Author Topic: JUSTICE for homeless man killed by psycho cops (Read 10611 times)

muscleman-2013 · « **on:** January 16, 2015, 06:03:34 AM »

Albuquerque police charged in homeless killing

Two police officers in Albuquerque, New Mexico, will face charges for killing a homeless camper, their lawyers say.

Former detective Keith Sandy and officer Dominique Perez will face a murder charge in the death of James Boyd, 38.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-30783324

BigNJ · « **Reply #1 on:** January 16, 2015, 06:48:46 AM »

Big tough guys those American police LOL

illuminati · « **Reply #2 on:** January 16, 2015, 06:57:33 AM »

No doubt some of theses Police Shooting Incidents are unavoidable & justified.
It does appear there is a lot that are not, Typically the unarmed victim shootings
Police worn cam corders should be mandatory.
Any switching off or not wearing should be treated as highly dubious.
This may help save innocent lives & Redeem innocent cops of wrong doing.

SF1900 · « **Reply #3 on:** January 16, 2015, 08:00:44 AM »

Quote from: illuminati on January 16, 2015, 06:57:33 AM

No doubt some of theses Police Shooting Incidents are unavoidable & justified.
It does appear there is a lot that are not, Typically the unarmed victim shootings
Police worn cam corders should be mandatory.
Any switching off or not wearing should be treated as highly dubious.
This may help save innocent lives & Redeem innocent cops of wrong doing.

I believe this was supposed to happen with the NYPD, but they are pushing back. The only reason officers would push back against these cameras is because they want to continue doing illegal things without getting caught. There is no other reason for this. Cameras don't lie and if you have nothing to hide, what is the big deal with having a mounted camera on you? The difference is the cameras will show what actually happens, instead of the police officers version of events.

Agnostic007 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 16, 2015, 08:22:20 AM »

I think its a very good thing that this goes to trial. Shooting someone should be a last resort option. IN this case, I don't feel it was even close to a last resort option. I don't want police hesitating to shoot in a real life and death situation because they fear public outcry, but I don't want police skipping ahead and shooting someone because they get impatient.

Voice of Doom · « **Reply #5 on:** January 16, 2015, 08:24:55 AM »

Quote from: SF1900 on January 16, 2015, 08:00:44 AM

I believe this was supposed to happen with the NYPD, but they are pushing back. The only reason officers would push back against these cameras is because they want to continue doing illegal things without getting caught. There is no other reason for this. Cameras don't lie and if you have nothing to hide, what is the big deal with having a mounted camera on you? The difference is the cameras will show what actually happens, instead of the police officers version of events.

The rhetoric for the massive increase in the police state since 9/11 has been "if you've got nothing to hide what's the problem?". Seems like that's fair for the police too. If it isn't, then the original justification was a lie and it was about consolidating power and undercutting the 'Bill of Rights'.

tommywishbone · « **Reply #6 on:** January 16, 2015, 08:26:43 AM »

Pigs always gotta pigs.

falco · « **Reply #7 on:** January 16, 2015, 08:46:52 AM »

This would never happen in Portugal.

wes · « **Reply #8 on:** January 16, 2015, 08:49:18 AM »

Quote from: tommywishbone on January 16, 2015, 08:26:43 AM

Pigs always gotta pigs.

^^^^^^^^ co-signed.

oldgolds · « **Reply #9 on:** January 16, 2015, 09:54:44 AM »

The dirtbag bum pulled a knife...Would you take a chance on on this scumbag stabbing you, or your dog...Brave guys on the internet...

SF1900 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 16, 2015, 10:05:01 AM »

Quote from: Voice of Doom on January 16, 2015, 08:24:55 AM

The rhetoric for the massive increase in the police state since 9/11 has been "if you've got nothing to hide what's the problem?". Seems like that's fair for the police too. If it isn't, then the original justification was a lie and it was about consolidating power and undercutting the 'Bill of Rights'.

Exactly. Cops will pull you over and if you have nothing to hide, then all should go smoothly and you will be on your way without any incident.

Similarly, if cops are following protocol and shit goes down, the cameras will show exactly what happened. The cops will be justified in their actions and will be on their way.

As stated, the only reason why a cop would not want cameras is so they can give their own version of the events. I cannot think of any other reason to push back against a mounted camera. If anything, it will help the cops out if they need to shoot someone.

wes · « **Reply #11 on:** January 16, 2015, 10:32:42 AM »

Quote from: oldgolds on January 16, 2015, 09:54:44 AM

The dirtbag bum pulled a knife...Would you take a chance on on this scumbag stabbing you, or your dog...Brave guys on the internet...

I`ve disarmed far more threatening adversaries.

Competitor 9 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 16, 2015, 10:47:50 AM »

I'm usually the one all for the cops but this one is just sick. This is a bunch of thugs use to doing whatever they want and I hope they fry

Nails · « **Reply #13 on:** January 16, 2015, 11:38:56 AM »

Pigs never see a day in jail

They stay rolling in shit on the streets

visualizeperfection · « **Reply #14 on:** January 16, 2015, 12:08:41 PM »

Quote from: illuminati on January 16, 2015, 06:57:33 AM

No doubt some of theses Police Shooting Incidents are unavoidable & justified.
It does appear there is a lot that are not, Typically the unarmed victim shootings
Police worn cam corders should be mandatory.
Any switching off or not wearing should be treated as highly dubious.
This may help save innocent lives & Redeem innocent cops of wrong doing.

You are unreal.

There are a lot of reasons to not want to be recorded all of the time. Maybe he is having a smoke with his buddy, talking about the slut he banged from the bar last night? Maybe he doesnt want to be caught talking about how much he hates having to work overtime? How fat his supervisors ass is?

We need to understand that cops make on average like 50k a year. They do their best, mostly uneducated, blue collar types. Mensa members and oxford grads arent exactly lining up for 50k a year and a fucking camera on their chest, recording everytime they call someone an asshole while driving for cutting them off, talking about their personal lives, business etc. Cops are normal people for the most part. Oh brother.

Agnostic007 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 16, 2015, 12:15:02 PM »

Quote from: visualizeperfection on January 16, 2015, 12:08:41 PM

You are unreal.

There are a lot of reasons to not want to be recorded all of the time. Maybe he is having a smoke with his buddy, talking about the slut he banged from the bar last night? Maybe he doesnt want to be caught talking about how much he hates having to work overtime? How fat his supervisors ass is?

We need to understand that cops make on average like 50k a year. They do their best, mostly uneducated, blue collar types. Mensa members and oxford grads arent exactly lining up for 50k a year and a fucking camera on their chest, recording everytime they call someone an asshole while driving for cutting them off, talking about their personal lives, business etc. Cops are normal people for the most part. Oh brother.

Recording the entire shift is not the norm for those reasons you mentioned and data storage issues. Ironically, recently two of our cops "thought" they weren't recording when they actually were in between calls and thier conversation made the news. It was not flattering for us to say the least. As cops, I get what they were saying, as a citizen, it's concerning. Among other things, they were apparently commenting on the way a female was dressed who happened to walk into their view. Things like "Don't call us when you get raped we can't unrape you" were overheard. Made the cops seem less than sympathetic to women sexual assault victims.

SF1900 · « **Reply #16 on:** January 16, 2015, 03:03:32 PM »

Quote from: visualizeperfection on January 16, 2015, 12:08:41 PM

You are unreal.

There are a lot of reasons to not want to be recorded all of the time. Maybe he is having a smoke with his buddy, talking about the slut he banged from the bar last night? Maybe he doesnt want to be caught talking about how much he hates having to work overtime? How fat his supervisors ass is?

We need to understand that cops make on average like 50k a year. They do their best, mostly uneducated, blue collar types. Mensa members and oxford grads arent exactly lining up for 50k a year and a fucking camera on their chest, recording everytime they call someone an asshole while driving for cutting them off, talking about their personal lives, business etc. Cops are normal people for the most part. Oh brother.

Might seem far fetched but why can't they turn it in when called to a scene? Though I can understand this may not be the first thing on their mind. Nonetheless, something needs to be done. I personally don't think they want to wear a camera because they don't want to be held responsible for their abuse of power.

_bruce_ · « **Reply #17 on:** January 16, 2015, 03:50:06 PM »

Quote from: falco on January 16, 2015, 08:46:52 AM

This would never happen in Portugal.

Only bums, no police.

illuminati · « **Reply #18 on:** January 16, 2015, 03:54:02 PM »

Quote from: visualizeperfection on January 16, 2015, 12:08:41 PM

You are unreal.

There are a lot of reasons to not want to be recorded all of the time. Maybe he is having a smoke with his buddy, talking about the slut he banged from the bar last night? Maybe he doesnt want to be caught talking about how much he hates having to work overtime? How fat his supervisors ass is?

We need to understand that cops make on average like 50k a year. They do their best, mostly uneducated, blue collar types. Mensa members and oxford grads arent exactly lining up for 50k a year and a fucking camera on their chest, recording everytime they call someone an asshole while driving for cutting them off, talking about their personal lives, business etc. Cops are normal people for the most part. Oh brother.

I think it's you & the cop on here who are Unreal.
Constant excuses for unwarranted deaths.
If wearing a camera is part of the job for yours & others safety
You either do the job or you don't.
Being a cop isn't the only job in the world.

Plenty of 24hr surveillance camera's out there & loads of intelligence agencies storing and collecting information
And there doesn't to seem to be a Problem with Data storage..
Or is just the cops have this Problem.

What a couple of police Apologists, Oh so Sorry The Cops Can Do No Wrong.
BOLLOCKS.

visualizeperfection · « **Reply #19 on:** January 16, 2015, 04:44:52 PM »

I only have adult conversations with adults ^^

Back to the kiddy table for you.

Quote from: SF1900 on January 16, 2015, 03:03:32 PM

Might seem far fetched but why can't they turn it in when called to a scene? Though I can understand this may not be the first thing on their mind. Nonetheless, something needs to be done. I personally don't think they want to wear a camera because they don't want to be held responsible for their abuse of power.

The ability to turn it on, on demand, is more reasonable; but citing their failure to begin recording as de facto dubious behavior is unreal. Especially in a case like this.

Yes his bodycam was on, I am leaning more towards the fact the initial contact was very calm and what happened almost completely unexpected. A routine call in regards to a domestic disturbance (husbands and wifes having a heated VERBAL ONLY debate often yields a police response), and look how it ended. Something a lot of cops (I would imagine) would take no special thought or consideration due to the common nature of the call. "Business as usual".

Another thing to note in aforementioned video is one of the reasons people get shot when they make moves suggestive of assaultive behavior and/or possession of a weapon. Alot of the time the suspect DOES have a weapon. Clearly.

illuminati · « **Reply #20 on:** January 17, 2015, 01:27:24 AM »

Quote from: visualizeperfection on January 16, 2015, 04:44:52 PM

I only have adult conversations with adults ^^

Back to the kiddy table for you.

The ability to turn it on, on demand, is more reasonable; but citing their failure to begin recording as de facto dubious behavior is unreal. Especially in a case like this.

Yes his bodycam was on, I am leaning more towards the fact the initial contact was very calm and what happened almost completely unexpected. A routine call in regards to a domestic disturbance (husbands and wifes having a heated VERBAL ONLY debate often yields a police response), and look how it ended. Something a lot of cops (I would imagine) would take no special thought or consideration due to the common nature of the call. "Business as usual".

Another thing to note in aforementioned video is one of the reasons people get shot when they make moves suggestive of assaultive behavior and/or possession of a weapon. Alot of the time the suspect DOES have a weapon. Clearly.

Ha. Such a grown up reply.
Just Admit your were wrong.
And try to come up with a solution to the problem of unnecessary & unwarranted
Shootings By Cops.

Until then I hope you can keep away from writing more
BOLLOCKS on Here.

YET another Big Intellectual I am Right Internet Mastermind.. NOT

visualizeperfection · « **Reply #21 on:** January 17, 2015, 03:12:41 AM »

Blah blah blah

Quote from: illuminati on January 17, 2015, 01:27:24 AM

Ha. Such a grown up reply.
Just Admit your were wrong.
And try to come up with a solution to the problem of unnecessary & unwarranted
Shootings By Cops.

Until then I hope you can keep away from writing more
BOLLOCKS on Here.

YET another Big Intellectual I am Right Internet Mastermind.. NOT

illuminati · « **Reply #22 on:** January 17, 2015, 04:38:41 AM »

I kinda feel for you.
You are frequently being shown up for your immature Postings.
Do you not get fed up with the constant ownings you get on here.

I take it you are Back on the Drink Excessively.

Oh and what was it you were convicted of you
Never replied to that question Either.

Let's just Agree to Disagree.

It is just a Internet forum.

falco · « **Reply #23 on:** January 17, 2015, 04:45:39 AM »

Quote from: _bruce_ on January 16, 2015, 03:50:06 PM

Only bums, no police.

We don't have many bums, we have people to whom live went sideways.
State and organizations help them and never ever police or our semi-militarized urban forces would kill someone for camping in the desert.
Even during fascism this kind of crime never happened, and fascism ended in 1974 over here.

Rascal full · « **Reply #24 on:** January 17, 2015, 04:51:14 AM »

Quote from: wes on January 16, 2015, 10:32:42 AM

I`ve disarmed far more threatening adversaries.

This is precisely the point five guys showing up and pumping a tramp full of holes is excessive force.