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http://nypost.com/2015/10/01/oregon-gunman-singled-out-christians-during-rampage/
What got me is this part too:
"An anonymous user wrote in an ominous post on the online bulletin board 4chan Wednesday night: “Some of you guys are alright. Don’t go to school tomorrow if you are in the northwest. happening thread will be posted tomorrow morning. so long space robots,” the post concluded."
Why did no one there report this?
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http://nypost.com/2015/10/01/oregon-gunman-singled-out-christians-during-rampage/
What got me is this part too:
"An anonymous user wrote in an ominous post on the online bulletin board 4chan Wednesday night: “Some of you guys are alright. Don’t go to school tomorrow if you are in the northwest. happening thread will be posted tomorrow morning. so long space robots,” the post concluded."
Why did no one there report this?
Donny was gonna mail Josh a bomb the other day. While back, some butthurt Hawaiian toad promised to murder 72 biggers. Shizzo was once gonna kill Shizzo in a drunken drag race. And, of course, Joon threatened to massacre every last shard of self-respect and human decency with pretty much every post. Sure, he actually pulled it off, but the others were just guys blowing smoke.
And these are but a few. Dozens of threats over the years, but none - minus Joon's - ever amounted to jack. Now, no one here called the authorities, so why are you surprised they didn't either?
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Yes they should of shut down every school in the north west ::)
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People talk shit on the internet. No one believed he would do anything for real. Just like no one here belives Joon will post up a video of him curling 80kg for reps.
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http://nypost.com/2015/10/01/oregon-gunman-singled-out-christians-during-rampage/
What got me is this part too:
"An anonymous user wrote in an ominous post on the online bulletin board 4chan Wednesday night: “Some of you guys are alright. Don’t go to school tomorrow if you are in the northwest. happening thread will be posted tomorrow morning. so long space robots,” the post concluded."
Why did no one there report this?
They didn't believe him at first. Thus nobody set it up.
There have been alot of instances with people saying things and nothing happening, Donny for example.
Set it up.
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the problem is school security.
They're armed with MACE? Are you kidding me? Every place with hundreds of unarmed people needs security... malls, churches, schools. Yes, they do. Outside of terrorists or shooters, just to protect from criminals. A gang of ten people could rob hundreds of people, with no armed resistance.
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the problem is school security.
They're armed with MACE? Are you kidding me? Every place with hundreds of unarmed people needs security... malls, churches, schools. Yes, they do. Outside of terrorists or shooters, just to protect from criminals. A gang of ten people could rob hundreds of people, with no armed resistance.
No, it's a brain problem. As such, it will never be fixed.
What good is armed security if I show up to class with two fully-loaded semis? I can kill 30-plus before anyone even figures out which room.
This will be part of American culture until our demise. Probably should consider ourselves lucky it doesn't happen more often.
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He couldn't have singled out Christians. The press has assured me that this guy was a conservative Rpublican.
I think he was probably a member of the Tea Party. ::)
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Hopefully someone will single out Nibiru-believers soon.
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No, it's a brain problem. As such, it will never be fixed.
What good is armed security if I show up to class with two fully-loaded semis? I can kill 30-plus before anyone even figures out which room.
This will be part of American culture until our demise. Probably should consider ourselves lucky it doesn't happen even more often.
What exactly is a fully loaded semi? Do you believe all guns should be pump action rifles? Should one be required to pull the trigger twice to shoot one bullet? Every liberal gun control ignoramus goes on and on about these horrible semi automatic assault rifles and I'm yet to find a single one who even knows what a semi-automatic means.
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He couldn't have singled out Christians. The press has assured me that this guy was a conservative Rpublican.
I think he was probably a member of the Tea Party. ::)
If he had possession of 13 guns - regardless of whether they were purchased or stolen - then, yes, he's a RWNJ. Case closed.
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What exactly is a fully loaded semi? Do you believe all guns should be pump action rifles? Should one be required to pull the trigger twice to shoot one bullet? Every liberal gun control ignoramus goes on and on about these horrible semi automatic assault rifles and I'm yet to find a single one who even knows what a semi-automatic means.
How on earth would you infer this from my post?
And you want me to explain myself?
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If he had possession of 13 guns - regardless of whether they were purchased or stolen - then, yes, he's a RWNJ. Case closed.
Lol, where do I begin.
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Looks like that diet's really paying dividends for ya.
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Wasn't this his avatar?
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Keeping your shoes on isn't protected by the law of the land.
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How about we regulate idiots? Starting with libtards and faux Republicans. I don't own a gun but that doesn't mean others shouldn't be able to if they so choose.
For that matter, people that hyphenate their allegiance to the USA should be regulated too. Oh... I know, I know...only "progressives" have the right to discriminate against those they choose to hate but really now, how is it the actions of individuals equate to the removal of the rights of the rest of our nation?
The answer is, they do not. Some people have their heads so far up their own ass they can chew their food a second time on the way down. As John would say in his infinite wisdom.
FTN.
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This is by far one of the greatest speeches I have ever witness by a President of the USA
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What we need is an increase in governmental powers. All Americans should be forced to undergo a mental health examination from a government approved doctor. Those that show any warning signs of stress, depression, subversion or anger will be stripped of their Constitutional rights. We also need to install video cameras in every home to watch for criminal activity.
We also need an approved organization list. This list will come from the government and dictate what kind of opinions organizations can have. We need to round up all guns, knives, bats, crowbars and anything else from the homes that can be used as a weapon. We need armed military guards on every street corner in America. I also recommend the Government institute a regimen of prescription drugs to the entire population. These drugs will inhibit the display of anger emotions. To refuse to take the drugs will be considered an act of terrorism and will facilitate removal from the population. Lastly, I suggest a funding initiative to make a computer chip that can determine from human brainwaves when a 'pre-crime' event is forthcoming.
Its the only way to be sure. Its the only way to protect everyone from everything. Its the only way to have peace.
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the problem is school security.
They're armed with MACE? Are you kidding me? Every place with hundreds of unarmed people needs security... malls, churches, schools. Yes, they do. Outside of terrorists or shooters, just to protect from criminals. A gang of ten people could rob hundreds of people, with no armed resistance.
Unfortunately, this is true.
Anyone that wants to run roughshod over a school can simply walk in and start shooting....and there is nothing that can stop them.
I'm definitely not for guns in school....but a "no weapons allowed" sign really is the dumbest "defense" system ever enacted
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Unfortunately, this is true.
Anyone that wants to run roughshod over a school can simply walk in and start shooting....and there is nothing that can stop them.
I'm definitely not for guns in school....but a "no weapons allowed" sign really is the dumbest "defense" system ever enacted
Each public elementary school has 1000+ children.
A single cop near the front and/or roaming near the front will stop most shootings very early on.
A decent buzz-in system will keep most shooting to the office, where cop is and where adults only usually.
You build schools together, so most elem and middle schools are adjoined. Great for sharing resources/infrastructure AND having the second cop responding fast as well.
Think about it - ANY time in 'real life' you have 1000+ people in one area - you have security guards. The mall has a few guards. Concerts. Even WALMART has a half-dozen security people (Primaily for loss prevention, but armed to some degree at times).
So yes, with each school always having a few people with clipboards that 'look busy' most of the day, and projector systems wroth 40k$ in most classrooms, the $ is there (if they choose) to add a single cop to each school.
Can yall name ANY 'soft target' where 1000+ people assemble that they don't have security? MAYBE church - but at least in FL, many in church are elderly vets who are dang sure carrying anyway.
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Each public elementary school has 1000+ children.
A single cop near the front and/or roaming near the front will stop most shootings very early on.
A decent buzz-in system will keep most shooting to the office, where cop is and where adults only usually.
You build schools together, so most elem and middle schools are adjoined. Great for sharing resources/infrastructure AND having the second cop responding fast as well.
Think about it - ANY time in 'real life' you have 1000+ people in one area - you have security guards. The mall has a few guards. Concerts. Even WALMART has a half-dozen security people (Primaily for loss prevention, but armed to some degree at times).
So yes, with each school always having a few people with clipboards that 'look busy' most of the day, and projector systems wroth 40k$ in most classrooms, the $ is there (if they choose) to add a single cop to each school.
Can yall name ANY 'soft target' where 1000+ people assemble that they don't have security? MAYBE church - but at least in FL, many in church are elderly vets who are dang sure carrying anyway.
Only realistic way to eliminate the threat at elementary/high schools is a single entrance metal detector, which might be welcomed at this point. Until the shootings stop, of course, and people start bitching about the inconvenience and intrusion.
Maybe possible, haven't thought it through.
Colleges are just too big with too many entrances, though, and plenty of other opportune areas (outside) that can't be monitored as strictly. Not knocking armed security at all, just being realistic about its potential efficacy. Someone hellbent on destruction is surely gonna figure a way to spill blood.
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This is by far one of the greatest speeches I have ever witness by a President of the USA
You want a solution to the gun problem? Start by legalizing all drugs, fuck it, just like we did with alcohol, choke the gangs. Next, home owners who have someone mentally ill with access to their home should not be allowed to own a gun, if they do and that person kills someone hang the home owner in public, EVEN if that person was not mentally ill officially, if they should have known, HANG THEM, bring back hanging and force people to take responsibility.
Next, people working as security in schools or in malls should be armed and armed well, you need someone there to defend against these nutcases out there.
Last, put on trial anyone and everyone that knew the person is nuts and said nothing. I am sick and tired of seeing people after the fact of some crimes say "oh well, we kinda expected them to one day do this". If they expected it and said nothing hang em.
Only by forcing people to start acting responsible can we solve problems, the current attitude of "who gives a shit" is all fun and games until that attitude causes an innocent person to get killed.
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You want a solution to the gun problem? Start by legalizing all drugs, fuck it, just like we did with alcohol, choke the gangs. Next, home owners who have someone mentally ill with access to their home should not be allowed to own a gun, if they do and that person kills someone hang the home owner in public, EVEN if that person was not mentally ill officially, if they should have known, HANG THEM, bring back hanging and force people to take responsibility.
Next, people working as security in schools or in malls should be armed and armed well, you need someone there to defend against these nutcases out there.
Last, put on trial anyone and everyone that knew the person is nuts and said nothing. I am sick and tired of seeing people after the fact of some crimes say "oh well, we kinda expected them to one day do this". If they expected it and said nothing hang em.
Only by forcing people to start acting responsible can we solve problems, the current attitude of "who gives a shit" is all fun and games until that attitude causes an innocent person to get killed.
What happens if someone gets all hopped up on PCP and decides he wants to buy a few guns?
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What happens if someone gets all hopped up on PCP and decides he wants to buy a few guns?
What happens if a cop goes nuts and kills a few people, do we take the guns away of all cops?
What happens if someone gets hopped up on PCP and goes on a drive and kills people with his car do we take away cars?
I can come up with more for ya but you get the point. There will always be some level of gun violence, what I outline is designed to reduce it big time.
Think of the Air Marshal program, they are not on every flight, so what happens if some radical muslim fu boards a flight with no marshals? Yes, I think they should be on all flights, however the current program certainly reduces the amount of problems there can be in the sky.
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Only realistic way to eliminate the threat at elementary/high schools is a single entrance metal detector, which might be welcomed at this point. Until the shootings stop, of course, and people start bitching about the inconvenience and intrusion.
Yes, the metal detector will eliminate the threat and keep our kids safe. Because there's no possible way a shooter could just walk onto any elementary school field during recess and have target practice. Or walk onto any bus. Or any bus stop. Or stand outside the school at dismissal. Or in the morning. Yes, the metal detector will stop a murderous lunatic from killing schoolchildren. ::)
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You want a solution to the gun problem? Start by legalizing all drugs, fuck it, just like we did with alcohol, choke the gangs. Next, home owners who have someone mentally ill with access to their home should not be allowed to own a gun, if they do and that person kills someone hang the home owner in public, EVEN if that person was not mentally ill officially, if they should have known, HANG THEM, bring back hanging and force people to take responsibility.
Next, people working as security in schools or in malls should be armed and armed well, you need someone there to defend against these nutcases out there.
Last, put on trial anyone and everyone that knew the person is nuts and said nothing. I am sick and tired of seeing people after the fact of some crimes say "oh well, we kinda expected them to one day do this". If they expected it and said nothing hang em.
Only by forcing people to start acting responsible can we solve problems, the current attitude of "who gives a shit" is all fun and games until that attitude causes an innocent person to get killed.
Maybe if we just all jumped in the DeLorean and went back to the 1760s or whatever, we could then just pay ol' George what he wanted. Probably still be British colonies, but at least we wouldn't all be shooting each other.
Other than that, think we're probably stuck with the violence.
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Yes, the metal detector will eliminate the threat and keep our kids safe. Because there's no possible way a shooter could just walk onto any elementary school field during recess and have target practice. Or walk onto any bus. Or any bus stop. Or stand outside the school at dismissal. Or in the morning. Yes, the metal detector will stop a murderous lunatic from killing schoolchildren. ::)
That's the problem: There is no one safeguard that will take into consideration every possible scenario. The best we can do is implement the best policies and procedures to reduce the likelihood that mass shootings will happen. This is going to sound crazy, but to a certain extent, people need to let go of the idea that they can control every aspect of every situation. Its just impossible, unless you pretty much take away everyones freedom. Every day we wake up we face possible dangers from all directions. We hope that we wake up and ourselves and our loved ones are safe and that the best policies have been implemented to reduce danger. But its all a risk.
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That's the problem: There is no one safeguard that will take into consideration every possible scenario. The best we can do is implement the best policies and procedures to reduce the likelihood that mass shootings will happen. This is going to sound crazy, but to a certain extent, people need to let go of the idea that they can control every aspect of every situation. Its just impossible, unless you pretty much take away everyones freedom. Every day we wake up we face possible dangers from all directions. We hope that we wake up and ourselves and our loved ones are safe and that the best policies have been implemented to reduce danger. But its all a risk.
Exactly, a mass schoolyard shooting will bring calls for LOCKED FENCES and GATES around the perimeter of school grounds. Eventually, we're imprisoning our own children under the misguided illusion of safety.
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Exactly, a mass schoolyard shooting will bring calls for LOCKED FENCES and GATES around the perimeter of school grounds. Eventually, we're imprisoning our own children under the misguided illusion of safety.
The thing is, you can eliminate all mass shootings. But you'd have to go to EXTREME lengths to do so.
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The thing is, you can eliminate all mass shootings. But you'd have to go to EXTREME lengths to do so.
You mean self-inflicted global thermo nuclear war? Let me get my modem hooked up to DARPNET and hack into their system. Together we can end mass shootings once and for all.
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Yes, the metal detector will eliminate the threat and keep our kids safe. Because there's no possible way a shooter could just walk onto any elementary school field during recess and have target practice. Or walk onto any bus. Or any bus stop. Or stand outside the school at dismissal. Or in the morning. Yes, the metal detector will stop a murderous lunatic from killing schoolchildren. ::)
So you sat there fine-toothing my "Maybe possible, haven't thought it through" alternative, yet ignored the previous 'armed security' suggestion altogether?
If you're really that upset about Cosby, I'd happily change my stance. Hate for your experience here to be ruined by a disagreement.
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You mean self-inflicted global thermo nuclear war? Let me get my modem hooked up to DARPNET and hack into their system. Together we can end mass shootings once and for all.
haha lol. Well, I meant mass SCHOOL shootings, but as you said, it would provide a false sense of security.
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So you sat there fine-toothing my "Maybe possible, haven't thought it through" alternative, yet ignored the previous 'armed security' suggestion altogether?
If you're really that upset about Cosby, I'd happily change my stance. Hate for your experience here to be ruined by a disagreement.
I don't even remember which way I trolled on the Cosby story. Thats ancient history bro. But yes, armed security is always good and unarmed security is always bad. Metal detectors are pretty good at detecting metal but chances are the guy with the assault rifle isn't going to wait his turn at the metal detector and put the rifle in a separate bin.
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I don't even remember which way I trolled on the Cosby story. Thats ancient history bro. But yes, armed security is always good and unarmed security is always bad. Metal detectors are pretty good at detecting metal but chances are the guy with the assault rifle isn't going to wait his turn at the metal detector and put the rifle in a separate bin.
Why does one have to exclude the other? You see no value in an unarmed airport detector?
We're not really disagreeing on much, seems you're just looking to spar.
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We're not really disagreeing on much, seems you're just looking to spar.
I think we agree on all the major issues. Fiorina over Carson, Dexter over Heath, Moons over Myhammy?
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Why does one have to exclude the other? You see no value in an unarmed airport detector?
We're not really disagreeing on much, seems you're just looking to spar.
Set it up.
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I think we agree on all the major issues. Fiorina over Carson, Dexter over Heath, Moons over Myhammy?
Common sense over either.
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Yes, the metal detector will eliminate the threat and keep our kids safe. Because there's no possible way a shooter could just walk onto any elementary school field during recess and have target practice. Or walk onto any bus. Or any bus stop. Or stand outside the school at dismissal. Or in the morning. Yes, the metal detector will stop a murderous lunatic from killing schoolchildren. ::)
Have ya seen what how many times the TSA failed to catch a gun? 95% failure rate!!! http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielreed/2015/06/08/the-tsas-95-failure-rate-be-carefull-what-you-ask-for-when-demanding-that-congress-do-something/
EDUCATE yourself please before opening your mouth with BS.
I agree a metal detector is a great thing IN addition to an armed guard or guards and even better if teachers have guns especially those who had prior military training etc.
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Have ya seen what how many times the TSA failed to catch a gun? 95% failure rate!!! http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielreed/2015/06/08/the-tsas-95-failure-rate-be-carefull-what-you-ask-for-when-demanding-that-congress-do-something/
EDUCATE yourself please before opening your mouth with BS.
I agree a metal detector is a great thing IN addition to an armed guard or guards and even better if teachers have guns especially those who had prior military training etc.
Then why the shitty dismissal one line above?
And they're already using detectors; they wand kids randomly at my gal's ghetto school. The deterrent factor is significant, so it may very well dissuade some knucklehead with a random, half-assed plan. But it ain't doing shit about an intent Harris or Klebold, because nothing will. Not this, not your campus cop, not the two combined.
Only sure thing is homeschooling. So either roll the dice with the next suicidal fuck, or exchange a semi-whatever education for the safety of Mom.
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Have ya seen what how many times the TSA failed to catch a gun? 95% failure rate!!! http://www.forbes.com/sites/danielreed/2015/06/08/the-tsas-95-failure-rate-be-carefull-what-you-ask-for-when-demanding-that-congress-do-something/
EDUCATE yourself please before opening your mouth with BS.
I agree a metal detector is a great thing IN addition to an armed guard or guards and even better if teachers have guns especially those who had prior military training etc.
Reading comprehension clearly not your strong point.
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Reading comprehension clearly not your strong point.
Stick to the topic at hand, no clue why you would post replies that were popular in 2001, posting "why is this news" would bring you more up to date.
Again, as hard as it is for you to focus and stay on topic, please post relevant replies.
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A single cop near the front and/or roaming near the front will stop most shootings very early on.
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He would be the first one to get kill .
(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/2-photoscops.jpg?w=300&h=200)
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Stick to the topic at hand, no clue why you would post replies that were popular in 2001, posting "why is this news" would bring you more up to date.
Again, as hard as it is for you to focus and stay on topic, please post relevant replies.
Your inability to detect sarcasm will require your avatar to wear a dunce cap.
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He would be the first one to get kill .
(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/2-photoscops.jpg?w=300&h=200)
Obviously not the same person at all. False flag for sure.
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I would rather suffer the tragedy of perpetually being 0.00000000001% at risk of a mass shooting, then be 100% at risk every day of having no freedom at all because the 'government' managed to limit the 0.0000000001% risk ::)
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I would rather suffer the tragedy of perpetually being 0.00000000001% at risk of a mass shooting, then be 100% at risk every day of having no freedom at all because the 'government' managed to limit the 0.0000000001% risk ::)
This.
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the main threat we'll all face isn't "mass" shooters. The main threat facing most americans is just random crime. Just happen to be on the corner when someone at the end of their rope needs a car, needs a wallet, or just wants to brutalize someone because they're messed up.
It's nice to be armed for either threat, though.
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