Why do I always see Pro's doing so many Warmup Sets and not many Working sets?

[NickEdge779]

Like in most training videos, you see them doing lots of warmup sets ramping up in weight each set to do maybe only 1 working set to near failure, sometimes 2. I don't get it? I don't see how that's training hard.

[OB1]

Like in most training videos, you see them doing lots of warmup sets ramping up in weight each set to do maybe only 1 working set to near failure, sometimes 2. I don't get it? I don't see how that's training hard.

No need to train hard.
Steroids will build muscle even if you don't train.

[Davidtheman100]

Like in most training videos, you see them doing lots of warmup sets ramping up in weight each set to do maybe only 1 working set to near failure, sometimes 2. I don't get it? I don't see how that's training hard.

That is the hardest training style there is. If you are capable of doing more than 1 working set you are not working hard enough. 1 working set is all that's needed.

[NickEdge779]

That is the hardest training style there is. If you are capable of doing more than 1 working set you are not working hard enough. 1 working set is all that's needed.

Not true at all. The only way you can be maxed out after 1 working set is if you do a 1 rep maximum. If you can complete a working set of 8 reps to failure, you can definitely do another set of 6 with the same weight after that, and then a set after that with the same weight of at least 4 or 5, and then a set after that of 2 or 3 reps. You can go far before your muscle is absolutely fatigued and thats when you can't complete 1 rep of a certain weight.

[SF1900]

That is the hardest training style there is. If you are capable of doing more than 1 working set you are not working hard enough. 1 working set is all that's needed.

[Davidtheman100]

Not true at all. The only way you can be maxed out after 1 working set is if you do a 1 rep maximum. If you can complete a working set of 8 reps to failure, you can definitely do another set of 6 with the same weight after that, and then a set after that with the same weight of at least 4 or 5, and then a set after that of 2 or 3 reps. You can go far before your muscle is absolutely fatigued and thats when you can't complete 1 rep of a certain weight.

You go beyond failure in the working set. That is the point. This is a common practice and you should be familiar with it already.

[phreak]

You go beyond failure in the working set. That is the point. This is a common practice and you should be familiar with it already.

Don't care how beyond failure you go in one set. If you cannot do another rep 3 minutes later you are mentally weak, not physically.

[The Ugly]

"Pro's," but not "set's"?

Where's the consistency?

[Kim Jong Bob]

Like in most training videos, you see them doing lots of warmup sets ramping up in weight each set to do maybe only 1 working set to near failure, sometimes 2. I don't get it? I don't see how that's training hard.

usually the videos are just weeks from a comp,   no need to go heavy and hurt yourself then

Hope this helps

[Davidtheman100]

Don't care how beyond failure you go in one set. If you cannot do another rep 3 minutes later you are mentally weak, not physically.

You are not grasping an understanding of the concept. This is the way Dorian trained. This is the way i train, and how all of the biggest guys i know train with the exception of a few...And these are some hardcore, high-level guys...None of those Charles Glass pumping training ever won anybody the olympia..Less time in the gym = bigger bodybuilder...Less reps possible to tear the muscle fiber so it can grow = bigger bodybuilder...More energy/power exerted in the individual sets rather than many many half-assed sets is what the mentally strong can do. This is what mental strength IS. To exert all of your power into that set so that you leave knowing you got the job done and gave it all you could.

Of corse you can do another rep 3 minutes later...But you can not do another working set similar to what you just did...Why the fvck would you need that balonie rep anyway? Do you do a working set and then wait 5 minutes and do 1 rep after, and then starting doing a different exercise? That sounds stupid...

Why everyone looks like shit these days is because they neglect training hard and rely on drugs to do all of the work for them...Then they worry about their health etc etc and say bodybuilding is dangerous or w.e....Well of corse it is dangerous when you are taking everything under the sun to win a local show...Because when you get to a higher level god knows what the fvck you will do and experiment with...When you don't even know how to grow but are using 10x the anabolics than everyone in your gym...Yet still have comparable lifts to them...How many guys that are 170-180 5'10" that i see that are using grams of year and do not compete in the 170-180??? FOR 5'10" 170/180 6% HAS NOT EVEN MAXED YOURSELF OUT YET WITH 500MG/TEST C,E,P any fcking ester....What is the need for primo at this stage??? What is the need for 1000mg of garbage ugl trenbolone ace?? I will never understand....But i keep my mouth shut when i see phaggots like this in the gym lining up around me asking me questions...I ignore their asses...All full of balonie waterweight high e2 red faces high blood pressure shitty midsections but call themselves bodybuilders because they're on a bodybuilding board....I should spit in their faces,,

[Simple Simon]

You are not grasping an understanding of the concept. This is the way Dorian trained. This is the way i train, and how all of the biggest guys i know train with the exception of a few...And these are some hardcore, high-level guys...None of those Charles Glass pumping training ever won anybody the olympia..Less time in the gym = bigger bodybuilder...Less reps possible to tear the muscle fiber so it can grow = bigger bodybuilder...More energy/power exerted in the individual sets rather than many many half-assed sets is what the mentally strong can do. This is what mental strength IS. To exert all of your power into that set so that you leave knowing you got the job done and gave it all you could.

Of corse you can do another rep 3 minutes later...But you can not do another working set similar to what you just did...Why the fvck would you need that balonie rep anyway? Do you do a working set and then wait 5 minutes and do 1 rep after, and then starting doing a different exercise? That sounds stupid...

Why everyone looks like shit these days is because they neglect training hard and rely on drugs to do all of the work for them...Then they worry about their health etc etc and say bodybuilding is dangerous or w.e....Well of corse it is dangerous when you are taking everything under the sun to win a local show...Because when you get to a higher level god knows what the fvck you will do and experiment with...When you don't even know how to grow but are using 10x the anabolics than everyone in your gym...Yet still have comparable lifts to them...How many guys that are 170-180 5'10" that i see that are using grams of year and do not compete in the 170-180??? FOR 5'10" 170/180 6% HAS NOT EVEN MAXED YOURSELF OUT YET WITH 500MG/TEST C,E,P any fcking ester....What is the need for primo at this stage??? What is the need for 1000mg of garbage ugl trenbolone ace?? I will never understand....But i keep my mouth shut when i see phaggots like this in the gym lining up around me asking me questions...I ignore their asses...All full of balonie waterweight high e2 red faces high blood pressure shitty midsections but call themselves bodybuilders because they're on a bodybuilding board....I should spit in their faces,,

have you posted a picture yet?

[Davidtheman100]

have you posted a picture yet?

Nope but i eventually will if needed to really shut someone up...If i'm pissed off at the time i probably won't care about revealing who i am some of you probably know me but it most likely will be via pm to whoever i'm arguing with....I don't care for negative publicity....That's completely off topic though

[Simple Simon]

Nope but i eventually will if needed to really shut someone up...If i'm pissed off at the time i probably won't care about revealing who i am some of you probably know me but it most likely will be via pm to whoever i'm arguing with....I don't care for negative publicity....That's completely off topic though

tell me your stats now and i will remember for when you post the pic.

[Davidtheman100]

tell me your stats now and i will remember for when you post the pic.

Right now "off-season" (i don't compete anymore so this is why it's in quotes) 5'9" 238 (just weighed myself) 12%bf (rough estimate might actually be less/looks less)

[_aj_]

tell me your stats now and i will remember for when you post the pic.

250@6%
About 6'

[Simple Simon]

Right now "off-season" (i don't compete anymore so this is why it's in quotes) 5'9" 238 (just weighed myself) 12%bf (rough estimate might actually be less/looks less)

thank you.

On the one working set thing, I tend to have a lot of endurance rather than strength, I can do high rep sets with a certain weight then go up higher in weight and struggle with hitting any reps at all, drop down again and hit high reps again.

Odd really

[Simple Simon]

250@6%
About 6'

Was that on the 6th August by any chance?

[_aj_]

Was that on the 6th August by any chance?

August 6!!!!!11111!!!

[Davidtheman100]

250@6%
About 6'

This is not possible as i don't use insulin anymore. Well every once in a while. Not nearly consistent enough to reach very close to that. Nor do i want run that much GH

[Davidtheman100]

thank you.

On the one working set thing, I tend to have a lot of endurance rather than strength, I can do high rep sets with a certain weight then go up higher in weight and struggle with hitting any reps at all, drop down again and hit high reps again.

Odd really

I have known/trained many people like this over the years...They'll give you some nice 260 x 12 and then you raise it to 280 and they can barely/can't do once...

[Kim Jong Bob]

Was that on the 6th August by any chance?

lål

[dj181]

That is the hardest training style there is. If you are capable of doing more than 1 working set you are not working hard enough. 1 working set is all that's needed.

you've definitely gotta train hard and til failure, but i think that training past failure is a bit too much and can easily lead to over-training

You are not grasping an understanding of the concept. This is the way Dorian trained. This is the way i train, and how all of the biggest guys i know train with the exception of a few...And these are some hardcore, high-level guys...None of those Charles Glass pumping training ever won anybody the olympia..Less time in the gym = bigger bodybuilder...Less reps possible to tear the muscle fiber so it can grow = bigger bodybuilder...More energy/power exerted in the individual sets rather than many many half-assed sets is what the mentally strong can do. This is what mental strength IS. To exert all of your power into that set so that you leave knowing you got the job done and gave it all you could.

Of corse you can do another rep 3 minutes later...But you can not do another working set similar to what you just did...Why the fvck would you need that balonie rep anyway? Do you do a working set and then wait 5 minutes and do 1 rep after, and then starting doing a different exercise? That sounds stupid...

Why everyone looks like shit these days is because they neglect training hard and rely on drugs to do all of the work for them...Then they worry about their health etc etc and say bodybuilding is dangerous or w.e....Well of corse it is dangerous when you are taking everything under the sun to win a local show...Because when you get to a higher level god knows what the fvck you will do and experiment with...When you don't even know how to grow but are using 10x the anabolics than everyone in your gym...Yet still have comparable lifts to them...How many guys that are 170-180 5'10" that i see that are using grams of year and do not compete in the 170-180??? FOR 5'10" 170/180 6% HAS NOT EVEN MAXED YOURSELF OUT YET WITH 500MG/TEST C,E,P any fcking ester....What is the need for primo at this stage??? What is the need for 1000mg of garbage ugl trenbolone ace?? I will never understand....But i keep my mouth shut when i see phaggots like this in the gym lining up around me asking me questions...I ignore their asses...All full of balonie waterweight high e2 red faces high blood pressure shitty midsections but call themselves bodybuilders because they're on a bodybuilding board....I should spit in their faces,,

you gotta be very careful with this height weight stuff brother, coz some really really light guys for thier height look out-fucking-standing

this here is 6 foot @ bearly 200 pounds

[Davidtheman100]

you've definitely gotta train hard and til failure, but i think that training past failure is a bit too much and can easily lead to over-training
 

you gotta be very careful with this height weight stuff brother, coz some really really light guys for thier height look out-fucking-standing

this here is 6 foot @ bearly 200 pounds

Did you see what i said? "are 170-180 5'10" that i see that are using grams of year and do not compete in the 170-180???" YES when they're competing at the 170-180 they will look freaky...Just like the bantams that use tons of iu GH etc...This is constant years of building at this weight...Constant years of solidifying the fvck out of themselves at this weight...I am not talking the jim cordova's of the world...I am talking about the novice 170-180 on grams of gear...No training 1 working set past failure is not overtraining...Or even close to that...What the shmoes do going from machine to machine to exercise to exercise tons of sets 2-3 hr workouts and wanting to do that 2-3 times a week because they "love training and can't rest" for the same muscles are overtraining

[Davidtheman100]

You can prime someone for any weightclass....Just add in GH and slin before they've grown into their full potential for AAS and at the weight you want lower the AAS....Now you have someone at 170 on AAS, GH insulin vs someone 170 from chicken, rice and test...2 different looks...same weight...

[Nirvana]

Nope but i eventually will if needed to really shut someone up...If i'm pissed off at the time i probably won't care about revealing who i am some of you probably know me but it most likely will be via pm to whoever i'm arguing with....I don't care for negative publicity....That's completely off topic though

Blurry photos in your sliding glass door reflection.