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Matt Kroczaleski, most famous on this site for Kroc Rows, and being a Muscletech guy, comes out as transsexual. Here's his official statement -
"First, yes this is really me and yes I am transgender. Second, one does not "become" transgender you are or you aren't. I have known this since I was five years old and it has been a very heavy burden to carry. I never asked for nor did I want this. For most of my life I would have given anything to not feel the way I do and at one point it drove me to consider suicide. Now I am perfectly comfortable with who I am and have been very open about this for many years. I told Wendler and Dave Tate at Elitefts when I first signed on and they were and still are very supportive of me as are nearly all of my close friends which comprise the majority of the top lifters in the sport. Ed Coan even recently reached out to me to offer his support.
At this point I do live my life in both genders but I am still undecided about whether or not to fully transition to living as a female full time. It would solve many of the most difficult issues I have struggled with but would also be a huge sacrifice as I would have to give up much of what I have worked so hard for. I also have three amazing sons that fully support whatever decision I make but I feel that I need to be there for them as I am at least until they're adults even if it means a great deal of sacrifice for myself.
One thing that I am 100% certain of is that if I do eventually decide to transition I would never compete in powerlifting again. I feel that would be a no-win situation and I would never want to do anything that would reflect negatively on the transgender or powerlifting communities.
If you have respectful questions ask away. I am an open book. ".
More here - http://www.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=1437706867.59048&user=tfannon .
(http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/02072011-profile-story.jpg).
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About 5/6 years ago a friend of mine, who knew Matt from another relationship, asked if I knew him. I didn't but he informed me of who he was. Long story short he told me he was a transgender and had a separate Facebook page of him dressed as a woman (Idk if it was really his fb account but there were pics of him in drag).
Interesting stuff.
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About 5/6 years ago a friend of mine, who knew Matt from another relationship, asked if I knew him. I didn't but he informed me of who he was. Long story short he told me he was a transgender and had a separate Facebook page of him dressed as a woman (Idk if it was really his fb account but there were pics of him in drag).
Interesting stuff.
Sure, I actually remember that. It was a schmoe that once had an account here (and a few other boards) that outed him years ago, but it faded away soon after. Despite the click bait title, I applaud him for actually coming out, he seems to be coming from a thoughtful place.
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I knew that I was right for not doing those stupid "kroc rows"
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Sure, I actually remember that. It was a schmoe that once had an account here (and a few other boards) that outed him years ago, but it faded away soon after. Despite the click bait title, I applaud him for actually coming out, he seems to be coming from a thoughtful place.
What I thought was more interesting is that he is a pharmacist.
I thought at the time I was talking about, that he lived in Midland Michigan, which was home to several record breaking power lifters. It's a fairly small community. That being said I was curious if he was making his own supplements and supplying others in the area.
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You guys are fuckin shittin me ?!?!?!?! Got a source ? Pics ? Can't give away too much info ( for obvious reasons ), but I've hung out with Matt a number of times. INCREDIBLY nice guy.
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This is a bullshit story.
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You guys are fuckin shittin me ?!?!?!?! Got a source ? Pics ? Can't give away too much info ( for obvious reasons ), but I've hung out with Matt a number of times. INCREDIBLY nice guy.
Here's her instagram, if you look at some of the likes, they're sometimes from other powerlifters from the whole Elitefts stable -
http://instagram.com/janaemariekroc/ .
Here's a direct link to the post, that board is pretty tight about making sure posters are legit, if they post about stuff like this -
http://www.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=1437758197.41238&user=tfannon .
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Here's her instagram, if you look at some of the likes, they're sometimes from other powerlifters from the whole Elitefts stable -
http://instagram.com/janaemariekroc/ .
Here's a direct link to the post, that board is pretty tight about making sure posters are legit, if they post about stuff like this -
http://www.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=1437758197.41238&user=tfannon .
Wow ...
just read it. Definitely seems true and not a bs story. Not sure what to say. Shocked really.
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Im calling bullshit. This has to be some elaborate hoax by Tate and Wendler
http://www.mattkroc.com/about-matt-kroc/
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Im calling bullshit. This has to be some elaborate hoax by Tate and Wendler
http://www.mattkroc.com/about-matt-kroc/
I hope you're right, Coach. But it'd be a pretty shitty hoax to drag ones kids into it. Kids are generally off-limits.
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Click the first picture on that instagram link, Matt shows up answering questions under his official Matt Kroc name -
http://instagram.com/p/4xPnXEFZUd/ .
Just scroll through the comments. It's him.
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He just wants an ESPN award.
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My god this truly is a F'ed up world!
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If it's true, he came out as being transgender and not transsexual. These are two very different things. http://www.medicaldaily.com/what-difference-between-transsexual-and-transgender-facebooks-new-version-its-complicated-271389 (http://www.medicaldaily.com/what-difference-between-transsexual-and-transgender-facebooks-new-version-its-complicated-271389)
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If it's true, he came out as being transgender and not transsexual. These are two very different things. http://www.medicaldaily.com/what-difference-between-transsexual-and-transgender-facebooks-new-version-its-complicated-271389 (http://www.medicaldaily.com/what-difference-between-transsexual-and-transgender-facebooks-new-version-its-complicated-271389)
What are you wating to come out?
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I just can't deal with this shit no more. Jesus christ. What in the holy hell ?!?!
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What are you wating to come out?
What does "wating" mean?
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WTF ??
just checked the calendar and it's not April 1rst
I don't believe it
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Damn, he makes a kinda good looking woman, minus the 20" arms.
Fuck, I am going to hell now.
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This is so fucked up. Feels like a women but juices and is a world class power lifter? Poor guy head is all
Fucked up
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This is so fucked up. Feels like a women but juices and is a world class power lifter? Poor guy head is all
Fucked up
Kinda like a "reverse tranny" or something like that.
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Damn, he makes a kinda good looking woman, minus the 20" arms.
Fuck, I am going to hell now.
He kinda looks like one of those hot middle age goth latin chicks that go to Morrissey concerts.
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This is so fucked up. Feels like a women but juices and is a world class power lifter? Poor guy head is all
Fucked up
may have started training and juicing to feel as masculine possible, might have tried to suppress natural instincts?
i find it hard to believe, but damn those instagram pics and he even posted replies using his real account.
speechless tbh, but if he was gonna go public wouldn't he have made the announcement via his social media or website and not by a post on a largely unheard of board?
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It can be a joke. Having fun with gay and hebrew is morally prohibited.
So it"s true, our world is falling apart.
Plus it will be a supreme humiliation for iron sport.
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Most likely a photoshop by NASA - too many getbiggers getting their hopes up for a steamy "push pull" session.
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So it"s true, our world is falling apart.
Plus it will be a supreme humiliation for iron sport.
THIS × 10000000
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More wise words from the one & only Arthur Jones >
It has been firmly established that when the population of any type of animal exceeds a certain point, when the “density”
of the population of animals within a given amount of land becomes too crowned, the animals seem to go insane, start
doing things that are obviously counterproductive, even dangerous for the survival of the herd. In my opinion, that
state of affairs now exists among people; I can think of no other possible explanation for many of today’s widespread
activities, the drugs, the violence, the crime, the destruction of the cities and the schools. None of which offer much
hope for the survival of mankind in the long run; any of which, continued much beyond the current state of affairs, will
eventually destroy civilization, has already destroyed a large part of it.
http://arthurjonesexercise.com/First_Half/22.PDF
Rejection of this "love everybody" BS is the root of what AJ is talking about ^. There are rigid male & female gender roles. Since the lines are being blurred destruction of civilization isn't too far away.
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Oh fuckshit.com
https://instagram.com/p/qM_pEzlZX2/
MENTAL FUCKING ILLNESS.
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Oh fuckshit.com
https://instagram.com/p/qM_pEzlZX2/
MENTAL FUCKING ILLNESS.
That honestly makes me sad, sort of wishing I didn't post the instagram link.
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Oh fuckshit.com
https://instagram.com/p/qM_pEzlZX2/
MENTAL FUCKING ILLNESS.
:/ :/
Hate to keep posting on this ... just shocked. Never even knew this side existed. He's, in real life, a pretty normal dude. Very masculine. Wow.
And that link you posted just breaks my heart. Wow.
What a crazy world we live in.
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I wonder if all the gear played a part in this, hormone issues etc etc
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This is a bullshit story.
Afraid not, 'coach'. Your boring old lifestyle is no longer relevant. You've been left behind.
hth
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Bay likey Matt.
Bay no likey Matilda.
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Bay likey Matt.
Bay no likey Matilda.
And your routine, Mary, is getting very old and tired as well.
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Dude is fucked in the head from all of the hormones. There's a reason the body only makes what it is supposed to.
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May be the strongest female (?) ever.
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That honestly makes me sad, sort of wishing I didn't post the instagram link.
"My best asset" lol
https://instagram.com/p/zCogkHFZTo/
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It can be a joke. Having fun with gay and hebrew is morally prohibited.
Can it be a joke?
https://instagram.com/p/oGluJdFZZe/
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"My best asset" lol
https://instagram.com/p/zCogkHFZTo/
Great comments.
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I'm still having a hard time believing this is him... I mean really??
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This is so fucked up. Feels like a women but juices and is a world class power lifter? Poor guy head is all
Fucked up
Kinda like yours, where you inject copious amounts of steroids, hang a handicapped placard off your rearview and pretend to be disabled while competing in Bodybuilding shows.
At least your Nelson Mandela tattoo fits perfectly with your conduct.
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Afraid not, 'coach'. Your boring old lifestyle is no longer relevant. You've been left behind.
hth
Why, because being gay or/and transgendered like yourself and coming out of the closet and degrading the White House with a rainbow light show is the new TREND? You're a troll.
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Kinda like yours, where you inject copious amounts of steroids, hang a handicapped placard off your rearview and pretend to be disabled while competing in Bodybuilding shows.
At least your Nelson Mandela tattoo fits perfectly with your conduct.
Who do you think does more gear. You or mike?
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Who do you think does more gear. You or mike?
I am not a small brained dumbass like you and Mike so therefore I do not need such things. Dumb fucking midget.
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I am not a small brained dumbass like you and Mike so therefore I do not need such things. Dumb fucking midget.
Bullshit. Prove it.
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WTF!? :o
What the fuck is wrong with these guys? Mental fucking illness x 10000.
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and now matt kroc is a fag.
if you mean gay, no he is not, but she says she's lesbian. That is not uncommon. Most, but not all, transgender females are still attracted to women.
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if you mean gay, no he is not, but she says she's lesbian. That is not uncommon. Most, but not all, transgendered females are still attracted to women.
Sooo ... Matt associates with being a woman ... but still likes women ??
Honestly, I can't imagine a lot of women ( lesbians even ) who are gonna wanna hook up with a big ass dude in drag. Just sayin. I mean, the whole thing is just mind numbing as well as boggling.
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Disgusting, the blokes a disgrace and all his accomplishments mean jack shit now.
Repulsive
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if you mean gay, no he is not, but she says she's lesbian. That is not uncommon. Most, but not all, transgendered females are still attracted to women.
I don't get it. I can kinda understand why a gay dude might feel like he's trapped in the wrong gender. After all, he's attracted to men so he might feel more feminine because of that.
But why the fuck would a heterosexual male wish to become a lesbian woman? Especially a man like Matt who did everything to make himself look as masculine as possible? :-\
Fucked up world. Matt doesn't need praise, he needs mental help.
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Why not? It's a golden ticket to a prized victim group. In one swoop, he goes from hetero white male -- the last non-victim group and the only group that it's legal to discriminate against -- to probably the most protected victim group. This will open so many doors for him. He's now a "hero" and a "spokesperson for transgendered". He's "breaking normative stereotypes"
Did I mention how heroic he obviously is?
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I don't get it. I can kinda understand why a gay dude might feel like he's trapped in the wrong gender. After all, he's attracted to men so he might feel more feminine because of that.
But why the fuck would a heterosexual male wish to become a lesbian woman? Especially a man like Matt who did everything to make himself look as masculine as possible? :-\
Fucked up world. Matt doesn't need praise, he needs mental help.
Yeah, I'm just as confused. As I've said before, I know Matt ( obviously not as much as I previously thought lol ). Great guy ! Awesome father ! Am just really wondering if he had some sort of mental breakdown ?
In one of his posts he claims to have felt this way since age 5 ... sooo why grow up, join the Marine Corp, have 3 kids, take gear, become a WORLD CLASS powerlifter, etc., etc. Why not skip all that shit, save yourself some trouble, and become a female from the get go ?
I mean, holy hell, fellas !!
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Yeah, I'm just as confused. As I've said before, I know Matt ( obviously not as much as I previously thought lol ). Great guy ! Awesome father ! Am just really wondering if he had some sort of mental breakdown ?
In one of his posts he claims to have felt this way since age 5 ... sooo why grow up, join the Marine Corp, have 3 kids, take gear, become a WORLD CLASS powerlifter, etc., etc. Why not skip all that shit, save yourself some trouble, and become a female from the get go ?
I mean, holy hell, fellas !!
id be willing to bet he did all that to convince himself that he wasn't transgender, you can't get any more fucking alpha than an ex marine, beast of a powerlifter turned bodybuilder. taking grams of androgens, big fan of tren he was apparently.
probably learned later that he couldn't suppress it regardless of how masculine he became.
its disturbing as hell, i hope he gets help for this because this sure as hell can't be good for him.
is it even considered a mental disease though? i think transgender people are accepted as normal in parts of today's society, about as far from normal as you can fucking get!
don't think there's a treatment for this, not like they can up his test levels which are through the roof anyway!
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Why, because being gay or/and transgendered like yourself and coming out of the closet and degrading the White House with a rainbow light show is the new TREND? You're a troll.
No "trend" here short man. Your America is a thing of the past. And like an angry racist white cop you're melting down, realizing that you are now irrelevant, marginalized and politically impotent. Your caucasian leaders have sold you out to the Black Man, and you're finished.
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This is so fucked up. Feels like a women but juices and is a world class power lifter? Poor guy head is all
Fucked up
That's the really strange thing. Do they pick up "super-manly" activities like Powerlifting to fight it or overcompensate it?
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Guys this is fine, even arnold dressed in drag for junior. The king did it so it's all good
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Disgusting, the blokes a disgrace and all his accomplishments mean jack shit now.
Repulsive
x2. Abhorrent.
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id be willing to bet he did all that to convince himself that he wasn't transgender, you can't get any more fucking alpha than an ex marine, beast of a powerlifter turned bodybuilder. taking grams of androgens, big fan of tren he was apparently.
probably learned later that he couldn't suppress it regardless of how masculine he became.
its disturbing as hell, i hope he gets help for this because this sure as hell can't be good for him.
is it even considered a mental disease though? i think transgender people are accepted as normal in parts of today's society, about as far from normal as you can fucking get!
don't think there's a treatment for this, not like they can up his test levels which are through the roof anyway!
Good points.
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Miss Olympia 2016.
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No "trend" here short man. Your America is a thing of the past. And like an angry racist white cop you're melting down, realizing that you are now irrelevant, marginalized and politically impotent. Your caucasian leaders have sold you out to the Black Man, and you're finished.
You know, your posts lead me to believe you are a part ofthe gay/trans community. So to some extent you probably consider yourself open minded. Yet clearly you are filled with so much of the dogma, hate and prejudiced that you accuse others of having.
And still so many of your posts mock the gay community for all the reasons that someone like Coach may want to distance himself from that community. As the author of the TOM PLATZ WIG or the other yarn about the mailman, you have a deep understanding of the dysfunctions of the gay/trans community (all groups have them) yet you lash out personally at anyone who who points out the very same traits you mock in your own posts about your own community... The phrase 'self loathing' comes to mind here.
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the confederate flag banned, gun control, immigration, and now matt kroc is a fag.
Haha, this made my day :D
Matt Kroc, born with a dick, not intending to get rid of said dick, and is attracted to women.
In what sense is he really a transgender? He's more of a crossdresser really.
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He's answering questions on the other board, since that one is kinda shitty in lay out, I'll transcribe a few of the answers here -
On sexuality -
"First, let me explain that there is a big difference between gender identity and sexuality. Sexuality is who you are attracted to and gender identity is what gender you know yourself to be and one is not necessarily connected to the other. I have always been strongly attracted to beautiful women and I am have no attraction toward men at all but that being said the things I find erotic aren't typical of most "straight" men.
What most people don't realize is that for many people our sexuality and even our identities exist on more of a spectrum of varying degrees rather than a simple either or. Also all of us posses both masculinity and femininity but it's only when your natural tendencies vary outside accepted societal norms that it becomes an issue.
As far as who I would date if I do decide to transition goes I honestly don't know. Like I said I have always been attracted to women and I have zero interest in dating men as a man but I can't rule out the possibility of having different feelings as a woman. It is far too complicated to explain here but I can't deny that it is a possibility and I will only know if I follow that path and I'll find out when/if I get there. I have had to learn that if I was going to figure this stuff out then I had to be 100% honest with myself and let go of any preconceived ideas of what should or shouldn't be and rather focus on what actually is and even then in a complex person like myself the answers still aren't always clear.
In regard to transition if I decide to pursue it I will fully transition, have surgery and follow through with everything including hormones and other procedures to bring my body in line with my identity. I would also drop about 100lbs of muscle and want an athletic but much more feminine body. ".
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On Powerlifting, drugs, and transitioning -
"Thank you for your well wishes I appreciate it. I can also understand your confusion since you have other transgender friends as of course do I, so please let me explain.
Using gear was further attempting to be the person I wanted to be and to deny who I was. A part of me hoped it would help me feel differently but of course it made no difference whatsoever. Trust me that it was very traumatic for me in many ways. I hated the androgenic effects and had very conflicting emotions with it. It was something I agonized over and put off for a long time. That being said I won't deny that I found competing in powerlifting very fulfilling and was willing to make sacrifices to achieve my goals. Remember there are many genetic women in sports that are perfectly happy with who they are but make the same choices I did for the same reasons. ".
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More on that topic -
"You guys are somewhat right but it is incredibly complicated and something I have been trying to figure out myself for the last ten years. A big part of it is that even at 5 years old I knew that if I told people (my parents mostly) how I felt it wouldn't be received well. Plus I was taught from a young age what a "man" was supposed to be and tried very hard to live up that. Add in the fact that I grew up in a small rural town with very close minded views on what you're supposed to be and I learned very early on to hate myself for feeling the way I did.
I struggled with tons of shame and guilt for my feelings and fought against them as hard as I could. The worst part was that I was terrified of what would happen if anyone ever found out how I felt, so I struggled through everything alone. This was of course before the internet so I didn't even know what to call how I felt or that anyone else in the world felt the same way. I felt like a freak, broken, alone, and unlovable and these are still things I sometimes struggle with even now.
Why get into lifting? Even though I had these constant desires to be female I was also always fascinated with strength. I was naturally very small and skinny and got bullied some when I was jr high. I felt vulnerable and afraid and hated it. Lifting was a way to take control and feel safe. Plus I harbored feelings of being less than everyone else because I was different so I was constantly trying to win at everything I did so I wouldn't feel like less. I reasoned that if I could beat people at their own game they would be unable to look down on me. I was also naturally athletic and competitive so sports and lifting became my passion and my source of strength.
I did feel at odds with how my body changed and how I looked but it made my life so much easier and I always enjoyed winning. Plus it became a security blanket that I feared to let go of. Add in a natural tendency to want to please everyone else more than myself and you can see how I pursued powerlifting as a passion. I do love lifting, competing, and always will but it has put me at odds with who I am on the inside. It has become the self I have created to survive competing with the self that I really am. And to be honest at this point in my life both aspects of my personality have value to me. ".
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" First, I do not by any means consider myself a hero. To me that word is reserved for people that risk their lives to save others. But this is not something I have ever wanted people to know and I have never pushed this in anyone's face. I only told my close family and friends but word got out and if people asked me I was honest about it.
The entire reason this got out in the powerlifting community is because a long time ago someone tried to out me after unsuccessfully trying to get me to do something that I wasn't comfortable with. They posted all over forums, called my hometown newspaper, gossip websites, you name it. I didn't comment on any of it and just let it blow over.
And I didn't start this thread or know about it until a friend of mine informed me of it. The only reason I commented was to dispel inaccurate rumors and because I feel a responsibility to be honest to help educate misinformed people so that it's better for everyone. Trust me I would have very much preferred to live my life in anonymity but that is no longer an option. " .
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Good find, BB. Matt is a class act. I wish him well.
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Yeah, I'm just as confused. As I've said before, I know Matt ( obviously not as much as I previously thought lol ). Great guy ! Awesome father ! Am just really wondering if he had some sort of mental breakdown ?
In one of his posts he claims to have felt this way since age 5 ... sooo why grow up, join the Marine Corp, have 3 kids, take gear, become a WORLD CLASS powerlifter, etc., etc. Why not skip all that shit, save yourself some trouble, and become a female from the get go ?
I mean, holy hell, fellas !!
He comes from a hillbilly mid-Michigan family. How well do you think that talk would have went over as a 5 year old?
It's pretty clear the marines, outrageous antics (the driving a nail through his arm story..), and the powerlifting was an over compensation to try and make sure no one knew the secret he was embarrassed about
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You know, your posts lead me to believe you are a part ofthe gay/trans community. So to some extent you probably consider yourself open minded. Yet clearly you are filled with so much of the dogma, hate and prejudiced that you accuse others of having.
And still so many of your posts mock the gay community for all the reasons that someone like Coach may want to distance himself from that community. As the author of the TOM PLATZ WIG or the other yarn about the mailman, you have a deep understanding of the dysfunctions of the gay/trans community (all groups have them) yet you lash out personally at anyone who who points out the very same traits you mock in your own posts about your own community... The phrase 'self loathing' comes to mind here.
You hang on my every word like a giddy teenage girl. I have come to expect as much from your type. Your sophomoric psychological inquiry is woefully insufficient, your intellect laying naked and prostate in the glare of your own stupidity.
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hetero white male -- the last non-victim group and the only group that it's legal to discriminate against -- to probably the most protected victim group.
Please list all the ways white hetero males are discriminated against. Be sure to include all the bashings and murders white hetero males have faced because they're white hetero males.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/02/lgbt-homicides_n_6993484.html
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onestly, I can't imagine a lot of women ( lesbians even ) who are gonna wanna hook up with a big ass dude in drag.
This is a bit of a problem in the lesbian community. (Gays and lesbians are not immune to prejudices.) Lesbians are not always welcoming of transgender women. Gays seem to be a little more accepting of transgender men. But it is easier to look male by taking a boat load of testosterone, than it is to look female by suppressing testosterone.
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He's answering questions on the other board, since that one is kinda shitty in lay out, I'll transcribe a few of the answers here -
He writes intelligently and succinctly. It is good that he is not being defensive. He explains his feelings well. It is hard to imagine what it would be like to feel that you are the wrong gender in the physical sense.
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Kinda like yours, where you inject copious amounts of steroids, hang a handicapped placard off your rearview and pretend to be disabled while competing in Bodybuilding shows.
At least your Nelson Mandela tattoo fits perfectly with your conduct.
;D ;D ;D
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He comes from a hillbilly mid-Michigan family. How well do you think that talk would have went over as a 5 year old?
It's pretty clear the marines, outrageous antics (the driving a nail through his arm story..), and the powerlifting was an over compensation to try and make sure no one knew the secret he was embarrassed about
Wouldn't expect Matt to talk it over with his parents at 5 years of age. That's just silly. At least give me some credit.
100 % agree with your 2nd paragraph.
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Interesting discussion. Hes addressing many deep rooted issues and beliefs. It's interesting he has had these "feelings" or ideas (or whatever the appropriate term would be) from early childhood.
Is transgender just the tip of the iceberg with "birth identity" issues...
I'm curious if someone could be trans-racial/trans-species?
I'm not trolling I'm just interested what the whole spectrum of these issues would be.
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Please list all the ways white hetero males are discriminated against. Be sure to include all the bashings and murders white hetero males have faced because they're white hetero males.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/02/lgbt-homicides_n_6993484.html
http://www.amazon.com/White-Girl-Bleed-Lot-Violence/dp/1938067061
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This is a bit of a problem in the lesbian community. (Gays and lesbians are not immune to prejudices.) Lesbians are not always welcoming of transgendered women. Gays seem to be a little more accepting of transgendered men. But it is easier to look male by taking a boat load of testosterone, than it is to look female by suppressing testosterone.
Good post. See where you're comin from.
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Is transgender just the tip of the iceberg with "birth identity" issues...
I'm curious if someone could be trans-racial/trans-species?
All zygotes start out the same. Then later on various hormones start differentiating between male and female. It is obvious how hormones affect the genitalia, but we also know that sometimes genitalia misform. Sometimes the genitalia does not match the chromosomes. Hormones also have an effect on the developing brain. Brains get wired in different ways. We're only starting to understand the role these hormones have on various traits.
Let's look at three traits: gender identify, sexual orientation, and masculine vs effeminate. It seems that none of these are binary, yes/no or 0/1, that they each can be a spectrum. You can be mostly gay or mostly straight, or something in between. You can feel very much like a girl or a boy or something in between. And you can be hyper masculine or quite effeminate or something in between.
And that the three can be completely unrelated to each other. There are effeminate straight guys, and butch straight girls. As well as masculine gays and feminine lesbians.
Now to your question of race and species. Race is a social construct. The definition of race has changed over the years. Not that long ago southern Europeans were considered a different race than northern Europeans. There are no biological differences between the races. There are different cultures, and you may find yourself relating more to a culture you were not raised in, but culture is not genetic or hormonal.
As far as trans-species, I suppose it is possible for some long abandoned genes to pop up. I certainly have met people who seem to be a bit Neanderthal
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^ Tim, in this case do you think this is more a psychological issue rather than one of hormone/chemical imbalances?
Matt would have massively elevated androgen levels, functional and not worrying estrogen/progesterone levels for a male.
i always thought that hormone/chemical imbalances would take a lion-share of the blame but he wouldn't have this problem?
even as a kid he gravitated toward sports and competing, suggesting decent androgen balance.
but thats a good point though about hormones differentiating during formation, i never even thought about that, fucking interesting way to look at it.
complicated and doubt there will be anything close to a conclusive answer, whatever the case is i do hope he can find happiness in the path he chooses.
dude is genuinely one of the nicest people around.
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World's strongest tranny ;D
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^ Tim, in this case do you think this is more a psychological issue rather than one of hormone/chemical imbalances?
Matt would have massively elevated androgen levels, functional and not worrying estrogen/progesterone levels for a male.
i always thought that hormone/chemical imbalances would take a lion-share of the blame but he wouldn't have this problem?
even as a kid he gravitated toward sports and competing, suggesting decent androgen balance.
but thats a good point though about hormones differentiating during formation, i never even thought about that, fucking interesting way to look at it.
complicated and doubt there will be anything close to a conclusive answer, whatever the case is i do hope he can find happiness in the path he chooses.
dude is genuinely one of the nicest people around.
When does a child realize "I am" ? Assuming you're cis-male, when you realized "I am" there was no conflict with that and what people around you were saying "You are". But for many kids there is a conflict. What did "I am a boy" mean to you? It seems that brains are "wired" to think certain ways. And that hormones before birth play a big role
Most transgender people will say they knew at a very young age. Most gays and lesbians will say they knew at a very young age. I knew I was gay at age 7, although I didn't know there was a word for it until much later. Long ago they tried "treating" homosexuality with anabolic steroids. But a trip to any gay circuit party would lead some to believe that steroids cause homosexuality. (But correlation does not mean causation!)
Matt says he knew at a very young age, and that he got into weightlifting to help suppress these feelings. That's probably rather common.
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Here's her instagram, if you look at some of the likes, they're sometimes from other powerlifters from the whole Elitefts stable -
http://instagram.com/janaemariekroc/ .
Here's a direct link to the post, that board is pretty tight about making sure posters are legit, if they post about stuff like this -
http://www.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=1437758197.41238&user=tfannon .
there's nowt queerer than folk.
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World's strongest tranny ;D
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Texs busting out the turbo 400 lol
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Texs busting out the turbo 400 lol
8)
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too much tren?
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Race is a social construct.
There are no biological differences between the races.
How come certain races respond differently to certain medication? How come some races are more predisposed to certain illnesses? How do you explain the racial factor in sports where certain races dominate, due to often researched and verified genetic differences?
Seems to me this whole "there are no races" thing is a political statement. It's also aimed at whites only from what I've seen. No one is trying to make blacks believe they are the same as whites. The statement is trying to make the point that whites can't be better than say blacks at anything.
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0:15 = BOOM MUTHAFUCKA!
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How come certain races respond differently to certain medication? How come some races are more predisposed to certain illnesses? How do you explain the racial factor in sports where certain races dominate, due to often researched and verified genetic differences?
Seems to me this whole "there are no races" thing is a political statement. It's also aimed at whites only from what I've seen. No one is trying to make blacks believe they are the same as whites. The statement is trying to make the point that whites can't be better than say blacks at anything.
there are certain traits or genes or proteins that may occur more often in one population than another, but everyone of that race doe not have those genes. Not all Europeans have cystic fibrosis. Not all Africans have sickle cell disease. Not all Ashkenazi Jews have Tay-Sachs. That some mutation occurs in a population just means that it's genetic. Someone had a faulty gene, and passed it down to all his or her descendants.
There is no gene or set of genes that all people of one race have and all people not of that race do not have. There is no single characteristic or group of characteristics that define what race you belong to. Not all blacks have dark skin. Not all whites have light skin. same with hair, nose, lips, and any other physical characteristic.
As far as a racial group dominating a sport, you need to look at the history of that sport. There was a time where Italians dominated baseball. Another time where Jews dominated baseball. Another time blacks. Now it's latinos. Turns out economics is the biggest factor in what group dominates baseball. Your family can't be struggling so much that the kids have to help get food on the table, and you cant be so well off that your parents say put down the ball, come inside and study so you can get into college.
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there are certain traits or genes or proteins that may occur more often in one population than another, but everyone of that race doe not have those genes. Not all Europeans have cystic fibrosis. Not all Africans have sickle cell disease. Not all Ashkenazi Jews have Tay-Sachs. That some mutation occurs in a population just means that it's genetic. Someone had a faulty gene, and passed it down to all his or her descendants.
There is no gene or set of genes that all people of one race have and all people not of that race do not have. There is no single characteristic or group of characteristics that define what race you belong to. Not all blacks have dark skin. Not all whites have light skin. same with hair, nose, lips, and any other physical characteristic.
Politically correct persons' hope that their labeling of race as a social construct will block any inferences made on the basis of race is unsound: chairs are social constructs -- not belonging to any science as a theoretical posit and apparently existing merely as somewhat arbitrarily gerrymandered concatenations of atoms -- yet we can still infer that being hit over the head with one will hurt.
So too with race: there aren't purely biological necessary and sufficient conditions for belonging to the class 'African American,' but we can still infer and generalize on the basis of the somewhat arbitrary set of properties that we gerrymander into our social construct, e.g., we can infer about persons born in the US with significant genetic lineage leading back to Africa with albedos between x and y that they often evince above average fried chicken loving behavior, or that they evince higher rates of diabetes.
The genetic portions of our social constructs of race allow us to make inferences and generalizations about the objects denoted by such concepts, and reliably so. Race-based statistics exist for a reason.
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Damn, he makes a kinda good looking woman, minus the 20" arms.
Fuck, I am going to hell now.
Was thinking the same :) Looks better than Caitlyn.
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This Kroc story pops up on Outlaw Powerlifting every 5 years or so... Very few credible posters there...
(Not sure if its true or not)
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This Kroc story pops up on Outlaw Powerlifting every 5 years or so... Very few credible posters there...
(Not sure if its true or not)
Dude the pictures are up.
Of course it's true.
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So at what point does his young children start counseling? Serious question here.
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Dave Mirza
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Oh boy!
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The guy is mentally ill. Not saying that people like him should be bashed on or anything, but it isn't normal, and it is a mental defect.
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The guy is mentally ill. Not saying that people like him should be bashed on or anything, but it isn't normal, and it is a mental defect.
100%
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This Kroc story pops up on Outlaw Powerlifting every 5 years or so... Very few credible posters there...
(Not sure if its true or not)
Outlaws is fine, they allow trolls, but if you post something like this they do check it out, and if it's a troll, it's gone within the day. That board is small, but it breaks tons of stories.
So at what point does his young children start counseling? Serious question here.
He mentioned that he's been honest with everyone since the beginning, and -
"They have grown up very open minded, nonjudgmental, and respect people's differences. My biggest fear was that one or more of them would feel like I do, but they are teenagers now and none of them do. I only say that not because being transgender is a bad thing but because it is an extremely difficult thing and I would never want them to have to deal with the things I have." .
I've got say just having watched his feeds over the years, the guy does seem to be a great dad in the traditional sense, minus this blip.
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I would say the odds are better than not that he attempts suicide.
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I think if someone suffers from gender identity fine, if they try and fight it, fine, i've know alot of gays and lesbians to know it's not a choice of how to feel. But don't have kids before they've decided, they should decide one way or the other before coz otherwise the kids are just gonna go through hell.
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0:15 = BOOM MUTHAFUCKA!
That actually startled me a bit, like some sort of possession/excorcist type shit.
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It is a bit unusual that none of this has made it onto his wiki page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Kroczaleski
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It is a bit unusual that none of this has made it onto his wiki page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Kroczaleski
They deleted the original threads too. I think he might of thought better of it, and decided to go back to keeping it semi private. The original threads started to get passive - aggressive with the "freak", and the "if we're ok with this, then what about xyz?" type talk.
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Dude the pictures are up.
Of course it's true.
Not that pics have ever been photoshopped or anything...
If true, thats one strong tranny 8)
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Wondering what the fallout was with Kroc and his wife...i remember he got married for the second time a few years back on his elitefts log. He was crazy about that chick or so he claimed ???
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Once he said he was an Alpha-Male *lol* What a shame! Hope not every weak minded bastard wants to become a woman from now on. :o
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Who cares. Worry about your own lives. This has absolutely no effect on your life whatsoever.
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Once he said he was an Alpha-Male *lol* What a shame! Hope not every weak minded bastard wants to become a woman from now on. :o
I don't get this thought process. It sounds like you're implying that you'd dress up like a woman too, but you're just mentally strong enough to resist the urges
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Matt just confirmed it on his FB page
This is a bullshit story.
What do you say now Coach? :D
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I think the USA needs to field an all-tranny female Olympic weightlifting team and dominate. The rest of the world and the IOC doesn't want to be "haters", do they?
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Who cares. Worry about your own lives. This has absolutely no effect on your life whatsoever.
If you've never dated Janae that is.
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Matt just confirmed it on his FB page
What do you say now Coach? :D
coach is wrong again.. no...
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I don't get this thought process. It sounds like you're implying that you'd dress up like a woman too, but you're just mentally strong enough to resist the urges
hahah damn you nailed it :P
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this came as no suprise to blaha, since kroc transitioned from powerlifter to bodybuilder, and 'bodybuilding is feminine' :D
from 1:06 if you can't be arsed watching it all.
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Matt/Janae at 21:00 in or so. Not bad, I thought her voice would be much worse -
http://live.huffingtonpost.com/r/segment/queerview-josh-boy-scouts-end-gay-ban/55b77beefe34442ade000017 .
also -
http://www.roverradio.com/watch/interviews/item/2734-transgender-champion-bodybuilder-janae-marie-kroc-full-interview .
P.S. - In case anyone is wondering, one of the Outlaw Powerlifting mods confirmed that he pulled the original thread because of the way it was going. It's since caused a little uproar on that board.
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It's already on the news!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/matt-kroczaleski-world-champion-powerlifter-6153378
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more-sports/bodybuilder-matt-kroczaleski-transgender-article-1.2309116