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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Al Doggity on July 15, 2015, 06:05:52 PM
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I started a new routine about 5 weeks ago that was all free weights, no cables or machines. The results have been great. I've always done deadlifts sporadically, but have been doing them twice a week lately. Last nights workout was 495 for '9 reps across 3 sets, not God-like numbers, but decent.
Most "serious" lifters are really vocal about deadlifts being the king of exercises. I don't know... I feel like my deadlift gains don't translate to other exercises. When my barbell row increases, so do chinups and biceps exercises. When my shoulder press increases, so does chest. I noticed I was at a sticking point with deadlifts and I got past that sticking point by increasing my squat. I don't feel like deadlifts helped my squats.
Before starting this routine, I would notice that if I went a few workouts skipping deadlifts but getting in solid workouts on other exercises, my deadlift numbers stayed stable( I don't try to max out, my current of 495 for reps is the highest I've ever regularly lifted). If I focused on deadlifts for a few workouts, my chinup would feel weaker and I was handling less weight on barbell rows.
Anybody else feel like deadlifts are overrated, or at the very least, they aren't effective for you?
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Pointless exercise
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I started a new routine about 5 weeks ago that was all free weights, no cables or machines. The results have been great. I've always done deadlifts sporadically, but have been doing them twice a week lately. Last nights workout was 495 for '9 reps across 3 sets, not God-like numbers, but decent.
Most "serious" lifters are really vocal about deadlifts being the king of exercises. I don't know... I feel like my deadlift gains don't translate to other exercises. When my barbell row increases, so do chinups and biceps exercises. When my shoulder press increases, so does chest. I noticed I was at a sticking point with deadlifts and I got past that sticking point by increasing my squat. I don't feel like deadlifts helped my squats.
Before starting this routine, I would notice that if I went a few workouts skipping deadlifts but getting in solid workouts on other exercises, my deadlift numbers stayed stable( I don't try to max out, my current of 495 for reps is the highest I've ever regularly lifted). If I focused on deadlifts for a few workouts, my chinup would feel weaker and I was handling less weight on barbell rows.
Anybody else feel like deadlifts are overrated, or at the very least, they aren't effective for you?
Overrated for bodybuilding purposes. Of course a must for anything else.
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you have to be careful because you'll tax your nervous system and throw the other stuff off
that would be a "rookie mistake" though.
:D
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Overrated for bodybuilding purposes. Of course a must for anything else.
Lol...how little you know
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Lol...how little you know
I LOVE a good training debate....let's debate. You start.
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I LOVE a good training debate....let's debate. You start.
Joe, why do you give these gimmicks the pleasure?
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I LOVE a good training debate....let's debate. You start.
Debate? You post an asinine statement and you expect me to debate you? Lol
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Overrated for bodybuilding purposes. Of course a must for anything else.
Even for power- which is why I switched it up- I feel like they aren't really doing that much. I mean, obviously, it's better than just sitting on my couch and it takes strength to move plates, but I don't feel like my gains in that exercise have affected my other lifts.
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When I don't deadlifts for an extended period; my lower back develops low-grade pain & nagging injuries.
Re-introducing deadlifts completely remedies the problem.
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The only people who don't deadlift are
1.) People with back problems
2.) People who like to complain
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Even for power- which is why I switched it up- I feel like they aren't really doing that much. I mean, obviously, it's better than just sitting on my couch and it takes strength to move plates, but I don't feel like my gains in that exercise have affected my other lifts.
Simply means you don't know how to lift weights and you don't know what to eat.
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Think it's better for athletes than bb'ers. They tax the CNS too much when you could save that output for rowing and pulling movements that actually target the back much better.
But being able to deadlift 3plates for 10 easy reps often does equate a strong real life person and that can transfer over to the other lifts.
Not a fan of the thickening of the waist either caused by them, for my needs, I feel they're not needed.
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The only people who don't deadlift are
1.) People with back problems
2.) People who like to complain
The people that have back problems usually only have that problem because they don't deadlift.
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Think it's better for athletes than bb'ers. They tax the CNS too much when you could save that output for rowing and pulling movements that actually target the back much better.
But being able to deadlift 3plates for 10 easy reps often does equate a strong real life person and that can transfer over to the other lifts.
Not a fan of the thickening of the waist either caused by them, for my needs, I feel they're not needed.
Need to change the name of this site to Getsmall.com. WTF???
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Need to change the name of this site to Getsmall.com. WTF???
why do you say that?
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why do you say that?
Threads explaining why you shouldn't deadlift, threads saying don't squat, don't bench...threads about black Hebrews and other strange things...are you a bodybuilder or not?
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The people that have back problems usually only have that problem because they don't deadlift.
Yeah if I stop my lower back gets weak.
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Threads explaining why you shouldn't deadlift, threads saying don't squat, don't bench...threads about black Hebrews and other strange things...are you a bodybuilder or not?
Deads are for powerlifters.
Mostly...
Can benefit bb'ers but it depends on that person's shape/structure. If you squat, maybe doing deads is not needed, so that's why I doN't wanna throw in any blanket statements.
I think deads are good for newbs to be taught hard work. If they can get to 4 plates a side, it shows they're ready to put in work and that is worth something. But will it pay off for the ulitmate body?
Not always is what I'm trying to say.
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The people that have back problems usually only have that problem because they don't deadlift.
For the longest time, I avoided regularly deadlifting because I was afraid of potential back injury,but for some reason they do help with back discomfort. During my second back session, my back was hurting from standing shoulder presses, but I stubbornly continued on with heavy deadlifts. I was convinced I was going to snap some shit up, but the pain had decreased by the end of that workout.
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Threads explaining why you shouldn't deadlift, threads saying don't squat, don't bench...threads about black Hebrews and other strange things...are you a bodybuilder or not?
So, you feel like deads are an effective bodybuilding exercise?
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The only people who don't deadlift are
1.) People with back problems
2.) People who like to complain
3.) phaggot ass bitches
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So, you feel like deads are an effective bodybuilding exercise?
Do you really think that your going to engage in an actual training discussion with that tired gimmick? Good Lord, why do you bother?
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3.) phaggot ass bitches
So I take it you don't do them?
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My best results have always come when I have deadlifts in my routine.
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why do you say that?
Ignore him. He's a gimmick. I shouldn't have responded to the clown.
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Ignore him. He's a gimmick. I shouldn't have responded to the clown.
I know, lol, was trying to see how others would defend the movement or not... Always a fun debate.
I would however fear an opponent who could pick up 5-600lbs from the floor than one who couldn't...
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I think everyone should know how to properly pick something heavy off the ground
Kids should know how to deadlift
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I think everyone should know how to properly pick something heavy off the ground
Kids should know how to deadlift
as you may have seen or noticed, babies pick up stuff with perfect form, we're born knowing this but our lifestyle fucks it up.
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The only people who don't deadlift are
1.) People with back problems
2.) People who like to complain
This is the kind of conventional wisdom that has me still doing them even though I don't think they're for shit.
Consistent deadlifting is not indicative of a good physique the way consistent benching or curls are.
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as you may have seen or noticed, babies pick up stuff with perfect form, we're born knowing this but our lifestyle fucks it up.
Same with squatting.
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as you may have seen or noticed, babies pick up stuff with perfect form, we're born knowing this but our lifestyle fucks it up.
agreed
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Same with squatting.
most kids can do a perfect pistol squat
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Same with squatting.
yup, text book. I think we're gonna see more "trainers" specializing in early infant development, simple things like posturology to make sure the base is stable, even and so on...
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The only people who don't deadlift are
1.) People with back problems
2.) People who like to complain
3.) People who have torn a biceps doing heavy deadlifts.
Bodybuilding is like a religion. It amazes me what people believe and do in the gym. Heavy deadlifting is a dangerous exercise, period.
So are bench presses, arm wrestling, upright rows, hack squats, heavy pullovers, various triceps exercises with barbells, and so on.
Bodybuilders will still do deadlifts no matter what the evidence is. I call that being dense.
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As has been mentioned it is great for keeping the back pain free. This alone makes them worth their weight in gold for me as back feels like shit without them.
I think they are overrated as a total back builder, but are great for building the lower back and traps.
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As has been mentioned it is great for keeping the back pain free. This alone makes them worth their weight in gold for me as back feels like shit without them.
I think they are overrated as a total back builder, but are great for building the lower back and traps.
Totally unbelieveable statement. Deadlifting will lead to back pain....sooner or later.
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Totally unbelieveable statement. Deadlifting will lead to back pain....sooner or later.
And that's the biggest bunch of bullshit you've stated on here to date that's training related. Bass generator is dead on. If you have back problems as a result of deads, you have NO clue about training. And this is an absolute FACT!!
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And that's the biggest bunch of bullshit you've stated on here to date that's training related. Bass generator is dead on. If you have back problems as a result of deads, you have NO clue about training. And this is an absolute FACT!!
What a bunch of ignorant dorks here. Most bodybuilders are plainly quite stupid. What a shame that is.
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What a bunch of ignorant dorks here. Most bodybuilders are plainly quite stupid. What a shame that is.
Back up your statement. What you're basically saying is that any bent over variation will hurt your back. Really Vince? Is that what you're saying?
Btw Vince, I'm a strength coach before I'm a bodybuilder. Think about that.
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What a bunch of ignorant dorks here. Most bodybuilders are plainly quite stupid. What a shame that is.
Vince, why will you not answer my PM's? You know, the PM I sent you where I described wanting to gently caress and kiss your hairy belly. Get back to me with an answer.
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I don't think you need to do dead lifts to become a successful bodybuilder. I think Levrone claimed never to do them.
But, whether you are a bodybuilder or not, one of the reasons one should do weight lifting is to improve functional ability. Dead lifts are probably the most real life exercise you can do. Picking things up off the ground is something you do regularly. Might as well improve your ability to do that.
I personally don't like dead lifts and I believe you can develop you legs, hams and lower back with other, easier, lifts. But I've been doing them regularly for decades.
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3.) People who have torn a biceps doing heavy deadlifts.
Bodybuilding is like a religion. It amazes me what people believe and do in the gym. Heavy deadlifting is a dangerous exercise, period.
So are bench presses, arm wrestling, upright rows, hack squats, heavy pullovers, various triceps exercises with barbells, and so on.
Bodybuilders will still do deadlifts no matter what the evidence is. I call that being dense.
Exceeding the tensile strength of a muscle causing a tear can happen with any exercise. It's more common with the dead lift because of the amount of weight you can move.
And all exercises can be dangerous and cause injury if done improperly.
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Every single winning NPC and IFBB bodybuilder I know, and I know hundreds- has incorporated deadlifts at some point in their career.
Perhaps early in their training to build a base and power. Perhaps with light/moderate weight close to contest time to bring out detail, refinement and "tie-ins".
Learn your technique and you will never get hurt deadlifting.
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Never take training advice from VinceB.
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I don't think you need to do dead lifts to become a successful bodybuilder. I think Levrone claimed never to do them.
But, whether you are a bodybuilder or not, one of the reasons one should do weight lifting is to improve functional ability. Dead lifts are probably the most real life exercise you can do. Picking things up off the ground is something you do regularly. Might as well improve your ability to do that.
I personally don't like dead lifts and I believe you can develop you legs, hams and lower back with other, easier, lifts. But I've been doing them regularly for decades.
His body would have needed them, he lacked thickness in his back and legs.
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What a bunch of ignorant dorks here. Most bodybuilders are plainly quite stupid. What a shame that is.
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Totally unbelieveable statement. Deadlifting will lead to back pain....sooner or later.
No it won't you fat old bastard
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Exceeding the tensile strength of a muscle causing a tear can happen with any exercise. It's more common with the dead lift because of the amount of weight you can move.
And all exercises can be dangerous and cause injury if done improperly.
Tensile strength is usually related to tendons. If there is a tear from deads it's usually the bicep tendon. In most cases if you're tearing either bicep muscle or its tendon, something is missing in your training. Vince is too stupid to realize this.
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Tensile strength is usually related to tendons. If there is a tear from deads it's usually the bicep tendon. In most cases if you're tearing either bicep muscle or its tendon, something is missing in your training. Vince is too stupid to realize this.
Nonsense! The biceptinator creates biceps immune to tears from the deadlift.
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Nonsense! The biceptinator creates biceps immune to tears from the deadlift.
I stand corrected. But the next time Vince creates his bicep time machine I hope he takes some actual studies into consideration. Here Vince, let me help. (I only want 49% of the proceeds for this invention)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22030096/
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His body would have needed them, he lacked thickness in his back and legs.
Perhaps, but there were a lot of bodybuilders that dead lift that don't have a thick back or legs. And I think Levrone legs were great during his early years.
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Tensile strength is usually related to tendons. If there is a tear from deads it's usually the bicep tendon. In most cases if you're tearing either bicep muscle or its tendon, something is missing in your training. Vince is too stupid to realize this.
Yes, you are right.
But, just to be precise, I don't think it's necessarily something missing from your training. Usually it's because of incorrect training.
Unless you define poor execution as "missing" proper technique.
In my experience, which I admit doesn't come close to yours, it has been explosive movements, not heavy resistance, that is more likely to cause injury. It's the difference between velocity and acceleration. You can sit in a plane going 300 mph with no problem but go from zero to sixty in one second and your head comes off.
I can press my fist against a brick wall as hard as I can and nothing will happen. Punch it and my bones break.
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Taking Vince's training advices would be pretty much like cutting your dick off hoping it will regrow bigger.
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Partial deads, yes. Full, no.
My greatest strength and size gains on back came from doing partial deads starting from mid shin in a rack. It takes the legs out of the equation just enough so that the focus is where it should be. I feel the key is to focus on really controlling the reps rather than pulling explosively. You might need to reduce the weight to allow this, but it will mean the negative portion can be controlled more also.
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I only do them with very light weights, and stopping 10 inches above ground level. Otherwise my lower back will get damaged. The whole point of bodybuilding after all is improving your health, not getting injured
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its an OVERRATED exercise!
but Romanian deadlift is good for bodybuilder.
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I think as a test of absolute strength we have yet to find a single exercise better than the deadlift to use for comparison. Unlike the squat there is no grey area in terms of range of motion and depth. For many athletes (e.g. strongmen, wrestlers & MMA, rugby players - basically any sport that requires a grip, pulling strength and core stability) improving your deadlift will directly improve your physical performance.
From a bodybuilding perspective I would imagine that how you are built and how you deadlift is the biggest factor as to how important a movement it is. I would say to deadlift anyway if you are a beginner or intermediate but I am sure at the higher levels of bodybuilding when the competitor is fine-tuning it may become difficult to fit heavy deadlifts into a split routine. A properly performed deadlift involves the use of the legs and back. Maybe "dividing" the move between straight leg deadlifts and rack pulls may be more beneficial at that point.
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I don't think you need to do dead lifts to become a successful bodybuilder. I think Levrone claimed never to do them.
But, whether you are a bodybuilder or not, one of the reasons one should do weight lifting is to improve functional ability. Dead lifts are probably the most real life exercise you can do. Picking things up off the ground is something you do regularly. Might as well improve your ability to do that.
I personally don't like dead lifts and I believe you can develop you legs, hams and lower back with other, easier, lifts. But I've been doing them regularly for decades.
Argument is void Kevin Levrone's back was his weak point....all the best backs in bodybuilding were built by guys who dead lifted....Franco, Dorian, Ronnie etc...with proper form you can't beat squats and deads...too many pussies try to find excuses as to why they cannot do these movements and they are the ones with the shitty legs/backs....
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I started a new routine about 5 weeks ago that was all free weights, no cables or machines. The results have been great. I've always done deadlifts sporadically, but have been doing them twice a week lately. Last nights workout was 495 for '9 reps across 3 sets, not God-like numbers, but decent.
Most "serious" lifters are really vocal about deadlifts being the king of exercises. I don't know... I feel like my deadlift gains don't translate to other exercises. When my barbell row increases, so do chinups and biceps exercises. When my shoulder press increases, so does chest. I noticed I was at a sticking point with deadlifts and I got past that sticking point by increasing my squat. I don't feel like deadlifts helped my squats.
Before starting this routine, I would notice that if I went a few workouts skipping deadlifts but getting in solid workouts on other exercises, my deadlift numbers stayed stable( I don't try to max out, my current of 495 for reps is the highest I've ever regularly lifted). If I focused on deadlifts for a few workouts, my chinup would feel weaker and I was handling less weight on barbell rows.
Anybody else feel like deadlifts are overrated, or at the very least, they aren't effective for you?
The deadlift, for most of the movement, (apart from recruiting the quads and hams a bit for the first quarter of the lift, and your back contracting at the top) is more of a display of levers and physics than a 'pure' muscle contraction like say shoulder press. That's probably why you don't lose many numbers on that lift if you don't deadlift for a few sessions. Unless your tendons or joints get particularly weakened, you will be able to 'pull' what you did last time.
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The deadlift, for most of the movement, (apart from recruiting the quads and hams a bit for the first quarter of the lift, and your back contracting at the top) is more of a display of levers and physics than a 'pure' muscle contraction like say shoulder press. That's probably why you don't lose many numbers on that lift if you don't deadlift for a few sessions. Unless your tendons or joints get particularly weakened, you will be able to 'pull' what you did last time.
I think stiff deads/Romanian deads are a diffrent story though...
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In the 90's, Levrone did 405LB stiff-legged deadlifts on leg day
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In the 90's, Levrone did 405LB stiff-legged deadlifts on leg day
trains all 3 positions...stretch,mid,contraction.
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Partial deads, yes. Full, no.
My greatest strength and size gains on back came from doing partial deads starting from mid shin in a rack. It takes the legs out of the equation just enough so that the focus is where it should be. I feel the key is to focus on really controlling the reps rather than pulling explosively. You might need to reduce the weight to allow this, but it will mean the negative portion can be controlled more also.
This is where I stand too. I only ever moved onto partials after a back injury, but since trying them have stuck with them. They add a thickness to my spinal erectors and traps that just isn't there otherwise.
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The deadlift, for most of the movement, (apart from recruiting the quads and hams a bit for the first quarter of the lift, and your back contracting at the top) is more of a display of levers and physics than a 'pure' muscle contraction like say shoulder press. That's probably why you don't lose many numbers on that lift if you don't deadlift for a few sessions. Unless your tendons or joints get particularly weakened, you will be able to 'pull' what you did last time.
Which falls in line with my thinking that it's usefulness is questionable. Other exercises help you build up your deadlift, but increasing your deadlift doesn't really affect other lifts.
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Argument is void Kevin Levrone's back was his weak point....all the best backs in bodybuilding were built by guys who dead lifted....Franco, Dorian, Ronnie etc...with proper form you can't beat squats and deads...too many pussies try to find excuses as to why they cannot do these movements and they are the ones with the shitty legs/backs....
This^
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Which falls in line with my thinking that it's usefulness is questionable. Other exercises help you build up your deadlift, but increasing your deadlift doesn't really affect other lifts.
give examples please.. I know people who never Deadlift and that have great erectors doing Hypers and such. Great Bodybuilders like V Gironda shunned squats/Deads although he did variations which he thought fitted his philosophy. what is your training programme?
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In the 90's, Levrone did 405LB stiff-legged deadlifts on leg day
that is completely different, you know this...
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Never take training advice from VinceB.
Not even once
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The only people who don't deadlift are
1.) People with back problems
2.) People who like to complain
3.) Girly men
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give examples please.. I know people who never Deadlift and that have great erectors doing Hypers and such. Great Bodybuilders like V Gironda shunned squats/Deads although he did variations which he thought fitted his philosophy. what is your training programme?
I think we're agreeing. I was saying that deads aren't obligatory.
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I think we're agreeing. I was saying that deads aren't obligatory.
I agree with you but what is your workout ?
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I agree with you but what is your workout ?
I gave a brief description in opening post, but here it is in a little more detail:
5 on/ 2 off, upper body twice a week.
Mon/Thur-tris followed by pecs
Tues/Fri-bis followed by back
Weds-quads and hamstrings
Abs and high volume calf raises every upperbody workout.
As I said in opening post, cut out machines as much as possible a few weeks ago.
I believe in hitting as many angles as possible, so I don't have a set routine, but bi/back day would look something like this:
BICEPS:
Seated curls supersetted with standing reverse grip curls
Hammer curls supersetted with incline curls
Concentration curls supersetted with decline curls
Barbell curls supersetted with high volume hammer curls
BACK:
Bent over barbell rows (overhand)
Bent over barbell rows (underhand) both supersetted with wrist curls
Chin ups supersetted with rear flyes
Deadlifts
High volume shrugs supersetted with pause and hold dumbbell rows
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I gave a brief description in opening post, but here it is in a little more detail:
5 on/ 2 off, upper body twice a week.
Mon/Thur-tris followed by pecs
Tues/Fri-bis followed by back
Weds-quads and hamstrings
Abs and high volume calf raises every upperbody workout.
As I said in opening post, cut out machines as much as possible a few weeks ago.
I believe in hitting as many angles as possible, so I don't have a set routine, but bi/back day would look something like this:
BICEPS:
Seated curls supersetted with standing reverse grip curls
Hammer curls supersetted with incline curls
Concentration curls supersetted with decline curls
Barbell curls supersetted with high volume hammer curls
BACK:
Bent over barbell rows (overhand)
Bent over barbell rows (underhand) both supersetted with wrist curls
Chin ups supersetted with rear flyes
Deadlifts
High volume shrugs supersetted with pause and hold dumbbell rows
Wow thats a lot of bicep volume
How are they responding to it?
Must get some great arm pumps
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Wow thats a lot of bicep volume
How are they responding to it?
Must get some great arm pumps
Great, honestly. I don't take weekly measurements or anything, but I can SEE improvement and I have had doms almost every workout with this routine, which I rarely used to get with arms.
Bare in mind, I'm doing really short rest periods (30 seconds max, shorter if I feel it), so arm workout usually takes about a half hour and back workout usually takes about that, maybe a little more.
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Deadlifts are phenomenal.. but like squats I think there is a significant percentage of the population that cannot do them or the risk of doing them outweighs the benefits.
Personally.. all lower back issues disappear for me when I am doing them regularly, and it has always been my strongest compound movement. If you don't enjoy them, just fuck off and do something else... same as any other exercise.
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If you don't enjoy them, just fuck off and do something else... same as any other exercise.
The issue is not whether or not they are "enjoyable", but whether or not they are actually worth doing. As I've stated a few times, my biggest issue is that strength gains on deadlift don't really seem to carry over to other exercises. The deadlift is considered the gold standard by so many serious lifters that I was interested in getting some thoughts on it.
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The issue is not whether or not they are "enjoyable", but whether or not they are actually worth doing. As I've stated a few times, my biggest issue is that strength gains on deadlift don't really seem to carry over to other exercises. The deadlift is considered the gold standard by so many serious lifters that I was interested in getting some thoughts on it.
The statement still stands.. you feel they are not worth doing? Cool, who gives a shit. Don't do them. Focus your efforts elsewhere on lifts that you feel are more productive for you. A lot of people think lunges are great but they hurt my knees, so I avoid them. Same principle applies here.
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dont know about overrated but they are considered a gay excercise so that part is kinda hard to get around
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The statement still stands.. you feel they are not worth doing? Cool, who gives a shit. Don't do them. Focus your efforts elsewhere on lifts that you feel are more productive for you. A lot of people think lunges are great but they hurt my knees, so I avoid them. Same principle applies here.
I'm not even sure what to say to this. I wanted to get some other points of view, to see if and why someone may have a different perspective.
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If you're intentional about it you can improve your bench by deadlifting. Somebody probably already said that though.
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If you're intentional about it you can improve your bench by deadlifting. Somebody probably already said that though.
deadlifts also cure hang nails if periodized properly.
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deadlifts also cure hang nails if periodized properly.
;D
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If you're intentional about it you can improve your bench by deadlifting. Somebody probably already said that though.
I said this earlier, but when my shoulder press increases it has an effect on my bench. When my bicep exercises increase, it has an effect on things like rows and chinups, for example. With deadlifts, I don't notice strength increases anywhere else. I notice that I can get past deadlift sticking points by increasing squats, but I don't feel like the reverse is true.
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I said this earlier, but when my shoulder press increases it has an effect on my bench. When my bicep exercises increase, it has an effect on things like rows and chinups, for example. With deadlifts, I don't notice strength increases anywhere else. I notice that I can get past deadlift sticking points by increasing squats, but I don't feel like the reverse is true.
I would stick with it.
my feeling is you should get stronger pressing and rows should improve too. If not perhaps the deadlift is going up because of technique improvements and not just strength...hmm?
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I have gone from fucking 10s to fucking 1s and 2s because of deadlifts, so don't tell me that shit dont work.
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I have gone from fucking 10s to fucking 1s and 2s because of deadlifts, so don't tell me that shit dont work.
:D ??? :D ???
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The deadlift is about as good as it gets, not to mention variations like stiff legs and snatch grips. If you cant transition the strengthening of your entire posterior chain, not to mention your core and grip strength into other aspects or exercises that says more about your inefficiency as lifter more so than anything.
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:D ??? :D ???
Traps bulge up to my ears and back is too freakish to land a woman with any type of class 8)
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The deadlift is about as good as it gets, not to mention variations like stiff legs and snatch grips. If you cant transition the strengthening of your entire posterior chain, not to mention your core and grip strength into other aspects or exercises that says more about your inefficiency as lifter more so than anything.
You sound massive!!!
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I have gone from fucking 10s to fucking 1s and 2s because of deadlifts, so don't tell me that shit dont work.
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You sound massive!!!
A lot of Getbiggers have lots of massive words. Their words are huge!
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Deadlifts are phenomenal.. but like squats I think there is a significant percentage of the population that cannot do them or the risk of doing them outweighs the benefits.
Personally.. all lower back issues disappear for me when I am doing them regularly, and it has always been my strongest compound movement. If you don't enjoy them, just fuck off and do something else... same as any other exercise.
best answer in thread!!!! Agree 100%
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A lot of Getbiggers have lots of massive words. Their words are huge!
Yes aj!!! I can only begin to imagine how huge their words would be if they decided to dabble in some prosehormones!!!!
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Yes aj!!! I can only begin to imagine how huge their words would be if they decided to dabble in some prosehormones!!!!
Well played, sir!
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deadlift is my fav exercise, i don't care if it help or not for other exercise, but heavy deadlift give me the confidence that i can tear apart everybody in a street fight.
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deadlift is my fav exercise, i don't care if it help or not for other exercise, but heavy deadlift give me the confidence that i can tear apart everybody in a street fight.
Please take me from point A ("deadlift') to point B ("tearing apart everybody in a street fight"). Are there magic Miyagi moves to be found in the ritualistic lift-up! put-down! movement?
I am pretty sure that being good at the DL translates into exactly one thing: being good at the DL.
Sometimes I do them, sometimes I don't. They hold no magic pull on me (see what I did there?)
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Yes aj!!! I can only begin to imagine how huge their words would be if they decided to dabble in some prosehormones!!!!
Junior tried that, but grabbed the nosehormones by accident.
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DL is dumb you can have great form but then back will tweak
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Please take me from point A ("deadlift') to point B ("tearing apart everybody in a street fight"). Are there magic Miyagi moves to be found in the ritualistic lift-up! put-down! movement?
I am pretty sure that being good at the DL translates into exactly one thing: being good at the DL.
Sometimes I do them, sometimes I don't. They hold no magic pull on me (see what I did there?)
He only fights dead drunk bums lying on the pavement. He then proceeds to lift them and toss them around.
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it will not get you laid easier
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Junior tried that, but grabbed the nosehormones by accident.
Hahaha ;D
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He only fights dead drunk bums lying on the pavement. He then proceeds to lift them and toss them around.
I believe that's the "clean and press" training, not the DL.
The DL allows him to lift them to his knees and then drop them. Devastating.
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I believe that's the "clean and press" training, not the DL.
The DL allows him to lift them to his knees and then drop them. Devastating.
I stand corrected.
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Lol you're still jealous at your age ?
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I loved the deadlift.
I had triple hernia surgery 6 months ago so I guess I'll never deadlift again.
I am fine with it.
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Lol you're still jealous at your age ?
Uh, I'm only 20.
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Did you love it because it gave you great results or was it just gratifying to see how much weight you could lift. It is an ego booster for me. Once you get to four plates and beyond, people start to take notice of how much you are pulling. Still doubtful about its benefits.
Hope you continue to heal, bro.
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The deadlift is about as good as it gets, not to mention variations like stiff legs and snatch grips. If you cant transition the strengthening of your entire posterior chain, not to mention your core and grip strength into other aspects or exercises that says more about your inefficiency as lifter more so than anything.
Does it? Why would I need lifting "efficiency" to notice a positive effect? If anyone does bicep curls every day, they are gonna get bigger, stronger arms. There's no way they will not notice strength and musculature gains. Why are deadlift gains a secret?
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Does it? Why would I need lifting "efficiency" to notice a positive effect? If anyone does bicep curls every day, they are gonna get bigger, stronger arms. There's no way they will not notice strength and musculature gains. Why are deadlift gains a secret?
You sound like the kind of guy that wears pee pads.
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You sound like the kind of guy that wears pee pads.
I don't even know what this means. I'm sure it's clever, though.m ::)
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I loved the deadlift.
I had triple hernia surgery 6 months ago so I guess I'll never deadlift again.
I am fine with it.
I had double hernia surgery and do not deadlift any more. Oh well.
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Never take training advice from VinceB.
You sound like the kind of guy that wears pee pads.
This is what I mean, chaos. This is all you contribute to the board.
Just the rolling eyes emoticon ::) and little insulting pot shots.
Yeah, it's GetBig and all good and fun but is that all you got FFS?
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Sometime i'm perplex with yankee. Maybe it's because of chem in the food, or too much tv, or the difficulty to find cultural stuff in usa.
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This is what I mean, chaos. This is all you contribute to the board.
Just the rolling eyes emoticon ::) and little insulting pot shots.
Yeah, it's GetBig and all good and fun but is that all you got FFS?
Chaos defines getbig in a nutshell
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I think everyone should know how to properly pick something heavy off the ground
Kids should know how to deadlift
If we're gonna get paleo about it, that heavy something would probably be a rock. A deep squat would be the more appropriate movement for this task.
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I think everyone should know how to properly pick something heavy off the ground
Kids should know how to deadlift
I learned how to operate a forklift at an early age.
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Chaos defines getbig in a nutshell
Compliments like this will get you nowhere with me.
But thank you anyway. :)
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I like deadlifts but at 40 I do much lighter weight for higher reps. It's a good full body exercise.
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SLDL is one of the very best exercises imho.
Not a fan of the regular DL.
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If we're gonna get paleo about it, that heavy something would probably be a rock. A deep squat would be the more appropriate movement for this task.
I prefer to deadlift boulders myself
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Vince, why will you not answer my PM's? You know, the PM I sent you where I described wanting to gently caress and kiss your hairy belly. Get back to me with an answer.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=146902.0;attach=163489;image)
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Any news & images :P
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Vince, why will you not answer my PM's? You know, the PM I sent you where I described wanting to gently caress and kiss your hairy belly. Get back to me with an answer.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=146902.0;attach=163489;image)
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Top photo is massively photoshoped, just look his face & baldness ::)