World's Strongest Tranny -

[The_Iron_Disciple]

This is a bit of a problem in the lesbian community. (Gays and lesbians are not immune to prejudices.) Lesbians are not always welcoming of transgendered women. Gays seem to be a little more accepting of transgendered men.  But it is easier to look male by taking a boat load of testosterone, than it is to look female by suppressing testosterone.

Good post. See where you're comin from.

[timfogarty]

Is transgender just the tip of the iceberg with "birth identity" issues...
I'm curious if someone could be trans-racial/trans-species?

All zygotes start out the same.  Then later on various hormones start differentiating between male and female.  It is obvious how hormones affect the genitalia, but we also know that sometimes genitalia misform.  Sometimes the genitalia does not match the chromosomes.  Hormones also have an effect on the developing brain.  Brains get wired in different ways. We're only starting to understand the role these hormones have on various traits.

Let's look at three traits: gender identify, sexual orientation, and masculine vs effeminate.  It seems that none of these are binary, yes/no or 0/1, that they each can be a spectrum. You can be mostly gay or mostly straight, or something in between.  You can feel very much like a girl or a boy or something in between.  And you can be hyper masculine or quite effeminate or something in between.  

And that the three can be completely unrelated to each other.  There are effeminate straight guys, and butch straight girls. As well as masculine gays and feminine lesbians.

Now to your question of race and species. Race is a social construct. The definition of race has changed over the years.  Not that long ago southern Europeans were considered a different race than northern Europeans. There are no biological differences between the races. There are different cultures, and you may find yourself relating more to a culture you were not raised in, but culture is not genetic or hormonal.

As far as trans-species, I suppose it is possible for some long abandoned genes to pop up.  I certainly have met people who seem to be a bit Neanderthal

[goku]

^ Tim, in this case do you think this is more a psychological issue rather than one of hormone/chemical imbalances?
Matt would have massively elevated androgen levels, functional and not worrying estrogen/progesterone levels for a male.
i always thought that hormone/chemical imbalances would take a lion-share of the blame but he wouldn't have this problem?
even as a kid he gravitated toward sports and competing, suggesting decent androgen balance.

but thats a good point though about hormones differentiating during formation, i never even thought about that, fucking interesting way to look at it.
complicated and doubt there will be anything close to a conclusive answer, whatever the case is i do hope he can find happiness in the path he chooses.
dude is genuinely one of the nicest people around.

[HTexan]

World's strongest tranny

[timfogarty]

^ Tim, in this case do you think this is more a psychological issue rather than one of hormone/chemical imbalances?
Matt would have massively elevated androgen levels, functional and not worrying estrogen/progesterone levels for a male.
i always thought that hormone/chemical imbalances would take a lion-share of the blame but he wouldn't have this problem?
even as a kid he gravitated toward sports and competing, suggesting decent androgen balance.

but thats a good point though about hormones differentiating during formation, i never even thought about that, fucking interesting way to look at it.
complicated and doubt there will be anything close to a conclusive answer, whatever the case is i do hope he can find happiness in the path he chooses.
dude is genuinely one of the nicest people around.

When does a child realize "I am" ?   Assuming you're cis-male, when you realized "I am" there was no conflict with that and what people around you were saying "You are".  But for many kids there is a conflict.  What did "I am a boy" mean to you?   It seems that brains are "wired" to think certain ways. And that hormones before birth play a big role

Most transgender people will say they knew at a very young age.  Most gays and lesbians will say they knew at a very young age.  I knew I was gay at age 7, although I didn't know there was a word for it until much later.   Long ago they tried "treating" homosexuality with anabolic steroids.  But a trip to any gay circuit party would lead some to believe that steroids cause homosexuality. (But correlation does not mean causation!)

Matt says he knew at a very young age, and that he got into weightlifting to help suppress these feelings.  That's probably rather common.

[bradistani]

Here's her instagram, if you look at some of the likes, they're sometimes from other powerlifters from the whole Elitefts stable -

http://instagram.com/janaemariekroc/ .

Here's a direct link to the post, that board is pretty tight about making sure posters are legit, if they post about stuff like this -

http://www.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?action=read&id=1437758197.41238&user=tfannon .

there's nowt queerer than folk.

[Competitor 9]

World's strongest tranny

Texs busting out the turbo 400 lol

[HTexan]

Texs busting out the turbo 400 lol

[climber]

too much tren?

[Van_Bilderass]

Race is a social construct.

There are no biological differences between the races.

How come certain races respond differently to certain medication? How come some races are more predisposed to certain illnesses? How do you explain the racial factor in sports where certain races dominate, due  to often researched and verified genetic differences?

Seems to me this whole "there are no races" thing is a political statement. It's also aimed at whites only from what I've seen. No one is trying to make blacks believe they are the same as whites.  The statement is trying to make the point that whites can't be better than say blacks at anything.

[cart@@n]

[Kwon_2]

0:15 = BOOM MUTHAFUCKA!

[timfogarty]

How come certain races respond differently to certain medication? How come some races are more predisposed to certain illnesses? How do you explain the racial factor in sports where certain races dominate, due  to often researched and verified genetic differences?

Seems to me this whole "there are no races" thing is a political statement. It's also aimed at whites only from what I've seen. No one is trying to make blacks believe they are the same as whites.  The statement is trying to make the point that whites can't be better than say blacks at anything.

there are certain traits or genes or proteins that may occur more often in one population than another, but everyone of that race doe not have those genes.  Not all Europeans have cystic fibrosis.   Not all Africans have sickle cell disease.  Not all Ashkenazi Jews have Tay-Sachs.   That some mutation occurs in a population just means that it's genetic.  Someone had a faulty gene, and passed it down to all his or her descendants.

There is no gene or set of genes that all people of one race have and all people not of that race do not have.  There is no single characteristic or group of characteristics that define what race you belong to.  Not all blacks have dark skin.  Not all whites have light skin.  same with hair, nose, lips, and any other physical characteristic.

As far as a racial group dominating a sport, you need to look at the history of that sport.  There was a time where Italians dominated baseball.  Another time where Jews dominated baseball.  Another time blacks.  Now it's latinos.  Turns out economics is the biggest factor in what group dominates baseball.  Your family can't be struggling so much that the kids have to help get food on the table, and you cant be so well off that your parents say put down the ball, come inside and study so you can get into college.

[syntaxmachine]

there are certain traits or genes or proteins that may occur more often in one population than another, but everyone of that race doe not have those genes.  Not all Europeans have cystic fibrosis.   Not all Africans have sickle cell disease.  Not all Ashkenazi Jews have Tay-Sachs.   That some mutation occurs in a population just means that it's genetic.  Someone had a faulty gene, and passed it down to all his or her descendants.

There is no gene or set of genes that all people of one race have and all people not of that race do not have.  There is no single characteristic or group of characteristics that define what race you belong to.  Not all blacks have dark skin.  Not all whites have light skin.  same with hair, nose, lips, and any other physical characteristic.

Politically correct persons' hope that their labeling of race as a social construct will block any inferences made on the basis of race is unsound: chairs are social constructs -- not belonging to any science as a theoretical posit and apparently existing merely as somewhat arbitrarily gerrymandered concatenations of atoms -- yet we can still infer that being hit over the head with one will hurt.

So too with race: there aren't purely biological necessary and sufficient conditions for belonging to the class 'African American,' but we can still infer and generalize on the basis of the somewhat arbitrary set of properties that we gerrymander into our social construct, e.g., we can infer about persons born in the US with significant genetic lineage leading back to Africa with albedos between x and y that they often evince above average fried chicken loving behavior, or that they evince higher rates of diabetes.

The genetic portions of our social constructs of race allow us to make inferences and generalizations about the objects denoted by such concepts, and reliably so. Race-based statistics exist for a reason.

[Ronnie Rep]

Damn, he makes a kinda good looking woman, minus the 20" arms.

Fuck, I am going to hell now.

Was thinking the same Looks better than Caitlyn.

[Powerlift66]

This Kroc story pops up on Outlaw Powerlifting every 5 years or so... Very few credible posters there...
(Not sure if its true or not)

[visualizeperfection]

This Kroc story pops up on Outlaw Powerlifting every 5 years or so... Very few credible posters there...
(Not sure if its true or not)

Dude the pictures are up.


Of course it's true.

[Coach is Back!]

So at what point does his young children start counseling? Serious question here.

[Coach is Back!]

Dave Mirza

Oh boy!

[Irongrip400]

The guy is mentally ill. Not saying that people like him should be bashed on or anything, but it isn't normal, and it is a mental defect.

[visualizeperfection]

The guy is mentally ill. Not saying that people like him should be bashed on or anything, but it isn't normal, and it is a mental defect.

100%

[BB]

This Kroc story pops up on Outlaw Powerlifting every 5 years or so... Very few credible posters there...
(Not sure if its true or not)

Outlaws is fine, they allow trolls, but if you post something like this they do check it out, and if it's a troll, it's gone within the day. That board is small, but it breaks tons of stories.

So at what point does his young children start counseling? Serious question here.

He mentioned that he's been honest with everyone since the beginning, and -

"They have grown up very open minded, nonjudgmental, and respect people's differences. My biggest fear was that one or more of them would feel like I do, but they are teenagers now and none of them do. I only say that not because being transgender is a bad thing but because it is an extremely difficult thing and I would never want them to have to deal with the things I have." .

I've got say just having watched his feeds over the years, the guy does seem to be a great dad in the traditional sense, minus this blip.

[Irongrip400]

I would say the odds are better than not that he attempts suicide.

[hench]

I think if someone suffers from gender identity fine, if they try and fight it, fine, i've know alot of gays and lesbians to know it's not a choice of how to feel. But don't have kids before they've decided, they should decide one way or the other before coz otherwise the kids are just gonna go through hell.

[Irongrip400]

0:15 = BOOM MUTHAFUCKA!

That actually startled me a bit, like some sort of possession/excorcist type shit.