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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Vince G, CSN MFT on June 30, 2015, 06:00:13 PM
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Well, this is pretty odd. I'll hopefully have more information shortly but the summary is that IML is suing Blackstone for trademark infringement of "Super DMZ". Not sure why this has happenned :-\
https://www.rfcexpress.com/lawsuits/trademark-lawsuits/california-central-district-court/956285/ironmag-labs-llc-v-blackstone-labs-llc-et-al/summary/
RFC Case Number: T-I15-3984B
Court Case Number: 2:15-cv-03984-SJO-JC
File Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2015
Plaintiff: IronMag Labs, LLC
Plaintiff Counsel: Chelsea A. Epps, Lucas K. Hori, Ravi Mohan of Rutan & Tucker LLP
Defendant: Blackstone Labs, LLC
Does
Cause: 28:1338 Trademark Infringement
Court: California Central District Court
Judge: Judge S. James Otero
Referred To: Magistrate Judge Jacqueline Chooljian
Notes:
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Date # Docket Text
5/27/2015 8 21 DAY Summons Issued re Complaint (Attorney Civil Case Opening), 1 as to Defendant Blackstone Labs, LLC. (ghap) (Entered: 05/27/2015)
5/27/2015 7 NOTICE TO PARTIES OF COURT-DIRECTED ADR PROGRAM filed. (ghap) (Entered: 05/27/2015)
5/27/2015 6 NOTICE OF ASSIGNMENT to District Judge S. James Otero and Magistrate Judge Jacqueline Chooljian. (ghap) (Entered: 05/27/2015)
5/27/2015 5 Request for Clerk to Issue Summons on Civil Cover Sheet (CV-71) 3 , Complaint (Attorney Civil Case Opening), 1 , Report on Filing of Patent/Trademark Action (Initial Notification)(AO 120) 4 , Certificate/Notice of Interested Parties 2 filed by Plaintiff Ironmag Labs, LLC. (Epps, Chelsea April) (Entered: 05/27/2015)
5/27/2015 4 REPORT ON THE FILING OF AN ACTION Regarding a Patent or a Trademark (Initial Notification) filed by Ironmag Labs, LLC. (Epps, Chelsea April) (Entered: 05/27/2015)
5/27/2015 3 CIVIL COVER SHEET filed by Plaintiff Ironmag Labs, LLC. (Epps, Chelsea April) (Entered: 05/27/2015)
5/27/2015 2 CERTIFICATE of Interested Parties filed by Plaintiff Ironmag Labs, LLC, (Epps, Chelsea April) (Entered: 05/27/2015)
5/27/2015 1 COMPLAINT Receipt No: 0973-15792376 - Fee: $400, filed by Plaintiff Ironmag Labs, LLC. (Attachments: # 1 Exhibit A to Complaint, # 2 Exhibit B to Complaint) (Attorney Chelsea April Richardson Epps added to party Ironmag Labs, LLC(pty:pla))(Epps, Chelsea April) (Entered: 05/27/2015)
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Does anyone here give a rats ass ?
You seem obsessed with these guys
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Most likely IML is trying to draw attention to BSL. Possibly trying to get the FDA and/or DEA to take interest in BSL. That way they can have them out of the business for good. Sounds like Aaron and PJ pissed of the wrong people. :D
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Funny, I always thought they were one of the same.
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Funny, I always thought they were one of the same.
I also had this impression. I,d be curious to know what the actual sales figures are for these " grey market" companies
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IML's attorney. Would hit
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Prob by the end of the year blackstone will be out of business
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Well, BSL is not selling anything illegal and they have no business holdings involving it. IML on the other hand is openly selling Clen and other stuff at IronMag Research. Its basically suicide for them and Aaron is not going to lose a wink of sleep as they are financially healthy and a much larger company than IML at this point
vince who puts in more work to make blackstone pretend to be a successful company to the idiots that believe the bullshit?
Dave Palumbo's Aaron or Evan's sidekick PJ??
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I need some peejay thong pics asap!
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Well, Straw......this is just the beginning of an epic thread. This has been quietly been brewing for a few months and there's a lot of insider stuff that's going to come out very soon that's going tos spread to a number of people like a virus. Really nasty stuff.
Trust me..
You are a fucking wannabe.
Leech.
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Well, Straw......this is just the beginning of an epic thread. This has been quietly been brewing for a few months and there's a lot of insider stuff that's going to come out very soon that's going tos spread to a number of people like a virus. Really nasty stuff.
Trust me..
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An isolated black eye in the otherwise pristine world of muscle-building and diet supplements.
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Well, Straw......this is just the beginning of an epic thread. This has been quietly been brewing for a few months and there's a lot of insider stuff that's going to come out very soon that's going tos spread to a number of people like a virus. Really nasty stuff.
Trust me..
Nobody gives a fuck whether you and these 'people' die tonight.
You're irrelevant, like the irrelevant shitheads that own these 'companies'.
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vince
you never did tell us how your supplement experiment - with their products went?
why is that?
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Well, BSL is not selling anything illegal and they have no business holdings involving it. IML on the other hand is openly selling Clen and other stuff at IronMag Research. Its basically suicide for them and Aaron is not going to lose a wink of sleep as they are financially healthy and a much larger company than IML at this point
Wait...
So a synthetic drug candidate from Merck (their product "MK-ULTRA") and another synthetic drug candidate from GTx Pharmaceutical are "not illegal"? Those Blackstone products are illegal. Period. Selling those unapproved new drug candidates as supplements is as illegal as it gets.
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Vince has more estrogen than
Bruce Caitlyn Jenner
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Another post about these idiots, really Vince... Next time, don't bother.
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Well, Straw......this is just the beginning of an epic thread. This has been quietly been brewing for a few months and there's a lot of insider stuff that's going to come out very soon that's going tos spread to a number of people like a virus. Really nasty stuff.
Trust me..
nope, triple V. This is a shitty thread. Hope this helps.
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Trade Marking Vince & Roz FATness Centre name could be interesting ;D
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vince
you never did tell us how your supplement experiment - with their products went?
why is that?
;D
I'll save that thread for another day.
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BSL & Prime are not doing as well as they pretend to be
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Well, Straw......this is just the beginning of an epic thread. This has been quietly been brewing for a few months and there's a lot of insider stuff that's going to come out very soon that's going tos spread to a number of people like a virus. Really nasty stuff.
Trust me..
He's talking about AIDs. Trust him...
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Well, I spoke with Louis Uridel for about an hour last night. He apparently tried to get Aaron and PJ to make an agreement never to use the trademark "Super DMZ" on their products. Recently, they came out with Super DMZ 4.0 and with the product selling for 99 buck retails, they were afraid that Aaron would copy the formula and start using the same thing. Apparently, the response Louis received was to pretty much go fuck himself so Rob decided to not only file suit against BSL but in addition to sue for retroactive royalties on the original Super DMZ.
I honestly do not have any dog in this fight but I didn't think it was a good idea to take this to the courts. The Super DMZ name has too many trap doors and alarms roaming around. Its practically a calling card for the Feds and the lawsuit makes it even more louder. But they are going through with it. Louis isn't doing the litigation because he was hired as an attorney at counsel so he's basically a liason and deals more with the paperwork side of IML.
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Well, I spoke with Louis Uridel for about an hour last night. He apparently tried to get Aaron and PJ to make an agreement never to use the trademark "Super DMZ" on their products. Recently, they came out with Super DMZ 4.0 and with the product selling for 99 buck retails, they were afraid that Aaron would copy the formula and start using the same thing. Apparently, the response Louis received was to pretty much go fuck himself so Rob decided to not only file suit against BSL but in addition to sue for retroactive royalties on the original Super DMZ.
I honestly do not have any dog in this fight but I didn't think it was a good idea to take this to the courts. The Super DMZ name has too many trap doors and alarms roaming around. Its practically a calling card for the Feds and the lawsuit makes it even more louder. But they are going through with it. Louis isn't doing the litigation because he was hired as an attorney at counsel so he's basically a liason and deals more with the paperwork side of IML.
no one thought you did and no one cares
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Vince can you address Rumors that Aaron and TJ are haemorrhaging cash?
The loss of most of their BSL Products and shitty protein powder are plummeting sales.
Prime nutition is doing worse: http://ca.bodybuilding.com/store/popular-brands.html?&_requestid=1422582 (http://ca.bodybuilding.com/store/popular-brands.html?&_requestid=1422582)
And their latest FAILED business venture is a protein shake shop.
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Vince can you address Rumors that Aaron and TJ are haemorrhaging cash?
The loss of most of their BSL Products and shitty protein powder are plummeting sales.
Prime nutition is doing worse: http://ca.bodybuilding.com/store/popular-brands.html?&_requestid=1422582 (http://ca.bodybuilding.com/store/popular-brands.html?&_requestid=1422582)
And their latest FAILED business venture is a protein shake shop.
Vince will spin it but they are not doing well. Like many supplement companies they came out of the gate fast, they got on bb.com, into Vitamin Shoppe and there was buzz because they were the new company but now their product is not turning well. They have not distinguished themselves in any way.
I talk to a lot of distributors on a regular basis and their product is not moving. Several of their athletes have left them as well.
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Vince can you address Rumors that Aaron and TJ are haemorrhaging cash?
The loss of most of their BSL Products and shitty protein powder are plummeting sales.
Prime nutition is doing worse: http://ca.bodybuilding.com/store/popular-brands.html?&_requestid=1422582 (http://ca.bodybuilding.com/store/popular-brands.html?&_requestid=1422582)
And their latest FAILED business venture is a protein shake shop.
Its not of your business but what you say just simply isn't true
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Vince will spin it but they are not doing well. Like many supplement companies they came out of the gate fast, they got on bb.com, into Vitamin Shoppe and there was buzz because they were the new company but now their product is not turning well. They have not distinguished themselves in any way.
I talk to a lot of distributors on a regular basis and their product is not moving. Several of their athletes have left them as well.
Its Aaron and PJ's job to make the products. Its up to the distributors to market and advertise them. If they can't sell BSL and Prime then they are not selling much of anything else. No supplement company can be held responsible for the success of someone else's business
Remember that the company was built up without any assistance from BB.com or Vitamin Shoppe....mainly through selling directly from the website. So your statements hold no water
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Its Aaron and PJ's job to make the products. Its up to the distributors to market and advertise them. If they can't sell BSL and Prime then they are not selling much of anything else. No supplement company can be held responsible for the success of someone else's business
Remember that the company was built up without any assistance from BB.com or Vitamin Shoppe....mainly through selling directly from the website. So your statements hold no water
You continue to prove that you have no idea how the supplement industry works
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I'll just leave this here:
http://www.ironmagazine.com/2015/prime-nutrition-innovators-or-copycats/
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Wait...
So a synthetic drug candidate from Merck (their product "MK-ULTRA") and another synthetic drug candidate from GTx Pharmaceutical are "not illegal"? Those Blackstone products are illegal. Period. Selling those unapproved new drug candidates as supplements is as illegal as it gets.
Any comment on this, Vince? Do you stand by your opinion that they're not selling anything illegal?
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Does anyone here give a rats ass ?
You seem obsessed with these guys
Nope,i sure as shit dont.
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I'll just leave this here:
http://www.ironmagazine.com/2015/prime-nutrition-innovators-or-copycats/
Oh SHIIIIIIIIT
no suprises here: between the two of them there isn't more than 3 neurons
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Come on, everybody knows that the business was based on selling legal drugs through a loop hole.
Now that the loop hole is closed, all of these types of companies are going to start to disappear.
Why would anyone buy creatine & whey from these guys?
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Vince will spin it but they are not doing well. Like many supplement companies they came out of the gate fast, they got on bb.com, into Vitamin Shoppe and there was buzz because they were the new company but now their product is not turning well. They have not distinguished themselves in any way.
I talk to a lot of distributors on a regular basis and their product is not moving. Several of their athletes have left them as well.
Leave Jason Genova out of this.
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Its Aaron and PJ's job to make the products. Its up to the distributors to market and advertise them. If they can't sell BSL and Prime then they are not selling much of anything else. No supplement company can be held responsible for the success of someone else's business
Remember that the company was built up without any assistance from BB.com or Vitamin Shoppe....mainly through selling directly from the website. So your statements hold no water
how come the other 40+brands on BB.com ranked before prime have no troubles doing well?
And Vince how do u feel for being responsible for destroying prime's image and reputation on here? U are solely responsible for destroying the company image. U alone congrats!!
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Its Aaron and PJ's job to make the products. Its up to the distributors to market and advertise them. If they can't sell BSL and Prime then they are not selling much of anything else. No supplement company can be held responsible for the success of someone else's business
Remember that the company was built up without any assistance from BB.com or Vitamin Shoppe....mainly through selling directly from the website. So your statements hold no water
Jesus Christ we have some dumb sons of bitches on Getbig
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Its Aaron and PJ's job to make the products. Its up to the distributors to market and advertise them. If they can't sell BSL and Prime then they are not selling much of anything else. No supplement company can be held responsible for the success of someone else's business
This is where you make it abundantly clear that you have no idea who to run a successful business.
It's their job to make, market, advertise & everything else related to their products.
It is NOT the job of a distributor to market or advertise a product.
The end is near, as the company made their impact selling legal drugs & now that loop hole is closing in fast & they have to try & sell regular supps & they just can't compete in that area.
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This is crazy news! I'm glad you posted the case schedule so I can follow it that much closer! This is gonna be a hoot of a summer!
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CNN is blowing up with this news now.
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Oh boy....you guys are as dumb as hell about things..... ::)
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Oh boy....you guys are as dumb as hell about things..... ::)
We sure are. No one knows the inside out of how a successful business is run like Melvin Goodrum.
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Any new updates?
06-12 STIPULATION Extending Time to Answer the complaint as to Blackstone Labs, LLC answer now due 7/22/2015, re Complaint (Attorney Civil Case Opening),1 filed by defendant Blackstone Labs, LLC.(Attorney Daniel Scott Silverman added to party Blackstone Labs, LLC(pty:dft))(Silverman, Daniel)
06-18 PROOF OF SERVICE Executed by Plaintiff IronMag Labs, LLC, upon Defendant Blackstone Labs, LLC served on 6/1/2015, answer due 7/22/2015. Service of the Summons and Complaint were executed upon Aaron Singerman - Agent for Service of Process in compliance with California Code of Civil Procedure by substituted service at business address and by also mailing a copy. Original Summons returned. (Adams, Michael)
07-21 STIPULATION to Change Venue to the Southern District of Florida Pursuant to 28 U.S.C. Section 1404(a) filed by defendant Blackstone Labs, LLC.(Silverman, Daniel)
07-22 ORDER TRANSFERRING VENUE TO THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA PURSUANT TO 28 U.S.C. 1404(a)by Judge S. James Otero (MD JS-6. Case Terminated.) (lc)
07-23 REPORT ON THE DETERMINATION OF AN ACTION Regarding a Patent or Trademark. (Closing) (lc)
07-24 RECEIVED Notice of Receipt of Electronic Case Transfer from California Central: case has been opened in Southern District of Florida as case 9:15-cv-81036.
New case number
Case Number: 9:15-cv-81036
Court: Florida Southern
Nature of Suit: Trademark
08-10 ~Util - Set/Reset Hearings, Order Referring Case to Judg
08-20 Order on Motion to Appear Pro Hac Vice, Order on Motion to Appear Pro Hac Vic
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I tried to arrange a truce in the matter but to no avail. The case is proceeding and because its in litigation, no-one is going to comment on it until its done. It will be completed somewhere in late 2017
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I tried to arrange a truce in the matter but to no avail. The case is proceeding and because its in litigation, no-one is going to comment on it until its done. It will be completed somewhere in late 2017
You're no Harley, that's for damned sure.
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You're no Harley, that's for damned sure.
Aaron is going to wish he spoke to Harley. He's my dawg but if he hadn't told Joe to go fuck himself, there would have been no lawsuit.
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Aaron is going to wish he spoke to Harley. He's my dawg but if he hadn't told Joe to go fuck himself, there would have been no lawsuit.
oh brother
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You're no Harley, that's for damned sure.
agreed
Thank god Harley came on to replace Vince
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Oh boy....you guys are as dumb as hell about things..... ::)
So you're actually trying to tell people they are dumb for pointing out the obvious logical problem with your argument?
To suggest that a manufacturer can relax and simply manufacture is ridiculous. It doesn't work that way. The manufacturer has to be active in all aspects of their business and if the distributor is not selling units, it most definitely IS a problem for the manufacturer.
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I tried to arrange a truce in the matter but to no avail. The case is proceeding and because its in litigation, no-one is going to comment on it until its done. It will be completed somewhere in late 2017
It's sad to think that in your mind, you actually thought that you could work as a go between & arrange a truce. ::)
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Venom Vince Versace, The Trucemaker, The Problemsolver, The Bitcoin Trendsetter :D
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How much does Vince charge for his mediation services? I have a dispute with Anerican Express. They think I owe money for a laptop I bought three years ago but it doesn't even work anymore.
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seems like it wasn't such a good idea for them to drop jason "the franchise" genova.