I have just done a bit of maths on fat loss - its fucking hopeless.

[Uncle Joon]

remember when we chatted on the phone? hmmmmmm.

No I have no fucking idea who u are, I have never spoken to you unless you are someones gimmick who I have spoken with.

[mazrim]

I am just off season puffy. Maybe 17-20% BF.

That's kind of a contradiction to be honest. That's not "puffy". That's just a lot of bodyfat if you are actually that amount. Puffy=watery, etc.

[Quickerblade]

No I have no fucking idea who u are, I have never spoken to you unless you are someones gimmick who I have spoken with.

Joon, take it easy, i am trolling you.

go on...

[Uncle Joon]

Joon, take it easy, i am trolling you.

go on...

Haha, sorry dude just on a come down and pissy mood, il be fine next week. 

[Quickerblade]

Haha, sorry dude just on a come down and pissy mood, il be fine next week. 

all good, no hard feelings.

[Uncle Joon]

That's kind of a contradiction to be honest. That's not "puffy". That's just a lot of bodyfat if you are actually that amount. Puffy=watery, etc.

I am both fat and watery, that's what Deca, Test and D-Bol do to you, especially since I lower my AI cos it makes me feel shit.

Once I diet down, up AI and switch to dry stuff i will be 10 times better than what I was last year.

I was trying to put on serious size which I did, just not as much as I had hoped, that is all.

[Quickerblade]

Joon,

do you walk or run?

[ritch]

didn't read that mathematical mess (shit is over my dumb ass head anyway...) but man... Just fuckin' do it, stop with the overthinking, gonna bust a brain cell or something.

[Quickerblade]

didn't read that mathematical mess (shit is over my dumb ass head anyway...) but man... Just fuckin' do it, stop with the overthinking, gonna bust a brain cell or something.

The problem with Joon is that his methodical, he overthinks things. If the dude would stick to his goals for 30 days he would be awesome.

[Uncle Joon]

Joon,

do you walk or run?

Like you mean for cardio?

I used to like running and doing interval sprints when I was like 160-180 ish.

At 220 no fucking way I can run or do that shit anymore. Fucks my knees up and I gas quick.

I just do cross trainer for cardio, between 45 mins to hour as fast as I can without gassing and sometimes boxing bag.

Can't even skip no more, got like elephant feet

Like sex is 10 times harder too and so is tying up my shoe laces and shit.

Just feel heavy.

But I get loads more respect walking down road, like people know not to fuck with me

[Quickerblade]

Like you mean for cardio?

I used to like running and doing interval sprints when I was like 160-180 ish.

At 220 not fucking way I can run or do that shit. Fucks my knees up and I gas quick.

I just do cross trainer for cardio, between 45 mins to hour as fast as I can without gassing.

yes for cardio.

are you eating alot of junk food? not saying you do, but cardio cannot out do a bad diet.

[ritch]

The problem with Joon is that his methodical, he overthinks things. If the dude would stick to his goals for 30 days he would be awesome.

type of guy who needs to spend $600 on prep coach to take advice seriously or never follows it. Not saying it's a bad thing, just the reality here.

[Quickerblade]

type of guy who needs to spend $600 on prep coach to take advice seriously or never follows it. Not saying it's a bad thing, just the reality here.

Im sure he is fully aware of it, I know his a bright dude, but that poker lifestyle is overwhelming.

[Palpatine Q]

Groink is not 7% body fat lol. He's trolling you. Did you see the video and of the guy who is REALLY 6%?

7.5

14 point caliper check, done by someone who does it for a living.

sorry you suck compared to me, but save the bitter comments. they just make you look petty

[Parker]

The problem with Joon is that his methodical, he overthinks things. If the dude would stick to his goals for 30 days he would be awesome.

How can one "over think" and continually get the wrong answer? Unless, the person is not really thinking (and doing the right things) at all. Which means, he's not really thinking "correctly".
He just makes things more complicated, because he thinks that it should be. And there is a lack of focus, concentration.
There is a saying "It's easy to make something complicated, and harder to make something simple."

[Quickerblade]

How can one "over think" and continually get the wrong answer? Unless, the person is not really thinking (and doing the right things) at all. Which means, he's not really thinking "correctly".
He just makes things more complicated, because he thinks that it should be. And there is a lack of focus, concentration.
There is a saying "It's easy to make something complicated, and harder to make something simple.

Thank you.

[Uncle Joon]

yes for cardio.

are you eating alot of junk food? not saying you do, but cardio cannot out do a bad diet.

This is usually how my week goes. I'll break it down for you.

Wake up around 11.00-12.00 midday. Shoot gear. Go do morning cardio empty stomach. 45min - 1 hour cross trainer.
Come home, eat chicken and veg or fish or chicken and steak. (I call this the the good phase)

Log into Betfair start laying my horses and do my sports bets for the day. Post on GB in between.
Go back to sleep around 5.00pm and nap for hour or so, sometimes il go to brothel and fuck a whore instead if I am super horny.

Wake up around 6.00pm hit gym.
Train Chest+Back on Monday, Shoulders + Arms Tuesday. Repeat. I'll do legs once a week or just skip em altogether.
Come home around 7.30pm have protein drink, bit of chicken and veg etc.

Get ready go casino around 8.00-9.00pm, play poker till around 3.00-4.00am. Sometimes if shit game il gamble online instead.
Come home wank and sleep.

By around midweek (Wednesday) I am so physically and mentally fucked that I will have full retarded blowout. (the start of the bad phase)

I start drinking whiskey and snorting coke and usually some girls who want either coke/weed from me or escorts or general hoes/skanks will come over my house.
We get high, drink, snort coke, pop cialis and fuck all night then smoke weed to sleep it off.

I will then spend all next day hungover and posting about it on GB to keep myself amused while ordering Pizza or have Mcdonals or Burger King to get rid of hang over.

Day after the hangover is done, I will go gym and do same I did on Monday/Tuesday (good phase again).

Then come Friday or Saturday I will have another full retarded blowout. I average about 2 a week. Sometimes more. It all depends.

Pretty much sums up my life.

[TheShape.]

This is usually how my week goes. I'll break it down for you.

Wake up around 11.00-12.00 midday. Shoot gear. Go do morning cardio empty stomach. 45min - 1 hour cross trainer.
Come home, eat chicken and veg or fish or chicken and steak. (I call this the the good phase)

Log into Betfair start laying my horses and do my sports bets for the day. Post on GB in between.
Go back to sleep around 5.00pm and nap for hour or so, sometimes il go to brothel and fuck a whore instead if I am super horny.

Wake up around 5.00pm hit gym.
Train Chest+Back on Monday, Shoulders + Arms Tuesday. Repeat. I'll do legs once a week or just skip em altogether.
Come home around 6.30pm have protein drink, bit of chicken and veg etc.

Get ready go casino around 8.00pm, play poker till around 3.00-4.00am.
Come home wank and sleep.

By around midweek (Wednesday) I am so physically and mentally fucked that I will have full retarded blowout. (the start of the bad phase)

I start drinking whiskey and snorting coke and usually some girls who want coke from me or escorts or general hoes will come over my house.
We get high, drink, snort coke, pop cialis and fuck all night then smoke weed to sleep it off.

I will then spend all next day hungover and posting about it on GB to keep myself amused while ordering Pizza or have Mcdonals or Burger King to get rid of hang over.

Day after the hangover is done, I will go gym and do same I did on Monday/Tuesday (good phase again).

Then come Friday or Saturday I will have another full retarded blowout. I average about 2 a week. Sometimes more. It all depends.

Pretty much sums up my life.

I have the solution to all your problems, just stop doing everything you posted above. You know what you have to do to get into shape. Do it.

[Parker]

This is usually how my week goes. I'll break it down for you.

Wake up around 11.00-12.00 midday. Shoot gear. Go do morning cardio empty stomach. 45min - 1 hour cross trainer.
Come home, eat chicken and veg or fish or chicken and steak. (I call this the the good phase)

Log into Betfair start laying my horses and do my sports bets for the day. Post on GB in between.
Go back to sleep around 5.00pm and nap for hour or so, sometimes il go to brothel and fuck a whore instead if I am super horny.

Wake up around 5.00pm hit gym.
Train Chest+Back on Monday, Shoulders + Arms Tuesday. Repeat. I'll do legs once a week or just skip em altogether.
Come home around 6.30pm have protein drink, bit of chicken and veg etc.

Get ready go casino around 8.00pm, play poker till around 3.00-4.00am.
Come home wank and sleep.

By around midweek (Wednesday) I am so physically and mentally fucked that I will have full retarded blowout. (the start of the bad phase)

I start drinking whiskey and snorting coke and usually some girls who want coke from me or escorts or general hoes will come over my house.
We get high, drink, snort coke, pop cialis and fuck all night then smoke weed to sleep it off.

I will then spend all next day hungover and posting about it on GB to keep myself amused while ordering Pizza or have Mcdonals or Burger King to get rid of hang over.

Day after the hangover is done, I will go gym and do same I did on Monday/Tuesday (good phase again).

Then come Friday or Saturday I will have another full retarded blowout. I average about 2 a week. Sometimes more. It all depends.

Pretty much sums up my life.

You need to be more regimented. You are not Chris Cormier.
Morning cardio, done early morning, like 6am. Cut out that gambling, hookers, coke, etc.
if not, then do the gambling after you get your cardio and workouts done.
Chances are you munching on things between all of that, and chances are they are carbs.
You are basically killing your progress and wondering why you are not getting anywhere, so you up the dosage.
The chaotic lifestyle is not cohesive with a regimented lifestyle and will not help you in your endeavor. It will only hinder you, thus creating more frustration.

Might want to hit up Skorpio and see what he does, and try and emulate that.

[calfzilla]

How bout some good 24-48 hr fasting joon?

[Uncle Joon]

You need to be more regimented. You are not Chris Cormier.
Morning cardio, done early morning, like 6am. Cut out that gambling, hookers, coke, etc.
if not, then do the gambling after you get your cardio and workouts done.
Chances are you munching on things between all of that, and chances are they are carbs.
You are basically killing your progress and wondering why you are not getting anywhere, so you up the dosage.
The chaotic lifestyle is not cohesive with a regimented lifestyle and will not help you in your endeavor. It will only hinder you, thus creating more frustration.

Might want to hit up Skorpio and see what he does, and try and emulate that.

Very few people unless they are involved in being a professional gambler/poker pro will understand my world.
It's a very lucrative, highly volatile, mentally draining,  earth shatteringly exhausting, soul crushing and emotionally lonely place with no fucking rhyme or reason.
You become basically a robot. That is the price you have to pay for the amount of money you earn.

You think you can just come home and "be normal" once you lose 100k in one night??
You think you can just sleep if you win 100k in one night without buzzing ur tits off?

The adrenaline never lets you sleep. Win/lose its all the same process.
Constant thoughts/images, noises impregnate your mind, the next bet, the next pot, you have to make brain fucking decisions every 2 minutes for thousands of dollars.


I am not some personal trainer who can dedicate his whole time and energy to getting the best physique.

Last year I ended up 373k through gambling.

In 2009 I lost close to 2.6 million, had a nervous breakdown, became suicidal and wanted to kill myself.

I wouldn't change it for the world though. I love this lifestyle, its given me everything I dreamed of but nothing in life is for free, you have to pay one way or another.
I have to pay with my soul.

It's just the way it is.

In the words of Morrisey there is a light that never goes out, never fades away can never be switched off It's who I am. I am a gambler baby.

[Quickerblade]

This is usually how my week goes. I'll break it down for you.

Wake up around 11.00-12.00 midday. Shoot gear. Go do morning cardio empty stomach. 45min - 1 hour cross trainer.
Come home, eat chicken and veg or fish or chicken and steak. (I call this the the good phase)

Log into Betfair start laying my horses and do my sports bets for the day. Post on GB in between.
Go back to sleep around 5.00pm and nap for hour or so, sometimes il go to brothel and fuck a whore instead if I am super horny.

Wake up around 6.00pm hit gym.
Train Chest+Back on Monday, Shoulders + Arms Tuesday. Repeat. I'll do legs once a week or just skip em altogether.
Come home around 7.30pm have protein drink, bit of chicken and veg etc.

Get ready go casino around 8.00-9.00pm, play poker till around 3.00-4.00am. Sometimes if shit game il gamble online instead.
Come home wank and sleep.

By around midweek (Wednesday) I am so physically and mentally fucked that I will have full retarded blowout. (the start of the bad phase)

I start drinking whiskey and snorting coke and usually some girls who want either coke/weed from me or escorts or general hoes/skanks will come over my house.
We get high, drink, snort coke, pop cialis and fuck all night then smoke weed to sleep it off.

I will then spend all next day hungover and posting about it on GB to keep myself amused while ordering Pizza or have Mcdonals or Burger King to get rid of hang over.

Day after the hangover is done, I will go gym and do same I did on Monday/Tuesday (good phase again).

Then come Friday or Saturday I will have another full retarded blowout. I average about 2 a week. Sometimes more. It all depends.

Pretty much sums up my life.

thats fine bro, nothing wrong with that at all.

Just worried that you may have a heart attack.

from 35 onwards we are all walking heart attacks.
I remember you said you were going to get lipo (hi def) ....do it.

[Parker]

Very few people unless they are involved in being a professional gambler/poker pro will understand my world.
It's a very lucrative, highly volatile, mentally draining,  earth shatteringly exhausting, soul crushing and emotionally lonely place with no fucking rhyme or reason.
You become basically a robot. That is the price you have to pay for the amount of money you earn.

You think you can just come home and "be normal" once you lose 100k in one night??
You think you can just sleep if you win 100k in one night without buzzing ur tits off?

The adrenaline never lets you sleep. Win/lose its all the same process.
Constant thoughts/images, noises impregnate your mind, the next bet, the next pot, you have to make brain fucking decisions every 2 minutes for thousands of dollars.


I am not some personal trainer who can dedicate his whole time and energy to getting the best physique.

Last year I ended up 373k through gambling.

In 2009 I lost close to 2.6 million, had a nervous breakdown, became suicidal and wanted to kill myself.

I wouldn't change it for the world though. I love this lifestyle, its given me everything I dreamed of but nothing in life is for free, you have to pay one way or another.
I have to pay with my soul.
G
It's just the way it is.

In the words of Morrisey there is a light that never goes out, never fades away can never be switched off It's who I am. I am a gambler baby.

Thing is, you just offered up an excuse. You just exist in a loop, and get high off of the gambling, drugs, hookers. And there are other things at play. In essence, you are very much like Tbombz, except you haven't gone Full Bunnysuit, yet. You've become accustomed and "need" all of this to function. But, it hinders you from actually accomplishing certain goals.

[polychronopolous]

Thing is, you just offered up an excuse. You just exist in a loop, and get high off of the gambling, drugs, hookers. And there are other things at play. In essence, you are very much like Tbombz, except you haven't gone Full Bunnysuit, yet. You've become accustomed and "need" all of this to function. But, it hinders you from actually accomplishing certain goals.

I was actually going to say the exact same thing earlier but I felt like I was being sucked into the same "Junior Vortex" and posting anything more in the thread was a waste of time.

But I agree, they both have a decent knowledge of bodybuilding but because of that short attention span too many other factors such as drugs, alcohol, poor diet, sexual lifestyle basically kills any goal they might have.

[ritch]

"can't sleep if you win 100k in one night"...

Can you at least make your pretend stories believable???