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Title: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Wiggs on March 10, 2015, 01:23:28 PM
I gotta say after looking at his resume of 72 contests, 65 top 5 finishes 5 Arnold's and an Olympia certainly puts him as one of the greatest of all time. Especially since he competed in the the best era, the 90s/early 2000's. His consistency in conditioning should be considered the best the sport has ever seen. I don't recall any time he's been off. He's been bigger, smaller and sharper but never off. Consider he's done this over a span of 15 years in a sport that ruins people physically in half the time is pretty amazing. Is he Flex Wheeler? No, who is?  He's Dexter Jackson.  He did what Flex couldn't do.  Come in condition consistently. Dexter was able to do this. He is the King of this. And he was rewarded with what eluded Flex. An Olympia.  And now Dexter broke his record at the Arnold at age 45. I will admit Flex at his best is better than Dex at his best but how often have we seen Flex's best? Consistency and the ability to get in better condition counts.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: njflex on March 10, 2015, 01:31:35 PM
I gotta say after looking at his resume of 72 contests, 65 top 5 finishes 5 Arnold's and an Olympia certainly puts him as one of the greatest of all time. Especially since he competed in the the best era, the 90s/early 2000's. His consistency in conditioning should be considered the best the sport has ever seen. I don't recall any time he's been off. He's been bigger, smaller and sharper but never off. Consider he's done this over a span of 15 years in a sport that ruins people physically in half the time is pretty amazing. Is he Flex Wheeler? No, who is?  He's Dexter Jackson.  He did what Flex couldn't do.  Come in condition consistently. Dexter was able to do this. He is the King of this. And he was rewarded with what eluded Flex. An Olympia.  And now Dexter broke his record at the Arnold at age 45. I will admit Flex at his best is better than Dex at his best but how often have we seen Flex's best? Consistency and the ability to get in better condition counts.
THATS incredible,,considering his bodyweight has risen what 20/30 lbs from when he turned pro..how many shows has he won?v taylor/kev/wheeler/labrada won a lot due to grand prix tours /plus main shows.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Wiggs on March 10, 2015, 01:34:07 PM
THATS incredible,,considering his bodyweight has risen what 20/30 lbs from when he turned pro..how many shows has he won?v taylor/kev/wheeler/labrada won a lot due to grand prix tours /plus main shows.


Dexter has won 21 IFBB shows.  He came from being a bantameight.  That's fucking insane.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Boost on March 10, 2015, 01:36:38 PM
A better version of Shawn Ray  8)
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 10, 2015, 01:38:14 PM
This is exactly what I'm talking about , many consider Shawn Ray as one of the greatest ever and his accomplishments PALE in comparison to Dexters . Shawn was good at self-promotion Dex if anything is underrated

Dexter by virtue of the Olympia title alone makes him one of the greatest of all-time 
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: njflex on March 10, 2015, 01:38:33 PM

Dexter has won 21 IFBB shows.  He came from being a bantameight.  That's fucking insane.
I think those other guys won or close to 30 ,,v taylor had all those master titles too,,i knew he was a bantam but he turned pro as light heavy so 220/230 now that's pretty good without gaining uneeded weight /mass and getting ugly build..
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Wiggs on March 10, 2015, 01:41:53 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xaoa9w_mr-olympia-2009-dexter-jackson-zoru_sport


Damn. Looks awesome.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: BB on March 10, 2015, 01:47:30 PM
Dexter, I think will wind up like Zane and Haney when he retires. He'll be a bit lost in the shuffle, but when pointed out, you'll go "Damn" and wish you paid more attention and props to him when he was in the game. The thing that hurts him is that he really isn't that flashy, and he isn't a mass monster compared to some.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: michael arvilla on March 10, 2015, 01:48:56 PM
A legend and a Mr Olympia winner!
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Boost on March 10, 2015, 01:54:11 PM
 8)
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Wiggs on March 10, 2015, 01:58:20 PM
That second picture is of Dex is sick. That's probably one of the best pictures I've seen.
He probably doesnt read here anymore but he used to read Getbig.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Boost on March 10, 2015, 02:03:12 PM
Keep going!

Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: BDsauce on March 10, 2015, 02:09:16 PM
He stuck with the roids and it paid off...
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Leatherneck on March 10, 2015, 02:20:46 PM
Top 4 of his era behind Coleman, Heath and Cutler.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Wiggs on March 10, 2015, 02:22:07 PM
Top 4 of his era behind Coleman, Heath and Cutler.

I like this.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: goku on March 10, 2015, 02:53:47 PM
probably THE most underrated bodybuilder of all time.
ask any fan to name the best physiques ever and it goes - Ronnie, Dorian, Jay, Flex, Levrone, Haney, Arnie, Sergio.
after that its the likes of Shawn Ray, Dillet, Serge Nubret.
nobody ever says Dexter, it should be a fucking crime to leave his name out!
easily one of the best physiques ever.
also the guy who defied father time! 45 fucking years old and winning the Arnold classic comfortably. insane.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Boki on March 10, 2015, 02:57:23 PM
Few inches taller and he would be 12 time Mr Olympia.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: LittleJ on March 10, 2015, 02:57:56 PM
What is his stack?
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Wiggs on March 10, 2015, 02:59:04 PM
Few inches taller and he would be 12 time Mr Olympia.

I was just thinking, if he were 3 or 4 inches taller He'd be a multiple Mr. O.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: TestDummy on March 10, 2015, 03:04:48 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Z99ViZVPhg8/UJwDJJytASI/AAAAAAAABdo/ixstdAUd_fw/s1600/dexter-jackson02.jpg)

definitely one of the best! 
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: illuminati on March 10, 2015, 03:16:35 PM
Dexter is very underrated in this era.
Perhaps due to his 'lack of freakyness'.!!

He is the modern day Frank Zane type physique.
His record of shows & consistent conditioning is remarkable.

It was good he one the Arnold.
That said Cedric was poorly placed.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Danimal77 on March 10, 2015, 03:21:33 PM
I gotta say after looking at his resume of 72 contests, 65 top 5 finishes 5 Arnold's and an Olympia certainly puts him as one of the greatest of all time. Especially since he competed in the the best era, the 90s/early 2000's. His consistency in conditioning should be considered the best the sport has ever seen. I don't recall any time he's been off. He's been bigger, smaller and sharper but never off. Consider he's done this over a span of 15 years in a sport that ruins people physically in half the time is pretty amazing. Is he Flex Wheeler? No, who is?  He's Dexter Jackson.  He did what Flex couldn't do.  Come in condition consistently. Dexter was able to do this. He is the King of this. And he was rewarded with what eluded Flex. An Olympia.  And now Dexter broke his record at the Arnold at age 45. I will admit Flex at his best is better than Dex at his best but how often have we seen Flex's best? Consistency and the ability to get in better condition counts.

A small, slightly above average guy that scored well due only to the abysmal level of competitors he had to face all these years. Had he competed in the 1990's, he would have been a 2nd, or 3rd tier guy, barely cracking the top 10.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: illuminati on March 10, 2015, 03:31:04 PM
A small, slightly above average guy that scored well due only to the abysmal level of competitors he had to face all these years. Had he competed in the 1990's, he would have been a 2nd, or 3rd tier guy, barely cracking the top 10.













You are probably correct in most of what you said.
Definitely would of been a different ball game for him in the 90's.

Though it's not his fault the standard is so poor recently.
He does turn up in shape & bring his best.
It up to the others to bring their best.
Quite frequently they don't, so we're left with Dexter as the winner.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: polychronopolous on March 10, 2015, 03:31:42 PM
Maybe around like top 15 all time.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Parker on March 10, 2015, 03:42:03 PM
Dexter, I think will wind up like Zane and Haney when he retires. He'll be a bit lost in the shuffle, but when pointed out, you'll go "Damn" and wish you paid more attention and props to him when he was in the game. The thing that hurts him is that he really isn't that flashy, and he isn't a mass monster compared to some.
This x1000.
He reminds me more like Vince Taylor...consistent, quiet. Under-rated.
And of course, still in shape when others his age have falling apart.

I think he also shows that playing the size game doesn't work in the end. Those who have done that either have really torn muscles, dead, or in bad shape health wise.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: BB on March 10, 2015, 03:44:18 PM
I'm not so sure about about the weak era argument with Dexter. Is it helping him continue his reign? Yes. But he still had a very solid record in the early 2000's when there was still some very strong competition -

http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?a=Jackson,+Dexter .
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 10, 2015, 03:50:00 PM

 That's fucking insane.


Religious & swearing  :o
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Royalty on March 10, 2015, 04:09:18 PM
Dexter is kinda like Yates.... very good, but kinda boring.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on March 10, 2015, 04:41:32 PM
Dexter is kinda like Yates.... very good, but kinda boring.

I would say like Chris Cormier , he gets's that a lot
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: old-school-lifter on March 10, 2015, 04:45:13 PM
no doubts one of the greats

longevity, consistency, major titles x5 and the Olympia

amazing
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: MORTALCOIL on March 10, 2015, 04:55:36 PM
This x1000.
He reminds me more like Vince Taylor...consistent, quiet. Under-rated.
And of course, still in shape when others his age have falling apart.

I think he also shows that playing the size game doesn't work in the end. Those who have done that either have really torn muscles, dead, or in bad shape health wise.

More complete than Taylor was and even more consistent. I don't buy the "competed in a weak era" argument. Sure, competition was stiffer in the 90's but if any Bber from the last decade could have competed with the 90's field, it's Dex if only for conditioning. Heath, Cutler, even at their best never had the balance/conditioning combo that was still the standard in the 90's. Apart from calves, Dex has no weaknesses and his structure is better than most's, Shawn Ray included. Let's not even talk about Heath or Kai.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
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Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Bevo on March 10, 2015, 07:13:06 PM
I've asked Dexter that question about "how does it feel to be always left out of the conversation of favorites to win a show?"

His reply was he doesn't know either, and laughed but said that's why he's killing everyone on conditioning and shape

He's never the favorite from fans, people would always pick Evan, Cedric, even brandon curry to win a show before Dexter. Like this yrs arnold everyone saying Compton  ::)
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: That_Dude on March 10, 2015, 07:54:17 PM
When people look back years from now at the last decade of bodybuilding dexter will stand out as the best quality physique in an era of bloated guts and seo. He is one of the greatest of all time.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: ritch on March 10, 2015, 09:27:20 PM
When people look back years from now at the last decade of bodybuilding dexter will stand out as the best quality physique in an era of bloated guts and seo. He is one of the greatest of all time.

Very well said.

Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: rudylrichards on March 10, 2015, 10:10:01 PM
Maybe around like top 15 all time.
Agree, would you put him ahead of Flex & Kevin or after? Don't think he ever beat them head to head, but he won a lot more shows including the O & a much longer career
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on March 10, 2015, 10:13:59 PM
He's like Cormier...one of the best, but "boring" because he's flawlessly balanced, no strengths or weakness, just perfect as is, so he gets looked over.

(Even though cormiers physique bores me) no homo
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: mayan on March 10, 2015, 11:21:37 PM
Higher than top 15.   He is the most symmetrical bodybuilder to ever step on stage.  He also grew proportionately and perfectly, and his conditioning more consistent than any other pro...always detail in the serratus and lower back...top 10 for sure.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: muscleman-2013 on March 10, 2015, 11:26:56 PM
He's like Cormier...one of the best, but "boring" because he's flawlessly balanced, no strengths or weakness, just perfect as is, so he gets looked over.

(Even though cormiers physique bores me) no homo

Dexter has a funky looking mid section.  Not perfect at all.  From his hips up to his rib cage he tapers INWARDS which is the opposite of a v taper.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Bevo on March 10, 2015, 11:27:05 PM
Agree, would you put him ahead of Flex & Kevin or after? Don't think he ever beat them head to head, but he won a lot more shows including the O & a much longer career

He's already beaten kevin head to head 03 mr O
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Bevo on March 10, 2015, 11:30:03 PM
He's like Cormier...one of the best, but "boring" because he's flawlessly balanced, no strengths or weakness, just perfect as is, so he gets looked over.

(Even though cormiers physique bores me) no homo

Cormier has the better physique in terms of just physique but bbing contests of course Dexter is ahead

Cormier should have won the 04 and 05 Arnold over Jay and Dexter

His physique and structure is better plus he's 5'10 and can carry mass yet still pull off a vacuum and no gut, not bad for a hard core rec drug user of X, coke, nubain, etc..  ;D
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Parker on March 10, 2015, 11:30:32 PM
Dexter has a funky looking mid section.  Not perfect at all.  From his hips up to his rib cage he tapers INWARDS which is the opposite of a v taper.
illusion of the shape of his abs.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: TRIX on March 11, 2015, 12:23:08 AM
how he will be remembered

(http://www.demotivationalposters.net/image/demotivational-poster/small/1011/raphael-pretty-ripped-for-a-tmnt-demotivational-poster-1289531100.jpg)
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: njflex on March 11, 2015, 05:02:23 AM
HIS MOST MUSCULAR IS SICK'CRAB SHOT'.EVERYTHING POPS..CUTLER LOOKS TERRIBLE IN THAT POSE...
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Pet shop boys on March 11, 2015, 05:46:44 AM
Top 4 of his era behind Coleman, Heath and Cutler.


Qft.


Wooossshhhhh
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Big Chiro Flex on March 11, 2015, 08:01:51 PM
Dexter has a funky looking mid section.  Not perfect at all.  From his hips up to his rib cage he tapers INWARDS which is the opposite of a v taper.

Yes Dexter has a reverse V taper.










 ::)
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: bentone on March 12, 2015, 11:20:57 AM
Dexter is easily one of the greatest bodybuilders ever. Near perfect symmetry, ALWAYS conditioned, full round muscle bellies and a consistent winning record. Dexter is super underrated and a threat for the win at any show he enters.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: njflex on March 12, 2015, 11:23:34 AM
Dexter is easily one of the greatest bodybuilders ever. Near perfect symmetry, ALWAYS conditioned, full round muscle bellies and a consistent winning record. Dexter is super underrated and a threat for the win at any show he enters.
pretty much spot on,,,
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: LurkerNoMore on March 12, 2015, 11:48:32 AM
Dex is probably one of the very few pros that could actually win his pro card again with his current shape.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: njflex on March 12, 2015, 11:52:07 AM
Dex is probably one of the very few pros that could actually win his pro card again with his current shape.
YEAH,NO DOUBT..
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Parker on March 12, 2015, 11:56:03 AM
I'm not so sure about about the weak era argument with Dexter. Is it helping him continue his reign? Yes. But he still had a very solid record in the early 2000's when there was still some very strong competition -

http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?a=Jackson,+Dexter .
Dexter is a 90s product. So is Toney Freeman. Even though Toney got his pro card in the 2000s. Toney had been trying for years in the 90s.
And guess what? Those two don't have "guts" (yes there are pics of Dex having some "over hang"). If you look at the guys who got their pro cards in the mid late 90s---Jay, DJ, Melvin Anthony, Dex, they all had a certain quality of muscle to them. Something Compton and company will never have.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: njflex on March 12, 2015, 12:05:18 PM
Dexter is a 90s product. So is Toney Freeman. Even though Toney got his pro card in the 2000s. Toney had been trying for years in the 90s.
And guess what? Those two don't have "guts" (yes there are pics of Dex having some "over hang"). If you look at the guys who got their pro cards in the mid late 90s---Jay, DJ, Melvin Anthony, Dex, they all had a certain quality of muscle to them. Something Compton and company will never have.
OUT OF ALL OF THEM JAY SUPRISED ME ALWAYS GOOD FLAT WAIST'WIDE 'BUT NEVER HUNG OVER ROUNDED BLOATED .
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Parker on March 12, 2015, 12:21:11 PM
OUT OF ALL OF THEM JAY SUPRISED ME ALWAYS GOOD FLAT WAIST'WIDE 'BUT NEVER HUNG OVER ROUNDED BLOATED .
yep, but the handwriting was on the wall with Jay..
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: njflex on March 12, 2015, 12:25:10 PM
yep, but the handwriting was on the wall with Jay..
Ronnie doesn't give up holding size,it's easier for a dex type to stay lean/big for there frame cause they max out and stay on there usual cycles,guys like jay who get so big and bigger as time goes on harder to stay that big getting older and trying to run crazy cycles.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: andreisdaman on March 12, 2015, 12:26:07 PM
definitely one of the best ever...without question.....and yes he competed in the toughest era which as the 1990's to early 2000's.....and he keeps winning even today due to the guys of today not having the muscle maturity that Dexter has..also due to having the distended bellies as well
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: funk51 on March 12, 2015, 12:37:42 PM
 ;D   cracks the top 10 all-time.......till the next mutation... ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: Bevo on March 12, 2015, 02:19:18 PM
Dexter is a 90s product. So is Toney Freeman. Even though Toney got his pro card in the 2000s. Toney had been trying for years in the 90s.
And guess what? Those two don't have "guts" (yes there are pics of Dex having some "over hang"). If you look at the guys who got their pro cards in the mid late 90s---Jay, DJ, Melvin Anthony, Dex, they all had a certain quality of muscle to them. Something Compton and company will never have.


Melvin is highly overrated
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: thegamechanger on March 12, 2015, 05:52:35 PM
i will always look down on dexter no matter what he accomplish.

he's just that much shorter.
Title: Re: If Dexter retired today, how would he be looked at in bodybuilding?
Post by: DroppingPlates on March 12, 2015, 06:02:27 PM
I have a great respect for him as a bodybuilder, and he became a nice person as well.