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Title: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 23, 2015, 01:17:38 PM
 ;D

Bodybuilding hit it's peak with him and Ronnie. Sorry Phil , Jay and Dex
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 23, 2015, 01:19:06 PM
He's right..
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 23, 2015, 01:20:44 PM
He's right..

No former Mr Olympia respects Phil apparently lol
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Yamcha on August 23, 2015, 01:21:07 PM
Phil could look like that if he busted his ass in the gym year round.

But he only puts forth the effort necessary to win the Olympia. Work harder Phil. Fuck thinking about longevity and money.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Nether Animal on August 23, 2015, 01:27:17 PM
Phil could look like that if he busted his ass in the gym year round.

No, he absolutely could not ever come close to that..
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Dr Dutch on August 23, 2015, 01:29:39 PM
He's right..
Nice to agree on something, DP... :)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: The Scott on August 23, 2015, 01:32:14 PM
No former Mr Olympia respects Phil apparently lol

That is because respect must be earned.  It is not a gift.

And neither is Heath.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Alucard on August 23, 2015, 01:34:02 PM
Yates is clearly right, no discussion... Let's see if Heath can handle it without exploding...
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Redux on August 23, 2015, 01:41:26 PM
Phil isn't going to like that one bit. Not one bit.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 23, 2015, 01:44:18 PM
Phil isn't going to like that one bit. Not one bit.

I know Ronnie has put him in his place and now Dorian lol
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on August 23, 2015, 01:44:47 PM
Hahahha phils time is coming to an end
He's done

Timeline-possible
Phil disrespects Arnold
Haters control him
Loses the Olympia
Goes nuts
Gifted nutrition goes out of business
Becomes up to his ears in debt trying to pay off his debt from his company
He can't sell all his leftover supps
His ex wife sues him
Phil sells his house and car and watches
Gets diagnosed with diabetes
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Hulkotron on August 23, 2015, 01:44:53 PM
lol @ "Booooom!", a page straight out of the great QuakerOats book :D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on August 23, 2015, 01:58:08 PM
Hahahha phils time is coming to an end
He's done

Timeline-possible
Phil disrespects Arnold
Haters control him
Loses the Olympia
Goes nuts
Gifted nutrition goes out of business
Becomes up to his ears in debt trying to pay off his debt from his company
He can't sell all his leftover supps
His ex wife sues him
Phil sells his house and car and watches
Gets diagnosed with diabetes kidney failure and has to have dialysis before dying

fixed
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Simple Simon on August 23, 2015, 01:58:32 PM
Phil isn't going to like that one bit. Not one bit.
(http://broscience.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/phil-heath-985x600.jpg)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Redux on August 23, 2015, 02:00:38 PM
(http://broscience.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/phil-heath-985x600.jpg)

Is that pic from the Olympia he dedicated to his now ex-wife who had cancer or the one he dedicated to the people of Denver after the theater shooting?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Mr.1derful on August 23, 2015, 02:01:31 PM
;D

Bodybuilding hit it's peak with him and Ronnie. Sorry Phil , Jay and Dex

Burn!  Dorian is 100% correct.  Let's see how badly this gets in Phil's head.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Bevo on August 23, 2015, 02:04:58 PM
Bbing peaked with Lee Haney  :D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: 10pints on August 23, 2015, 02:06:25 PM
Phil is a crying little manlet. Dorian is a true legend.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: BigRo on August 23, 2015, 02:11:57 PM
Bbing peaked with Lee Haney  :D

I would agree with this.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 23, 2015, 02:12:05 PM
Phil could look like that if he busted his ass in the gym year round.

But he only puts forth the effort necessary to win the Olympia. Work harder Phil. Fuck thinking about longevity and money.

no way he could, phil doesnt have the menatlity or the will power to train like yates did, yates trained heavy with good form and full range of motion

yates ass fucked phil on side triceps, thighs, calves  and back.  


the worst yates ever placed in a show was 2nd
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Skeletor on August 23, 2015, 02:13:50 PM
Phil isn't going to like that one bit. Not one bit.

Twitter/facebook meltdown with 20 different hashtag phrases coming soon.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Nails on August 23, 2015, 02:17:17 PM
Peak  ::) ::)



(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=40582&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)


(http://nattyornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/heath-arm-training-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: wes on August 23, 2015, 02:21:14 PM
(http://broscience.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/phil-heath-985x600.jpg)

(http://worth1000.s3.amazonaws.com/submissions/377500/377583_de72_625x1000.jpg)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on August 23, 2015, 02:21:54 PM
Strong evidence of Down syndrome in that last pic of phil
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Azure on August 23, 2015, 02:25:15 PM
I would agree with this.

Me too. It started going downhill after Lee Haney.

I sure hope he doesn't insult Dorian.  That would be all bad.  

He's not just talking about Phil. He's talking about jay too and I agree with him on that too.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Rudee on August 23, 2015, 02:45:11 PM
Phil could look like that if he busted his ass in the gym year round.

But he only puts forth the effort necessary to win the Olympia. Work harder Phil. Fuck thinking about longevity and money.

It worked for Arnold. He only busted his ass 16 weeks out of the year.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: calfzilla on August 23, 2015, 02:47:05 PM
He's correct. Jay wasn't horrible but Ronnie and Yates were the peak.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Papper on August 23, 2015, 02:53:25 PM
1. Dorian is semi right. It peaked with ronnie in freakiness but in fact it looked better going back in time.

2. Phil can't ever look like that because of proportion, structure etc.

3. Phil dedicated a win to forest fire victims I think it was.

4. Derelicte my balls, captain.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Wiggs on August 23, 2015, 03:02:35 PM
What brought this all on? Was this a random comment from Dorian? And no, Phil will not like it one bit.  Bodybuilding peaked with Lee Haney.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Iceman1981 on August 23, 2015, 03:07:46 PM
Dorian is correct!!!

Who is the best Mr. Olympia since Ronnie? Any opinions?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Hulkotron on August 23, 2015, 03:13:56 PM
Dorian is correct!!!

Who is the best Mr. Olympia since Ronnie? Any opinions?

Dexter
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Waller on August 23, 2015, 03:14:29 PM
Dexter

X2.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 23, 2015, 03:21:23 PM
What brought this all on? Was this a random comment from Dorian? And no, Phil will not like it one bit.  Bodybuilding peaked with Lee Haney.

Apparently just a random comment.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 23, 2015, 03:23:27 PM
Dexter

Not the most likable Mr O, but you're right
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Dr.J on August 23, 2015, 03:30:41 PM
Dorian was my motivation back in the day!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 23, 2015, 03:42:13 PM
dexter

cutler to me is the worst olympia ever ugly fucking  look.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: SF1900 on August 23, 2015, 03:47:39 PM
This is going to bruise narrow Heaths ego lol. I bet he's pondering ways to respond to Dorian!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 23, 2015, 03:50:09 PM
This is going to bruise narrow Heaths ego lol. I bet he's pondering ways to respond to Dorian!

I know he reads Getbig , Phil is cracking this is going to fuck-up his prep
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 23, 2015, 04:33:47 PM
theres no way he can talk shit  about yates or coleman either

cause he knows they were light years ahead of him.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Hulkotron on August 23, 2015, 04:39:29 PM
dexter

cutler to me is the worst olympia ever ugly fucking  look.

Jay has a few shots where he looks unbelievable. 

Overall I agree with you though.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Skorp1o on August 23, 2015, 05:30:09 PM
Phil is currently using this as his motivation listening to the following rap song:

Prove'em wrong!
Prove'em wrong!
Prove'em wrong?
Prove'em wrong!
Prove'em wrong!
Prove'em wrong?
Prove'em wrong!
Prove'em wrong!
Prove'em wrong?

Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: The Scott on August 23, 2015, 05:32:35 PM
Phil is currently using this as his motivation listening to the following rap song:

Prove'em wrong!
Prove'em wrong!
Prove'em wrong?
Prove'em wrong!
Prove'em wrong!
Prove'em wrong?
Prove'em wrong!
Prove'em wrong!
Prove'em wrong?



If true, that song probably had 6 producers and four lyricists.   Any music they just stole...errrr... "sampled".  cRap sucks as much as Phildo does.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Royalty on August 23, 2015, 05:41:02 PM
Jay's back was not too shabby in 2006. Not the best back ever; but not bad.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 23, 2015, 05:52:50 PM
Jay's back was not too shabby in 2006. Not the best back ever; but not bad.


Jay's back was actually very good. Not on par with Dorian or Ronnie but his back was huge , wide and thick and showed good detail
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 23, 2015, 05:56:31 PM
It worked for Arnold. He only busted his ass 16 weeks out of the year.


yeah but arnold trained like a animal for 16 weeks supersetting everything on a low carb diet, he didnt have a guru to dry him out , and wasnt taking dnp.

big difference, he had to train and diet hard to get cut.  these guys today are on so much shit  its not even funny.

they are walking pharmaceutical factories

i had several convos with casey viator he told me arnold trained like a madman for a show and his routine would kill most people
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Davidtheman100 on August 23, 2015, 06:23:11 PM
no way he could, phil doesnt have the menatlity or the will power to train like yates did, yates trained heavy with good form and full range of motion

yates ass fucked phil on side triceps, thighs, calves  and back.  


the worst yates ever placed in a show was 2nd


he REALLY REALLY ass fucked him on calves and back
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 23, 2015, 06:32:39 PM
you got that right

not to mention conditioning, philsulin isnt even close to yates dryness

he has to go to a fag like rambod to help him out , yates didnt do shit like that
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: mesmorph78 on August 23, 2015, 06:34:45 PM
Dorian is correct!!!

Who is the best Mr. Olympia since Ronnie? Any opinions?
Dexter Jackson


Phil was never Mr Olympia to me
I lost interest in the Olympia when Phil won....
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 23, 2015, 06:35:55 PM

i had several convos with casey viator he told me arnold trained like a madman for a show and his routine would kill most people

I remember Arnold saying if he had to train as hard as Casey he would take up skiing, or something to that effect. :D


he has to go to a fag like rambod to help him out , yates didnt do shit like that

I'm sure Yates sought out help here and there with the pharmaceuticals. I remember Borresen said Yates sought his help with DNP though Yates denied being associated with him IIRC. Duchaine I remember said he had drug discussions with Yates too. I bet there were some UK drug gurus helping out as well, perhaps Batcheldor?

Yates was a bit of a drug guru for Titus in 2001. Titus said Yates' Demadex advice almost killed him. :D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 23, 2015, 06:38:00 PM
No former Mr Olympia respects Phil apparently lol

Who's quote is this?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 23, 2015, 06:38:13 PM
I remember Arnold saying if he had to train as hard as Casey he would take up skiing, or something to that effect. :D


yes he sure did, arnold said casey was an animal

casey told me, arnolds  precontest routine was pretty brutal, casy trained with arnold several times in the 70's

casey had nothing but good things to say about arnold  
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: SF1900 on August 23, 2015, 06:38:35 PM
I know he reads Getbig , Phil is cracking this is going to fuck-up his prep

Phil is smashing his keyboard, trying to find ways to respond to Dorian. He will then go to the gym and do #hatereps!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Davidtheman100 on August 23, 2015, 06:42:01 PM
no way he could, phil doesnt have the menatlity or the will power to train like yates did, yates trained heavy with good form and full range of motion

yates ass fucked phil on side triceps, thighs, calves  and back.  


the worst yates ever placed in a show was 2nd

I agree with what you're saying but that last part is not true. In the world games Dorian Yates came in 7th. This was towards the beginning of his career though.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 23, 2015, 06:42:41 PM
Who's quote is this?

Ronald Dean Coleman
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 23, 2015, 06:46:21 PM
problem is there is no way phil can bash yates

there is absolutely nothing phil can claim he is better at

yates trained harder, yates was  in better shape, yate better bodybuilder,

yates defeated, wheeler, coleman,ray,nassar dillet,  labrada, etc

heaths competition is watery clowns    like  ramy, and grape fruit fucker who dress up in gimp suits  like kai green. and a  4'11 troll in

branch warren, oh wait he beat cutler the worst mr olympia ever.



Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 23, 2015, 06:47:54 PM
and grape fruit fucker who dress up in gimp suits  like kai green.




Classy dress shirt :D
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 23, 2015, 06:51:25 PM
bwa ha ha and they wonder why people find bodybuilding weird
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: wes on August 23, 2015, 06:52:46 PM
:(
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Wiggs on August 23, 2015, 06:53:49 PM
Awaiting Phil's response to Dorian's comments.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 23, 2015, 06:56:11 PM
wtf is this,  he looks like a charachter from the new star wars movie  like an emperial anal trooper.



why would any company want this clown representing them is beyond me.   
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 23, 2015, 07:02:22 PM
Kai's style is very strange, strange image he's trying to portray. Personally I don't even
know if it's gay, it's just ugly.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Davidtheman100 on August 23, 2015, 07:09:59 PM
wtf is this,  he looks like a charachter from the new star wars movie  like an emperial anal trooper.



why would any company want this clown representing them is beyond me.   


lol because of the political correctness of everyone being able to "express themselves" and "be different"
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 23, 2015, 07:15:58 PM
Phil is smashing his keyboard, trying to find ways to respond to Dorian. He will then go to the gym and do #hatereps!

#TeamNarrow
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Mr.1derful on August 23, 2015, 07:17:36 PM
I agree with what you're saying but that last part is not true. In the world games Dorian Yates came in 7th. This was towards the beginning of his career though.

Yates never placed less than 2nd as a pro.  World Games was as an amateur.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 23, 2015, 07:19:48 PM
Yates never placed less than 2nd as a pro.

And only placed second twice. Once to Momo in his first pro show and the other to Haney in his first Olympia , his record is fucking insane when you think about it.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 23, 2015, 07:20:21 PM

lol because of the political correctness of everyone being able to "express themselves" and "be different"


ha ha ha your right bro but that is just plane weird-  how do i convince a straight bro   that is the face of bodybuilding
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Mr.1derful on August 23, 2015, 07:21:00 PM
And only placed second twice. Once to Momo in his first pro show and the other to Haney in his first Olympia , his record is fucking insane when you think about it.
Yup.  Best winning percentage as a pro?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: titusisback on August 23, 2015, 07:23:00 PM
Real men hold hands at the Olympia

(http://i62.tinypic.com/etfmmf.jpg)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 23, 2015, 07:23:12 PM
hey mr wonderfull it has to be the only other person i can think of with maybe as good or better is arnold

and thats what i meant in my post as a pro,  he only came in second twice,    in the modern era no one can match him percentage wise.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: oldschoolfan on August 23, 2015, 07:26:43 PM
Real men hold hands at the Olympia

(http://i62.tinypic.com/etfmmf.jpg)

those three guys right there would squash any of the clowns competing today

two of them were heavily influenced by mike mentzer
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: SF1900 on August 23, 2015, 07:27:16 PM

lol because of the political correctness of everyone being able to "express themselves" and "be different"

I thought Americans were allowed to express themselves freely? Or did I miss something?  ??? ???

Would you rather live under a dictator that forbade freedom of expression? Or are people only allowed to express themselves freely if it is align with the current values of a society? Doesn't seem like youre promoting much of what America stands for: Freedom.

Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: SF1900 on August 23, 2015, 07:28:30 PM
#TeamNarrow

He actually looks like an NPC competitor in that picture.  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: che on August 23, 2015, 07:33:38 PM
Dorian Yates and Ronnie Coleman ruined bodybuilding for ever.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 23, 2015, 07:38:47 PM
Dorian Yates and Ronnie Coleman ruined bodybuilding for ever.

Well technically the judges did.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Davidtheman100 on August 23, 2015, 07:44:02 PM
I thought Americans were allowed to express themselves freely? Or did I miss something?  ??? ???

Would you rather live under a dictator that forbade freedom of expression? Or are people only allowed to express themselves freely if it is align with the current values of a society? Doesn't seem like youre promoting much of what America stands for: Freedom.



lol you're missing the point...I'm portraying that the reason he excels with his sponsors is because he is able to appeal to a more unique, different type of audience (talent aside, because he's never won an olympia and still is more popular than Heath among voters) and in this day and age, those actions are in his favor. In a different time, (with the same freedoms) his weird, obscure displays would have not worked in his favor. Call it a marketing technique? Not at all. He's just being himself.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: SF1900 on August 23, 2015, 07:46:25 PM
lol you're missing the point...I'm portraying that the reason he excels with his sponsors is because he is able to appeal to a more unique, different type of audience (talent aside, because he's never won an olympia and still is more popular than Heath among voters) and in this day and age, those actions are in his favor. In a different time, (with the same freedoms) his weird, obscure displays would have not worked in his favor. Call it a marketing technique? Not at all. He's just being himself.

But he was fired from muscle-tech. Clearly, it didnt work to his advantage.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: che on August 23, 2015, 07:49:08 PM
Well technically the judges did.
I agree
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Emmortal on August 23, 2015, 08:05:16 PM
#TeamNarrow

Take away his arms and you can see just how unimpressive he is:

Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: The Scott on August 23, 2015, 08:06:42 PM
Take away his arms and you can see just how unimpressive he is:



No...Take away his drugs.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: old-school-lifter on August 23, 2015, 08:49:39 PM
No former Mr Olympia respects Phil apparently lol

NO ONE respects Phil lol
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Azure on August 23, 2015, 08:52:06 PM
are these recent comments. For his sake I hope he doesn't read this board or respond to these comments. It's too close to the show to start getting mind fu*ked. At this point I feel really sorry for him. Seems his peers and predecessors save for jay neither like or respect him:
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: old-school-lifter on August 23, 2015, 08:59:04 PM
Phil reads getbig and the comments do hurt him
but he deserves every one of them

watch and see, he will be attacking Dorian soon
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Rajkapoor on August 24, 2015, 12:16:39 AM
Peak  ::) ::)



(http://muscletime.com/index.php?view=image&format=raw&type=img&id=40582&option=com_joomgallery&Itemid=202)


(http://nattyornot.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/heath-arm-training-1.jpg)
this pic is slap on dorian face..look like shit...peak my assss.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: DroppingPlates on August 24, 2015, 12:22:46 AM
this pic is slap on dorian face..look like shit...peak my assss.

Nice try, but Doz was referring to conditioning
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Rajkapoor on August 24, 2015, 01:04:58 AM
Nice try, but Doz was referring to conditioning
Dorian,s 93 Olympia condition is the only thing he can be proud off.phill,s first 2 olympia can easily match that condition with extra size.too bad phill fell into size game to look worse.he looked like shit in his last Olympia.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Simple Simon on August 24, 2015, 01:07:36 AM
I agree with what you're saying but that last part is not true. In the world games Dorian Yates came in 7th. This was towards the beginning of his career though.
I think the world games was his second show.
He did a First timers at Ken Lathams show and got an invite to the World Games from the EFBB.
He learned from that show and said he would never be pressured into doing another show unless he thought he could win the whole thing.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Bevo on August 24, 2015, 01:57:10 AM
And only placed second twice. Once to Momo in his first pro show and the other to Haney in his first Olympia , his record is fucking insane when you think about it.

Dorians physique looks like shit in this pic
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Wiggs on August 24, 2015, 02:14:29 AM
Thanks Dorian, now Phil will definitely stick around for at least 7.  Phil is the kinda guy to take a comment like that and use it as fuel because even though Dorian is correct, it's pretty much a preemptive attack on Jay, Dexter and Phil.  Bad timing for Phil with the Olympia being a month away itll be interesting to see what he does or doesn't do.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Nether Animal on August 24, 2015, 04:27:40 AM
Dorian,s 93 Olympia condition is the only thing he can be proud off.

That's not even his best condition.... albeit probably the best overall package.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: falco on August 24, 2015, 05:43:34 AM
His stress induced cortisol levels will ramp up and screw Phil Heath conditioning.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: falco on August 24, 2015, 05:45:33 AM
phil heath, if you are reading this, you can be a nice guy but you suck at being Mr. Olympia.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Rascal full on August 24, 2015, 05:58:14 AM
I really hope this year that they don't just hand the title to Heath once again for political reasons. It throws the whole credibilty of the IFBB and the title out the window and leaves a sour taste in the mouth. Besides, the sport needs a fresh injection of excitement and drama to revitalise things and set tongues wagging. Come on IFBB have some balls and do something progressive this year. No more stagnation!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: robcguns on August 24, 2015, 06:17:52 AM
Doz was definitely the man as was Coleman and as far as I'm concerned are unmatched in most areas but phil looks awesome as well and is kicking as so while doz and Coleman can take shots at him,most cannot.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Royalty on August 24, 2015, 06:39:48 AM
1992.... back when guys would show up shredded
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Parker on August 24, 2015, 07:22:00 AM
Take away his arms and you can see just how unimpressive he is:


The same was said about Flex.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Yamcha on August 24, 2015, 07:22:26 AM
The same was said about Flex.

But Flex would still be shredded.  :-\
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Azure on August 24, 2015, 07:23:06 AM
I really hope this year that they don't just hand the title to Heath once again for political reasons. It throws the whole credibilty of the IFBB and the title out the window and leaves a sour taste in the mouth. Besides, the sport needs a fresh injection of excitement and drama to revitalise things and set tongues wagging. Come on IFBB have some balls and do something progressive this year. No more stagnation!

While I would agree in principle, if by their judging standards he is the best one what is supposed to happen? i think he's going to be in business for at least 2 more years. If I were him I would get out before he does himself further harm. I would also go do something that paid more money and had more credibility. Besides from what I've heard they've got some new guys coming up in the ranks that they will start to push since the old guard is starting to go down the tubes. So that will probably be your progression but that won't happen for a year or two

I know quite a few people skipping the show this year and who skipped it last year because they said they didn't want to attend a coronation

The IFBB is full of crap and has been for a long time

Personally after jay lost to dexter I thought there could be hope but then it went back to the same old garbage.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Parker on August 24, 2015, 07:25:34 AM
no way he could, phil doesnt have the menatlity or the will power to train like yates did, yates trained heavy with good form and full range of motion

yates ass fucked phil on side triceps, thighs, calves  and back.  


the worst yates ever placed in a show was 2nd
You'd have to give Phil the side triceps shot, because of Phil's triceps. Some of the best in the business.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Royalty on August 24, 2015, 07:26:20 AM
While I would agree in principle, if by their judging standards he is the best one what is supposed to happen? i think he's going to be in business for at least 2 more years. If I were him I would get out before he does himself further harm. I would also go do something that paid more money and had more credibility. Besides from what I've heard they've got some new guys coming up in the ranks that they will start to push since the old guard is starting to go down the tubes. So that will probably be your progression but that won't happen for a year or two

I know quite a few people skipping the show this year and who skipped it last year because they said they didn't want to attend a coronation

The IFBB is full of crap and has been for a long time

Personally after jay lost to dexter I thought there could be hope but then it went back to the same old garbage.

Jay was almost unbeatable in 2009.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 24, 2015, 07:33:11 AM
The same was said about Flex.

Same with Lee Priest, small chest compared to arms etc. That's why I always talk about the difference between symmetry and aesthetics. The so-called symmetrical guys didn't always have great symmetry, they just flowed in a pleasant way despite actually having relatively poor symmetry.
Old timers always cry about the lack of symmetry today but the guys today have way better symmetry in general, for example many guys used to lack legs. Many also feel a small waist is synonymous with great symmetry but if you think about it, it's just an aesthetic preference that's pretty subjective.

And if the O title was given to Wolf this year like many here would like... what about his lack of calves? His symmetry is fucked permanently.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Azure on August 24, 2015, 07:36:34 AM
Jay was almost unbeatable in 2009.

I guess. Never a fan of his stage physique....but you know what? At least he even tried to make it exciting by bringing his best package to date. I guess the audience got its money's worth in that regard but i am of the opinion that things went downhill So I'm not ever interested in attending. Even at the show I had to go last year I was so grossed out except for one competitor but to each his own
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: SF1900 on August 24, 2015, 07:37:19 AM
Same with Lee Priest, small chest compared to arms etc. That's why I always talk about the difference between symmetry and aesthetics. The so-called symmetrical guys didn't always have great symmetry, they just flowed in a pleasant way despite actually having relatively poor symmetry.
Old timers always cry about the lack of symmetry today but the guys today have way better symmetry in general, for example many guys used to lack legs. Many also feel a small waist is synonymous with great symmetry but if you think about it, it's just an aesthetic preference that's pretty subjective.

And if the O title was given to Wolf this year like many here would like... what about his lack of calves? His symmetry is fucked permanently.

Symmetry and aesthetics often go hand-in-hand.

What we perceive as aesthetic and beautiful, is often symmetrical.

Research has shown that faces that are perceived as most beautiful and aesthetic, have the greatest symmetry. Ears, eyes, nose, equally distant apart--everything aligned where it should be, etc.


Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Skorp1o on August 24, 2015, 07:38:46 AM
We shouldn't even compare Dorian and Ronnie to anyone else...unless it's between those two.

Phil heath would dissapear next to Dorian/Ronnie on stage. Look at the pic below, it's like Usain Bolt vs Shizzo in the 100m

Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Royalty on August 24, 2015, 07:46:26 AM
In the 90's guys like Shawn Ray & Kevin Levrone & Chris Cormier were fixtures in the top 6 at the Olympia.

Today we have Branch Warren.  ::)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: SF1900 on August 24, 2015, 07:50:42 AM
In the 90's guys like Shawn Ray & Kevin Levrone & Chris Cormier were fixtures in the top 6 at the Olympia.

Today we have Branch Warren.  ::)

 :-\ :-\

(http://www.bodybuilding.com/contest_media/18082/2/d/img_51461299365129.jpg)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Taffin on August 24, 2015, 07:55:14 AM
 :P
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: SaintAnger on August 24, 2015, 08:04:37 AM
Look at the top 10 of any Olympia from the 90s.  Even the worst guy who clearly didn't diet could have wiped the floor with the best guys of today.  Hell, even the Mr. USA and Nats Overall guys were of stellar stock. 

Today's lot are just fucking sorry both genetically and are drug abused.  Not a good combination.

I don't see what the debate is about here.

Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Royalty on August 24, 2015, 08:06:16 AM
Branch doesn't belong in the top 6

Period
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Redux on August 24, 2015, 08:10:38 AM
:P


Photoshop a turd enough and even it can look decent.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Azure on August 24, 2015, 08:10:59 AM
Dorian Yates and Ronnie Coleman ruined bodybuilding for ever.

You got that right.

I like Ronnie as a person and think he's hilarious but I am in full agreement that he and Yates ruined what was a thing of beauty. Similarly to the way Kim C and Iris ruined the female side. It was after that things went to hell. I guess you blame the judges but they kept sending the message that bigger is better and people followed suit. If horrible doesn't get rewarded then horrible won't win.

I think Phil would have looked a lot better had he competed in the 90's because dudes didn't have this poofy look which im assuming is caused by the insulin
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Taffin on August 24, 2015, 08:14:38 AM
Photoshop a turd enough and even it can look decent.

 :D

Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 24, 2015, 08:18:32 AM
I guess you blame the judges but they kept sending the message that bigger is better and people followed suit. If horrible doesn't get rewarded then horrible won't win.



Horrible? Even fucking Shawn Ray said Yates was the clear winner in 93 for example. Everyone who saw the black and white pics in 93 felt they had already lost the show, Yates was simply so dominant even if "ugly". It was sort of impossible to put him anywhere except first even if you thought he was "too big". Or Ronnie. What the fuck were the judges supposed to do in 1998? Think that Ronnie was sending a "poor message" by being too big and too ripped? All of us bb fans, even the ones who think the Golden Days were in the 80's would have done the same, had we been in the judges' seat.

This progression was not masterminded by some evil homo judges. It just sort of happened because how else do you judge a bb show, except by amount of ripped, symmetrical muscle? We may prefer Arnold but would we have put prime Arnold ahead of prime Yates or Coleman in a bb show? How would we justify it? By saying Yates and Coleman are too big and ripped and Arnold is the limit? There would also be no way for anyone to "compete" against a set limit in size and hardness. What are you going to do trying to win if you can't get bigger or harder?
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: dj181 on August 24, 2015, 08:29:17 AM
Same with Lee Priest, small chest compared to arms etc. That's why I always talk about the difference between symmetry and aesthetics. The so-called symmetrical guys didn't always have great symmetry, they just flowed in a pleasant way despite actually having relatively poor symmetry.
Old timers always cry about the lack of symmetry today but the guys today have way better symmetry in general, for example many guys used to lack legs. Many also feel a small waist is synonymous with great symmetry but if you think about it, it's just an aesthetic preference that's pretty subjective.

And if the O title was given to Wolf this year like many here would like... what about his lack of calves? His symmetry is fucked permanently.

you're mixing up symmetry with proportion bro

symmetry=left and right side of body match equally
proportion=each body part matches the other with no bodyparts better than others

the KING of proportion is right here  8)
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Van_Bilderass on August 24, 2015, 08:39:59 AM
you're mixing up symmetry with proportion bro

symmetry=left and right side of body match equally
proportion=each body part matches the other with no bodyparts better than others

the KING of proportion is right here  8)

 :D Well yeah I did, but symmetry is thought of as having no part overpowering another. At least that's how I think most think when talking symmetry. There is no proportion round in bb, but they are supposed to be looking at how everything matches, left to right, upper to lower, bodypart to bodypart.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Azure on August 24, 2015, 08:55:01 AM
Horrible? Even fucking Shawn Ray said Yates was the clear winner in 93 for example. Everyone who saw the black and white pics in 93 felt they had already lost the show, Yates was simply so dominant even if "ugly". It was sort of impossible to put him anywhere except first even if you thought he was "too big". Or Ronnie. What the fuck were the judges supposed to do in 1998? Think that Ronnie was sending a "poor message" by being too big and too ripped? All of us bb fans, even the ones who think the Golden Days were in the 80's would have done the same, had we been in the judges' seat.

This progression was not masterminded by some evil homo judges. It just sort of happened because how else do you judge a bb show, except by amount of ripped, symmetrical muscle? We may prefer Arnold but would we have put prime Arnold ahead of prime Yates or Coleman in a bb show? How would we justify it? By saying Yates and Coleman are too big and ripped and Arnold is the limit? There would also be no way for anyone to "compete" against a set limit in size and hardness. What are you going to do trying to win if you can't get bigger or harder?

In this endeavor the goal is always development so I guess this was inevitable but it looks terrible and isn't worth it IMO.  People always told me that they have to judge what is in front of them but I would have judged it down because I think it looks terrible.  Same with Female Bodybuilding. I would have judged it down because I don't think the development is worth the aesthetics but that's just me.  I would mark someone like Branch near the bottom because I think it looks a mess.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: indie-lad on August 24, 2015, 09:35:00 AM
Yup.  Best winning percentage as a pro?

I think he really does have the best winning percentage ever. Arnold is right up there with him as well.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: MORTALCOIL on August 24, 2015, 09:51:58 AM
Taking a shot at Phil is a ballsy move. You've got to be pretty accurate to hit.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Alucard on August 24, 2015, 10:28:10 AM
Yates and Coleman (judges mostly in reality) "destroyed" bodybuilding with how they progressed, or regressed... It's all good, in my opinion, if you are huge and ripped with a tight waist, sporting your weight well... That's how peak Yates was until 1994, and peak Coleman until 2000, and that is what counts here compared to The Shrimp and his laughable competition... They were already incredible, no needs to put on more and more mass, with a horrible distended stomach and torn bodyparts, that's were judges fucked up, rewarding them looking like that... Cutler was ok in 1999 still fresh, but mostly a horrible physique, a fridge with a minimum 50 inch waist, a side bigger than the other, oilbags arms and shoulders, should never ever win the Olympia, even if he looked somewhat decent in some of them, like 2009, but that's just me...
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 24, 2015, 03:47:18 PM
#TeamNarrow
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Royalty on August 24, 2015, 05:25:44 PM
#TeamNarrow

The first thing that I noticed in that pic: Yates' pecs look 3-times thicker than Phil's pecs

And; Phil's forearms suddenly don't look so big
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 24, 2015, 05:27:51 PM
Yeah Buddy Yip Yip
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Hypo on August 24, 2015, 06:23:17 PM
;D

Bodybuilding hit it's peak with him and Ronnie. Sorry Phil , Jay and Dex

I see Dorian has adopted Wiggs's skills in winning an argument. FACT!
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: hazbin on August 24, 2015, 06:49:19 PM
Yeah Buddy Yip Yip

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Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on August 24, 2015, 06:57:08 PM
.

Ouch lol  ;D  :-X
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Coffeed on August 24, 2015, 07:00:56 PM
Who is going to beat him?

Kai? Shit... I don't like the politics of bodybuilding, but I'm in favor of our "super bowl" winner not being an S&M sex dungeon mascot. Makes me feel bad for the youth who follow the "sport." So few left...
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Azure on August 24, 2015, 08:27:05 PM
Who is going to beat him?

Kai? Shit... I don't like the politics of bodybuilding, but I'm in favor of our "super bowl" winner not being an S&M sex dungeon mascot. Makes me feel bad for the youth who follow the "sport." So few left...

Well my friends seem to think these new group of guys coming up are going to start building their fan base come next season. A lot of the old guys are still hanging on but I'm sure as they fade out to black i guess the newbies will start to gain some steam.

I think Kai is generally more Likeable but I agree the s&m role play is too much. He should stick with the stripper stuff. that's more marketable and more enjoyable than the weird masks, whips, and chains.

Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Parker on August 24, 2015, 08:36:12 PM
Well my friends seem to think these new group of guys coming up are going to start building their fan base come next season. A lot of the old guys are still hanging on but I'm sure as they fade out to black i guess the newbies will start to gain some steam.

I think Kai is generally more Likeable but I agree the s&m role play is too much. He should stick with the stripper stuff. that's more marketable and more enjoyable than the weird masks, whips, and chains.


The new guys are not that impressive. Akim Williams needs to get in condition and back detail. Corey (Ronnie's younger brother) has good arms, chest, and a solid muscle base, but again, the conditioning and back detail. Kuclo can't find his conditioning even if was on fire. Neither can Brandon Curry. Cedric is hit or miss. That cat that won the wings of strength 212 division is promising. Roelly needs to make up his mind, he could be a serious threat. So could Big Ben. And there are others. Beyeke and Ramy seem promising...as they have height and weight on their sides.
I don't see Justin Compton and that other kid making that much of dent. He may win some smaller shows...again conditioning, plus Justin has this unhealthy look to him---too much too fast. Has legs the are too small for his upper body, and has the Wolf T-back.

All in all, the better bodybuilders are in MuscleMania and the men's physique Division, imagine that.
Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Azure on August 24, 2015, 08:45:49 PM
I think they should change the shorts in mpd..maybe to briefs because I have seen some amateur winners who have zero leg development. I don't follow the pro mens so maybe that's not an issue with them. In also an advocate of getting rid of the thongs.

All I can say is that after attending my first pro show in a few years last year, I was shocked at how bad people looked. Turtle tummies and just  :(

Whomever is in charge needs to get it together. Hire Phil a public relations consultant

Title: Re: Dorian Yates takes a shot at Phil Heath
Post by: Parker on August 24, 2015, 09:10:16 PM
I think they should change the shorts in mpd..maybe to briefs because I have seen some amateur winners who have zero leg development. I don't follow the pro mens so maybe that's not an issue with them. In also an advocate of getting rid of the thongs.

All I can say is that after attending my first pro show in a few years last year, I was shocked at how bad people looked. Turtle tummies and just  :(

Whomever is in charge needs to get it together. Hire Phil a public relations consultant


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