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From the Youtube page,
Pro Bodybuilder and Former Mr. USA Aaron Baker saw my videos along with Pete Cabrera's on Youtube. Aaron sought me out and asked to train with me in my street healing ministry. We met another man who wanted to learn named Steve and took the love and power of Jesus to Alderwood Mall in Lynnwood Washington.
"Stiffness, go away" :D ::)
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More than likely someone will find him hanging from a ceiling before too long. Poor bastard. And I'm not being a dick, either. This type of religious tomfoolery, when it applies to someone like Aaron, usually means he's struggling mightily.
When any attempt towards an oasis within reality fails, a great many turn to sky gods and superstition.
I've always liked Baker. Met him once or twice. And I vividly recall seeing him standing, forlorn and alone, eating a bagel or some shit, outside a hotel in Manhattan very early on the morning after an IFBB contest, where he once again had been shafted. My friend and I actually commented to each other how dejected and sad he appeared.
At least he appears to be off the shit (or any appreciable amount) and physically well (no way to know what state are his innards).
I wish him the best.
P.S. Religion of any kind makes me fume with rage.
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thats not right, they gonna bring a lot of people outta business if they start healing people all over >:(
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Religion of any kind makes me fume with rage.
I have a simple question that I hope doesn't offend you: why?
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I have a simple question that I hope doesn't offend you: why?
It promotes people into a type of gradual brainwashing that leads to delusion and eventual chronic mental illness.
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I have a simple question that I hope doesn't offend you: why?
"Steve prays for people. And God heals them."
Thoughts, MoS?
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It promotes people into a type of gradual brainwashing that leads to delusion and eventual chronic mental illness.
To be fair, you could apply the same logic to any widely held 'view about God/afterlife' then, right?
Any loosely affiliated group who hold similar beliefs (Atheists as a basic example), would be networking socially within that group, listening to opinions from within that group (even from influential movie directors, or T.V. script writers for example) and according to your line of thinking, become brainwashed also.
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To be fair, you could apply the same logic to any widely held 'view about God/afterlife' then, right?
Any loosely affiliated group who hold similar beliefs (Atheists as a basic example), would be networking socially within that group, listening to opinions from within that group (even from influential movie directors, or T.V. script writers for example) and according to your line of thinking, become brainwashed also.
shut up
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To be fair, you could apply the same logic to any widely held 'view about God/afterlife' then, right?
Any loosely affiliated group who hold similar beliefs (Atheists as a basic example), would be networking socially within that group, listening to opinions from within that group (even from influential movie directors, or T.V. script writers for example) and according to your line of thinking, become brainwashed also.
true but you better shut up ;)
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Oh boy.
Strange, if he "healed" these people on the street, why doesn't he go to the childrens cancer or AIDS wards in hospitals and cure them? ??? ??? ???
Instead, he goes on the street and finds people with minor ailments, touches them, and they say they feel better. And this is "evidence" that they were healed? Religious people will believe just about anything. I wonder how these people felt a day or a week later? Were they still healed? ::) ::) ::) ::)
There is another video where a guy has one leg 2 inches longer than the other one. They pray for his other leg to grow, and claim that his leg grew 2 inches just by praying haha lol.
The delusion is strong in these videos.
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too much wisdom for getbig!
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Dude looks at least 20 years younger than he is. The power of Him is supreme!
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Here's a tidbit-
In 1979, in Winston-Salem, North Carolina Aaron Baker won the Teenage Mr. Tarhill Bodybuilding title. Who took 4th place in the same show?
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Has he ever addressed his sexuality?
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Has he ever addressed his sexuality?
The guy who placed 4th or Aaron?
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The guy who placed 4th or Aaron?
LOL!
But you wonder why a gay person like him or Kai don't win shows as it takes a very "open mind" to be a pro... Yet the openly gay guys like Paris always got shafted.
I don't get it.
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"Why is the ceiling spinning?"
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"Stiffness, go away" :D ::)
The kind of healing a schmoe does not care about.
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LOL!
But you wonder why a gay person like him or Kai don't win shows as it takes a very "open mind" to be a pro... Yet the openly gay guys like Paris always got shafted.
I don't get it.
It's weird, Brother Baker was banging a really hot Swedish girl for years in Venice. I knew him well and never, not one single time, saw him with a dude. I do however understand the "rumors."
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It's weird, Brother Baker was banging a really hot Swedish girl for years in Venice. I knew him well and never, not one single time, saw him with a dude. I do however understand the "rumors."
Rumors don't start for nothing man! I'm like a vampire who can just tell and scope out gays by pics or whatnot. Having been annoyed by them most my life (they just love me, even on dating sites recently, got lots of requests, lol..) and I just know man.
He's gay.
It's ok, Aaron, it's 2015 now, time to come out of the closet brother. The longer you stay in there, the more rediculous you look...
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To be fair, you could apply the same logic to any widely held 'view about God/afterlife' then, right?
Any loosely affiliated group who hold similar beliefs (Atheists as a basic example), would be networking socially within that group, listening to opinions from within that group (even from influential movie directors, or T.V. script writers for example) and according to your line of thinking, become brainwashed also.
LOL, exactly. You said it better than I would've.
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Rumors don't start for nothing man! I'm like a vampire who can just tell and scope out gays by pics or whatnot. Having been annoyed by them most my life (they just love me, even on dating sites recently, got lots of requests, lol..) and I just know man.
He's gay.
It's ok, Aaron, it's 2015 now, time to come out of the closet brother. The longer you stay in there, the more rediculous you look...
Oh, I am NOT betting against you.
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Oh, I am NOT betting against you.
Ha, always safe to bet on the joker!
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"Steve prays for people. And God heals them."
Thoughts, MoS?
Honest answer, I don't know.
I certainly believe God heals folks, but the healing ministries I can't fully speak to.
Benny Hinn, Todd White, the African healing ministry, etc.....I've listed to Todd in particular and he has a genuine love and zeal for God and loving people....it's infectious.
Benny Hinn and his "catchers" seems like ridiculous, charlatan nonsense as does the African healing ministry (see on youtube). This is also obviously faked.
Is God working through him on the streets to heal others? I can neither confirm or deny it.....I don't know.
Some argue that the gifts of tongues and healing were meant only for Christ's apostles....that it doesn't extend into the modern church. I've listened to both sides of the debate and my conclusion is that I just don't know.
I can tell you that the consensus of modern apologists either say the healing ministries are false or they simply don't know. I don't know any that confirms it as the genuine article.
Always comes back to "if God is healing folks why doesn't he regrow amputated limbs?" Who says he doesn't? I don't know all cases in all of history.
I can say God does heal because.....well.....he healed me in a powerful experience I've shared elsewhere on GB. He healed my father as well. Why didn't he heal the guy next door? I don't know.
Todd White posits that he's been unable to heal amputees on the street because perhaps his faith isn't strong enough. Yet he claims to have see crippled folks be instantly healed and get out of wheel chairs in plain sight on the street because of God working through him as vessel of healing power.
Folks in Christ's time on earth saw him heal others before their eyes and still deny him.....fact is it's a hard sell.
Another group of Christian apologists claim to have witnessed the instantaneous regrowth of a severed ear on a mission trip. The ear didn't grow completely back, but partially and almost instantly before there eyes. I have no reason to doubt these folks because they're highly respected Christian apologist/theologians who are skeptics in regard to healing ministries yet they experienced this. Some of them said that perhaps the body underwent some "spontaneous regeneration that medical science doesn't understand yet".
Again, I just don't know.....probably won't ever know. Sorry. :-\
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More than likely someone will find him hanging from a ceiling before too long. Poor bastard. And I'm not being a dick, either. This type of religious tomfoolery, when it applies to someone like Aaron, usually means he's struggling mightily.
When any attempt towards an oasis within reality fails, a great many turn to sky gods and superstition.
I've always liked Baker. Met him once or twice. And I vividly recall seeing him standing, forlorn and alone, eating a bagel or some shit, outside a hotel in Manhattan very early on the morning after an IFBB contest, where he once again had been shafted. My friend and I actually commented to each other how dejected and sad he appeared.
At least he appears to be off the shit (or any appreciable amount) and physically well (no way to know what state are his innards).
I wish him the best.
P.S. Religion of any kind makes me fume with rage.
Damn, he must've looked like a pudding faced version of Big Lou in Pumping Iron when he was standing by himself eating an orange while looking around the room with his helmet haircut. Poor sap
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More than likely someone will find him hanging from a ceiling before too long. Poor bastard. And I'm not being a dick, either. This type of religious tomfoolery, when it applies to someone like Aaron, usually means he's struggling mightily.
When any attempt towards an oasis within reality fails, a great many turn to sky gods and superstition.
I've always liked Baker. Met him once or twice. And I vividly recall seeing him standing, forlorn and alone, eating a bagel or some shit, outside a hotel in Manhattan very early on the morning after an IFBB contest, where he once again had been shafted. My friend and I actually commented to each other how dejected and sad he appeared.
At least he appears to be off the shit (or any appreciable amount) and physically well (no way to know what state are his innards).
I wish him the best.
P.S. Religion of any kind makes me fume with rage.
I like the cut of your jib. (nohomo)
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Honest answer, I don't know.
I certainly believe God heals folks, but the healing ministries I can't fully speak to.
Benny Hinn, Todd White, the African healing ministry, etc.....I've listed to Todd in particular and he has a genuine love and zeal for God and loving people....it's infectious.
Benny Hinn and his "catchers" seems like ridiculous, charlatan nonsense as does the African healing ministry (see on youtube). This is also obviously faked.
Is God working through him on the streets to heal others? I can neither confirm or deny it.....I don't know.
Some argue that the gifts of tongues and healing were meant only for Christ's apostles....that it doesn't extend into the modern church. I've listened to both sides of the debate and my conclusion is that I just don't know.
I can tell you that the consensus of modern apologists either say the healing ministries are false or they simply don't know. I don't know any that confirms it as the genuine article.
Always comes back to "if God is healing folks why doesn't he regrow amputated limbs?" Who says he doesn't? I don't know all cases in all of history.
I can say God does heal because.....well.....he healed me in a powerful experience I've shared elsewhere on GB. He healed my father as well. Why didn't he heal the guy next door? I don't know.
Todd White posits that he's been unable to heal amputees on the street because perhaps his faith isn't strong enough. Yet he claims to have see crippled folks be instantly healed and get out of wheel chairs in plain sight on the street because of God working through him as vessel of healing power.
Folks in Christ's time on earth saw him heal others before their eyes and still deny him.....fact is it's a hard sell.
Another group of Christian apologists claim to have witnessed the instantaneous regrowth of a severed ear on a mission trip. The ear didn't grow completely back, but partially and almost instantly before there eyes. I have no reason to doubt these folks because they're highly respected Christian apologist/theologians who are skeptics in regard to healing ministries yet they experienced this. Some of them said that perhaps the body underwent some "spontaneous regeneration that medical science doesn't understand yet".
Again, I just don't know.....probably won't ever know. Sorry. :-\
God heals people. ::)
Give me a fucking break.
Do you know how many people die everyday?
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God heals people. ::)
Give me a fucking break.
Do you know how many people die everyday?
No, I don't know how many people die everyday.
Let me google that....
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approximately 155K die each day
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approximately 155K die each day
So much for healing. ::)
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Honest answer, I don't know.
I certainly believe God heals folks, but the healing ministries I can't fully speak to.
Benny Hinn, Todd White, the African healing ministry, etc.....I've listed to Todd in particular and he has a genuine love and zeal for God and loving people....it's infectious.
Benny Hinn and his "catchers" seems like ridiculous, charlatan nonsense as does the African healing ministry (see on youtube). This is also obviously faked.
Is God working through him on the streets to heal others? I can neither confirm or deny it.....I don't know.
Some argue that the gifts of tongues and healing were meant only for Christ's apostles....that it doesn't extend into the modern church. I've listened to both sides of the debate and my conclusion is that I just don't know.
I can tell you that the consensus of modern apologists either say the healing ministries are false or they simply don't know. I don't know any that confirms it as the genuine article.
Always comes back to "if God is healing folks why doesn't he regrow amputated limbs?" Who says he doesn't? I don't know all cases in all of history.
I can say God does heal because.....well.....he healed me in a powerful experience I've shared elsewhere on GB. He healed my father as well. Why didn't he heal the guy next door? I don't know.
Todd White posits that he's been unable to heal amputees on the street because perhaps his faith isn't strong enough. Yet he claims to have see crippled folks be instantly healed and get out of wheel chairs in plain sight on the street because of God working through him as vessel of healing power.
Folks in Christ's time on earth saw him heal others before their eyes and still deny him.....fact is it's a hard sell.
Another group of Christian apologists claim to have witnessed the instantaneous regrowth of a severed ear on a mission trip. The ear didn't grow completely back, but partially and almost instantly before there eyes. I have no reason to doubt these folks because they're highly respected Christian apologist/theologians who are skeptics in regard to healing ministries yet they experienced this. Some of them said that perhaps the body underwent some "spontaneous regeneration that medical science doesn't understand yet".
Again, I just don't know.....probably won't ever know. Sorry. :-\
C'mon, guy. When there isn't a single recorded case, can't we be relatively certain?
We also don't know every individual outcome of a permanently ceased heart, but we can safely assume it's death 100% of the time.
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So much for healing. ::)
So let's follow this bit of logic:
So if death means there is no healing, then does life mean there is no illness?
This would be an antonymic pair, correct?
But we know in life that illness exists and that renders the logical conclusion as false, but then it renders the logic of opposite side of the antonymic pair as false.
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Here's a tidbit-
In 1979, in Winston-Salem, North Carolina Aaron Baker won the Teenage Mr. Tarhill Bodybuilding title. Who took 4th place in the same show?
benny poda?
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C'mon, guy. When there isn't a single recorded case, can't we be relatively certain?
We also don't know every individual outcome of a permanently ceased heart, but we can safely assume it's death 100% of the time.
I think it's a reasonable assumption that amputees are not healed based on what we know. I have no evidence to support otherwise
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So let's follow this bit of logic:
So if death means there is no healing, then does life mean there is no illness?
This would be an antonymic pair, correct?
Why would there be necessarily an opposite to everything? Flawed logic. Raw dialectical way of thinking not only shared by religious people but also Marxists, Fascists and all kind of people who fail to see reality through anything else then a Black/White scope.
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I think it's a reasonable assumption that amputees are not healed based on what we know. I have no evidence to support otherwise
What happens is another person forms on the amputated limb, its silly to think a limb can grow back.
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Why would there be necessarily an opposite to everything? Flawed logic. Raw dialectical way of thinking not only shared by religious people but also Marxists, Fascists and all kind of people who fail to see reality through anything else then a Black/White scope.
That is a flawed thinking, but it isn't mine. Not everything has an exact opposite and that isn't what I suggested.
Antonymic pairs have qualifiers that make them so. At first blush, what TA suggested as a logical conclusion and my pairing of the opposite appears to fit the qualifications of an antonymic pair.
Although, given that illness is found in life it negates the logic that life means there is no illness and therefore the antonymic pair (death means there is no healing) is also deemed false.
I'm no expert on logic though. It's exhausting trying to sound all intellectual. ;D
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That is a flawed thinking, but it isn't mine. Not everything has an exact opposite and that isn't what I suggested.
Antonymic pairs have qualifiers that make them so. At first blush, what TA suggested as a logical conclusion and my pairing of the opposite appears to fit the qualifications of an antonymic pair.
Although, given that illness is found in life it negates the logic that life means there is no illness and therefore the antonymic pair (death means there is no healing) is also deemed false. I'm no expert on logic though.
Well, illness is found in life, no doubt. I don't see which kind of logic would take us from that obvious conclusion to anything definitive about death. As far as I know, nothing tangible has been proven about what happens when you die or after. No logic, just speculations. Through faith or through the absence of it.
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What happens is another person forms on the amputated limb, its silly to think a limb can grow back.
I saw it in X-Files.
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I think it's a reasonable assumption that amputees are not healed based on what we know. I have no evidence to support otherwise
Yes, God only conveniently heals those people with soar throats, but cant heal people with incurable ailments.
How convenient. ::) ::)
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Haha damn you americans are a crazy bunch of people.
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That behavor would never happen in best korea
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Yes, God only conveniently heals those people with soar throats, but cant heal people with incurable ailments.
How convenient. ::) ::)
I'm completely honest in that I can't speak to the frequency and type of healing we see today.
Certainly I've heard testimonies from doctors, nurses, patients, etc....about miraculous things occurring for which there is no scientific explanation.
Still, I just don't know, but that doesn't negate who God is or his good will and purposes. I don't know everything about God (how arrogant and presumptuous would that position be?). I only know what we're made privy to via the scriptures. We can infer things based upon scripture and we discern and build our understanding "precept upon precept".
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Bunch of mentally ill jokers.....
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uMjdD3RSLng/Tge56KNf5xI/AAAAAAAABL8/PQmlW1MCcUI/aaron-baker-22.jpg)
Flock of Seagulls of peace
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nice to see Aaron Maddron is preaching the word now
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Haha damn you americans are a crazy bunch of people.
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That behavor would never happen in best korea
For a damn good reason :D
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They should team up with Coleman, Dobson, J. Sweet Tits Jackson, and tough guy Branch and start their own chapter of bible thumping kooks in Texas. It would be huge. What a great tax free venture.
Grown men beliving in imaginary shit...priceless.
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benny poda?
:D No. However, Benny Poda was a very interesting guess.
Here's a hint- he post on getbig and his screen name rhymes with Ronniedishphone.
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They should team up with Coleman, Dobson, J. Sweet Tits Jackson, and tough guy Branch and start their own chapter of bible thumping kooks in Texas. It would be huge. What a great tax free venture.
Grown men beliving in imaginary shit...priceless.
They just all feel weak and scared.
Every religious person you encounter, you can be sure - that person is feeling weak and is scared/uncomfortable with everything. Some are stronger and take a stoic pose in front of life shit, some are weaker and indulge into alcohol, antidepressants or religion.
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Aaron was, in my honest opinion, one of the most underrated bodybuilders of all time.
He was no doubt forced to pay for the WWF fiasco.
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Aaron was, in my honest opinion, one of the most underrated bodybuilders of all time.
He was no doubt forced to pay for the WWF fiasco.
I think most would agree with that, especially the 1994 Olympia.
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From the Youtube page,
Pro Bodybuilder and Former Mr. USA Aaron Baker saw my videos along with Pete Cabrera's on Youtube. Aaron sought me out and asked to train with me in my street healing ministry. We met another man who wanted to learn named Steve and took the love and power of Jesus to Alderwood Mall in Lynnwood Washington.
"Stiffness, go away" :D ::)
This is so farcical. I have dealt with such as this and in person at a church and have done so on several occasions and if any are interested I will give an example. If not, suffice to say that I put no stock in anything this type of person says.
This is not of Christ.
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benny poda?
That's an awesome guess. I was gonna guess Ron Tuefel but I think it is Tommy himself.
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I'm completely honest in that I can't speak to the frequency and type of healing we see today.
Certainly I've heard testimonies from doctors, nurses, patients, etc....about miraculous things occurring for which there is no scientific explanation.
Still, I just don't know, but that doesn't negate who God is or his good will and purposes. I don't know everything about God (how arrogant and presumptuous would that position be?). I only know what we're made privy to via the scriptures. We can infer things based upon scripture and we discern and build our understanding "precept upon precept".
No scientific explantion doesnt = God did it.
It just means we don't have an answer. Plain and simple. You just don't get to insert your God into every unanswered question.
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-uMjdD3RSLng/Tge56KNf5xI/AAAAAAAABL8/PQmlW1MCcUI/aaron-baker-22.jpg)
Flock of Seagulls of peace
Nothing gay about that pic, lol!
Has Wolverine hair...
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Is that the SJW from BLM that jumped Bernie Sanders in Seattle in the background of the pic above.
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Here's a tidbit-
In 1979, in Winston-Salem, North Carolina Aaron Baker won the Teenage Mr. Tarhill Bodybuilding title. Who took 4th place in the same show?
hi funk.
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That's an awesome guess. I was gonna guess Ron Tuefel but I think it is Tommy himself.
:D Ron Tuefel is another excellent guess, incorrect, but still excellent. Your second hunch is correct- it was me.
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For you movie buffs:
Aaron is briefly in two scenes at the beginning of the movie Sister Act 2. He has no dialogue; I think he is uncredited. Here is a photo from the second scene:
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hi funk.
I'm trying to figure this one out but I'm drawing a blank.
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No scientific explantion doesnt = God did it.
It just means we don't have an answer. Plain and simple. You just don't get to insert your God into every unanswered question.
I never said what you inferred.
I'm not some naive, uninformed believer that doesn't understand these basic arguments LOL.
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For you movie buffs:
Aaron is briefly in two scenes at the beginning of the movie Sister Act 2. He has no dialogue; I think he is uncredited. Here is a photo from the second scene:
Nice catch. Interesting connection.
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I'm trying to figure this one out but I'm drawing a blank.
Think he's saying you sounded like him with the bodybuilding history trivia
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Nice catch. Interesting connection.
That was rather solid.
Nothing gets by this place.
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:D Ron Tuefel is another excellent guess, incorrect, but still excellent. Your second hunch is correct- it was me.
Must've been your rhyme hint.
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"Congestion....Aaron I think it's your turn."
Anyway, it's nice to have a post about AB (thank you DP). After his WBF Batman Baker was allowed back in the IFBB but of course he never placed again in a contest. He was a great BB, though. Deserved better, top 5 Olympia.
says Dr Dutch
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For you movie buffs:
Aaron is briefly in two scenes at the beginning of the movie Sister Act 2. He has no dialogue; I think he is uncredited. Here is a photo from the second scene:
He also play a heel in a short lived black pro wrestling league.
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I'm trying to figure this one out but I'm drawing a blank.
it was dumb. I read your first post but not the follow up. Sounded like one of funks brain teaser nostalgia posts.
(And yes funk is cool and admit I like his posts except the DLB shit. ;D)
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;) I'm with ya.