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Title: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Dos Equis on October 21, 2015, 02:34:57 PM
Maybe she will get some answers tomorrow?

Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
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Image: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied  House of Representatives interns carry photographs of former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty and U.S. Foreign Service IT specialist Sean Smith during a news July 23, 2013 in Washington, D.C. (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images) 
By Cathy Burke   
Wednesday, 21 Oct 2015

The mother of one of the four Americans killed in an attack on a diplomatic outpost in Benghazi in 2012 angrily condemned Hillary Clinton for "lying" in her previous congressional testimony about the bloodshed.

In an interview on "CNN Newsroom" the day before Clinton's expected appearance before the House Select Committee on Benghazi, Patricia Smith, mother of Sean Smith, exploded in anger after viewing a clip of Clinton's 2013 testimony.

The January 2013 clip shows Clinton asking members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee lawmakers what difference it made whether it was "a protest" or "some guys… who decide they go kill some Americans… it's our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from happening again."

An outraged Smith exploded, "She's lying! She's absolutely lying! She told me something entirely different" at a ceremony for her son.

"She said it was because of the video," she said, referring to initial Obama administration statements that a video ridiculing the prophet Mohammed had sparked the attack.

"I saw on TV the bloody fingerprints on the walls over there. I asked specifically, 'Are those my son's fingerprints crawling down the walls?'… Somebody's got to tell me...."

Smith said although Clinton promised to "get back to" her following her son's ceremony, she hasn't.

"She has not called me. She has not contacted me. She has not given me any information,"she said, "except to tell me that I am not a member of the immediate family and I do not need to know."

At the upcoming House Select Committee hearing, Smith said she needed Clinton "to make some answers."

A portion of the Smith's remarks were posted by Mediaite.

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Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on October 21, 2015, 02:37:41 PM
she could admit the whole thing and present emails showing obama ordered it, and you wimpy repubs still wouldn't impeach his illagal kenyan ass. 

yall just want to complain.  that's it.  obama should have been impeached for fast & furious.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 21, 2015, 10:32:03 PM
she could admit the whole thing and present emails showing obama ordered it, and you wimpy repubs still wouldn't impeach his illagal kenyan ass. 

yall just want to complain.  that's it.  obama should have been impeached for fast & furious.

Killary and Oloser should both be brought up on charges, found guilty and sentenced to death. But wait.....it was started by a video...oh wait, no it wasn't.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on October 21, 2015, 10:39:10 PM
Killary and Oloser should both be brought up on charges, found guilty and sentenced to death. But wait.....it was started by a video...oh wait, no it wasn't.


Hey man, I have said from MINUTE ONE that in my pinion, obama/hilary purposely went to fundraiser and let it happen so as to avoid headlines about whatever was going on there, and leaving 200 dead bad guys for the tv cameras.   So don't go pinning any of that bullshit on me.

The other thing to know is that there CANNOT BE CHARGES while they're still in office.  Impeachment must come first (for the 99th time).

Do you support impeachment NOW for obama?
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 21, 2015, 11:09:26 PM

Hey man, I have said from MINUTE ONE that in my pinion, obama/hilary purposely went to fundraiser and let it happen so as to avoid headlines about whatever was going on there, and leaving 200 dead bad guys for the tv cameras.   So don't go pinning any of that bullshit on me.

The other thing to know is that there CANNOT BE CHARGES while they're still in office.  Impeachment must come first (for the 99th time).

Do you support impeachment NOW for obama?

Then impeach, bring them to trial, sentence them then execute them. Do us all a favor.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on October 21, 2015, 11:25:29 PM
Then impeach, bring them to trial, sentence them then execute them. Do us all a favor.

hey man, you've moved to supporting impeachment. Props!
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Necrosis on October 22, 2015, 03:46:44 AM
someone should really look into this thing.


This angry mom that wants personal care from hillary clinton. Just like Bush visited and nursed the 100 plus victims of embassy attacks.

Hillary didn't call her, MORE TAX PAYER MONEY NEEDS TO BE SPENT!!!
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 22, 2015, 07:34:08 AM
someone should really look into this thing.


This angry mom that wants personal care from hillary clinton. Just like Bush visited and nursed the 100 plus victims of embassy attacks.

Hillary didn't call her, MORE TAX PAYER MONEY NEEDS TO BE SPENT!!!


it wasn't your kid that she got killed. But hey "what difference does it make now"
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on October 22, 2015, 07:36:38 AM
Hilary is guilty as shit. 

But Obama, cia chief, and head of state dept should be on that stand today.  But gowdy didn't bother with them. 

Why is that?   Cause they're not running for president. 
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Necrosis on October 22, 2015, 07:56:51 AM
it wasn't your kid that she got killed. But hey "what difference does it make now"

what difference does it make? he died, whether it was started by the video, rage, bad manners or otherwise, what sense does it make to drag this on?

It's cherry picking for political gain, it's not genuine concern for the parents.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on October 22, 2015, 09:59:51 AM
wow, the repubs have made 32 public release in this investigation... 27 of them named hilary.

tens of thousands of emails released... all hilary's.

they didnt even look at anyone else.  And they don't show she let anything happen.  They're mainly mad that the US Sec of State didn't jump to conclusions and make public the non-video thing, while a group was climaing, then un-claiming, the attack.

hilary should have been booted from office long ago, and I think she's guilty here... BUT these repubs have made her the sole focus, and their whole beef is hilary not releasing info (which showed to be untrue the following day). 

weak soup.  I predict those claiming victory over her later aren't actually watching it, they'll just blindly repeat what Rush tells them to think. 

Gowdy losing his cool at 1:00pm EST.   Sweaty and sarcastic, stuttering.  Clinton looks bored in her 9th benghazi investigation.

Gowdy clearly looks rattled.  Look at the tv.  sweating badly.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on October 22, 2015, 10:19:50 AM
Dem Rep Cummings begging "let's release ALL the email transcripts, don't cherry pick them"

Gowdy: "we'll have a meeting about that in a few weeks, not today".

Busted. Gowdy refuses to release ALL email transcripts he has.. easier to just release those from blumethal - cherry picked emails from only one person.   

Gowdy looking angry and rattled.  This is pretty good television.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Dos Equis on October 22, 2015, 11:02:09 AM
Link to the live hearing:  http://www.c-span.org/video/?328699-1/hillary-clinton-testimony-house-select-committee-benghazi&live
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on October 22, 2015, 11:15:42 AM
it's entertaining.  Gowdy and cummings were yelling at each other. 

Great point about congress not attacking reagan when beurit 83 attacks happened... they focused upon the actual bad guys who attacked.

Repubs are angrier at Clinton than they are against the terrorists.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 22, 2015, 07:57:10 PM
someone should really look into this thing.


This angry mom that wants personal care from hillary clinton. Just like Bush visited and nursed the 100 plus victims of embassy attacks.

Hillary didn't call her, MORE TAX PAYER MONEY NEEDS TO BE SPENT!!!


http://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-have-spent-more-on-origami-condoms-fat-lesbian-studies-than-benghazi-committee/
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 22, 2015, 08:08:48 PM
HAHAHAHA.  All the dimwit's hope for Hillary's demise has just evaporated.   Again.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 22, 2015, 08:31:19 PM
HAHAHAHA.  All the dimwit's hope for Hillary's demise has just evaporated.   Again.

Because dimwits like you will vote for her not knowing why just like you did Obama. Blind leading the blind or in this case the stupid leading the stupid.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on October 22, 2015, 08:38:05 PM
Gowdy was ineffective.  Terrible job.  hilary skates.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 22, 2015, 08:56:44 PM
Gowdy was ineffective.  Terrible job.  hilary skates.

lol....stacks of emails contradicting almost everything she said. She'll probably skate but she got her fat ASS handed to her today. Stacks of evidence against her word with a trust approval rating of what? lol.

Yet no one can say why they'll vote for her.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 22, 2015, 09:02:01 PM
lol....stacks of emails contradicting almost everything she said. She'll probably skate but she got her fat ASS handed to her today. Stacks of evidence against her word with a trust approval rating of what? lol.

Yet no one can say why they'll vote for her.

Further proof of your rampant stupidity. 

She sat there all those hours and laughed at the idiot Republicans trying to smear her and the idiot supporters like you that are so scared of her that you have to believe anything to calm your insecurities.

It must really suck to be that scared of a woman. 
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on October 22, 2015, 09:30:01 PM
I remember a longtime Getbigger with shocking quote "I want the govt to lie to us about things sometimes".  I Pointed it out back then, he knows who he is.  When team dubya said certain things to dissuade bad guys while a fresh crime was being investigated, we just called it smart tactics, right?  ;-)

Fact is, a terror group claimed guilt the day of attack and then Unclaimed guilt the next day, correct?

No proof today of any stand down order.  That was the smoking gun which Gowdy needed.  No luck.  Of course Obama is guilty but gowdy didn't put him or many others on the stand.  This was a "shit on Hilary for something we cannot prove" exercise.  Period.  
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Necrosis on October 23, 2015, 05:55:26 AM
lol....stacks of emails contradicting almost everything she said. She'll probably skate but she got her fat ASS handed to her today. Stacks of evidence against her word with a trust approval rating of what? lol.

Yet no one can say why they'll vote for her.

ya stacks of doctored emails... you believe that she had something to do with this? or had some hand in it?

what specifically is her fault?
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 23, 2015, 08:56:47 AM
HAHAHAHAHA.... stacks of emails.   HAHAHAHHA... contradicting her.   

HAHAHAHAA.... if they had stacks of emails supporting her guilt, why didn't they use them against her?

HAHAHAHAHAHA.....  dumb ass excuses from a dumb ass person.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Dos Equis on October 23, 2015, 10:05:09 AM
I knew she lied about the video being the cause of the attack before yesterday's hearing, but I didn't know she had admitted on the night of the attack it was not related to the video.  This is as close to a smoking gun as you will get showing someone was being flat out dishonest. 

13 Shocking Revelations From Hillary's Benghazi Hearing
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Image: 13 Shocking Revelations From Hillary's Benghazi Hearing Democratic presidential candidate and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton testifies before the House Select Committee on Benghazi October 22, 2015 on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C. (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
By Nick Sanchez   
Friday, 23 Oct 2015 1

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton testified to the House Select Committee on Benghazi for a grueling 11 hours on Thursday.

During the hearing, congressional panelists sought to hold her accountable for her role in the Sept. 11, 2012, terrorist attacks on the diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens, U.S. Foreign Service Information Management Officer Sean Smith, and two CIA contractors, Tyrone S. Woods and Glen Doherty.

1. Clinton originated the false narrative about a YouTube video protest — Using Clinton's emails and calls as proof, Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, accused her of lying to the American people, telling them that the incident in Benghazi was a protest that got out of hand, instead of what it really was: a terrorist attack.

"So if there's no evidence for a video-inspired protest, then where did the false narrative start? It started with you, Madam Secretary," said Jordan, Real Clear Politics reported. "Here's what you said at 11 o'clock that night, approximately one hour after you told the American people it was a video, you say to your family, 'Two officers were killed today in Benghazi by an al-Qaida- like group.' You tell — you tell the American people one thing, you tell your family an entirely different story. Also on the night of the attack, you had a call with the president of Libya. Here's what you said to him: 'Ansar al-Sharia is claiming responsibility.' It's interesting; Mr. Khattala, one of the guys arrested in charge actually belonged to that group. And finally, most significantly, the next day, within 24 hours, you had a conversation with the Egyptian prime minister. You told him this: 'We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack, not a protest.'"

2. Clinton avoided responsibility for Stevens' death — "I was responsible for sending Chris Stevens to Libya. I was responsible for supporting a temporary facility in Benghazi," Clinton said during her testimony, The Kansas City Star reported. "I was not responsible for specific security requests and decisions," she concluded, saying that some of the Benghazi outfit's security requests were granted after departmental review, while others were not.

"Chris Stevens had an opportunity to reach me anytime he thought there was something of importance," she said, adding that Stevens and his team in Benghazi "very well understood the dangers that they were confronting. They did the best they could under the circumstances that they were confronting."

3. Clinton likely never spoke to Stevens — Asked by Rep. Susan Brooks, R-Indiana, if she'd ever spoken to Stevens between his swearing-in in May 2012 and before his death on Sept. 11, 2012, Clinton responded "Yes, I believe I did. I don't recall," CNN reported. In turn, Brooks responded, "Had you talked to him in July, he would have told you that he had asked to keep the security in Libya that he had. He was told no by your State Department."

4. Stevens didn't have Clinton's email address — "I do not believe he had my personal email . . . He had the direct line to people he had worked with for years," Clinton admitted to the Benghazi committee, according to the Boston Herald.

5. Clinton said she "knew and admired" Chris Stevens, but called him "Chris Smith" on night of his death — Clinton claimed she "knew and admired" Stevens during her opening statement, and later told the congressional panel she'd "lost more sleep than all of you put together" over the terrorist attack that killed him. Recently disclosed emails show, however, that she didn't get his name right on the night of the attack. In an email to her top aides, she called him "Chris Smith," possibly conflating Chris Stevens and diplomat Sean Smith, who was also killed that night, The Daily Caller reported.

6. Clinton knew "nothing" about Stevens’ meeting with al-Qaida affiliate — "Were you aware that our folks were either wittingly or unwittingly meeting on the ground with members of al-Qaida hours before the attack?" Rep. Mike Pompeo, R-Kansas, asked Clinton. "I know nothing about this, Congressman," Clinton replied, according to National Review.

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7. Sidney Blumenthal had direct access to Clinton; Stevens did not — "A man who was a friend of yours, who had never been to Libya, didn't know much about it, at least that was his testimony, didn't know much about it, every one of those reports that he sent on to you that had to do with situations on the ground in Libya, those made it to your desk," said Rep. Mike Pompeo, R-Kansas, according to Politico. "You asked for more of them. You read them. You corresponded with him. And yet the folks that worked for you didn't have the same courtesy."

8. Blumenthal was Clinton's "most prolific emailer on Libya" — "The documents show he was your most prolific emailer on Libya and Benghazi, and my question to you is did the president, the same White House that said you can’t hire him, did he know that he was advising you?" committed chairman Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-South Carolina, asked Clinton. "He was not advising me, and I have no reason to have ever mentioned that or know that the president knew that," said Clinton, according to Townhall.com.

9. President Barack Obama's White House didn't know Blumenthal was emailing Clinton — "What was he doing when you hired him when the White House rejected him?" Gowdy asked Clinton, according to RushLimbaugh.com. "He was, in fact, working for my husband," said Clinton. Gowdy clarified, asking, "So he was working for The Clinton Foundation?" Clinton responded, "Yes, that's right, Mr. Chairman." In the year following the 2012 Benghazi attacks, the William J. Clinton Foundation was renamed the Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation.

10. Blumenthal's emails weren't entirely unsolicited — Clinton denied during the hearing that Sidney Blumenthal advised her on Libya, but admitted she responded to his emails "Thanks and please keep them coming," "Greetings from Kabul and thanks for keeping this stuff coming, any other info about it?" and "What are you hearing now?" She also said she frequently forwarded his intelligence to colleagues, oftentimes redacting his name so they wouldn't know the source.

11. Clinton says she didn't know where Blumenthal's intel was coming from — "I don’t know where he got the information," Clinton said of Sidney Bluementhal, who'd never been to Libya himself. "I did learn later that he was talking to . . . former American intelligence officials."

12. The committee doesn't have all of Stevens' emails — "I might add for the record: we do not, still, to this day, have all of Chris Stevens' emails," Rep. Susan Brooks, R-Indiana, said to Clinton, according to Mediate. "We received 1,300 more this week, we received most of them last week. We don't have the universe, yet, of Ambassador Stevens' emails."

13. Clinton suggested Stevens was joking about security — "One of the great attributes that Chris Stevens had was a really good sense of humor. And I just see him smiling as he’s typing this [email], because it is clearly in response to the email down below talking about picking up a few 'fire sale' items from the Brits," Clinton said about one of Stevens' December emails, Mediate reported. Rep. Susan Brooks, R-Indiana, did not think Clinton's suggestion was at all funny. "Those 'fire sale' items, by the way, are barricades. They are additional requests for security for the compound," she told Clinton.

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/hillary-clinton-benghazi-hearing-revelations/2015/10/23/id/697712/#ixzz3pPZaoqWg
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 23, 2015, 11:10:15 AM
HAHAHAHA.  All the dimwit's hope for Hillary's demise has just evaporated.   Again.

Those hearings won't be her demise, it will be the FBI investigation. These hearings were about whether she knew about why she never did anything about the security or if she is TOTALLY incompetent. 
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 23, 2015, 11:13:47 AM
ya stacks of doctored emails... you believe that she had something to do with this? or had some hand in it?

what specifically is her fault?

Those emails were sitting right there for everyone to see. If they thought they were doctored don't you think for one minute one those idiot dems would have requested to go through them?

'What specifically is her fault"? seriously? At the very LEAST gross negligence.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 23, 2015, 11:21:22 AM
Those hearings won't be her demise, it will be the FBI investigation. These hearings were about whether she knew about why she never did anything about the security or if she is TOTALLY incompetent. 


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA.  Keep telling yourself that.  It helps you cope with the crushing depression of your insecurities.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 23, 2015, 11:26:52 AM
Gross Negligence
An indifference to, and a blatant violation of, a legal duty with respect to the rights of others.
Gross negligence is a conscious and voluntary disregard of the need to use reasonable care, which is likely to cause foreseeable grave injury or harm to persons, property, or both. It is conduct that is extreme when compared with ordinary Negligence, which is a mere failure to exercise reasonable care. Ordinary negligence and gross negligence differ in degree of inattention, while both differ from willful and wanton conduct, which is conduct that is reasonably considered to cause injury. This distinction is important, since contributory negligence—a lack of care by the plaintiff that combines with the defendant's conduct to cause the plaintiff's injury and completely bar his or her action—is not a defense to willful and wanton conduct but is a defense to gross negligence. In addition, a finding of willful and wanton misconduct usually supports a recovery of Punitive Damages, whereas gross negligence does not.
West's Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved.
gross negligence
n. carelessness in reckless disregard for the safety or lives of others, which is so great it appears to be a conscious violation of other people's rights to safety. It is more than simple inadvertence, but it is just shy of being intentionally evil. If one has borrowed or contracted to take care of another's property, then gross negligence is the failure to actively take the care one would of his/her own property. If gross negligence is found by the trier of fact (judge or jury), it can result in the award of punitive damages on top of general and special damages. (See: negligence, damages, punitive damages)
Copyright © 1981-2005 by Gerald N. Hill and Kathleen T. Hill. All Right reserved.
GROSS NEGLIGENCE. Lata culpa, or, as the Roman lawyers most accurately call it) dolo proxima, is, in practice, considered as equivalent to dolus or fraud itself, and consists, according to the best interpreters, in the omission of that care which even inattentive and thoughtless men never fail to take of their own property. Jones on Bailments, 20. It must not be confounded, however, with fraud, for it may exist consistently with good faith and honesty of intention, according to common law authorities.
A Law Dictionary, Adapted to the Constitution and Laws of the United States. By John Bouvier. Published 1856.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Gross+Negligence
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 23, 2015, 11:32:45 AM
Because dimwits like you will vote for her not knowing why just like you did Obama. Blind leading the blind or in this case the stupid leading the stupid.

Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on October 23, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
gowdy admitted they got nothing new.

if he didn't accept this job knowing he could do anything other than "remind everyone", then he's ineffective and worthless.



you put in jason chaffertz, he'll be effective.  Gowdy was out of his league and all but vindicated her.  

and it's nuts for anyone to think she skates on benghazi but somehow gets busted for email server lol.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 23, 2015, 12:35:03 PM
VINDICATED.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.   
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Dos Equis on October 23, 2015, 01:22:50 PM
Diary entry from Benghazi victim’s dad: ‘I gave Hillary a hug,’ she blamed filmmaker
By  Catherine Herridge,  Pamela Browne
Published October 23, 2015
FoxNews.com
 
A day after new records were made public showing Hillary Clinton said from the start the 2012 Benghazi attack was not linked to an obscure anti-Islam film, the father of a former Navy SEAL killed that night told Fox News she blamed the filmmaker for his son's death in a conversation with him.

Charles Woods, father of Ty Woods, who died defending the CIA annex, shared with Fox News the diary notes he took after his encounter with Clinton during the ceremony on Sept. 14, 2012, when the bodies were flown back to the U.S.

"I gave Hillary a hug and shook her hand. And she said we are going to have the film maker arrested who was responsible for the death of my son," the entry says.

"She said -- the filmmaker who was responsible for the death of your son," Woods emphasized as he read his diary entry. Woods attended Thursday's hearing where the former secretary of state testified to the Benghazi congressional committee.

"She wasn't saying the failed foreign policy that I was responsible for. It wasn't her taking the blame for it. It says we are going to place the responsibility [for] the death of your son on the filmmaker," he said.

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Shown here are the notes Charles Woods took after meeting with then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Woods' account of what Clinton told him contradicts what then-Secretary Clinton reported to her own family, as well as senior Libyan and Egyptian government officials.

Citing an email Clinton sent to her daughter Chelsea the night of the attack, Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, said at Thursday's hearing that she told them, "Two officers were killed today in Benghazi by an Al Qaeda-like group.''

Further, Jordan said she told the Egyptian prime minister the next day that they knew the attack was "planned" and had "nothing to do with the film."

One day after then-U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice said on five Sunday talk shows that the attack grew out of a protest over the film, Fox News was first to report on Sept. 17, 2012, based on an intelligence source on the ground in Libya, that there was no protest outside the Benghazi consulate.

Yet, at the hearing, Clinton blamed the "fog of war" for confusion about what happened, and conflicting accounts, though her own statements to her family and foreign government leaders suggest otherwise.

And she pushed back on the notion that she directly blamed the video, stressing that she said in a statement that night that some had sought to use the video to justify the attack.

"I used those words deliberately, not to ascribe a motive to every attacker but as a warning to those across the region that there was no justification for further attacks," she said.

She said they were dealing with "fluid" and "fast-moving" and "conflicting" information that night. She also said there were probably many motivations, suggesting the video may still have motivated some attackers.

Woods said Clinton either lied to her family and senior leaders of foreign governments, or to the victims' families and the American people. He said her lack of candor disqualifies Clinton from being promoted to the nation's top job.

"In order to follow a leader, as a commander-in-chief, the military needs to trust what their leader says. They're putting lives on the line. They have to know that what she says is true in order for them to be able to sacrifice their lives," Woods said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/10/23/diary-entry-from-benghazi-victims-dad-gave-hillary-hug-blamed-filmmaker/?intcmp=hpbt1
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Dos Equis on October 23, 2015, 01:31:29 PM
Stephen Hayes: Benghazi Hearing Shows Hillary's Lies But Media Yawn At Revelation
By Ken Shepherd
October 22, 2015

"[T]he lead from the day so far is Hillary Clinton repeatedly offers false or misleading testimony, and journalists yawn," Stephen Hayes of the conservative Weekly Standard argued on tonight's edition of Fox News Channel's Special Report with Bret Baier.

Hayes then cited just one of many examples of evidence coming to light showing the then-Secretary of State was decidedly less-than-truthful at the very best in the aftermath of the fatal terrorist attack in Benghazi.

Here's the relevant transcript (h/t my colleague Curtis Houck):

FNC Special Report w/ Bret Baier Oct. 22, 2015; 6:08 p.m. Eastern -

STEPHEN HAYES, Weekly Standard: I would say the lead from the day so far is Hillary Clinton repeatedly offers false or misleading testimony, and journalists yawn. Journalists just don't seem to be that interested in what she's been saying. And I'll give you one example in particular. Secretary Clinton was presented with emails from Representative Jim Jordan. Um, an email that she sent to Hillary Clinton on the night of the attack, September 11, 2012. Saying that it was an Al Qaeda attack.

BRET BAIER, anchor: Sent to Chelsea.

STEPHEN HAYES: Sent to Chelsea Clinton, I'm sorry, Hillary Clinton to Chelsea Clinton. Saying it was an al Qaeda attack. And then this memo taken by a State Department note-taker. Recording a conversation between Hillary Clinton and the Egyptian Prime Minister September 12. In both of those instances, Hillary Clinton is saying this was an attack. This was not a protest. She said in the phone conversation with the Egyptian foreign minister and said that it had nothing to do with the video. And yet, two days later on September 14, when she greets the caskets at Joint Base Andrews in suburban Washington, D.C., she tells some of the family members of those killed in Benghazi that she and the government were determined to get the filmmaker who was responsible for the death of their children. You can't have it both ways. -

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/ken-shepherd/2015/10/22/stephen-hayes-benghazi-hearing-shows-hillarys-lies-media-yawn#sthash.GVh20Gp5.dpuf
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Necrosis on October 23, 2015, 01:59:12 PM
The fucking brutal partisanship on display here is hilarious. Come back to reality when you get a chance.

now it's parents saying she said things during hugs, or that her foreign policy is to blame. As if some other foreign policy has ever stopped embassy attacks. In fact , Obama's tenure has seen far fewer then Bush.

It's like you need someone to blame, embassy's are dangerous places depending on the SEC
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: headhuntersix on October 23, 2015, 02:08:42 PM
Ok enough dude enough. Your bullshit understand of the world and how things work is fucking astounding. They asked for extra security over 600 times because they were conducting off the books movements and missions in order to support the growing rebel movement in Syria. This wasn't some consulate whining about sand bags. The mom in question was a dem, she wanted and is owed answers and fucking Hil and the gov lied...outright lied as to the cause of operation. The lie is so ridiculous it fell apart within  a few days.  Again she has failed to take any responsibility for any of this...fuck Obama's idiots tweeted yesterday that Obama didn't authorize the mission that freed hostages in Iraq and got a Delta guy killed. Nothing bad has ever been the fault of Obama or Hil...nobody ever got fired over what happened. When the Beiruit bombing killed all those Marines...PX Kelly was set to be the first Marine head of the Joint Chiefs...nope! Blame, how ever unconnected was assigned and people lost their jobs. Nobody is at the wheel in Washington, the world is on fire and you fucks could care less. You'd all shit yourselves if you ever encountered anything remotely like this.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Dos Equis on October 23, 2015, 02:12:51 PM
She clearly lied when she blamed the attack on a youtube video and claimed the attack was by an angry mob (see 1:00 to 1:25 and 1:35):



Before she made the above statements, she said this:

"So if there's no evidence for a video-inspired protest, then where did the false narrative start? It started with you, Madam Secretary," said Jordan, Real Clear Politics reported. "Here's what you said at 11 o'clock that night, approximately one hour after you told the American people it was a video, you say to your family, 'Two officers were killed today in Benghazi by an al-Qaida- like group.' You tell — you tell the American people one thing, you tell your family an entirely different story. Also on the night of the attack, you had a call with the president of Libya. Here's what you said to him: 'Ansar al-Sharia is claiming responsibility.' It's interesting; Mr. Khattala, one of the guys arrested in charge actually belonged to that group. And finally, most significantly, the next day, within 24 hours, you had a conversation with the Egyptian prime minister. You told him this: 'We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack, not a protest.'"


Blatant dishonesty. 
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 23, 2015, 07:16:16 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.  Maybe you will get the results you want at the next hearing.  Or the 22nd one.

Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 23, 2015, 09:20:42 PM
Facts mean nothing to liberals. they were raised and brainwashed with zero integrity, not knowing right from wrong. They never will.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 23, 2015, 10:03:52 PM
Facts mean nothing to liberals. they were raised and brainwashed with zero integrity, not knowing right from wrong. They never will.

this from a guy who says Obama is a Muslim...you're hypocrisy is astounding
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 23, 2015, 10:17:42 PM
this from a guy who says Obama is a Muslim...you're hypocrisy is astounding

Keep searching. One day you'll see the light but then again if you're a lib your integrity will ALWAYS be in question. It's not too late to learn right from wrong.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 23, 2015, 10:46:43 PM
Keep searching. One day you'll see the light but then again if you're a lib your integrity will ALWAYS be in question. It's not too late to learn right from wrong.

I'm not a lib.. just interested in truth and facts.. something that seems to escape folks like you. Whether I WANT something to be true doesn't make it true.. something you should remember
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on October 23, 2015, 11:49:04 PM
Repubs are mad because she told americans one motive, and gave our leaders another.  Yes, an american politician didn't reveal 100% of the facts to the people immediately.  So say it.  we don't want any info held back, nothing classified... we demand 100% transparency with everything.  no more closed door anything.  RIght?  ???  A terror group claimed responsibility, then took it back.   the govt fed us a bullshit narrative -

so either NO MORE LIES ON ANYTHING, or you accept bullshit sometimes as you sort it out.  Either is find, just freakin decide.

THEY ARE NOT MAD OVER A STANDOWN ORDER< AS THEY SHOULD BE!!
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Coach is Back! on October 24, 2015, 12:10:16 AM
I'm not a lib.. just interested in truth and facts.. something that seems to escape folks like you. Whether I WANT something to be true doesn't make it true.. something you should remember

They did present facts and all she came back with hear say. While Goudy and the repubs were showing facts in the of emails she presented nothing and changing her story during the hearings several times and contradicting herself. Before one of the recesses it was an attack after it was the video. For 10 + days the minions like Susan Rice were on a bunch of networks saying it was a video. Later that was proven and admitted to be complete bullshit.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 24, 2015, 12:38:15 AM
They did present facts and all she came back with hear say. While Goudy and the repubs were showing facts in the of emails she presented nothing and changing her story during the hearings several times and contradicting herself. Before one of the recesses it was an attack after it was the video. For 10 + days the minions like Susan Rice were on a bunch of networks saying it was a video. Later that was proven and admitted to be complete bullshit.

I'm not addressing whether she lied or not, I'm addressing your hypocrisy of "Facts mean nothing to libs.." and you are adamant Obama is a Muslim in spite of the evidence he is not. Where is YOUR integrity?
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 24, 2015, 01:04:14 AM
MIAMI — Donald Trump came out swinging after two Iowa polls found his numbers slipping behind Ben Carson, and on Friday he attacked the retired retired neurosurgeon on his use of super PAC money

Trump told a few thousand attendees at his Doral resort that he’s not going anywhere — and that he isn’t so sure about the veracity of those poll numbers.

“I love Iowa,” Trump said. “I honestly think those polls are wrong.” Trump then said that the two polling groups responsible for the numbers, Quinnipiac and Bloomberg, “do not like me.”

RELATED: Donald Trump says no to super PACs, demands others do same

Trump has, however, previously touted these same polling institutions this election cycle, frequently citing them in speeches while discussing his lead.

In Las Vegas earlier this month, Trump called Quinnipiac a “great polling company” and “the real deal.” At another event in Waterloo, Iowa, Trump called Quinnipiac polls, along with Reuters, “big” and “respected polls.”



Republican integrity...  ;)
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Necrosis on October 24, 2015, 04:31:22 AM
Ok enough dude enough. Your bullshit understand of the world and how things work is fucking astounding. They asked for extra security over 600 times because they were conducting off the books movements and missions in order to support the growing rebel movement in Syria. This wasn't some consulate whining about sand bags. The mom in question was a dem, she wanted and is owed answers and fucking Hil and the gov lied...outright lied as to the cause of operation. The lie is so ridiculous it fell apart within  a few days.  Again she has failed to take any responsibility for any of this...fuck Obama's idiots tweeted yesterday that Obama didn't authorize the mission that freed hostages in Iraq and got a Delta guy killed. Nothing bad has ever been the fault of Obama or Hil...nobody ever got fired over what happened. When the Beiruit bombing killed all those Marines...PX Kelly was set to be the first Marine head of the Joint Chiefs...nope! Blame, how ever unconnected was assigned and people lost their jobs. Nobody is at the wheel in Washington, the world is on fire and you fucks could care less. You'd all shit yourselves if you ever encountered anything remotely like this.




You mean the funding the HOUSE GOP cut funding for? get your fucking facts right before you tell someone they don't understand something, the house denied Obama's full request. Are you just being made aware of Benghazi? you have no jumped from (in multiple threads) a stand down order (ONE WAS NEVER GIVEN), funding which was the right's fault, and now the video etc.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/10/jason-chaffetz-embassy_n_1954912.html

So now your outrage is about this mother, you sound like a child, she wants answers. Maybe there were no accurate ones at the time, perhaps people where actually doing their job and trying to sort things out. Why does it matter if a video or something else did it to her anyway? her son was killed by horrible people, in a situation that was extremely dangerous and yet he went on his own volition.

The emails (before you go there) are shown to be doctored, they would not release the full transcripts yet you still trust them? these are the people who feed you the stand down lie, the lie about funding, the 8 hearings, the freudian slip of stating this was all political, wasting 4.5 million for a political witch hunt (9/11 had 2 hearsing LMAO).

You need to grow up and come to the real world, the one where the government doesn't exist, you don't have to follow what others say, and you think for yourself (may never happen). True enlightenment as Kant stated is in man using his own reason. You probably work for someone, take orders and follow.

Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 24, 2015, 06:57:52 AM
Facts mean nothing to liberals. they were raised and brainwashed with zero integrity, not knowing right from wrong. They never will.

Facts?  Oh you mean those things that hurt you like sunlight hurts vampires?   Birther.  HAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on October 24, 2015, 07:07:05 AM
Hmmm....so Hillary Clinton is responsible for their deaths eh???  Amazing how she was able to go to Libya and shoot mortar rounds and lead the terrorist to storm the compound.... ::)
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Necrosis on October 24, 2015, 12:50:50 PM
She clearly lied when she blamed the attack on a youtube video and claimed the attack was by an angry mob (see 1:00 to 1:25 and 1:35):



Before she made the above statements, she said this:

"So if there's no evidence for a video-inspired protest, then where did the false narrative start? It started with you, Madam Secretary," said Jordan, Real Clear Politics reported. "Here's what you said at 11 o'clock that night, approximately one hour after you told the American people it was a video, you say to your family, 'Two officers were killed today in Benghazi by an al-Qaida- like group.' You tell — you tell the American people one thing, you tell your family an entirely different story. Also on the night of the attack, you had a call with the president of Libya. Here's what you said to him: 'Ansar al-Sharia is claiming responsibility.' It's interesting; Mr. Khattala, one of the guys arrested in charge actually belonged to that group. And finally, most significantly, the next day, within 24 hours, you had a conversation with the Egyptian prime minister. You told him this: 'We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack, not a protest.'"


Blatant dishonesty. 






It;s called conjecture, she was not lying if she was informed to provide the narrative for strategic purposes, or say she didn't have all the information. Is this the reason for your anger? this is worth 4.5million dollars of tax payer money?

Grow up.


Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 24, 2015, 02:16:38 PM
Hmmm....so Hillary Clinton is responsible for their deaths eh???  Amazing how she was able to go to Libya and shoot mortar rounds and lead the terrorist to storm the compound.... ::)

She's has full credit for their deaths.  Even though she didn't pull the trigger herself or was even there.
Obama gets no credit for Bin Laden.   Even though he didn't pull the trigger himself or was even there.

Republican logic....   
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Dos Equis on October 26, 2015, 09:41:56 AM





It;s called conjecture, she was not lying if she was informed to provide the narrative for strategic purposes, or say she didn't have all the information. Is this the reason for your anger? this is worth 4.5million dollars of tax payer money?

Grow up.




Integrity matters.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 26, 2015, 09:48:28 AM
She's has full credit for their deaths.  Even though she didn't pull the trigger herself or was even there.
Obama gets no credit for Bin Laden.   Even though he didn't pull the trigger himself or was even there.

Republican logic....   

excellent point. The sad thing is, somewhere along the line Americans got divided into 2 groups.. each thinks the other is retarded. Coach is a good example. He uses phrases like lib tards when speaking of those who don't share his personal philosophy on politics. When did it become the norm to vilify those who have a different view on subjects like abortion or religion? Where does the hate come from?
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: LurkerNoMore on October 26, 2015, 10:36:29 AM
Crips and Bloods on a national scale bro.   "Stuff happens".
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Las Vegas on October 26, 2015, 11:30:34 AM
excellent point. The sad thing is, somewhere along the line Americans got divided into 2 groups.. each thinks the other is retarded. Coach is a good example. He uses phrases like lib tards when speaking of those who don't share his personal philosophy on politics. When did it become the norm to vilify those who have a different view on subjects like abortion or religion? Where does the hate come from?

It is horrible.  It's on way more than abortion and religion, even.  People will use even the slightest difference in opinion to immediately label someone as a "libtard" or whatever's the other way around.  Screaming matches at family reunions and not a word of it is productive.

It's on the few dozen sleazebags whose decisions carry ALL the weight in media operations.  All of them super-rich, of course.  All of them with the same opinions on things that affect the "little people" (us).
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Dos Equis on November 02, 2015, 03:18:07 PM
Benghazi Victim’s Father Speaks  Out, SLAMS ‘Scumbag’ Hillary Clinton
Sela T
Monday, November 2, 2015

The Benghazi attacks have been a circus in the media—but the one story that liberals are forgetting to tell are the ones of the victims’ families. It is curious, to think of how the families of the heroes fallen themselves…have not been given a public voice by liberal media.

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“She’s a scumbag, in my opinion,” said Ben Doherty in an interview with NECN published to coincide with Clinton’s testimony on Thursday before the House Select Committee on Benghazi.

“Well I think that she pulled all the troops out of the embassy, he had no backup. He burnt alive. She said it’s no big deal, it’s a big deal to me, he’s my son and I loved him.”

Glen Doherty’s mother and the former wife of Ben, Barbara Doherty, is one of the few Benghazi family members to speak out in support of Clinton, telling NECN:

“”They’re looking at the wrong place. If you read carefully what was going on, many people made many mistakes, which is normal in confusion. After a few days, the facts were out, and they’re really chasing the wrong person.””

“”They’re hoping to defeat her and it’s not going to work.””

The Doherty family is working to close a loophole that mandates single federal contractors carry insurance but does not pay out death benefits if the contractor has no children or spouse, reported the Boston Globe.

“As an independent contractor who was unmarried and without children, Doherty was ineligible to receive death benefits afforded to military personnel under the Defense Base Act of 1941, although he was employed by the CIA, she said.

“The family is working with Congressman Stephen F. Lynch to craft a law that would remove those barriers.

“On Jan. 26, Lynch introduced The Glen Anthony Doherty Overseas Security Personnel Fairness Act.

“It is unacceptable that the Defense Base Act requires federal workers to take out an insurance policy before they are deployed overseas and accepts the payment of insurance premiums from those workers, but fails to provide death benefits to their families or estate solely based on marital and child status,” Lynch stated on his website.”

I can not imagine losing one of my children to a death that could have been prevented and then the leadership of the very country they fought for to throw up smoke screens of lies to cover their own butt.

http://patriotupdate.com/benghazi-victims-father-speaks-out-slams-scumbag-hillary-clinton/
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Straw Man on November 02, 2015, 03:33:33 PM
Benghazi Victim’s Father Speaks  Out, SLAMS ‘Scumbag’ Hillary Clinton
Sela T
Monday, November 2, 2015

The Benghazi attacks have been a circus in the media—but the one story that liberals are forgetting to tell are the ones of the victims’ families. It is curious, to think of how the families of the heroes fallen themselves…have not been given a public voice by liberal media.

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“She’s a scumbag, in my opinion,” said Ben Doherty in an interview with NECN published to coincide with Clinton’s testimony on Thursday before the House Select Committee on Benghazi.

“Well I think that she pulled all the troops out of the embassy, he had no backup. He burnt alive. She said it’s no big deal, it’s a big deal to me, he’s my son and I loved him.”

Glen Doherty’s mother and the former wife of Ben, Barbara Doherty, is one of the few Benghazi family members to speak out in support of Clinton, telling NECN:

“”They’re looking at the wrong place. If you read carefully what was going on, many people made many mistakes, which is normal in confusion. After a few days, the facts were out, and they’re really chasing the wrong person.””

“”They’re hoping to defeat her and it’s not going to work.””

The Doherty family is working to close a loophole that mandates single federal contractors carry insurance but does not pay out death benefits if the contractor has no children or spouse, reported the Boston Globe.

“As an independent contractor who was unmarried and without children, Doherty was ineligible to receive death benefits afforded to military personnel under the Defense Base Act of 1941, although he was employed by the CIA, she said.

“The family is working with Congressman Stephen F. Lynch to craft a law that would remove those barriers.

“On Jan. 26, Lynch introduced The Glen Anthony Doherty Overseas Security Personnel Fairness Act.

“It is unacceptable that the Defense Base Act requires federal workers to take out an insurance policy before they are deployed overseas and accepts the payment of insurance premiums from those workers, but fails to provide death benefits to their families or estate solely based on marital and child status,” Lynch stated on his website.”

I can not imagine losing one of my children to a death that could have been prevented and then the leadership of the very country they fought for to throw up smoke screens of lies to cover their own butt.

http://patriotupdate.com/benghazi-victims-father-speaks-out-slams-scumbag-hillary-clinton/

That claim should be pretty easy to prove

If Clinton controls troops and has given orders moving them around I'm sure the Republicans have that info

Does anyone recall them providing the evidence in the hearing last week?
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on November 02, 2015, 04:00:17 PM
Benghazi Victim’s Father Speaks  Out, SLAMS ‘Scumbag’ Hillary Clinton

I remember how enthusiastic republicans were to the 911 widows. 
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Dos Equis on November 03, 2015, 08:56:04 AM
I remember how enthusiastic republicans were to the 911 widows. 

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Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Necrosis on November 03, 2015, 10:23:10 AM
Integrity matters.

And absolutely zero people on any of those committees have any, where is the integrity in dragging this out for political gain? there is literally no other reason.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Dos Equis on November 03, 2015, 11:18:41 AM
And absolutely zero people on any of those committees have any, where is the integrity in dragging this out for political gain? there is literally no other reason.

To get to the truth.  One thing her testimony showed is she, the President, and Susan Rice blatantly lied to the American people and the families of the victims when blaming that attack on a spontaneous demonstration caused by an internet video. 
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 03, 2015, 01:05:14 PM
The only thing those 11 hours of hearings showed was the next President Of The United States and how casually she bitch slaps hypocrites and their smear tactics.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Necrosis on November 03, 2015, 01:14:34 PM
To get to the truth.  One thing her testimony showed is she, the President, and Susan Rice blatantly lied to the American people and the families of the victims when blaming that attack on a spontaneous demonstration caused by an internet video. 

to get to the truth? so something they outwardly stated in PUBLIC required 8 separate investigations? it also may not have been a lie, nor are they required to tell the truth.

I see a complete lack of integrity and some half assed attempts at finding fault.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 03, 2015, 01:31:32 PM
to get to the truth? so something they outwardly stated in PUBLIC required 8 separate investigations? it also may not have been a lie, nor are they required to tell the truth.

I see a complete lack of integrity and some half assed attempts at finding fault.


To get to their version of the truth.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Straw Man on November 03, 2015, 02:12:07 PM
To get to the truth.  One thing her testimony showed is she, the President, and Susan Rice blatantly lied to the American people and the families of the victims when blaming that attack on a spontaneous demonstration caused by an internet video. 

we already knew of that discrepancy in that part of the story long before the hearing

I'm amazed you never knew that until the hearing

heck, it's been discussed ad nauseam on this very board

Is this one of those thing you pretend you didn't already know?
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Dos Equis on November 03, 2015, 02:16:17 PM
to get to the truth? so something they outwardly stated in PUBLIC required 8 separate investigations? it also may not have been a lie, nor are they required to tell the truth.

I see a complete lack of integrity and some half assed attempts at finding fault.

Hillary did not outwardly state in public that she lied.  She blamed it on the "fog of war."  Now we know she and the administration were being deliberately deceitful. 

Then there were the hundreds of requests for extra security that fell on deaf ears.

Oftentimes, multiple investigations are required when people are covering up the truth. 
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on November 03, 2015, 02:28:47 PM
remember how rattled and sweaty trey gowdy looked afterwards?  almost inbred. 

the repub nominee COULD have hammered hilary on benghazi - but not anymore.

after 8 investigations, and 11 hours of straight examination, gowdy admitted they got nothing,
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Straw Man on November 03, 2015, 02:49:27 PM
remember how rattled and sweaty trey gowdy looked afterwards?  almost inbred. 

the repub nominee COULD have hammered hilary on benghazi - but not anymore.

after 8 investigations, and 11 hours of straight examination, gowdy admitted they got nothing,

You don't think the Repubs want to hold another 11 hour fundraising telethon for her?

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2015-10-23/clinton-campaign-record-fundraising-hour-after-benghazi-hearing
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on November 03, 2015, 03:20:10 PM
You don't think the Repubs want to hold another 11 hour fundraising telethon for her?

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/trackers/2015-10-23/clinton-campaign-record-fundraising-hour-after-benghazi-hearing

but but but

i thought trey gowdy would get sympathy donations after that?
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Dos Equis on November 03, 2015, 04:45:13 PM
remember how rattled and sweaty trey gowdy looked afterwards?  almost inbred. 

the repub nominee COULD have hammered hilary on benghazi - but not anymore.

after 8 investigations, and 11 hours of straight examination, gowdy admitted they got nothing,

Where did he admit this? 
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Straw Man on November 03, 2015, 05:53:39 PM
Where did he admit this?  
.

Jesus don't tell me Fox or Newsmax or whatever other shit you watch didn't cover this.
Gowdy was quoted after the hearing that they learned nothing new.  
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 03, 2015, 06:04:04 PM
remember how rattled and sweaty trey gowdy looked afterwards?  almost inbred. 

the repub nominee COULD have hammered hilary on benghazi - but not anymore.

after 8 investigations, and 11 hours of straight examination, gowdy admitted they got nothing,

Almost? 

He just came from the woodshed with tears in his eyes.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on November 03, 2015, 07:50:38 PM
.

Jesus don't tell me Fox or Newsmax or whatever other shit you watch didn't cover this.
Howdy was quoted after the hearing that they learned nothing new. 

LOL he looks pretty ignorant here.  it was Gowdy in the hallway right afterwards.  His admission was one of the biggest blunders of the night.

oh brother, do you even watch the news, Dos equis? 
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on November 03, 2015, 07:52:44 PM
Where did he admit this? 

Trey Gowdy Says His 11-Hour Benghazi Hearing Didn't Reveal Anything New

WASHINGTON -- Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) couldn't say Thursday night if his all-day Benghazi hearing with Hillary Clinton revealed any new information.

Gowdy, chairman of the House Select Committee on Benghazi, was asked by reporters what new details came from his panel's 11 hours of grilling the former secretary of state over her response to the 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi.

"Uh," Gowdy said, pausing for several seconds.

"I think some of Jimmy Jordan's questioning -- well, when you say new today, we knew some of that already. We knew about the emails," he said. "In terms of her testimony? I don't know that she testified that much differently today than she has the previous time she testified."

The fact that Gowdy couldn't articulate the point of the hearing will only fuel Democrats' criticisms that he's using the panel to hurt Clinton's 2016 White House bid. A couple of Republicans have said as much, too, though Gowdy insists he's leading a legitimate investigation.

So far, Gowdy's probe has cost more than $4.5 million and hasn't turned up much. He vowed Thursday night to keep digging, though.

"We keep going on until we're able to interview all the witnesses," Gowdy told reporters.  HP

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Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 04, 2015, 05:44:37 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHA.    Denial is the fuel of spin.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Necrosis on November 04, 2015, 05:52:26 AM
Hillary did not outwardly state in public that she lied.  She blamed it on the "fog of war."  Now we know she and the administration were being deliberately deceitful. 

Then there were the hundreds of requests for extra security that fell on deaf ears.

Oftentimes, multiple investigations are required when people are covering up the truth. 

Again, she may have been with holding information, never had all the information, was given incorrect information etc etc.. it was corrected a few days later, it had no bearing on anything at all, NOTHING. You are being excessively strict and unreasonable, I can distinctly remember reading that they knew the culprit and strategically tried to create a false sense of comfort, they had not apprehended or made advances on those responsible. Outwardly stating the people and other pertinent information would cause them to flee or otherwise, it makes logical sense. It required absolutely 0 panels to figure this out as it was in the public eye.

The requests for security were denied by CONGRESS, they cut funding over and over and denied all white house requests for funding. You are repeating a lie, after 8 fucking investigations you would think you could be honest. However, you are the very people driving this circus so carry on looking for things to be outraged about. The real tragedy here are the people inexplicably and forever tied to your kind via democracy, 4.5 million dollars have been wasted (people are actually starving) to discover it wasn't the video (still feel like more information is needed surrounding this  "video") and that you rage in budget cuts is misplaced. Anyone with a brain can see this is a farce, hell they even admitted it, lololol, yet retards keep this thing going wasting more taxpayer money.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 04, 2015, 05:55:29 AM
Again, she may have been with holding information, never had all the information, was given incorrect information etc etc.. it was corrected a few days later, it had no bearing on anything at all, NOTHING. You are being excessively strict and unreasonable, I can distinctly remember reading that they knew the culprit and strategically tried to create a false sense of comfort, they had not apprehended or made advances on those responsible. Outwardly stating the people and other pertinent information would cause them to flee or otherwise, it makes logical sense. It required absolutely 0 panels to figure this out as it was in the public eye.

The requests for security were denied by CONGRESS, they cut funding over and over and denied all white house requests for funding. You are repeating a lie, after 8 fucking investigations you would think you could be honest. However, you are the very people driving this circus so carry on looking for things to be outraged about. The real tragedy here are the people inexplicably and forever tied to your kind via democracy, 4.5 million dollars have been wasted (people are actually starving) to discover it wasn't the video (still feel like more information is needed surrounding this  "video") and that you rage in budget cuts is misplaced. Anyone with a brain can see this is a farce, hell they even admitted it, lololol, yet retards keep this thing going wasting more taxpayer money.


But integrity matters.

Well..... it doesn't matter quite as much as multiple attempts of smearing Clinton at any cost.  But it matters. 
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Necrosis on November 04, 2015, 05:55:53 AM
We have no evidence of anything but we are going to keep going!!! This is the way all great detectives work, they don't follow the clues, they just keep going until they can find something to fit the predetermined narrative they hold.

It's like suing someone for the same offence and being denied 8 times only to say " we just haven't gone deep enough".
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Necrosis on November 04, 2015, 05:58:49 AM

But integrity matters.

Well..... it doesn't matter quite as much as multiple attempts of smearing Clinton at any cost.  But it matters. 

There is absolutely no logic involved.

Where there is smoke there is fire, has turned into where there is no smoke we will start a fire.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Dos Equis on November 04, 2015, 09:33:00 AM
Again, she may have been with holding information, never had all the information, was given incorrect information etc etc.. it was corrected a few days later, it had no bearing on anything at all, NOTHING. You are being excessively strict and unreasonable, I can distinctly remember reading that they knew the culprit and strategically tried to create a false sense of comfort, they had not apprehended or made advances on those responsible. Outwardly stating the people and other pertinent information would cause them to flee or otherwise, it makes logical sense. It required absolutely 0 panels to figure this out as it was in the public eye.

The requests for security were denied by CONGRESS, they cut funding over and over and denied all white house requests for funding. You are repeating a lie, after 8 fucking investigations you would think you could be honest. However, you are the very people driving this circus so carry on looking for things to be outraged about. The real tragedy here are the people inexplicably and forever tied to your kind via democracy, 4.5 million dollars have been wasted (people are actually starving) to discover it wasn't the video (still feel like more information is needed surrounding this  "video") and that you rage in budget cuts is misplaced. Anyone with a brain can see this is a farce, hell they even admitted it, lololol, yet retards keep this thing going wasting more taxpayer money.

It's pretty obvious you haven't been following this too closely.  They did not correct anything a few days later.  To begin with, we learned at the hearing that Hillary knew it was a terrorist attack that had nothing to with an internet video.  That means Obama and Susan Rice knew.  But all three went on national TV for days telling the American people it was a spontaneous demonstration caused by a youtube video.  Those are the facts. 

The only strategy was to try and protect themselves politically with an election coming up.  Pure and simple. 

The hundreds of security requests were not denied by Congress.  lol   Dude you are just making stuff up. 
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Dos Equis on November 04, 2015, 09:55:10 AM
Trey Gowdy Says His 11-Hour Benghazi Hearing Didn't Reveal Anything New

WASHINGTON -- Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) couldn't say Thursday night if his all-day Benghazi hearing with Hillary Clinton revealed any new information.

Gowdy, chairman of the House Select Committee on Benghazi, was asked by reporters what new details came from his panel's 11 hours of grilling the former secretary of state over her response to the 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi.

"Uh," Gowdy said, pausing for several seconds.

"I think some of Jimmy Jordan's questioning -- well, when you say new today, we knew some of that already. We knew about the emails," he said. "In terms of her testimony? I don't know that she testified that much differently today than she has the previous time she testified."

The fact that Gowdy couldn't articulate the point of the hearing will only fuel Democrats' criticisms that he's using the panel to hurt Clinton's 2016 White House bid. A couple of Republicans have said as much, too, though Gowdy insists he's leading a legitimate investigation.

So far, Gowdy's probe has cost more than $4.5 million and hasn't turned up much. He vowed Thursday night to keep digging, though.

"We keep going on until we're able to interview all the witnesses," Gowdy told reporters.  HP

(https://media.giphy.com/media/AaosjRHKjEcXm/giphy.gif)

remember how rattled and sweaty trey gowdy looked afterwards?  almost inbred. 

the repub nominee COULD have hammered hilary on benghazi - but not anymore.

after 8 investigations, and 11 hours of straight examination, gowdy admitted they got nothing,

"I think some of Jimmy Jordan's questioning -- well, when you say new today, we knew some of that already. We knew about the emails," he said. "In terms of her testimony? I don't know that she testified that much differently today than she has the previous time she testified."

Embellishing again.  But at least you took it from Huffington Post and didn't make it up yourself this time. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trey-gowdy-hillary-clinton-benghazi_56299236e4b0aac0b8fc6a7d
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: Straw Man on November 04, 2015, 10:03:56 AM
"I think some of Jimmy Jordan's questioning -- well, when you say new today, we knew some of that already. We knew about the emails," he said. "In terms of her testimony? I don't know that she testified that much differently today than she has the previous time she testified."

Embellishing again.  But at least you took it from Huffington Post and didn't make it up yourself this time. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trey-gowdy-hillary-clinton-benghazi_56299236e4b0aac0b8fc6a7d

so you're now acknowledging what everyone has been telling you

that's a new one for you

you usual MO at this point is to stick your head even further in the sand

Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on November 04, 2015, 10:08:40 AM
so you're now acknowledging what everyone has been telling you

that's a new one for you

you usual MO at this point is to stick your head even further in the sand

Dos Equis just realized FOX didn't report this pretty important Gowdy admission and feels a little stupid.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 04, 2015, 11:41:03 AM
Dos Equis just realized FOX didn't report this pretty important Gowdy admission and feels a little stupid.

Category 5 spin with torrid swells of deflection coming right up.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: 240 is Back on November 04, 2015, 11:54:00 AM
Category 5 spin with torrid swells of deflection coming right up.

Yep.   He must not have seen it on FOX after the coverage, so he refused to believe it.

THIS is the weird part.  If someone posts something you haven't heard of, don't just deny it.  Look it up.  It takes 2 seconds to google "gowdy admits" and realize he stepped in shit quickly by admitting this.   This happens a lot here - the same few getbiggers (clinton voting "repubs" that hate libs badly) will just auto-deny anything that makes carson or trump look bad.
Title: Re: Benghazi Mother: Hillary 'Absolutely' Lied
Post by: LurkerNoMore on November 04, 2015, 11:59:23 AM
2 seconds is too long.  It takes 0.00004 seconds to go into Messenger Attack Denial mode.