Glutamine, Fish Oil and Stretching

[Marty Champions]

Fish oils really good for your fucking brain i hear

[Dr Dutch]

that crap and nonsense got rid of my IBS and made my intestines 100x better

Good for you ! Long live Placebo Power.
No wonder a few billion people believe there is a God and that praying helps.....more power to them too !!
 

[Set It Up]

Good for you ! Long live Placebo Power.
No wonder a few billion people believe there is a God and that praying helps.....more power to them too !!
 

yes placebo power
changing my eating habits and supplement intake is placebo power

I pegged you for smarter to be honest

ps-there is no such thing as God and praying is someones idea of a joke gone bad

[OB1]

again:
vegetable oil (preferably cold-pressed canola oil) > crap > fish oil.

[_bruce_]

that crap and nonsense got rid of my IBS and made my intestines 100x better

Same here.
Doctors think they know everything. While they know 10^6 more about the human body than the usual bystander it is not possible to explain away results which diverge from the norm.

[Dr Dutch]

I will do that

thanks for the advice 

Don't waste your money on this shit.....just train hard and eat normally....just a bit more.

[Dr Dutch]

Same here.
Doctors think they know everything. While they know 10^6 more about the human body than the usual bystander it is not possible to explain away results which diverge from the norm.

I am a doctor.....I know everything.

[Powerlift66]

I eat paleo, 29 days in now, love it

Josh, can you recommend a good site that you use(d) to research Paleo?
I need to start eating a bit cleaner and drop 5 lbs. (Paleo, Mediterranean Diet, etc)...

There are a ton of sites out there, just looking to see if you found any good ones that you like...

[oldtimer1]

I'm older than you and I rarely get sore. I guess I have just been training for too many decades. I know people new to training or coming back from a long break can get almost incapacitated by muscle soreness.

Are you taking a statin for cholesterol like Lipitor. They do break down muscle for some and cause muscle pain. Add lifting to those susceptible and you got major muscle damage that can also cause kidney problems.

I'm not a doctor.

[Grape Ape]

Josh, can you recommend a good site that you use(d) to research Paleo?
I need to start eating a bit cleaner and drop 5 lbs. (Paleo, Mediterranean Diet, etc)...

There are a ton of sites out there, just looking to see if you found any good ones that you like...

BigChiroFlex advocates this diet.....that is all you need to know.

[Set It Up]

Josh, can you recommend a good site that you use(d) to research Paleo?
I need to start eating a bit cleaner and drop 5 lbs. (Paleo, Mediterranean Diet, etc)...

There are a ton of sites out there, just looking to see if you found any good ones that you like...

I didnt really focus on any one site cause I eat so simple

chicken/asparagus/zucchini/romaine lettuce/90% dark chocolate (treat)/sweet potato (small one once every couple days)

thats really all I eat--Im allergic to a shitload or stuff so I have to keep it simple

[BlackMetallic]

Copy and paste from bodybuilding.com

Canola is an industrial garbage oil, originally intended as a machine lubricant. It comes from an engineered form of rapeseed which has had its erucic acid (highly toxic and unpalatable) removed. The process of extracting the oil generates so much heat that it turns the canola rancid, which then requires a deodorization process.

Canola-
It is rapeseed stripped of euric acid.
It is considered by some docters as heart healthy because of the omega 3 content but the way its processed takes it above 500 degrees celsius which could mean that a large portion of the good fats are rancid. Its an extremely processed oil.

It's actually not that high in PUFA, and is in fact mostly MUFA like olive oil, but what PUFA's you're getting are rancid. Even fresh, healthy PUFAs from fish and nuts put you at some risk of oxidative tissue damage, but the fat from canola, corn, and soybean oil has already oxidized before it even enters your body. Canola is just overproduced industrial waste being peddled as cheap food.

[OB1]

Copy and paste from bodybuilding.com

Canola is an industrial garbage oil, originally intended as a machine lubricant. It comes from an engineered form of rapeseed which has had its erucic acid (highly toxic and unpalatable) removed. The process of extracting the oil generates so much heat that it turns the canola rancid, which then requires a deodorization process.

Canola-
It is rapeseed stripped of euric acid.
It is considered by some docters as heart healthy because of the omega 3 content but the way its processed takes it above 500 degrees celsius which could mean that a large portion of the good fats are rancid. Its an extremely processed oil.

It's actually not that high in PUFA, and is in fact mostly MUFA like olive oil, but what PUFA's you're getting are rancid. Even fresh, healthy PUFAs from fish and nuts put you at some risk of oxidative tissue damage, but the fat from canola, corn, and soybean oil has already oxidized before it even enters your body. Canola is just overproduced industrial waste being peddled as cheap food.

BS.
Cold-pressed canola oil is the best oil you can get.

This one's the best i ever had.
http://www.teutoburger-oelmuehle.com/productinformation.html

[Hulkotron]

It was recently discovered that humans have been eating grains for at least 32,000 years.

"Paleo"

[Set It Up]

It was recently discovered that humans have been eating grains for at least 32,000 years.

"Paleo"

doesnt paleo refer to A LOT longer ago than that?

[Lustral]

I used to have a nutrition company that sponsored me.I got zippo from Glutamine and I experimented with a ton of different dosages.........of course I was on a ton of other shit also.


Just ride it out Josh..............I squatted today for the first time in ages.......I`ll be fucked for at least 3-4 days tops,but it`ll dissipate over time.


Just part and parcel with starting up training again after a layoff.


Vitamin C is great though..........megadose s 3 X a day...........at least 1 gram.

Can't be arsed reading 4 pages but what do you get from high vit C dose and what form of intake?

I felt immeasurably better on holiday taking fresh fruit regularly but that was an island off north Africa. Ireland has a shit climate for citric fruits and they are equally shit in markets/shops due to climate.

I low dose deca for joints but if I wasn't such a stubborn cu nt I'd say train less, think about weights and exercises used - what is the aggravating factor?

I get same issue as OP (and take plentiful fish oil)


O/T on paleo thing they reckon brain couldn't function without adequate carbs to fuel it so paleo could not be be all and end all diet. I personally gained muscle lost fat by lowering overall cals, lowering protein and upping carbs.

[Hulkotron]

doesnt paleo refer to A LOT longer ago than that?

Maybe but it only takes a few hundred generations tops for major evolutionary development.

So the notion that we "aren't adapted" to eating grains is nonsense.

Average lifespan in pre-historic times was ~ 30 years so I'm not sure why people think eating what they ate is such a good idea.

[wes]

Can't be arsed reading 4 pages but what do you get from high vit C dose and what form of intake?

I felt immeasurably better on holiday taking fresh fruit regularly but that was an island off north Africa. Ireland has a shit climate for citric fruits and they are equally shit in markets/shops due to climate.

I low dose deca for joints but if I wasn't such a stubborn cu nt I'd say train less, think about weights and exercises used - what is the aggravating factor?

I get same issue as OP (and take plentiful fish oil)


O/T on paleo thing they reckon brain couldn't function without adequate carbs to fuel it so paleo could not be be all and end all diet. I personally gained muscle lost fat by lowering overall cals, lowering protein and upping carbs.

I take 3 grams spaced throughout the day..................... it seems to help a bit,of course I`m on gear so it`s hard to tell.

your body can`t manufacture it so it seems to me like good insurance.

[Set It Up]

Maybe but it only takes a few hundred generations tops for major evolutionary development.

So the notion that we "aren't adapted" to eating grains is nonsense.

Average lifespan in pre-historic times was ~ 30 years so I'm not sure why people think eating what they ate is such a good idea.

absolutely great point 

[wes]

From what I read in this thread,Josh` diet seems almost like a pre-contest diet.

Very clean eating............should work great over time.

[Set It Up]

From what I read in this thread,Josh` diet seems almost like a pre-contest diet.

Very clean eating............should work great over time.

hmmmm what kind of contest? 

[Lustral]

I take 3 grams spaced throughout the day..................... it seems to help a bit,of course I`m on gear so it`s hard to tell.

your body can`t manufacture it so it seems to me like good insurance.

I take 2 x 1g fish oils with every meal (so 8g/day) as I don't eat fish (hence supplement). Been leaner since but also stable diet etc so hard to isolate things.

I read a study recently where, to break it down, what we don't eat, as opposed to what we do, is really killing us. IE not eating fruit, nuts, seeds, pulses. Added all since and stools improved  

[wes]

hmmmm what kind of contest? 

The contest against yourself my friend. 

[wes]

I take 2 x 1g fish oils with every meal (so 8g/day) as I don't eat fish (hence supplement). Been leaner since but also stable diet etc so hard to isolate things.

I read a study recently where, to break it down, what we don't eat, as opposed to what we do, is really killing us. IE not eating fruit, nuts, seeds, pulses. Added all since and stools improved 

I`ve never tried fish oils........I might give them a shot.

i do however take a Tbsp. of olive a few times a week for joint lubrication (bro science),and Osteo Bi-Flex for my joints.........stuff works great,took away a lot of joint pain/issues for me.

[OB1]

In my experience you generally consume too less high quality vegetable fats.
Once hooked up on decent amounts like 30g + daily you generally never go back.