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Title: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 22, 2015, 03:54:33 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/03/22/lok-nadeau-pope-naples.cnn
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 22, 2015, 04:05:37 PM
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/03/22/lok-nadeau-pope-naples.cnn

o, fuck R.Harringtony is back  ::)

What fucking problems  ???, I don't watch TV news anymore  8)
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: The Scott on March 22, 2015, 04:39:33 PM
The gods help those that help themselves. -  Aesop's Fables.

Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 22, 2015, 04:42:56 PM
We need to focus less on what the jews and moslems are doing and more on what we Christians are doing. That is the solution
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Carlton G. Long on March 22, 2015, 04:46:03 PM
We need to focus less on what the jews and moslems are doing and more on what we Christians are doing. That is the solution

amen
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: The Scott on March 22, 2015, 04:51:16 PM
We need to focus less on what the jews and moslems are doing and more on what we Christians are doing. That is the solution

I think it more a matter of what we are not doing.  What we refuse to do. Jew, Christian and Atheist.  We.  Americans.  All of us. 

As Aesop said, the gods help those that help themselves.  If the ancient Greeks were aware of this, how much more so modern man?

Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: wes on March 22, 2015, 04:55:48 PM
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Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 22, 2015, 08:19:44 PM
We need to focus less on what the jews and moslems are doing and more on what we Christians are doing. That is the solution

I like Mr.Devil & Lord Satan  ;D
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: SF1900 on March 22, 2015, 08:23:58 PM
Look at all the Christians who go to church on Sunday, yet Monday-Saturday have affairs, lie, cheat, steal, greedy, and are total pricks, etc. I am not saying this is exclusively a Christian thing, because most people (atheist, jewish, muslim, etc) are like that.

It all really comes down to a lack of a humanity, and everyone lacks it, religious and nonreligious, white and black and spanish and asian, etc.

Everyone has lost their way.

The world is going to shit.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: scottt on March 22, 2015, 08:24:53 PM
New Living Translation
Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. 2 Corinthians 4:4
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: SF1900 on March 22, 2015, 08:26:16 PM
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: IrishMuscle84 on March 22, 2015, 08:26:46 PM
New Living Translation
Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. 2 Corinthians 4:4
AMEN.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Radical Plato on March 22, 2015, 10:29:06 PM
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Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Radical Plato on March 22, 2015, 10:30:29 PM
Look at all the Christians who go to church on Sunday, yet Monday-Saturday have affairs, lie, cheat, steal, greedy, and are total pricks, etc. I am not saying this is exclusively a Christian thing, because most people (atheist, jewish, muslim, etc) are like that.

It all really comes down to a lack of a humanity, and everyone lacks it, religious and nonreligious, white and black and spanish and asian, etc.

Everyone has lost their way.

The world is going to shit.
Yeah, but the theists are worse, as they put up a pretense of righteousness and holiness, making their inhumanity even more depraved and intolerable.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: trapz101 on March 23, 2015, 01:26:43 AM
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god is dead?
newsflash...god never exists..
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 01:39:16 AM
Christians have officially abandoned their brothers and sisters. Where are they as so many get slaughtered in Muslim countries? Not a peep not a word just on some message boards telling other fellow Christians to do something.

You guys claim to follow in the footsteps on Jesus? Have you read the Bible lately at all, would Jesus also sit on his behind as his people got beheaded?

Then you got the pope lol, wtf is going on there! Instead of supporting Israel he now became this liberal pro radical islam traitor.

Amazing

Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 23, 2015, 01:53:26 AM
New Living Translation
Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. 2 Corinthians 4:4

Great news , Satan is VICTORIOUS  ;)
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Radical Plato on March 23, 2015, 01:57:07 AM
god is dead?
newsflash...god never exists..
Nietzsche is talking about the god that man has created, he isn't talking as if God ever really existed.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 01:58:27 AM
Christians have officially abandoned their brothers and sisters. Where are they as so many get slaughtered in Muslim countries? Not a peep not a word just on some message boards telling other fellow Christians to do something.

You guys claim to follow in the footsteps on Jesus? Have you read the Bible lately at all, would Jesus also sit on his behind as his people got beheaded?

Then you got the pope lol, wtf is going on there! Instead of supporting Israel he now became this liberal pro radical islam traitor.

Amazing



christiaity is almost dead. True believers, heart and soul, are almost none existant. Christians are the most persecuted people on the planet today. But then again there's so many insane fake christians out there, especially the pope and the entire vatican, that people just prefers not to give a shit about any christian.

in my country, 100 out of 100 people who belong to church and pay taxes for it does not believe in god one bit.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Teutonic Knight on March 23, 2015, 01:59:50 AM
Christians have officially abandoned their brothers and sisters. Where are they as so many get slaughtered in Muslim countries? Not a peep not a word just on some message boards telling other fellow Christians to do something.

You guys claim to follow in the footsteps on Jesus? Have you read the Bible lately at all, would Jesus also sit on his behind as his people got beheaded?

Then you got the pope lol, wtf is going on there! Instead of supporting Israel he now became this liberal pro radical islam traitor.

Amazing



I read Nazi books only & support PEGIDA , so  :)
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: BigRo on March 23, 2015, 02:53:16 AM
raising of conciousness is needed, this so called good news belongs to a lower station of awareness.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: SuperTed on March 23, 2015, 03:19:32 AM
christiaity is almost dead. True believers, heart and soul, are almost none existant. Christians are the most persecuted people on the planet today. But then again there's so many insane fake christians out there, especially the pope and the entire vatican, that people just prefers not to give a shit about any christian.

in my country, 100 out of 100 people who belong to church and pay taxes for it does not believe in god one bit.

Christianity is dead in Western Europe, at least among the native population. I would probably now refer to Western Europe as being a Post-Christian society.
Incidentally, I partly blame the decline of Christianity in Europe as the reason why the Islamic faith has managed to gain a strong foothold in these nations.
However, I think Christian beliefs are still quite strong in numerous other parts of the planet, such as Latin America, Africa and Eastern Europe so to say its “dead”, isn’t strictly true.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 04:35:59 AM
Christianity is dead in Western Europe, at least among the native population. I would probably now refer to Western Europe as being a Post-Christian society.
Incidentally, I partly blame the decline of Christianity in Europe as the reason why the Islamic faith has managed to gain a strong foothold in these nations.
However, I think Christian beliefs are still quite strong in numerous other parts of the planet, such as Latin America, Africa and Eastern Europe so to say its “dead”, isn’t strictly true.

I can agree with that. It's like europe's governments adopted the understanding and let people live policies from the bible, and denied any attempt for balance. Generation self hate.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: OlympiaGym on March 23, 2015, 05:27:38 AM
Christians have officially abandoned their brothers and sisters. Where are they as so many get slaughtered in Muslim countries? Not a peep not a word just on some message boards telling other fellow Christians to do something.

You guys claim to follow in the footsteps on Jesus? Have you read the Bible lately at all, would Jesus also sit on his behind as his people got beheaded?

Then you got the pope lol, wtf is going on there! Instead of supporting Israel he now became this liberal pro radical islam traitor.

Amazing



The Pope is not a "pro radical Islam traitor" u arrogant a-hole. no wonder throughout history nobody has liked your kind
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 05:41:38 AM
The Pope is not a "pro radical Islam traitor" u arrogant a-hole. no wonder throughout history nobody has liked your kind

So my comment now reflects the feelings of "my kind" hahahaaa my comment is based on what long time followers of the church are saying, my kind has no clue wtf the pope is upto
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: IronMeister on March 23, 2015, 05:46:46 AM
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: devilsmile on March 23, 2015, 05:58:36 AM


that performance earned his place as a waitress in bohemian grove  8)
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Man of Steel on March 23, 2015, 06:26:57 AM
Name "Jesus" in thread title.....obligation post completed......none of thread read.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: muscularny on March 23, 2015, 07:35:02 AM
Name "Jesus" in thread title.....obligation post completed......none of thread read.
You know superstition and idolatry according to the bible is one of the same, right?
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Natural Man on March 23, 2015, 07:38:58 AM
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the father of anti natalism.

Wanted to create a superior man, ended catatonic.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Natural Man on March 23, 2015, 07:42:00 AM
Yeah, but the theists are worse, as they put up a pretense of righteousness and holiness, making their inhumanity even more depraved and intolerable.
can we all agree that we re just animals randomly and blindly fighting in vain for limited resources until there are none anymore, whatever we pretend to "believe" in ?
We re just a branch of evolution that s going nowhere. Nothing less, nothing more.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: King Shizzo on March 23, 2015, 07:47:50 AM
Name "Jesus" in thread title.....obligation post completed......none of thread read.
Jesus wouldn't have given up MOS.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2015, 07:56:18 AM
christiaity is almost dead. True believers, heart and soul, are almost none existant. Christians are the most persecuted people on the planet today. But then again there's so many insane fake christians out there, especially the pope and the entire vatican, that people just prefers not to give a shit about any christian.

in my country, 100 out of 100 people who belong to church and pay taxes for it does not believe in god one bit.


I'd say 1 out of 1000 in the US actually believe in their god enough to study the book this god allegedly supplied, and live by Jesus' teachings. I may be generous in that ratio.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Man of Steel on March 23, 2015, 01:55:51 PM

I'd say 1 out of 1000 in the US actually believe in their god enough to study the book this god allegedly supplied, and live by Jesus' teachings. I may be generous in that ratio.

LOL, you may be correct!    And that's pretty sad.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2015, 03:19:04 PM
LOL, you may be correct!    And that's pretty sad.

Yeah it kinda pisses me off sometimes... Someone will find out I'm Agnostic and start in on me.. come to find out they know less about their bible than I do ... seriously? And you're tell me I gotta believe like you do?  ::)
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: scottt on March 23, 2015, 03:51:02 PM
Great news , Satan is VICTORIOUS  ;)
look at your post count lol
He wont rule forever though. His time is short.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Agnostic007 on March 23, 2015, 03:54:05 PM
look at your post count lol
He wont rule forever though. His time is short.

Thank god he can't read, or he would know the game plan
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: scottt on March 23, 2015, 04:05:21 PM
New Living Translation
Therefore, rejoice, O heavens! And you who live in the heavens, rejoice! But terror will come on the earth and the sea, for the devil has come down to you in great anger, knowing that he has little time."Revelation12:12
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: SF1900 on May 13, 2015, 09:03:41 AM
Most people only believe in a God in order to avoid going to hell (if hell actually exists). You see all these people with tattoos of JC, religious sayings, praying when they need help, etc. Yet, ask them when was the last time they picked up the bible, and they stare blankly. Most of them can probably barely read.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Man of Steel on May 13, 2015, 11:41:55 AM
Most people only believe in a God in order to avoid going to hell (if hell actually exists). You see all these people with tattoos of JC, religious sayings, praying when they need help, etc. Yet, ask them when was the last time they picked up the bible, and they stare blankly. Most of them can probably barely read.

This is true.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: SF1900 on May 13, 2015, 01:09:01 PM
This is true.

There is a church down the block from me. Every time I drive passed it Sunday morning to head to the gym, I see droves of people coming out of the doors. I often wonder how many people actually lead a good life. Will they go to heaven just because they go to church? Or will they be banished to hell, MOS?
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: scottt on May 13, 2015, 01:26:33 PM
They must believe in their heart and confess with there mouth. You can go to church everyday or never go to church it makes little difference. Reading the Bible is for strengthening your faith. You should pray to GOD as you would speak to your father and in private.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: SF1900 on May 13, 2015, 02:23:52 PM
They must believe in their heart and confess with there mouth. You can go to church everyday or never go to church it makes little difference. Reading the Bible is for strengthening your faith. You should pray to GOD as you would speak to your father and in private.

What about people who have afflictions that forbid them to accept Jesus Christ/God into their life? For example, people with severe mental illness (schizophrenia) or other people with mental disabilities (down syndrome, mental retardation, autism, etc.). Many of these people do not have the cognitive capability to ponder or accept the idea of a God/Jesus Christ. Many of them have the mental state of 4 year old. Or what about the person who has down syndrome or mental retardation and murders someone, because they do not have the cognitive capability to judge right from wrong? Will they be banished to Hell? Does it say anywhere in the bible that these people are precluded from believing in God and will stay get to heaven? Or has Christianity not done a very good job of addressing this dilemma? Or do they just assume this population will go to Heaven?
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: scottt on May 13, 2015, 02:57:10 PM
Romans 5:12
 12  That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned. 13  For sin was in the world before the Law, but sin is not charged against anyone when there is no law. 14  Nevertheless, death ruled as king from Adam down to Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the same way that Adam transgressed,  who bears a resemblance to the one who was to come.   

 In verse 13 it talks about the law, it is explained in

Jeremiah 31:33
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people               
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: SF1900 on May 13, 2015, 03:18:23 PM
Romans 5:12
 12  That is why, just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned. 13  For sin was in the world before the Law, but sin is not charged against anyone when there is no law. 14  Nevertheless, death ruled as king from Adam down to Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the same way that Adam transgressed,  who bears a resemblance to the one who was to come.   

 In verse 13 it talks about the law, it is explained in

Jeremiah 31:33
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people               

Okay, now translate that for me in "plain" english to answer my question. Thanks.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: scottt on May 13, 2015, 03:21:25 PM
I am sorry you cant understand. It is in plain English. Try reading it again.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: SF1900 on May 13, 2015, 03:58:15 PM
I am sorry you cant understand. It is in plain English. Try reading it again.

Real Christ-like response from you.  ::) ::) Do you think JC would have said to me, "Its in plain english. Read it again?" Or do you think he would have taken the time to explain it to someone who was interested with an open heart? I am sure JC would love the way you are spreading the gospel. Great attitude by a Christian.  :D :D Typical of the lot of you.  :D :D

Furthermore, those verses just sound like a bunch of shit put together that explains very little. Very good sophistry.  :D :D But it still doesn't answer my question.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: scottt on May 13, 2015, 04:13:57 PM
I don't think he would have wasted his time. Your heart is clearly not a receptive one.
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: SF1900 on May 13, 2015, 04:45:56 PM
I don't think he would have wasted his time. Your heart is clearly not a receptive one.

lol. Sure. I have a feeling Jesus Christ would open his heart to anyone in pain or need, even nonbelievers. After all, that is the Christian way, right? Acceptance of everyone? No? Or would JC shut people out? Hmmm, doesn't sound very Christ-like.

I have a feeling you have not read your bible. Or you're a typical hypocritical Christian, like most of them. Thanks for proving it.  :D :D
Title: Re: Only Jesus Can Save Us From The World's Problems ...
Post by: Radical Plato on May 13, 2015, 06:09:08 PM
the father of anti natalism.

Wanted to create a superior man, ended catatonic.
Better than Jesus's fate, he also promoted the idea of the superior man.