. I have no problem with law enforcement taking steps to protect themselves. They're doing that so we law abiding citizens will be protected from the minority of people who break the law.
Yes, there are some who will indict an entire group based on the actions of a few, but that isn't reasonable.
I'm not crying about anything regarding Obama interfering with a couple's wedding so he could play a round of golf. I'm simply calling it exactly what it is: a dirtbag move by a selfish, incredibly poor leader. Not sure what that has to do with this subject?
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do you really think in light of all the shit that has happened in NY that sneaking up behind a cop and fucking about is a great idea?
The cops overreacted for sure but look at both sides of the equation you numb nut fuck.
"A good idea"? no.
Legal? Yes.
And "The cops overreacted"? WTF? The cop committed assault on a citizen that broke no law. That cop should be fired. If a teacher did this to a parent, that teacher is fired. If a fireman did this to a person, they're fired. If a chef does this to a customer, he's fired.
Yet there isn't outrage why this cop isn't fired? Yes, the political climate says if you try this, you'll be swarmed with cops, searched, and yes, they might say some angry things to you. All that happened.
BUT THE CLIMATE DOES NOT EXCUSE ASSAULT. Period.
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The cops overreacted for sure but look at both sides of the equation you numb nut fuck.
Cops are given a gun, taser, baton, and training.
Cops are given months of pre- training and years of on job training.
They're paid not to over-react and assault people that do annoying shit. Just as the cashier at Mcdonalds isn't allow to shove someone to concrete who annoys them, the cop can't do it either.
When Malvo was shooting people at Michael's craft stores, cashiers at Michaels were not allowed to commit assault on people.
There is no "both sides of the equation", so the dumb fuck in this situation ain't me, pal. There's one side - the freaking law. That's it. This cop broke it by shoving a civilian who had done no crime. Period.
The cop shoudl be in cuffs, and anyone who says it's okay to abandon the law when police are annoyed, you deserve bird shit on your car, brah.
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I blame the smartphone industry for putting video cameras in every phone.
Let's also not forget the contribution of youtube, the internet in general and viewers' lying eyes.
If a cop suffocates a citizen in a forest without any witnesses, who can really say if the citizen was able to breathe or not?
Seriously, though, I think it's reasonable for cops and cop-sympathizers to be concerned that folks who are speaking out (including the mayor) are causing the mainstream public to feel that the police abuse issue is more widespread than it really is.
However, if police abuse really is a rare thing, then I don't see why it's taboo for cops to come down like a ton of bricks on the "bad" cops without whom there wouldn't be the kind of situation we have today.
Good question.
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Good question.
same reason most people dont rat out co-workers in other fields of work...
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Cops are given a gun, taser, baton, and training.
Cops are given months of pre- training and years of on job training.
They're paid not to over-react and assault people that do annoying shit. Just as the cashier at Mcdonalds isn't allow to shove someone to concrete who annoys them, the cop can't do it either.
When Malvo was shooting people at Michael's craft stores, cashiers at Michaels were not allowed to commit assault on people.
There is no "both sides of the equation", so the dumb fuck in this situation ain't me, pal. There's one side - the freaking law. That's it. This cop broke it by shoving a civilian who had done no crime. Period.
The cop shoudl be in cuffs, and anyone who says it's okay to abandon the law when police are annoyed, you deserve bird shit on your car, brah.
LMFAO when did you learn your wife had been fucking a cop?
seriously assualt? fuck off moron
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I don't use that phrase to describe much of anything.
Something you'd want to say damn him! about. How's that?
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same reason most people dont rat out co-workers in other fields of work...
Please don't tell me you can't recognize the seriousness of this, regarding the cops.
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Please don't tell me you can't recognize the seriousness of this, regarding the cops.
oh no I agree with you and I do but you asked why and I gave you a very plausible explanition. Cops are still human no matter how much you feel they should never make mistakes.
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Cops are given a gun, taser, baton, and training.
Cops are given months of pre- training and years of on job training.
They're paid not to over-react and assault people that do annoying shit. Just as the cashier at Mcdonalds isn't allow to shove someone to concrete who annoys them, the cop can't do it either.
Exactly, if they want to be known as professionals, then they should start acting and behaving as professionals.
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Exactly, if they want to be known as professionals, then they should start acting and behaving as professionals.
do you think they should be charged with assault?
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Police presence, increased weaponry, etc. are a response to crime problems. You don't see those kinds of things in low crime neighborhoods. I have no problem with law enforcement taking steps to protect themselves. They're doing that so we law abiding citizens will be protected from the minority of people who break the law.
Yes, there are some who will indict an entire group based on the actions of a few, but that isn't reasonable.
I'm not crying about anything regarding Obama interfering with a couple's wedding so he could play a round of golf. I'm simply calling it exactly what it is: a dirtbag move by a selfish, incredibly poor leader. Not sure what that has to do with this subject?
lol...your hatred runs deep. And no, we don't see it as a response to an increase in crime. In fact, there's plenty out there showing MRAPs getting scooped up by tiny little PDs. It's, to me at least, a clear trend. And, an unfortunate one.
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oh no I agree with you and I do but you asked why and I gave you a very plausible explanition. Cops are still human no matter how much you feel they should never make mistakes.
So when you see an outrageous story involving a crooked cop, and you notice that he's been a cop for many years, that is the reason.
You've described the perfect formula for a culture of corruption: exactly as it exists, right now. That's what it is.
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do you think they should be charged with assault?
In this case, I probably would not.
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LMFAO when did you learn your wife had been fucking a cop?
seriously assualt? fuck off moron
I guess it would actually be BATTERY. He shoved the man so hard he flew a few feet and landed flat on concrete.
He launched his ass. Yes, that's a crime. If I walk up to a man on the street and launch him like that, my ass is going to jail.
Tony, suddenly you believe police are above battery laws. I get it. Just admit you accept a police state and suspend your right. Be that kind of sheep. I'll pass.
That man was assaulted, battered, whatever you want to call it. Shoved to the ground by a cop that just cussed him out. I never would have thought you, tony, would be such a submissive to such use of unprovoked force. But here we are.
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Something you'd want to say damn him! about. How's that?
I don't really talk like that, but if you're asking me about inappropriate things he said, I already said what those things were.
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In this case, I probably would not.
Why "IN THIS CASE"?
Maybe if it was an IMMEDIATE reponse to the close proximity, I could see your point - I was tossing him to create space, I feared for cop's safety, etc.
but this was AFTER they searched him, cussed him out, he was explaining and apologizing, and he was up against the cop car, ,completely not resisting, completely obeying the cops.
He was shoved to the ground as punishment, not as part of police mgmt. He was issued a "parting shot".
I am literally shocked that a conservative like yourself is okay with cops shoving people hard to concrete as parting shots. Shocked, really. You yell about obama stealing our rights, but you're okay when cops do it? Fuck, man.
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I guess it would actually be BATTERY. He shoved the man so hard he flew a few feet and landed flat on concrete.
He launched his ass. Yes, that's a crime. If I walk up to a man on the street and launch him like that, my ass is going to jail.
Tony, suddenly you believe police are above battery laws. I get it. Just admit you accept a police state and suspend your right. Be that kind of sheep. I'll pass.
That man was assaulted, battered, whatever you want to call it. Shoved to the ground by a cop that just cussed him out. I never would have thought you, tony, would be such a submissive to such use of unprovoked force. But here we are.
We would need more info, but this seems like the cops were engaged in some type of duty and he was clowning in front of them. Maybe a distraction for something else. I'm not big on them pushing him off, but we really need to know more.
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Why "IN THIS CASE"?
Maybe if it was an IMMEDIATE reponse to the close proximity, I could see your point - I was tossing him to create space, I feared for cop's safety, etc.
but this was AFTER they searched him, cussed him out, he was explaining and apologizing, and he was up against the cop car, ,completely not resisting, completely obeying the cops.
He was shoved to the ground as punishment, not as part of police mgmt. He was issued a "parting shot".
I am literally shocked that a conservative like yourself is okay with cops shoving people hard to concrete as parting shots. Shocked, really. You yell about obama stealing our rights, but you're okay when cops do it? Fuck, man.
No, I'm not big on it, but we need to know more to justify a battery charge.
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We would need more info, but this seems like the cops were engaged in some type of duty and he was clowning in front of them. Maybe a distraction for something else. I'm not big on them pushing him off, but we really need to know more.
ONCE they established he was just doing the ellen dance, they cursed at him and were letting him go.
They knew he wasn't a distraction. They frisked him and turned him to car. He was apologizing and turning all bitch.
It was over. They kept talking shit, he just wanted to leave. The last cop gave him a hard shove as he left, he went flying.
I don't know what else we "need to know". The man wasn't a threat, they were releasing him. I dont see how you can argue the shove was anything but punitive. And legally, a cop CANNOT shove/assault/batter a person for punishment. Arrest him if he breaks the law, he'll get jail time. They couldn't do that, he broke no actual law.
The shove was punitive. There is no other explanation.
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lol...your hatred runs deep. And no, we don't see it as a response to an increase in crime. In fact, there's plenty out there showing MRAPs getting scooped up by tiny little PDs. It's, to me at least, a clear trend. And, an unfortunate one.
What hatred? If you mean Obama, I don't hate him. I just think he's a dishonest, lousy leader. And I've posted a lot of facts to support my opinion. I would not call that hatred, which implies someone just spouting off irrational things about someone.
We don't see increased police presence in response to crime? You cannot believe that.
Regarding small police forces buying equipment, are you saying small police forces in low crime areas are buying militarized equipment?
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ONCE they established he was just doing the ellen dance, they cursed at him and were letting him go.
They knew he wasn't a distraction. They frisked him and turned him to car. He was apologizing and turning all bitch.
It was over. They kept talking shit, he just wanted to leave. The last cop gave him a hard shove as he left, he went flying.
I don't know what else we "need to know". The man wasn't a threat, they were releasing him. I dont see how you can argue the shove was anything but punitive. And legally, a cop CANNOT shove/assault/batter a person for punishment. Arrest him if he breaks the law, he'll get jail time. They couldn't do that, he broke no actual law.
The shove was punitive. There is no other explanation.
If what you're saying is true, then I suppose a battery charge would be appropriate. I couldn't hear what was said though.
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What hatred? If you mean Obama, I don't hate him. I just think he's a dishonest, lousy leader. And I've posted a lot of facts to support my opinion. I would not call that hatred, which implies someone just spouting off irrational things about someone.
We don't see increased police presence in response to crime? You cannot believe that.
Regarding small police forces buying equipment, are you saying small police forces in low crime areas are buying militarized equipment?
Yes.
Police in Watertown, Connecticut, (population 22,514) recently acquired a mine-resistant, ambush-protected (MRAP) vehicle (sticker price: $733,000), designed to protect soldiers from roadside bombs, for $2,800. There has never been a landmine reported in Watertown, Connecticut.
Police in small towns in Michigan and Indiana have used the 1033 Program to acquire “MRAP armored troop carriers, night-vision rifle scopes, camouflage fatigues, Humvees and dozens of M16 automatic rifles,” the South Bend Tribune reported.
And police in Bloomington, Georgia, (population: 2,713) acquired four grenade launchers through the program, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.
http://www.newsweek.com/how-americas-police-became-army-1033-program-264537
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If what you're saying is true, then I suppose a battery charge would be appropriate. I couldn't hear what was said though.
Watch at :55
Two of them do shove him to the ground along with "Get the fck out of here..."
Their two arms clearly extend as he is propelled. His center of mass is way ahead of his legs, upper body shoved and legs trying to keep up - he can't make that jump on his own lol.
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Watch at :55
Two of them do shove him to the ground along with "Get the fck out of here..."
Their two arms clearly extend as he is propelled. His center of mass is way ahead of his legs, upper body shoved and legs trying to keep up - he can't make that jump on his own lol.
There's some kind of music or sound over it and I can't hear the words. Like I said, if it's as cut and dry as you say, then perhaps a battery charge is warranted.
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Check out the lovely NYPD insult/curse/ then throw this man to the ground. For legally dancing.
Make it illegal, or charge him with a crime if you want to say he impeded your chillin on the corner. but that's straight assault at the end of the tape, hurling him to the ground like that.
inexcusable. This cop should be fired. but he's at work today - and people wonder why the disgust for NYPD is so high - why didn't the other 4 cops standing there file a report saying they saw their buddy assault a civilian who hadn't broken a law?
WHY?
that asshole got what he deserved,running up behind people and doing that shit he should have got a punch in the head
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The more thugs/criminals/hippies/libtards get roughed up by the cops, the better as far as im concerned ;D
Stamp out the growing leftist element and the country will only improve
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The more thugs/criminals/hippies/libtards get roughed up by the cops, the better as far as im concerned ;D
Stamp out the growing leftist element and the country will only improve
Everyone is forgetting the most important lesson of all the recent hoopla; don't resist arrest, don't attack a cop and don't pull a gun on anyone-especially a cop and not expect consequences. Remember these simple steps and your survival rates goes up to nearly 100%
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Don't tell the cops to "leave me alone" when they approach you. Ask "what's the problem?" or "do you think I'm engaged in nefarious activities" or anything along those lines. Telling them "leave me alone" or "I warned you to leave me alone" is a sure ticket to trouble.
If you behave like a calm, rational, adult they have no reason to escalate. If they escalate any way...you have a complaint. If you act like a dick, you give them the excuse to escalate...and guess what? They will and they'll probably suffer zero consequences because you're acting like a dick.
And being able to say "I can't breathe" like a million times in a row is a pretty good sign that you can breathe. If you're a fat fuck with a history of serious health issues...you probably shouldn't mouth off to the cops because they aren't going to ask you for your medical history before they take your ass down.
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Don't tell the cops to "leave me alone" when they approach you. Ask "what's the problem?" or "do you think I'm engaged in nefarious activities" or anything along those lines. Telling them "leave me alone" or "I warned you to leave me alone" is a sure ticket to trouble.
If you behave like a calm, rational, adult they have no reason to escalate. If they escalate any way...you have a complaint. If you act like a dick, you give them the excuse to escalate...and guess what? They will and they'll probably suffer zero consequences because you're acting like a dick.
And being able to say "I can't breathe" like a million times in a row is a pretty good sign that you can breathe. If you're a fat fuck with a history of serious health issues...you probably shouldn't mouth off to the cops because they aren't going to ask you for your medical history before they take your ass down.
Seems pretty much like common sense to me.
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Don't tell the cops to "leave me alone" when they approach you. Ask "what's the problem?" or "do you think I'm engaged in nefarious activities" or anything along those lines. Telling them "leave me alone" or "I warned you to leave me alone" is a sure ticket to trouble.
If you behave like a calm, rational, adult they have no reason to escalate. If they escalate any way...you have a complaint. If you act like a dick, you give them the excuse to escalate...and guess what? They will and they'll probably suffer zero consequences because you're acting like a dick.
And being able to say "I can't breathe" like a million times in a row is a pretty good sign that you can breathe. If you're a fat fuck with a history of serious health issues...you probably shouldn't mouth off to the cops because they aren't going to ask you for your medical history before they take your ass down.
Very logical assessment. Garner would be alive if he had remained calm and compliant.
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that asshole got what he deserved,running up behind people and doing that shit he should have got a punch in the head
that's not legal. the police tend to try to stick the legal things... "the law". They're actually sworn to uphold it.
Legally, you CAN run up behind people and dance like a fool. I dislike it, and would support legislation banning it, but in 2014, the law says that's legal.
So you don't support a society of laws? Or people should be able to randomly break them as they wish?
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that's not legal. the police tend to try to stick the legal things... "the law". They're actually sworn to uphold it.
Legally, you CAN run up behind people and dance like a fool. I dislike it, and would support legislation banning it, but in 2014, the law says that's legal.
So you don't support a society of laws? Or people should be able to randomly break them as they wish?
sure you can run up on people within inches of them swinging your arms but when you get punched in the head don't go crying for sympathy
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that's not legal. the police tend to try to stick the legal things... "the law". They're actually sworn to uphold it.
Legally, you CAN run up behind people and dance like a fool. I dislike it, and would support legislation banning it, but in 2014, the law says that's legal.
So you don't support a society of laws? Or people should be able to randomly break them as they wish?
Legally you can, legally, a guy can turn and punch you out of reaction because someone spontaneously dancing behind you is not the norm. So while you can do it, there may be consequences for it. He put himself at risk in many of those scenes. As far as the cops reaction, they were pissed because someone stupidly acted a fool in what a reasonable person should know would be high alert status for the cops. It wasn't "funny" to them. I saw for sure one officer shove him on his way.. I doubt he meant to shove him to the ground.. the guy was too exhausted from his dancing to remain on his feet so he fell. Was the dancing behind the cops stupid? yes it was. Did the cops need to shove the guy? No they didnt. He should file a complaint on that officer as it was unneccessary. As much as I understand the cops being pissed at the guy for being stupid, they are still professionals and didn't de-escalate their demeanor once it was learned he was just an idiot.
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As much as I understand the cops being pissed at the guy for being stupid, they are still professionals and didn't de-escalate their demeanor once it was learned he was just an idiot.
agreed. IMO, if they had initially perceived him as a threat, it would have been fine to take him down and then sort it out. "Dude was creeping up on a cop". But once they had him for 30 seconds, searched him, he apologized up and down and exaplained the Ellen thing - they KNEW he wasn't a threat. The push wasn't a reaction, which might have been justified. It was a punishment.
If I shove someone "on their way", I can be charged with assault. Cops are held to a higher standard. Push was totally punitive.
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agreed. IMO, if they had initially perceived him as a threat, it would have been fine to take him down and then sort it out. "Dude was creeping up on a cop". But once they had him for 30 seconds, searched him, he apologized up and down and exaplained the Ellen thing - they KNEW he wasn't a threat. The push wasn't a reaction, which might have been justified. It was a punishment.
If I shove someone "on their way", I can be charged with assault. Cops are held to a higher standard. Push was totally punitive.
who are you trying to kid you would be the first one pn here complaining if they tackled that guy
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The Federalist, a conservative web-magazine, had an eye-opening take on the NYPD situation:
(BTW, not to spam the board but I'm making this same post on 1 other NYPD thread.)
The NYPD’s Revolt Is A Direct Threat To Democracy
By Ben Domenech
December 31, 2014
Since the moment when police officers turned their backs in protest on New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio, we’ve seen the type of escalating activity in the city which would be more recognizable as the preview to a messy Latin American coup d’etat. The latest is a form of purposeful sabotage on the part of the NYPD, which is now actively shirking its duty to enforce the law. According to the New York Post, traffic tickets and summonses have plummeted by 94 percent, and overall arrests are down 66 percent for the week compared to the same period last year. Here’s the data comparisons from this year to 2013:
- Citations for traffic violations fell by 94 percent, from 10,069 to 587, during that time frame. Summonses for low-level offenses like public drinking and urination also plunged 94 percent — from 4,831 to 300. Even parking violations are way down, dropping by 92 percent, from 14,699 to 1,241. Drug arrests by cops assigned to the NYPD’s Organized Crime Control Bureau — which are part of the overall number — dropped by 84 percent, from 382 to 63.
Considering how much New York, as with many of our other major cities, has leaned toward over-policing, this isn’t all a bad thing – I’m not going to get worked up about cops handing out fewer parking violations. But as a whole, this represents a completely irresponsible rejection of the duty to enforce the law. Yesterday, speaking to a graduating class of more than 800 new officers at Madison Square Garden, de Blasio was booed and heckled as he struggled to extend an oratorical olive branch. De Blasio told the gathering of new cops “you will confront all the problems that plague our society, problems that you didn’t create” – in response, a heckler jeered “You created them!” People in the audience applauded and cheered as a de Blasio tried to recover with even more voluminous praise for the force.
Supporters of the NYPD have pointed out throughout the back-turning that their officers feel upset at Mayor de Blasio and others, that they feel they are less safe because of the comments of politicians. This is one more example of one of the most irritating tendencies of unionized police forces today – a recurring demand that they receive the same attitude of respect for authority given to the United States military, without any of the responsibility and duty that comes with it.
More here:
http://thefederalist.com/2014/12/31/the-nypds-revolt-is-a-direct-threat-to-democracy/ (http://thefederalist.com/2014/12/31/the-nypds-revolt-is-a-direct-threat-to-democracy/)
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Yes.
Police in Watertown, Connecticut, (population 22,514) recently acquired a mine-resistant, ambush-protected (MRAP) vehicle (sticker price: $733,000), designed to protect soldiers from roadside bombs, for $2,800. There has never been a landmine reported in Watertown, Connecticut.
Police in small towns in Michigan and Indiana have used the 1033 Program to acquire “MRAP armored troop carriers, night-vision rifle scopes, camouflage fatigues, Humvees and dozens of M16 automatic rifles,” the South Bend Tribune reported.
And police in Bloomington, Georgia, (population: 2,713) acquired four grenade launchers through the program, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.
http://www.newsweek.com/how-americas-police-became-army-1033-program-264537
What's the problem with police departments getting what is essentially free equipment? Are you making a connection between these smaller departments getting equipment and actual police abuse in those communities? Certainly doesn't seem to be connected to any of the cases dominating the news.
And I don't have a problem with departments like the one in Missouri having enough firepower to deal with anarchists.
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Everyone is forgetting the most important lesson of all the recent hoopla; don't resist arrest, don't attack a cop and don't pull a gun on anyone-especially a cop and not expect consequences. Remember these simple steps and your survival rates goes up to nearly 100%
Exactly. Funny how asian/jewish/white/indian kids seem to ' miraculously'avoid getting killed by all these 'trigger happy' cops ::)
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Exactly. Funny how asian/jewish/white/indian kids seem to ' miraculously'avoid getting killed by all these 'trigger happy' cops ::)
Yeah, it is funny. Someone should devise a test. How about a black guy in an expensive suit goes up to the next cop they see and either pulls a gun or try to take the cops gun. Another black guy dressed like Traymichael Browtin goes up to a cop and has a friendly conversation over donuts. Lets see who ends up martinized.
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Exactly. Funny how asian/jewish/white/indian kids seem to ' miraculously'avoid getting killed by all these 'trigger happy' cops ::)
If the issue was only how to not die due to police abuse, this might be a good question because it does seem like most of the folks who are actually killed by cops under questionable circumstances are black.
Seems to me, though, that folks are protesting non-lethal abuse, too. And if you want to see non-black citizens losing teeth for no good reason, the internets is replete with video evidence of that.
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If the issue was only how to not die due to police abuse, this might be a good question because it does seem like most of the folks who are actually killed by cops under questionable circumstances are black.
Seems to me, though, that folks are protesting non-lethal abuse, too. And if you want to see non-black citizens losing teeth for no good reason, the internets is replete with video evidence of that.
What's your definition of questionable circumstances? How many of the total number of blacks killed by cops are under questionable circumstances? Look, I'm no fan of pigs but all of this hoopla seems to be much to do about nothing.
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What's your definition of questionable circumstances? How many of the total number of blacks killed by cops are under questionable circumstances? Look, I'm no fan of pigs but all of this hoopla seems to be much to do about nothing.
Just circumstances that aren't clear-cut. But honestly, most of the actual killings aren't really my concern (I'm not black, lol).
I'm concerned with cops who rough up folks for far too little of a reason. I've been known to shoot off my mouth when angry and so I could easily see myself catching a beating or worse like some of the folks in these so-called "contempt of cop" videos which seem to show them getting fucked up over little more than words.
And many of these folks suffering physical abuse at the hands of cops are regular white people, both men and women, who believe in the freedom of speech that the USA used to be known for.
If you're a cop and you're taking verbal abuse from someone or the person is questioning your authority after you've had a long day, I get that it's frustrating. But you know what? Being a police officer is a GOOD job. If you can't take it, quit and let someone else do it. There is no shortage of folks who'd like to be cops, as far as I know.
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NYPD Commish Bratton to Cops: Don’t Turn Backs on Mayor at Officer Liu’s Funeral
"When New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio spoke at murdered NYPD officer Rafael Ramos’ funeral last weekend, police turned their backs on him in protest. As the service for Ramos’ partner Wenjian Liu approaches on Sunday, NYPD Commissioner Bill Bratton has sent to letter to officer urging them not to do it again."
“A hero’s funeral is about grieving, not grievance,” Bratton wrote in the memo, obtained by the New York Post. After referencing the “act of disrespect” on the part of many officers who attended last week’s funeral, Bratton wrote, “I issue no mandates and I make no threats of discipline. But I remind you that when you don the uniform of this department, you are bound by the tradition, honor, and decency that go with it.”
Full letter at link..
http://www.mediaite.com/online/nypd-commish-bratton-to-cops-dont-turn-backs-on-mayor-at-officer-lius-funeral/
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Just circumstances that aren't clear-cut. But honestly, most of the actual killings aren't really my concern (I'm not black, lol).
I'm concerned with cops who rough up folks for far too little of a reason. I've been known to shoot off my mouth when angry and so I could easily see myself catching a beating or worse like some of the folks in these so-called "contempt of cop" videos which seem to show them getting fucked up over little more than words.
And many of these folks suffering physical abuse at the hands of cops are regular white people, both men and women, who believe in the freedom of speech that the USA used to be known for.
If you're a cop and you're taking verbal abuse from someone or the person is questioning your authority after you've had a long day, I get that it's frustrating. But you know what? Being a police officer is a GOOD job. If you can't take it, quit and let someone else do it. There is no shortage of folks who'd like to be cops, as far as I know.
Clear cut to whom? What does clear cut mean? That's the problem. For some people 911 and the Kennedy assassination aren't "clear cut" Personal judgments and opinions aren't evidence enough. How much of a problem is it and how do you define a problem? How do you prove a problem? From a statistical point of view there is no problem. The whole premise of the "black lives matter" movement is too ridiculous to be taken seriously.
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did they turn their back for the other funeral today, despite their commissioner asking them not to do it?
Why yes, they did.
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http://nypost.com/2015/01/04/cops-again-turn-their-backs-on-de-blasio-at-nypd-officers-funeral
Good - F DiBlasio - worthless communist scumbag. F him
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http://nypost.com/2015/01/04/cops-again-turn-their-backs-on-de-blasio-at-nypd-officers-funeral
Good - F DiBlasio - worthless communist scumbag. F him
great practice. Protesting at funerals. It was disgusting when Westboro did it, but since we agree with the cause here, suddenly it's okay to protest at funerals?
is that the case now, 333386? I know you're not one of those hypocrites who only supports an act when you agree with them politically, right? Will you be okay when other groups pick up this idea now too?
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great practice. Protesting at funerals. It was disgusting when Westboro did it, but since we agree with the cause here, suddenly it's okay to protest at funerals?
is that the case now, 333386? I know you're not one of those hypocrites who only supports an act when you agree with them politically, right? Will you be okay when other groups pick up this idea now too?
They are not holding up signs w inflammatory shit, not showing up to a funeral they are not connected to etc.
F diblasio and the communists who support him. I warned to idiots 2 years ago about this pos.
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They are not holding up signs w inflammatory shit, not showing up to a funeral they are not connected to etc.
F diblasio and the communists who support him. I warned to idiots 2 years ago about this pos.
I'm just saying - at some point, we WILL see obama's entire lib crew go to a funeral and "turn their backs" and suddenly disgrace the honor of the fallen person for their own political gain.
Look, I get it, why they did it the first time. They made their point, then made it again the next day at NYPD graduation. HOWEVER, in this case, the police commish said "we get it, you made your point, but please don't do this at the other funeral..." They did it again.
Will they do this at every NYPD funeral now? and when some anti-police group shows up and turns their back on the casket - and you're ready to punch every one of the disrespectful fckers.... will that be cool then?
I'm just saying it's a precedent they should NOT be creating. When 911 heroes die, and conspiracy theorists like Pete ccaroll are turning backs at funerals,will that be cool? When heads of state die, and members of opposing parties turn their backs? I remember what a mess it was when obama was taking selfies at a funeral - is it cool that these cops are taking away the attention from the fallen heroes?
just bad taste. protest the mayor all the time - just not at funerals. :(
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This pos who killed the two cops did so specifically in response to Brown and Gardner - both events egged on and pimped by communist scumbags Obama and DiBlasio for months on end.
Good for the NYPD - im glad they are sticking it to this communist alinsky Sandinista pos mayor we have. They are putting this asshole just where he belongs - safe streets and order or chaos and anarchy and a doomed mayorship.
I'm just saying - at some point, we WILL see obama's entire lib crew go to a funeral and "turn their backs" and suddenly disgrace the honor of the fallen person for their own political gain.
Look, I get it, why they did it the first time. They made their point, then made it again the next day at NYPD graduation. HOWEVER, in this case, the police commish said "we get it, you made your point, but please don't do this at the other funeral..." They did it again.
Will they do this at every NYPD funeral now? and when some anti-police group shows up and turns their back on the casket - and you're ready to punch every one of the disrespectful fckers.... will that be cool then?
I'm just saying it's a precedent they should NOT be creating. When 911 heroes die, and conspiracy theorists like Pete ccaroll are turning backs at funerals,will that be cool? When heads of state die, and members of opposing parties turn their backs? I remember what a mess it was when obama was taking selfies at a funeral - is it cool that these cops are taking away the attention from the fallen heroes?
just bad taste. protest the mayor all the time - just not at funerals. :(
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This pos who killed the two cops did so specifically in response to Brown and Gardner
You mean cases where police recording of events was either untruthful or woefully erroneous?
That makes me angry, and I'm not a criminal. Maybe we stop blaming politicians and start looking at what actually effects people to a level where they grow angry. I'm still fcking pissed that a cop threatened a fake ticket on me, 17 years ago... and I'd still call that cop a piece of shit to her face today. If I ever see her, yes, I'm calling her a bag of shit in front of everyone in that room, you fcking bet. Disgrace to her badge, yes. All beacuse of a threat of fake ticket.
Now, multiply that anger when someone gets charged with "resisting" or "he went for my gun" or bullshit like that. YES, 33, wait til it happens to you. The POWERLESS feeling you have, it's unforgettable.
So while the shooters are pieces of shit that deserve the chair... I think their anger is a result of decades of abuse by officers sworn to uphold the law. Not some silly speech.
people didn't start hating cops because of diblasio's speech lol, understand that haha.
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you need to get over yourself. These two cases are not ones you or the other lib fools on HP should fall on your swords over
You mean cases where police recording of events was either untruthful or woefully erroneous?
That makes me angry, and I'm not a criminal. Maybe we stop blaming politicians and start looking at what actually effects people to a level where they grow angry. I'm still fcking pissed that a cop threatened a fake ticket on me, 17 years ago... and I'd still call that cop a piece of shit to her face today. If I ever see her, yes, I'm calling her a bag of shit in front of everyone in that room, you fcking bet. Disgrace to her badge, yes. All beacuse of a threat of fake ticket.
Now, multiply that anger when someone gets charged with "resisting" or "he went for my gun" or bullshit like that. YES, 33, wait til it happens to you. The POWERLESS feeling you have, it's unforgettable.
So while the shooters are pieces of shit that deserve the chair... I think their anger is a result of decades of abuse by officers sworn to uphold the law. Not some silly speech.
people didn't start hating cops because of diblasio's speech lol, understand that haha.
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you need to get over yourself. These two cases are not ones you or the other lib fools on HP should fall on your swords over
Most people that hate cops today, they hated cops before some lib idiot gave a speech a few months ago.
I laugh when I see "mayor's fault people dislike cops". Um, those cops have been framing people, shoving ellen dancers, arresting people sleeping in cars for hit & run, shooting unarmed people 41 times, and lots of other shit like that, for decades.
yes, the mayor is a d-bag, we all agree there. He's just not the cause of this violence, until you show me a suicide note saying "i've always liked cops, but the speech that mayor gave about being careful about police, that turned me into a cop-killing machine". Cause it's a heck of an assumption to make, man.
I'm all for impeaching shitty mayors and executing the cop killers, and firehosing the protesters. But police need to take responsibility for false reports, and covering for bad cops.
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Most people that hate cops today, they hated cops before some lib idiot gave a speech a few months ago.
I laugh when I see "mayor's fault people dislike cops". Um, those cops have been framing people, shoving ellen dancers, arresting people sleeping in cars for hit & run, shooting unarmed people 41 times, and lots of other shit like that, for decades.
yes, the mayor is a d-bag, we all agree there. He's just not the cause of this violence, until you show me a suicide note saying "i've always liked cops, but the speech that mayor gave about being careful about police, that turned me into a cop-killing machine". Cause it's a heck of an assumption to make, man.
I'm all for impeaching shitty mayors and executing the cop killers, and firehosing the protesters. But police need to take responsibility for false reports, and covering for bad cops.
Browne was a ghetto thug and a pos - no sympathy at all
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http://nation.foxnews.com/2015/01/05/deblasio-scolds-nypd-being-disrespectful
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anyone that protests at a funeral is a fcking douchebag..
I dont care what a hero you are, how brave you are, or how noble the cause.
if you politicize the death of a hero policeman for your own political goals, you are a fucking douchebag and the sky should rain urine upon you. Douchebag all the way.
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anyone that protests at a funeral is a fcking douchebag..
I dont care what a hero you are, how brave you are, or how noble the cause.
if you politicize the death of a hero policeman for your own political goals, you are a fucking douchebag and the sky should rain urine upon you. Douchebag all the way.
seriously, you deserve bird shit on your head for 50 years. That's what kind of idiot goes to a funeral and acts like a fool in order to get media coverage. No matter what your party, your viewpoints, etc - the funeral is for the mourning and celebration, not some crybaby shitheads being disrespecful. Fuck everyone that turned their back, and fuck everyone that thinks it's okay to use a funeral for political protests. Every one of you deserves kitty litter in youor breakfast cereal.
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anyone that protests at a funeral is a fcking douchebag..
I dont care what a hero you are, how brave you are, or how noble the cause.
if you politicize the death of a hero policeman for your own political goals, you are a fucking douchebag and the sky should rain urine upon you. Douchebag all the way.
Boom.
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2 more cops shot in the Bronx tonight
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2 more cops shot in the Bronx tonight
you blame the mayor?
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you blame the mayor?
Yes as well as Sharpton, Obama and Holder. Two more cops shot, I'd bet you're happy about that. (Until you need to call one)
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Yes as well as Sharpton, Obama and Holder. Two more cops shot, I'd bet you're happy about that. (Until you need to call one)
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You insult me with "i bet you're happy". That's fcked up.
it was related to a robbery and was caught on video too, they're saying at the moment?
So seriously, "Two more cops shot, I'd bet you're happy about that." is seriously wrong thing to say. No sane person is happy about that.
I'm sickened by your post. Out of bounds, line crossed there.
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You insult me with "i bet you're happy". That's fcked up.
it was related to a robbery and was caught on video too, they're saying at the moment?
So seriously, "Two more cops shot, I'd bet you're happy about that." is seriously wrong thing to say. No sane person is happy about that.
I'm sickened by your post. Out of bounds, line crossed there.
Dude, you've been anti cop since ferguson in almost all instances. Why should this be any different?
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Dude, you've been anti cop since ferguson in almost all instances. Why should this be any different?
Dude, I'm anti-BAD cop.
I support 99.99% of cops - the good ones.
I feel that the .01% of cops that break laws, lie on reports, and let other cops do the same, should be fired and charged with the crime they've committed.
You don't have to suck off 100% of the cops - even the bad ones. It's okay to support MOST and admit the small percentage of bad ones can fck off in a jail cell for abusing their power.
And I said last time - you shoot a cop, you should get death penalty. If you assist in any way, you should get life without parole.
I can't believe you'd just make up "you're glad 2 cops were shot" about another fucking man. Line crossed.
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you blame the mayor?
Yes
The man was robbing a store and fired his gun at 2 police that tried to stop him.
I missed the mayor's speech where he said to rob places. Are we at the point where EVERY shooting is the mayor's fault now? Weak fcking logic there, coach. People shot at cops while committing crimes BEFORE this deblasio crap too. If dude left a note blaming protests, okay, blame the mayor.
But any time the cops face a shooting bad guy from now on - mayor's fault, huh?
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The man was robbing a store and fired his gun at 2 police that tried to stop him.
I missed the mayor's speech where he said to rob places. Are we at the point where EVERY shooting is the mayor's fault now? Weak fcking logic there, coach. People shot at cops while committing crimes BEFORE this deblasio crap too. If dude left a note blaming protests, okay, blame the mayor.
But any time the cops face a shooting bad guy from now on - mayor's fault, huh?
DiBlasio has told the criminal element in the City that they have free reign. I live here - you don't. I warned you and all the other fng retards about DiBlasio from Day 1 and look who was right?
He is a communist and handing the city right back to the ghetto filth that used to terrorize it.