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And company cars. Must be at least one other here?
I'm due to take up a new position at a company on Monday. We've negotiated a salary. Received my contract yesterday and I'm getting stung 13k a year since the vehicle is for personal use also. So I'm basically getting 13k less on my negotiated salary without having been informed of that during my last interview.
Go into the office, ripped it up in front of the Managing Director, throw a double bicep and walk out?
Or is this standard? In the past when having company cars I've never heard of such shit.
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And company cars. Must be at least one other here?
I'm due to take up a new position at a company on Monday. We've negotiated a salary. Received my contract yesterday and I'm getting stung 13k a year since the vehicle is for personal use also. So I'm basically getting 13k less on my negotiated salary without having been informed of that during my last interview.
Go into the office, ripped it up in front of the Managing Director, throw a double bicep and walk out?
Or is this standard? In the past when having company cars I've never heard of such shit.
does it include gas/tolls ect..
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Most in getbig donīt even work in a Gym 8)
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Throw up double bu and walk out hahahahha,please record it.
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does it include gas/tolls ect..
Yea I get a fuel card. Or gas card if you wanna call it that. Don't know about tolls. Never thought of it. I do get expenses though so I would imagine so.
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that sucks. While on internship, I used my own car, but they reimbursed me for gas at least.
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that sucks. While on internship, I used my own car, but they reimbursed me for gas at least.
That's ok then. Still wear and tear and all that though.
I think my next few holidays I'll be driving and not flying. If I'm paying a grand a fucking month to use their cars, I may as well get decent use out of it.
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And company cars. Must be at least one other here?
I'm due to take up a new position at a company on Monday. We've negotiated a salary. Received my contract yesterday and I'm getting stung 13k a year since the vehicle is for personal use also. So I'm basically getting 13k less on my negotiated salary without having been informed of that during my last interview.
Go into the office, ripped it up in front of the Managing Director, throw a double bicep and walk out?
Or is this standard? In the past when having company cars I've never heard of such shit.
Why are you telling us this?
Nobody cares.
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Why are you telling us this?
Nobody cares.
Nor do I care for your posts. But you don't see me piping up Adam.
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Nor do I care for your posts. But you don't see me piping up Adam.
I do see you piping.
You are piping about a free car. Take it and shut up about it. All you wanted to do is tell us that you were getting a free car for work. Thats all this is.
Like any of us would give you a solution that you would actually use. ::) ::)
You just wanted to tell someone about your work car and thats it. End of thread. Nobody cares.
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That's ok then. Still wear and tear and all that though.
I think my next few holidays I'll be driving and not flying. If I'm paying a grand a fucking month to use their cars, I may as well get decent use out of it.
Yes, it was wear and tear, but I at least knew beforehand that Id be using my car.
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And company cars. Must be at least one other here?
I'm due to take up a new position at a company on Monday. We've negotiated a salary. Received my contract yesterday and I'm getting stung 13k a year since the vehicle is for personal use also. So I'm basically getting 13k less on my negotiated salary without having been informed of that during my last interview.
Go into the office, ripped it up in front of the Managing Director, throw a double bicep and walk out?
Or is this standard? In the past when having company cars I've never heard of such shit.
You're saying they're charging you $1083 a month for the use of a car?
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I do see you piping.
You are piping about a free car. Take it and shut up about it. All you wanted to do is tell us that you were getting a free car for work. Thats all this is.
Like any of us would give you a solution that you would actually use. ::) ::)
You just wanted to tell someone about your work car and thats it. End of thread. Nobody cares.
I actually agree with TA
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In before James tells me I don't have a job because I'm black. ::)
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My company car is in addition to the salary.. can't help you.
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And company cars. Must be at least one other here?
I'm due to take up a new position at a company on Monday. We've negotiated a salary. Received my contract yesterday and I'm getting stung 13k a year since the vehicle is for personal use also. So I'm basically getting 13k less on my negotiated salary without having been informed of that during my last interview.
Go into the office, ripped it up in front of the Managing Director, throw a double bicep and walk out?
Or is this standard? In the past when having company cars I've never heard of such shit.
Seems everything is negotiable. let them know you're not happy with the 13K a year. That's not a perk, and that's more than you would likely pay if you used your own
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Seems like a very shitty job.
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Getbiggers take dividends not salaries.
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And company cars. Must be at least one other here?
I'm due to take up a new position at a company on Monday. We've negotiated a salary. Received my contract yesterday and I'm getting stung 13k a year since the vehicle is for personal use also. So I'm basically getting 13k less on my negotiated salary without having been informed of that during my last interview.
Go into the office, ripped it up in front of the Managing Director, throw a double bicep and walk out?
Or is this standard? In the past when having company cars I've never heard of such shit.
That'll teach you to read your contracts more closely now won't it..
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I do see you piping.
You are piping about a free car. Take it and shut up about it. All you wanted to do is tell us that you were getting a free car for work. Thats all this is.
Like any of us would give you a solution that you would actually use. ::) ::)
You just wanted to tell someone about your work car and thats it. End of thread. Nobody cares.
Once you get a job one day and stop pretending to people that you're rich, you might have the same issue my boy :-\
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In before James tells me I don't have a job because I'm black. ::)
I told you before LeBron, slinging crack and boosting cars aint a job.
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Once you get a job one day and stop pretending to people that you're rich, you might have the same issue my boy :-\
Why don't you stop wasting money on vinyl siding and particle board?
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Why don't you stop wasting money on vinyl siding and particle board?
Why don't you get a snorkel and fix your tennis racket.
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Why don't you get a snorkel and fix your tennis racket.
Why don't you stop wearing shorts with pleats in them?
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You're saying they're charging you $1083 a month for the use of a car?
This exactly. That is a hell of a lot of money to use a company car.
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Hope it is an Aston Martin for a hit like that. Sounds like a load of shit, but then again us getbiggers don't accept offers for less than a million net, so in the grand scheme of things it is peanuts.
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Something is off about this story.. I provide a car for top producers but it doesn't even make sense to deduct that from their pay.. No way its 13K a year!
Also - either that is in your "contract" or it isn't.. It didn't just change.. Do you actually have a contract or is this just the employment paperwork we are talking about?
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This getbig expert trains people in a University
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And company cars. Must be at least one other here?
I'm due to take up a new position at a company on Monday. We've negotiated a salary. Received my contract yesterday and I'm getting stung 13k a year since the vehicle is for personal use also. So I'm basically getting 13k less on my negotiated salary without having been informed of that during my last interview.
Go into the office, ripped it up in front of the Managing Director, throw a double bicep and walk out?
Or is this standard? In the past when having company cars I've never heard of such shit.
So what ??, I can get free Audi 4WD & petrol or Subaru turbo, but I drive my own Wrangler ;)
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And company cars. Must be at least one other here?
I'm due to take up a new position at a company on Monday. We've negotiated a salary. Received my contract yesterday and I'm getting stung 13k a year since the vehicle is for personal use also. So I'm basically getting 13k less on my negotiated salary without having been informed of that during my last interview.
Go into the office, ripped it up in front of the Managing Director, throw a double bicep and walk out?
Or is this standard? In the past when having company cars I've never heard of such shit.
The use of a company car is not typically part of a compensation package. If they are charging $13,000/year for personal use that amounts to 20-25% of the yearly mileage on the vehicle that is outrageous.
Take the $13,000 in salary in you pay and use your own car. Or go buy a small economy car and beat the crap out of that.
At $13,000 a year for weekend use you're getting hosed and they are financing a new car every other year off your back.
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For 13 large it better be a Ferrari.
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A place I worked out of college gave me a company vehicle and fuel card. They told me with all the maintenance and fuel and price of the car it was worth about 11k a year. They only docked me $53 every two weeks. This was 2006. I'd never take that deal they are pushing on you.
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I get reimbursed for the tesla they make me drive
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Something is off about this story.. I provide a car for top producers but it doesn't even make sense to deduct that from their pay.. No way its 13K a year!
Also - either that is in your "contract" or it isn't.. It didn't just change.. Do you actually have a contract or is this just the employment paperwork we are talking about?
This. How could you negotiate a salary and then find out it's $13K less because they're lending you a car? This didn't come up before? At $130K a year that's a tenth of your salary! If this is a legit story it sounds really sketchy
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I'm not required to pay anything for my company car I was given, but I always make sure and tip the driver and the bartender when we head out.
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And company cars. Must be at least one other here?
I'm due to take up a new position at a company on Monday. We've negotiated a salary. Received my contract yesterday and I'm getting stung 13k a year since the vehicle is for personal use also. So I'm basically getting 13k less on my negotiated salary without having been informed of that during my last interview.
Go into the office, ripped it up in front of the Managing Director, throw a double bicep and walk out?
Or is this standard? In the past when having company cars I've never heard of such shit.
Don't sign the contract. Call their HR Department person that sent you the offer and let them know you're not signing the contract or reporting to work on Monday because of their "after the fact" negotiation tactic.
Be forceful, it will be the only time you ever have this type of leverage again.
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I thought you had to recruit five more people before they gave you the Cadillac ???
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I thought you had to recruit five more people before they gave you the Cadillac ???
That pizza doesn't deliver itself bitch!!!!!!!!
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Making sense here. I'm getting 'hosed'. I'm stealing their shit now. For sure. Starting with their pens
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fuck man, 1k/month is not cheap at all! Essh.... I understand you feeling being mislead, I don't think it's cool of them to do that.
But have no idea how this shit works. Talking to a guy who just left public transportation about a year ago...
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So do I, but I get free gasoline instead.
Petrol here :D
(we own petrol station ;))
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Work at a half decent company.
Hope this helps.
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James, you do realise that a bus is not a company car right?
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And company cars. Must be at least one other here?
I'm due to take up a new position at a company on Monday. We've negotiated a salary. Received my contract yesterday and I'm getting stung 13k a year since the vehicle is for personal use also. So I'm basically getting 13k less on my negotiated salary without having been informed of that during my last interview.
Go into the office, ripped it up in front of the Managing Director, throw a double bicep and walk out?
Or is this standard? In the past when having company cars I've never heard of such shit.
Is this 13k in tax? Or the company is reducing your salary because of the car?
If the latter, that seems quite the piss take. You have to wonder what other stuff they'd pull.
Unless your current job is quite good - I'd take the new one but keep looking for something else on the offchance they are a bunch of tightasses.
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Is this 13k in tax? Or the company is reducing your salary because of the car?
If the latter, that seems quite the piss take. You have to wonder what other stuff they'd pull.
Unless your current job is quite good - I'd take the new one but keep looking for something else on the offchance they are a bunch of tightasses.
This. If the company takes your money for providing you a car for personal use that's a bunch of bollocks, but if it's tax deduction it's legit and they can't do anything about it (other than paying you a higher salary to compensate for it but no one's gonna do that). Dunno how your country's tax authority handles non-cash benefits, but here you get charged for everything you get off of the company that can also be used privately. Phone contracts, cars, tablets etc. For cars I think it's 1% of the new value of the car + a big chunk of the insurance and taxes you'd pay otherwise over here. Also if it's the man taking your $$$ you should've known. If the company is pulling some retarded shit after the fact, call them out on it. Unless you're making so much $1000 bucks a month don't really matter.
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If you don't own a car and need one in order to perform your work duties, then there is little that you can do, besides buying a cheap car on the side and asking for your 13k back (while incurring the costs of your own car).
If you already have a car and this is their way of slashing 13k off of your salary, renegotiate and tell them that this is not part of the contract you signed.
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Is this 13k in tax? Or the company is reducing your salary because of the car?
If the latter, that seems quite the piss take. You have to wonder what other stuff they'd pull.
Unless your current job is quite good - I'd take the new one but keep looking for something else on the offchance they are a bunch of tightasses.
Thought he owned his own business... Either way, he is getting owned with a 13k reduction in salary for being "given" a company car.
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Making sense here. I'm getting 'hosed'. I'm stealing their shit now. For sure. Starting with their pens
Hosed it an understatement. You are being charged the full price of a lease and then some! I had company cars for many years and def would not take a car for 11k.
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Hosed it an understatement. You are being charged the full price of a lease and then some! I had company cars for many years and def would not take a car for 11k.
Depends on the location - is it the US? I know he quoted dollars but he may have converted it.
In the UK - you'd pay tax for the car which would be higher the less mileage you did. You'd also pay tax on fuel allowance.
If it's for the lease - that's a lot of car in the US for over $1,000 a month. Tell them you will take a bicycle to work and just use the car for business use and zero personal use.
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If you don't own a car and need one in order to perform your work duties, then there is little that you can do, besides buying a cheap car on the side and asking for your 13k back (while incurring the costs of your own car).
If you already have a car and this is their way of slashing 13k off of your salary, renegotiate and tell them that this is not part of the contract you signed.
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Those specially build Jeep Wranglers for Israel army look good ;)
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Making sense here. I'm getting 'hosed'. I'm stealing their shit now. For sure. Starting with their pens
Get creative with that car and your contraband.
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Until about 18 months ago I received company car/maintenance/insurance/gas and both personal and work use assumed for past 12 years.....this no doubt was factored into my base pay (worked Pharma sales). Providing rep with company transportation in that case cheaper for company than mileage reimbursement for reps in big drive territories.
For past year and half I have been in a non-Pharma environment but still work in outside sales.....much prefer receiving mileage money and freedom to pick out my own car compared to having shitboxes to drive from employer.
Factoring 13k for company car sounds ludicrous. I would counter with offer of driving your own vehicle for mileage money and maybe try to get them to pick up insurance.
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This exactly. That is a hell of a lot of money to use a company car.
Indeed. If I was the OP I would take the car and rally it on the weekends then when they ask why the car is filthy and covered in branches scrapes and dents then you can say you were just getting your money's worth.
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Counter their offer with the math reversed. Instead of subtracting $13k pa for the use of a company car for personal use on the weekend, 2 days out of 7, propose that you use your own car 7 days out of 7, 5 of which are work days. Since they've established that a car is worth $6500 per day over the course of a year, (5 work days) x ($6500), add $32,500 to your proposed yearly salary.
What are they gonna say? $6500 per day is too much? It's their number.
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My company car came with no charge gas, free tolls,insurance, maintenance, loaner cars, and was replaced every three years. No decrease to pay.
My personal car for 17 years was a Toyota Tercel that I used to buy beer or socks at Walmart. That car just ran perfect forever. Changed the oil with synthetic oil every 3 K. Sold it to some college kid four years ago and he said it's runs with zero problems. That car is 21 years old with nothing breaking in it. Just normal maintenance. When I retired I finally got a new car.
My last work car was Dodge Durango. In four wheel lock with turn of a switch I could get out of any snow. Horrifically bad gas mileage. Never came close to the sticker rating.
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My company car wears horseshoes made of titanium.
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Until about 18 months ago I received company car/maintenance/insurance/gas and both personal and work use assumed for past 12 years.....this no doubt was factored into my base pay (worked Pharma sales). Providing rep with company transportation in that case cheaper for company than mileage reimbursement for reps in big drive territories.
For past year and half I have been in a non-Pharma environment but still work in outside sales.....much prefer receiving mileage money and freedom to pick out my own car compared to having shitboxes to drive from employer.
Factoring 13k for company car sounds ludicrous. I would counter with offer of driving your own vehicle for mileage money and maybe try to get them to pick up insurance.
I was in medical devise sales and they charged about 120 per month to cover personal use etc and covered all costs. They rotated vehicles at about 70k miles and I always seemed to have a Ford Explorer.
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I was in medical devise sales and they charged about 120 per month to cover personal use etc and covered all costs. They rotated vehicles at about 70k miles and I always seemed to have a Ford Explorer.
Two of three companies I worked at charged nominal $25-30 payroll deduction for personal use with monthly payroll deduction. Last company had no personal use charge.
We also rotated out every 70k miles. Pharma companies seemed to favor Chrysler jeep dodge products since FCA practically gives units away in fleet sales to bolster their annual sales numbers.
There are few joys greater than taking out frustrations with company car.....especially if it was a Fiat/Chrysler product.
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Counter their offer with the math reversed. Instead of subtracting $13k pa for the use of a company car for personal use on the weekend, 2 days out of 7, propose that you use your own car 7 days out of 7, 5 of which are work days. Since they've established that a car is worth $6500 per day over the course of a year, (5 work days) x ($6500), add $32,500 to your proposed yearly salary.
What are they gonna say? $6500 per day is too much? It's their number.
I like this one.
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Thanks, I got it from Ned Beatty's The Art of the Squeal.