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Title: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 24, 2015, 08:51:32 PM
No idea why this is prevalent, but it is.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: robcguns on October 24, 2015, 08:53:04 PM
No idea why this is prevalent, but it is.
Mid say mainly mid life crisis,it is fun riding a bike so they prob feel young again.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Mr.1derful on October 24, 2015, 09:10:41 PM
People think Harleys are fast, but they're not.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: gym**rat on October 24, 2015, 09:17:32 PM
People think Harleys are fast, but they're not.

Who in the hell said they are fast? I know a ton of Harley owners and none of them bought them because they are fast.
For OP, the majority of Harley owners have always been middle aged men.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Set It Up on October 24, 2015, 09:34:37 PM
87% some kind of life crisis and wanna be's,.........13% genuine bikers

from the office of Rehaluk and Potato Statistics
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: WalterWhite on October 24, 2015, 09:44:11 PM
I was in my 20's when I bought my first one.

Fat Boy with factory custom paint.  And no they are not fast.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: sync pulse on October 24, 2015, 09:50:16 PM
1972 AMF era Electraglide.....
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: gym**rat on October 24, 2015, 09:51:12 PM
87% some kind of life crisis and wanna be's,.........13% genuine bikers

from the office of Rehaluk and Potato Statistics

Close the office your wrong. If anyone over 35 or 40 buys something nice or sporty people scream mid-life crisis. Many do not buy those types of luxuries until that age because that is when the are financially capable of doing so.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: gym**rat on October 24, 2015, 09:51:58 PM
I was 27 when I bought my first one.

Fat Boy with factory custom paint.  And no they are not fast.

Beautiful bike Walter.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: WalterWhite on October 24, 2015, 10:06:13 PM
Beautiful bike Walter.

Thanks have always loved them. This Heritage Softail Classic also had factory custom paint.

I agree about the whole mid life crisis thing. I bought them as soon as I had the disposable cash to buy them.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Set It Up on October 24, 2015, 10:12:19 PM
Close the office your wrong. If anyone over 35 or 40 buys something nice or sporty people scream mid-life crisis. Many do not buy those types of luxuries until that age because that is when the are financially capable of doing so.

I openly laugh at 98.7% of people over 40 who buy one. A guy I know who has had a Harley since he was old enough too drive one  calls them "Catalogue Bikers"
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: sync pulse on October 24, 2015, 10:54:35 PM
Thanks have always loved them. This Heritage Softail Classic also had factory custom paint.

I agree about the whole mid life crisis thing. I bought them as soon as I had the disposable cash to buy them.

I bought a faulty heap cheap...a an AMF era model...and fiddled with it.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: WalterWhite on October 24, 2015, 11:29:45 PM
I bought a faulty heap cheap...a an AMF era model...and fiddled with it.

AMF made some cool bikes. The whole point is to have fun. My dad always talked about the Indian he once owned in the Navy and that sparked my interest in bikes.  He also had a couple dresser Hondas so I tried them out like a bad kid is supposed to when dad is away. :)
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Tapeworm on October 24, 2015, 11:52:43 PM
No idea why this is prevalent, but it is.

A bike because the only way to get time away from his annoying family in a car is to tell them point blank that they are staying behind and he is going alone because another minute with them will result in a Shining-like situation.  The whole conversation/argument about wanting 'alone time' doesn't happen with a bike. 

A Harley because it's American.  I think.  Maybe it isn't anymore, idk.  But the important thing is that others think you're buying American.  This is why companies make a point of telling you that their product is made with pride in the USA which means that it was made entirely in China and some guy in Idaho snapped the two halves together.  If you don't buy American that guy is going to have to make his $50/day somewhere else.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: sync pulse on October 25, 2015, 12:10:25 AM
The Harley Davidson motorcycles have an appearance that "Has Shoulders", an angularity if you will.  When I see a Harley Davidson, I think of a muscular man with good arms, shoulders and pecs.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: pellius on October 25, 2015, 12:24:55 AM
No idea why this is prevalent, but it is.

Could be because that's the peak earning years for a man and they can finally afford one. A Harley is a luxury item as well as getting a sports car and most can't justify the expense when they are still building their lives.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: phreak on October 25, 2015, 02:19:52 AM
The perfect bike for men that are overlooked by all of society. They can't get heads to turn with either their personality or their physique, so they go back to caveman basics: just make a lot of unnecessary noise, so people will have to hear (=/= listen to) them. Pathetic losers.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: pellius on October 25, 2015, 02:31:32 AM
The perfect bike for men that are overlooked by all of society. They can't get heads to turn with either their personality or their physique, so they go back to caveman basics: just make a lot of unnecessary noise, so people will have to hear (=/= listen to) them. Pathetic losers.

Ever consider that maybe they actually like Harleys? Only neglected and ignored losers buy Harleys, an American icon?
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: phreak on October 25, 2015, 03:24:20 AM
Ever consider that maybe they actually like Harleys? Only neglected and ignored losers buy Harleys, an American icon?
A lot of Harleys are dirt cheap. If they really loved them, they would have bought one decades earlier. No bullshit excuses about how 'model such and such with all options is fucking expensive'. If you really love something, you'll buy what you can afford and upgrade when possible. You don't suddenly fall in love with something that has always been available once you start losing your hair, you have no job prospects and your wife is cheating on you.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on October 25, 2015, 04:34:27 AM
Thanks have always loved them. This Heritage Softail Classic also had factory custom paint.

I agree about the whole mid life crisis thing. I bought them as soon as I had the disposable cash to buy them.
what a good looking dog you had there
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: robcguns on October 25, 2015, 04:37:26 AM
Close the office your wrong. If anyone over 35 or 40 buys something nice or sporty people scream mid-life crisis. Many do not buy those types of luxuries until that age because that is when the are financially capable of doing so.

Very true
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: pellius on October 25, 2015, 04:48:37 AM
A lot of Harleys are dirt cheap. If they really loved them, they would have bought one decades earlier. No bullshit excuses about how 'model such and such with all options is fucking expensive'. If you really love something, you'll buy what you can afford and upgrade when possible. You don't suddenly fall in love with something that has always been available once you start losing your hair, you have no job prospects and your wife is cheating on you.

I disagree. What may be dirt cheap to you may not be for a guy with a mortgage and kids. My neighbor who is a cop and his wife a teacher with three kids was moaning about how he is going to have to come up with the money to buy a new washer.
What's a washer cost? $4-500 dollars. They make six figures between the two of them.

I don't buy the notion that every middle age guy that rides a Harley is going through a mid life crisis. it completely discounts the very real possibility that maybe they have always had Harleys since their twenties and have simply gotten older like we all do.

But it is the way of GetBig to always assume the worse in a person to make themselves feel better.  I see a middle age man riding a Harley or a expensive sports car I don't think anything of it. Some people just enjoy those things. I'm sure if many here saw Harley Briete, a middle aged man with his long graying hair and pony tail, will shake their heads and consider him another poseur trying to relive his youth.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Royalty on October 25, 2015, 04:55:06 AM
No idea why this is prevalent, but it is.

Yes!!!!

And when they are in their 50's or 60's... they will add a Corvette  ;)
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Irongrip400 on October 25, 2015, 05:02:48 AM
Close the office your wrong. If anyone over 35 or 40 buys something nice or sporty people scream mid-life crisis. Many do not buy those types of luxuries until that age because that is when the are financially capable of doing so.

Spot on.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Royalty on October 25, 2015, 05:04:54 AM
There is a restaurant/grill that I drive past every day.... Nearly 100% there are a group of middle aged men staring at each other's motorcycles.

If it happened once or twice I wouldn't have even noticed it. But after seeing it every singe day.... I noticed a pattern.

I bet that they go inside and buy each other drinks; and re-tell every Harley memory that they have.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: 10pints on October 25, 2015, 05:20:10 AM
I disagree. What may be dirt cheap to you may not be for a guy with a mortgage and kids. My neighbor who is a cop and his wife a teacher with three kids was moaning about how he is going to have to come up with the money to buy a new washer.
What's a washer cost? $4-500 dollars. They make six figures between the two of them.

I don't buy the notion that every middle age guy that rides a Harley is going through a mid life crisis. it completely discounts the very real possibility that maybe they have always had Harleys since their twenties and have simply gotten older like we all do.

But it is the way of GetBig to always assume the worse in a person to make themselves feel better.  I see a middle age man riding a Harley or a expensive sports car I don't think anything of it. Some people just enjoy those things. I'm sure if many here saw Harley Briete, a middle aged man with his long graying hair and pony tail, will shake their heads and consider him another poseur trying to relive his youth.

You should start a HB fan club.

P.s. you are gay for HB
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: pellius on October 25, 2015, 05:28:42 AM
You should start a HB fan club.

P.s. you are gay for HB

There's already one on the Harley Breite Appreciation thread. Something that will never happen to you since nobody cares and you're a nothing.

Compliment a guy and you're gay. How original.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: sync pulse on October 25, 2015, 05:28:46 AM
People think Harleys are fast, but they're not.

Kawasaki kz1000 is fast...
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: BayGBM on October 25, 2015, 05:29:19 AM
Close the office your wrong. If anyone over 35 or 40 buys something nice or sporty people scream mid-life crisis. Many do not buy those types of luxuries until that age because that is when the are financially capable of doing so.

x3  ::)
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: 10pints on October 25, 2015, 05:30:42 AM
There's already one on the Harley Breite Appreciation thread. Something that will never happen to you since nobody cares and you're a nothing.

Compliment a guy and you're gay. How original.

Admittedly, not original, but why mess with the getbig formula?
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Grape Ape on October 25, 2015, 06:11:26 AM
But it is the way of GetBig to always assume the worse in a person to make themselves feel better.  I see a middle age man riding a Harley or a expensive sports car I don't think anything of it. Some people just enjoy those things..

x4.

Most people this age just do things because they like them, and have the means.  There's no grand scheme or psycho babble behind everything.

It's just another case of the posters here who either have no real life experience in matters, or know of 1 or 2 examples in their personal life and project that to an entire population.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Voice of Doom on October 25, 2015, 06:12:51 AM
No idea why this is prevalent, but it is.

I fail to understand why a "mid life crisis" is always portrayed as a bad thing.  The media paints it as the "laughable buffon" who will soon come to his senses....hardee har har.

A man should always be evaluating his life.  He only gets one.  If he decides that he's gone one direction long enough then he has a moral imperative to change.

It's almost like a man's life has been pre-set for him and if he deviates from societies' plan he is to be mocked and ridiculed.  I see a correlation in this with the rise of feminism.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Trapper_Slapper on October 25, 2015, 06:14:04 AM
Could be because that's the peak earning years for a man and they can finally afford one. A Harley is a luxury item as well as getting a sports car and most can't justify the expense when they are still building their lives.

Bingo. Many of my friends/associates would love to own a spec'd out Fatboy right now, but to purchase one now would be financially irresponsible.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: mazrim on October 25, 2015, 06:25:02 AM
I don't begrudge them buying a Harley (though I hate them-way too loud/annoying). Its when they suddenly start getting leather jackets/paraphenalia out of the blue that it is odd.

Those and indigo headlights are too of my least favorite things on the road.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Sokolsky on October 25, 2015, 06:28:31 AM
I don't begrudge them buying a Harley (though I hate them-way too loud/annoying). Its when they suddenly start getting leather jackets/paraphenalia out of the blue that it is odd.

Those and indigo headlights are too of my least favorite things on the road.

Buying into the 'lifestyle'.

Same behavior can be observed with roadcyclists. 10K carbon-bike that needs to be updated/replaced every year by another of the 'latest' model that saves 0,03gr. Of course with matching Rabobank or Videostar shirts and nutthuggers.

Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: lilhawk1 on October 25, 2015, 07:32:40 AM
The true riders I can understand, but they make up probably 1% of the guys that ride Harley's.  The rest are a bunch of guys that do it for attention because they can't get it with their looks, personality, etc.  these are the fucks that wear the whole outfit... Boots, vest, you name it, or better yet the cutoff shirt to show their fat, flabby arms.  As soon as they get on their loud, annoying hunk of metal they get the instant bad ass look.  They're instantly somebody.  Sitting at every stop light revving the piece of shit, what is the hunk of shit going to stall?  Then they get on it, and all you hear is a bunch of loud, shitty noise, and they've gone all of 50 feet in 10 seconds.  If the piece of shit isn't fast, then why do you drive it like it is? Standing outside of bars with a bud light in one hand staring at their pride and joy sitting there.  Great friggin time.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 25, 2015, 08:23:43 AM
They are usually over 50 guys who ride Harley's. What 25 year old can afford a $25 k bike in addition to their car unless they are making monthly payments?  By the way if you are over 50 you are not middle age unless you live to be 100. You are old.

Most of these old guys get off on thinking they are outlaw bikers from the Hells Angels, Breed or Pagan. They wear imitation outlaw colors on their vests. Most trailer their bikes to events and then ride around town like they are real bikers.

I use to ride having owned 4 bikes. I have nothing against a guy riding a Harley hanging with their friends going on runs to an event or enjoying a ride. Harley's are an American tradition in riding a newly built antique designed motorcycle with dated engineering. I would rather ride a Ducati or a Japanese bike but that's just me.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: kh300 on October 25, 2015, 08:39:32 AM
Harley's are cool bikes, but that's were it ends. They are very overpriced. A 1980 Harley and a 2016 are very similar. They are using inferior parts compared to Japanese bikes that cost half and are using top of the line parts.

You buy a Harley to bar hop and to polish in the garage, not for serious riding. Of all the conventions I've been to, all the long rides, the iron butts, the touring groups. Never would someone attempt to do much on a Harley. They are too uncomfortable, vibrate like a jack hammer and burn too much oil.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: chaos on October 25, 2015, 08:42:19 AM
Just as bad as a young guy buying a sports car, like a Lotus or something to show off how sporty he is. ::)
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Dokey111 on October 25, 2015, 08:44:40 AM
Harleys are very expensive for what you get, especially considering you only get half a bike,, you are still going to pour big $ into it.

Have owned 5, my first bike ever was a 1983 XL, just out of college I got it.  

Still own an 80 FLH.  My last Harley for sure.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: TheGrinch on October 25, 2015, 08:48:21 AM
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/aodPzXtxp4w/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: BIG AL MCKECHNIE on October 25, 2015, 08:49:30 AM
Plenty middle aged bikers over in UK and most do not ride Harleys.
I believe it is the motorcycle of choice for UK Gay Christian biker association. Guess they get a certain gay macho vibe from it.  Up here in Scotland we have a Gay Christian biker group called the "Queerosexuals" and they all ride Harley.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: HTexan on October 25, 2015, 08:54:26 AM
No idea why this is prevalent, but it is.
Doctors and lawyers trying to be cool on a shitty bike. Well, are HDs still shitty?  ???
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: stuntmovie on October 25, 2015, 08:59:30 AM
Interesting topic.

I just paid a visit to what is claimed to be the largest HD shop in existence here in LV and I agree that most bikers are middle aged for financial reasons ... as per GymRat's earlier comment.

The new ones I looked at were priced from $16,000 to $27,000.

Walter, what was the price of your first bike and what year did you purchase it?

I don't know a lot of bikers but the ones I do know have all been in various types of accidents (no deaths though!).

Here is the new Harley Davidson shop which is located on the south end of the LV Strip adjacent to the airport runway.

If you are interested n bikes... it's worth a visit.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: AlphaGyno on October 25, 2015, 09:21:30 AM
Harleysexuals
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Dr Dutch on October 25, 2015, 09:24:08 AM
I wonder what I will buy when I am in my 50s..............?



ok, shoot.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: The Scott on October 25, 2015, 09:26:32 AM
Friends own and ride Harleys.  They look happy and ride a lot of miles, including to Sturgis and back a few years in a row now, camping out both along the way and while there.    Like I said, they look happy to me.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: oldtimer1 on October 25, 2015, 09:44:34 AM
I disagree. What may be dirt cheap to you may not be for a guy with a mortgage and kids. My neighbor who is a cop and his wife a teacher with three kids was moaning about how he is going to have to come up with the money to buy a new washer.
What's a washer cost? $4-500 dollars. They make six figures between the two of them.

I don't buy the notion that every middle age guy that rides a Harley is going through a mid life crisis. it completely discounts the very real possibility that maybe they have always had Harleys since their twenties and have simply gotten older like we all do.

But it is the way of GetBig to always assume the worse in a person to make themselves feel better.  I see a middle age man riding a Harley or a expensive sports car I don't think anything of it. Some people just enjoy those things. I'm sure if many here saw Harley Briete, a middle aged man with his long graying hair and pony tail, will shake their heads and consider him another poseur trying to relive his youth.

Don't know what you are saying about buying a washer when the people you know are making 6 figures? People have mortgages, car payments and in some cases private school tuition to pay.  $400 is a lot of money if it's unexpected and this is coming from a guy that made over 100K for over the last 10 years.

People live up to their means. In the neighborhood I live in I think I make the least but we all make roughly the same. I enjoy the beautiful house and the investment that it is. People tend to make around the same as their neighbors in the same neighbor hood. If you made significantly more or less you would live in a different one. It's all relative. A $400 washing machine might be nothing to a guy making 40k living in an apartment making small car payments. It might be a lot a money to a guy making 100k that is making big mortgage and tax payments on a house.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: BayGBM on October 25, 2015, 09:45:37 AM
Perhaps I am one of those middle aged buyers the OP is talking about.  The other day I was driving and saw this bike on the side of the rode.  About half a mile after passing it, I decided to turn around and have a closer look; when I was in my late teens I sort of wanted a cycle, but back then I had other priorities; I never even learned to ride.  Do I need a bike now?  No.  Would I ride it much?  No; maybe a couple times a month when the weather is good.  It would be a toy I keep in the garage.  In fact, I'd probably end up loaning it to one of my muscle buddies (BB related).  The sign on the bike said it was a 1999 model with 3500 miles.  The seller wanted $6800 or best offer.  It looked as if it had spent most of its time in a garage.  A good deal?  I had no idea.  Maybe I'd offer him $4k, $5k or $6k.  I snapped these pix and showed them to my buddy who knew more about bikes than I do (a couple months ago I recall he mentioned wanting a bike).  If he taught me how to ride it, I'd let him use it when I didn't need it.  I had bike fever for a couple days and even started looking at new HDs online.  Do I care how "fast" this bike can go?  No.  It would be a toy.  Nothing more.  Suffice to say the bike fever passed.

One of my neighbors (I'm guessing he is 57-62) has a HD.  He drives it around our community a couple times a week when the weather is good.  I have no idea if he ever takes it out on the open road; I suspect he is a very casual rider.  If I were to get a bike. I would use it the same way.  

Some people like to spend money on jewels and furs; some people like to go to concerts or sporting events; some people want to travel; some people like to ride a Harleys.  Bay likey. 8)
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: The Scott on October 25, 2015, 09:48:55 AM
Perhaps I am one of those middle aged buyers the OP is talking about.  The other day I was driving and saw this bike on the side of the rode.  About half a mile after passing it, I decided to turn around and have a closer look; when I was in my late teens I sort of wanted a cycle, but back then I had other priorities; I never even learned to ride.  Do I need a bike now?  No.  Would I ride it much?  No; maybe a couple times a month when the weather is good.  It would be a toy I keep in the garage.  In fact, I'd probably end up loaning it to one of my muscle buddies (BB related).  The sign on the bike said it was a 1999 model with 3500 miles.  The seller wanted $6800 or best offer.  It looked as if it had spent most of its time in a garage.  A good deal?  I had no idea.  Maybe I'd offer him $4k, $5k or $6k.  I snapped these pix and showed them to my buddy who knew more about bikes than I do (a couple months ago I recall he mentioned wanting a bike).  If he taught me how to ride it, I'd let him use it when I didn't need it.  I had bike fever for a couple days and even started looking at new HDs online.  Do I care how "fast" this bike can go?  No.  It would be a toy.  Nothing more.  Suffice to say the bike fever passed.

One of my neighbors (I'm guessing he is 57-62) has a HD.  He drives it around our community a couple times a week when the weather is good.  I have no idea if he ever takes it out on the open road; I suspect he is a very casual rider.  If I were to get a bike. I would use it the same way.  

Some people like to spend money on jewels and furs; some people like to go to concerts or sporting events; some people want to travel; some people like to ride a Harleys. 8)

Sweet ride, Bay.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: WalterWhite on October 25, 2015, 10:30:59 AM
Interesting topic.

I just paid a visit to what is claimed to be the largest HD shop in existence here in LV and I agree that most bikers are middle aged for financial reasons ... as per GymRat's earlier comment.

The new ones I looked at were priced from $16,000 to $27,000.

Walter, what was the price of your first bike and what year did you purchase it?

I don't know a lot of bikers but the ones I do know have all been in various types of accidents (no deaths though!).

Here is the new Harley Davidson shop which is located on the south end of the LV Strip adjacent to the airport runway.

If you are interested n bikes... it's worth a visit.

There is a beautiful shop like that in NH! I think it was 91 with 2500 miles on it and I bought it from a guy who's business was in trouble. He needed cash so I obliged with 10k.

I had a Honda Nighthawk 750 before the Harley.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: BayGBM on October 25, 2015, 10:45:34 AM
Interesting topic.

I just paid a visit to what is claimed to be the largest HD shop in existence here in LV and I agree that most bikers are middle aged for financial reasons ... as per GymRat's earlier comment.

The new ones I looked at were priced from $16,000 to $27,000.

Walter, what was the price of your first bike and what year did you purchase it?

I don't know a lot of bikers but the ones I do know have all been in various types of accidents (no deaths though!).

Here is the new Harley Davidson shop which is located on the south end of the LV Strip adjacent to the airport runway.

If you are interested n bikes... it's worth a visit.

Yikes!  My bike is looking like a good deal now!  :P
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Dr Dutch on October 25, 2015, 11:11:21 AM
(http://zundappklazienaveen.nl/images/collectie_van_de_club/Joop_Heller/448_sprinter/4.jpg)


Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: _bruce_ on October 25, 2015, 11:21:28 AM
(http://zundappklazienaveen.nl/images/collectie_van_de_club/Joop_Heller/448_sprinter/4.jpg)




Geil  8)
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: The True Adonis on October 25, 2015, 12:37:56 PM
This is a cool motorcycle.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262105473908?forcerRptr=true&item=262105473908&frommaketrack=true&viewitem=&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NgoAAOSw9mFWIo6D/s-l1600.jpg)

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I like these also:

(http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2009models/2009-Indian-ChiefVintagea.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QZ7QfThMruE/TlKpZns642I/AAAAAAAAAAM/vL3BdUYygF4/s1600/indian+motorcycle+1949.jpg)

(http://www.indian-bobbers.com/indian_1949/images-in0006/cf8e_3-468x348.jpg)

(http://www.indianmotorcycles.net/attachments/2014-03-25-19-13-12-jpg.626/)

(http://media.50below.com/corporate/webdesign/merchslides/IndianMotorcycles/b29c5ff7-c207-49f7-b349-f628587311c7.jpg)
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: The Scott on October 25, 2015, 12:41:39 PM
This is a cool motorcycle.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262105473908?forcerRptr=true&item=262105473908&frommaketrack=true&viewitem=&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NgoAAOSw9mFWIo6D/s-l1600.jpg)

(http://assets.vg247.com/current//2015/10/s-l1600-600x400.jpg)

I like these also:

(http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2009models/2009-Indian-ChiefVintagea.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QZ7QfThMruE/TlKpZns642I/AAAAAAAAAAM/vL3BdUYygF4/s1600/indian+motorcycle+1949.jpg)

(http://www.indian-bobbers.com/indian_1949/images-in0006/cf8e_3-468x348.jpg)

(http://www.indianmotorcycles.net/attachments/2014-03-25-19-13-12-jpg.626/)

(http://media.50below.com/corporate/webdesign/merchslides/IndianMotorcycles/b29c5ff7-c207-49f7-b349-f628587311c7.jpg)

They are and one reason is because as a friend once taught me, they're not pretending to be anything but what they are.  Same as Harleys.  Same as a CB1100.  Same as...Well you get the idea, my friend.

Be well.  ;D
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Dokey111 on October 25, 2015, 12:42:27 PM
No this is a cool motorcycle
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Dr Dutch on October 25, 2015, 12:48:17 PM
70s Hippie Puch !!!!

(http://www.qualityscales.nl/groot/Puch%20MV50%20Hoog%20Stuur%20WSI021223_thumb.jpg)

Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on October 25, 2015, 01:27:12 PM
Harley is for attention whores.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: HTexan on October 25, 2015, 02:13:28 PM
Harley is for attention whores.
x2 lawyers, doctors, and old men trying to be cool.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: BayGBM on October 25, 2015, 03:15:21 PM
presumably you have no ambition to be any of the above

Ouch!  Good one. ;D
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Sokolsky on October 25, 2015, 04:15:30 PM
Looks interesting

(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03062/Ariel_Ace_review_3062123b.jpg)
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Walter Sobchak on October 25, 2015, 04:35:17 PM
No idea why this is prevalent, but it is.

Obviously a guy on a Harley cut off True Anus in his Prius, laughed at Anus's Obama tattoo, and banged TA's girl in the shitter.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 25, 2015, 05:50:59 PM
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: AD2100 on October 25, 2015, 06:20:18 PM
No idea why this is prevalent, but it is.
(http://melgibstein.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/zzznathanael1.jpg?w=640)
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: HTexan on October 25, 2015, 06:33:43 PM
presumably you have no ambition to be any of the above
Nope.
Wouldn't defend criminals and rapist and I prefer not to be covered in other people's blood.  ;)
And other questions BodyBuildersCock lover?
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on October 25, 2015, 07:15:16 PM
(http://melgibstein.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/zzznathanael1.jpg?w=640)

Good ol' Brother Nathanael.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on October 25, 2015, 07:16:07 PM
Is it me, or is Adonis pre-occupied with what other dudes do, usually with a negative connotation behind it?
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: The Scott on October 25, 2015, 07:27:28 PM
Is it me, or is Adonis pre-occupied with what other dudes do, usually with a negative connotation behind it?

No, not any more than anyone else here.  On the surface it does appear that many of the threads here are started on a whim.

So too, are many of the replies.  Many.  Not all.   ;D  People ask questions all the time and all too often the answers they receive are  just replies, not answers.  I am as guilty as any that come here when it comes to giving "answers" that are anything but. 

I like Harleys just fine and sportbikes not so much but both bikes  have good riders and bad.  More often than not (here in SoCal), both groups are retards on the roads with little to no manners or consideration of others sharing the roads.  Dressing like an 81 is no more pathetic than trying to look like Rossi.  Another post here mentioned bicyclists and their  garb.

Nailed it.

Be well.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: The Ugly on October 25, 2015, 07:57:59 PM
No, not any more than anyone else here.  On the surface it does appear that many of the threads here are started on a whim.

So too, are many of the replies.  Many.  Not all.   ;D  People ask questions all the time and all too often the answers they receive are  just replies, not answers.  I am as guilty as any that come here when it comes to giving "answers" that are anything but. 

I like Harleys just fine and sportbikes not so much but both bikes  have good riders and bad.  More often than not (here in SoCal), both groups are retards on the roads with little to no manners or consideration of others sharing the roads.  Dressing like an 81 is no more pathetic than trying to look like Rossi.  Another post here mentioned bicyclists and their  garb.

Nailed it.

Be well.

Which part?

Do you ride, Scott? Mine's still in pieces (only been 8-9 years), but chaos says I can bitch up behind him. Maybe we should put 'er in the wind?
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: pellius on October 25, 2015, 10:22:59 PM
Harley's are cool bikes, but that's were it ends. They are very overpriced. A 1980 Harley and a 2016 are very similar. They are using inferior parts compared to Japanese bikes that cost half and are using top of the line parts.

You buy a Harley to bar hop and to polish in the garage, not for serious riding. Of all the conventions I've been to, all the long rides, the iron butts, the touring groups. Never would someone attempt to do much on a Harley. They are too uncomfortable, vibrate like a jack hammer and burn too much oil.

What makes you think they use inferior parts whereas the Japanese use high quality?
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: pellius on October 25, 2015, 10:27:40 PM
Just as bad as a young guy buying a sports car, like a Lotus or something to show off how sporty he is. ::)

OK, so if a young guy buys a sports car he's trying to look "sporty" and if an old guy buys a sports car he's going through a mid life crisis.

It never happens that someone buys something because they just want to and appreciate high performance autos.  ::)
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: WalterWhite on October 25, 2015, 10:32:02 PM
What makes you think they use inferior parts whereas the Japanese use high quality?

That just shows he knows nothing about Harley's and how they have improved their engines over the years. I have had a large number and never had a problem.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: chaos on October 26, 2015, 06:48:48 AM
OK, so if a young guy buys a sports car he's trying to look "sporty" and if an old guy buys a sports car he's going through a mid life crisis.

It never happens that someone buys something because they just want to and appreciate high performance autos.  ::)
I can see the bathtub steroids and kigs have rotted away your sarcasm meter.
And given you turtle belly and leather covered pig nipples. ::)
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: kh300 on October 26, 2015, 06:57:06 AM
What makes you think they use inferior parts whereas the Japanese use high quality?

Harleys are covered in Chinese parts. Not one single part of a Harley is made in America.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: kh300 on October 26, 2015, 07:00:59 AM
That just shows he knows nothing about Harley's and how they have improved their engines over the years. I have had a large number and never had a problem.

What changes have they made? Yes a lot of guys claim their bike is reliable then you look at the dash and see they only have 1k miles.lol

Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: SilverSpoon on October 26, 2015, 08:19:48 AM
Big fan of Guzzi myself.

Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: chaos on October 26, 2015, 09:36:10 AM
Big fan of Guzzi myself.


You spelled cock wrong.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 26, 2015, 09:57:13 AM
The buy American thing is just propaganda from the company. I'm not going to buy from a company that 1. Sells an overpriced product and 2. Then bends you over a barrel on maintenance. If you have the disposable cash and the need for a status symbol then by all means buy a Harley, but you are overpaying and getting an inferior product than the import competitors.   
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: jon cole on October 26, 2015, 10:08:10 AM
family man - middle aged biker at my work are ppl bored with life.

The weather is not very fine near Paris, so they drive motorcycle 20 time a year but their whole life revolve around motorcycle.

It's a kind of escape.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Tennisballz on October 26, 2015, 10:20:19 AM
I actually agree with OP.  The same overweight middle aged men also guzzle beer and obsess over "their team" every Sunday as well.  It is an interesting phenomenon.  They aren't stupid or bad people though.  They just fit into the accepted norm of society and I guess don't realize it.  If you live the accepted normal life it's actually quite depressing.  Grow up and have fun as a teen, get a job/wife/house/kids, go heavily into debt, eat poorly, overwork, maximum stress, get fat, retire with 75 grand, get sick, die.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 26, 2015, 10:43:55 AM
I actually agree with OP.  The same overweight middle aged men also guzzle beer and obsess over "their team" every Sunday as well.  It is an interesting phenomenon.  They aren't stupid or bad people though.  They just fit into the accepted norm of society and I guess don't realize it.  If you live the accepted normal life it's actually quite depressing.  Grow up and have fun as a teen, get a job/wife/house/kids, go heavily into debt, eat poorly, overwork, maximum stress, get fat, retire with 75 grand, get sick, die.

I need a drink..
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: CalvinH on October 26, 2015, 11:54:45 AM
You spelled cock wrong.


 ;D
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Princess L on October 26, 2015, 12:47:39 PM
Harleys are covered in Chinese parts. Not one single part of a Harley is made in America.

Tell that to the thousands of employees in Milwaukee, KC and York 
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Dokey111 on October 26, 2015, 01:01:20 PM
Tell that to the thousands of employees in Milwaukee, KC and York 

assemblers you mean?
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: jdooly on October 26, 2015, 04:01:40 PM
HD's are assembled in US but littered with China parts.  They are heavy as F, handle like F, and got the industy by the balls because of the name "Harley Davidson."  They are damn popular though.  Im a Harley mechanic BTW.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 26, 2015, 04:10:16 PM
This is a cool motorcycle.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262105473908?forcerRptr=true&item=262105473908&frommaketrack=true&viewitem=&afsrc=1&rmvSB=true

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NgoAAOSw9mFWIo6D/s-l1600.jpg)

(http://assets.vg247.com/current//2015/10/s-l1600-600x400.jpg)

I like these also:

(http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/photos/2009models/2009-Indian-ChiefVintagea.jpg)

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QZ7QfThMruE/TlKpZns642I/AAAAAAAAAAM/vL3BdUYygF4/s1600/indian+motorcycle+1949.jpg)

(http://www.indian-bobbers.com/indian_1949/images-in0006/cf8e_3-468x348.jpg)

(http://www.indianmotorcycles.net/attachments/2014-03-25-19-13-12-jpg.626/)

(http://media.50below.com/corporate/webdesign/merchslides/IndianMotorcycles/b29c5ff7-c207-49f7-b349-f628587311c7.jpg)

These are pretty cool

http://www.classifiedmoto.com/bikes/

This one is badass

(http://classified-moto.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/XV920-2.0-side-right.jpg)

And this one

(http://classified-moto.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/XV920R6-side.jpg)
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 26, 2015, 04:15:52 PM
Walking Dead Daryl's bike

(http://classified-moto.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/141003_CM6879_profile.jpg)


http://www.classifiedmoto.com/bikes/
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 26, 2015, 04:22:00 PM
Trikes are pretty gay but Exile's trike is pretty badass

(http://www.hotbikeweb.com/sites/hotbikeweb.com/files/styles/medium_1x_/public/import/page_element_images/0504hb_06z%2BTrike%2BFull_Right_Side_View.jpg?itok=9G9KvZfk)(http://www.exilecycles.com/UserFiles/Image/bikes/trike/trike3.jpg)


http://www.exilecycles.com/index.php?section=1
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: WalterWhite on October 26, 2015, 05:03:11 PM
HD's are assembled in US but littered with China parts.  They are heavy as F, handle like F, and got the industy by the balls because of the name "Harley Davidson."  They are damn popular though.  Im a Harley mechanic BTW.

Ok then you can explain better than me how reliability has improved over the years.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: YngiweRhoads on October 26, 2015, 07:35:29 PM
I disagree. What may be dirt cheap to you may not be for a guy with a mortgage and kids. My neighbor who is a cop and his wife a teacher with three kids was moaning about how he is going to have to come up with the money to buy a new washer.
What's a washer cost? $4-500 dollars. They make six figures between the two of them.

I don't buy the notion that every middle age guy that rides a Harley is going through a mid life crisis. it completely discounts the very real possibility that maybe they have always had Harleys since their twenties and have simply gotten older like we all do.

But it is the way of GetBig to always assume the worse in a person to make themselves feel better.  I see a middle age man riding a Harley or a expensive sports car I don't think anything of it. Some people just enjoy those things. I'm sure if many here saw Harley Briete, a middle aged man with his long graying hair and pony tail, will shake their heads and consider him another poseur trying to relive his youth.

WTF?

Cops here make 6 figs alone and teachers make close to that as well.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: chaos on October 26, 2015, 08:27:38 PM
HD's are assembled in US but littered with China parts.  They are heavy as F, handle like F, and got the industy by the balls because of the name "Harley Davidson."  They are damn popular though.  Im a Harley mechanic BTW.
Harleys are cruisers, not sport bikes.
PS: Hook a fellow getbigger up with a new hi torque starter!
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: pellius on October 27, 2015, 04:45:30 AM
I can see the bathtub steroids and kigs have rotted away your sarcasm meter.
And given you turtle belly and leather covered pig nipples. ::)

It always cracks me up when a bald, oval head, wide hips, narrow shouldered, overall pear shape that personifies Humpty Dumpty
criticizes anybodies physique here.

Everyone know why, even admitting yourself, why you always keep well covered up in pictures.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Simple Simon on October 27, 2015, 04:48:17 AM
It always cracks me up when a bald, oval head, wide hips, narrow shouldered, overall pear shape that personifies Humpty Dumpty
criticizes anybodies physique here.

Everyone know why, even admitting yourself, why you always keep well covered up in pictures.

Google "chocadoobie"
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: pellius on October 27, 2015, 04:54:47 AM
WTF?

Cops here make 6 figs alone and teachers make close to that as well.

Not true. LAPD, one of the highest paid in the country, starts in the high 50s. After putting in some years and working a lot of over time you can break six figures. And a lot depends where you live. In Arkansas it's around 35 grand. A veteran officer in Hawaii is pulling around 60 grand.

Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: pellius on October 27, 2015, 04:59:29 AM
Google "chocadoobie"

LOL. A splitting image. And he's a mod on the training board.

(http://disharmonicheaven.synthasite.com/resources/Say%20Chocadoobie.jpg)
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 27, 2015, 09:33:11 AM
Not true. LAPD, one of the highest paid in the country, starts in the high 50s. After putting in some years and working a lot of over time you can break six figures. And a lot depends where you live. In Arkansas it's around 35 grand. A veteran officer in Hawaii is pulling around 60 grand.



a 2 year officer here in Austin makes $69,851 plus soft pay that brings it to around 74K not including overtime

a 14 yr Sgt makes $101, 663 base pay
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: Agnostic007 on October 27, 2015, 09:37:30 AM
Not true. LAPD, one of the highest paid in the country, starts in the high 50s. After putting in some years and working a lot of over time you can break six figures. And a lot depends where you live. In Arkansas it's around 35 grand. A veteran officer in Hawaii is pulling around 60 grand.



In LAPD, you make 60K upon completion of the academy and $64K when you complete probation. 
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: chaos on October 27, 2015, 10:26:54 AM
It always cracks me up when a bald, oval head, wide hips, narrow shouldered, overall pear shape that personifies Humpty Dumpty
criticizes anybodies physique here.

Everyone know why, even admitting yourself, why you always keep well covered up in pictures.
You bowed down and willingly allowed yourself to be called an elf, your opinion means less than nothing.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: stuntmovie on October 27, 2015, 10:49:45 AM
I don't know but I've been told .... that an Indian is a far superior bike than a Harley!

Any professional comments regarding the above?

Also ... a while back I saw a movie about the founder of the Indian company portrayed by a major star who appeared to be nothing like a biker, but I have forgotten the name of  that film and even doubt if it was ever released.  Any help?

And .... A good friend of mine was in the process of "chroming"  his bike (I forget the exact term for that chroming process) and when it was about 80% "chromatized" .... it was stolen by someone.

Strange thing is that this occurred on a relatively unpopulated island ... but was never found by the local "stolen bike investigators".

I have suspicions which may be valid.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: The Ugly on October 27, 2015, 12:57:05 PM
You bowed down and willingly allowed yourself to be called an elf, your opinion means less than nothing.

Tough to undo.

Impossible, really.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on October 27, 2015, 01:40:25 PM
How many motorcycle "clubs" started because of the tV show Sons of Anarchy? I've seen a few in my area. They do assorted rides for charity but think they're some kind of motorcycle gang not unlike the movie Wild Hogs. Real motorcycle gangs are not to be fucked with. But these Wild Hog types are an embarrassment.

Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: pellius on October 27, 2015, 11:17:23 PM
a 2 year officer here in Austin makes $69,851 plus soft pay that brings it to around 74K not including overtime

a 14 yr Sgt makes $101, 663 base pay

OK, so your point being? I was talking about a police officer in Hawaii.
Austin obviously pays above average in the US which was 56 grand in 2013. You implied that cops routinely make six figures. That is simply not true.

The BLS reports the median annual salary for patrol officers was $56,130 in 2013. The best-paid 10 percent in the field made $90,700, while the bottom 10 percent made $32,670. State governments pay police officers the highest in the country, offering an average salary of $63,100 in 2013.

Patrol Officer: Salary - US News & World Report
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: pellius on October 27, 2015, 11:29:40 PM
In LAPD, you make 60K upon completion of the academy and $64K when you complete probation. 

Yes, I see they raise it THIS YEAR. But, again, still a long way from making over a 100 grand a year. But I have no doubt this will eventually happen. Not that they have to because there is no shortage of men wanting to become cops. But since it's tax payers money it's not coming out of any bureaucrat's pockets. It's always easy, and fun, to spend other people's money.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: pellius on October 27, 2015, 11:33:12 PM
You bowed down and willingly allowed yourself to be called an elf, your opinion means less than nothing.

My opinion means a lot to you.

Still clinging to the gh15 memories.

God, you are such a shitty mod. You really are. The absolute worse this board has every had. Absolutely no class at all. I don't always agree with the other mods but at least they conduct themselves as such. You are just an utter disgrace.
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: jdooly on October 29, 2015, 10:05:54 AM
Harleys are cruisers, not sport bikes.
PS: Hook a fellow getbigger up with a new hi torque starter!
true!
Title: Re: Middle-Aged men and Harley Davidsons
Post by: jdooly on October 29, 2015, 10:10:52 AM
Ok then you can explain better than me how reliability has improved over the years.
   The evo motor was not bad by any means, but since the Twin Cam, major enjoy development has progressed into quieter, smoother, more horsepower motors.  The technology is still outdated IF you compare it to the Japanese, often racing inspired engineering.  However, HD is the flagship manufacture for "if its not broke, dont fix it" mentality.  They don't need to reinvent the wheel, they've created a legacy, like it or not.   :)