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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3159344/There-s-no-jail-big-midget-Mexico-s-billion-dollar-drugs-lord-gloats-Twitter-escaping-prison-shower-block-tunnel.html
El Chapo does not tolerate disrespect. PIP Trump.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3159344/There-s-no-jail-big-midget-Mexico-s-billion-dollar-drugs-lord-gloats-Twitter-escaping-prison-shower-block-tunnel.html
El Chapo does not tolerate disrespect. PIP Trump.
Lol, that's not him. Just some bullshit gimmick. Can't believe you thought it was real.
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Lol, that's not him. Just some bullshit gimmick. Can't believe you thought it was real.
The account is thought to be ran by his son.
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Yes and you're still a broke half breed.
Settle down squirt. I'm not broke and I'm all Hebrew. I'm not half anything.
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You can't buy good publicity like this! All the other GOP candidates are trying to figure out how to get into a war of words with a notorious criminal.
Damn, this is gonna mean a +10-15% bounce for Trump. Trump probably paid to have him sprung as an election gimmick. If he did, it's brilliant.
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http://www.tmz.com/2015/07/13/donald-trump-el-chapo-fbi-son-tweet-death-threat/ (http://www.tmz.com/2015/07/13/donald-trump-el-chapo-fbi-son-tweet-death-threat/)
Scared shitless, on the phone non-stop all morning with the FBI
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http://www.tmz.com/2015/07/13/donald-trump-el-chapo-fbi-son-tweet-death-threat/ (http://www.tmz.com/2015/07/13/donald-trump-el-chapo-fbi-son-tweet-death-threat/)
Scared shitless, on the phone non-stop all morning with the FBI
Well, this only proves his point. An attempt on Trump only brings this issue to a head.
And it means that it has to be dealt with.
It seems to be that when the rich and powerful have issues, fun something gets done.
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isn't threatening Trump just proving his point? More to why this is all fake.
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Lol, that's not him. Just some bullshit gimmick. Can't believe you thought it was real.
The account has been confirmed to be the sons account... ;D
Trump better settle down..
Sinaloa cartel is a global organization..
They don't care and will make you eat your words..
Trump already notified the FBI ;D
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The account has been confirmed to be the sons account... ;D
Trump better settle down..
Sinaloa cartel is a global organization..
They don't care and will make you eat your words..
Trump already notified the FBI ;D
Sinaloa would be setting up their own death if this was true. If they start threatening and killing americans their reign will be over. They can kill all the Mexicans they want and we don't give a shit. It wouldn't take more than a team of Navy Seals to take out their entire leadership.
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Funny thought that the Mexicans are yelling "we're going to kill you for calling us killers"
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Sinaloa would be setting up their own death if this was true. If they start threatening and killing americans their reign will be over. They can kill all the Mexicans they want and we don't give a shit. It wouldn't take more than a team of Navy Seals to take out their entire leadership.
I still wouldn't take a chance pissing off the head of a drug cartel / chapo..
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I still wouldn't take a chance pissing off the head of a drug cartel / chapo..
Or anyone in a cartel?
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Shit..
They have global reach..
Obama ain't going to invade Mexico over Trumps racist stupid comments if something would happen to the Donald..
He has been making about Mexico and other Latin countries...
Trump better be careful..
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I still wouldn't take a chance pissing off the head of a drug cartel / chapo..
I'm sure he has the money for John Creasy style personal security.
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Shit..
They have global reach..
Obama ain't going to invade Mexico over Trumps racist stupid comments if something would happen to the Donald..
He has been making about Mexico and other Latin countries...
Trump better be careful..
Put your thinking cap on for a sec. Things don't start happening until the rich and powerful feel it.
People may not like Donald, but other rich people may think "What if this were me?"...
So, what happens? Rich people have the problem taken care of.
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I still wouldn't take a chance pissing off the head of a drug cartel / chapo..
I agree but neither of us are Donald Trump.
With his resources I'm sure he's going to be ok. As Parker said here:
Put your thinking cap on for a sec. Things don't start happening until the rich and powerful feel it.
People may not like Donald, but other rich people may think "What if this were me?"...
So, what happens? Rich people have the problem taken care of.
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Sinaloa would be setting up their own death if this was true. If they start threatening and killing americans their reign will be over. They can kill all the Mexicans they want and we don't give a shit. It wouldn't take more than a team of Navy Seals to take out their entire leadership.
There was also a time where the same thing could be said about AlQuida and ISIS but now look. Obama and his cohorts are doing little to stop it except for a few strikes here and there. They've grown larger despite the military involvement. I guaranty if the mexican cartels come here and start killing Obama will keep it at the local level. As for the Feds protecting Trump, you can bet Obama is saying fuck you to that. Hell, he'll probably let them cross the border just for that.
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;D
Well put coach..
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There was also a time where the same thing could be said about AlQuida and ISIS but now look. Obama and his cohorts are doing little to stop it except for a few strikes here and there. They've grown larger despite the military involvement. I guaranty if the mexican cartels come here and start killing Obama will keep it at the local level. As for the Feds protecting Trump, you can bet Obama is saying fuck you to that. Hell, he'll probably let them cross the border just for that.
If so, then who else is next? You, another rich person, a senator? A general. Once you allow criminals like that do something, they start to get brazen. Because they feel that they are untouchable. And what about the collateral damage and domino effect with other criminals. El Chapo didn't get to where he was by thinking small time.
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Sinaloa would be setting up their own death if this was true. If they start threatening and killing americans their reign will be over. They can kill all the Mexicans they want and we don't give a shit. It wouldn't take more than a team of Navy Seals to take out their entire leadership.
Why in the world would you use boots on the ground when a little human intel and a lot of JDAMs can solve the problem?
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Settle down squirt. I'm not broke and I'm all Hebrew. I'm not half anything.
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Shit..
They have global reach..
Obama ain't going to invade Mexico over Trumps racist stupid comments if something would happen to the Donald..
He has been making about Mexico and other Latin countries...
Trump better be careful..
Killing a presidential candidate is enough to start a war between countries.
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Shit..
They have global reach..
Obama ain't going to invade Mexico over Trumps racist stupid comments if something would happen to the Donald..
He has been making about Mexico and other Latin countries...
Trump better be careful..
This is so upside down.
what you don't want to do is get the American military interested in you.
There's a lot wrong with this country but the superiority of our military establishment is undisputed.
If Mexico cant control their criminals, We'll do it for them ..............in a week or less.
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Killing a presidential candidate is enough to start a war between countries.
Not if it's Trump. Obama will probably declare it a national holiday.
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Not if it's Trump. Obama will probably declare it a national holiday.
Would be funny if El Chapo had Trump on his knees and in his Mexican accent said "Trump, You're Fired" and slopped off his neck.
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You all have been watching way too much gangland. You are also all the same idiots who thought we would all be dead from ebola by now.
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You all have been watching way too much gangland. You are also all the same idiots who thought we would all be dead from ebola by now.
Fuck off. None of us believe that. We all know that the spaceship from Niburu is coming to get us soon.
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Fuck off. None of us believe that. We all know that the spaceship from Niburu is coming to get us soon.
perfect. Drink the cool aid and ill direct the spaceship to you when it arrives. Do me a favor and please leave behind the lee priest superman posing trunks you bought from eBay though!
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Not if it's Trump. Obama will probably declare it a national holiday.
It won't stop there. Obama may or may not like him, but a presidential candidate is still a presidential candidate. There is no pass.
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Can Vince get them in the ring somehow?
Maybe a Mexican Prison Cage Match?
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I love how Trump said, "You can't be intimidated."
Yet, he calls the FBI. Seems like he's more than intimidated. :D :D He's probably shitting his pants.
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Fuck off. None of us believe that. We all know that the spaceship from Niburu is coming to get us soon.
Lmao
;D
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FBI won't help trump ;D
The account he complained about is in Mexico...
Not in the reach of the FBI
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I love how Trump said, "You can't be intimidated."
Yet, he calls the FBI. Seems like he's more than intimidated. :D :D He's probably shitting his pants.
Seems like somebody can be not intimidated and call the FBI. They aren't mutually exclusive.
At this point, my vote is Trump's to lose.
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I'm sure that as a presidential candidate; Trump's campaign funds will provide the money for some top notch security guards. Possibly former S.E.A.L.S.
Welcome to the big leagues.
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You have to be fucking crazy to fuck with the head of the Mexican cartel.
There was once a guy named Pablo Escobar who was known for making Americans disappear in the United States.
The Medellin Cartel was nowhere near as big as the Mexican cartel.
I think it's a very stupid move on Trump's part.
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he isn't even president yet, and already wasting valuable and expensive FBI man hours on checks his loose lips wrote and his ball's couldn't cash in
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Fictional decapitation device used by Mexican Cartels
"Bolito"
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Oh man, The Donald... Hahahaha.
I bet he won't be sleeping much from now on.
That's what happens when you let your mouth write checks your ass won't be able to cash.
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Somebody puts a Bolito around Brad Pitt's neck
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I had Mexican workers working in my backyard for many years now, some are from Sinaloa, and they've told me many stories about how the cartels operate and... let me tell you, the heads of those cartels are not dumb people. They went out there and got experienced miners for them to build underground tunnels into the US. They went to the jails and got the worst most sadistic killers for their security, et cetera. When they drive around in Mexico, no one dares mess with them. They own Mexico.
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Seems like somebody can be not intimidated and call the FBI. They aren't mutually exclusive.
At this point, my vote is Trump's to lose.
Sure, Trump is not intimidated by a member of a drug cartel threatening him. ::) ::)
Of course hes going to be put on a manly face. Guarantee you he is crapping his pants. Watch his security increase.
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Trump said he would love to be President and would take Oprah as his VP. The guy is a fucking liberal. What he's doing right now is being a mole for the Democratic party. His soul mission is to take votes away from Republicans so that a One World Government liberal person takes Obama's place. Pretty obvious what he's doing.
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this is all publicity stunt for main event in next Wrestlemania, El Chapo vs Donald
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Trump claims he's using his own money to try to be President. How about he use his own money to protect himself and leave the FBI out of this...
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FBI won't help trump ;D
The account he complained about is in Mexico...
Not in the reach of the FBI
Yes because the CIA and FBI exclusively operate in the USA. We never stick our nose in other countries business
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isn't threatening Trump just proving his point?
YES
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Killing a presidential candidate is enough to start a war between countries.
Yes but this is Obama (POTUS) we are talking about. The ultimate traitor..
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I love how Trump said, "You can't be intimidated."
Yet, he calls the FBI. Seems like he's more than intimidated. :D :D He's probably shitting his pants.
Are you for real? He would be an idiot if he DIDN'T call the FBI.
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Are you for real? He would be an idiot if he DIDN'T call the FBI.
Like anything is going to happen. ::) ::) All theater.
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Like anything is going to happen. ::) ::) All theater.
I never said anything would happen. He would still be a fool not to inform/involve them..
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I never said anything would happen. He would still be a fool not to inform/involve them..
Perhaps. But we all know he's shitting his pants, since he was threatened by a drug cartel. I know he has to say hes not intimidated.
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isn't threatening Trump just proving his point?
"Continue fucking around and I will make you swallow all your whore words fucking white fa66ot."
Yeah, I think maybe so.
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Back in the day, we sorted out these types of matters quickly -
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/Pedacaris_Incident_cartoon.jpg).
I doubt anything happens, at least within the next few years. Trump, the businessman would be risky, but fair game to them. But now he's Trump, the candidate, and an attack on him would be seen as a symbolic attack on the US system and it's sovereignty. It would force a US response.
I'm sure he already got on the phone, and started bending high powered ears too.
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Well ain't that some shit!
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Goodrum there is a business opportunity that I think you're missing out on here. You could be pretty selling funeral packages to the Donald, I'm sure he could get you plenty of publicity as well if he turned the purchase into a stunt.
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This is so upside down.
what you don't want to do is get the American military interested in you.
There's a lot wrong with this country but the superiority of our military establishment is undisputed.
If Mexico cant control their criminals, We'll do it for them ..............in a week or less.
You could be right, but I wouldn't be overly confident. Look at how long it took to get Pablo Escobar. The Military struggled (consisting of members of the US Navy SEALs and Delta Force) , and it wasn't until they basically teamed up with murderous thugs ( Los Pepes ) who were Pablo's sworn enemies that they finally got Escobar.
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You have to be fucking crazy to fuck with the head of the Mexican cartel.
There was once a guy named Pablo Escobar who was known for making Americans disappear in the United States.
The Medellin Cartel was nowhere near as big as the Mexican cartel.
I think it's a very stupid move on Trump's part.
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I remember watching a debate on the death penalty and whether or not it's a deterrent. One argued that it wasn't. That it had no bearing on someone committing crime. The he was asked, "What if the threat came from a Mexican drug cartel?"
A quick and sure enforced death penalty is definitely a deterrent.
But I don't think the Cartel would want to kill Trump. They are not like the radical Muslims for whom killing is an end in itself. The Cartel's bottom line is money and making lots of it. Killing just comes with the territory because drugs are illegal and they can't take their disputes to court. Killing such a public figure and Presidential candidate is very bad business for the drug lords.
The whole wrath of the American might will come crushing down on them. And there's nothing in the world that can stop it.
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Oh man, The Donald... Hahahaha.
I bet he won't be sleeping much from now on.
That's what happens when you let your mouth write checks your ass won't be able to cash.
I think he can cash any checks he writes. He's been around a long' long time and has connections around the world. And nine billion dollars. Hell, he can bail out Greece all by himself.
This is good publicity for him and he may even be seen as a hero.
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El Chapo wouldn't do well here. His handle basically translates to: Manlet
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The whole wrath of the American might will come crushing down on them. And there's nothing in the world that can stop it.
North Vietnam managed it.
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North Vietnam managed it.
That was the first war where we fought with self imposed restraints. And we still won. We won every single battle fought. We killed over 10x the enemy than we lost. And just like in Iraq, we left. And over twice as many people were murdered by the Communist in less than two years than in our entire 10 year involvement in Vietnam. A fact that is never spoken of by the Left. The compassionate Left. My sister-in-law still has the bullet scars on her left arm and right leg as her and her family tried crossing the Mekong river to get to Thailand. She got to see her little brother's head blown apart right in front of her.
That's what we were trying to prevent. Communist expansion and Communist genocide.
You could be right, but I wouldn't be overly confident. Look at how long it took to get Pablo Escobar. The Military struggled (consisting of members of the US Navy SEALs and Delta Force) , and it wasn't until they basically teamed up with murderous thugs ( Los Pepes ) who were Pablo's sworn enemies that they finally got Escobar.
When America wants you they will get you. It may take months, years or even decades, like the Unibomber and Whitey Bulger, but they will get you.
They will always get you. The only escape is to die.
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WEIGHT 165lbs!!
what a beast!!!
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so some US rhetoric
its so wrong for anyone to go after our politicians at any point- its immoral and we must rise up against this and stop it
however over in iraq et al- they faciliatate disastrously regime change then complain when people rise up against it
typical hypocrisy
donaly trump - the lad who inherited his dads money went bankrupt and then used the banks to help him out- the american dream. he couldn't even beat a group of scottish villagers for fucks sake- the cartel would scalp him for fun. its good to see the bully get the tables turned.
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That was the first war where we fought with self imposed restraints. And we still won. We won every single battle fought. We killed over 10x the enemy than we lost. And just like in Iraq, we left. And over twice as many people were murdered by the Communist in less than two years than in our entire 10 year involvement in Vietnam. A fact that is never spoken of by the Left. The compassionate Left. My sister-in-law still has the bullet scars on her left arm and right leg as her and her family tried crossing the Mekong river to get to Thailand. She got to see her little brother's head blown apart right in front of her.
That's what we were trying to prevent. Communist expansion and Communist genocide.
When America wants you they will get you. It may take months, years or even decades, like the Unibomber and Whitey Bulger, but they will get you.
They will always get you. The only escape is to die.
That was the first war where we fought with self imposed restraints. And we still won. We won every single battle fought. We killed over 10x the enemy than we lost. And just like in Iraq, we left. And over twice as many people were murdered by the Communist in less than two years than in our entire 10 year involvement in Vietnam. A fact that is never spoken of by the Left. The compassionate Left. My sister-in-law still has the bullet scars on her left arm and right leg as her and her family tried crossing the Mekong river to get to Thailand. She got to see her little brother's head blown apart right in front of her.
That's what we were trying to prevent. Communist expansion and Communist genocide.
When America wants you they will get you. It may take months, years or even decades, like the Unibomber and Whitey Bulger, but they will get you.
They will always get you. The only escape is to die.
It is this kind of thinking which makes the rest of the world laugh at the US. A complete lack of objectivity about the stated aims and objectives around the war, versus the actual outcome. Ditto Iraq.
It seems Team America: World Police view winning as spending Billions of dollars on wars, which ultimately result in zero change in the countries they intervene in, whilst unnecessarily killing and injuring innocents and their own military personnel. And let us not forget the fact that all this violence just creates more people with an axe to grind.
The biggest irony is that they are actually bankrupting themselves. Think of all the tax dollars that could have been spent on improving things for their own citizens. It is utterly bewildering that people such as yourself are actually proud of such monumental stupidity. You are the ones being cheated!
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WEIGHT 165lbs!!
what a beast!!!
Don't forget 5'8 which means he's actually a strong 5'6 def a beast
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I love how Trump said, "You can't be intimidated."
Yet, he calls the FBI. Seems like he's more than intimidated. :D :D He's probably shitting his pants.
You're such a moron! He shouldn't notify anybody when a the leader of a Mexican drug cartel publicly threatens your life?
The only one shitting in his pants is you as you can't tear yourself away from the computer and GetBig. God, I've been here longer than you yet you have 13,000 more posts than I do.
Get a life and change that diaper.
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Are you for real? He would be an idiot if he DIDN'T call the FBI.
Yes, SF is a colossal idiot. Calling the FBI and increasing security as the threat increases means you're intimidated?
He just needs to shut up when adults are talking and go back to the WYHI and DLB threads.
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Like anything is going to happen. ::) ::) All theater.
Yeah, drug lords are known for just playing around.
Please suicide yourself
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It is this kind of thinking which makes the rest of the world laugh at the US. A complete lack of objectivity about the stated aims and objectives around the war, versus the actual outcome. Ditto Iraq.
It seems Team America: World Police view winning as spending Billions of dollars on wars, which ultimately result in zero change in the countries they intervene in, whilst unnecessarily killing and injuring innocents and their own military personnel. And let us not forget the fact that all this violence just creates more people with an axe to grind.
The biggest irony is that they are actually bankrupting themselves. Think of all the tax dollars that could have been spent on improving things for their own citizens. It is utterly bewildering that people such as yourself are actually proud of such monumental stupidity. You are the ones being cheated!
And it's ignorance of history and verifiable facts that inspire your kind of ungrateful thinking and why you don't deserve to call yourself an American nor live in this country.
And zero change in countries that we intervene in? Have you forgotten Western Europe? West Germany? How about South Korea?
And Iraq? Free elections, schools open to include women, oil money now going to the country instead of Saddam's pocket. And get your facts straight. The people didn't rebel they were invaded due to the vacuum created when America left. Just like in Vietnam. All military leaders and experts concur.
Please get out of this country you ingrate.
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And it's ignorance of history and verifiable facts that inspire your kind of ungrateful thinking and why you don't deserve to call yourself an American nor live in this country.
And zero change in countries that we intervene in? Have you forgotten Western Europe? West Germany? How about South Korea?
And Iraq? Free elections, schools open to include women, oil money now going to the country instead of Saddam's pocket. And get your facts straight. The people didn't rebel they were invaded due to the vacuum created when America left. Just like in Vietnam. All military leaders and experts concur.
Please get out of this country you ingrate.
And it's ignorance of history and verifiable facts that inspire your kind of ungrateful thinking and why you don't deserve to call yourself an American nor live in this country.
And zero change in countries that we intervene in? Have you forgotten Western Europe? West Germany? How about South Korea?
And Iraq? Free elections, schools open to include women, oil money now going to the country instead of Saddam's pocket. And get your facts straight. The people didn't rebel they were invaded due to the vacuum created when America left. Just like in Vietnam. All military leaders and experts concur.
Please get out of this country you ingrate.
If it wasn't abundantly clear from my writings: I do not live in the US. Not a shock that you didn't pick up on this, americans tend to like their own rhetoric too much to actually listen to what anyone else communicates. Also, you clearly do not understand what an intervention consists of.
intervention (ˌɪntəˈvɛnʃən)
n
1. the act of intervening
2. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) any interference in the affairs of others, esp by one state in the affairs of another
Being invited to do something does not constitute an intervention. The US involvement in the second world war is not an intervention. There was an express request from the allied forces, but even then, in the face of a manifestly just cause, they would not commit militarily until provoked by the Japanese.
I also can't thank you enough for succinctly pointing the very argument I was making. The objective of the iraq intervention was to leave a stable and autonomous state following the overthrow of Saddam. As you highlighted, following the US intervention, the exact opposite has occurred. You now have ISIS and continuing war, a direct product of the chain of causation beginning with american military intervention. Hardly meeting the stated objectives. But I suppose you would classify this as a "win" for the US.
So what are you, the american tax payer, left with following the astronomical military spend? Non-fulfilment of stated political objectives, huge debts and american lives lost. I don't see how you can class this as anything other than abject failure.
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I think he can cash any checks he writes. He's been around a long' long time and has connections around the world. And nine billion dollars. Hell, he can bail out Greece all by himself.
This is good publicity for him and he may even be seen as a hero.
Yes, but El Chapo has a team of psychopaths who graduated Magna Cum Laude in the art of body dismemberment, disposal and torture who he mobilizes whenever he wants wherever he wants. If you happen to be kidnapped by this group, you will be assured a slow and painful death. I mean, their horrendous crimes in Mexico, and the pictures to go along with the macro dismemberment "parties," are there for all to see. There's no shot in the back of the head for them. They take you against your will, torture you, and when you are no longer needed, will start chopping limbs off starting with toes (one at a time) and work their way up until they give you a "bath," which is nothing more than let you drown in a barrel full of sulfuric acid.
These are the most sadistic killers I've ever heard of. So I bet The Donald is not going to be sleeping easy for the rest of his life.
Plain and simple, he fucked up.
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Nothing beats the Colombian drug lords though. They invented torture techniques that are so beyond what was done previously that it still boggles my mind how they actually conceived those things.
Case and point: If you worked for the Medellin cartel and you were found to be an informant, they would insert a rat into your internal organs so that the rat would try to eat its way out, and in the process slowly bleed you (internally) to death.
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Yes, but El Chapo has a team of psychopaths who graduated Magna Cum Laude in the art of body dismemberment, disposal and torture who he mobilizes whenever he wants wherever he wants. If you happen to be kidnapped by this group, you will be assured a slow and painful death. I mean, their horrendous crimes in Mexico, and the pictures to go along with the macro dismemberment "parties," are there for all to see. There's no shot in the back of the head for them. They take you against your will, torture you, and when you are no longer needed, will start chopping limbs off starting with toes (one at a time) and work their way up until they give you a "bath," which is nothing more than let you drown in a barrel full of sulfuric acid.
These are the most sadistic killers I've ever heard of. So I bet The Donald is not going to be sleeping easy for the rest of his life.
Plain and simple, he fucked up.
There are sadistic killers all over the world. But, the Mexicans don't mess with MS13, who are bad as well, and don't like Mexicans. Then you have the Jamaicans, Colombians, and Brazilians. And let's not forget ISIS, who have been beheading people and making vids, among other things.
Haven't you been paying attention to what G Thang has said about South of our Border? It's no man's land.
Don't you even pay attention? Any attempt on Trump proves his point. This forces America to deal with the problem. Other rich people, other politicians began to think "what about me", so they have the problem handled.
Things really get handled only when rich people feel it. Tons of regular citizens have had to deal with this "immigration issue", and now it may come to a head, and forces the American government to act.
Plus, with 9 billion dollars, Trump can hire some sadistic killers of his own, if not hire the same ones that El Chapo has.
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If it wasn't abundantly clear from my writings: I do not live in the US. Not a shock that you didn't pick up on this, americans tend to like their own rhetoric too much to actually listen to what anyone else communicates. Also, you clearly do not understand what an intervention consists of.
intervention (ˌɪntəˈvɛnʃən)
n
1. the act of intervening
2. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) any interference in the affairs of others, esp by one state in the affairs of another
Being invited to do something does not constitute an intervention. The US involvement in the second world war is not an intervention. There was an express request from the allied forces, but even then, in the face of a manifestly just cause, they would not commit militarily until provoked by the Japanese.
I also can't thank you enough for succinctly pointing the very argument I was making. The objective of the iraq intervention was to leave a stable and autonomous state following the overthrow of Saddam. As you highlighted, following the US intervention, the exact opposite has occurred. You now have ISIS and continuing war, a direct product of the chain of causation beginning with american military intervention. Hardly meeting the stated objectives. But I suppose you would classify this as a "win" for the US.
So what are you, the american tax payer, left with following the astronomical military spend? Non-fulfilment of stated political objectives, huge debts and american lives lost. I don't see how you can class this as anything other than abject failure.
In that case, don't ever step on American soil. And it was America leaving Iraq that gave us ISIS just like America leaving Vietnam gaves us Pol Pot.
And if you are not ashamed to admit it, where are you from?
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Yes, but El Chapo has a team of psychopaths who graduated Magna Cum Laude in the art of body dismemberment, disposal and torture who he mobilizes whenever he wants wherever he wants. If you happen to be kidnapped by this group, you will be assured a slow and painful death. I mean, their horrendous crimes in Mexico, and the pictures to go along with the macro dismemberment "parties," are there for all to see. There's no shot in the back of the head for them. They take you against your will, torture you, and when you are no longer needed, will start chopping limbs off starting with toes (one at a time) and work their way up until they give you a "bath," which is nothing more than let you drown in a barrel full of sulfuric acid.
These are the most sadistic killers I've ever heard of. So I bet The Donald is not going to be sleeping easy for the rest of his life.
Plain and simple, he fucked up.
Being ruthless doesn't make you a more effective fighter. It just makes you an animal. We have Special Forces that graduated Magna Cum Laude in kicking the world's ass. No army in the world can match up with us when we pull out all the stops let alone a bunch of drug runners.
And speaking the truth is not fucking up. It's called courage. We need more leaders with that trait.
Trump will come out of this looking like a hero.
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There are sadistic killers all over the world, and you pick these guys because Mexican workers told you some stories? Yes, they are terrible and sadistic. The Mexicans don't mess with MS13, who are bad as well, and don't like Mexicans. Then you have the Jamaicans, Colombians, and Brazilians. And let's not forget ISIS, who have been beheading people and making vids, among other things.
Haven't you been paying attention to what G Thang has said about South of our Border? It's no man's land.
Don't you even pay attention? Any attempt on Trump proves his point. This forces America to deal with the problem. Other rich people, other politicians began to think "what about me", so they have the problem handled.
Things really get handled only when rich people feel it. Tons of regular citizens have had to deal with this "immigration issue", and now it may come to a head, and forces the American government to act.
Plus, with 9 billion dollars, Trump can hire some sadistic killers of his own, if not hire the same ones that El Chapo has.
So fuking spot on it gave me chills.
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It is this kind of thinking which makes the rest of the world laugh at the US. A complete lack of objectivity about the stated aims and objectives around the war, versus the actual outcome. Ditto Iraq.
It seems Team America: World Police view winning as spending Billions of dollars on wars, which ultimately result in zero change in the countries they intervene in, whilst unnecessarily killing and injuring innocents and their own military personnel. And let us not forget the fact that all this violence just creates more people with an axe to grind.
The biggest irony is that they are actually bankrupting themselves. Think of all the tax dollars that could have been spent on improving things for their own citizens. It is utterly bewildering that people such as yourself are actually proud of such monumental stupidity. You are the ones being cheated!
While I am no fan of "foreign adventures", it's hard to say with a straight face that the money would have been better spent domestically. We have spent trillions on the drug war, and drugs are winning. The more we spend on education and head start, the dumber we get (it's almost as if the family unit has more to do with academic achievement than federal education spending. Shocking). We pour trillions into EBT, SNAP, SSI and the other alphabet soup of "assistance programs" only to create a generational dependence on handouts (it's a design goal!).
How about instead of foreign interventions and stupid, ineffective and prone to graft and cronyism federal boondoggles, we just let Americans keep their own fucking money to spend as they please?
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While I am no fan of "foreign adventures", it's hard to say with a straight face that the money would have been better spent domestically. We have spent trillions on the drug war, and drugs are winning. The more we spend on education and head start, the dumber we get (it's almost as if the family unit has more to do with academic achievement than federal education spending. Shocking). We pour trillions into EBT, SNAP, SSI and the other alphabet soup of "assistance programs" only to create a generational dependence on handouts (it's a design goal!).
How about instead of foreign interventions and stupid, ineffective and prone to graft and cronyism federal boondoggles, we just let Americans keep their own fucking money to spend as they please?
Our infrastructure is falling apart. It's laughable. All the trillions of dollars could have been spent domestically, on our aging infrastructure and our schools.
You don't poor billions into getting people on the things that you listed, but getting them off that. Keeping them on is only political---votes.
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Not if it's Trump. Obama will probably declare it a national holiday.
Politicians always protect their own kind. Next day could be them the target of threats.
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Politicians always protect their own kind. Next day could be them the target of threats.
Not just politicians but billionaires. They are a close knit group. Always meeting to ensure they can keep their billions and bilk people out of more.
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So, Trumps threatens to kick El Chapo's ass, and then calls the FBI when he gets a Mexican reply. What a farkin' tool. You couldn't make this shit up. ;D
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Not just politicians but billionaires. They are a close knit group. Always meeting to ensure they can keep their billions and bilk people out of more.
Yeah...
So the thinking of let's threaten or make an attempt on a well known billionaire, politician, presidential candidate is not the smartest thing to do.
It's also in a way influencing American elections. The dynamics and potential problems that could develop be aize of this are too hard to ignore and take lightly.
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Yeah...
So the thinking of let's threaten or make an attempt on a well known billionaire, politician, presidential candidate is not the smartest thing to do.
It's also in a way influencing American elections. The dynamics and potential problems that could develop be aize of this are too hard to ignore and take lightly.
Think about this. If Trump hires some mercenaries to track down and take out El Chapo, do you think his popularity will rise? I think he'd be able to ride the wave of popularity right through the primaries and go against Hillary.
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Think about this. If Trump hires some mercenaries to track down and take out El Chapo, do you think his popularity will rise? I think he'd be able to ride the wave of popularity right through the primaries and go against Hillary.
yep, people aren't seeing the big picture
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Trump just released his entire security staff; and he replaced them with ESFITNESS
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Think about this. If Trump hires some mercenaries to track down and take out El Chapo, do you think his popularity will rise? I think he'd be able to ride the wave of popularity right through the primaries and go against Hillary.
He would have to be cagey. Like El Chapo is assassinated by parties unknown and Trump just goes to the stump and casually mentions it. "It's a dang shame what happened to El Chapo after he threatened an American..."
Of course, then Trump would be on every b-eener's hit list.
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Trump just released his entire security staff; and he replaced them with ESFITNESS
What about SMM? He of the German Shepard spine breaking?
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In that case, don't ever step on American soil. And it was America leaving Iraq that gave us ISIS just like America leaving Vietnam gaves us Pol Pot.
And if you are not ashamed to admit it, where are you from?
Epic reductionist thinking on your part. Because I disagree with American interventionalism I should forego ever visiting that country. Luckily for me, even your government does not implement such a simplistic, idiotic train of thought.
Yet again you are confirming my argument. If the US hasn't of intervened, we wouldn't have awful (to coin an american term): "blowback" situations. As mentioned previously: chain of causation (I would suggest you look up causality).
I am from the UK. I am ashamed of our governments involvement in foreign interventions. I don't believe Iraq is a better place because of our involvement, and I believe the money / lives lost in these endeavours is an absolute disgrace.
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Epic reductionist thinking on your part. Because I disagree with American interventionalism I should forego ever visiting that country. Luckily for me, even your government does not implement such a simplistic, idiotic train of thought.
Yet again you are confirming my argument. If the US hasn't of intervened, we wouldn't have awful (to coin an american term): "blowback" situations. As mentioned previously: chain of causation (I would suggest you look up causality).
I am from the UK. I am ashamed of our governments involvement in foreign interventions. I don't believe Iraq is a better place because of our involvement, and I believe the money / lives lost in these endeavours is an absolute disgrace.
The real world is a Hobbsian dystopian nightmare ("No arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death: and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short."). Absent our country's "foreign adventures", are you prepared to watch scenes of horror daily on the TV and remain steadfast in your non-interventionist ways? Methinks that maybe you would prefer foreign adventures that have no possible national value, like feeding poor people in Africa and/or Haiti?
I am. The rest of the world can go fuck themselves. I won the lottery living in the first-world and they didn't. Sorry. And if you fucking towel heads even take a sideways glance in my direction, threaten me or my sovereign Citizens abroad, I shall take one of your cities in a maelstrom of nuclear fire.
Trust me that peace will reign for a thousand years.
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He would have to be cagey.
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Being ruthless doesn't make you a more effective fighter. It just makes you an animal. We have Special Forces that graduated Magna Cum Laude in kicking the world's ass. No army in the world can match up with us when we pull out all the stops let alone a bunch of drug runners.
And speaking the truth is not fucking up. It's called courage. We need more leaders with that trait.
Trump will come out of this looking like a hero.
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong, if they were to start killing Americans, then they become OUR problem. And I'm no friend of exchanging rock for missile. I'd be OK if our military turned Sinaloa into a 3 foot-thick sheet of glass (what usually happens when you get nuked).
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The real world is a Hobbsian dystopian nightmare ("No arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death: and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short."). Absent our country's "foreign adventures", are you prepared to watch scenes of horror daily on the TV and remain steadfast in your non-interventionist ways? Methinks that maybe you would prefer foreign adventures that have no possible national value, like feeding poor people in Africa and/or Haiti?
I am. The rest of the world can go fuck themselves. I won the lottery living in the first-world and they didn't. Sorry. And if you fucking towel heads even take a sideways glance in my direction, threaten me or my sovereign Citizens abroad, I shall take one of your cities in a maelstrom of nuclear fire.
Trust me that peace will reign for a thousand years.
I tend to agree. Let us just focus on sorting our home grown problems out, and leave the rest to it. You don't see China wasting its money on pointless wars. Leave the cesspit of the middle east to butcher itself.
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Is El Chapo really the bad guy when 99% of the drugs he produces are consumed here in the USA?
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What about SMM? He of the German Shepard spine breaking?
Add Irish Dave too :D
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Phuck that little greaser midget.....Mexico is a toilet....I have spent lots of time there....dumb, corrupt....most are dishonest thieves...
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Is El Chapo really the bad guy when 99% of the drugs he produces are consumed here in the USA?
100 thousand innocent people murdered in Mexico in the last 7-8 years because of the drug wars.....you phuckin moron.....
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That Mexican culture, so rich and vibrant. You cans see that Trump was wrong about these hard working, brilliant, innovators.
They just want a better life.
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That Mexican culture, so rich and vibrant. You cans see that Trump was wrong about these hard working, brilliant, innovators.
They just want a better life.
Yes, they have all written Beethoven's 9th.
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100 thousand innocent people murdered in Mexico in the last 7-8 years because of the drug wars.....you phuckin moron.....
Drug wars are a business just like war terrorism, how many Iraqi's died you think in the past 7-8 years to fund the military complex?
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Yes, they have all written Beethoven's 9th.
Just cleaning houses and mowing lawns while they work their way through school getting their Master's degree.
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While I am no fan of "foreign adventures", it's hard to say with a straight face that the money would have been better spent domestically. We have spent trillions on the drug war, and drugs are winning. The more we spend on education and head start, the dumber we get (it's almost as if the family unit has more to do with academic achievement than federal education spending. Shocking). We pour trillions into EBT, SNAP, SSI and the other alphabet soup of "assistance programs" only to create a generational dependence on handouts (it's a design goal!).
How about instead of foreign interventions and stupid, ineffective and prone to graft and cronyism federal boondoggles, we just let Americans keep their own fucking money to spend as they please?
Smartest post of the thread.
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Our infrastructure is falling apart. It's laughable. All the trillions of dollars could have been spent domestically, on our aging infrastructure and our schools.
You don't poor billions into getting people on the things that you listed, but getting them off that. Keeping them on is only political---votes.
No.
Unless it's to hire homework police who show up at night to force apathetic parents to take an interest in their kids' fucking education.
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"Continue fucking around and I will make you swallow all your whore words fucking white fa66ot."
Surprised GLAAD and LGBT's social justice warriors haven't yet called for Chapo's head over this.
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What about SMM? He of the German Shepard spine breaking?
Haha! Classic strongman event.
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Smartest post of the thread.
Yeah, and we can't trust politicians with tax dollars anyway. Most of what we pay in taxes gets wasted one way or another and isn't much used for what it's intended for. And the government way, way overpays for everything anyway.
Speaking of Donnie Trump...
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-says-hes-worth-10-billion-2015-07-15?dist=tbeforebell (http://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-says-hes-worth-10-billion-2015-07-15?dist=tbeforebell)
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That sneaky motherf#cker!
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That Mexican culture, so rich and vibrant. You cans see that Trump was wrong about these hard working, brilliant, innovators.
They just want a better life.
Would you be surprised if Chapo was helped (taken out of prison) by Americans ?
WoooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CHAPO
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100 thousand innocent people murdered in Mexico in the last 7-8 years because of the drug wars.....you phuckin moron.....
Fuck off with this innocent bullshit. Majority were faction gang and cartel members. Filt taking out the Filt.