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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Uncle Joon on February 21, 2015, 06:10:12 PM
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Groink just said in other thread he is 220lb at 7% bf which got me thinking about the maths of fat loss.
I am 220lb @ 17% right now that means I am carrying 37.4lb of extra fat? (220lb x 17% = 37.4lb)
Now say I want to be 8.5 % BF, that means I have to lose 18.7lb fat.
I figured this out by diving 17% by 2 which is 8.5%. (In other words 37.4lb divided by 2 = 18.7lb fat).
Now I understand in order to lose 18.7lb fat you will also lose muscle in that process dieting too.
But the question becomes in what ratio? I am just going to go ahead and assume I will lose 2lb muscle for every pound of fat I lose.
Therefore 18.7% Fat loss will mean 37lb muscle loss.
So therefore in order for me to be 8.5% bf I will have to lose altogether 55.7lb of weight altogether (18.7lb worth of fat & the 37lb of muscle resulting from dieting and cardio).
That means in order for me to be 8.5% bf I will need to weigh close to around 165 lb.
Lets explore further.
For every lb of weight lost you need to burn of or be in deficit 3500 calories.
Therefore, 55.7lb weight loss would need to create a 194, 950 calorie deficit in total.
This mean that if you create a 2k calories deficit a day it will take 94.4 day to lose (3.2 months) for me to be 8.5% BF @ 165lb.
(194,950 divided by 2)
Lets explore further.
Lets say my TDEE is 2700 calories a day. Lets say I do one hour cardio a day which burns 400 calories + one weight training session which burns 300 calories.
That's 700 calories burned there.
Now lets say I eat 1000 calories a day.
This means I have created 1700 calorie deficit, which is still 300 calories short of target of 2000 deficit so need to add in another cardio session.
So to conclude in order for me to be 8.5% BF @ 165lb in 3.2 months I would have to do 2 x one hour cardio sessions a day + one weight training session and eat no more than 1000 calories every single day for 3.2 months straight.
And that is a mutherfucking fact.
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No way you should lose two lbs of muscle for every lb of fat when on stuff.
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You have been going on about losing fat since your weak, sorry ass showed up. You just look more horrendous then ever!
Motherfucking fact is you are a fucking drug addict and a liar!
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the simple math is your willpower sucks and you can't stick to a diet and training programe
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You won't lose much muscle while dieting on the sauce.
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220 ripped by June of peace :D
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just lose the alcohol
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You won't really lose much muscle dieting clean either. You shouldn't worry about what you lose and just get as lean as possible.
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Yes there's no hope.
Hope this help
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It sounded so easy when you talked about hitting 200-220lbs @ 7% by june.
I mean you had Bostin's stack and wasn't afraid of hitting it hard unlike us pussies on getbig. :D
What's the matter, already giving up before you even started? I wish everyone luck in their goals but who respects someone who only talks big?
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Groink is not 7% body fat lol. He's trolling you. Did you see the video and of the guy who is REALLY 6%?
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Loosing muscles on diet are jut a fucking myth! You are just fat and has always been. People belive they have muscle when bulked up, pure fat and water and filled cell with carbs! Thats all!
When u diet, u loose fat not muscle. And u got more fat than u think, U got fat inside your muscles to!
Its so fucking obvious when u see bulked guys in the gym. Its just water and fat. Almost zero muscles on them! Very few guys inthe gymhave some quality muscles!
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You can still look good at 12% with decent muscle size and a bit of a tan.
Everyone has the ability to cut, for some it's easier than others but cutting needs discipline.... someone bipolar like yourself isn't ideal for this process as when your mood is right you'll eat 1000 calories and train 7 times a week with 1 hour cardio then 10 days later wake up to a coke binge and a threesome with a sugar babe and a tranny followed by nandos and kfc....cutting needs a lot of patience and a steady frame of mind over a 12 week period plus.
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For those saying you will not lose 2lb of muscle for 1lb of fat you don't what you are talking about. In short you are clueless.
If anything I have been extremely optimistic with my muscle loss target ratio of 2-1.
The true ratio for extreme fat loss/crash diet is closer to 3lb of muscle loss for every 1lb of fat.
Now you have to bear in mind this fat/weight loss is crash diet to be completed in 3.2 months. Bear in mind you are eating just 1000 calories a day and training 3 times a day (2 cardio sessions + 1 weight training session)
and running a 2000 daily caloric deficit.
Of course you will lose an absolute shit ton of muscle. I have done it before for fight prep to make weight to I know this figure is correct.
Bear in mind you are losing 17lb a month here for 3 months straight, not your shitty lousy 2lb a week or 8lb a month.
If I was gonna slow cut @ 2lb a week, yes of course I will retain much more muscle but in order to lose 55lb we are talking doing that for 28 weeks, i.e. 7 months!!!!!!! Fuck that.
Lyle McDonald also agrees and states the 3-1 ratio is about correct in Ultimate Diet 2 and from personal experience I agree.
I have taken into account I will be on gear so have assumed the gear will allow me to retain an extra 33% of muscle.
Hence why I reduced the 3-1 ratio down to 2-1.
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In order for me to have come in at 220lb sub 10% I would have needed to have bulked up off season to 250-60lb minimum.
This would have meant I would have also needed to substantially up my doses to around 4-5g a week + Growth hormone, possibly insulin.
BigRo I think is on around 4-5g a week.
I would have needed to eat around 7000 calories a day.
I imagine something like 1g test 3g Deca + 50-100mg D-Bol + 4-8IU GH would have been required.
There is no fucking way at age of 36 with my red blood cell count being extremely high as it is already, a fucked up shoulder that needs to have surgery, and less than optimal bodybuilding lifestyle I was going to risk all that just to impress Booty.
Boston is young man, he can get away with it.
For me I would have had a heart attack or stoke within 1 year if I did that.
No fucking way I am going up to 4g.
I already feel like death at 1.5g
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You can still look good at 12% with decent muscle size and a bit of a tan.
Everyone has the ability to cut, for some it's easier than others but cutting needs discipline.... someone bipolar like yourself isn't ideal for this process as when your mood is right you'll eat 1000 calories and train 7 times a week with 1 hour cardio then 10 days later wake up to a coke binge and a threesome with a sugar babe and a tranny followed by nandos and kfc....cutting needs a lot of patience and a steady frame of mind over a 12 week period plus.
I am not bipolar but thanks for the rest of the ground breaking advice.
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Big Ro has been running 2gms a week for a few weeks prior to that it was 250mg test a week for 2 months.
(current weight 19stone 2lbs, is that around 265lbs or something.)
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I am not bipolar but thanks for the rest of the ground breaking advice.
Trannipolar? :D
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Joon - get your shoulder fixed, clean out...and just get in shape after it.
I'll give you the secret:
Move around a lot, lift some weights, and don't eat too much.
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This is a comical thread. I chuckle a lot at the broscience.
A guy who would weigh 141 lbs if he got down to 7% bodyfat is giving advice on muscle retention during pre-contest dieting based on the one and only book he's read on the subject.
Next he will pontificate on gear use, or running a million pound Telecoms company, both of which could provide us with many more laughs.
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the simple math is your willpower sucks and you can't stick to a diet and training programe
This.
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Joon - get your shoulder fixed, clean out...and just get in shape after it.
I'll give you the secret:
Move around a lot, lift some weights, and don't eat too much.
Yeah well right now I cant move 20 yards without hyperventilating, I have extreme lethargy and am literally bed bound, same shit happened last time around.
I need to give blood ASAP but my cock sucker doctor is in Dubai.
He will be back on Wednesday.
I don't feel well.
I am going to PCT and come off pronto.
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If I can get my hands on some local anesthetic I can take out 2 pints blood myself.
But it kills without the anesthetic.
The cu nt blood depot won't take blood off me.
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This is a comical thread. I chuckle a lot at the broscience.
A guy who would weigh 141 lbs if he got down to 7% bodyfat is giving advice on muscle retention during pre-contest dieting based on the one and only book he's read on the subject.
Next he will pontificate on gear use, or running a million pound Telecoms company, both of which could provide us with many more laughs.
:D
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This is a comical thread. I chuckle a lot at the broscience.
A guy who would weigh 141 lbs if he got down to 7% bodyfat is giving advice on muscle retention during pre-contest dieting based on the one and only book he's read on the subject.
Next he will pontificate on gear use, or running a million pound Telecoms company, both of which could provide us with many more laughs.
((((Chooooper))))
Love you faggy. ;D
Mwah
x0x0
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Yeah well right now I cant move 20 yards without hyperventilating, I have extreme lethargy and am literally bed bound, same shit happened last time around.
I need to give blood ASAP but my cock sucker doctor is in Dubai.
He will be back on Wednesday.
I don't feel well.
I am going to PCT and come off pronto.
So you drink and do coke several times a week and think steroids are killing you making you bed bound? You said guys here are pussies when they don't push the doses... who's the pussy now? 1500mg and close to death, not to mention you think your Alpha Pharma is 50% underdosed. ::) :D
This is your quote :D :D :D
I am not fucking around with wishy washy gay ass stacks here I am on nearly G and half + Pharma GH.
If I have to push slin soon I will (but rather not right now)
Either way 200 + 7% is happening. If I only come in 190lb so be it, but its STILL GONNA HAPPEN.
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So you drink and do coke several times a week and think steroids are killing you making you bed bound? You said guys here are pussies when they don't push the doses... who's the pussy now? 1500mg and close to death, not to mention you think your Alpha Pharma is 50% underdosed. ::) :D
This is your quote :D :D :D
I will be fine after i give blood, this is just to do with very high RBC.
I know because I had same problem before.
I have naturally high Iron levels anyway (as does my whole family) its a genetic thing.
The gear pushes my hemocrit through the roof.
If I don't give blood every too months I feel like death.
And yes I believe legit pharmaceutical gear is different world to underground lab gear.
Me taking 1500mg Pharm is probably like taking 3g Alpha Pharm.
I have doctor that tests stuff for me in lab so I know.
There is a reason why Pharm gear costs so much.
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I will be fine after i give blood, this is just to do with very high RBC.
I know because I had same problem before.
I have naturally high Iron levels anyway (as does my whole family) its a genetic thing.
The gear pushes my hemocrit through the roof.
If I don't give blood every too months I feel like death.
And yes I believe legit pharmaceutical gear is different world to underground lab gear.
Me taking 1500mg Pharm is probably like taking 3g Alpha Pharm.
I have doctor that tests stuff for me in lab so I know.
There is a reason why Pharm gear costs so much.
What's your game plan going forward?
Do you see yourself still lifting and using gear a year from now?
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And yes I believe legit pharmaceutical gear is different world to underground lab gear.
Me taking 1500mg Pharm is probably like taking 3g Alpha Pharm.
I have doctor that tests stuff for me in lab so I know.
There is a reason why Pharm gear costs so much.
I do not believe you have a "doctor" testing your stuff, just don't believe it. How much "legit pharmaceutical gear" have you run in your life anyway, except testosterone and proviron or whatever? Which products have you compared?
Please share a couple of test results from your doctor. Name the product and claimed dosage and real dosage.
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What's your game plan going forward?
Do you see yourself still lifting and using gear a year from now?
I think being realistic with my frame and genetics 180lb sub ten percent is quite achievable realistic using mid dose stacks etc.
I think trying to come in at 200+ sub 10 percent will take another off season or two without going full retard Boston Lloyd style.
I genuinely don't enjoy Bodybuilding training or dieting. I find it boring and receptive and it doesn't get my juices flowing.
On the other hand I always loved MMA/Boxing type training and dieting (makes me feel great all round) and its how I grew up training so feels like home to me to do high intensity cardio type drills, pad work, skipping bag work, sparring etc and most important I enjoy it. You don't have to be on gear, (although HGH helps a bunch) and you burn so many calories anyway its impossible to get fat even eating shit and generally is better lifestyle.
But on the downside you will just look like regular skinny lean dude, nothing special
But positive is you will be athletic as fuck and if anyone messes with you, you always know you can rip their head off.
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((((Chooooper))))
Love you faggy. ;D
Mwah
x0x0
Not sure I understand, but no man under 220 or over 7% gets to love me, except Knooger of course.
A gram and a half and you look worse than Genova.
Quit now while you're behind.
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I think being realistic with my frame and genetics 180lb sub ten percent is quite achievable realistic using mid dose stacks etc.
I think trying to come in at 200+ sub 10 percent will take another off season or two without going full retard Boston Lloyd style.
I genuinely don't enjoy Bodybuilding training or dieting. I find it boring and receptive and it doesn't get my juices flowing.
On the other hand I always loved MMA/Boxing type training and dieting (makes me feel great all round) and its how I grew up training so feels like home to me to do high intensity cardio type drills, pad work, skipping bag work, sparring etc and most important I enjoy it. You don't have to be on gear, (although HGH helps a bunch) and you burn so many calories anyway its impossible to get fat even eating shit and generally is better lifestyle.
But on the downside you will just look like regular skinny lean dude, nothing special
But positive is you will be athletic as fuck and if anyone messes with you, you always know you can rip their head off.
Maybe have the best of all worlds. Run a half gram of test plus a little hgh.
Lift heavy a couple days a week to maintain your size and train cage fighting a couple days a week to scratch that itch.
If you don't like the hardcore dieting don't do it. How often are you going to take off your shirt and run around anyways?
You can still be the guy that looks respectable in a t-shirt at around 12% plus can kick ass AND still go out and enjoy your life having some drinks, eating a decent meal and fucking whores.
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Lol if you loose that much muscle when you are juicing your genetics are terrible, believe me i have been in the game a long time your not going to loose that much...not even close to that aMount..listen to us that knows this game.
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I do not believe you have a "doctor" testing your stuff, just don't believe it. How much "legit pharmaceutical gear" have you run in your life anyway, except testosterone and proviron or whatever? Which products have you compared?
Please share a couple of test results from your doctor. Name the product and claimed dosage and real dosage.
I don't give a fuck what you believe.
I get my gear from the pharmacy with a doctors script legally.
In the UK steroids are legal for personal use.
I see one of the top endocrinologist in the UK privately who has access to national laboratories who can test whatever I want whenever I want.
Ur a moron if you think lab gear is same quality or dose as pharma.
Some stuff like Tren/EQ is fine and ok. The rest is hit and miss at best. Sometimes ok most time not.
Everything I have tested has either been fake or badly underdosed.
If you want tests something send it to me and il have it tested.
You can see some report already in steroid section.
Few sites you can send gear to for testing in UK.
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Groink just said in other thread he is 220lb at 7% bf which got me thinking about the maths of fat loss.
I am 220lb @ 17% right now that means I am carrying 37.4lb of extra fat? (220lb x 17% = 37.4lb)
Now say I want to be 8.5 % BF, that means I have to lose 18.7lb fat.
I figured this out by diving 17% by 2 which is 8.5%. (In other words 37.4lb divided by 2 = 18.7lb fat).
Now I understand in order to lose 18.7lb fat you will also lose muscle in that process dieting too.
But the question becomes in what ratio? I am just going to go ahead and assume I will lose 2lb muscle for every pound of fat I lose.
Therefore 18.7% Fat loss will mean 37lb muscle loss.
So therefore in order for me to be 8.5% bf I will have to lose altogether 55.7lb of weight altogether (18.7lb worth of fat & the 37lb of muscle resulting from dieting and cardio).
That means in order for me to be 8.5% bf I will need to weigh close to around 165 lb.
Lets explore further.
For every lb of weight lost you need to burn of or be in deficit 3500 calories.
Therefore, 55.7lb weight loss would need to create a 194, 950 calorie deficit in total.
This mean that if you create a 2k calories deficit a day it will take 94.4 day to lose (3.2 months) for me to be 8.5% BF @ 165lb.
(194,950 divided by 2)
Lets explore further.
Lets say my TDEE is 2700 calories a day. Lets say I do one hour cardio a day which burns 400 calories + one weight training session which burns 300 calories.
That's 700 calories burned there.
Now lets say I eat 1000 calories a day.
This means I have created 1700 calorie deficit, which is still 300 calories short of target of 2000 deficit so need to add in another cardio session.
So to conclude in order for me to be 8.5% BF @ 165lb in 3.2 months I would have to do 2 x one hour cardio sessions a day + one weight training session and eat no more than 1000 calories every single day for 3.2 months straight.
And that is a mutherfucking fact.
It's too much work to figure all this out. Just go by how you look, feel and how your clothes fit.
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Lol if you loose that much muscle when you are juicing your genetics are terrible, believe me i have been in the game a long time your not going to loose that much...not even close to that aMount..listen to us that knows this game.
You are an idiot.
You don't understand anything or how body works.
I already told you gear or not when you losing 17lb a month every month zero/low carb on extreme diet eating 1000 calories training 3 times a day while running 2k daily caloric deficit you are going to lose tons of muscle.
If I was going to lose 2lb a week slow cut over 7 months its different world.
I am losing 55lb in 3 months.
The ratio is around 3-1.
I already accounted for gear use and made it 2-1.
Lyle McDonald agrees. I try find the article.
Trying using ur brain for once instead of making threats about nuclear weapons and blowing up America
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Maybe have the best of all worlds. Run a half gram of test plus a little hgh.
Lift heavy a couple days a week to maintain your size and train cage fighting a couple days a week to scratch that itch.
If you don't like the hardcore dieting don't do it. How often are you going to take off your shirt and run around anyways?
You can still be the guy that looks respectable in a t-shirt at around 12% plus can kick ass AND still go out and enjoy your life having some drinks, eating a decent meal and fucking whores.
If I was doing MMA I wouldn't run test. I would just run GH on its own.
If I was going to run test it would be super low dose TRT. 200mg every 2-3 weeks.
Test is terrible for cardio for me.
You regularly pushing maximum heart rate or 180-190+ in MMA or extreme high intensity cardio.
Test pushes up heart rate. It's terrible for cardio and endurance.
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pro cyclists used or still use test, lower doses.
I cycle everywhere, can do intervals on stepper or stationary bike for 40mins.
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The voice and the accent from 2:00 to 2:17 is really good, you could pull off a Batman baddie or smething.
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You have been going on about losing fat since your weak, sorry ass showed up. You just look more horrendous then ever!
Motherfucking fact is you are a fucking drug addict and a liar!
This is the most honest post on getbig. Joon has been fat since day one and lacks willpower.
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The voice and the accent from 2:00 to 2:17 is really good, you could pull off a Batman baddie or smething.
:D
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This is the most honest post on getbig. Joon has been fat since day one and lacks willpower.
Fuck off you two faced twat.
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Fuck off you two faced twat.
Mate, you have a draw full of gear and you look like shit. deal with it.
1 year from now you will be fatter then you are today.
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I don't give a fuck what you believe.
I get my gear from the pharmacy with a doctors script legally.
In the UK steroids are legal for personal use.
I see one of the top endocrinologist in the UK privately who has access to national laboratories who can test whatever I want whenever I want.
Ur a moron if you think lab gear is same quality or dose as pharma.
Some stuff like Tren/EQ is fine and ok. The rest is hit and miss at best. Sometimes ok most time not.
Everything I have tested has either been fake or badly underdosed.
If you want tests something send it to me and il have it tested.
You can see some report already in steroid section.
Few sites you can send gear to for testing in UK.
Can't find the posts with the tests, please link? How many AP products have you tested personally?
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Mate, you have a draw full of gear and you look like shit. deal with it.
1 year from now you will be fatter then you are today.
I am the biggest I have even been you moron, I put on 30lb of muscle since last year u idiot.
I have put on 5 inches on my chest and inch and half on my arms, 18.5 pumped, sometimes close to 19's if I am on D-Bol.
I am just off season puffy. Maybe 17-20% BF.
Just cos I might not hit my target of being 200+ sub 10 doesn't mean I won't own 90% of the anonymous twinks here at 180lb sub 10.
You have no idea how I look like now.
No one apart from bigmc has seen any pics.
I just got to lean up that is all. The muscle and strength is at all time best.
The other thing I don't like about you is every time I am in time out or banned u start slagging me off.
Then when I come back you are all sweet again.
Hence why you are a two faced twat.
End of discussion.
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I am the biggest I have even been you moron, I put on 30lb of muscle since last year u idiot.
I have put on 5 inches on my chest and inch and half on my arms, 18.5 pumped, sometimes close to 19's if I am on D-Bol.
I am just off season puffy. Maybe 17-20% BF.
Just cos I might not hit my target of being 200+ sub 10 doesn't mean I won't own 90% of the anonymous twinks here at 180lb sub 10.
You have no idea how I look like now.
No one apart from bigmc has seen any pics.
I just got to lean up that is all. The muscle and strength is at all time best.
The other thing I don't like about you is every time I am in time out or banned u start slagging me off.
Then when I come back you are all sweet again.
Hence why you are a two faced twat.
End of discussion.
Ok Mayar. Alex owned you.
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I am the biggest I have even been you moron, I put on 30lb of muscle since last year u idiot.
I have put on 5 inches on my chest and inch and half on my arms, 18.5 pumped, sometimes close to 19's if I am on D-Bol.
I am just off season puffy. Maybe 17-20% BF.
Just cos I might not hit my target of being 200+ sub 10 doesn't mean I won't own 90% of the anonymous twinks here at 180lb sub 10.
You have no idea how I look like now.
No one apart from bigmc has seen any pics.
I just got to lean up that is all. The muscle and strength is at all time best.
The other thing I don't like about you is every time I am in time out or banned u start slagging me off.
Then when I come back you are all sweet again.
Hence why you are a two faced twat.
End of discussion.
Bigger arms than Anabolic Halo, can we see a pictor?
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Ok Mayar. Alex owned you.
What the fuck does Alex have to do with anything?
I spoke to him for two hour on the phone u moron he is good dude.
He has twins on the way and just got a promotion at his job making mega money and doesn't wanna get dragged into internet bullshit.
Quit bringing other people into it when you know nothing about anything dickwad.
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What the fuck does Alex have to do with anything?
I spoke to him for two hour on the phone u moron he is good dude.
He has twins on the way and just got a promotion at his job making mega money and doesn't wanna get dragged into internet bullshit.
Quit bringing other people into it when you know nothing about anything dickwad.
remember when we chatted on the phone? hmmmmmm.
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Bigger arms than Anabolic Halo, can we see a pictor?
Yes but not has ripped or defined, Halo is sub 10 I am near 20 so its not exactly an achievement.
I am not sure why these morons think I am some 150lb twink.
I posted pic last year with tape measure (adonis posted em up recently) with 17 inch guns unmpumped.
Not sure why they would think I wouldn't get better in over year with double the doses?? ::)
No pics will be posted until May/June until I am around 12% or less and perfect. Not posting fatty off season pics.
Size is not the problem, conditioning is.
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remember when we chatted on the phone? hmmmmmm.
No I have no fucking idea who u are, I have never spoken to you unless you are someones gimmick who I have spoken with.
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I am just off season puffy. Maybe 17-20% BF.
That's kind of a contradiction to be honest. That's not "puffy". That's just a lot of bodyfat if you are actually that amount. Puffy=watery, etc.
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No I have no fucking idea who u are, I have never spoken to you unless you are someones gimmick who I have spoken with.
Joon, take it easy, i am trolling you.
go on...
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Joon, take it easy, i am trolling you.
go on...
Haha, sorry dude just on a come down and pissy mood, il be fine next week. ;)
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Haha, sorry dude just on a come down and pissy mood, il be fine next week. ;)
all good, no hard feelings.
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That's kind of a contradiction to be honest. That's not "puffy". That's just a lot of bodyfat if you are actually that amount. Puffy=watery, etc.
I am both fat and watery, that's what Deca, Test and D-Bol do to you, especially since I lower my AI cos it makes me feel shit.
Once I diet down, up AI and switch to dry stuff i will be 10 times better than what I was last year.
I was trying to put on serious size which I did, just not as much as I had hoped, that is all.
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Joon,
do you walk or run?
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didn't read that mathematical mess (shit is over my dumb ass head anyway...) but man... Just fuckin' do it, stop with the overthinking, gonna bust a brain cell or something.
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didn't read that mathematical mess (shit is over my dumb ass head anyway...) but man... Just fuckin' do it, stop with the overthinking, gonna bust a brain cell or something.
The problem with Joon is that his methodical, he overthinks things. If the dude would stick to his goals for 30 days he would be awesome.
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Joon,
do you walk or run?
Like you mean for cardio?
I used to like running and doing interval sprints when I was like 160-180 ish.
At 220 no fucking way I can run or do that shit anymore. Fucks my knees up and I gas quick.
I just do cross trainer for cardio, between 45 mins to hour as fast as I can without gassing and sometimes boxing bag.
Can't even skip no more, got like elephant feet
Like sex is 10 times harder too and so is tying up my shoe laces and shit.
Just feel heavy.
But I get loads more respect walking down road, like people know not to fuck with me
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Like you mean for cardio?
I used to like running and doing interval sprints when I was like 160-180 ish.
At 220 not fucking way I can run or do that shit. Fucks my knees up and I gas quick.
I just do cross trainer for cardio, between 45 mins to hour as fast as I can without gassing.
yes for cardio.
are you eating alot of junk food? not saying you do, but cardio cannot out do a bad diet.
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The problem with Joon is that his methodical, he overthinks things. If the dude would stick to his goals for 30 days he would be awesome.
type of guy who needs to spend $600 on prep coach to take advice seriously or never follows it. Not saying it's a bad thing, just the reality here.
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type of guy who needs to spend $600 on prep coach to take advice seriously or never follows it. Not saying it's a bad thing, just the reality here.
Im sure he is fully aware of it, I know his a bright dude, but that poker lifestyle is overwhelming.
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Groink is not 7% body fat lol. He's trolling you. Did you see the video and of the guy who is REALLY 6%?
7.5
14 point caliper check, done by someone who does it for a living.
sorry you suck compared to me, but save the bitter comments. they just make you look petty
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The problem with Joon is that his methodical, he overthinks things. If the dude would stick to his goals for 30 days he would be awesome.
How can one "over think" and continually get the wrong answer? Unless, the person is not really thinking (and doing the right things) at all. Which means, he's not really thinking "correctly".
He just makes things more complicated, because he thinks that it should be. And there is a lack of focus, concentration.
There is a saying "It's easy to make something complicated, and harder to make something simple."
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How can one "over think" and continually get the wrong answer? Unless, the person is not really thinking (and doing the right things) at all. Which means, he's not really thinking "correctly".
He just makes things more complicated, because he thinks that it should be. And there is a lack of focus, concentration.
There is a saying "It's easy to make something complicated, and harder to make something simple.
Thank you.
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yes for cardio.
are you eating alot of junk food? not saying you do, but cardio cannot out do a bad diet.
This is usually how my week goes. I'll break it down for you.
Wake up around 11.00-12.00 midday. Shoot gear. Go do morning cardio empty stomach. 45min - 1 hour cross trainer.
Come home, eat chicken and veg or fish or chicken and steak. (I call this the the good phase)
Log into Betfair start laying my horses and do my sports bets for the day. Post on GB in between.
Go back to sleep around 5.00pm and nap for hour or so, sometimes il go to brothel and fuck a whore instead if I am super horny.
Wake up around 6.00pm hit gym.
Train Chest+Back on Monday, Shoulders + Arms Tuesday. Repeat. I'll do legs once a week or just skip em altogether.
Come home around 7.30pm have protein drink, bit of chicken and veg etc.
Get ready go casino around 8.00-9.00pm, play poker till around 3.00-4.00am. Sometimes if shit game il gamble online instead.
Come home wank and sleep.
By around midweek (Wednesday) I am so physically and mentally fucked that I will have full retarded blowout. (the start of the bad phase)
I start drinking whiskey and snorting coke and usually some girls who want either coke/weed from me or escorts or general hoes/skanks will come over my house.
We get high, drink, snort coke, pop cialis and fuck all night then smoke weed to sleep it off.
I will then spend all next day hungover and posting about it on GB to keep myself amused while ordering Pizza or have Mcdonals or Burger King to get rid of hang over.
Day after the hangover is done, I will go gym and do same I did on Monday/Tuesday (good phase again).
Then come Friday or Saturday I will have another full retarded blowout. I average about 2 a week. Sometimes more. It all depends.
Pretty much sums up my life.
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This is usually how my week goes. I'll break it down for you.
Wake up around 11.00-12.00 midday. Shoot gear. Go do morning cardio empty stomach. 45min - 1 hour cross trainer.
Come home, eat chicken and veg or fish or chicken and steak. (I call this the the good phase)
Log into Betfair start laying my horses and do my sports bets for the day. Post on GB in between.
Go back to sleep around 5.00pm and nap for hour or so, sometimes il go to brothel and fuck a whore instead if I am super horny.
Wake up around 5.00pm hit gym.
Train Chest+Back on Monday, Shoulders + Arms Tuesday. Repeat. I'll do legs once a week or just skip em altogether.
Come home around 6.30pm have protein drink, bit of chicken and veg etc.
Get ready go casino around 8.00pm, play poker till around 3.00-4.00am.
Come home wank and sleep.
By around midweek (Wednesday) I am so physically and mentally fucked that I will have full retarded blowout. (the start of the bad phase)
I start drinking whiskey and snorting coke and usually some girls who want coke from me or escorts or general hoes will come over my house.
We get high, drink, snort coke, pop cialis and fuck all night then smoke weed to sleep it off.
I will then spend all next day hungover and posting about it on GB to keep myself amused while ordering Pizza or have Mcdonals or Burger King to get rid of hang over.
Day after the hangover is done, I will go gym and do same I did on Monday/Tuesday (good phase again).
Then come Friday or Saturday I will have another full retarded blowout. I average about 2 a week. Sometimes more. It all depends.
Pretty much sums up my life.
I have the solution to all your problems, just stop doing everything you posted above. You know what you have to do to get into shape. Do it.
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This is usually how my week goes. I'll break it down for you.
Wake up around 11.00-12.00 midday. Shoot gear. Go do morning cardio empty stomach. 45min - 1 hour cross trainer.
Come home, eat chicken and veg or fish or chicken and steak. (I call this the the good phase)
Log into Betfair start laying my horses and do my sports bets for the day. Post on GB in between.
Go back to sleep around 5.00pm and nap for hour or so, sometimes il go to brothel and fuck a whore instead if I am super horny.
Wake up around 5.00pm hit gym.
Train Chest+Back on Monday, Shoulders + Arms Tuesday. Repeat. I'll do legs once a week or just skip em altogether.
Come home around 6.30pm have protein drink, bit of chicken and veg etc.
Get ready go casino around 8.00pm, play poker till around 3.00-4.00am.
Come home wank and sleep.
By around midweek (Wednesday) I am so physically and mentally fucked that I will have full retarded blowout. (the start of the bad phase)
I start drinking whiskey and snorting coke and usually some girls who want coke from me or escorts or general hoes will come over my house.
We get high, drink, snort coke, pop cialis and fuck all night then smoke weed to sleep it off.
I will then spend all next day hungover and posting about it on GB to keep myself amused while ordering Pizza or have Mcdonals or Burger King to get rid of hang over.
Day after the hangover is done, I will go gym and do same I did on Monday/Tuesday (good phase again).
Then come Friday or Saturday I will have another full retarded blowout. I average about 2 a week. Sometimes more. It all depends.
Pretty much sums up my life.
You need to be more regimented. You are not Chris Cormier.
Morning cardio, done early morning, like 6am. Cut out that gambling, hookers, coke, etc.
if not, then do the gambling after you get your cardio and workouts done.
Chances are you munching on things between all of that, and chances are they are carbs.
You are basically killing your progress and wondering why you are not getting anywhere, so you up the dosage.
The chaotic lifestyle is not cohesive with a regimented lifestyle and will not help you in your endeavor. It will only hinder you, thus creating more frustration.
Might want to hit up Skorpio and see what he does, and try and emulate that.
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How bout some good 24-48 hr fasting joon?
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You need to be more regimented. You are not Chris Cormier.
Morning cardio, done early morning, like 6am. Cut out that gambling, hookers, coke, etc.
if not, then do the gambling after you get your cardio and workouts done.
Chances are you munching on things between all of that, and chances are they are carbs.
You are basically killing your progress and wondering why you are not getting anywhere, so you up the dosage.
The chaotic lifestyle is not cohesive with a regimented lifestyle and will not help you in your endeavor. It will only hinder you, thus creating more frustration.
Might want to hit up Skorpio and see what he does, and try and emulate that.
Very few people unless they are involved in being a professional gambler/poker pro will understand my world.
It's a very lucrative, highly volatile, mentally draining, earth shatteringly exhausting, soul crushing and emotionally lonely place with no fucking rhyme or reason.
You become basically a robot. That is the price you have to pay for the amount of money you earn.
You think you can just come home and "be normal" once you lose 100k in one night?????
You think you can just sleep if you win 100k in one night without buzzing ur tits off????
The adrenaline never lets you sleep. Win/lose its all the same process.
Constant thoughts/images, noises impregnate your mind, the next bet, the next pot, you have to make brain fucking decisions every 2 minutes for thousands of dollars.
I am not some personal trainer who can dedicate his whole time and energy to getting the best physique.
Last year I ended up 373k through gambling.
In 2009 I lost close to 2.6 million, had a nervous breakdown, became suicidal and wanted to kill myself.
I wouldn't change it for the world though. I love this lifestyle, its given me everything I dreamed of but nothing in life is for free, you have to pay one way or another.
I have to pay with my soul.
It's just the way it is.
In the words of Morrisey there is a light that never goes out, never fades away can never be switched off It's who I am. I am a gambler baby.
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This is usually how my week goes. I'll break it down for you.
Wake up around 11.00-12.00 midday. Shoot gear. Go do morning cardio empty stomach. 45min - 1 hour cross trainer.
Come home, eat chicken and veg or fish or chicken and steak. (I call this the the good phase)
Log into Betfair start laying my horses and do my sports bets for the day. Post on GB in between.
Go back to sleep around 5.00pm and nap for hour or so, sometimes il go to brothel and fuck a whore instead if I am super horny.
Wake up around 6.00pm hit gym.
Train Chest+Back on Monday, Shoulders + Arms Tuesday. Repeat. I'll do legs once a week or just skip em altogether.
Come home around 7.30pm have protein drink, bit of chicken and veg etc.
Get ready go casino around 8.00-9.00pm, play poker till around 3.00-4.00am. Sometimes if shit game il gamble online instead.
Come home wank and sleep.
By around midweek (Wednesday) I am so physically and mentally fucked that I will have full retarded blowout. (the start of the bad phase)
I start drinking whiskey and snorting coke and usually some girls who want either coke/weed from me or escorts or general hoes/skanks will come over my house.
We get high, drink, snort coke, pop cialis and fuck all night then smoke weed to sleep it off.
I will then spend all next day hungover and posting about it on GB to keep myself amused while ordering Pizza or have Mcdonals or Burger King to get rid of hang over.
Day after the hangover is done, I will go gym and do same I did on Monday/Tuesday (good phase again).
Then come Friday or Saturday I will have another full retarded blowout. I average about 2 a week. Sometimes more. It all depends.
Pretty much sums up my life.
thats fine bro, nothing wrong with that at all.
Just worried that you may have a heart attack.
from 35 onwards we are all walking heart attacks.
I remember you said you were going to get lipo (hi def) ....do it.
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Very few people unless they are involved in being a professional gambler/poker pro will understand my world.
It's a very lucrative, highly volatile, mentally draining, earth shatteringly exhausting, soul crushing and emotionally lonely place with no fucking rhyme or reason.
You become basically a robot. That is the price you have to pay for the amount of money you earn.
You think you can just come home and "be normal" once you lose 100k in one night?????
You think you can just sleep if you win 100k in one night without buzzing ur tits off????
The adrenaline never lets you sleep. Win/lose its all the same process.
Constant thoughts/images, noises impregnate your mind, the next bet, the next pot, you have to make brain fucking decisions every 2 minutes for thousands of dollars.
I am not some personal trainer who can dedicate his whole time and energy to getting the best physique.
Last year I ended up 373k through gambling.
In 2009 I lost close to 2.6 million, had a nervous breakdown, became suicidal and wanted to kill myself.
I wouldn't change it for the world though. I love this lifestyle, its given me everything I dreamed of but nothing in life is for free, you have to pay one way or another.
I have to pay with my soul.
G
It's just the way it is.
In the words of Morrisey there is a light that never goes out, never fades away can never be switched off It's who I am. I am a gambler baby.
Thing is, you just offered up an excuse. You just exist in a loop, and get high off of the gambling, drugs, hookers. And there are other things at play. In essence, you are very much like Tbombz, except you haven't gone Full Bunnysuit, yet. You've become accustomed and "need" all of this to function. But, it hinders you from actually accomplishing certain goals.
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Thing is, you just offered up an excuse. You just exist in a loop, and get high off of the gambling, drugs, hookers. And there are other things at play. In essence, you are very much like Tbombz, except you haven't gone Full Bunnysuit, yet. You've become accustomed and "need" all of this to function. But, it hinders you from actually accomplishing certain goals.
I was actually going to say the exact same thing earlier but I felt like I was being sucked into the same "Junior Vortex" and posting anything more in the thread was a waste of time.
But I agree, they both have a decent knowledge of bodybuilding but because of that short attention span too many other factors such as drugs, alcohol, poor diet, sexual lifestyle basically kills any goal they might have.
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"can't sleep if you win 100k in one night"...
Can you at least make your pretend stories believable???
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Very few people unless they are involved in being a professional gambler/poker pro will understand my world.
It's a very lucrative, highly volatile, mentally draining, earth shatteringly exhausting, soul crushing and emotionally lonely place with no fucking rhyme or reason.
You become basically a robot. That is the price you have to pay for the amount of money you earn.
You think you can just come home and "be normal" once you lose 100k in one night?????
You think you can just sleep if you win 100k in one night without buzzing ur tits off????
The adrenaline never lets you sleep. Win/lose its all the same process.
Constant thoughts/images, noises impregnate your mind, the next bet, the next pot, you have to make brain fucking decisions every 2 minutes for thousands of dollars.
I am not some personal trainer who can dedicate his whole time and energy to getting the best physique.
Last year I ended up 373k through gambling.
In 2009 I lost close to 2.6 million, had a nervous breakdown, became suicidal and wanted to kill myself.
I wouldn't change it for the world though. I love this lifestyle, its given me everything I dreamed of but nothing in life is for free, you have to pay one way or another.
I have to pay with my soul.
It's just the way it is.
In the words of Morrisey there is a light that never goes out, never fades away can never be switched off It's who I am. I am a gambler baby.
as fake as vince goodcum 's life.
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"Lyle McDonald" oh brother
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super low body fat isn't healthy.
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7.5
14 point caliper check, done by someone who does it for a living.
sorry you suck compared to me, but save the bitter comments. they just make you look petty
Sure you are sparky. 9-10% at best.. Which is great still. Especially for your age. You need to watch the video too about guy who is really 6%. But whatever you need to tell yourself to feel better there chief.
Posting pictures of vascular arms don't equate to 6-7 %. Take a look at your mid section. Compare it to someone actually 6-7 % and be honest with yourself. I'm not petty I'm a realist . Im in about the same shape as you and I'm not 6-7 %. My arms aren't as vascular but my waste and midsection is leaner. I'm also ten years younger... And again realistic.
Oh yeah and I'm clean lol.
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"can't sleep if you win 100k in one night"...
Can you at least make your pretend stories believable???
But then he wouldn't be Joon.
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But then he wouldn't be Joon.
Well... NOt like I come here for facts, so fair enough, lol!
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Yes but not has ripped or defined, Halo is sub 10 I am near 20 so its not exactly an achievement.
I am not sure why these morons think I am some 150lb twink.
I posted pic last year with tape measure (adonis posted em up recently) with 17 inch guns unmpumped.
Not sure why they would think I wouldn't get better in over year with double the doses?? ::)
No pics will be posted until May/June until I am around 12% or less and perfect. Not posting fatty off season pics.
Size is not the problem, conditioning is.
Mahyar Mostafaz (Mustafa)
Is that you pumped or unpumped?
The definition on you is just mindboggling.127-130% bf? I'm sure you must be on tons of gear here.
You are always in great shape,how you do it?
Can you enlighten us with your willpower of a success diet ,please?
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Groink just said in other thread he is 220lb at 7% bf which got me thinking about the maths of fat loss.
I am 220lb @ 17% right now that means I am carrying 37.4lb of extra fat? (220lb x 17% = 37.4lb)
Now say I want to be 8.5 % BF, that means I have to lose 18.7lb fat.
I figured this out by diving 17% by 2 which is 8.5%. (In other words 37.4lb divided by 2 = 18.7lb fat).
Now I understand in order to lose 18.7lb fat you will also lose muscle in that process dieting too.
But the question becomes in what ratio? I am just going to go ahead and assume I will lose 2lb muscle for every pound of fat I lose.
Therefore 18.7% Fat loss will mean 37lb muscle loss.
So therefore in order for me to be 8.5% bf I will have to lose altogether 55.7lb of weight altogether (18.7lb worth of fat & the 37lb of muscle resulting from dieting and cardio).
That means in order for me to be 8.5% bf I will need to weigh close to around 165 lb.
Lets explore further.
For every lb of weight lost you need to burn of or be in deficit 3500 calories.
Therefore, 55.7lb weight loss would need to create a 194, 950 calorie deficit in total.
This mean that if you create a 2k calories deficit a day it will take 94.4 day to lose (3.2 months) for me to be 8.5% BF @ 165lb.
(194,950 divided by 2)
Lets explore further.
Lets say my TDEE is 2700 calories a day. Lets say I do one hour cardio a day which burns 400 calories + one weight training session which burns 300 calories.
That's 700 calories burned there.
Now lets say I eat 1000 calories a day.
This means I have created 1700 calorie deficit, which is still 300 calories short of target of 2000 deficit so need to add in another cardio session.
So to conclude in order for me to be 8.5% BF @ 165lb in 3.2 months I would have to do 2 x one hour cardio sessions a day + one weight training session and eat no more than 1000 calories every single day for 3.2 months straight.
And that is a mutherfucking fact.
Your math doesn't take into account that intense cardio or weight training will elevate your metabolic rate for 6-8 hours after exercising.
If you don't know that, you really have no clue.
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thats fine bro, nothing wrong with that at all.
Just worried that you may have a heart attack.
from 35 onwards we are all walking heart attacks.
I remember you said you were going to get lipo (hi def) ....do it.
That might be the only solution,lipo!
Mahyar will never lose a pound ,except in gambling daddy's hard earned money
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Joon, take it easy, i am trolling you.
go on...
lol!
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"I have just done a bit of fat loss on meth - im fucking hopeless"
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"I have just done a bit of fat loss on meth - im fucking hopeless"
Hahahahaha!
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Hahahahaha!
I've heard that teeth can weigh quite a bit, too..
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daily meditation will help balance all this.
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daily meditation will help balance all this.
junior should give hot yoga a go as well.
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Sure you are sparky. 9-10% at best.. Which is great still. Especially for your age. You need to watch the video too about guy who is really 6%. But whatever you need to tell yourself to feel better there chief.
Posting pictures of vascular arms don't equate to 6-7 %. Take a look at your mid section. Compare it to someone actually 6-7 % and be honest with yourself. I'm not petty I'm a realist . Im in about the same shape as you and I'm not 6-7 %. My arms aren't as vascular but my waste and midsection is leaner. I'm also ten years younger... And again realistic.
Oh yeah and I'm clean lol.
that's fantastic
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"Maths"
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2014/12/08/math_versus_maths_how_americans_and_brits_deploy_the_collective_noun.html