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It's time to shave those 3 hairs off of your chin that you call a beard and take a shower because when Trump gets elected you are gonna have to go get a job as the Obama gravy train of free shit will be coming to an end!
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Fuck, that sucks. >:(
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It's time to shave those 3 hairs off of your chin that you call a beard and take a shower because when Cruz gets elected you are gonna have to go get a job as the Obama gravy train of free shit will be coming to and end!
LOL... It's doesn't matter whom is elected, the "show" will go on.
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LOL... It's doesn't matter whom is elected, the "show" will go on.
Yup
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LOL... It's doesn't matter whom is elected, the "show" will go on.
Gonna have to +1 Wiggsy here.
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LOL... It's doesn't matter whom is elected, the "show" will go on.
Oh Really? The natives are getting restless...
We all see it. The failed joke that is today's "leadership".
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LOL... It's doesn't matter whom is elected, the "show" will go on.
Yes.
lol at republicans who think if there is a republican president things will be much different. It will be the same old shit that it always is. Nothing will change.
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It's time to shave those 3 hairs off of your chin that you call a beard and take a shower because when Ted Cruz gets elected you are gonna have to go get a job as the Obama gravy train of free shit will be coming to and end!
no one gives out more free shit than the Republicans....only they give it to the rich
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It's time to shave those 3 hairs off of your chin that you call a beard
everyone has a beard these days. It's getting annoying now.
Ted Cruz' first act as POTUS... sign an executive order that unless you work as a lumberjack or are over the age of 50, no beards.
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Ted's wife works for Goldman Sachs.
This is all you need to know.
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LOL... It's doesn't matter whom is elected, the "show" will go on.
x2...money always wins
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Ted's wife works for Goldman Sachs.
This is all you need to know.
case in point to my previous post
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It's time to shave those 3 hairs off of your chin that you call a beard and take a shower because when Ted Cruz gets elected you are gonna have to go get a job as the Obama gravy train of free shit will be coming to an end!
i suppose if a kenyan can become president so can a canadian ::)
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Yes.
lol at republicans who think if there is a republican president things will be much different. It will be the same old shit that it always is. Nothing will change.
So true. Its like voting for a class president in HighschoolS. "I will make lunches 5 minutes longer!!! Vote for me"
Lol
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hotdog eating contest
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So true. Its like voting for a class president in HighschoolS. "I will make lunches 5 minutes longer!!! Vote for me"
Lol
Yes. No politician has ever passed any law or policy that drastically changed my life or helped me in any way. I though politicians were supposed to be "For the People." Even when Bush was in office, nothing he did helped out me or anyone I knew. Obviously, they arent suppose to give me a job or help me graduate school. However, they are supposed to pass laws and policies that benefit humanity. Nope. Nothing.
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LOL... It's doesn't matter whom is elected, the "show" will go on.
Well, for the last 61/2 years it's been a one "man" show and we see what a fucking disaster that's turning out to be.
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Well, for the last 61/2 years it's been a one "man" show and we see what a fucking disaster that's turning out to be.
one man because the republicans wouldn't work with him and tried to destroy him personally and politically
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one man because the republicans wouldn't work with him and tried to destroy him personally and politically
Since January? LOL....try again minion.
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everyone has a beard these days. It's getting annoying now.
Ted Cruz' first act as POTUS... sign an executive order that unless you work as a lumberjack or are over the age of 50, no beards.
At minumum outlaw Neckbeards
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The lazy ass libs know what will be happening to them if Cruz gets elected, it is bye bye free stuff, bye bye obamaphone, obamacare, fraudulent disability payments and etc,, and most of the libs are just lazy p.o.s. who don't want to go get a job, so they are working overtime to smear Cruz.
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The lazy ass libs know what will be happening to them if Cruz gets elected, it is bye bye free stuff, bye bye obamaphone, obamacare, fraudulent disability payments and etc,, and most of the libs are just lazy p.o.s. who don't want to go get a job, so they are working overtime to smear Cruz.
sigh.................... ........................ ......The free phone program was started by Clinton...and then Bush extended it to cell phones.....why are you and other conservatives always trying to call it an Obamaphone>???......fraudulent disability payments have been going on for years....everybody in the mafia gets it///why are you blaming Obama and liberals for that?.....Obamacare will save us a lot of money in terms of catching diseases early and stopping people from constantly going to the emergency room....as a matte of fact DOCTORS VISITS ARE WAY DOWN UNDER OBAMACARE
get the facts and stop ranting
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Ted's wife works for Goldman Sachs.
This is all you need to know.
Yes - she's a managing director for the world's top investment bank. Tells me she's very smart, ambitious, and makes lots of money.
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Yes - she's a managing director for the world's top investment bank. Tells me she's very smart, ambitious, and makes lots of money.
pussy shots or its not true
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Yes. No politician has ever passed any law or policy that drastically changed my life or helped me in any way. I though politicians were supposed to be "For the People." Even when Bush was in office, nothing he did helped out me or anyone I knew. Obviously, they arent suppose to give me a job or help me graduate school. However, they are supposed to pass laws and policies that benefit humanity. Nope. Nothing.
The federal govt was originally only supposed to protect the country from legit fraud and harm. Keep terrorists and foreign enemies at bay, protect us from cyber crime, control immigration, and protect our interests abroad through sound foreign policy.
The problem is that there is too much government and too many laws, and that federal politicians have too much power and control over our lives already.
They aren't supposed to drastically change our lives or help us beyond the protections they're supposed to provide - which they're screwing up more and more.
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Yes - she's a managing director for the world's top investment bank. Tells me she's very smart, ambitious, and makes lots of money.
And she actually earns it unlike the liberal politicians who live off the government dole making $170k a year but are millionairs. Lol
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one man because the republicans wouldn't work with him and tried to destroy him personally and politically
Bullshit - aside from a little political theater, he's been coddled by the media and the majority of the country, and the establishment Republican hacks have caved into him time and time again. Whether it's because they're afraid of him (like Menendez apparently should have been), afraid of being called racists by the media, or because they actually agree with him, they've been very accommodating - affirmative action at work.
Don't be fooled by political theater.
I do like Cruz, and I really got a thrill up my leg (shades of Chris Matthews) when he gave his speech a couple of weeks ago. He's cut from a different cloth. But I don't see him even getting the nomination, and I don't see Hillary losing - unless MAYBE someone with the balls to totally destroy and annihilate her and drag her through the mud gets the nomination.
Bush has already said he's "going to run a clean campaign" if he's nominated. A clean campaign is a losing campaign.
Just about everyone is afraid of the Clintons. Even the rich guys like Trump Weill and the powerful guys like Giuliani who aren't afraid of Obama's wrath do speak of her with deference and great care.
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Did somebody say "pussy shots"???
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Bullshit - aside from a little political theater, he's been coddled by the media and the majority of the country, and the establishment Republican hacks have caved into him time and time again. Whether it's because they're afraid of him (like Menendez apparently should have been), afraid of being called racists by the media, or because they actually agree with him, they've been very accommodating - affirmative action at work.
Don't be fooled by political theater.
I do like Cruz, and I really got a thrill up my leg (shades of Chris Matthews) when he gave his speech a couple of weeks ago. He's cut from a different cloth. But I don't see him even getting the nomination, and I don't see Hillary losing - unless MAYBE someone with the balls to totally destroy and annihilate her and drag her through the mud gets the nomination.
Bush has already said he's "going to run a clean campaign" if he's nominated. A clean campaign is a losing campaign.
Just about everyone is afraid of the Clintons. Even the rich guys like Trump Weill and the powerful guys like Giuliani who aren't afraid of Obama's wrath do speak of her with deference and great care.
Cruz is a very divisive candidate...no way he wins.....Obama was delegitimized by conservatives....they told the American people he wasn't a citizen......which they KNEW was ridiculous....they even insinuated he was a muslim....he was called a liar ("you lie") during his speech on national TV by a Republican........Mitch McConnell stated when Obama was elected that it was his mission to make sure Obama was a one term president.....which means he had no intention whatsoever of working with him
However I do believe you are right about HILLARY....people are afraid of her.....and challenging her means you incur the wrath of the Clinton machine
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Cruz is a very divisive candidate...no way he wins.....Obama was delegitimized by conservatives....they told the American people he wasn't a citizen......which they KNEW was ridiculous....they even insinuated he was a muslim....he was called a liar ("you lie") during his speech on national TV by a Republican........Mitch McConnell stated when Obama was elected that it was his mission to make sure Obama was a one term president.....which means he had no intention whatsoever of working with him
However I do believe you are right about HILLARY....people are afraid of her.....and challenging her means you incur the wrath of the Clinton machine
McConnell's a pussy who took away the nuclear filibuster that Dirty Harry so graciously used against him and handed him after the election.
If you're a liar, you deserve to be called a liar. Obama is a stinking liar, and he ain't the king - he works for us. We pay his salary.
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no one gives out more free shit than the Republicans....only they give it to the rich
At least the rich produce revenue and jobs. :-\
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Cruz is a very divisive candidate...no way he wins.....
Divisive candidates motivate the base to vote. Romney and mccain weren't divisive, and they didn't win.
Obama is VERY VERY divisive... the #1 voted liberal senator when he won in 2008. The liberal BASE stood in line for hours to vote EARLY for him lol.
The BASE wins elections - which is why I want to see Cruz vs Warren in the general election... let the lib base and conservative base be energized, and let AMERICANS choose the winner. Right now, running a moderate - the party running the more divisive candidate will WIN.
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At least the rich produce revenue and jobs. :-\
so what?..that doesn't mean they deserve special treatment...small mom and pop businesses produce more jobs than the rich does
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Divisive candidates motivate the base to vote. Romney and mccain weren't divisive, and they didn't win.
Obama is VERY VERY divisive... the #1 voted liberal senator when he won in 2008. The liberal BASE stood in line for hours to vote EARLY for him lol.
The BASE wins elections - which is why I want to see Cruz vs Warren in the general election... let the lib base and conservative base be energized, and let AMERICANS choose the winner. Right now, running a moderate - the party running the more divisive candidate will WIN.
Good points made but I disagree...divisive candidates may win PRIMARIES...but not the presidential vote.....and Romney was definitely divisive.....remember the 47%?.....Plus Romney moved too far right after being a liberal all his life....McCain lost because he undercut himself by criticizing Obama for being a rookie and then he himself picks a rookie in Palin...a DUMB rookie at that
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Good points made but I disagree...divisive candidates may win PRIMARIES...but not the presidential vote.....and Romney was definitely divisive.....remember the 47%?.....Plus Romney moved too far right after being a liberal all his life....McCain lost because he undercut himself by criticizing Obama for being a rookie and then he himself picks a rookie in Palin...a DUMB rookie at that
look at elections in past 30 years...
Reagan? conservative, and he dominated.
Bush1 was a conservative, and would have won twice without Perot mucking it up.
Clinton, with all his whoring around? Very liberal, and won twice.
Bush2? He was a religious alternative the base loved, won twice.
Obama is the #1 liberal senator, won twice.
Mccain, moderate. Romney, moderate. John Kerry, a chickenhawk dem (middle of road).
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Ted Cruz is totally unelectable. He won't get the Republican nomination. He will not win a single state in the primaries.
Dreadful candidate.
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look at elections in past 30 years...
Reagan? conservative, and he dominated.
Bush1 was a conservative, and would have won twice without Perot mucking it up.
Clinton, with all his whoring around? Very liberal, and won twice.
Bush2? He was a religious alternative the base loved, won twice.
Obama is the #1 liberal senator, won twice.
Mccain, moderate. Romney, moderate. John Kerry, a chickenhawk dem (middle of road).
I understand your reasoning here..good job....but I think its a little more complicated......you can argue that the two Bushes were not that conservative..they were quite reasonable in retrospect.....they didn't threaten social security or Medicaid..they weren't trying to overturn abortion.....or limit the rights of gays and women.....they didn't try to shut down government....they were in no way die-hard fiscal conservatives.....and they both put blacks in very key positions
All Obama had to do was NOT SCARE WHITE PEOPLE...he had 95% of black vote, 80% of Asians, and 70% of Hispanics...he had young people, Wall street, the anti-war vote, and the gay vote too....
LOL@ "chickenhawk dem"
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Ted Cruz is totally unelectable. He won't get the Republican nomination. He will not win a single state in the primaries.
Dreadful candidate.
I imagine he'll win Texas.
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no one gives out more free shit than the Republicans....only they give it to the rich
Oh really? Tell me what charitable offerings the dems are willing to give away (not at the cost of the tax payers).
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Oh really? Tell me what charitable offerings the dems are willing to give away (not at the cost of the tax payers).
I guess you believe that everything the republicans give away comes out of their pockets...EVERYTHING comes from taxpayers
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I guess you believe that everything the republicans give away comes out of their pockets...EVERYTHING comes from taxpayers
True. The caveat being what one makes of that "charity" is another thing entirely. Skin color means nothing. Character, everything.
And by the way, taxation with poor representation is the same or worse than without. No one owes anyone a living. Redistribution of earnings is socialist crap. People, especially the poor and ignorant, desire equality but only with those they deem better off than they themselves are.
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I guess you believe that everything the republicans give away comes out of their pockets...EVERYTHING comes from taxpayers
Is that so. I vote republican and I gave more than 10k in charity not including my tithes last year. Am I the only one?
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Is that so. I vote republican and I gave more than 10k in charity not including my tithes last year. Am I the only one?
Well said. What you give (if anything) and to whom you give (or don't give) it should be up to you. The government should have no right to take from those that work and give to those that don't.
Welfare is indentured servitude. Slavery for a vote. And it knows no color.
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I imagine he'll win Texas.
:) You make a valid point.
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Is that so. I vote republican and I gave more than 10k in charity not including my tithes last year. Am I the only one?
im sure israel appreciated it
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im sure israel appreciated it
Good. I'm sure they do. Obama gives my money to the Muslim Brotherhood and terrorism.
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LOL... It's doesn't matter whom is elected, the "show" will go on.
Goddammit. He who is elected. He is elected. Not: Him is elected. Who is? He is. He whom we elect. We elected him. Not: We elected he. We elected whom? Him. Fuck.
But yes.
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Goddammit. He who is elected. He is elected. Not: Him is elected. Who is? He is. He whom we elect. We elected him. Not: We elected he. We elected whom? Him. Fuck.
But yes.
Love this.
Do it in my head constantly, just never post.
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I'd really dig Cruz if he'd just dump all the bible/prayer shit.
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no one gives out more free shit than the Republicans....only they give it to the rich
While I very adamantly disagree with the Federal Government giving anything to anyone - I do think it makes more sense to give to the rich.. I mean what good can the poor do with anything? They are poor because they are either lazy or simply just dont have what it takesto succeed...
Dont get me wrong - I do think its good to feed them and even provide basic necessities - but dont squander excess resources... 99% of people would be piss broke in 2-3 years if they won 100 million... There are too many ways that people can build wealth and there is not one American that is being "held back" from making a million bucks! Put me in ANYONE'S exact circumstance and I would be just as successfuk as now.. I am nothing special - just worked hard and I knew that I wouldn't give up until!!
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Good. I'm sure they do. Obama gives my money to the Muslim Brotherhood and terrorism.
...? ...lol...?
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I'd really dig Cruz if he'd just dump all the bible/prayer shit.
Yeah thats why i cant vote for the guy and feel good about my decision. That shit mixed with politics is toxic and dangerous
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one man because the republicans wouldn't work with him and tried to destroy him personally and politically
When Obama got elected Dems held both the house and the senate... You sir, are an idiot.
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All taxation is theft - Josiah Warren
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When Obama got elected Dems held both the house and the senate... You sir, are an idiot.
not an idiot...they would not work with him so everything had to be pushed through by Dems......then Repubs blamed Obama and that set the tone for the divisiveness...Repubs voting the way their leadership tells them to.....
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not an idiot...they would not work with him so everything had to be pushed through by Dems......then Repubs blamed Obama and that set the tone for the divisiveness...Repubs voting the way their leadership tells them to.....
So he takes it upon him self to do what every he wants. Clearly all of his actions have led to failure. Despite you or him think. He's not the smartest man in world. He's gone against advisors, military leader and the American people.
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So he takes it upon him self to do what every he wants. Clearly all of his actions have led to failure. Despite you or him think. He's not the smartest man in world. He's gone against advisors, military leader and the American people.
Nothing new, every president has done this. Im sure 80 percent of bushs financial and military advisors told him to stay the fuck out of iraq
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Nothing new, every president has done this. Im sure 80 percent of bushs financial and military advisors told him to stay the fuck out of iraq
Yeah, about that. If i recall there was a vote that both sides agreed on.
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Whether or not it was a good idea in hindsight, Iraq was voted for by both sides. Obamacare was crammed through with zero support from the other side.
Going against the ACA unanimously is one thing I do respect the establishment Republicans for standing up for. That and having the balls to invite Netanyahu over to speak.
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
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the problem with those quotes - many of them were dems demanding UN inspections - and they got them. And the inspections turned up NOTHING.
So you should really separate the ones calling for inspections, and the ones made in that period AFTER inspections and BEFORE the invasion. The number is much smaller ;) lol
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Whether or not it was a good idea in hindsight, Iraq was voted for by both sides. Obamacare was crammed through with zero support from the other side.
Going against the ACA unanimously is one thing I do respect the establishment Republicans for standing up for. That and having the balls to invite Netanyahu over to speak.
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
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the problem with those quotes - many of them were dems demanding UN inspections - and they got them. And the inspections turned up NOTHING.
So you should really separate the ones calling for inspections, and the ones made in that period AFTER inspections and BEFORE the invasion. The number is much smaller ;) lol
It wasn't a conservative-only conspiracy hatched out of nowhere after Bush got elected to go into Iraq to boost Halliburton's stock price and take the oil (which we should have done anyway).
http://usiraq.procon.org/view.additional-resource.php?resourceID=001987 (http://usiraq.procon.org/view.additional-resource.php?resourceID=001987)
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A more accurate representation of politics
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And she actually earns it unlike the liberal politicians who live off the government dole making $170k a year but are millionairs. Lol
Yeah, I should have also added that she's hardworking and no doubt pays lots of taxes. A decent managing director at Goldman is well into 7 figures easily. Perhaps more in a good year when stock / options / appreciation, etc are added in.
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the problem with those quotes - many of them were dems demanding UN inspections - and they got them. And the inspections turned up NOTHING.
So you should really separate the ones calling for inspections, and the ones made in that period AFTER inspections and BEFORE the invasion. The number is much smaller ;) lol
Didn't Saddam kick the inspectors out?
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I have little doubt that he had assets and other things he didn't want found or taken moved out ahead of time.
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He either had them, or he wanted his enemies to think he did. Either way, it's on him. But bomb that shit, don't invade. Look at it now.
Should have listened to Powell: 'You break it, you buy it,' or something of the sort.
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So he takes it upon him self to do what every he wants. Clearly all of his actions have led to failure. Despite you or him think. He's not the smartest man in world. He's gone against advisors, military leader and the American people.
Joe, this is reality speaking.
When you say do everything himself are you referring to his executive orders? if so, you must be alarmed with the amount Bush performed and many other presidents as Obama is not at the top of the heap.
All of his actions have lead to failure? he caught Osama didn't he? what about the auto-industry etc. this is why you cannot be taken seriously, you literally think he can do no good, it's hilarious. The economy picks back up, Joe cries about food stamps or some other peripheral bullshit.
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Joe, this is reality speaking.
When you say do everything himself are you referring to his executive orders? if so, you must be alarmed with the amount Bush performed and many other presidents as Obama is not at the top of the heap.
All of his actions have lead to failure? he caught Osama didn't he? what about the auto-industry etc. this is why you cannot be taken seriously, you literally think he can do no good, it's hilarious. The economy picks back up, Joe cries about food stamps or some other peripheral bullshit.
He had nothing to do with capturing Osama other than giving the ok. Obama opposes the intelligence used over the YEARS it took to find and get to him.
What about the auto industry? You mean using my tax dollars (certainly not yours) to bail out a shitty automaker destroyed by poor quality controls, coverups, and unions run amok? Screwing the bond holders, and the Dept of the Treasury and some of his limousine liberal buddies being insiders on the IPO?
I'm not upset the company's stock is shit and is basically flat after 4.5 years. Watch out when the treasury and Obama's buddies sell out, and the sharks short it down to nothing again. I'm guessing that will happen soon after he leaves office.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/17/us-gm-recall-idUSBREA2G15220140317 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/17/us-gm-recall-idUSBREA2G15220140317)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/02/10/gm-ceo-barra-akerson-pay-compensation/5374869/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/02/10/gm-ceo-barra-akerson-pay-compensation/5374869/)
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/general-motors-recall/national-highway-traffic-safety-administration-nhtsa-20261.html#.VSlo8tzF_yU (http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/general-motors-recall/national-highway-traffic-safety-administration-nhtsa-20261.html#.VSlo8tzF_yU)
What again about those exec orders and MEMOS?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/18/obama-executive-action-presidential-memoranda/20590037/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/18/obama-executive-action-presidential-memoranda/20590037/)
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He had nothing to do with capturing Osama other than giving the ok. Obama opposes the intelligence used over the YEARS it took to find and get to him.
What about the auto industry? You mean using my tax dollars (certainly not yours) to bail out a shitty automaker destroyed by poor quality controls, coverups, and unions run amok? Screwing the bond holders, and the Dept of the Treasury and some of his limousine liberal buddies being insiders on the IPO?
I'm not upset the company's stock is shit and is basically flat after 4.5 years. Watch out when the treasury and Obama's buddies sell out, and the sharks short it down to nothing again. I'm guessing that will happen soon after he leaves office.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/17/us-gm-recall-idUSBREA2G15220140317 (http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/17/us-gm-recall-idUSBREA2G15220140317)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/02/10/gm-ceo-barra-akerson-pay-compensation/5374869/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/02/10/gm-ceo-barra-akerson-pay-compensation/5374869/)
http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/general-motors-recall/national-highway-traffic-safety-administration-nhtsa-20261.html#.VSlo8tzF_yU (http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/general-motors-recall/national-highway-traffic-safety-administration-nhtsa-20261.html#.VSlo8tzF_yU)
What again about those exec orders and MEMOS?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/18/obama-executive-action-presidential-memoranda/20590037/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/18/obama-executive-action-presidential-memoranda/20590037/)
This shows why arguing with you is futile....what are presidents supposed to do?..put on a uniform, jump out of a helicopter and go get Bin Laden himself personally????????????????........don't be idiotic....Obama deserves credit for that..he is the leader who put the people and intelligence in place in order to make the decision to do it......he gets the credit..plain and simple
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LOL at you suggestion that everyone on the "gravy train" is a liberal. It's actually quite the opposite.
"Statistics reveal that the city holding the most beneficiaries of the SNAP program (a favorite target of the GOP) is 99.22% white and 95% Republican. Owsley County, Kentucky earns the lowest median household income in the country, but they are the most prolific government-takers in U.S. existence." http://aattp.org/ts-official-white-folks-in-red-states-are-the-biggest-food-stamp-moochers-in-the-country/
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LOL at you suggestion that everyone on the "gravy train" is a liberal. It's actually quite the opposite.
Agreed X100
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A more accurate representation of politics
(http://s14.postimg.org/oc6wxvkmp/10665354_877073998972070_3352407805010797469_n.jpg)
Haha perfect
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Agreed X100
"Whats the Matter with Kansas" the book,
Talks all about this. Pretty interesting
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That religious nut bullshit is a dealbreaker for me as far as Cruz is concerned. And he has a real "I need a punch in the face" mug to boot.
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That religious nut bullshit is a dealbreaker for me as far as Cruz is concerned. And he has a real "I need a punch in the face" mug to boot.
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It wasn't a conservative-only conspiracy hatched out of nowhere after Bush got elected to go into Iraq to boost Halliburton's stock price and take the oil (which we should have done anyway).
http://usiraq.procon.org/view.additional-resource.php?resourceID=001987 (http://usiraq.procon.org/view.additional-resource.php?resourceID=001987)
I didn't say it was.
I am just saying that 100% of the people on that list didn't want war - Some demanded inspections, and when the inspections showed zero WMD, they didn't support war.
I see these quotes used all the time on getbig political board. A quote from 1998, from a person who was retired in 2000, demanding WMD inspections, does NOT equal an endorsement for war in March 2003. It just doesn't. It's beyond stupid to include those. Once the inspections showed zero WMD, well, fuck it, we invaded anyway. USA, baby!
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That religious nut bullshit is a dealbreaker for me as far as Cruz is concerned. And he has a real "I need a punch in the face" mug to boot.
Considering the alternatives, I ain't gonna let it kill the deal. Sure wish he was just bluffing about all the prayer nonsense, though.
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Considering the alternatives, I ain't gonna let it kill the deal. Sure wish he was just bluffing about all the prayer nonsense, though.
doubt it
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doubt it
Agreed.
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Considering the alternatives, I ain't gonna let it kill the deal. Sure wish he was just bluffing about all the prayer nonsense, though.
I dunno man,
I cant vote for a guy who is that looney based on principle. That kind of shit needs to stop being rewarded as its dangerous when it impacts policy and decision making. Granted he is probably hamming it up a notch for the bible belt vote, but its embarrasing to see a potential leader of the free world talk like that
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you still haven't said if Cruz is qualified for president due to his being born in Canada...you said Obama wasn't even though he was born in Hawaii .....I think the question short-circuited your brain due to your birther leanings
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you still haven't said if Cruz is qualified for president due to his being born in Canada...you said Obama wasn't even though he was born in Hawaii .....I think the question short-circuited your brain due to your birther leanings
cruz' paperwork is in order. he was a dual citizen, but he canceled out that CAN part of it 1-2 years ago.
both parents were american. He's legit, but yes, I invite his paperwork for scrutiny.
Obama's papers, dude you have to admit, they're fishy. That document didn't age, had photoshop layers... it was just odd all arouond. The other birth certs printed before and after his were completely different. There are question marks there.
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cruz' paperwork is in order. he was a dual citizen, but he canceled out that CAN part of it 1-2 years ago.
both parents were american. He's legit, but yes, I invite his paperwork for scrutiny.
Obama's papers, dude you have to admit, they're fishy. That document didn't age, had photoshop layers... it was just odd all arouond. The other birth certs printed before and after his were completely different. There are question marks there.
Cruz's father wasn't American when Cruz was born..he was Cuban...got his citizenship papers many years later
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Cruz's father wasn't American when Cruz was born..he was Cuban...got his citizenship papers many years later
Maybe im off base here, but it seems semi-archaic that you must be american blooded, because as the country grows and travel is more frequent and jobs take people over seas and the ability to migrate is easier than ever...less and less people are "totally" american. As long as u are citiZen, I see that making more sense. But i dunno, im just some dude with an opinion.
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But which is the State's essential function, aggression or defense, few seem to know or care. - Benjamin Tucker
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I dunno man,
I cant vote for a guy who is that looney based on principle. That kind of shit needs to stop being rewarded as its dangerous when it impacts policy and decision making. Granted he is probably hamming it up a notch for the bible belt vote, but its embarrasing to see a potential leader of the free world talk like that
I agree, but when you consider not a single avowed agnostic/atheist has ever even considered admitting such running for high office, your options are limited. Clearly the least likely minority group to ever occupy the White House any time soon. Embarrassing, sad, and downright pathetic, but unfortunately true.
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In truth I would easily trust an honest Atheist to run our country. Fairness and compassion are not the exclusive property of any so-called religion and in fact are sorely missing from many practitioners and especially so Islam. As such I would never trust a Muslim to take charge. Never. Churchill didn't put much stock in their relgion.
Libtards seem to put the hopes on the charity of man and when that fails them, fall back on taxation with representation and if that is not sufficient they simply call their devious acts "fees".
So what are we to do? The Colonial colony of Plymouth once tried living as Free Range Hippys i.e., communal living. The result?
No one worked and people starved. Once you were allowed to reap what you sowed and barter amongst other like minded folk, prosperity returned. Plymouth folk doubtless claimed the faith of Christ but failed to live it when confronted with the promise of plenty for all if all shared in the work.
Libtards want to rape what the working people sew. Yes, I meant "rape", not "reap". So then, again there is no harm in an honest man having no faith in any deity so long as he serves the people well instead of serving them notice, if you get my meaning.
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In truth I would easily trust an honest Atheist to run our country. Fairness and compassion are not the exclusive property of any so-called religion and in fact are sorely missing from many practitioners and especially so Islam. As such I would never trust a Muslim to take charge. Never. Churchill didn't put much stock in their relgion.
Libtards seem to put the hopes on the charity of man and when that fails them, fall back on taxation with representation and if that is not sufficient they simply call their devious acts "fees".
So what are we to do? The Colonial colony of Plymouth once tried living as Free Range Hippys i.e., communal living. The result?
No one worked and people starved. Once you were allowed to reap what you sowed and barter amongst other like minded folk, prosperity returned. Plymouth folk doubtless claimed the faith of Christ but failed to live it when confronted with the promise of plenty for all if all shared in the work.
Libtards want to rape what the working people sew. Yes, I meant "rape", not "reap". So then, again there is no harm in an honest man having no faith in any deity so long as he serves the people well instead of serving them notice, if you get my meaning.
I've just reached a breaking point with my formerly beloved Conservatives digging deep into the bible for moral clarity, when this often entails retarded OT nonsense. And I can't help but feel anymore it is often done simply to justify long held, simple-minded prejudice.
They'll dig up an anti-gay verse or two, or conveniently interpret some 'sanctity of life' or 'not playing God' horseshit in order to oppose abortion or Death with Dignity legislation (voluntary euthanasia, btw, as opposed to state-sponsored execution), and even life-saving stem cell research. Inexcusable ignorance for this century at way too steep a cost.
Meanwhile, they're all adamantly opposed to slavery and other horrid practices, like they're no-brainers (which they obviously are), yet they can easily find TONS of biblical support for such practices.
And I support the death penalty, but I'm in no way pretending to use Scripture as justification. I just believe society is better served with some monsters erased from existence. Sue me.
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I've just reached a breaking point with my formerly beloved Conservatives reaching deep into the bible for moral clarity, when this often entails retarded OT nonsense.
They'll dig up an anti-gay verse or two, or conveniently interpret some 'sanctity of life' or 'not playing God' horseshit in order to oppose abortion or Death with Dignity legislation (voluntary euthanasia, btw, as opposed to state-sponsored execution), and even life-saving stem cell research. Inexcusable ignorance for this century at way too steep a cost.
Meanwhile, they're all adamantly opposed to slavery and other horrid practices, like they're no-brainers (which they obviously are), yet they can easily find TONS of biblical support for such practices.
I agree. There is much in Christendom that I fear the Christ would disapprove of. Including my poor faith in Him.
Now then, just because we are men and therefor we often fail at something does not mean we should continue to fail. To win the battle for decency for all, if you will, we must first win the hearts and minds of our fellow man.
Faith, justice, fairness and the like are for all only if they work for all. I have often said that I will not force another to wear the same (or any) shoes as I do. But in a like manner neither should I (or others) be made to wear another's choice of shoe.
Or pay for them.
I digress, I know.
Be well.
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I agree. There is much in Christendom that I fear the Christ would disapprove of. Including my poor faith in Him.
Now then, just because we are men and therefor we often fail at something does not mean we should continue to fail. To win the battle for decency for all, if you will, we must first win the hearts and minds of our fellow man.
Faith, justice, fairness and the like are for all only if they work for all. I have often said that I will not force another to wear the same (or any) shoes as I do. But in a like manner neither should I (or others) be made to wear another's choice of shoe.
Or pay for them.
I digress, I know.
Be well.
If you weren't in Scotland, I'd like to buy you a beer sometime and wax philosophic. Maybe make a pass, who knows.
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I've just reached a breaking point with my formerly beloved Conservatives digging deep into the bible for moral clarity, when this often entails retarded OT nonsense. And I can't help but feel anymore it is often done simply to justify long held, simple-minded prejudice.
They'll dig up an anti-gay verse or two, or conveniently interpret some 'sanctity of life' or 'not playing God' horseshit in order to oppose abortion or Death with Dignity legislation (voluntary euthanasia, btw, as opposed to state-sponsored execution), and even life-saving stem cell research. Inexcusable ignorance for this century at way too steep a cost.
Meanwhile, they're all adamantly opposed to slavery and other horrid practices, like they're no-brainers (which they obviously are), yet they can easily find TONS of biblical support for such practices.
And I support the death penalty, but I'm in no way pretending to use Scripture as justification. I just believe society is better served with some monsters erased from existence. Sue me.
Great post
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This shows why arguing with you is futile....what are presidents supposed to do?..put on a uniform, jump out of a helicopter and go get Bin Laden himself personally????????????????........don't be idiotic....Obama deserves credit for that..he is the leader who put the people and intelligence in place in order to make the decision to do it......he gets the credit..plain and simple
You shouldn't be arguing with me - you should be reading and taking notes so you don't keep repeated the same nonsense over and over.
No, the intel gathered over the years came largely from things like the "torture" you on the left did away with.
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I didn't say it was.
I am just saying that 100% of the people on that list didn't want war - Some demanded inspections, and when the inspections showed zero WMD, they didn't support war.
I see these quotes used all the time on getbig political board. A quote from 1998, from a person who was retired in 2000, demanding WMD inspections, does NOT equal an endorsement for war in March 2003. It just doesn't. It's beyond stupid to include those. Once the inspections showed zero WMD, well, fuck it, we invaded anyway. USA, baby!
Whatever you say, 240. You've got to justify voting for Obama twice by blaming Bush for everything and vilifying him constantly.
And no, I'm not a big Bush fan myself. But a chimp who does nothing would be better than the mess we're in now.
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Maybe im off base here, but it seems semi-archaic that you must be american blooded, because as the country grows and travel is more frequent and jobs take people over seas and the ability to migrate is easier than ever...less and less people are "totally" american. As long as u are citiZen, I see that making more sense. But i dunno, im just some dude with an opinion.
That's fine with me..tell it to the birthers.....or does their logic only apply when the person is black>?>
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I dunno man,
I cant vote for a guy who is that looney based on principle. That kind of shit needs to stop being rewarded as its dangerous when it impacts policy and decision making. Granted he is probably hamming it up a notch for the bible belt vote, but its embarrasing to see a potential leader of the free world talk like that
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you still haven't said if Cruz is qualified for president due to his being born in Canada...you said Obama wasn't even though he was born in Hawaii .....I think the question short-circuited your brain due to your birther leanings
Cruz's eligibility has been confirmed by legal experts, of which you're obviously not.
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You shouldn't be arguing with me - you should be reading and taking notes so you don't keep repeated the same nonsense over and over.
No, the intel gathered over the years came largely from things like the "torture" you on the left did away with.
Jesus Christ.....I hate having to destroy goddamn idiots like you......getting Bin Laden didn't come from torture.....it came from surveillance of his courier who would frequent an internet café where his internet traffic was traced....Obama gets the credit just as all presidents get credit and blame for successes and failures...stop pretending
according to your logic, Steve Jobs didn't build Apple...it was the lower level people who worked for him
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People who don't vote because of flaws in whichever candidate whose views most closely mirror their own are people who help those like Obama get elected.
If you're wanting a perfect candidate, it ain't gonna happen.
As I've said numerous times myself, it doesn't bother me or affect me one bit if a guy or gal worships a unicorn or has other quirks. As long as he or she is right or mostly right on the big picture stuff - the Constitution, lower taxes and regs, strong national defense, fiscal responsibility, etc - that's all I'm concerned about.
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Jesus Christ.....I hate having to destroy goddamn idiots like you......getting Bin Laden didn't come from torture.....it came from surveillance of his courier who would frequent an internet café where his internet traffic was traced....Obama gets the credit just as all presidents get credit and blame for successes and failures...stop pretending
according to your logic, Steve Jobs didn't build Apple...it was the lower level people who worked for him
I'm the moron? You're destroying me? That's funny. Keep posting - you're killing me over here.
The intel (or at least useful intel) on Bin Laden didn't start until Obama got into office I suppose? ::)
You should stop getting your "news" from Sharpton, Schultz, and Maddrow.
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Jesus Christ.....I hate having to destroy goddamn idiots like you......getting Bin Laden didn't come from torture.....it came from surveillance of his courier who would frequent an internet café where his internet traffic was traced....Obama gets the credit just as all presidents get credit and blame for successes and failures...stop pretending
according to your logic, Steve Jobs didn't build Apple...it was the lower level people who worked for him
And I love the way you compare a hack politician who is completely full of shit and totally useless outside of government and community organizing to a self-made billionaire who was one of the world's best ever entrepreneurs. ;D
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Cruz's eligibility has been confirmed by legal experts, of which you're obviously not.
well first of all you obviously have no idea whats going on here..you aren't involved in the daily back of forth of the political board since you only have just over 1000 posts....I already know that he's eligible,.,.....but the conservative nutcases here, including coach, argued FOR YEARS that Obama was NOT eligible for office even though he had an American mother just like Cruz........I'm simply calling out their bullshit.....if you are a true birther like they claim to be how can you reconcile your view that Obama was not eligible yet Cruz is?????????????????????????????????????????
Just calling out their hypocrisy..which has come back to bite them on their ass
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Jesus Christ.....I hate having to destroy goddamn idiots like you......getting Bin Laden didn't come from torture.....it came from surveillance of his courier who would frequent an internet café where his internet traffic was traced....Obama gets the credit just as all presidents get credit and blame for successes and failures...stop pretending
according to your logic, Steve Jobs didn't build Apple...it was the lower level people who worked for him
Tell me again how Obama is responsible for the stock market, the energy boom, the price of a barrel of oil, and interest rates being so low.
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I'm the moron? You're destroying me? That's funny. Keep posting - you're killing me over here.
The intel (or at least useful intel) on Bin Laden didn't start until Obama got into office I suppose? ::)
You should stop getting your "news" from Sharpton, Schultz, and Maddrow.
As if getting your news from O'Reilly, Beck, and Coulter is any better. ::) ::)
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well first of all you obviously have no idea whats going on here..you aren't involved in the daily back of forth of the political board since you only have just over 1000 posts....I already know that he's eligible,.,.....but the conservative nutcases here, including coach, argued FOR YEARS that Obama was NOT eligible for office even though he had an American mother just like Cruz........I'm simply calling out their bullshit.....if you are a true birther like they claim to be how can you reconcile your view that Obama was not eligible yet Cruz is?????????????????????????????????????????
Just calling out their hypocrisy..which has come back to bite them on their ass
Now you're playing the "you don't know shit 'cause you only have 1000 posts!" card. Oh brother. ;D
Next you'll complain to Ron that I'm racist.
You've totally "destroyed" yourself here.
I'm sure you pump those dumb college kids' heads full of all the leftist bullshit you spew on here. They probably fail your classes if they argue that Obama didn't raise the stock market, didn't lower the price of oil, had little to do with the capture of Bin Laden, didn't invent the I-phone, etc. ::)
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As if getting your news from O'Reilly, Beck, and Coulter is any better. ::) ::)
I've never called O'Reilly and the other Fox opinion people "the news" like some on here have done with Maddrow and others at the MSNBC nuthouse. I don't know why Scarborough even stays there - he must make lots of money.
But as far as actual news, now that you mention it... http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poll-msnbc-least-trustworthy-source-of-news-fox-news-ranked-first/article/2561252 (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poll-msnbc-least-trustworthy-source-of-news-fox-news-ranked-first/article/2561252)
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As if getting your news from O'Reilly, Beck, and Coulter is any better. ::) ::)
The stupidity of the three people you just mentioned is legendary........I used to watch Bill O'Reilly back before Obama was president when FOX was less overtly biased...I got tired of his insanely self-righteousness and his talking over guests..not to mention he was wrong most of the time
Beck was absolutely mentally ill
I don't even believe that Coulter is as crazy as she presents herself to be....I think she uses her crazy views to sell books
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I've never called O'Reilly and the other Fox opinion people "the news" like some on here have done with Maddrow and others at the MSNBC nuthouse. I don't know why Scarborough even stays there - he must make lots of money.
But as far as actual news, now that you mention it... http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poll-msnbc-least-trustworthy-source-of-news-fox-news-ranked-first/article/2561252 (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poll-msnbc-least-trustworthy-source-of-news-fox-news-ranked-first/article/2561252)
500 hundred years ago people also thought that mentally ill people were possessed and drained holes in their head to release the demon.
Moral of the story: Just because a large body of people believes something, doesn't make it true.
The idea that Fox News is ranked most trustworthy just proves there are a lot of stupid people out there. It doesn't actually make it a reputable news source.
I don't trust ANY news source, democrat or republican.
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500 hundred years ago people also thought that mentally ill people were possessed and drained holes in their head to release the demon.
Moral of the story: Just because a large body of people believes something, doesn't make it true.
The idea that Fox News is ranked most trustworthy just proves there are a lot of stupid people out there. It doesn't actually make it a reputable news source.
I don't trust ANY news source, democrat or republican.
I agree. Tens of millions of people voted for Obama twice, and believed his BS that the ACA would not negatively affect them.
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Now you're playing the "you don't know shit 'cause you only have 1000 posts!" card. Oh brother. ;D
Next you'll complain to Ron that I'm racist.
You've totally "destroyed" yourself here.
I'm sure you pump those dumb college kids' heads full of all the leftist bullshit you spew on here. They probably fail your classes if they argue that Obama didn't raise the stock market, didn't lower the price of oil, had little to do with the capture of Bin Laden, didn't invent the I-phone, etc. ::)
you are failing miserably here, rookie....again you didn't know what was going on and you mistook hyperbole as for me not knowing the answer....as I mentioned above, the question was directed at birthers who claimed that Obama WAS NOT eligible for the presidency based upon the circumstances of his birth..I asked if it applied to Cruz as well..I ALREADY KNOW Cruz is eligible.....again...was trying to call out the birthers....
I don't understand your problem.....as for Obama getting credit, He sure was getting ALL THE BLAME when gas prices were high and unemployment was high.........yet now people want to deny him credit when things are good
just exposing the hypocrisy AGAIN
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cruz' paperwork is in order. he was a dual citizen, but he canceled out that CAN part of it 1-2 years ago.
both parents were american. He's legit, but yes, I invite his paperwork for scrutiny.
Obama's papers, dude you have to admit, they're fishy. That document didn't age, had photoshop layers... it was just odd all arouond. The other birth certs printed before and after his were completely different. There are question marks there.
I love how folks like to interpret and manipulate the facts just enough to cast doubt. Both Cruz' parents weren't U.S. citizens when he was born, just his mother was. His father was Cuban. He had a green card at that time. Later he became a U.S. citizen. However that does not change Cruz' eligibility for office.
In order to know for sure what a document looks like, you'd have to have seen it in person. Anything you see online or reprinted can be altered. Who is to say some birther didn't alter his birth certificate to create suspicion? I have at least two original copies of my birth certificate which came directly from the county. Each is different looking than the other. Anyway, Obama's presidency will be over in a year and whether he was a U.S. citizen or not will be a moot point.
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Maybe im off base here, but it seems semi-archaic that you must be american blooded, because as the country grows and travel is more frequent and jobs take people over seas and the ability to migrate is easier than ever...less and less people are "totally" american. As long as u are citiZen, I see that making more sense. But i dunno, im just some dude with an opinion.
It may be archaic, but it's still the law.
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500 hundred years ago people also thought that mentally ill people were possessed and drained holes in their head to release the demon.
Moral of the story: Just because a large body of people believes something, doesn't make it true.
The idea that Fox News is ranked most trustworthy just proves there are a lot of stupid people out there. It doesn't actually make it a reputable news source.
I don't trust ANY news source, democrat or republican.
Me neither.
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you are failing miserably here, rookie....again you didn't know what was going on and you mistook hyperbole as for me not knowing the answer....as I mentioned above, the question was directed at birthers who claimed that Obama WAS NOT eligible for the presidency based upon the circumstances of his birth..I asked if it applied to Cruz as well..I ALREADY KNOW Cruz is eligible.....again...was trying to call out the birthers....
I don't understand your problem.....as for Obama getting credit, He sure was getting ALL THE BLAME when gas prices were high and unemployment was high.........yet now people want to deny him credit when things are good
just exposing the hypocrisy AGAIN
LOL @ "failing rookie". I'm sure you're smashing your keyboard like a monkey right now.
Read my own posts and you might realize that I've never blamed Obama for the price of a barrel of oil. If he starts with exec orders / memos somehow putting heavy taxes on gasoline, and starts making it very difficult for refiners and transporters to bring much of it to the market via dumb regulations, I might be inclined to throw some blame his way if we see gas at $5 a gallon while Brent Crude is $60 a barrel and WTI is even lower. Or if Brent Crude is $60 and WTI goes up to $120 because the left somehow manages to screw up the drilling on private lands here via some dumb regulations.
I don't know or care about some gay feud you have with Coach or Soulcrusher or whoever over "birther" stuff. I find it more and more difficult to even read the politics board as I don't really have the time to wade through the hundreds of daily posts of nonsense... so many of you continue to give Obama credit for the sun rising while blaming Bush for everything you don't like, and believing that Hillary is highly qualified to run the country and has morals and ethics and has never done anything wrong. Liberalism run amok ad nauseam.
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Me neither.
I do trust some news sources until other information comes to light..like the times, wash post, Networks, CNN.....of course you have to be a critical thinker and be able to analyze both sides of an issue..
However many people who ONLY watch FOX or MSNBC do not have that ability
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As if getting your news from O'Reilly, Beck, and Coulter is any better. ::) ::)
Gotta love how 2Dick runs around pretending to be an ultra-wealthy investor.
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I do trust some news sources until other information comes to light..like the times, wash post, Networks, CNN.....of course you have to be a critical thinker and be able to analyze both sides of an issue..
However many people who ONLY watch FOX or MSNBC do not have that ability
Yes, watching CNN is the path to truth.
:rolleyes:
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Gotta love how 2Dick runs around pretending to be an ultra-wealthy investor.
Haha - ok "Las Vegas".
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LOL @ "failing rookie". I'm sure you're smashing your keyboard like a monkey right now.
Read my own posts and you might realize that I've never blamed Obama for the price of a barrel of oil. If he starts with exec orders / memos somehow putting heavy taxes on gasoline, and starts making it very difficult for refiners and transporters to bring much of it to the market via dumb regulations, I might be inclined to throw some blame his way if we see gas at $5 a gallon while Brent Crude is $60 a barrel and WTI is even lower. Or if Brent Crude is $60 and WTI goes up to $120 because the left somehow manages to screw up the drilling on private lands here via some dumb regulations.
I don't know or care about some gay feud you have with Coach or Soulcrusher or whoever over "birther" stuff. I find it more and more difficult to even read the politics board as I don't really have the time to wade through the hundreds of daily posts of nonsense... so many of you continue to give Obama credit for the sun rising while blaming Bush for everything you don't like, and believing that Hillary is highly qualified to run the country and has morals and ethics and has never done anything wrong. Liberalism run amok ad nauseam.
then you shouldn't have inserted yourself into the argument.....it wasn't directed at you and you misinterpreted what I was saying....and for your information:
Hillary...highly qualified....
Bush....loved him and voted for him
actually its conservatism that has run amok....they have attempted to denigrate and delegitimize the president, has done absolutely nothing in congress since they took over and just passes endless resolutions to kill Obamacare....
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Yes, watching CNN is the path to truth.
:rolleyes:
MUCH MORE CREDIBILITY than the other networks
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Gotta love how 2Dick runs around pretending to be an ultra-wealthy investor.
No sense of arguing politics because politicians are not the ones who control or run this world.
Its elite bankers and CEO's of major corporations and people in the oil field.
Its best to avoid any argument about politics. Its equivalent to arguing whose sport team is better.
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then you shouldn't have inserted yourself into the argument.....it wasn't directed at you and you misinterpreted what I was saying....and for your information:
Hillary...highly qualified....
Bush....loved him and voted for him
actually its conservatism that has run amok....they have attempted to denigrate and delegitimize the president, has done absolutely nothing in congress since they took over and just passes endless resolutions to kill Obamacare....
You dont know what the fuck you're doing or who (or what) you're voting for. Do you?
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MUCH MORE CREDIBILITY than the other networks
What stories do they bring you, that sets them apart?
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then you shouldn't have inserted yourself into the argument.....it wasn't directed at you and you misinterpreted what I was saying....and for your information:
Hillary...highly qualified....
Bush....loved him and voted for him
actually its conservatism that has run amok....they have attempted to denigrate and delegitimize the president, has done absolutely nothing in congress since they took over and just passes endless resolutions to kill Obamacare....
Don't you suppose it is those big medical insurance companies that are behind the effort to undo Obamacare? If that's the case, any politician who relies on money from these companies to run their campaigns should be suspect when they lobby against Obamacare.
I can't speak for other folks, but the cost of my medical insurance has decreased since the onset of Obamacare. The coverage has mostly stay the same, although prescription and doctor co-pays actually went down some this year.
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No sense of arguing politics because politicians are not the ones who control or run this world.
Its elite bankers and CEO's of major corporations and people in the oil field.
Its best to avoid any argument about politics. Its equivalent to arguing whose sport team is better.
He's obviously a butthurt gimmick.
I've been saying forever that politicians do not control the stock market, the price of a barrel of oil, interest rates, etc. ::)
They DO increase or decrease taxes and regulations - which can make it a little easier or a little harder to make money and take more money home.
Goddamn you people are dense.
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What stories do they bring you, that sets them apart?
CNN actually has a slightly higher credibility rating then Fox News according to the Pew Research Center. http://www.people-press.org/2010/09/12/section-5-news-media-credibility/
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No sense of arguing politics because politicians are not the ones who control or run this world.
Its elite bankers and CEO's of major corporations and people in the oil field.
Its best to avoid any argument about politics. Its equivalent to arguing whose sport team is better.
I agree. But arguing politics is a national pastime.
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Whatever you say, 240. You've got to justify voting for Obama twice by blaming Bush for everything and vilifying him constantly.
And no, I'm not a big Bush fan myself. But a chimp who does nothing would be better than the mess we're in now.
Not ALL of the people on that list of quotes wanted war. Some made quotes in 1998 and were retired for years before Iraq War in 2003.
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He's obviously a butthurt gimmick.
I've been saying forever that politicians do not control the stock market, the price of a barrel of oil, interest rates, etc. ::)
They DO increase or decrease taxes and regulations - which can make it a little easier or a little harder to make money and take more money home.
Goddamn you people are dense.
But beyond that, they are pretty much puppets to others.
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No sense of arguing politics because politicians are not the ones who control or run this world.
Its elite bankers and CEO's of major corporations and people in the oil field.
Its best to avoid any argument about politics. Its equivalent to arguing whose sport team is better.
Thats why debating is pointless and misdirected
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But beyond that, they are pretty much puppets to others.
I've often made comments about Soros making Obama do this or that. Obama used to work for one of Soros's companies when he was a "community organizer".
But it does suck to have more regs than you know what to do with thrown at you when you're already in a highly regulated industry. Or to see you own income taxes increase more and more, or to see your clients get taxed more and more on things like dividends that they depend upon for income, since they're not able to earn much interest in the credit markets (without taking on much higher risk that they should) with rates being so low. Or to see certain industries get penalized and extorted to the point where they have a hard time getting by. These things are controlled by politicians and their benefactors.
The regs are REALLY hurting small businesses. Big business can afford to hire people to take on the added headaches. And they often support and lobby for many regs anyway - as long as those regs benefit them - preferably while also hurting their competition.
Netflix and others were all for net neutrality. Now that they see the fine print, they realize they too are getting screwed. ;D
And all that aside, the fact that the Fed has felt it necessary to keep rates at zero for 6 years is scary in itself.
PS - not at all happy with the ACA either.
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CNN actually has a slightly higher credibility rating then Fox News according to the Pew Research Center. http://www.people-press.org/2010/09/12/section-5-news-media-credibility/
That is the magic word, because there is nothing in that project to see what credibility actually exists. Absolutely nothing. It's based on asking people what they prefer to watch.
Even worse, it stretches out the number of "news organizations" to 14 (60 Minutes and CBS are separate, now? Look at every one of those on that list...the list is a joke)
But...
NOW a bunch of dipsticks are watching CNN thinking "ah, the truth". That is the end result.
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That is the magic word, because there is nothing in that project to see what credibility actually exists. Absolutely nothing. It's based on asking people what they prefer to watch.
Even worse, it stretches out the number of "news organizations" to 14 (60 Minutes and CBS are separate, now? Look at every one of those on that list...the list is a joke)
But...
NOW a bunch of dipsticks are watching CNN thinking "ah, the truth". That is the end result.
Perhaps you were expecting something different then what this is. The article is clear about it being what the viewers and readers think is credible. If you look at the numbers, none of the broadcasters and news sources are seen as being very credible since the best rating is only 33%.
If I convincingly tell you a lie and you believe me, then to you I am credible. This doesn't alter the fact that I lied to you.
CBS News and 60 minutes are two different shows which are broadcast on the same channel. I'm not sure why you have an issue with this.
Have you ever noticed how the news media simply retells the same stories? Occasionally they do it with a little different slant is all.
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Perhaps you were expecting something different then what this is. The article is clear about it being what the viewers and readers think is credible. If you look at the numbers, none of the broadcasters and news sources are seen as being very credible since the best rating is only 33%.
If I convincingly tell you a lie and you believe me, then to you I am credible. This doesn't alter the fact that I lied to you.
Unfortunately, what I've come to expect from nonsense like this bullshit, is exactly what happens:
MUCH MORE CREDIBILITY than the other networks
There you go.
CBS News and 60 minutes are two different shows which are broadcast on the same channel. I'm not sure why you have an issue with this.
Have you ever noticed how the news media simply retells the same stories? Occasionally they do it with a little different slant is all.
An echo-chamber. Yes. That's the point, and it's why you have to be honest when separating "news organizations".
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Unfortunately, what I've come to expect from nonsense like this bullshit, is exactly what happens:
MUCH MORE CREDIBILITY than the other networks
Andreisdanan clearly overstated this and lost some of his credibility based on what I read about the news media credibility. Credibility is subjective.
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Andreisdanan clearly overstated this and lost some of his credibility based on what I read about the news media credibility. Credibility is subjective.
you are right....credibility is subjective......however. ...It depends on what facts are agreed on by all....I find I and my friends can reach A CONSENSUS ON WHATS PRESENTED ON CNN.....whereas that's not the case with FOX and MSNBC.......I get my news from different sources and I synthesize it and match it with what I've learned from reading, education etc....CNN far and away is much more credible than FOX and MSNBC...so are CBS and ABC,.... NBC is somewhat suspect but I think Meet the Press is pretty good
Also people criticize Rachel Maddow but she presents source material while shes presenting her viewpoint.....I find her to be credible and thorough
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Andreisdanan clearly overstated this and lost some of his credibility based on what I read about the news media credibility.
He misunderstood it like lots of people probably do, if that's what you mean to say.
Credibility is subjective.
And it has to rely on either truth or deception to exist, doesn't it?
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And it has to rely on either truth or deception to exist, doesn't it?
It would be good if credibility was based on truth or deception, but in truth, it isn't. It is based on the perception of truth or deception.
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It would be good if credibility was based on truth or deception, but in truth, it isn't. It is based on the perception of truth or deception.
Requiring either truth or deception, in other words.
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Perceiving deception indicates a lack of credibility, doesn't it?
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Perceiving deception indicates a lack of credibility, doesn't it?
Not necessarily for it may also point to nothing more than personal bias. People like what they like and dislike what they hate. Call it eyes wide open, mind shut tight.
As for politics, well for me (with one notable exception) I have always had to choose between that which I considered the lesser of two evils. My family is quite liberal on our maternal side. Only my mother appears to have been blessed with a mind of her own and fortunately she passed this own to me.
But you may not agree and while that is your right the reality of such "conflicts" is that they cancel each other out at the voting booth. Regardless of that it almost always seems that outside silverback like posturing, little gets done in the squared circle of DC.
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Not necessarily for it may also point to nothing more than personal bias. People like what they like and dislike what they hate. Call it eyes wide open, mind shut tight.
As for politics, well for me (with one notable exception) I have always had to choose between that which I considered the lesser of two evils. My family is quite liberal on our maternal side. Only my mother appears to have been blessed with a mind of her own and fortunately she passed this own to me.
But you may not agree and while that is your right the reality of such "conflicts" is that they cancel each other out at the voting booth. Regardless of that it almost always seems that outside silverback like posturing, little gets done in the squared circle of DC.
It's a response to this from Primemuscle:
It is based on the perception of truth or deception.
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It's a response to this from Primemuscle:
Yes, I understood that and was offering comment from my perspective on your reply. Thanks!
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Yes, I understood that and was offering comment from my perspective on your reply. Thanks!
Meaning that the perception of truth allows credibility to exist, that's all.
Thank you, Scott.
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Requiring either truth or deception, in other words.
Everything is either true or false, despite that some folks believe there is a middle ground. The point is perception is powerful when it comes to credibility. Many truths and lies are perceived wrongly. This explains why there are often many versions of the truth or untruth and why people argue about what is true and what isn't. Sometimes people lie and honestly believe their own lies.
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you guys are really belaboring the point....CNN is hands down the most fair cable news outlet....I watch a lot of news......FOX and MSNBC are simply biased....there is no other way to put it......of course bias will creep into CNN's content sometimes as wel..but if you are truly well-informed and have critical thinking skills then you can spot bias almost immediately.....All outlets have something to offer, even the Al Jazeera network.....but you have to be pretty well infomed so as to know when you are being conned
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you guys are really belaboring the point....CNN is hands down the most fair cable news outlet....I watch a lot of news......FOX and MSNBC are simply biased....there is no other way to put it......of course bias will creep into CNN's content sometimes as wel..but if you are truly well-informed and have critical thinking skills then you can spot bias almost immediately.....All outlets have something to offer, even the Al Jazeera network.....but you have to be pretty well infomed so as to know when you are being conned
CNN's biggest flaw is that they turn into TMZ every time a michael jackson dies or some royal douchebag in UK decides to get married. Then it's a ten day wall-to-wall coverage thing.
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CNN's biggest flaw is that they turn into TMZ every time a michael jackson dies or some royal douchebag in UK decides to get married. Then it's a ten day wall-to-wall coverage thing.
oh I definitely agree on this....but if I want to be informed I go to CNN ...if I want to be entertained or want to see WTF head scratching moments then its FOX or MSNBC
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you guys are really belaboring the point....CNN is hands down the most fair cable news outlet....I watch a lot of news......FOX and MSNBC are simply biased....there is no other way to put it......of course bias will creep into CNN's content sometimes as wel..but if you are truly well-informed and have critical thinking skills then you can spot bias almost immediately.....All outlets have something to offer, even the Al Jazeera network.....but you have to be pretty well infomed so as to know when you are being conned
You are right. Word games can be fun though.
Mostly, I avoid the news because it is usually bad news no matter who is telling the story.
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oh I definitely agree on this....but if I want to be informed I go to CNN ...if I want to be entertained or want to see WTF head scratching moments then its FOX or MSNBC
I love the "gotcha" shit by msnbs and fox. They both do it, both good at it. Point out hypocrisy.
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I love the "gotcha" shit by msnbs and fox. They both do it, both good at it. Point out hypocrisy.
Rachel
Maddow does a lot of gotcha but she presents sources for her info..she has a very intellectual show....my favorite news shows are Fareed Zakaria GPS and The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer
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Shit, I'm even tired of Fox's bullshit, but MSNBC simply ain't an option. Just wanted an update on the German plane crash a few weeks back, and Fox wasn't even covering breaking developments. All fucking Obama, all the fucking time. Went to CNN, fuck it.
Then when Hannity finally addressed it later, he and his guest couldn't even discuss it without injecting "terrorism" every few seconds, like they just had to use the word. Obama's watch, HAS to be terrorism. No religious, political, or other ideological grievance discovered, but "ANYTIME 150 people are murdered, it's terrorism."
No. It's not. Dummies.
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nobody comes to fox news for "news". if you want that, you open a news browser on your phone while taking a shit.
people go to FOX for commentary. They know, they can count on it... anytime you're feeling annoyed with work or embarrassed that your penis is smaller than you'd like... ya can always count on turning on fox news or radio, and within a minute, you'll hear a liberal like obama or pelosi getting trashed. it's empowering! I listen daily. Usually a little local then Back in the AM. Rush early afternoon, and Hannity when I'm stuck in traffic after 3pm EST. It's nice to see that I'm not the only one who enjoys this passionate emotional outlet.
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Shit, I'm even tired of Fox's bullshit, but MSNBC simply ain't an option. Just wanted an update on the German plane crash a few weeks back, and Fox wasn't even covering breaking developments. All fucking Obama, all the fucking time. Went to CNN, fuck it.
Then when Hannity finally addressed it later, he and his guest couldn't even discuss it without injecting "terrorirism" every few seconds, like they just had to use the word. Obama's watch, HAS to be terrorism. No religious, political, or other ideological grievance discovered, but "ANYTIME 150 people are murdered, it's terrorism."
No. It's not. Dummies.
Good point about FOX.....its either terrorism or Obama sucks........They are very slacking when it comes to breaking news or on-going coverage......they like to stay on their anti-Obama message
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Everything is either true or false, despite that some folks believe there is a middle ground. The point is perception is powerful when it comes to credibility. Many truths and lies are perceived wrongly. This explains why there are often many versions of the truth or untruth and why people argue about what is true and what isn't. Sometimes people lie and honestly believe their own lies.
true.
and when they're anchoring news, we got a big problem
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true.
and when they're anchoring news, we got a big problem
News anchors are scripted. When they lie, someone else wrote those lies for them. It's a matter of following the script or they'll get someone who will.
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News anchors are scripted. When they lie, someone else wrote those lies for them. It's a matter of following the script or they'll get someone who will.
correctamundo, el chieftain.
any further comment on that?
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correctamundo, el chieftain.
any further comment on that?
Nope, you and I have beat this dead horse enough.
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Nope, you and I have beat this dead horse enough.
Ok, Prime.
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San Francisco continues to shine a light on what Leftism does to civilization
American Thinker ^ | 01/16/2020 | Andrea Widburg
Posted on 1/16/2020, 10:13:16 AM
In the 1970s, San Francisco, as was true for most major American cities, had gotten very shabby. While tourists still flocked to the neighborhood directly north of Market Street, where they could find Union Square, fancy stores, and upscale hotels, those who crossed Market Street and headed south found themselves in a four-block-square area of unpleasant squalor. There were always a handful of drunken men sleeping it off in the doorways of decrepit buildings and the sidewalks stank of urine.
By the end of the 1970s, San Francisco began a massive plan to revitalize that area. It tore down the decayed buildings and, in their place, built the Moscone Conference Center, the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, the Yerba Buena Gardens, and the Metreon theater and shopping center. It was all beautiful and inviting. People loved coming to trade shows and conferences in San Francisco, and families happily took their children to the museum, the garden, the skating rink, and the movie theaters.
Things aren’t like that anymore. While it was once just the South of Market region that was icky because of a few sleeping (or rambunctious) drunks, some stinky pee, and some shabby buildings, tourists are discovering that San Francisco’s entire downtown is inundated with hundreds of scary homeless people, mounds of fecal matter, thousands of discarded needles, and clusters of tents and shopping carts.
That the buildings still look nice is irrelevant. To get to them, one has to do the urban equivalent of walking across slippery stones spaced at far intervals in a slimy, alligator-filled swamp.
Ironically, all of this foulness and decay lives cheek by jowl with incredible wealth and excess. San Francisco’s Leftist government has effectively recreated a medieval city,
(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...
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I wish... Get rid of "Libard and illegals" haven...
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Oscar Viewership Hits All-Time Low With 23.6 Million
Deadline ^ | February 10, 2020 | Nellie Andreeva
Posted on 2/10/2020, 2:29:20 PM by EdnaMode
It was a historic 92nd Academy Awards with a first Best Picture recipient not in the English language in Parasite adding an element of surprise to a largely predictable winners list. There was something historic in the ratings for the 2020 Oscars too — an historic low.
Last year, the Academy Awards bet on no traditional host, kicked off the night with an energetic performance by Queen and Adam Lambert, employed “not hosts” with Saturday Night Live pedigree (Tina Fey, Amy Poehler, Maya Rudolph) to do an opening monologue, kept the show’s length under 3.5 hours and created a musical moment with Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper’s performance of “Shallow.”
The result was the first ratings increase in five years, so the Oscars tried to replicate the formula Sunday: no traditional host, high-octane opening number by Janelle Monae. monologue by SNL alums Steve Martin and Chris Rock, and a surprise music performance by Eminem aimed at creating a buzzy moment.
But the ceremony, which clocked in at 3 hours and 35 minutes — up from 3 hours, 23 minutes in 2019 — could not repeat last year’s ratings turnaround, drawing 23.6 million total viewers and a 5.3 rating in the adults 18-49 demographic, based on Nielsen’s Live+Same Day Fast National ratings ordered by ABC. That is down double-digits from last year’s 29.6 million and a 7.7 rating of among adults 18-49.
Overall, the Oscars was the most watched entertainment special since last year’s ceremony, topping the Grammy Awards and Golden Globes in total viewers. Other broadcast networks didn’t try to compete Sunday, with all airing repeats.
(Excerpt) Read more at deadline.com ...
FAIL!
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you are right....credibility is subjective......however. ...It depends on what facts are agreed on by all....I find I and my friends can reach A CONSENSUS ON WHATS PRESENTED ON CNN.....whereas that's not the case with FOX and MSNBC.......I get my news from different sources and I synthesize it and match it with what I've learned from reading, education etc....CNN far and away is much more credible than FOX and MSNBC...so are CBS and ABC,.... NBC is somewhat suspect but I think Meet the Press is pretty good
Also people criticize Rachel Maddow but she presents source material while shes presenting her viewpoint.....I find her to be credible and thorough
You must be kidding. CNN is an arm of the DNC. CNN is as far to the left as Fox is to the right but the difference is that Fox admits who they are and CNN and MSDNC don't. People living in big cities seem to all think alike, maybe it's a way Humans have adapted to abnormal, crowded living conditions.
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I have a friend who's a whacky libtard. The MSM news stations are like 98% liberal.
Someone mentions Fox news and he flips out of his mind "fuck Fox news, blah, blah"...
Funny how triggered whack-jobs can get...
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Evertbody here in Portugal knows Donald Trump already won the elections of 2020.
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Evertbody here in Portugal knows Donald Trump already won the elections of 2020.
I can't wait for the libtard screams in November NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Hahaha
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wDYNVH0U3cs
What an embarrassment of a human being
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It's time to shave those 3 hairs off of your chin that you call a beard and take a shower because when Trump gets elected you are gonna have to go get a job as the Obama gravy train of free shit will be coming to an end!
(updated.)
Trump will never be elected
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Trump will never be elected
The 2020-President of the US of A?
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Trump will never be elected
Borsen, what do you mean by this? (He already has been once). Are you saying Bernie will win in 2020?
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Trump will never be elected
What? He was in 2016 and will be again and you lefty bitches can cry
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Trump will never be elected
Not in Denmark !.
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Borsen, what do you mean by this? (He already has been once). Are you saying Bernie will win in 2020?
No. His first election, if you can call it that, was because of voter fraud. The republicans all cheated to get him votes. There are videos of republicans throwing away boxes of legitimate votes because they were friends with the proper president, Hillary Clinton.
Additionally, it was nullified because he was impeached, and so guilty of being incapable to lead the country.
As well, he will never win 2024.
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Borsen, what do you mean by this? (He already has been once). Are you saying Bernie will win in 2020?
borsen8 is Danish globalist ;)
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borsen8 is Danish globalist ;)
No. His first election, if you can call it that, was because of voter fraud. The republicans all cheated to get him votes. There are videos of republicans throwing away boxes of legitimate votes because they were friends with the proper president, Hillary Clinton.
Additionally, it was nullified because he was impeached, and so guilty of being incapable to lead the country.
As well, he will never win 2024.
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No. His first election, if you can call it that, was because of voter fraud. The republicans all cheated to get him votes. There are videos of republicans throwing away boxes of legitimate votes because they were friends with the proper president, Hillary Clinton.
Additionally, it was nullified because he was impeached, and so guilty of being incapable to lead the country.
As well, he will never win 2024.
Just so you know, 'he' (Trump) cannot under present law run for President in 2024. Yes, the House impeached Trump, which will forever be a stain on his time in office. However, the Senate acquitted him as they did with Clinton and Johnson. Nixon resigned when he realized the jig was up.
Widespread voter fraud in the 2016 election has never been proved. In fact, there were only 4 individual cases (people) of voter fraud found. Trump rung the alarm bells over and over regarding voter fraud in the 2016 election because he believes he would otherwise have won the popular vote in addition to the electoral vote, which he won.
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No. His first election, if you can call it that, was because of voter fraud. The republicans all cheated to get him votes. There are videos of republicans throwing away boxes of legitimate votes because they were friends with the proper president, Hillary Clinton.
Additionally, it was nullified because he was impeached, and so guilty of being incapable to lead the country.
As well, he will never win 2024.
You are NOT American, stop bullshitting YOURSELF !.
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Just so you know, 'he' (Trump) cannot under present law run for President in 2024. Yes, the House impeached Trump, which will forever be a stain on his time in office. However, the Senate acquitted him as they did with Clinton and Johnson. Nixon resigned when he realized the jig was up.
Widespread voter fraud in the 2016 election has never been proved. In fact, there were only 4 individual cases (people) of voter fraud found. Trump rung the alarm bells over and over regarding voter fraud in the 2016 election because he believes he would otherwise have won the popular vote in addition to the electoral vote, which he won.
I know he cannot run in 2024, which is why i said he won't win
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I know he cannot run in 2024, which is why i said he won't win
..........but ex Bondi beach blow jobbing Marry still will be the Queen of Danemark ;D
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I know he cannot run in 2024, which is why i said he won't win
My apologies. Apparently, I misread your post.