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Albuquerque police charged in homeless killing
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Two police officers in Albuquerque, New Mexico, will face charges for killing a homeless camper, their lawyers say.
Former detective Keith Sandy and officer Dominique Perez will face a murder charge in the death of James Boyd, 38.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30783324
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Big tough guys those American police LOL
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No doubt some of theses Police Shooting Incidents are unavoidable & justified.
It does appear there is a lot that are not, Typically the unarmed victim shootings
Police worn cam corders should be mandatory.
Any switching off or not wearing should be treated as highly dubious.
This may help save innocent lives & Redeem innocent cops of wrong doing.
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No doubt some of theses Police Shooting Incidents are unavoidable & justified.
It does appear there is a lot that are not, Typically the unarmed victim shootings
Police worn cam corders should be mandatory.
Any switching off or not wearing should be treated as highly dubious.
This may help save innocent lives & Redeem innocent cops of wrong doing.
I believe this was supposed to happen with the NYPD, but they are pushing back. The only reason officers would push back against these cameras is because they want to continue doing illegal things without getting caught. There is no other reason for this. Cameras don't lie and if you have nothing to hide, what is the big deal with having a mounted camera on you? The difference is the cameras will show what actually happens, instead of the police officers version of events.
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I think its a very good thing that this goes to trial. Shooting someone should be a last resort option. IN this case, I don't feel it was even close to a last resort option. I don't want police hesitating to shoot in a real life and death situation because they fear public outcry, but I don't want police skipping ahead and shooting someone because they get impatient.
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I believe this was supposed to happen with the NYPD, but they are pushing back. The only reason officers would push back against these cameras is because they want to continue doing illegal things without getting caught. There is no other reason for this. Cameras don't lie and if you have nothing to hide, what is the big deal with having a mounted camera on you? The difference is the cameras will show what actually happens, instead of the police officers version of events.
The rhetoric for the massive increase in the police state since 9/11 has been "if you've got nothing to hide what's the problem?". Seems like that's fair for the police too. If it isn't, then the original justification was a lie and it was about consolidating power and undercutting the 'Bill of Rights'.
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Pigs always gotta pigs.
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This would never happen in Portugal.
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Pigs always gotta pigs.
^^^^^^^^ co-signed. :(
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The dirtbag bum pulled a knife...Would you take a chance on on this scumbag stabbing you, or your dog...Brave guys on the internet...
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The rhetoric for the massive increase in the police state since 9/11 has been "if you've got nothing to hide what's the problem?". Seems like that's fair for the police too. If it isn't, then the original justification was a lie and it was about consolidating power and undercutting the 'Bill of Rights'.
Exactly. Cops will pull you over and if you have nothing to hide, then all should go smoothly and you will be on your way without any incident.
Similarly, if cops are following protocol and shit goes down, the cameras will show exactly what happened. The cops will be justified in their actions and will be on their way.
As stated, the only reason why a cop would not want cameras is so they can give their own version of the events. I cannot think of any other reason to push back against a mounted camera. If anything, it will help the cops out if they need to shoot someone.
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The dirtbag bum pulled a knife...Would you take a chance on on this scumbag stabbing you, or your dog...Brave guys on the internet...
I`ve disarmed far more threatening adversaries.
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I'm usually the one all for the cops but this one is just sick. This is a bunch of thugs use to doing whatever they want and I hope they fry
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Pigs never see a day in jail
They stay rolling in shit on the streets
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No doubt some of theses Police Shooting Incidents are unavoidable & justified.
It does appear there is a lot that are not, Typically the unarmed victim shootings
Police worn cam corders should be mandatory.
Any switching off or not wearing should be treated as highly dubious.
This may help save innocent lives & Redeem innocent cops of wrong doing.
You are unreal.
There are a lot of reasons to not want to be recorded all of the time. Maybe he is having a smoke with his buddy, talking about the slut he banged from the bar last night? Maybe he doesnt want to be caught talking about how much he hates having to work overtime? How fat his supervisors ass is?
We need to understand that cops make on average like 50k a year. They do their best, mostly uneducated, blue collar types. Mensa members and oxford grads arent exactly lining up for 50k a year and a fucking camera on their chest, recording everytime they call someone an asshole while driving for cutting them off, talking about their personal lives, business etc. Cops are normal people for the most part. Oh brother.
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You are unreal.
There are a lot of reasons to not want to be recorded all of the time. Maybe he is having a smoke with his buddy, talking about the slut he banged from the bar last night? Maybe he doesnt want to be caught talking about how much he hates having to work overtime? How fat his supervisors ass is?
We need to understand that cops make on average like 50k a year. They do their best, mostly uneducated, blue collar types. Mensa members and oxford grads arent exactly lining up for 50k a year and a fucking camera on their chest, recording everytime they call someone an asshole while driving for cutting them off, talking about their personal lives, business etc. Cops are normal people for the most part. Oh brother.
Recording the entire shift is not the norm for those reasons you mentioned and data storage issues. Ironically, recently two of our cops "thought" they weren't recording when they actually were in between calls and thier conversation made the news. It was not flattering for us to say the least. As cops, I get what they were saying, as a citizen, it's concerning. Among other things, they were apparently commenting on the way a female was dressed who happened to walk into their view. Things like "Don't call us when you get raped we can't unrape you" were overheard. Made the cops seem less than sympathetic to women sexual assault victims.
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You are unreal.
There are a lot of reasons to not want to be recorded all of the time. Maybe he is having a smoke with his buddy, talking about the slut he banged from the bar last night? Maybe he doesnt want to be caught talking about how much he hates having to work overtime? How fat his supervisors ass is?
We need to understand that cops make on average like 50k a year. They do their best, mostly uneducated, blue collar types. Mensa members and oxford grads arent exactly lining up for 50k a year and a fucking camera on their chest, recording everytime they call someone an asshole while driving for cutting them off, talking about their personal lives, business etc. Cops are normal people for the most part. Oh brother.
Might seem far fetched but why can't they turn it in when called to a scene? Though I can understand this may not be the first thing on their mind. Nonetheless, something needs to be done. I personally don't think they want to wear a camera because they don't want to be held responsible for their abuse of power.
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This would never happen in Portugal.
Only bums, no police. :D
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You are unreal.
There are a lot of reasons to not want to be recorded all of the time. Maybe he is having a smoke with his buddy, talking about the slut he banged from the bar last night? Maybe he doesnt want to be caught talking about how much he hates having to work overtime? How fat his supervisors ass is?
We need to understand that cops make on average like 50k a year. They do their best, mostly uneducated, blue collar types. Mensa members and oxford grads arent exactly lining up for 50k a year and a fucking camera on their chest, recording everytime they call someone an asshole while driving for cutting them off, talking about their personal lives, business etc. Cops are normal people for the most part. Oh brother.
I think it's you & the cop on here who are Unreal.
Constant excuses for unwarranted deaths.
If wearing a camera is part of the job for yours & others safety
You either do the job or you don't.
Being a cop isn't the only job in the world.
Plenty of 24hr surveillance camera's out there & loads of intelligence agencies storing and collecting information
And there doesn't to seem to be a Problem with Data storage.. ::)
Or is just the cops have this Problem.
What a couple of police Apologists, Oh so Sorry The Cops Can Do No Wrong.
BOLLOCKS.
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I only have adult conversations with adults ^^
Back to the kiddy table for you.
Might seem far fetched but why can't they turn it in when called to a scene? Though I can understand this may not be the first thing on their mind. Nonetheless, something needs to be done. I personally don't think they want to wear a camera because they don't want to be held responsible for their abuse of power.
The ability to turn it on, on demand, is more reasonable; but citing their failure to begin recording as de facto dubious behavior is unreal. Especially in a case like this.
Yes his bodycam was on, I am leaning more towards the fact the initial contact was very calm and what happened almost completely unexpected. A routine call in regards to a domestic disturbance (husbands and wifes having a heated VERBAL ONLY debate often yields a police response), and look how it ended. Something a lot of cops (I would imagine) would take no special thought or consideration due to the common nature of the call. "Business as usual".
Another thing to note in aforementioned video is one of the reasons people get shot when they make moves suggestive of assaultive behavior and/or possession of a weapon. Alot of the time the suspect DOES have a weapon. Clearly.
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I only have adult conversations with adults ^^
Back to the kiddy table for you.
The ability to turn it on, on demand, is more reasonable; but citing their failure to begin recording as de facto dubious behavior is unreal. Especially in a case like this.
Yes his bodycam was on, I am leaning more towards the fact the initial contact was very calm and what happened almost completely unexpected. A routine call in regards to a domestic disturbance (husbands and wifes having a heated VERBAL ONLY debate often yields a police response), and look how it ended. Something a lot of cops (I would imagine) would take no special thought or consideration due to the common nature of the call. "Business as usual".
Another thing to note in aforementioned video is one of the reasons people get shot when they make moves suggestive of assaultive behavior and/or possession of a weapon. Alot of the time the suspect DOES have a weapon. Clearly.
Ha. Such a grown up reply.
Just Admit your were wrong.
And try to come up with a solution to the problem of unnecessary & unwarranted
Shootings By Cops.
Until then I hope you can keep away from writing more
BOLLOCKS on Here.
YET another Big Intellectual I am Right Internet Mastermind.. NOT ::)
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Blah blah blah
Ha. Such a grown up reply.
Just Admit your were wrong.
And try to come up with a solution to the problem of unnecessary & unwarranted
Shootings By Cops.
Until then I hope you can keep away from writing more
BOLLOCKS on Here.
YET another Big Intellectual I am Right Internet Mastermind.. NOT ::)
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I kinda feel for you.
You are frequently being shown up for your immature Postings.
Do you not get fed up with the constant ownings you get on here.
I take it you are Back on the Drink Excessively.
Oh and what was it you were convicted of you
Never replied to that question Either.
Let's just Agree to Disagree.
It is just a Internet forum.
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Only bums, no police. :D
We don't have many bums, we have people to whom live went sideways.
State and organizations help them and never ever police or our semi-militarized urban forces would kill someone for camping in the desert.
Even during fascism this kind of crime never happened, and fascism ended in 1974 over here.
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I`ve disarmed far more threatening adversaries.
This is precisely the point five guys showing up and pumping a tramp full of holes is excessive force.
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I kinda feel for you.
You are frequently being shown up for your immature Postings.
Do you not get fed up with the constant ownings you get on here.
I take it you are Back on the Drink Excessively.
Oh and what was it you were convicted of you
Never replied to that question Either.
Let's just Agree to Disagree.
It is just a Internet forum.
What have I been convicted of? Uh... running a red light, and following too closely when I was in high school. I've had no legal issues outside of traffic things.
And you still have yet to furnish a counter argument.
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This is precisely the point five guys showing up and pumping a tramp full of holes is excessive force.
Really? Someone says in a post on Getbig that they've disarmed far more dangerous adversaries and you take that as gospel and support of your position? That's funny
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Really? Someone says in a post on Getbig that they've disarmed far more dangerous adversaries and you take that as gospel and support of your position? That's funny
You honestly don't think they used excessive force? Plugging him full of holes was the best option, huh?
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You honestly don't think they used excessive force? Plugging him full of holes was the best option, huh?
Nope, I've already stated in this thread it's good it's going to trial.
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Nope, I've already stated in this thread it's good it's going to trial.
What's your point then essay?
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This is precisely the point five guys showing up and pumping a tramp full of holes is excessive force.
My point is, when someone on the internet says they've disarmed far more dangerous adversaries, or jumped more cars than Evel Knievel or benched more than the current record holder, you just can't simply use their statement to make your point... :)
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My point is, when someone on the internet says they've disarmed far more dangerous adversaries, or jumped more cars than Evel Knievel or benched more than the current record holder, you just can't simply use their statement to make your point... :)
You raise a good point amigo wise to take internet utterings with a pinch of salt.
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You raise a good point amigo wise to take internet utterings with a pinch of salt.
word..
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word..
This is the time where we both do the little finger flutter thing and slap hands in agreement.... :D
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http://www.koat.com/news/neverbeforeseen-video-of-james-boyd-shooting/34540978
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pretty worthless video..
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hey man never forget this is why America is the greatest country on earth,, liberty and justice FOR ALL.
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Those fuckers used him for target practice because he was on of the dregs of society and should all hang. :(
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Albuquerque police charged in homeless killing
What :o , your idol Putin is homeless :P
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The dirtbag bum pulled a knife...Would you take a chance on on this scumbag stabbing you, or your dog...Brave guys on the internet...
Haven't you seen any Steven Seagal films? Disarming a knife-wielding man is a piece of cake. You take a step towards him, he lunges awkwardly, you grab his wrist and twist it behind his back forcing him to drop the knife and then you torque the arm, dislocating his shoulder so he can't pick it up and try again. I've seen Seagal do this dozens of times and he is a fat slob. Just imagine what a getbigger could do with muscles and MMA technology.
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pretty worthless video..
I think I saw Bigfoot in it.... ;D.
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next there will be a story with the headline "Never seen before footage of the shooting" at it will be a picture of earth from outer space
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http://www.koat.com/news/james-boyd-case-homeowner-recalls-shooting/34572694
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I believe this was supposed to happen with the NYPD, but they are pushing back. The only reason officers would push back against these cameras is because they want to continue doing illegal things without getting caught. There is no other reason for this. Cameras don't lie and if you have nothing to hide, what is the big deal with having a mounted camera on you? The difference is the cameras will show what actually happens, instead of the police officers version of events.
I agree with this. The only issue I have is that the cameras should only be looked at in important cases such as use of force, including shootings and fatalities; it should not be used for when avg joe criminal complains that a cop was "rude" or used a curse word towards me.
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I agree with this. The only issue I have is that the cameras should only be looked at in important cases such as use of force, including shootings and fatalities; it should not be used for when avg joe criminal complains that a cop was "rude" or used a curse word towards me.
I disagree. We use camera footage all the time to investigate claims of rudeness. Otherwise it is the citizen vs the officer. In the majority of cases it wasn't the officer who was rude. But in a few cases there are instances when the officer was less than professional and needs counseling and further monitoring to insure citizens are treated respectfully.
I haven't ran into an officer yet that is anti camera.
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I believe this was supposed to happen with the NYPD, but they are pushing back. The only reason officers would push back against these cameras is because they want to continue doing illegal things without getting caught. There is no other reason for this. Cameras don't lie and if you have nothing to hide, what is the big deal with having a mounted camera on you? The difference is the cameras will show what actually happens, instead of the police officers version of events.
Link?
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^^^^^^^^ co-signed. :(
fuck you gramps
bet your first on the phone when you get shipped bunk kigs
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This is a good vid and shooting begins at 54.
It's important to send the canine in after the guy is dead. ::)
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This is a good vid and shooting begins at 54.
It's important to send the canine in after the guy is dead. ::)
How did they know he was dead? Are they omniscient?
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#Whitebumlivesmatter
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I disagree. We use camera footage all the time to investigate claims of rudeness. Otherwise it is the citizen vs the officer. In the majority of cases it wasn't the officer who was rude. But in a few cases there are instances when the officer was less than professional and needs counseling and further monitoring to insure citizens are treated respectfully.
I haven't ran into an officer yet that is anti camera.
Based on who? Other officers? Internal Affairs? All part of the same team. They need independent people to verify this. Allowing cops to investigate claims is similar to allowing restaurants to run their own health inspection. ::) ::) ::)
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Looks like a bad shoot. Whoever threw the flash bang, was an idiot. The guy was cooperating and they should have deviated from the plan if it was to make a move to take him into custody. Unless it's shown at trial the man was turning to reach for a gun that is out of sight of this camera, there is no justification for it.
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Link?
Link to what? I posted that on January 16. I am not going to be assed to go back and find the article.
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Based on who? Other officers? Internal Affairs? All part of the same team. They need independent people to verify this. Allowing cops to investigate claims is similar to allowing restaurants to run their own health inspection. ::) ::) ::)
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Sorry, I forgot who I was dealing with.
We have police monitors who are civilians who also participate in citizen complaints. Also we give the citizen the opportunity to come in and view the video with the supervisor. When I was a Sergeant on patrol I viewed dozens of videos due to complaints and rarely found the behavior the citizen complained of, and many times found the citizen to be the jerk. When the citizen was offered to come in and review it, once they realized it was taped, I can recall 1 who came in .. the rest suddenly decided they might have over reacted..
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Sorry, I forgot who I was dealing with.
We have police monitors who are civilians who also participate in citizen complaints. Also we give the citizen the opportunity to come in and view the video with the supervisor. When I was a Sergeant on patrol I viewed dozens of videos due to complaints and rarely found the behavior the citizen complained of, and many times found the citizen to be the jerk. When the citizen was offered to come in and review it, once they realized it was taped, I can recall 1 who came in .. the rest suddenly decided they might have over reacted..
Internal Affairs and cops, are they chummy, 007?
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Internal Affairs and cops, are they chummy, 007?
Assuming that every cop show in history is right, IA and the rank-and-file are most certainly NOT "chums"
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Sorry, I forgot who I was dealing with.
We have police monitors who are civilians who also participate in citizen complaints. Also we give the citizen the opportunity to come in and view the video with the supervisor. When I was a Sergeant on patrol I viewed dozens of videos due to complaints and rarely found the behavior the citizen complained of, and many times found the citizen to be the jerk. When the citizen was offered to come in and review it, once they realized it was taped, I can recall 1 who came in .. the rest suddenly decided they might have over reacted..
hahaha, of course youre going to take your buddies side (cops). The problem is that you're viewing these incidents as a police officer, thus you're going to be biased to a certain extent. Like it matters that you view the videos with the citizen. Youre going to make a decision at the end of the day no matter what, and for the most part, youre going to take an officer side. Of course the citizen is usually the jerk. ::) ::)
Also, the civilians who supposedly look at these videos are only there because its good PR. I doubt the officers take their opinions seriously.
The police force is rotten to the core. Its a cult. You all have each others backs. At the end of the day, if you have to take a citizens side or your partners side, youre going to take your partners side.
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Assuming that every cop show in history is right, IA and the rank-and-file are most certainly NOT "chums"
That's certainly my impression.
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hahaha, of course youre going to take your buddies side (cops). The problem is that you're viewing these incidents as a police officer, thus you're going to be biased to a certain extent. Like it matters that you view the videos with the citizen. Youre going to make a decision at the end of the day no matter what, and for the most part, youre going to take an officer side. Of course the citizen is usually the jerk. ::) ::)
Also, the civilians who supposedly look at these videos are only there because its good PR. I doubt the officers take their opinions seriously.
The police force is rotten to the core. Its a cult. You all have each others backs. At the end of the day, if you have to take a citizens side or your partners side, youre going to take your partners side.
Yes think that's a fairly accurate reflection.
Cop sides with joe public against other cop in same cop station.. ::)
Cop sides with other cop in same cop station against joe public.. ;D
No doubt we will be called
cop haters
Ignorant
Or have
Authority issues
Right agnostic.
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hahaha, of course youre going to take your buddies side (cops). The problem is that you're viewing these incidents as a police officer, thus you're going to be biased to a certain extent. Like it matters that you view the videos with the citizen. Youre going to make a decision at the end of the day no matter what, and for the most part, youre going to take an officer side. Of course the citizen is usually the jerk. ::) ::)
Also, the civilians who supposedly look at these videos are only there because its good PR. I doubt the officers take their opinions seriously.
The police force is rotten to the core. Its a cult. You all have each others backs. At the end of the day, if you have to take a citizens side or your partners side, youre going to take your partners side.
Don't forget this: "I'd quit today if my career hinged on the decisions of civilians"
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Don't forget this:
"I'd quit today if my career hinged on the decisions of civilians"
Hmmm Sadly We can't Quit being The Public,
And our Lives Depend on the Decisions & actions of Cops.
Worrying Very Worrying.
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I disagree. We use camera footage all the time to investigate claims of rudeness. Otherwise it is the citizen vs the officer. In the majority of cases it wasn't the officer who was rude. But in a few cases there are instances when the officer was less than professional and needs counseling and further monitoring to insure citizens are treated respectfully.
I haven't ran into an officer yet that is anti camera.
Have you heard of Google? Enter "Cop beating citizen" or any variation of the phrase.....you will find many cops who are anti-camera. Actually, some of them are former cops now (and hopefully rotting in solitary)......because of recording devices.
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fuck you gramps
bet your first on the phone when you get shipped bunk kigs
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh please go suck a dick sir.
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Internal Affairs and cops, are they chummy, 007?
I wouldn't say chummy. IA investigates complaints on officers regarding policy violations. What cops want is thorough and fair investigations. As a cop, if I haven't done what I'm accused of, I want a good investigator looking into it. Our IA investigators are the rank of Sergeant. They all have investigative experience. They are the gatherers of the facts. Once the investigation is done, shadowed by the Office of Police Monitor, the results are turned over to the Chain of Command. During the process, the COC can ask for additional information, interviews and evidence. the COC then comes to a joint conclusion based on the evidence.
Unlike what TV portrays about animosity between IA and the street cops, they don't dislike them, they do respect them
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hahaha, of course youre going to take your buddies side (cops). The problem is that you're viewing these incidents as a police officer, thus you're going to be biased to a certain extent. Like it matters that you view the videos with the citizen. Youre going to make a decision at the end of the day no matter what, and for the most part, youre going to take an officer side. Of course the citizen is usually the jerk. ::) ::)
Also, the civilians who supposedly look at these videos are only there because its good PR. I doubt the officers take their opinions seriously.
The police force is rotten to the core. Its a cult. You all have each others backs. At the end of the day, if you have to take a citizens side or your partners side, youre going to take your partners side.
Why even ask me a question if you are going to automatically discount the answer if it doesn't agree with you?
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Why even ask me a question if you are going to automatically discount the answer if it doesn't agree with you?
Just because you provided me with an answer it doesnt mean I have to agree with the answer, nor does it mean it is sufficient.
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hahaha, of course youre going to take your buddies side (cops). The problem is that you're viewing these incidents as a police officer, thus you're going to be biased to a certain extent. Like it matters that you view the videos with the citizen. Youre going to make a decision at the end of the day no matter what, and for the most part, youre going to take an officer side. Of course the citizen is usually the jerk. ::) ::)
Also, the civilians who supposedly look at these videos are only there because its good PR. I doubt the officers take their opinions seriously.
The police force is rotten to the core. Its a cult. You all have each others backs. At the end of the day, if you have to take a citizens side or your partners side, youre going to take your partners side.
You're not listening. I said I have found instances when the citizen was right. If I am as corrupt as you say, I would have found zero. I have overturned a cops crash report because the citizen came in and explained their version with me and the cop who investigated the crash present. I agreed with the citizen and the officer amended the report. Many many times officers have been held accountable due to citizen complaints. So to make your version fit.. there would be literally zero times that happens.
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You're not listening. I said I have found instances when the citizen was right. If I am as corrupt as you say, I would have found zero. I have overturned a cops crash report because the citizen came in and explained their version with me and the cop who investigated the crash present. I agreed with the citizen and the officer amended the report. Many many times officers have been held accountable due to citizen complaints. So to make your version fit.. there would be literally zero times that happens.
And the cop that lied, desk duty for a week with full pay, huh?
Guarantee you he was not fired. Most people who lie at work are fired. But cops have each others backs. Even when they get in trouble, other cops will ensure the penalty is the bare minimum.
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And the cop that lied, desk duty for a week with full pay, huh?
Guarantee you he was not fired. Most people who lie at work are fired. But cops have each others backs. Even when they get in trouble, other cops will ensure the penalty is the bare minimum.
Who said the cop lied? It was a crash investigation. The cop came to a conclusion that in my opinion was incorrect in my opinion. Based on my experience I sided with the citizen. (Both drivers were citizens so it wasn't a cop covering, it was a cop getting it wrong on the crash investigation).
So if I told you I have been personally involved in the termination of 2 cops, one for lying about being on a contract to get discounted movie tickets, and one because he said he had his siren on when he crashed and 3 citizens said he didn't.. would you discount that and still maintain we cover for each other?
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So if I told you I have been personally involved in the termination of 2 cops, one for lying about being on a contract to get discounted movie tickets, and one because he said he had his siren on when he crashed and 3 citizens said he didn't.. would you discount that and still maintain we cover for each other?
Good to hear that. I don't discount that.
Yet also many many times we have all seen where cops
Have lied & covered for each other.
Hiding evidence, lying, planting evidence, framing people,
Etc etc etc,
Yet Will you discount all of that & maintain that cops don't cover for each other.
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Guy pulled a knife...has a history of assaulting cops...I have no sympathy for this dirtbag or the lowlifes on here who hate cops...fuk em.....
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Just because you provided me with an answer it doesnt mean I have to agree with the answer, nor does it mean it is sufficient.
That's not what I mean. Saying "Ha! I knew you would say that, you'll never say anything other than back up an officer" means you really aren't interested in the answer. So why ask
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Good to hear that. I don't discount that.
Yet also many many times we have all seen where cops
Have lied & covered for each other.
Hiding evidence, lying, planting evidence, framing people,
Etc etc etc,
Yet Will you discount all of that & maintain that cops don't cover for each other.
No, I have never said, nor never will say cops don't cover for each other. I would be an idiot to say that. We differ only on the extent in which it happens.
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We don't have many bums, we have people to whom live went sideways.
State and organizations help them and never ever police or our semi-militarized urban forces would kill someone for camping in the desert.
Even during fascism this kind of crime never happened, and fascism ended in 1974 over here.
where are you in Germany?
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where are you in Germany?
1974, I would think he's in Spain if talking about Fascism.
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1974, I would think he's in Spain if talking about Fascism.
yeah....true
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In other news....
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/us/alabama-birmingham-police-detective-pistol-whipped/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/13/us/alabama-birmingham-police-detective-pistol-whipped/index.html)
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No, I have never said, nor never will say cops don't cover for each other. I would be an idiot to say that. We differ only on the extent in which it happens.
Phew at last at least a partial agreement.
And admittance as to what goes on.
Thank you.
;)
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just in
They will be facing Murder/Manslaughter charges:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/s3882437.shtml#.VdOOgpDlv-c
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just in
They will be facing Murder/Manslaughter charges:
http://www.kob.com/article/stories/s3882437.shtml#.VdOOgpDlv-c
About time.
And a step in the right direction.
Make them accountable for their despicable behaviour
Instead of hiding behind their job/ badge.
A scumbag murderer is a scumbag murderer .
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Bullshit...This scumbag had threatened cops before and pulled out knives right before he got shot...Good riddance....
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Bullshit...This scumbag had threatened cops before and pulled out knives right before he got shot...Good riddance....
Do you really want to live in a society where what you allegedly did in the past means you get shot in the present without justifiable cause? I sure don't
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He pulled out knives.....was probably 10 feet from an officer....THAT justifies being shot.....
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He pulled out knives.....was probably 10 feet from an officer....THAT justifies being shot.....
10 ft away with a knife on a street.. legit threat.. 10 ft away on a rocky hillside... not as much.. turning away from the officers.. even less threat unless he was reaching for a gun which no one has ever indicated was happening.
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The plan was horribly executed. They chose a time when he actually agreed to come down the hill with them to deploy the flashbang and make a move to take him into custody. Couldn't time it worse. So he pulls a knife after the flash bang.. regroup, back off and talk him back down again... go to plan B. I expect some semblance of competence from a specialized unit and they fell short.
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Scumbag with a history of violence and threatening officers pulls knife with cop 10 feet away...Shoot his ass....