Deadlift: Over-rated?

[Leatherneck]

My best results have always come when I have deadlifts in my routine.

[Coach is Back!]

why do you say that?

Ignore him. He's a gimmick. I shouldn't have responded to the clown.

[ritch]

Ignore him. He's a gimmick. I shouldn't have responded to the clown.

I know, lol, was trying to see how others would defend the movement or not... Always a fun debate.

I would however fear an opponent who could pick up 5-600lbs from the floor than one who couldn't...

[NaturalWonder83]

I think everyone should know how to properly pick something heavy off the ground
Kids should know how to deadlift

[ritch]

I think everyone should know how to properly pick something heavy off the ground
Kids should know how to deadlift

as you may have seen or noticed, babies pick up stuff with perfect form, we're born knowing this but our lifestyle fucks it up.

[Al Doggity]

The only people who don't deadlift are
1.) People with back problems
2.) People who like to complain

This is the kind of conventional wisdom that has me  still doing them even though I don't think they're for shit.

Consistent deadlifting is not indicative of a good physique the way consistent benching or curls are.

[chaos]

as you may have seen or noticed, babies pick up stuff with perfect form, we're born knowing this but our lifestyle fucks it up.

Same with squatting.

[NaturalWonder83]

as you may have seen or noticed, babies pick up stuff with perfect form, we're born knowing this but our lifestyle fucks it up.

agreed

[NaturalWonder83]

Same with squatting.

most kids can do a perfect pistol squat

[ritch]

Same with squatting.

yup, text book. I think we're gonna see more "trainers" specializing in early infant development, simple things like posturology to make sure the base is stable, even and so on...

[Vince B]

The only people who don't deadlift are
1.) People with back problems
2.) People who like to complain

3.) People who have torn a biceps doing heavy deadlifts.

Bodybuilding is like a religion. It amazes me what people believe and do in the gym. Heavy deadlifting is a dangerous exercise, period.
So are bench presses, arm wrestling, upright rows, hack squats, heavy pullovers, various triceps exercises with barbells, and so on.

Bodybuilders will still do deadlifts no matter what the evidence is. I call that being dense.

[Henda]

As has been mentioned it is great for keeping the back pain free. This alone makes them worth their weight in gold for me as back feels like shit without them.
I think they are overrated as a total back builder, but are great for building the lower back and traps.

[Vince B]

As has been mentioned it is great for keeping the back pain free. This alone makes them worth their weight in gold for me as back feels like shit without them.
I think they are overrated as a total back builder, but are great for building the lower back and traps.

Totally unbelieveable statement. Deadlifting will lead to back pain....sooner or later.

[Coach is Back!]

Totally unbelieveable statement. Deadlifting will lead to back pain....sooner or later.

And that's the biggest bunch of bullshit you've stated on here to date that's training related. Bass generator is dead on. If you have back problems as a result of deads, you have NO clue about training. And this is an absolute FACT!!

[Vince B]

And that's the biggest bunch of bullshit you've stated on here to date that's training related. Bass generator is dead on. If you have back problems as a result of deads, you have NO clue about training. And this is an absolute FACT!!

What a bunch of ignorant dorks here. Most bodybuilders are plainly quite stupid. What a shame that is.

[Coach is Back!]

What a bunch of ignorant dorks here. Most bodybuilders are plainly quite stupid. What a shame that is.

Back up your statement. What you're basically saying is that any bent over variation will hurt your back. Really Vince? Is that what you're saying?

Btw Vince, I'm a strength coach before I'm a bodybuilder. Think about that.

[SF1900]

What a bunch of ignorant dorks here. Most bodybuilders are plainly quite stupid. What a shame that is.

Vince, why will you not answer my PM's? You know, the PM I sent you where I described wanting to gently caress and kiss your hairy belly. Get back to me with an answer.

[pellius]

I don't think you need to do dead lifts to become a successful bodybuilder. I think Levrone claimed never to do them.


But, whether you are a bodybuilder or not, one of the reasons one should do weight lifting is to improve functional ability. Dead lifts are probably the most real life exercise you can do. Picking things up off the ground is something you do regularly. Might as well improve your ability to do that.

I personally don't like dead lifts and I believe you can develop you legs, hams and lower back with other, easier, lifts. But I've been doing them regularly for decades.

[pellius]

3.) People who have torn a biceps doing heavy deadlifts.

Bodybuilding is like a religion. It amazes me what people believe and do in the gym. Heavy deadlifting is a dangerous exercise, period.
So are bench presses, arm wrestling, upright rows, hack squats, heavy pullovers, various triceps exercises with barbells, and so on.

Bodybuilders will still do deadlifts no matter what the evidence is. I call that being dense.

Exceeding the tensile strength of a muscle causing a tear can happen with any exercise. It's more common with the dead lift because of the amount of weight you can move.

And all exercises can be dangerous and cause injury if done improperly.

[tommywishbone]

Every single winning NPC and IFBB bodybuilder I know, and I know hundreds- has incorporated deadlifts at some point in their career.

Perhaps early in their training to build a base and power. Perhaps with  light/moderate weight close to contest time to bring out detail, refinement and "tie-ins".  

Learn your technique and you will never get hurt deadlifting.

[chaos]

Never take training advice from VinceB.

[ritch]

I don't think you need to do dead lifts to become a successful bodybuilder. I think Levrone claimed never to do them.


But, whether you are a bodybuilder or not, one of the reasons one should do weight lifting is to improve functional ability. Dead lifts are probably the most real life exercise you can do. Picking things up off the ground is something you do regularly. Might as well improve your ability to do that.

I personally don't like dead lifts and I believe you can develop you legs, hams and lower back with other, easier, lifts. But I've been doing them regularly for decades.

His body would have needed them, he lacked thickness in his back and legs.

[SF1900]

What a bunch of ignorant dorks here. Most bodybuilders are plainly quite stupid. What a shame that is.

[Henda]

Totally unbelieveable statement. Deadlifting will lead to back pain....sooner or later.

No it won't you fat old bastard

[Coach is Back!]

Exceeding the tensile strength of a muscle causing a tear can happen with any exercise. It's more common with the dead lift because of the amount of weight you can move.

And all exercises can be dangerous and cause injury if done improperly.

Tensile strength is usually related to tendons. If there is a tear from deads it's usually the bicep tendon. In most cases if you're tearing either bicep muscle or its tendon, something is missing in your training. Vince is too stupid to realize this.