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Like in most training videos, you see them doing lots of warmup sets ramping up in weight each set to do maybe only 1 working set to near failure, sometimes 2. I don't get it? I don't see how that's training hard.
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Like in most training videos, you see them doing lots of warmup sets ramping up in weight each set to do maybe only 1 working set to near failure, sometimes 2. I don't get it? I don't see how that's training hard.
No need to train hard.
Steroids will build muscle even if you don't train.
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Like in most training videos, you see them doing lots of warmup sets ramping up in weight each set to do maybe only 1 working set to near failure, sometimes 2. I don't get it? I don't see how that's training hard.
That is the hardest training style there is. If you are capable of doing more than 1 working set you are not working hard enough. 1 working set is all that's needed.
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That is the hardest training style there is. If you are capable of doing more than 1 working set you are not working hard enough. 1 working set is all that's needed.
Not true at all. The only way you can be maxed out after 1 working set is if you do a 1 rep maximum. If you can complete a working set of 8 reps to failure, you can definitely do another set of 6 with the same weight after that, and then a set after that with the same weight of at least 4 or 5, and then a set after that of 2 or 3 reps. You can go far before your muscle is absolutely fatigued and thats when you can't complete 1 rep of a certain weight.
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That is the hardest training style there is. If you are capable of doing more than 1 working set you are not working hard enough. 1 working set is all that's needed.
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Not true at all. The only way you can be maxed out after 1 working set is if you do a 1 rep maximum. If you can complete a working set of 8 reps to failure, you can definitely do another set of 6 with the same weight after that, and then a set after that with the same weight of at least 4 or 5, and then a set after that of 2 or 3 reps. You can go far before your muscle is absolutely fatigued and thats when you can't complete 1 rep of a certain weight.
You go beyond failure in the working set. That is the point. This is a common practice and you should be familiar with it already.
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You go beyond failure in the working set. That is the point. This is a common practice and you should be familiar with it already.
Don't care how beyond failure you go in one set. If you cannot do another rep 3 minutes later you are mentally weak, not physically.
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"Pro's," but not "set's"?
Where's the consistency?
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Like in most training videos, you see them doing lots of warmup sets ramping up in weight each set to do maybe only 1 working set to near failure, sometimes 2. I don't get it? I don't see how that's training hard.
usually the videos are just weeks from a comp, no need to go heavy and hurt yourself then
Hope this helps
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Don't care how beyond failure you go in one set. If you cannot do another rep 3 minutes later you are mentally weak, not physically.
You are not grasping an understanding of the concept. This is the way Dorian trained. This is the way i train, and how all of the biggest guys i know train with the exception of a few...And these are some hardcore, high-level guys...None of those Charles Glass pumping training ever won anybody the olympia..Less time in the gym = bigger bodybuilder...Less reps possible to tear the muscle fiber so it can grow = bigger bodybuilder...More energy/power exerted in the individual sets rather than many many half-assed sets is what the mentally strong can do. This is what mental strength IS. To exert all of your power into that set so that you leave knowing you got the job done and gave it all you could.
Of corse you can do another rep 3 minutes later...But you can not do another working set similar to what you just did...Why the fvck would you need that balonie rep anyway? Do you do a working set and then wait 5 minutes and do 1 rep after, and then starting doing a different exercise? That sounds stupid...
Why everyone looks like shit these days is because they neglect training hard and rely on drugs to do all of the work for them...Then they worry about their health etc etc and say bodybuilding is dangerous or w.e....Well of corse it is dangerous when you are taking everything under the sun to win a local show...Because when you get to a higher level god knows what the fvck you will do and experiment with...When you don't even know how to grow but are using 10x the anabolics than everyone in your gym...Yet still have comparable lifts to them...How many guys that are 170-180 5'10" that i see that are using grams of year and do not compete in the 170-180??? FOR 5'10" 170/180 6% HAS NOT EVEN MAXED YOURSELF OUT YET WITH 500MG/TEST C,E,P any fcking ester....What is the need for primo at this stage??? What is the need for 1000mg of garbage ugl trenbolone ace?? I will never understand....But i keep my mouth shut when i see phaggots like this in the gym lining up around me asking me questions...I ignore their asses...All full of balonie waterweight high e2 red faces high blood pressure shitty midsections but call themselves bodybuilders because they're on a bodybuilding board....I should spit in their faces,,
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You are not grasping an understanding of the concept. This is the way Dorian trained. This is the way i train, and how all of the biggest guys i know train with the exception of a few...And these are some hardcore, high-level guys...None of those Charles Glass pumping training ever won anybody the olympia..Less time in the gym = bigger bodybuilder...Less reps possible to tear the muscle fiber so it can grow = bigger bodybuilder...More energy/power exerted in the individual sets rather than many many half-assed sets is what the mentally strong can do. This is what mental strength IS. To exert all of your power into that set so that you leave knowing you got the job done and gave it all you could.
Of corse you can do another rep 3 minutes later...But you can not do another working set similar to what you just did...Why the fvck would you need that balonie rep anyway? Do you do a working set and then wait 5 minutes and do 1 rep after, and then starting doing a different exercise? That sounds stupid...
Why everyone looks like shit these days is because they neglect training hard and rely on drugs to do all of the work for them...Then they worry about their health etc etc and say bodybuilding is dangerous or w.e....Well of corse it is dangerous when you are taking everything under the sun to win a local show...Because when you get to a higher level god knows what the fvck you will do and experiment with...When you don't even know how to grow but are using 10x the anabolics than everyone in your gym...Yet still have comparable lifts to them...How many guys that are 170-180 5'10" that i see that are using grams of year and do not compete in the 170-180??? FOR 5'10" 170/180 6% HAS NOT EVEN MAXED YOURSELF OUT YET WITH 500MG/TEST C,E,P any fcking ester....What is the need for primo at this stage??? What is the need for 1000mg of garbage ugl trenbolone ace?? I will never understand....But i keep my mouth shut when i see phaggots like this in the gym lining up around me asking me questions...I ignore their asses...All full of balonie waterweight high e2 red faces high blood pressure shitty midsections but call themselves bodybuilders because they're on a bodybuilding board....I should spit in their faces,,
have you posted a picture yet?
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have you posted a picture yet?
Nope but i eventually will if needed to really shut someone up...If i'm pissed off at the time i probably won't care about revealing who i am some of you probably know me but it most likely will be via pm to whoever i'm arguing with....I don't care for negative publicity....That's completely off topic though
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Nope but i eventually will if needed to really shut someone up...If i'm pissed off at the time i probably won't care about revealing who i am some of you probably know me but it most likely will be via pm to whoever i'm arguing with....I don't care for negative publicity....That's completely off topic though
tell me your stats now and i will remember for when you post the pic.
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tell me your stats now and i will remember for when you post the pic.
Right now "off-season" (i don't compete anymore so this is why it's in quotes) 5'9" 238 (just weighed myself) 12%bf (rough estimate might actually be less/looks less)
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tell me your stats now and i will remember for when you post the pic.
250@6%
About 6'
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Right now "off-season" (i don't compete anymore so this is why it's in quotes) 5'9" 238 (just weighed myself) 12%bf (rough estimate might actually be less/looks less)
thank you.
On the one working set thing, I tend to have a lot of endurance rather than strength, I can do high rep sets with a certain weight then go up higher in weight and struggle with hitting any reps at all, drop down again and hit high reps again.
Odd really
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250@6%
About 6'
Was that on the 6th August by any chance?
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Was that on the 6th August by any chance?
August 6!!!!!11111!!!
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250@6%
About 6'
This is not possible as i don't use insulin anymore. Well every once in a while. Not nearly consistent enough to reach very close to that. Nor do i want run that much GH
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thank you.
On the one working set thing, I tend to have a lot of endurance rather than strength, I can do high rep sets with a certain weight then go up higher in weight and struggle with hitting any reps at all, drop down again and hit high reps again.
Odd really
I have known/trained many people like this over the years...They'll give you some nice 260 x 12 and then you raise it to 280 and they can barely/can't do once...
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Was that on the 6th August by any chance?
lål
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That is the hardest training style there is. If you are capable of doing more than 1 working set you are not working hard enough. 1 working set is all that's needed.
you've definitely gotta train hard and til failure, but i think that training past failure is a bit too much and can easily lead to over-training
You are not grasping an understanding of the concept. This is the way Dorian trained. This is the way i train, and how all of the biggest guys i know train with the exception of a few...And these are some hardcore, high-level guys...None of those Charles Glass pumping training ever won anybody the olympia..Less time in the gym = bigger bodybuilder...Less reps possible to tear the muscle fiber so it can grow = bigger bodybuilder...More energy/power exerted in the individual sets rather than many many half-assed sets is what the mentally strong can do. This is what mental strength IS. To exert all of your power into that set so that you leave knowing you got the job done and gave it all you could.
Of corse you can do another rep 3 minutes later...But you can not do another working set similar to what you just did...Why the fvck would you need that balonie rep anyway? Do you do a working set and then wait 5 minutes and do 1 rep after, and then starting doing a different exercise? That sounds stupid...
Why everyone looks like shit these days is because they neglect training hard and rely on drugs to do all of the work for them...Then they worry about their health etc etc and say bodybuilding is dangerous or w.e....Well of corse it is dangerous when you are taking everything under the sun to win a local show...Because when you get to a higher level god knows what the fvck you will do and experiment with...When you don't even know how to grow but are using 10x the anabolics than everyone in your gym...Yet still have comparable lifts to them...How many guys that are 170-180 5'10" that i see that are using grams of year and do not compete in the 170-180??? FOR 5'10" 170/180 6% HAS NOT EVEN MAXED YOURSELF OUT YET WITH 500MG/TEST C,E,P any fcking ester....What is the need for primo at this stage??? What is the need for 1000mg of garbage ugl trenbolone ace?? I will never understand....But i keep my mouth shut when i see phaggots like this in the gym lining up around me asking me questions...I ignore their asses...All full of balonie waterweight high e2 red faces high blood pressure shitty midsections but call themselves bodybuilders because they're on a bodybuilding board....I should spit in their faces,,
you gotta be very careful with this height weight stuff brother, coz some really really light guys for thier height look out-fucking-standing
this here is 6 foot @ bearly 200 pounds
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you've definitely gotta train hard and til failure, but i think that training past failure is a bit too much and can easily lead to over-training
you gotta be very careful with this height weight stuff brother, coz some really really light guys for thier height look out-fucking-standing
this here is 6 foot @ bearly 200 pounds
Did you see what i said? "are 170-180 5'10" that i see that are using grams of year and do not compete in the 170-180???" YES when they're competing at the 170-180 they will look freaky...Just like the bantams that use tons of iu GH etc...This is constant years of building at this weight...Constant years of solidifying the fvck out of themselves at this weight...I am not talking the jim cordova's of the world...I am talking about the novice 170-180 on grams of gear...No training 1 working set past failure is not overtraining...Or even close to that...What the shmoes do going from machine to machine to exercise to exercise tons of sets 2-3 hr workouts and wanting to do that 2-3 times a week because they "love training and can't rest" for the same muscles are overtraining
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You can prime someone for any weightclass....Just add in GH and slin before they've grown into their full potential for AAS and at the weight you want lower the AAS....Now you have someone at 170 on AAS, GH insulin vs someone 170 from chicken, rice and test...2 different looks...same weight...
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Nope but i eventually will if needed to really shut someone up...If i'm pissed off at the time i probably won't care about revealing who i am some of you probably know me but it most likely will be via pm to whoever i'm arguing with....I don't care for negative publicity....That's completely off topic though
Blurry photos in your sliding glass door reflection.
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Blurry photos in your sliding glass door reflection.
How about a naked bathroom pic with a hard-on? I'm sure you'd like that
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STIMULATE, DON'T ANNIHILATE!
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So many text-only Olympia competitors on Getbig.
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Did you see what i said? "are 170-180 5'10" that i see that are using grams of year and do not compete in the 170-180???" YES when they're competing at the 170-180 they will look freaky...Just like the bantams that use tons of iu GH etc...This is constant years of building at this weight...Constant years of solidifying the fvck out of themselves at this weight...I am not talking the jim cordova's of the world...I am talking about the novice 170-180 on grams of gear...No training 1 working set past failure is not overtraining...Or even close to that...What the shmoes do going from machine to machine to exercise to exercise tons of sets 2-3 hr workouts and wanting to do that 2-3 times a week because they "love training and can't rest" for the same muscles are overtraining
agreed with this machine horseshit, the best exercises per upper body part imo are....
bis=barbell curl
chest=barbell bench
tris=weighted dips or barbell close-grip bench press
delts=overhead press on smith machine or with barbell
back=barbell row (and no, i don't do these ;D)
ok, so a conditioned buck 70 @ 5'10" that's bout my current size right now 'cept i only use 50 mg test prop eod and 50 mg drol with 20 mg dbol ed not grams and grams of gear ;D
and it is kinda cool how you can weigh roughly the same weight and even near the same bf levels but look much better depending upon what your running and how your training
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So many text-only Olympia competitors on Getbig.
Who is a text-only olympia competitor? I certainly didn't say i was...Maybe you did? Who knows?
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agreed with this machine horseshit, the best exercises per upper body part imo are....
bis=barbell curl
chest=barbell bench
tris=weighted dips or barbell close-grip bench press
delts=overhead press on smith machine or with barbell
back=barbell row (and no, i don't do these ;D)
ok, so a conditioned buck 70 @ 5'10" that's bout my current size right now 'cept i only use 50 mg test prop eod and 50 mg drol with 20 mg dbol ed not grams and grams of gear ;D
and it is kinda cool how you can weigh roughly the same weight and even near the same bf levels but look much better depending upon what your running and how your training
Just for the record i was not directing anything towards you when i was ranting...this is just simply what i see....So you should be able to grow fine off of that...If you don't then you know it's diet/training that isn't cutting it..
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Just for the record i was not directing anything towards you when i was ranting...this is just simply what i see....So you should be able to grow fine off of that...If you don't then you know it's diet/training that isn't cutting it..
no worries bro, you're a good dude, i was just busting your balls a bit ;D (no homo)
so you really think that going past failure on a regular basis won't lead to over-work/over-training?
i've found that the harder and heavier that i train the better i look, but it's a pain in the fucking ass training heavy all the time and going into the gym with the mindset to top your previous best
but maybe in my case it won't lead to over-training as easily for someone like me who only trains my pecs, delts and arms hard
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Davidtheman, what do u think of gironda like principles and very fast lighter weight training?
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no worries bro, you're a good dude, i was just busting your balls a bit ;D (no homo)
so you really think that going past failure on a regular basis won't lead to over-work/over-training?
i've found that the harder and heavier that i train the better i look, but it's a pain in the fucking ass training heavy all the time and going into the gym with the mindset to top your previous best
but maybe in my case it won't lead to over-training as easily for someone like me who only trains my pecs, delts and arms hard
Yes Jay Cutler used to/does train heavy as well and this is why he will tell you that he goes to the gym and never has a "day" in mind...Meaning he doesn't know if he's going to do back...Or he doesn't know if he's going to do legs....Because he will adjust his training accordingly to what is feeling good... More rest = more growth...you're training much less time this way and you're taking more time off but you're working harder...If that makes sense...This is the way to recruit those type 2b fibers and force growth in your muscles...This training will ELIMINATE genetic weakpoints...The fascia is hard to tear? Well too bad i am going to tear it anyway...That is the mindset you need to have each and everytime you get in the gym...That when you leave you know you gave it all you got...
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Davidtheman, what do u think of gironda like principles and very fast lighter weight training?
I know people but are mostly power lifters that swear by gironda type principals but this is because they're getting results on their lifts and not necessarily psyched about their body composition...
I don't like to shame good, organized training routines that are proven to work...I just say what i KNOW is the BEST WAY to build muscle especially for the average genetic guys like myself who had to earn everything they had...You can have a great physique with 8x8 training principal but realize that if you're extremely lean already and are trying to pack on the muscle it's gonna make you have to eat much more food than you already do as it's a high calorie burning routine....and i mean high-high...I like what it was originally implemented for and that's for pre contest when the metabolism is already revving and you aren't trying to pack on any size whatsoever...
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SO FAR I LIKE THIS GUY..^^^
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SO FAR I LIKE THIS GUY..^^^
Did you like him as "the trainer"?
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I did volume training for years and i was never a strong guy.
Now i do 1 working set per exercice since 6 weeks, going all out
. Strenght goes up a lot every week so i'll train this way now
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I did volume training for years and i was never a strong guy.
Now i do 1 working set per exercice since 6 weeks, going all out
. Strenght goes up a lot every week so i'll train this way now
define "a lot"
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You are not grasping an understanding of the concept. This is the way Dorian trained. This is the way i train, and how all of the biggest guys i know train with the exception of a few...And these are some hardcore, high-level guys...None of those Charles Glass pumping training ever won anybody the olympia..Less time in the gym = bigger bodybuilder...Less reps possible to tear the muscle fiber so it can grow = bigger bodybuilder...More energy/power exerted in the individual sets rather than many many half-assed sets is what the mentally strong can do. This is what mental strength IS. To exert all of your power into that set so that you leave knowing you got the job done and gave it all you could.
Of corse you can do another rep 3 minutes later...But you can not do another working set similar to what you just did...Why the fvck would you need that balonie rep anyway? Do you do a working set and then wait 5 minutes and do 1 rep after, and then starting doing a different exercise? That sounds stupid...
Why everyone looks like shit these days is because they neglect training hard and rely on drugs to do all of the work for them...Then they worry about their health etc etc and say bodybuilding is dangerous or w.e....Well of corse it is dangerous when you are taking everything under the sun to win a local show...Because when you get to a higher level god knows what the fvck you will do and experiment with...When you don't even know how to grow but are using 10x the anabolics than everyone in your gym...Yet still have comparable lifts to them...How many guys that are 170-180 5'10" that i see that are using grams of year and do not compete in the 170-180??? FOR 5'10" 170/180 6% HAS NOT EVEN MAXED YOURSELF OUT YET WITH 500MG/TEST C,E,P any fcking ester....What is the need for primo at this stage??? What is the need for 1000mg of garbage ugl trenbolone ace?? I will never understand....But i keep my mouth shut when i see phaggots like this in the gym lining up around me asking me questions...I ignore their asses...All full of balonie waterweight high e2 red faces high blood pressure shitty midsections but call themselves bodybuilders because they're on a bodybuilding board....I should spit in their faces,,
Please enlighten us with a picture of yourself in contest shape.
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Did you like him as "the trainer"?
well if it 's him then no..same with the bouncer/the'ect',harrigan all the same...
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agreed with this machine horseshit, the best exercises per upper body part imo are....
bis=barbell curl
chest=barbell bench
tris=weighted dips or barbell close-grip bench press
delts=overhead press on smith machine or with barbell
back=barbell row (and no, i don't do these ;D)
ok, so a conditioned buck 70 @ 5'10" that's bout my current size right now 'cept i only use 50 mg test prop eod and 50 mg drol with 20 mg dbol ed not grams and grams of gear ;D
and it is kinda cool how you can weigh roughly the same weight and even near the same bf levels but look much better depending upon what your running and how your training
So you're taking Test Prop, Anadrol 50 and Dianabol AND YOU WEIGH 170 POUNDS?
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well if it 's him then no..same with the bouncer/the'ect',harrigan all the same...
bouncer was a genuine poster, he came over here to troll from BB.COM
I read his posts on the forum where he was bragging about winding people up
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So you're taking Test Prop, Anadrol 50 and Dianabol AND YOU WEIGH 170 POUNDS?
Guy is on small dosages, have you not forgotten how much a former poster who competed was taking (multiple grams) and weighed not much more
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bouncer was a genuine poster, he came over here to troll from BB.COM
I read his posts on the forum where he was bragging about winding people up
oh,,,he was the pretty jacked but facially challenged fella..
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oh,,,he was the pretty jacked but facially challenged fella..
he wasnt that bad, getbiggers picked up on his slightly lazy eye.
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he wasnt that bad, getbiggers picked up on his slightly lazy eye.
lol,,,what are u his p.r. guy..he came and left ,,I thought gimmick..i was wrong 8)
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Guy is on small dosages, have you not forgotten how much a former poster who competed was taking (multiple grams) and weighed not much more
The man said he's taking
50 mg Test prop every other day
50 mg Anadrol 50 every day
20 mg Dianabol every day
Are those IFBB dosages? No. But that's a solid program and there's no way anyone should run those products at those numbers and weigh 170- unless they're 5'1" tall, and 170 in contest ready weight.
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lol,,,what are u his p.r. guy..he came and left ,,I thought gimmick..i was wrong 8)
He came, owned everyone and left.
Yep, that was him.
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The man said he's taking
50 mg Test prop every other day
50 mg Anadrol 50 every day
20 mg Dianabol every day
Are those IFBB dosages? No. But that's a solid program and there's no way anyone should run those products at those numbers and weigh 170- unless they're 5'1" tall, and 170 is contest ready weight.
he's 5'10/5'11
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he's 5'10/5'11
Thank you sir.
Taking Anadrol AND Dianabol and weighing 170 pounds.
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agreed with this machine horseshit, the best exercises per upper body part imo are....
bis=barbell curl
chest=barbell bench
tris=weighted dips or barbell close-grip bench press
delts=overhead press on smith machine or with barbell
back=barbell row (and no, i don't do these ;D)
ok, so a conditioned buck 70 @ 5'10" that's bout my current size right now 'cept i only use 50 mg test prop eod and 50 mg drol with 20 mg dbol ed not grams and grams of gear ;D
and it is kinda cool how you can weigh roughly the same weight and even near the same bf levels but look much better depending upon what your running and how your training
I dunno man you looked very skinny in the pics I've seen of you
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Like in most training videos, you see them doing lots of warmup sets ramping up in weight each set to do maybe only 1 working set to near failure, sometimes 2. I don't get it? I don't see how that's training hard.
Because you spend too much time watching videos and not enough time in the actual gym. Hope this helps.
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Did you like him as "the trainer"?
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Hahaha! ;D
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Like in most training videos, you see them doing lots of warmup sets ramping up in weight each set to do maybe only 1 working set to near failure, sometimes 2. I don't get it? I don't see how that's training hard.
They do what is needed to grow, and not more than that.
What many people forget that atleast in bodybuilding it is an endurance sport. The person who can train the most for the longest (in combination with a drug regime) is likely to [eventually] build the most muscle. There is no point in rushing through a warm-up and moving big poundages when you can do it once/twice a week for several years before you need multiple hip replacements and have multiple fuzed vertebrates. Meanwhile the guy who trains 'smart' and is able to continuesly train and hit various musclegroups continues to grow.
Compared to topsports-athletes (bodybuilding is not a topsport) bodybuilders have a much longer-timeframe in which they can become succesful before they go over the hill. Being able to train consistently for many years is preferable to inflicting short/long-term damages which may prevent training for short/long periods. E.g. a (pro)bodybuilder who is out due to an injury for 2 years whereas his competitors are not, is unlikely to be able to compete with said competitors 2 years later after rehab. Which is not to say he cannot build muscle, but comparatively he'll have reduced his time to grow.
The implications for the average gymrat:
Unless you actually have a shot at getting anywhere competitively [national/international top] there is no point to lift big poundages and risk injuries (or to heavy dose for that matter). Better to go for the fabled 'health-look', and by that I don't mean the healthy purple glow.
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you've definitely gotta train hard and til failure, but i think that training past failure is a bit too much and can easily lead to over-training
you gotta be very careful with this height weight stuff brother, coz some really really light guys for thier height look out-fucking-standing
this here is 6 foot @ bearly 200 pounds
I haven't lifted in a month and am flabbest I've been in years...about 220lbs (6'5"). You can't tell what weight a person is from pics.
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you've definitely gotta train hard and til failure, but i think that training past failure is a bit too much and can easily lead to over-training
you gotta be very careful with this height weight stuff brother, coz some really really light guys for thier height look out-fucking-standing
this here is 6 foot @ bearly 200 pounds
If you train till failure how can you train past that though? I think training just short of failure is better. I've been doing the whole train to failure thing and my body is not liking it- it can be counter productive
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I haven't lifted in a month and am flabbest I've been in years...about 220lbs (6'5"). You can't tell what weight a person is from pics.
ur always either way or pretty well built up,,u look good 'flabby'lol,,,what are u going on a bank heist after pic was taken..or should I call u 'DARTH DAVE'
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I haven't lifted in a month and am flabbest I've been in years...about 220lbs (6'5"). You can't tell what weight a person is from pics.
is that Kais head complete with hair braid under your towel?
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ur always either way or pretty well built up,,u look good 'flabby'lol,,,what are u going on a bank heist after pic was taken..or should I call u 'DARTH DAVE'
As are you, always in shape. I know I'm still better than 99% of Joe Public but I'm worse this week, my abs are looking smooth. I'm 31 soon and I can't keep eating jaffa cakes/pizza/jelly beans at night before bed (the last 2 nights it was a large kebab instead of the pizza). Time to hop back on the GH :o :o
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is that Kais head complete with hair braid under your towel?
It's his ponytail how did you know?
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As are you, always in shape. I know I'm still better than 99% of Joe Public but I'm worse this week, my abs are looking smooth. I'm 31 soon and I can't keep eating jaffa cakes/pizza/jelly beans at night before bed (the last 2 nights it was a large kebab instead of the pizza). Time to hop back on the GH :o :o
8)..NEED TO ENJOY SOME GOOD OR BAD FOOD ;D
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I haven't lifted in a month and am flabbest I've been in years...about 220lbs (6'5"). You can't tell what weight a person is from pics.
nice cock
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nice cock
LOL..
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By the way- it is physiologically impossible to be taking both ANADROL AND DIANABOL and weigh only 170 pounds. If you simple hold a bottle of Dianabol in your hands you automatically weigh at least 200 pounds.
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You are not grasping an understanding of the concept. This is the way Dorian trained. This is the way i train, and how all of the biggest guys i know train with the exception of a few...And these are some hardcore, high-level guys...None of those Charles Glass pumping training ever won anybody the olympia..Less time in the gym = bigger bodybuilder...Less reps possible to tear the muscle fiber so it can grow = bigger bodybuilder...More energy/power exerted in the individual sets rather than many many half-assed sets is what the mentally strong can do. This is what mental strength IS. To exert all of your power into that set so that you leave knowing you got the job done and gave it all you could.
Of corse you can do another rep 3 minutes later...But you can not do another working set similar to what you just did...Why the fvck would you need that balonie rep anyway? Do you do a working set and then wait 5 minutes and do 1 rep after, and then starting doing a different exercise? That sounds stupid...
Why everyone looks like shit these days is because they neglect training hard and rely on drugs to do all of the work for them...Then they worry about their health etc etc and say bodybuilding is dangerous or w.e....Well of corse it is dangerous when you are taking everything under the sun to win a local show...Because when you get to a higher level god knows what the fvck you will do and experiment with...When you don't even know how to grow but are using 10x the anabolics than everyone in your gym...Yet still have comparable lifts to them...How many guys that are 170-180 5'10" that i see that are using grams of year and do not compete in the 170-180??? FOR 5'10" 170/180 6% HAS NOT EVEN MAXED YOURSELF OUT YET WITH 500MG/TEST C,E,P any fcking ester....What is the need for primo at this stage??? What is the need for 1000mg of garbage ugl trenbolone ace?? I will never understand....But i keep my mouth shut when i see phaggots like this in the gym lining up around me asking me questions...I ignore their asses...All full of balonie waterweight high e2 red faces high blood pressure shitty midsections but call themselves bodybuilders because they're on a bodybuilding board....I should spit in their faces,,
100% true... After that 1 all out set to failure in your target rep range you must change a variable...new exercise, hand placement, foot placement, seat position I prefer a new machine... rep ranges... TUT and after sufficient rest repeat you will not need as many warm ups... 4-6 sets max depending on the muscle group. Use all compound and positioning in which you are the strongest each exercise... Each set must stand on its own merit as being the one set that created the most hypertrophy... This is how you train... You are not Branch Warren.. This poster is very smart and I bet he looks jacked like I do....
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Yes I agree as well ergo.
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@Davidtheman100 How can i can run Insulin, HGH and test and not compete? For what the fuack you do that? Your mirror? ;D >:(
Show the pics, i wanna see how huge you look. for real. ::)
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@Davidtheman100 How can i can run Insulin, HGH and test and not compete? For what the fuack you do that? Your mirror? ;D >:(
Show the pics, i wanna see how huge you look. for real. ::)
If you don't believe that there are many people not currently competing that look good/better than alot of the competition running the same dosages or higher, it speaks more about your knowledge than anything else...You think that because you pay some money and sign a piece of paper that you somehow are among the elite physiques? Doesn't work that way...Some people have realistic depictions of what their earning is gonna be...For most it's not a lifestyle rather than a hobby...It's like the streetballers in NYC that are more skilled than a ton of NBA guys at the end of the bench...But with BB it's ten-fold because theres usually no pay off...I was able to get sponsor money and i still do...I still model as i'm not old and do it sporadically as i still work full-time and my asking price has always been high because i was like you and thought since i'm a high-level bodybuilder that i'm somehow on a pedestal... I'm able to do ALL OF THIS because i'm constantly on the move and i'm RESPECTED within the community... but that's never been a problem though because i wasn't a gimmick...I always have a good physique and YES a good physique pays...Regardless i work for my money and would have money anyway...You wouldn't know anything about that...Keep chasing your dreams all the best wishes for you,
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If you don't believe that there are many people not currently competing that look good/better than alot of the competition running the same dosages or higher, it speaks more about your knowledge than anything else...You think that because you pay some money and sign a piece of paper that you somehow are among the elite physiques? Doesn't work that way...Some people have realistic depictions of what their earning is gonna be...For most it's not a lifestyle rather than a hobby...It's like the streetballers in NYC that are more skilled than a ton of NBA guys at the end of the bench...But with BB it's ten-fold because theres usually no pay off...I was able to get sponsor money and i still do...I still model as i'm not old and do it sporadically as i still work full-time and my asking price has always been high because i was like you and thought since i'm a high-level bodybuilder that i'm somehow on a pedestal... I'm able to do ALL OF THIS because i'm constantly on the move and i'm RESPECTED within the community... but that's never been a problem though because i wasn't a gimmick...I always have a good physique and YES a good physique pays...Regardless i work for my money and would have money anyway...You wouldn't know anything about that...Keep chasing your dreams all the best wishes for you,
I'm 53 and I do not compete... It is a lifestyle dictated by nutrition and understanding how to train more then the drugs themselves...
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I'm 53 and I do not compete... It is a lifestyle dictated by nutrition and understanding how to train more then the drugs themselves...
What stack are you running? Does your wife know you wear shorts like that? ;D
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What stack are you running? Does your wife know you wear shorts like that? ;D
They are her shorts.. 2 AD daily... 8-12 iu's sero's. 500mg test e EOD, and 100mg ace ED, 60mg (6 x 10mg) Anavar ED...
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I'm 53 and I do not compete... It is a lifestyle dictated by nutrition and understanding how to train more then the drugs themselves...
Looking great - love the 4000lb stare
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By the way- it is physiologically impossible to be taking both ANADROL AND DIANABOL and weigh only 170 pounds. If you simple hold a bottle of Dianabol in your hands you automatically weigh at least 200 pounds.
;D
just started the a-bombs on monday bro
what's funny though is that my arms measure a legit 17 inches 6-7% bodyfat, which is decent sized arms for a 5'11" 170 pound dude, no?
but the thing is, i usually do enter the gym in a wheelchair ;D
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I'm 53 and I do not compete... It is a lifestyle dictated by nutrition and understanding how to train more then the drugs themselves...
Looking great ergo. :)
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I'm 53 and I do not compete... It is a lifestyle dictated by nutrition and understanding how to train more then the drugs themselves...
You are exactly right great post. Looking great as well.
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Why do you always see Pro's doing so many Warmup Sets and not many Working sets?
I don't know, but ever heard of MAX-OT training?
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I'm 53 and I do not compete... It is a lifestyle dictated by nutrition and understanding how to train more then the drugs themselves...
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=580336.0;attach=650670;image)
Oh totally, I've heard that steroids are only the finishing touch ;D
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Oh totally, I've heard that steroids are only the finishing touch ;D
No not the finishing touch... They are instrumental in achieving size and conditioning. Without the drugs you will never be a Power House...Never. The drugs will take you far, but only so far... To maximize there usage by continuing to gain genetically requires an understanding of nutrition and training...Charles Glass, FST 7, Mountain Dog Training, DC, YT3 all bullshit training using superior subjects... High volume using totally unnecessary training routines touted to make there designer important not to maximize "your potential What is required is HEVT High Efficiency Variable Training employing High Intensity techniques using low volume... Training correctly while juicing share an equal value in maximizing size... It does not take years....
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No not the finishing touch... They are instrumental in achieving size and conditioning. Without the drugs you will never be a Power House...Never. The drugs will take you far, but only so far... To maximize there usage by continuing to gain genetically requires an understanding of nutrition and training...Charles Glass, FST 7, Mountain Dog Training, DC, YT3 all bullshit training using superior subjects... High volume using totally unnecessary training routines touted to make there designer important not to maximize "your potential What is required is HEVT High Efficiency Variable Training employing High Intensity techniques using low volume... Training correctly while juicing share an equal value in maximizing size... It does not take years....
I was joking of course but kudos to you for being honest and realistic about it 8)
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Like in most training videos, you see them doing lots of warmup sets ramping up in weight each set to do maybe only 1 working set to near failure, sometimes 2. I don't get it? I don't see how that's training hard.
just to spite the guy pic'd below... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( rip
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just to spite the guy pic'd below... :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( rip
can you believe those arms measured less than 19 inches? :o :o :o
and weak chest my ass
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can you believe those arms measured less than 19 inches? :o :o :o
and weak chest my ass
If he was able to fit in and use the original nautilus seated upright triceps extension machine he was narrow. I'm leaving Chicago as I write this and while here I trained at Quads and Dave had one. I could not squeeze my frame in it not even close... Great great body builder non the less and one of my favorites
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Attention whores. That's really what it all comes down to. I seen a tier 5 pro at my gym train arms 5 days in a row because the gym was crowed and his arms are his best bodypart. This is the type of shit a 16 year old kid would do. Yet this guy is pushing 40...He walks from machine to machine carrying a duffel bag by his side and flexes his arm as tight as possible while holding the bag down to his side. The dude belongs in padded room...
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Why do you always see Pro's doing so many Warmup Sets and not many Working sets?
I don't know, but ever heard of MAX-OT training?
Max O T training has great merit... Following the 1st law of hypertrophy "to move maximum weight for a desired rep range" The 4 rep range utilizing max effort can be superior as a first inline set utilizing a chosen compound movement for certain large muscle groups... Chest, shoulders, back...
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Attention whores. That's really what it all comes down to. I seen a tier 5 pro at my gym train arms 5 days in a row because the gym was crowed and his arms are his best bodypart. This is the type of shit a 16 year old kid would do. Yet this guy is pushing 40...He walks from machine to machine carrying a duffel bag by his side and flexes his arm as tight as possible while holding the bag down to his side. The dude belongs in padded room...
Agreed. Bad for the sport and should be kicked in the balls...
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Agreed. Bad for the sport and should be kicked in the balls...
Repeatedly kicked in the balls !!
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Repeatedly kicked in the balls !!
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ergo did you never compete ever or just don't compete anymore?
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ergo did you never compete ever or just don't compete anymore?
I did compete in the NPC 1986-96 Southern CA. area. 201-5 pounds was the best weight I could obtain due to faulty training standards bred by magazine sensationalism modeled after the Pro's. I'm 242 in the am in that pic around 7.5-8%. At 228 4% and 53 years old gluteus are completly striated etc... You would fall on the floor if you see me in gym. At this point I carry a Pro Masters physique and can vary my weight from 225-260 all within 12 weeks. I do not like the huge look anymore 260 plus it is very difficult that weight on my knees and back. I keep a decent size and low body fat which gives me Alpha Boss status at 53 wherever I train. The drugs have always been around. What propelled me up in to Boss status was the addition of 30+ pounds of muscle from the age of 48-52 this was acquired from understanding correct training logic and the addition of quality hgh coupled with year round nutrition no off season so to speak. I take great enjoyment at this juncture in my life to walk around in the upper . 001% of all 50+ year old males on the Planet... How you train was the breakthrough point on my development and I feel cheated and robbed by falling for magazine sensationalism and Weider propaganda dished out by his contracted athletes... Many many years wasted...
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I'm 53 and I do not compete... It is a lifestyle dictated by nutrition and understanding how to train more then the drugs themselves...
Look good. There was a scientific study done in 2013 that indicated a link between people who wore Gasp apparel and people who took multiple grams of male hormones a week. Its seems that these two factors are heavily connected. And that many of the people who wore Gasp apparel got angry and spouted the line "drugs are just the finishing touch"...
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I have over 600 real training videos of how I did it on YouTube my channel is ryan ergo. I own a gym and I collect rare efficient machines. I have over 200 machines in my gym and garages and storage. Many videos are film from when I travel at various Gyms. Many are from my private garage collection and many at my facility... If you wish to understand my theories better watch and read my captions on videos...
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Look good. There was a scientific study done in 2013 that indicated a link between people who wore Gasp appearel and people who took multiple grams of male hormones a week. Its seems that these two factors are heavily connected.
I would have to agree.
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I would have to agree.
nicely played...You know Getbig well ;)
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They are her shorts.. 2 AD daily... 8-12 iu's sero's. 500mg test e EOD, and 100mg ace ED, 60mg (6 x 10mg) Anavar ED...
Is that long term? Im on 600mg test a week and my bloods are probably super fucked up. Im early 30s too.
Thanks for being honest but sounds deadly. Id imagine your ona slew of anti e too.
How did u make your money to have so much free time/money for gym, drug, bb clothes, taking pics in your undies obsession?
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I would have to agree.
Well, buddy. You look fantastic for 53. Aren't you the lad who posted on gh15's board? You use pharma gh right?
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They are her shorts.. 2 AD daily... 8-12 iu's sero's. 500mg test e EOD, and 100mg ace ED, 60mg (6 x 10mg) Anavar ED...
Sorry, I just saw this. Those serostims must be pricey to run at that dosage but why not if you can afford it...fountain of youth
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Is that long term? Im on 600mg test a week and my bloods are probably super fucked up. Im early 30s too.
Thanks for being honest but sounds deadly. Id imagine your ona slew of anti e too.
How did u make your money to have so much free time/money for gym, drug, bb clothes, taking pics in your undies obsession?
Anastrolozole (sp?) 1 tab every 3 days.... retired several careers... internet boom in the 90's Yes I'm OCD :D Don't assume you are fucked up at all from 600mg test... I just had comprehensive bloods completed as I have a private sports physician in San Fran... ast/alt skewed but not high enough to consider Ultra sound, which I have had several and no issues. Didn't even test for hep as an inexperience Doc would do. Kidneys perfect. Cholesterol disheveled again not enough to warrant medication... increased hematocrit but in range upper. Prolactin elevated from tren and yes tren elevates prolactin caber or promo can pull that down... Thyroid estrogen etc... good. This is 25 years of use...
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Great shots ergo.........you should hit up the Masters Nats or the Masters North America.......you`d be in the mix for sure buddy.
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Anastrolozole (sp?) 1 tab every 3 days.... retired several careers... internet boom in the 90's Yes I'm OCD :D Don't assume you are fucked up at all from 600mg test... I just had comprehensive bloods completed as I have a private sports physician in San Fran... ast/alt skewed but not high enough to consider Ultra sound, which I have had several and no issues. Didn't even test for hep as an inexperience Doc would do. Kidneys perfect. Cholesterol disheveled again not enough to warrant medication... increased hematocrit but in range upper. Prolactin elevated from tren and yes tren elevates prolactin caber or promo can pull that down... Thyroid estrogen etc... good. This is 25 years of use...
Care to share the cholesterol numbers? Do u ever think "wtf am i doin this for" when your stickingnyourself eith needles every day? I only pin twice a week and i even think that...
Also, who took those pics?
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Great shots ergo.........you should hit up the Masters Nats or the Masters North America.......you`d be in the mix for sure buddy.
Thank Wes... Totally not interested in a Pro card at this point. Just enjoying experimenting on conditioning...
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Not to sound like an asshole here,but people can learn a lot from ergo.................guy knows his shit,walks the walk and talks the talk.
Plus he`s a damn nice guy who`s always willing to help if he can.
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Just dont do your job and vacuum in front of ergo when he is filming his leg press machine set...he will become not so nice ... :)
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Care to share the cholesterol numbers? Do u ever think "wtf am i doin this for" when your stickingnyourself eith needles every day? I only pin twice a week and i even think that...
Also, who took those pics?
Yes I feel this way... No I will not share my values. The pics are taken by pulling stills off a video. I set my tripod up, adjust, record short video and pull stills from my camera Leica V-Lux 4. Extremely simple. Download into Adobe LightRoom edit post... They look professional, but just camera tripod... All quality cameras allow this simple technique... Between sets while filming in gym I can pull dozens of shots before I'm even rested...
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Yes I feel this way... No I will not share my values. The pics are taken by pulling stills off a video. I set my tripod up, adjust, record short video and pull stills from my camera Leica V-Lux 4. Extremely simple. Download into Adobe LightRoom edit post... They look professional, but just camera tripod... All quality cameras allow this simple technique... Between sets while filming in gym I can pull dozens of shots before I'm even rested...
Wow the cholesterol is that bad? Mine drops to mid 30s on test (hdl)... Ldl in the 120 range whichis too high IMO. Total around 220 at its worst
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Just dont do your job and vacuum in front of ergo when he is filming his leg press machine set...he will become not so nice ... :)
Haha... I actually felt bad about that... That was BJ's Penn gym in Honolulu and they do not allow filming plus the weight I'm moving there is no do over...
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Haha... I actually felt bad about that... That was BJ's Penn gym in Honolulu and they do not allow filming plus the weight I'm moving there is no do over...
Yeah that was a pretty silly reactiom on your part. Would have been diff if he was just some punk teen walkin around bein a shit head, but that guy was actually doing his job lol. Aleast you feel bad about it. Shows you have humality and not a sociopath
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Wow the cholesterol is that bad? Mine drops to mid 30s on test (hdl)... Ldl in the 120 range whichis too high IMO. Total around 220 at its worst
That totals exactly my total no shit...
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That totals exactly my total no shit...
Ive had worse actally on keto...super fucked up. Never doin that again
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Ive had worse actally on keto...super fucked up. Never doin that again
My Dr. said to incorporate cardio and values will move favorably... I hate fucking cardio...
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Just dont do your job and vacuum in front of ergo when he is filming his leg press machine set...he will become not so nice ... :)
lol
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Ergo,
I remember reading your posts back in gh15's forum. Anyway, what is your take on DC training?
I realize that i have been wasting alot of time with higher volume workouts because my nutrition is pretty much on point with my gear but my gains are depressing.