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As I approach my 50th birthday and am training regularly again, I find myself quite sore. I take 10mg glutamine and 5 g fish oil daily and do maybe `10 minutes dynamic and static stretching. Im just looking for input as to helping with the soreness. I realize there will be some, but Im pretty fucking sore. Dont say TRT, there is no way in hell I would ever take test for the rest of my life
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Ice bath. Do some research on it. Go on YouTube. All the mma guys do it.
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How much uninterrupted sleep do you get?
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How much uninterrupted sleep do you get?
a lot
over 8-9 hours i wake up once
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replace fish oil with canola oil.
much more healthy.
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replace fish oil with canola oil.
much more healthy.
at first I thought you were kidding, then I googled it. I never realized how healthy it is
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What's sore? Joints or muscles?
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What's sore? Joints or muscles?
muscles more so than joints
joints arent bad for an old man :D
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muscles more so than joints
joints arent bad for an old man :D
Then it's just rest and diet. As you get older the body's digestive system isn't as efficient. Smaller meals throughout the day. Just graze on protein rich food.
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muscles more so than joints
joints arent bad for an old man :D
foam roll
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Then it's just rest and diet. As you get older the body's digestive system isn't as efficient. Smaller meals throughout the day. Just graze on protein rich food.
I eat paleo, 29 days in now, love it
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As I approach my 50th birthday and am training regularly again, I find myself quite sore. I take 10mg glutamine and 5 g fish oil daily and do maybe `10 minutes dynamic and static stretching. Im just looking for input as to helping with the soreness. I realize there will be some, but Im pretty fucking sore. Dont say TRT, there is no way in hell I would ever take test for the rest of my life
Fish oil works best at much higher doses, lousy 5g while probably beneficial won't do much at all. Jack that right up to 20-30g, don't worry its safe.
Whenever u start up training you are always gonna be sore for couple weeks no matter what you do.
Obviously massage and hot baths can help.
L-Glucosamine and sugar free Jelly are good for joints.
I wouldn't just take Glutamine on its own, I would take it with the other BCCA and again up that to 20g a day, maybe more for you cos you are 300lb.
If you want to substantially increase your GH levels intermittent fasting works well for that.
Also eat tons of raw salad and vegetables.
Also take DIM your estrogen will be out of control at your weight no doubt.
If you do the Nevermore pic I will never talk to you again
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Fish oil works best at much higher doses, lousy 5g while probably beneficial won't do much at all. Jack that right up to 20-30g, don't worry its safe.
Whenever u start up training you are always gonna be sore for couple weeks no matter what you do.
Obviously massage and hot baths can help.
L-Glucosamine and sugar free Jelly are good for joints.
I wouldn't just take Glutamine on its own, I would take it with the other BCCA and again up that to 20g a day, maybe more for you cos you are 300lb.
If you want to substantially increase your GH levels intermittent fasting works well for that.
Also eat tons of raw salad and vegetables.
If you do the Nevermore pic I will never talk to you again
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Obviously I am gonna talk to you anyway ;D
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Obviously I am gonna talk to you anyway ;D
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I used to have a nutrition company that sponsored me.I got zippo from Glutamine and I experimented with a ton of different dosages.........of course I was on a ton of other shit also.
Just ride it out Josh..............I squatted today for the first time in ages.......I`ll be fucked for at least 3-4 days tops,but it`ll dissipate over time.
Just part and parcel with starting up training again after a layoff.
Vitamin C is great though..........megadose s 3 X a day...........at least 1 gram.
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can u at least do the raven pic with my face on it.
I like that
Oh and enough with this stupidity now I am guessing ur downer phase should have passed by now so can u start being normal again.
Thanks
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foam roll
whats that?
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Vitamin C is great though..........megadose s 3 X a day...........at least 1 gram.
OB1 approved.
Preferable natural.
Like from acerola fruits for example.
Official guidelines are vastly underdosed.
Vit C repairs everything.
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I used to have a nutrition company that sponsored me.I got zippo from Glutamine and I experimented with a ton of different dosages.........of course I was on a ton of other shit also.
Just ride it out Josh..............I squatted today for the first time in ages.......I`ll be fucked for at least 3-4 days tops,but it`ll dissipate over time.
Just part and parcel with starting up training again after a layoff.
Vitamin C is great though..........megadose s 3 X a day...........at least 1 gram.
interesting
I take absolutely no Vitamin C
I am going to the store today to get some
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interesting
I take absolutely no Vitamin C
I am going to the store today to get some
Just buy and eat several Kiwi's a day. You will get way more Vitamin C from that and the tabs.
I don't trust any processed shit.
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whats that?
There's much better vids out there, I just grabbed the first one with a female.......research more if you want but this works....especially on the legs....takes getting used to though - I'm at the point where I can use a baseball, pain free.
But do the whole leg - quad, hammy, sides, etc....
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interesting
I take absolutely no Vitamin C
I am going to the store today to get some
You need it daily bud,your body cannot manufacture it.
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There's much better vids out there, I just grabbed the first one with a female.......research more if you want but this works....especially on the legs....takes getting used to though - I'm at the point where I can use a baseball, pain free.
But do the whole leg - quad, hammy, sides, etc....
cool thanks
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You need it daily bud,your body cannot manufacture it.
thats interesting and makes sense for me cause I dont eat fruit at all cause of the paleo eating Im on. Plus I hate fruit anyways. Good advice gramps :D
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Hey Grape ape,how much does a fairly cheap foam roller cost?
As far as stretching goes,I do zero..........been saying I`m gonna` stretch after training for years,and for years I lied to myself.
I`m like the fucking Tin Man in The Wizard Of Oz....................fu cking tighter than a drum. :(
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Hey Grape ape,how much does a fairly cheap foam roller cost?
As far as stretching goes,I do zero..........been saying I`m gonna` stretch after training for years,and for years I lied to myself.
I`m like the fucking Tin Man in The Wizard Of Oz....................fu cking tighter than a drum. :(
just keep your anus loose 'no homo''
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thats interesting and makes sense for me cause I dont eat fruit at all cause of the paleo eating Im on. Plus I hate fruit anyways. Good advice gramps :D
Glad I could help sonny! LOL ;D
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Hey Grape ape,how much does a fairly cheap foam roller cost?
As far as stretching goes,I do zero..........been saying I`m gonna` stretch after training for years,and for years I lied to myself.
I`m like the fucking Tin Man in The Wizard Of Oz....................fu cking tighter than a drum. :(
20 bucks I'd say.......
But, if you really want to save, go to Home Depot and have them cut you a piece of 4 inch PVC pipe and wrap it with hockey tape.....will hurt like a bitch at first, but you'll gut through it.
This has worked wonders for me.....really believe in it.
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Fish oil works best at much higher doses, lousy 5g while probably beneficial won't do much at all. Jack that right up to 20-30g, don't worry its safe.
Whenever u start up training you are always gonna be sore for couple weeks no matter what you do.
Obviously massage and hot baths can help.
L-Glucosamine and sugar free Jelly are good for joints.
I wouldn't just take Glutamine on its own, I would take it with the other BCCA and again up that to 20g a day, maybe more for you cos you are 300lb.
If you want to substantially increase your GH levels intermittent fasting works well for that.
Also eat tons of raw salad and vegetables.
Also take DIM your estrogen will be out of control at your weight no doubt.
If you do the Nevermore pic I will never talk to you again
Fish oil at high dosage can fuck you up. Seriously. More is not better.
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just keep your anus loose 'no homo''
HEY..........watch your mouth convict! :D
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20 bucks I'd say.......
But, if you really want to save, go to Home Depot and have them cut you a piece of 4 inch PVC pipe and wrap it with hockey tape.....will hurt like a bitch at first, but you'll gut through it.
This has worked wonders for me.....really believe in it.
Thanks bud...........I wanna` try it out.
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20 bucks I'd say.......
But, if you really want to save, go to Home Depot and have them cut you a piece of 4 inch PVC pipe and wrap it with hockey tape.....will hurt like a bitch at first, but you'll gut through it.
This has worked wonders for me.....really believe in it.
Do you just lay on the roller and move your body back and forth over it?
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Do you just lay on the roller and move your body back and forth over it?
You can stop it on spots where you feel pain and just let it dig in there, or 'grind' it back and forth.....plenty of ways to do it....but first time you roll your IT band or quad with your full body weight on it, you'll know.
Picked another one with a chick:
I have this one:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51457IW-j1L._SL1024_.jpg)
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Charles Polequin advises up to 30g a day to be safe and effective.
I agree with him. People just don't take enough of the stuff usually
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You can stop it on spots where you feel pain and just let it dig in there, or 'grind' it back and forth.....plenty of ways to do it....but first time you roll your IT band or quad with your full body weight on it, you'll know.
Picked another one with a chick:
I have this one:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51457IW-j1L._SL1024_.jpg)
gawd damn with pvc pipe and hockey tape that must hurt like a a bitch
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You can stop it on spots where you feel pain and just let it dig in there, or 'grind' it back and forth.....plenty of ways to do it....but first time you roll your IT band or quad with your full body weight on it, you'll know.
Just googled a few on youtube. now I need to crack one off.
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Just googled a few on youtube. now I need to crack one off.
cant believe it took this long for a crack one off to the foam chick reply :D :D :D
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I'm no expert... but I know that 10 minutes of stretching does fuck all. After one hour of stretching I have just warmed up to do actual stretching. Stretching is like molding steel, it has to be red hot before you can even start.
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Charles Polequin advises up to 30g a day to be safe and effective.
I agree with him. People just don't take enough of the stuff usually
Oh no.
I have to agree with you. :-X
30-50g high quality canola oil does the trick.
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Oh no.
I have to agree with you. :-X
30-50g high quality canola oil does trick.
voulez-vous couchez avec moi, ce soir? ::)
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a lot
over 8-9 hours i wake up once
Sleeping is not the issue, you just have to train more sensibly, and rest longer.....good luck, big J. ;)
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I'm no expert... but I know that 10 minutes of stretching does fuck all. After one hour of stretching I have just warmed up to do actual stretching. [/b]Stretching is like molding steel, it has to be red hot before you can even start.
Nice I like that
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Sleeping is not the issue, you just have to train more sensibly, and rest longer.....good luck, big J. ;)
thanks
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gawd damn with pvc pipe and hockey tape that must hurt like a a bitch
First couple of times then you get use to it....after my surgery for my torn bi and labrum they had me do it as part of my therapy.
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First couple of times then you get use to it....after my surgery for my torn bi and labrum they had me do it as part of my therapy.
did it correct your horrid slice to the right? :D :D :D :P
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Charles Polequin advises up to 30g a day to be safe and effective.
I agree with him. People just don't take enough of the stuff usually
Poliquin is a complete retard these days, just full of shit.
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Josh,if you go to Wal-Mart you can usually get Vit. C buy one get one free...................5 00 mgs. per tab..........take two pills 3 X a day spaced out in intervals.
It`s water soluble so you piss it out..............that`s one reason it has to be replenished daily.
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Josh,if you go to Wal-Mart you can usually get Vit. C buy one get one free...................5 00 mgs. per tab..........take two pills 3 X a day spaced out in intervals.
It`s water soluble so you piss it out..............that`s one reason it has to be replenished daily.
made my Mom go get me all the supps I needed today :D :D :D
in b4 mommas boy
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did it correct your horrid slice to the right? :D :D :D :P
OUCH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 :D
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did it correct your horrid slice to the right? :D :D :D :P
You mother f... >:(
then again my first t-shot on one yesterday was a bad slice that somehow stayed in bounds.
put the next in a greenside bunker then got up and down for par :)
lately my miss has been to the right...supposedly better then a hook.
....when I first started plying again was some of the best golf I ever played....guess I was swinging easy trying not to hurt myself.
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made my Mom go get me all the supps I needed today :D :D :D
in b4 mommas boy
Stay on point bro! LOL ;D
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Stay on point bro! LOL ;D
........................ ........................ .............. >:(
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You know I`m just fucking with you. :D
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You know I`m just fucking with you. :D
........................ ........................ . :-*
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Fish oil works best at much higher doses, lousy 5g while probably beneficial won't do much at all. Jack that right up to 20-30g, don't worry its safe.
Whenever u start up training you are always gonna be sore for couple weeks no matter what you do.
Obviously massage and hot baths can help.
L-Glucosamine and sugar free Jelly are good for joints.
I wouldn't just take Glutamine on its own, I would take it with the other BCCA and again up that to 20g a day, maybe more for you cos you are 300lb.
If you want to substantially increase your GH levels intermittent fasting works well for that.
Also eat tons of raw salad and vegetables.
Also take DIM your estrogen will be out of control at your weight no doubt.
If you do the Nevermore pic I will never talk to you again
30 grams of rancid fish oil....great way to elevate your transaminases even further you estrogen laden phaggot
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I eat paleo, 29 days in now, love it
will cause constipation, intestinal problems and spotty skin aka age spots and dryness cracking skin
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Fish oil works best at much higher doses, lousy 5g while probably beneficial won't do much at all. Jack that right up to 20-30g, don't worry its safe.
Whenever u start up training you are always gonna be sore for couple weeks no matter what you do.
Obviously massage and hot baths can help.
L-Glucosamine and sugar free Jelly are good for joints.
I wouldn't just take Glutamine on its own, I would take it with the other BCCA and again up that to 20g a day, maybe more for you cos you are 300lb.
If you want to substantially increase your GH levels intermittent fasting works well for that.
Also eat tons of raw salad and vegetables.
Also take DIM your estrogen will be out of control at your weight no doubt.
If you do the Nevermore pic I will never talk to you again
Please don't give advice.
You are suggesting he take 270kcal/day in fish oil alone before the other stuff?
Anyway, I'm 31 and already feel crocked. I'm resolved to train less (which for me is going to 5 days/week) but if I have a persistent agonising pain (I'm scabby with money so that's my benchmark) I go to physio - could be something worse/needing different treatment.
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proelyctic enzymes are incredible and really help recovery
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will cause constipation, intestinal problems and spotty skin aka age spots and dryness cracking skin
oh brother, my naturopath got me on paleo because I had bowel and intestine problems and it cured them right up. Youre a good guy, but you really are pretty clueless
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voulez-vous couchez avec moi, ce soir? ::)
oui oui, mademoiselle ;)
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As I approach my 50th birthday and am training regularly again, I find myself quite sore. I take 10mg glutamine and 5 g fish oil daily and do maybe `10 minutes dynamic and static stretching. Im just looking for input as to helping with the soreness. I realize there will be some, but Im pretty fucking sore. Dont say TRT, there is no way in hell I would ever take test for the rest of my life
5 grams of total fish oil or 5 grams combined epa/dha?
What brand and form are you using?
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5 grams of total fish oil or 5 grams combined epa/dha?
What brand and form are you using?
5 grams total fish oil
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5 grams total fish oil
Serving Size: 5 ml
Servings per Container: 50
Amount Per Serving
% Daily Value *
Fish Oil
(anchovy, mackerel and sardine body oil) 4.55 g
Omega-3 1500 mg
EPA 750 mg
DHA - See more at: https://www.vitamart.ca/karlenes-sea-licious.html#sthash.a0UuRA3g.dpuf
Try taking that 5 gram dose 3x a day. Doing so would give u 3.8 grams combined eph/dha
Spread out at least 3 hours apart with meals
Dr john berardi used to recommend 7-10 grams combined epa/dha
He now recommends 3-6 grams combined epa/dha
Both of the two higher doses above are Poliquin doses as well
Id recommend at least 3g epa/dha
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Serving Size: 5 ml
Servings per Container: 50
Amount Per Serving
% Daily Value *
Fish Oil
(anchovy, mackerel and sardine body oil) 4.55 g
Omega-3 1500 mg
EPA 750 mg
DHA - See more at: https://www.vitamart.ca/karlenes-sea-licious.html#sthash.a0UuRA3g.dpuf
Try taking that 5 gram dose 3x a day. Doing so would give u 3.8 grams combined eph/dha
Spread out at least 3 hours apart with meals
Dr john berardi used to recommend 7-10 grams combined epa/dha
He now recommends 3-6 grams combined epa/dha
Both of the two higher doses above are Poliquin doses as well
Id recommend at least 3g epa/dha
I will do that
thanks for the advice :)
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proelyctic enzymes are incredible and really help recovery
More like, Proteolytic.
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I am not going to argue with any idiots or morons who refuse to accept the fact that fish oil is ONLY truly beneficial when megadosed.
Instead you can google Charles Polliquin & Fish Oil and read his articles on the subject where he advocates up to 30g a day.
Who do u wanna listen to Charles muther -fucking Polliquin or a bunch of tards on the internet?
Fucking laughable the gaul of some people on here
tut tut, fuck me a slut.
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I am not going to argue with any idiots or morons who refuse to accept the fact that fish oil is ONLY truly beneficial when megadosed.
Instead you can google Charles Polliquin & Fish Oil and read his articles on the subject where he advocates up to 30g a day.
Who do u wanna listen to Charles muther -fucking Polliquin or a bunch of tards on the internet?
Fucking laughable the gaul of some people on here
tut tut, fuck me a slut.
Charles is talking about total grams of fish oil not combined epa/dha
Fish oil caps werent very potent when he made that claim
Now you can buy far more concentrated epa/dha in upwards of 60+%
No need to dose 30 grams unless your buying cheap capsules
If i remember correctly, he did not advocate 30 grams year round
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I am not going to argue with any idiots or morons who refuse to accept the fact that fish oil is ONLY truly beneficial when megadosed.
He's right.
But not about fish oil.
I talk high quality cold-pressed canola oil.
Just give it a try.
30g+ daily.
A few days.
Then stop.
You will notice a major difference.
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Hey Grape ape,how much does a fairly cheap foam roller cost?
As far as stretching goes,I do zero..........been saying I`m gonna` stretch after training for years,and for years I lied to myself.
I`m like the fucking Tin Man in The Wizard Of Oz....................fu cking tighter than a drum. :(
20 bucks I'd say.......
But, if you really want to save, go to Home Depot and have them cut you a piece of 4 inch PVC pipe and wrap it with hockey tape.....will hurt like a bitch at first, but you'll gut through it.
This has worked wonders for me.....really believe in it.
You should be able to get a "beginner" white Styrofoam roller at any sports place for about $20. The price goes up from there the denser they are (white, blue, black...). The PVC thing works too, but obviously that's really dense and could cause tissue damage if you don't know what you're doing. It's VERY important to foam roll AFTER you're warmed up, so either do it after some cardio warm up or after a workout. Do not attack a cold muscle! Ease into it. Also, it's best not to roll back & forth like a pie crust, but rather, roll SLOWLY in one direction and then roll back the other direction.
http://blog.nasm.org/training-benefits/foam-rolling-applying-the-technique-of-self-myofascial-release/
(http://blog.nasm.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Figure4.jpg)
(http://www.ableforlife.com/Foam%20Roller.jpg)
(http://mariasmovers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/foam-roller.jpg)
(http://www.innatebodybootcamp.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AXIS-Foam-Roller.jpg)
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Exactly what Grape Ape said except I'll post examples with dudes
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oh brother, my naturopath got me on paleo because I had bowel and intestine problems and it cured them right up. Youre a good guy, but you really are pretty clueless
Crapp and nonsense.........says Dr Dutch
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Crapp and nonsense.........says Dr Dutch
that crap and nonsense got rid of my IBS and made my intestines 100x better
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You should be able to get a "beginner" white Styrofoam roller at any sports place for about $20. The price goes up from there the denser they are (white, blue, black...). The PVC thing works too, but obviously that's really dense and could cause tissue damage if you don't know what you're doing. It's VERY important to foam roll AFTER you're warmed up, so either do it after some cardio warm up or after a workout. Do not attack a cold muscle! Ease into it. Also, it's best not to roll back & forth like a pie crust, but rather, roll SLOWLY in one direction and then roll back the other direction.
http://blog.nasm.org/training-benefits/foam-rolling-applying-the-technique-of-self-myofascial-release/
(http://blog.nasm.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Figure4.jpg)
(http://www.ableforlife.com/Foam%20Roller.jpg)
(http://mariasmovers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/foam-roller.jpg)
(http://www.innatebodybootcamp.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/AXIS-Foam-Roller.jpg)
Thanks Princess! :)
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that crap and nonsense got rid of my IBS and made my intestines 100x better
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Fish oils really good for your fucking brain i hear
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that crap and nonsense got rid of my IBS and made my intestines 100x better
Good for you ! Long live Placebo Power.
No wonder a few billion people believe there is a God and that praying helps.....more power to them too !!
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Good for you ! Long live Placebo Power.
No wonder a few billion people believe there is a God and that praying helps.....more power to them too !!
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yes placebo power
changing my eating habits and supplement intake is placebo power
I pegged you for smarter to be honest
ps-there is no such thing as God and praying is someones idea of a joke gone bad
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again:
vegetable oil (preferably cold-pressed canola oil) > crap > fish oil.
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that crap and nonsense got rid of my IBS and made my intestines 100x better
Same here.
Doctors think they know everything. While they know 10^6 more about the human body than the usual bystander it is not possible to explain away results which diverge from the norm.
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I will do that
thanks for the advice :)
Don't waste your money on this shit.....just train hard and eat normally....just a bit more.
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Same here.
Doctors think they know everything. While they know 10^6 more about the human body than the usual bystander it is not possible to explain away results which diverge from the norm.
I am a doctor.....I know everything.
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I eat paleo, 29 days in now, love it
Josh, can you recommend a good site that you use(d) to research Paleo?
I need to start eating a bit cleaner and drop 5 lbs. (Paleo, Mediterranean Diet, etc)...
There are a ton of sites out there, just looking to see if you found any good ones that you like...
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I'm older than you and I rarely get sore. I guess I have just been training for too many decades. I know people new to training or coming back from a long break can get almost incapacitated by muscle soreness.
Are you taking a statin for cholesterol like Lipitor. They do break down muscle for some and cause muscle pain. Add lifting to those susceptible and you got major muscle damage that can also cause kidney problems.
I'm not a doctor.
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Josh, can you recommend a good site that you use(d) to research Paleo?
I need to start eating a bit cleaner and drop 5 lbs. (Paleo, Mediterranean Diet, etc)...
There are a ton of sites out there, just looking to see if you found any good ones that you like...
BigChiroFlex advocates this diet.....that is all you need to know.
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Josh, can you recommend a good site that you use(d) to research Paleo?
I need to start eating a bit cleaner and drop 5 lbs. (Paleo, Mediterranean Diet, etc)...
There are a ton of sites out there, just looking to see if you found any good ones that you like...
I didnt really focus on any one site cause I eat so simple
chicken/asparagus/zucchini/romaine lettuce/90% dark chocolate (treat)/sweet potato (small one once every couple days)
thats really all I eat--Im allergic to a shitload or stuff so I have to keep it simple
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Copy and paste from bodybuilding.com
Canola is an industrial garbage oil, originally intended as a machine lubricant. It comes from an engineered form of rapeseed which has had its erucic acid (highly toxic and unpalatable) removed. The process of extracting the oil generates so much heat that it turns the canola rancid, which then requires a deodorization process.
Canola-
It is rapeseed stripped of euric acid.
It is considered by some docters as heart healthy because of the omega 3 content but the way its processed takes it above 500 degrees celsius which could mean that a large portion of the good fats are rancid. Its an extremely processed oil.
It's actually not that high in PUFA, and is in fact mostly MUFA like olive oil, but what PUFA's you're getting are rancid. Even fresh, healthy PUFAs from fish and nuts put you at some risk of oxidative tissue damage, but the fat from canola, corn, and soybean oil has already oxidized before it even enters your body. Canola is just overproduced industrial waste being peddled as cheap food.
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Copy and paste from bodybuilding.com
Canola is an industrial garbage oil, originally intended as a machine lubricant. It comes from an engineered form of rapeseed which has had its erucic acid (highly toxic and unpalatable) removed. The process of extracting the oil generates so much heat that it turns the canola rancid, which then requires a deodorization process.
Canola-
It is rapeseed stripped of euric acid.
It is considered by some docters as heart healthy because of the omega 3 content but the way its processed takes it above 500 degrees celsius which could mean that a large portion of the good fats are rancid. Its an extremely processed oil.
It's actually not that high in PUFA, and is in fact mostly MUFA like olive oil, but what PUFA's you're getting are rancid. Even fresh, healthy PUFAs from fish and nuts put you at some risk of oxidative tissue damage, but the fat from canola, corn, and soybean oil has already oxidized before it even enters your body. Canola is just overproduced industrial waste being peddled as cheap food.
BS.
Cold-pressed canola oil is the best oil you can get.
This one's the best i ever had.
http://www.teutoburger-oelmuehle.com/productinformation.html
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It was recently discovered that humans have been eating grains for at least 32,000 years.
"Paleo" ::)
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It was recently discovered that humans have been eating grains for at least 32,000 years.
"Paleo" ::)
doesnt paleo refer to A LOT longer ago than that?
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I used to have a nutrition company that sponsored me.I got zippo from Glutamine and I experimented with a ton of different dosages.........of course I was on a ton of other shit also.
Just ride it out Josh..............I squatted today for the first time in ages.......I`ll be fucked for at least 3-4 days tops,but it`ll dissipate over time.
Just part and parcel with starting up training again after a layoff.
Vitamin C is great though..........megadose s 3 X a day...........at least 1 gram.
Can't be arsed reading 4 pages but what do you get from high vit C dose and what form of intake?
I felt immeasurably better on holiday taking fresh fruit regularly but that was an island off north Africa. Ireland has a shit climate for citric fruits and they are equally shit in markets/shops due to climate.
I low dose deca for joints but if I wasn't such a stubborn cu nt I'd say train less, think about weights and exercises used - what is the aggravating factor?
I get same issue as OP (and take plentiful fish oil)
O/T on paleo thing they reckon brain couldn't function without adequate carbs to fuel it so paleo could not be be all and end all diet. I personally gained muscle lost fat by lowering overall cals, lowering protein and upping carbs.
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doesnt paleo refer to A LOT longer ago than that?
Maybe but it only takes a few hundred generations tops for major evolutionary development.
So the notion that we "aren't adapted" to eating grains is nonsense.
Average lifespan in pre-historic times was ~ 30 years so I'm not sure why people think eating what they ate is such a good idea.
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Can't be arsed reading 4 pages but what do you get from high vit C dose and what form of intake?
I felt immeasurably better on holiday taking fresh fruit regularly but that was an island off north Africa. Ireland has a shit climate for citric fruits and they are equally shit in markets/shops due to climate.
I low dose deca for joints but if I wasn't such a stubborn cu nt I'd say train less, think about weights and exercises used - what is the aggravating factor?
I get same issue as OP (and take plentiful fish oil)
O/T on paleo thing they reckon brain couldn't function without adequate carbs to fuel it so paleo could not be be all and end all diet. I personally gained muscle lost fat by lowering overall cals, lowering protein and upping carbs.
I take 3 grams spaced throughout the day..................... it seems to help a bit,of course I`m on gear so it`s hard to tell.
your body can`t manufacture it so it seems to me like good insurance.
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Maybe but it only takes a few hundred generations tops for major evolutionary development.
So the notion that we "aren't adapted" to eating grains is nonsense.
Average lifespan in pre-historic times was ~ 30 years so I'm not sure why people think eating what they ate is such a good idea.
absolutely great point :D
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From what I read in this thread,Josh` diet seems almost like a pre-contest diet.
Very clean eating............should work great over time.
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From what I read in this thread,Josh` diet seems almost like a pre-contest diet.
Very clean eating............should work great over time.
hmmmm what kind of contest? :D
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I take 3 grams spaced throughout the day..................... it seems to help a bit,of course I`m on gear so it`s hard to tell.
your body can`t manufacture it so it seems to me like good insurance.
I take 2 x 1g fish oils with every meal (so 8g/day) as I don't eat fish (hence supplement). Been leaner since but also stable diet etc so hard to isolate things.
I read a study recently where, to break it down, what we don't eat, as opposed to what we do, is really killing us. IE not eating fruit, nuts, seeds, pulses. Added all since and stools improved ;D ;D ;D
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hmmmm what kind of contest? :D
The contest against yourself my friend. ;)
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I take 2 x 1g fish oils with every meal (so 8g/day) as I don't eat fish (hence supplement). Been leaner since but also stable diet etc so hard to isolate things.
I read a study recently where, to break it down, what we don't eat, as opposed to what we do, is really killing us. IE not eating fruit, nuts, seeds, pulses. Added all since and stools improved ;D ;D ;D
I`ve never tried fish oils........I might give them a shot.
i do however take a Tbsp. of olive a few times a week for joint lubrication (bro science),and Osteo Bi-Flex for my joints.........stuff works great,took away a lot of joint pain/issues for me.
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In my experience you generally consume too less high quality vegetable fats.
Once hooked up on decent amounts like 30g + daily you generally never go back.
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In my experience you generally consume too less high quality vegetable fats.
Once hooked up on decent amounts like 30g + daily you generally never go back.
Won`t they add a lot of excess calories.
I`m a firm beleiver that we get adequate fat from the foods we eat even when eating extremely clean.
I take the olive oil for my joints.
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Won`t they add a lot of excess calories.
I`m a firm beleiver that we get adequate fat from the foods we eat even when eating extremely clean.
I take the olive oil for my joints.
Im a firm believer that you are old :D :D :D
oh wait so am I :-\ :-\ :-\
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Won`t they add a lot of excess calories.
I`m a firm beleiver that we get adequate fat from the foods we eat even when eating extremely clean.
I take the olive oil for my joints.
Of course it will add calories.
Simply eat less carbs when dieting.
I think we comsume too less fat.
And too much simpe carbs.
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Im a firm believer that you are old :D :D :D
oh wait so am I :-\ :-\ :-\
you`re still a kid to me son! :D
But you are getting up there.
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I didnt really focus on any one site cause I eat so simple
chicken/asparagus/zucchini/romaine lettuce/90% dark chocolate (treat)/sweet potato (small one once every couple days)
thats really all I eat--Im allergic to a shitload or stuff so I have to keep it simple
Cool, thx...
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you`re still a kid to me son! :D
But you are getting up there.
put a sock in it old chap
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The body needs atleast 300 to 400grams of fat perday atleast
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The body needs atleast 300 to 400grams of fat perday atleast
I challenge you to an online skype debate regarding physics.
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100 grams of protein, lots of healthy fats and slow carbs........will build you up like Arnold. :)
After a heavy workout 50 grams of fast carbs plus 30 extra grams of wey...
That's all you need.....plus stamina. Save your money for nicer things.
says Dr Dutch
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100 grams of protein, lots of healthy fats and slow carbs........will build you up like Arnold. :)
After a heavy workout 50 grams of fast carbs plus 30 extra grams of wey...
That's all you need.....plus stamina. Save your money for nicer things.
says Dr Dutch
I agree.