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Title: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2015, 07:43:12 PM
Separate but equal.  What really was the issue or problem? 

I think a little discrimination should be Constitutional.  Why is it only considered discriminatory one way, when Separate But Equal applied both ways?   :D
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2015, 07:51:01 PM
Separate but equal.  What really was the issue or problem? 

I think a little discrimination should be Constitutional.  Why is it only considered discriminatory one way, when Separate But Equal applied both ways?   :D


The facilities of colored individuals were highly inferior to white facilities.  In addition, I enjoy dining in rather than going around back for food that was either taken from the trash or spit in.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2015, 08:02:53 PM

The facilities of colored individuals were highly inferior to white facilities.  In addition, I enjoy dining in rather than going around back for food that was either taken from the trash or spit in.
Why though?  Could they not build their own establishments?
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2015, 08:06:03 PM

The facilities of colored individuals were highly inferior to white facilities.  In addition, I enjoy dining in rather than going around back for food that was either taken from the trash or spit in.
Why bother with white establishments though?  I wouldn`t if I was black during segregation.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Howard on July 10, 2015, 08:17:39 PM
Separate but equal.  What really was the issue or problem? 

I think a little discrimination should be Constitutional.  Why is it only considered discriminatory one way, when Separate But Equal applied both ways?   :D

The 1954 decision of Brown vs the Bd of education argued by Thurgood Marshall overturned the previous Plessy vs Ferguson law of Separate but Equal.

The constitution is pretty clear on no discrimination based on race, religion , etc.
The SCOTUS recently used the 14th amendment and gender discrimination to make same sex marriage the law of the land.

Politics and social interaction has a huge effect on how our society will function in addition to laws.

I've often wondered how historically black colleges could still operate now?
I suspect no white student ever challenged any of their policies?

What does bug me is in the world of sports where all white is considered evil and all black is a non issue.
In hockey or swimming, many claim it's social injustice if more blacks aren't competing.
BUT, when the 100m track final is all black, nobody says a word.

In my view, we should all operate under the same basic standards of conduct and respect the laws.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: OlympiaGym on July 10, 2015, 08:21:03 PM
The Nuremberg Race Laws would be even better. A more comprehensive approach to what ails us.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 10, 2015, 08:23:35 PM
Why bother with white establishments though?  I wouldn`t if I was black during segregation.

your ignorance is amazing....but typical since whites aren't taught the truth about slavery/segregation/Jim Crow
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Howard on July 10, 2015, 08:24:58 PM
Why bother with white establishments though?  I wouldn`t if I was black during segregation.
The options for blacks were very limited then.
The problem with that , is  it assumes everyone of "your race" ( black or white) is good and everyone else is evil.
If everyone would just accept a basic code of conduct we'd all be better off.

Sounds cliche' but  I try to judge people based on how they act around me.
I try to avoid any advance bias .

If someone acts like a thug, then they are. If they act classy, then they are.  Pretty simple
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: OlympiaGym on July 10, 2015, 08:25:31 PM
your ignorance is amazing....but typical since whites aren't taught the truth about slavery/segregation/Jim Crow

He's not white. His skin color is white but he's not white.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Howard on July 10, 2015, 08:28:32 PM
The Nuremberg Race Laws would be even better. A more comprehensive approach to what ails us.

How the Nazis claimed religion  was racial/genetic is beyond me?
Nobody is born a Jew, Muslim or Christian!  It's taught and part of culture NOT genetics.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2015, 08:34:20 PM
The 1954 decision of Brown vs the Bd of education argued by Thurgood Marshall overturned the previous Plessy vs Ferguson law of Separate but Equal.

The constitution is pretty clear on no discrimination based on race, religion , etc.
The SCOTUS recently used the 14th amendment and gender discrimination to make same sex marriage the law of the land.

Politics and social interaction has a huge effect on how our society will function in addition to laws.

I've often wondered how historically black colleges could still operate now?
I suspect no white student ever challenged any of their policies?

What does bug me is in the world of sports where all white is considered evil and all black is a non issue.
In hockey or swimming, many claim it's social injustice if more blacks aren't competing.
BUT, when the 100m track final is all black, nobody says a word.

In my view, we should all operate under the same basic standards of conduct and respect the laws.
Segregation was certainly Constitutional at one time.  If you read the case, segregation was more or less tossed by a technicality of sorts. 

Why do you think whites had no issue with it writ large when the same law applied to them as did blacks?
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2015, 08:35:55 PM
The options for blacks were very limited then.
The problem with that , is  it assumes everyone of "your race" ( black or white) is good and everyone else is evil.
If everyone would just accept a basic code of conduct we'd all be better off.

Sounds cliche' but  I try to judge people based on how they act around me.
I try to avoid any advance bias .

If someone acts like a thug, then they are. If they act classy, then they are.  Pretty simple
Not the case always.  I was talking with an old black woman, she is 82 and she said she had "no problems with segregation and that whites were decent to her and blacks were decent to whites, not like today"- her words.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 10, 2015, 08:36:38 PM
How the Nazis claimed religion  was racial/genetic is beyond me?
Nobody is born a Jew, Muslim or Christian!  It's taught and part of culture NOT genetics.

It actually is genetic hence why jews are born with certain characteristics and genetic diseases such as Tay-Sachs
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 10, 2015, 08:37:50 PM
Segregation was certainly Constitutional at one time.  If you read the case, segregation was more or less tossed by a technicality of sorts. 

Why do you think whites had no issue with it writ large when the same law applied to them as did blacks?

you can't be serious,..you absolutely must be trolling
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2015, 08:37:52 PM
The options for blacks were very limited then.
The problem with that , is  it assumes everyone of "your race" ( black or white) is good and everyone else is evil.
If everyone would just accept a basic code of conduct we'd all be better off.

Sounds cliche' but  I try to judge people based on how they act around me.
I try to avoid any advance bias .

If someone acts like a thug, then they are. If they act classy, then they are.  Pretty simple
I agree, but cultural identities are hard things to shake and one culture tends to be overwhelmingly negative, moreso than others in this country.  It shows no signs of going anywhere either.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2015, 08:38:40 PM
you can't be serious,..you absolutely must be trolling
Separate but equal applied to whites the same as it did to blacks.  What was the issue?
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 10, 2015, 08:41:30 PM
Separate but equal applied to whites the same as it did to blacks.  What was the issue?

If this has to be explained to you then my comment about not being taught the truth about slavery/Jim Crow was accurate
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2015, 08:42:14 PM
If this has to be explained to you then my comment about not being taught the truth about slavery/Jim Crow was accurate
Are you saying Separate But Equal did not apply to whites as well as blacks?   ???  ???  ???
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Howard on July 10, 2015, 08:46:23 PM
I agree, but cultural identities are hard things to shake and one culture tends to be overwhelmingly negative, moreso than others in this country.  It shows no signs of going anywhere either.

True, that has an even bigger effect in group dynamics.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2015, 08:50:21 PM
If this has to be explained to you then my comment about not being taught the truth about slavery/Jim Crow was accurate
I am failing to see any bad laws listed really, can you please highlight one and tell me why it was bad?  For instance, one Jim Crow law allowed whites and blacks to marry each other.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jim_Crow_law_examples_by_state
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2015, 08:51:55 PM
Why though?  Could they not build their own establishments?


They did with their tax dollars for schools.  However the vast majority of the money went to the white schools.  Segregation failed because it was never equal.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2015, 08:52:14 PM
If this has to be explained to you then my comment about not being taught the truth about slavery/Jim Crow was accurate

Here is one Jim Crow Law in Connecticut:
1925: Antidefamation [Statute] Prohibited motion picture theaters from showing any film which ridiculed the Negro race

Now was that a bad one?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jim_Crow_law_examples_by_state

You have no clue about history whatsoever.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2015, 08:54:25 PM

They did with their tax dollars for schools.  However the vast majority of the money went to the white schools.  Segregation failed because it was never equal.
Evidence?

Now the black schools tend to get more and they still continue to perform poorly.  When people talk of "good schools" why are the referring to schools with the population being white majority and not black, even when the black schools get more money these days?   

Good Schools never means black majority schools.  Why?  ???
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: calfzilla on July 10, 2015, 08:59:56 PM
White people segregate themselves as long as they have enough money. 
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Nordic Beast on July 10, 2015, 09:00:22 PM
Watched a recent Internet video of 40 blacks jumping a solitary white man into bloody unconciousness. Must have have been another 50 black men and females looking on and encouraging it.

Imagine if the colors were reversed?? It would be on every channel, shown every 5 minutes.

 Futhermore white people would have stepped in and stopped the beating quickly, especially the white women would have been outraged and horrified. The black woman instead looked on with satisfaction. Reverse racism and hate is so easily accepted today.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2015, 09:05:09 PM
What is the problem with this law:  ???

1912: Residential
Building permits for building Negro houses in white communities, or any portion of a community inhabited principally by white people, and vice versa prohibited. Penalty: violators fined from $50 to $2,000, "and the municipality shall have the right to cause said building to be removed and destroyed."
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: pellius on July 10, 2015, 09:12:24 PM
Separate but equal.  What really was the issue or problem? 

I think a little discrimination should be Constitutional.  Why is it only considered discriminatory one way, when Separate But Equal applied both ways?   :D

People are, or should, and in reality do, associate AND not associate with anyone they choose. When force together that's when the trouble starts.

And discrimination use to be considered a good thing and it is a good thing and everyone does it but some just lie about it (like when they say they are not "judgemental"). It means you have standards. "A man with discriminating taste" was a common compliment.

People tend to congregate on the basis of shared values and interest rather than race. It's just most associate it with racial discrimination. But in reality it not so much race per se but the culture. Black inner city culture based on being a thug, violent, loud and hostile is repulsive regardless of race. In Hawaii we don't have a lot of Blacks but we have Micronesians which is a gutter and parasitic culture. Micronesians are more like vermin than predators that you would associate with kneeguls.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2015, 09:15:07 PM
Evidence?

Now the black schools tend to get more and they still continue to perform poorly.  When people talk of "good schools" why are the referring to schools with the population being white majority and not black, even when the black schools get more money these days?   

Good Schools never means black majority schools.  Why?  ???


The evidence was simply that people didn't like it.  Honestly, before the law took place, schools and restaurants were naturally segregated anyway.  Once the law was put in, that's when people really gave it much thought and that's when things got shitty and for whatever reason, people used the law to their advantage at the expense of blacks.  

It is weird though, sometimes when I go to a white families house for dinner, I have the urge to take my food to the living room or outside on the porch.  Generally speaking, natural segregration works better than forced segregation.  

Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2015, 09:16:09 PM
People are, or should, and in reality do, associate AND not associate with anyone they choose. When force together that's when the trouble starts.

And discrimination use to be considered a good thing and it is a good thing and everyone does it but some just lie about it (like when they say they are not "judgemental"). It means you have standards. "A man with discriminating taste" was a common compliment.

People tend to congregate on the basis of shared values and interest rather than race. It's just most associate it with racial discrimination. But in reality it not so much race per se but the culture. Black inner city culture based on being a thug, violent, loud and hostile is repulsive regardless of race. In Hawaii we don't have a lot of Blacks but we have Micronesians which is a gutter and parasitic culture. Micronesians are more like vermin than predators that you would associate with kneeguls.
Exactly.  Just as Asians have their own group.  I have no interest in joining their group or doing Asian things and I am fine with it.  Completely.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 10, 2015, 09:20:05 PM
Watched a recent Internet video of 40 blacks jumping a solitary white man into bloody unconciousness. Must have have been another 50 black men and females looking on and encouraging it.

Imagine if the colors were reversed?? It would be on every channel, shown every 5 minutes.

 Futhermore white people would have stepped in and stopped the beating quickly, especially the white women would have been outraged and horrified. The black woman instead looked on with satisfaction. Reverse racism and hate is so easily accepted today.
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Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: pellius on July 10, 2015, 09:21:34 PM
There's a difference between institutionalized racism and racist. There will always be racist everywhere and at one point America had institutionalize racism. Racism practiced and enforced by government policy and law. But Jim Crow laws proved that America wasn't as racist as perceived.

What is a law? Isn't it to prevent certain types of behavior that otherwise would be engage in broadly if there were no such laws? Wouldn't more people steal if it was legal.

The reason we had Jim Crow laws was because people were, generally speaking, treating Blacks equally as far as day to day transactions. Not all, but most. Just like today. They were allowing them into diners and other businesses that served the public. If they weren't. If the majority of the population discriminated against Blacks then there would be no need for such laws.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: pellius on July 10, 2015, 09:23:21 PM
Exactly.  Just as Asians have their own group.  I have no interest in joining their group or doing Asian things and I am fine with it.  Completely.

And I'm sure they are more than fine with you not joining their group as well.   ;D
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: pellius on July 10, 2015, 09:29:03 PM

The evidence was simply that people didn't like it.  Honestly, before the law took place, schools and restaurants were naturally segregated anyway.  Once the law was put in, that's when people really gave it much thought and that's when things got shitty and for whatever reason, people used the law to their advantage at the expense of blacks.  

It is weird though, sometimes when I go to a white families house for dinner, I have the urge to take my food to the living room or outside on the porch.  Generally speaking In all cases, natural segregration works better than forced segregation.


Whether it's in high school, work office, an aircraft carrier (where my brother was stationed), people will tend to associate with those who share a common value system or common interest or both. When you force people to be together that don't want to be then trouble starts. Try get Mexicans and Blacks living together. Why bother? And why promote needless violence that could so easily be avoided.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Parker on July 10, 2015, 09:38:16 PM
The 1954 decision of Brown vs the Bd of education argued by Thurgood Marshall overturned the previous Plessy vs Ferguson law of Separate but Equal.

The constitution is pretty clear on no discrimination based on race, religion , etc.
The SCOTUS recently used the 14th amendment and gender discrimination to make same sex marriage the law of the land.

Politics and social interaction has a huge effect on how our society will function in addition to laws.

I've often wondered how historically black colleges could still operate now?
I suspect no white student ever challenged any of their policies?


What does bug me is in the world of sports where all white is considered evil and all black is a non issue.
In hockey or swimming, many claim it's social injustice if more blacks aren't competing.
BUT, when the 100m track final is all black, nobody says a word.

In my view, we should all operate under the same basic standards of conduct and respect the laws.
You do know that white students do go to HBCUs?
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 10, 2015, 09:40:50 PM
Whether it's in high school, work office, an aircraft carrier (where my brother was stationed), people will tend to associate with those who share a common value system or common interest or both. When you force people to be together that don't want to be then trouble starts. Try get Mexicans and Blacks living together. Why bother? And why promote needless violence that could so easily be avoided.
http://demographics.coopercenter.org/DotMap/
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The Ugly on July 10, 2015, 10:42:40 PM
How the Nazis claimed religion  was racial/genetic is beyond me?
Nobody is born a Jew, Muslim or Christian!  It's taught and part of culture NOT genetics.

Not necessarily true anymore. Ethnicity and religion have melded together for so long (especially with Jews - Muslims, to a lesser extent, maybe), it's now more semantical.

Technically, though, you're right. In the same way that there are really only three races.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: pellius on July 10, 2015, 11:02:46 PM
Not necessarily true anymore. Ethnicity and religion have melded together for so long (especially with Jews - Muslims, to a lesser extent, maybe), it's now more semantical.

Technically, though, you're right. In the same way that there are really only three races.

I know that Jews can be both a religion and ethnicity but is it the same case as Muslims? I associate Muslims primarily with Arabs.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: pellius on July 10, 2015, 11:06:21 PM
http://demographics.coopercenter.org/DotMap/

Didn't click on the link but props to Kenneth Cooper and the Cooper Center for expanding their field of study. Their work on aerobics back in the 70s-80s was truly ground breaking though much of their claims has been bebunk in light of new evidence.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The Ugly on July 10, 2015, 11:07:15 PM
I know that Jews can be both a religion and ethnicity but is it the same case as Muslims? I associate Muslims primarily with Arabs.

Not as educated here, sorry. Maybe should have limited it to Jews alone. Mostly meant to exclude Christians, really.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: syntaxmachine on July 10, 2015, 11:51:17 PM
your ignorance is amazing....but typical since whites aren't taught the truth about slavery/segregation/Jim Crow

Epic castigating TrueAnus for racially insensitive ignorance whilst simultaneously judging literally all white people in the very same sentence of peace.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: local hero on July 10, 2015, 11:59:40 PM
There's clearly more than 3 races...

Black
White
Oriental
Indian/paki
Arab
Hispanic
Pure jewish

Even as far as whites, a Scandinavian looks different to an Italian for example, or a polish block head, or a ginger Irishman etc etc
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Automation on July 11, 2015, 12:03:54 AM
TA proving he is still the best troll on GB.....
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The Ugly on July 11, 2015, 12:39:02 AM
There's clearly more than 3 races...

Black
White
Oriental
Indian/paki
Arab
Hispanic
Pure jewish

Even as far as whites, a Scandinavian looks different to an Italian for example, or a polish block head, or a ginger Irishman etc etc

Missed my point.

Just as "Jewish" was initially/solely a religion; race, too, was historically simplified - there were three: Mongoloid (Asian and its offshoots), Negroid (darkies of various darkness), and Caucasoid (The Man and his palefaced brethren).

Please follow the conversation.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: falco on July 11, 2015, 03:29:43 AM
Bodybuilders are segregated by obese people also.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Rami on July 11, 2015, 03:44:45 AM
In this particular case there was lack of evidence of their alleged crime (rape) for which they were lynched. It's hard to get someones opinion from experience. Few people have survived execution. But is perhaps the electric chair and firing squad more humane as a method of death for criminal scumbags? I was just thinking of this now that they are looking for alternatives to lethal injection. There must be cheaper, faster and more elegant solutions.



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Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 11, 2015, 05:37:14 AM
In this particular case there was lack of evidence of their alleged crime (rape) for which they were lynched. It's hard to get someones opinion from experience. Few people have survived execution. But is perhaps the electric chair and firing squad more humane as a method of death for criminal scumbags? I was just thinking of this now that they are looking for alternatives to lethal injection. There must be cheaper, faster and more elegant solutions.





Lethal injection generally is.  Firing squad is more honorable for a soldier.  Electric Chair is a horrible and cruel apparatus created by Thomas Edison because of a rivalry between Westinghouse over AC and DC
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: OneMoreRep on July 11, 2015, 05:46:54 AM
Separate but equal.  What really was the issue or problem? 

I think a little discrimination should be Constitutional.  Why is it only considered discriminatory one way, when Separate But Equal applied both ways?   :D

Adonis,

Money, in many respects, can buy you a form of segregation.

For instance, many states have gated communities, whereby you have to buy into them (purchase home, pay HOA fees etc.) in order to have access to them. Most of these communities have a centralized country club with a full range of activities for everyone, from kids to adults. They also have their own form of security and some of them even have schools integrated into the community.

In NYC, there are communities within the city, that while not gated, are pretty much off-limits to individuals who do not reside within (think Park Avenue, Pomander Walk etc.)

For those familiar with NYC, another example is the gated seagate area by Coney Island - they have their own police force - For more information, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Gate,_Brooklyn#Education (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Gate,_Brooklyn#Education).

Personally, I don't mind living within a diversified community. What I don't like are dirty streets, crime, loud music into the late hours of the night or overly populated areas.

"1"
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Rami on July 11, 2015, 06:36:28 AM
I don't know if America (or any other nation) can ever become completely fair. Imagine the uneven distribution of wealth in America in white and black societies at the time everyone were granted equal rights.

It's easy to say that now everyone has equal opportunity, but in reality white families and business had much more wealth on which to build. Wealth created under slavery and under very unequal opportunities.

Maybe this can never be settled, or how?
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: forillagorilla on July 11, 2015, 06:49:41 AM
I don't know if America (or any other nation) can ever become completely fair. Imagine the uneven distribution of wealth in America in white and black societies at the time everyone were granted equal rights.

It's easy to say that now everyone has equal opportunity, but in reality white families and business had much more wealth on which to build. Wealth created under slavery and under very unequal opportunities.

Maybe this can never be settled, or how?

The past is the past... I absolutely believe that "Separate but Equal" was complete unconstitutional and I am very much against. However - my ancestors did have slaves - quite a lot in fact. I do not work in the business (which still does fun) and I have never personally made a dollar from sugarcane nor did my father or grandfather. Every American has EXACTLY the same opportunity as me and no one gave me any advantage. I built every dollar of my wealth
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: AD2100 on July 11, 2015, 09:58:19 AM
Separate but equal.  What really was the issue or problem? 

I think a little discrimination should be Constitutional.  Why is it only considered discriminatory one way, when Separate But Equal applied both ways?   :D
I am in favor of putting cowardly, hook-nosed suspected white supremacists that talk shit on the internet in ovens and "chemical showers". :D
Why is it considered a bad thing when we rid the planet of certain Khazars who are racist and are in favor of "traditional southern ways and customs"?
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: SF1900 on July 11, 2015, 10:09:47 AM
TA trolling and everyone falling for it, hook, line and sinker!
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: calfzilla on July 11, 2015, 10:12:52 AM
TA trolling and everyone falling for it, hook, line and sinker!

He made a thread the other day about blacks looking like pitbulls. If I were to compare kneeguls to an animal it would be the crow. I don't think they look like pitbulls. Maybe falcon can speak on this being the non confrontational white champion.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: AD2100 on July 11, 2015, 10:13:04 AM
TA trolling and everyone falling for it, hook, line and sinker!
When the troller gets trolled, the troller has jumped the shark. ;)
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: local hero on July 11, 2015, 11:11:42 AM
Missed my point.

Just as "Jewish" was initially/solely a religion; race, too, was historically simplified - there were three: Mongoloid (Asian and its offshoots), Negroid (darkies of various darkness), and Caucasoid (The Man and his palefaced brethren).

Please follow the conversation.


Simplify it again and there's one race... How far you want to go back, unique characteristics amongst the groups I meantioned
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: muscleman-2013 on July 11, 2015, 12:10:45 PM
I don't know if America (or any other nation) can ever become completely fair. Imagine the uneven distribution of wealth in America in white and black societies at the time everyone were granted equal rights.

It's easy to say that now everyone has equal opportunity, but in reality white families and business had much more wealth on which to build. Wealth created under slavery and under very unequal opportunities.

Maybe this can never be settled, or how?

All nonsense...

majority of whites never owned slaves so your logic falls apart right there.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The Ugly on July 11, 2015, 12:27:16 PM

Simplify it again and there's one race... How far you want to go back, unique characteristics amongst the groups I meantioned

Agreed. One became three, became ...
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Irongrip400 on July 11, 2015, 12:32:59 PM
White people segregate themselves as long as they have enough money. 

This is true. I have never seen a black person, and only two Filipino families in my neighborhood. I have been to functions where there were people of color, but never really thought about it until this thread, as the folks are generally upstanding people.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The Ugly on July 11, 2015, 12:36:09 PM

Lethal injection generally is.  Firing squad is more honorable for a soldier.  Electric Chair is a horrible and cruel apparatus created by Thomas Edison because of a rivalry between Westinghouse over AC and DC

Someone watches History Channel.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The Ugly on July 11, 2015, 12:41:24 PM
Adonis,

Money, in many respects, can buy you a form of segregation.

For instance, many states have gated communities, whereby you have to buy into them (purchase home, pay HOA fees etc.) in order to have access to them. Most of these communities have a centralized country club with a full range of activities for everyone, from kids to adults. They also have their own form of security and some of them even have schools integrated into the community.

In NYC, there are communities within the city, that while not gated, are pretty much off-limits to individuals who do not reside within (think Park Avenue, Pomander Walk etc.)

For those familiar with NYC, another example is the gated seagate area by Coney Island - they have their own police force - For more information, see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Gate,_Brooklyn#Education (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Gate,_Brooklyn#Education).

Personally, I don't mind living within a diversified community. What I don't like are dirty streets, crime, loud music into the late hours of the night or overly populated areas.

"1"

Isn't that crime and loud music often at the hands of "diversity"?

Just asking.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 12, 2015, 09:37:18 AM
Isn't that crime and loud music often at the hands of "diversity"?

Just asking.

I agree...that acid rock is really annoying
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: robcguns on July 12, 2015, 04:30:51 PM
Why though?  Could they not build their own establishments?
Cause even now all they can build is a mud hut.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The Ugly on July 12, 2015, 06:13:16 PM
I agree...that acid rock is really annoying

Fucken hippies.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 12, 2015, 07:21:54 PM
Cause even now all they can build is a mud hut.
just to show you want an idiot you are, blacks were starting businesses and being elected to office during reconstruction but whites became alarmed at the success blacks were having and that's why they started the Jim crow laws.....so again..blame white fear and white domination
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: pellius on July 12, 2015, 08:45:12 PM
I agree...that acid rock is really annoying

I have never in my life heard acid rock blasting out of a car with the windows down to purposely annoy and piss off everyone in the vicinity. It's always been rap music.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The Ugly on July 12, 2015, 11:19:57 PM
just to show you want an idiot you are, blacks were starting businesses and being elected to office during reconstruction but whites became alarmed at the success blacks were having and that's why they started the Jim crow laws.....so again..blame white fear and white domination

All horrible and shameful (if not speculative), but what's the reason NOW? No Jim Crow, no segregation, anti-discrimination laws, "diversity" quotas, and potential "racism" shaming that trumps them all.

Whites still alarmed and afraid of black success? They're f'n BEGGING for it.

Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Pneumothorax on July 13, 2015, 02:22:41 AM
He's not white. His skin color is white but he's not white.

Exactly just because someone looks "white" doesn't mean they are white.  Take irish for example, they appear to be pasty and pale, but they are not white, same with Italians and Russians.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Parker on July 13, 2015, 03:57:11 AM
Exactly just because someone looks "white" doesn't mean they are white.  Take irish for example, they appear to be pasty and pale, but they are not white, same with Italians and Russians.
huh?
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: mr.turbo on July 13, 2015, 05:59:47 AM
huh?

the traditional anglo saxon view.  yes indeed apparently the swedes aren't white either.  :D
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: mr.turbo on July 13, 2015, 06:03:09 AM
regarding segregation I would defer to thurmond and his family on the matter  :D

(http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b581/newbienewhart/Politics/EllieThurmondEbony3-04pg1R_zps1f74786e.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 14, 2015, 09:22:03 AM
All horrible and shameful (if not speculative), but what's the reason NOW? No Jim Crow, no segregation, anti-discrimination laws, "diversity" quotas, and potential "racism" shaming that trumps them all.

Whites still alarmed and afraid of black success? They're f'n BEGGING for it.


How can someone be afraid of something that has yet to exist?
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 14, 2015, 09:56:52 AM
How can someone be afraid of something that has yet to exist?
it existed already,....whites shut it down due to insecurity and wanting to remain on top....amazing that you don't know that..but of course you guys are so ignorant of history its amazing
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on July 14, 2015, 10:13:11 AM
sadly the colored are gaining in numbers.  The browns will be a majority on their own soon.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 14, 2015, 01:34:35 PM
sadly the colored are gaining in numbers.  The browns will be a majority on their own soon.
how's it feel to be a dinosaur?
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The Ugly on July 14, 2015, 01:43:40 PM
How can someone be afraid of something that has yet to exist?

Rhetorical response.

But I already answered it.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Tennisballz on July 14, 2015, 10:10:45 PM
Watched a recent Internet video of 40 blacks jumping a solitary white man into bloody unconciousness. Must have have been another 50 black men and females looking on and encouraging it.

Imagine if the colors were reversed?? It would be on every channel, shown every 5 minutes.

 Futhermore white people would have stepped in and stopped the beating quickly, especially the white women would have been outraged and horrified. The black woman instead looked on with satisfaction. Reverse racism and hate is so easily accepted today.
There isn't such a thing as reverse racism.  There is only racism.  It applies equally to everyone accross the board.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 14, 2015, 10:43:29 PM
it existed already,....whites shut it down due to insecurity and wanting to remain on top....amazing that you don't know that..but of course you guys are so ignorant of history its amazing
What existed?  Evidence please.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 15, 2015, 07:42:07 AM
What existed?  Evidence please.

its in the history books...READ
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 15, 2015, 06:32:10 PM
its in the history books...READ
What is? 
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: pellius on July 16, 2015, 12:37:57 AM
What is? 

You know. The stuff. The stuff about what I was saying.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: James28 on July 16, 2015, 11:24:38 AM
just to show you want an idiot you are, blacks were starting businesses and being elected to office during reconstruction but whites became alarmed at the success blacks were having and that's why they started the Jim crow laws.....so again..blame white fear and white domination

Then why is Africa a dump? No whites there to impose 'Jim Crow' laws and they're still on banana ships following us.

The issue with segregation is that they want to be where we are. If the whites took Australia, NZ, Canada and Northern Europe and give the mud people the rest, you won't be happy and still follow us.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: robcguns on July 16, 2015, 12:43:26 PM
just to show you want an idiot you are, blacks were starting businesses and being elected to office during reconstruction but whites became alarmed at the success blacks were having and that's why they started the Jim crow laws.....so again..blame white fear and white domination

Then why all the mudhuts in africa?and why do you people run from africa?why is it rappers and pro athletes that are black all talk about the motherland?if you love it so much go the fuck home and build something.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 16, 2015, 01:54:52 PM
Then why is Africa a dump? No whites there to impose 'Jim Crow' laws and they're still on banana ships following us.

The issue with segregation is that they want to be where we are. If the whites took Australia, NZ, Canada and Northern Europe and give the mud people the rest, you won't be happy and still follow us.


You're an idiot.  There plenty of modern cities in Africa along with villages that keep tradition.  Here's Angola

(http://www.businessdestinations.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Luanda-Angola.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The Ugly on July 16, 2015, 02:02:12 PM

You're an idiot.  There plenty of modern cities in Africa along with villages that keep tradition.  Here's Angola

(http://www.businessdestinations.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Luanda-Angola.jpg)

You're burying yourself using South Africa as an example of progress.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on July 16, 2015, 02:18:14 PM
You're burying yourself using South Africa as an example of progress.


Did you not read...ANGOLA!!  Never a British colony ::)  Most of these countries governments are less than 50 years old.  Take time to work shit out
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 16, 2015, 03:40:44 PM
Then why is Africa a dump? No whites there to impose 'Jim Crow' laws and they're still on banana ships following us.

The issue with segregation is that they want to be where we are. If the whites took Australia, NZ, Canada and Northern Europe and give the mud people the rest, you won't be happy and still follow us.

your ignorance and stupidity are amazing.....there are poor people in Africa and rich people as well....The middle class in Africa is bigger than in the U.S.....your mind is so limited you wouldn't know that
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 16, 2015, 03:41:55 PM
Then why all the mudhuts in africa?and why do you people run from africa?why is it rappers and pro athletes that are black all talk about the motherland?if you love it so much go the fuck home and build something.

why do all the Irish run from Ireland?..Why do the Mexicans run from Mexico?..everybody loves America idiot
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 16, 2015, 03:43:22 PM
You're burying yourself using South Africa as an example of progress.

Angola isn't in South Africa....who's the idiot now..you self-owned yourself 8)
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The Ugly on July 16, 2015, 03:53:10 PM

Did you not read...ANGOLA!!  Never a British colony ::)  Most of these countries governments are less than 50 years old.  Take time to work shit out

Missed "Angola," buried myself.

Well played.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The Ugly on July 16, 2015, 03:55:38 PM
Angola isn't in South Africa....who's the idiot now..you self-owned yourself 8)

I did. As opposed to self-owning someone else, of course.

Not repeatedly redundant at all.

Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 16, 2015, 04:09:47 PM
I did. As opposed to self-owning someone else, of course.

Not repeatedly redundant at all.



At least you acknowledged it...classy act
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The Ugly on July 16, 2015, 04:11:17 PM
At least you acknowledged it...classy act

I was wrong, brother.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 16, 2015, 05:19:58 PM
I was wrong, brother.
Not really considering the per capita income in Angola is around 3900 dollars a year.  Place is still a third world shit hole where more than half the population exists on less than a dollar a day.

And then theres this:

http://www.businessinsider.com/luanda-angola-expensive-city-2011-10#in-luanda-a-two-bedroom-apartment-in-a-luxury-building-costs-7000-per-month-in-new-york-city-it-would-cost-4300-1

In Luanda, a two-bedroom apartment in a luxury building costs $7,000 per month. In New York City it would cost $4,300.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/luanda-angola-expensive-city-2011-10?op=1#ixzz3g6TTN1YK


(http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/4e89f01aeab8eabb49000040-1200/in-luanda-a-two-bedroom-apartment-in-a-luxury-building-costs-7000-per-month-in-new-york-city-it-would-cost-4300.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: obsidian on July 16, 2015, 08:29:05 PM

You're an idiot.  There plenty of modern cities in Africa along with villages that keep tradition.  Here's Angola

(http://www.businessdestinations.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Luanda-Angola.jpg)
You're the moron.

Whites were responsible for providing the knowledge to construct those structures.

Yes, blacks can be taught construction, but the knowledge still came from a white man. If whites never went to Africa blacks would still be living in huts. This is a fact and you know it.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: James28 on July 17, 2015, 01:49:26 AM

You're an idiot.  There plenty of modern cities in Africa along with villages that keep tradition.  Here's Angola

(http://www.businessdestinations.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Luanda-Angola.jpg)

Haha. Sooo glad you picked Angola. As I've been there ;)

Went up the Namibian skeleton coast fishing and flew to Luanda for two nights as the IT company I worked for at the time (work = having a job. Try and understand the concept) were doing some consultancy work for a major oil and gas company working off shore.

Shit hole is not the word. Absolutely disgusting and I've been to Hillbrow in Johannesburg and Khayelitsha just outside Cape Town. 99% of Angolans would amputate both legs to go live as a dirt poor person in a white country.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Hurricane Beef ! on July 17, 2015, 01:52:59 AM

The facilities of colored individuals were highly inferior to white facilities.  In addition, I enjoy dining in rather than going around back for food that was either taken from the trash or spit in.

Uppity.

TB
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 17, 2015, 06:46:31 AM
You're the moron.

Whites were responsible for providing the knowledge to construct those structures.

Yes, blacks can be taught construction, but the knowledge still came from a white man. If whites never went to Africa blacks would still be living in huts. This is a fact and you know it.


oh sure...and oh yes, whites built the pyramids too ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The Ugly on July 17, 2015, 12:15:19 PM

oh sure...and oh yes, whites built the pyramids too ::) ::) ::)

No, greens.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: James28 on July 17, 2015, 12:26:16 PM

Did you not read...ANGOLA!!  Never a British colony ::)  Most of these countries governments are less than 50 years old.  Take time to work shit out

Yet Africa is still a toilet full of black vermin trying to get to white countries. Haha, even animals can sort themselves out and better than Africans.

In London the black areas look and smell just like Africa. The very thing they got away from, they keep bringing with them.

There's literally ZERO white or Asian people that wants to live in Africa on between Africans. Whilst 95% of blacks or Africans would love to live between whites.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 17, 2015, 03:09:23 PM
Yet Africa is still a toilet full of black vermin trying to get to white countries. Haha, even animals can sort themselves out and better than Africans.

In London the black areas look and smell just like Africa. The very thing they got away from, they keep bringing with them.

There's literally ZERO white or Asian people that wants to live in Africa on between Africans. Whilst 95% of blacks or Africans would love to live between whites.

Dude..you're mentally ill......up the dosage
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: local hero on July 17, 2015, 03:21:52 PM
Nah he's right, more or less African townships....

Ask your self a hard question, where would you rather live and associate with?, normal working class whites on an all white council estate or little somalia/nigeria/jamaica?
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: James28 on July 17, 2015, 07:04:25 PM
Nah he's right, more or less African townships....

Ask your self a hard question, where would you rather live and associate with?, normal working class whites on an all white council estate or little somalia/nigeria/jamaica?

He'd run for the nearest white neighbourhood. Even blacks don't want to live between blacks
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 17, 2015, 08:17:26 PM
He'd run for the nearest white neighbourhood. Even blacks don't want to live between blacks

you are really obsessed with this issue my friend.....perhaps some psychiatric services would help????????????
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: pellius on July 17, 2015, 08:24:32 PM
you are really obsessed with this issue my friend.....perhaps some psychiatric services would help????????????

He's posted three times in this thread. You're at around 15.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 17, 2015, 08:26:23 PM
He's posted three times in this thread. You're at around 15.

yes but i'm not posting hate.....just facts and rebuttal 8) 8)
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: iwantmass on July 17, 2015, 08:31:19 PM
He hasn't posted a single hateful thing. He has posted reality and honest thoughts. To say something bad about an inherently perverted race isn't hateful
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 17, 2015, 08:32:54 PM
He hasn't posted a single hateful thing. He has posted reality and honest thoughts. To say something bad about an inherently perverted race isn't hateful



oooohhh woooowwwww...look at Mr. 23 posts...you are such a tough guy..such wonderful logic from a gimmick
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: iwantmass on July 17, 2015, 08:34:15 PM
I'm sorry that you live in a fantasy land where the majority of blacks are a well to do contributing part of society. Call me a gimmick all you want, but if you were honest, your embarrassment of your own race wouldn't prevent you from acknowledging the truth
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 17, 2015, 08:43:52 PM
I'm sorry that you live in a fantasy land where the majority of blacks are a well to do contributing part of society. Call me a gimmick all you want, but if you were honest, your embarrassment of your own race wouldn't prevent you from acknowledging the truth

why should I be embarrassed???...there are bad people in every race....unfortunately whites don't want to acknowledge that they are the ones living in a fantasy world where whites do no wrong....believe me I have no desire to be a part of a race that got everything they have through genocide and subjugation 8)

you can start crying now :'(
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: pellius on July 17, 2015, 09:15:14 PM
yes but i'm not posting hate.....just facts and rebuttal 8) 8)

The content is not that relevant for an obsession. You can be obsessed with posting facts and rebuttals or obsessed with posting hate. It's more about the time and passion invested in the topic or issue.

In his three posts he, though in much coarser language, claimed that Africa is probably the worse continent to live in in the world. I don't think many would argue with him. Especially those that live there.

He related his own personal experience. You may not like it but it's hard to make the case that what he experience, how it made him feel, and the perspective it left him with; is wrong. You cannot know what's in his head and his comments were a subjective evaluation.

He may have been less than precise in saying that the first chance a Black gets is he will move into a White neighborhood. I think he meant that the first chance a Black gets, or anybody for that matter, will be to move into a BETTER neighborhood. It just happens to be that a predominately Black neighborhood is a predominately bad neighborhood. And it's not that White neighborhoods are necessarily good, there are a lot of horrible White neighborhoods, but that good neighborhoods are predominately White (which includes Asians).
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: polychronopolous on July 17, 2015, 09:19:30 PM
Hebrews love to follow white folks around.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: AlphaGyno on July 17, 2015, 09:23:08 PM
The reason why predominantly black public schools don't do well is because they're stuck in a group-think quagmire.
Haven't any of you watched Boyz N the Hood?  ::)


also, LOL at the notion of "white guilt". oh brother  ::)
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: iwantmass on July 17, 2015, 09:27:29 PM
Sure, every race has their bad eggs. The black race just so happens to have a way higher percentile of them.  And don't fool yourself, while whites were busy enslaving and doing whatever else barbaric act you want to cite, blacks were doing equally horrendous things, they were just the inferior race and thus ended up on the losing end of things
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: SuperTed on July 18, 2015, 07:48:35 AM
What existed?  Evidence please.

I assume he's referring to the Tulsa riot which lead to the destruction of the wealthiest black community in the US at the time. TBF, from what I know of it, it was a shameful chapter of white American history.

oh sure...and oh yes, whites built the pyramids too ::) ::) ::)

If we're being honest here, skyscrapers and buildings of that nature are Western (white) architecture. Almost all have been designed by European men. Even in places like Hong Kong and Tokyo, the most impressive skyscrapers would have been engineered by Western minds.

believe me I have no desire to be a part of a race that got everything they have through genocide and subjugation 8)

C'mon now. You're the one who's always leching after white women in the Random Pics thread. Now you claim to have no desire to be part of the white community? ::)
All great civilizations are built partly through genocide and exploitation. You previously mentioned the Ancient Egyptians - Wasn't their civilization built entirely through Hebrew slave labor? It's not like white Europeans are anything unique when it comes to this matter.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 18, 2015, 09:51:10 AM
I assume he's referring to the Tulsa riot which lead to the destruction of the wealthiest black community in the US at the time. TBF, from what I know of it, it was a shameful chapter of white American history.

If we're being honest here, skyscrapers and buildings of that nature are Western (white) architecture. Almost all have been designed by European men. Even in places like Hong Kong and Tokyo, the most impressive skyscrapers would have been engineered by Western minds.

C'mon now. You're the one who's always leching after white women in the Random Pics thread. Now you claim to have no desire to be part of the white community? ::)
All great civilizations are built partly through genocide and exploitation. You previously mentioned the Ancient Egyptians - Wasn't their civilization built entirely through Hebrew slave labor? It's not like white Europeans are anything unique when it comes to this matter.

Wow..your complete idiocy is mind-blowing....I guess in your mind when a guy wouldn't mind fucking a woman of another race he absolutely MUST desire to be a part of that race...if that's the case you got a lot of white guys on here who want to be Asian....

as for the white architecture that you brag about, of course it HAD TO BE BUILT by whites because they excluded everyone else and wouldn't let anyone else participate.....don't be an idiot...your statement about whites building skyscrapers and civilization might be historically accurate but it was due to historical genocide, slavery, and brutal cruelty....not due to some genius on your part.....

read the history books, NOT-SO-SUPER TED

Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: SuperTed on July 18, 2015, 11:29:23 AM
Wow..your complete idiocy is mind-blowing....I guess in your mind when a guy wouldn't mind fucking a woman of another race he absolutely MUST desire to be a part of that race...if that's the case you got a lot of white guys on here who want to be Asian....

If the white guy was obsessed with Asian women while holding resentment towards Asians in general than I would think he was confused. I would also find it rather odd if he had little interest in women of his own race despite claiming to be proud of his people. In short, I'd consider him a moron. :D

as for the white architecture that you brag about, of course it HAD TO BE BUILT by whites because they excluded everyone else and wouldn't let anyone else participate.....don't be an idiot...your statement about whites building skyscrapers and civilization might be historically accurate but it was due to historical genocide, slavery, and brutal cruelty....not due to some genius on your part.....

I never said only whites can build skyscrapers. I said the architecture is white Western in design and engineering. Just in the same way, a mosque in Arab-Islamic architecture and a Pagoda is East Asian architecture.

read the history books, NOT-SO-SUPER TED

I know all about slavery, Jim Crow laws, the KKK....etc. I studied American History & Politics in my UK college. We also get reminded of all this stuff from the media every time a riot or police shooting takes place. However, what about history prior to slavery? I acknowledge that North Africa and East Africa have a rich ancient history but the slaves didn't come from those areas. Where is this great civilization in sub-Saharan Africa before the Europeans arrived?
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 18, 2015, 11:52:29 AM
If the white guy was obsessed with Asian women while holding resentment towards Asians in general than I would think he was confused. I would also find it rather odd if he had little interest in women of his own race despite claiming to be proud of his people. In short, I'd consider him a moron. :D

I never said only whites can build skyscrapers. I said the architecture is white Western in design and engineering. Just in the same way, a mosque in Arab-Islamic architecture and a Pagoda is East Asian architecture.

I know all about slavery, Jim Crow laws, the KKK....etc. I studied American History & Politics in my UK college. We also get reminded of all this stuff from the media every time a riot or police shooting takes place. However, what about history prior to slavery? I acknowledge that North Africa and East Africa have a rich ancient history but the slaves didn't come from those areas. Where is this great civilization in sub-Saharan Africa before the Europeans arrived?

Me having no interest in women of my own race is in your mind not-so-super ted.....if you really were paying attention you would have seen that I also comment on women of black and other races.....so I think you are the confused one
As for the other stuff, at least you acknowledge that there was slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow Laws, etc..I'll take that as a moral victory..continuing this argument is pointless, but if this is so interesting for you why don't you go to a white supremacist page and continue this discourse since you seem so fascinated by supposed white superiority
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: James28 on July 18, 2015, 12:45:27 PM
you are really obsessed with this issue my friend.....perhaps some psychiatric services would help????????????

Andre, you're one of the better blacks around here. I'll have you as my neighbour any day (provided you have a job and don't act like a guy). I guess that says a lot about 'racist' me huh?

But listen to me spell it out to you. Your people are sick. They're literally, literally unwelcome anywhere in the world. There is no country that welcome you with open arms. There is no benefit of having blacks move to any other country. They don't improve anything. The best you can hope for is for the regression of areas not to be too rapid. As regression is inevitable one they get a foothold. Don't feel alone, the same happens when certain Asians and 99% of Muslims move to an area.

The better blacks like yourself (and unlike the chronically unemployed Vince and Wiggs), move to White areas once you reach middle class. Blacks don't get rich and stay in Black areas. Even Robert Mugabe, the legendary white hater, sends his kids to white schools in white countries. You'll do the same and most blacks will too. Yet there's no white parent on Earth that would even entertain the thought of sending their kids to black school unless they have no other choice. That's because nothing good ever comes of living and schooling between blacks. Your results speak for itself.

And I think that's the main reason why your better blacks hate so much. They know the only way up in the world is through the White ranks.

You need my world, I don't need yours. And that's always been our power over you.

Hope this makes things a bit more clear.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 18, 2015, 02:09:08 PM
The Funny truth about Tulsa and "Black Wall Street"


Segregation would have been better for blacks as a whole.  :D


Within five years after the massacre, surviving residents who chose to remain in Tulsa rebuilt much of the district.

 It resumed being a vital black community until segregation was overturned by the Federal Government during the 1950s and 1960s. Desegregation encouraged blacks to live and shop elsewhere in the city, causing Greenwood to lose much of its original vitality. Since then, city leaders have attempted to encourage other economic development activity nearby.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: AD2100 on July 23, 2015, 08:49:33 AM
I'm sorry that you live in a fantasy land where the majority of blacks are a well to do contributing part of society. Call me a gimmick all you want, but if you were honest, your embarrassment of your own race wouldn't prevent you from acknowledging the truth
::)
Why did you have to bust out your gimmick account to express your racism?
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: AD2100 on July 23, 2015, 08:53:07 AM
The content is not that relevant for an obsession. You can be obsessed with posting facts and rebuttals or obsessed with posting hate. It's more about the time and passion invested in the topic or issue.

In his three posts he, though in much coarser language, claimed that Africa is probably the worse continent to live in in the world. I don't think many would argue with him. Especially those that live there.

He related his own personal experience. You may not like it but it's hard to make the case that what he experience, how it made him feel, and the perspective it left him with; is wrong. You cannot know what's in his head and his comments were a subjective evaluation.

He may have been less than precise in saying that the first chance a Black gets is he will move into a White neighborhood. I think he meant that the first chance a Black gets, or anybody for that matter, will be to move into a BETTER neighborhood. It just happens to be that a predominately Black neighborhood is a predominately bad neighborhood. And it's not that White neighborhoods are necessarily good, there are a lot of horrible White neighborhoods, but that good neighborhoods are predominately White (which includes Asians).
LOL

I often wonder why white supremacists bother writing vomit like this on the internet. I guess it is in some way cathartic...like how talking to a therapist helps alleviate the symptoms of their psychosis for awhile.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: AD2100 on July 23, 2015, 09:00:35 AM
The Funny truth about Tulsa and "Black Wall Street"



Poor Leo Frank. :D
(http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/frank/hanging2.jpg)

Those were the days, eh?
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z205/JekyllnHyde_photos/July%2017th%202011/NoJewsFerrisStateUniversity2527sMuseum.jpg)

Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 23, 2015, 09:10:58 AM
LOL

I often wonder why white supremacists bother writing vomit like this on the internet. I guess it is in some way cathartic...like how talking to a therapist helps alleviate the symptoms of their psychosis for awhile.

Agreed X2
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: mr.turbo on July 23, 2015, 10:50:12 AM
LOL

I often wonder why white supremacists bother writing vomit like this on the internet. I guess it is in some way cathartic...like how talking to a therapist helps alleviate the symptoms of their psychosis for awhile.

Apparently, these thoughts aren't compatible with civilized real world interaction. I've been encouraging some of the fellas to engage directly with the subject of their passions but they seem reluctant for some reason. not sure why   ???

Indeed the most productive approach would be to head over to the nearest black neighborhood to share these insights with the locals.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Kwon_2 on July 23, 2015, 11:12:09 AM
Christoph Waltz can play almost any role , any character, and the movie becomes interesting.


(http://thesqeez.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/timallen78mug1-e1436300814225.jpg)

(http://thesqeez.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/trejo-peaceful.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: iwantmass on July 23, 2015, 12:13:41 PM
Mr turbo, you propose soemthing that you know to be unrealistic. While whites and other races are capable of participating in a constructive dialogue/debate, having the same expectation of anyone in a majority black neighborhood is overly optimistic.  At the very least, said black would start repeating themselves in a loud aggressive fashion.  At worst, they would assault the person attempting the debate.  But, I think you know this, and just want to see a white person ge5 assaulted, possibly even murdered
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 23, 2015, 12:21:27 PM
Mr turbo, you propose soemthing that you know to be unrealistic. While whites and other races are capable of participating in a constructive dialogue/debate, having the same expectation of anyone in a majority black neighborhood is overly optimistic.  At the very least, said black would start repeating themselves in a loud aggressive fashion.  At worst, they would assault the person attempting the debate.  But, I think you know this, and just want to see a white person ge5 assaulted, possibly even murdered


look at Mr. 26 posts who thinks he knows everything...how cute
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: mr.turbo on July 23, 2015, 11:28:30 PM
Mr turbo, you propose soemthing that you know to be unrealistic. While whites and other races are capable of participating in a constructive dialogue/debate, having the same expectation of anyone in a majority black neighborhood is overly optimistic.  At the very least, said black would start repeating themselves in a loud aggressive fashion.  At worst, they would assault the person attempting the debate.  But, I think you know this, and just want to see a white person ge5 assaulted, possibly even murdered

lol :D
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: pellius on July 24, 2015, 12:18:09 AM
LOL

I often wonder why white supremacists bother writing vomit like this on the internet. I guess it is in some way cathartic...like how talking to a therapist helps alleviate the symptoms of their psychosis for awhile.

But none of the arguments address, debated or refuted.

That's why your kind always loses.

BTW, I'm not White.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: pellius on July 24, 2015, 12:24:37 AM
Mr turbo, you propose soemthing that you know to be unrealistic. While whites and other races are capable of participating in a constructive dialogue/debate, having the same expectation of anyone in a majority black neighborhood is overly optimistic.  At the very least, said black would start repeating themselves in a loud aggressive fashion.  At worst, they would assault the person attempting the debate.  But, I think you know this, and just want to see a white person ge5 assaulted, possibly even murdered

"Mr. Turbo" is a complete moron. I've proved it time and again.

"Give me one shred of evidence that America has ever done anything good in the world."

--Mr. Turbo

Seems he forgot, or more likely never knew, 750,000 Americans died fighting to abolish slavery. It's ignorant ingrates like him that should be kicked out of the country. A truly disgraceful human being.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: Teutonic Knight on July 24, 2015, 12:26:03 AM
Everything will be fine , KEPLER 452b is another Earth so who cares about this planet anymore ............ :D

& Kepler is "only" 1400 light years away ..................
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: iwantmass on July 24, 2015, 01:33:33 AM
We've established that andreisdaman can recognize double digit numerals and that Mr turbo knows where the emoticons are on his keyboard. Yet, we still await any intelligent rebuttal in spite of andreisdaman stating earlier that he operates on facts. Neither one of them could honestly argue with my previous argument. 

I'll wait for andreisdaman to talk about how he owned, burned, or whatever else he comes up with. I don't really expect him to have a legitimate defense of his race
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 24, 2015, 06:20:23 AM
We've established that andreisdaman can recognize double digit numerals and that Mr turbo knows where the emoticons are on his keyboard. Yet, we still await any intelligent rebuttal in spite of andreisdaman stating earlier that he operates on facts. Neither one of them could honestly argue with my previous argument. 

I'll wait for andreisdaman to talk about how he owned, burned, or whatever else he comes up with. I don't really expect him to have a legitimate defense of his race

why get involved?....your idiocy speaks for itself...you are self-owning...you don't need my help to do that
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: iwantmass on July 24, 2015, 09:36:20 AM
Well,  that was certainly predictable. But it is probably for the best. The less a person like you says, the less stupid you can be made to look
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 24, 2015, 11:55:07 AM
Well,  that was certainly predictable. But it is probably for the best. The less a person like you says, the less stupid you can be made to look


Did the mirror talk back to you after you said that?
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: MCWAY on July 24, 2015, 12:02:50 PM
The 1954 decision of Brown vs the Bd of education argued by Thurgood Marshall overturned the previous Plessy vs Ferguson law of Separate but Equal.

The constitution is pretty clear on no discrimination based on race, religion , etc.
The SCOTUS recently used the 14th amendment and gender discrimination to make same sex marriage the law of the land.

Politics and social interaction has a huge effect on how our society will function in addition to laws.

I've often wondered how historically black colleges could still operate now?
I suspect no white student ever challenged any of their policies?

What does bug me is in the world of sports where all white is considered evil and all black is a non issue.
In hockey or swimming, many claim it's social injustice if more blacks aren't competing.
BUT, when the 100m track final is all black, nobody says a word.

In my view, we should all operate under the same basic standards of conduct and respect the laws.

Whites were never barred from HBCUs. They were made because blacks couldn't go to white colleges. Besides, of the 4100+ colleges in America, HBCUs make up just over 100, mostly in the southeast region of the country.

Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: andreisdaman on July 24, 2015, 12:05:34 PM
Whites were never barred from HBCUs. They were made because blacks couldn't go to white colleges. Besides, of the 4100+ colleges in America, HBCUs make up just over 100, mostly in the southeast region of the country.



Good history lesson given here...its so unfortunate that so many whites on Getbig are so totally ignorant of history...which is why we still have racism today
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 24, 2015, 08:52:56 PM
I guess this statement proves that you started this thread to troll
???
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: MCWAY on July 24, 2015, 09:05:42 PM

Many would beg to differ, such as black teachers, doctors, dentists, and black women with doctorate degrees. Most of them come from HBCUs.

Besides, you're the one that want segregation. If anything, there should be more HBCUs nationwide. Less blubbering for you.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 24, 2015, 09:09:24 PM

Segregation was the best policy for blacks.  Ever heard of Black Wall street.  It crumbled when Separate but equal was stopped and thus went the black dream.


Anyways, only morons go to those colleges and all of the teachers are pretty much morons.  I know tons of people who went to those places and I know firsthand how stupid they are.

Google A&T Homecoming.  Every year they have that, there are many shootings.  The top rappers come from all over to it.  Its disgusting. Google it seriously.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: MCWAY on July 24, 2015, 09:37:32 PM
Segregation was the best policy for blacks.  Ever heard of Black Wall street.  It crumbled when Separate but equal was stopped and thus went the black dream.


Anyways, only morons go to those colleges and all of the teachers are pretty much morons.  I know tons of people who went to those places and I know firsthand how stupid they are.

Google A&T Homecoming.  Every year they have that, there are many shootings.  The top rappers come from all over to it.  Its disgusting. Google it seriously.

I don't need to google it. I know firsthand about HBCUs.

Segregation wasn't best for black people. Many thrived DESPITE it, not because of it. What has damaged black people is the welfare state and destruction of the nuclear family.

You torpedo your own argument. You want segregation yet you still want black colleges and universities (located mostly in the South) shut down. Where exactly are they supposed to get their college degrees?
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: calfzilla on July 24, 2015, 09:47:22 PM
Switching gears to slavery, do you find it odd that people in the US are hung up on black America slavery that ended 150 years ago yet drink coffee and eat chocolate daily that was picked by slaves; all without batting an eye.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: The True Adonis on July 24, 2015, 09:50:52 PM
Switching gears to slavery, do you find it odd that people in the US are hung up on black America slavery that ended 150 years ago yet drink coffee and eat chocolate daily that was picked by slaves; all without batting an eye.
Nobody cares because nobody knows history anyways.

They sold themselves willingly into slavery first of all.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: calfzilla on July 24, 2015, 09:58:13 PM
Nobody cares because nobody knows history anyways.

They sold themselves willingly into slavery first of all.

Very true, my african friend even confirmed that, not that he had to. The slaves were just prisoners of rival tribes.

Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: MCWAY on July 24, 2015, 10:30:30 PM
I don't care where they get their degrees from.  They need the Baboon Universities because the others are too difficult for them.  I get that part.  All of those schools are jokes and everyone around here, including the students know it.

As long as there is no segregation, may as well shut them down.  If there were segregation, let them run, (but it would be a travesty because they sure are not equal or on par with any real Universities)



Only about 20% of black students go to HBCUs. So your assessment doesn't compute.

The usual complaint about them isn't the schools themselves; it's the administration, particularly when it comes to financial aid. The money is always funny.

Plus, there's a big difference between segregation by FORCE and segregation by CHOICE. Going to an HBCU because you wish to do so is a far cry from going because you have to do so.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: MCWAY on July 24, 2015, 10:50:40 PM
Nobody cares because nobody knows history anyways.

They sold themselves willingly into slavery first of all.
 

That was common practice among the poor of all races in ancient days, not just Africans. And, dollars to donuts, they didn't do so thinking they'd be chattel slaves with zero rights and their families would be slaves in perpetuity just for being black.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: forillagorilla on July 24, 2015, 11:27:40 PM
I don't care where they get their degrees from.  They need the Baboon Universities because the others are too difficult for them.  I get that part.  All of those schools are jokes and everyone around here, including the students know it.

As long as there is no segregation, may as well shut them down.  If there were segregation, let them run, (but it would be a travesty because they sure are not equal or on par with any real Universities)



Where did you get all of YOUR degrees Adam? Being as advanced and smart as you are I bet you must out earn me by tons..  ;D
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: pellius on July 25, 2015, 12:22:08 AM
Nobody cares because nobody most don't know history anyway.

They were sold willingly into slavery by other Blacks first of all.

Fixed
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: syntaxmachine on July 25, 2015, 12:38:07 AM
Everything will be fine , KEPLER 452b is another Earth so who cares about this planet anymore ............ :D

& Kepler is "only" 1400 light years away ..................

Maybe we can send the Hebronics there to make their own way -- a fresh start. Will probably just receive World Star transmissions every few years though.
Title: Re: Anyone have any really good argument against Segregation of yore?
Post by: MCWAY on July 25, 2015, 12:32:46 PM
Whites were never barred from HBCUs. They were made because blacks couldn't go to white colleges. Besides, of the 4100+ colleges in America, HBCUs make up just over 100, mostly in the southeast region of the country.



Good history lesson given here...its so unfortunate that so many whites on Getbig are so totally ignorant of history...which is why we still have racism today


I forgot to mention that multiple HBCUs have majority white student bodies (i.e. Lincoln University and Bluefield State College, known as the "whitest HBCU in America").