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The politician word games begin now. You'll hear things like "I said I was offered a scholarship by a man, but I embellished him actually being there, and I never used the word *formally*, thus I'm not a liar". ::)
West Point has no record of Carson applying for admission, Politico said. In Carson's book "Gifted Hands," he says he got a "full scholarship" to the military academy.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ben-carson-campaign-says-he-never-had-formal-offer-from-west-point-2015-11-06-151031648
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LOL @ Rush Lumbaugh.... "Ben carson was a poor kid who didn't know the DEFINITION of the word scholarship"
Um, didn't Ben Carson score higher on the SAT than any kid in Detroit in 20 years? He knew VERY well what the word meant...
RUSH: I think it's nothing but that. I mean, exactly. If you're a kid like Carson, who grew up poor and even at that age at 19, you're top ROTC and you're talking to one of the top dogs in the army, William Westmoreland, and he starts describing West Point to you and happens to mention it doesn't cost you anything, that we'll put you through college, whatever, he's gonna hear that as scholarship. That's what, to people even today of that age, if you don't pay to go to college, it's a scholarship. The fact that he doesn't know that they don't call it a scholarship does not disqualify him telling the story.
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LOL @ Rush Lumbaugh.... "Ben carson was a poor kid who didn't know the DEFINITION of the word scholarship"
Um, didn't Ben Carson score higher on the SAT than any kid in Detroit in 20 years? He knew VERY well what the word meant...
RUSH: I think it's nothing but that. I mean, exactly. If you're a kid like Carson, who grew up poor and even at that age at 19, you're top ROTC and you're talking to one of the top dogs in the army, William Westmoreland, and he starts describing West Point to you and happens to mention it doesn't cost you anything, that we'll put you through college, whatever, he's gonna hear that as scholarship. That's what, to people even today of that age, if you don't pay to go to college, it's a scholarship. The fact that he doesn't know that they don't call it a scholarship does not disqualify him telling the story.
Even by your standards, this is pitiful.
Being former military myself, I know firsthand of several terms used by the Armed Forces which civilians call something else.
"Appointment", "scholarship"......BIG DEAL!! At the end of the day, it meant Carson could go to that school a WITHOUT PAYING for his tuition, books, fees, room, and board.
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Even by your standards, this is pitiful.
Being former military myself, I know firsthand of several terms used by the Armed Forces which civilians call something else.
"Appointment", "scholarship"......BIG DEAL!! At the end of the day, it meant Carson could go to that school a WITHOUT PAYING for his tuition, books, fees, room, and board.
good point
neither one happened
other things that didn't happen were being "nominated" and "applying"
in fact Westmoreland was not in a position that would have even allowed him to nominate Carson
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Was westmoreland at the dinner as Carson claimed?
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Was westmoreland at the dinner as Carson claimed?
for the sake of argument let's say he was
he was still not in a position to even nominate Carson
nail meet coffin
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I don't want to let some vague poster claim vindicated.
I want them to respond to whether or not Carson told a lie. Being extended that offer by westmoreland is a huge deal.
Repubs, was this man at that event as Carson stated?
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for the sake of argument let's say he was
he was still not in a position to even nominate Carson
nail meet coffin
More like bullet meet foot, which puts you down to 7 toes.
Per your own link to the USMA site, JROTC guys from honor units can apply. Guess who was number one in that category for his unit.
A 4-star general could easily fast-track Carson's application up the chain. With that, his grades and his JROTC standing, Carson would be a lock.
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I don't want to let some vague poster claim vindicated.
I want them to respond to whether or not Carson told a lie. Being extended that offer by westmoreland is a huge deal.
Repubs, was this man at that event as Carson stated?
The response is already here (check the other threads). You just keep regurgitating this mess, to push this silly meme on Carson.
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No I have heard both ways. I read he was proven not to be lying. I read weatmoreand was not even there.
One of these claims is false. Was westmoreland absent, as the liberals claim? Because if so, Carson certainly lied- forgetting a few details sure isn't adding a famous person to the mix.
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More like bullet meet foot, which puts you down to 7 toes.
Per your own link to the USMA site, JROTC guys from honor units can apply. Guess who was number one in that category for his unit.
A 4-star general could easily fast-track Carson's application up the chain. With that, his grades and his JROTC standing, Carson would be a lock.
nope, they are ELIGIBLE to APPLY but still have to be nominated by someone on that list or nominated by their "Professor of Military Science or Senior Instructor"
and...of course... he also was never nominated and never applied
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nope, they are ELIGIBLE to APPLY but still have to be nominated by someone on that list or nominated by their "Professor of Military Science or Senior Instructor"
and...of course... he also was never nominated and never applied
Carson was the top JROTC guy. His professor of military science would have made the recommendation, the general fast-tracks it up the nominating chain, and it's a done deal.
Professors of military science are usually full-bird colonels. Flag officers can move paperwork up the chain just a wee bit faster.
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Carson was the top JROTC guy. His professor of military science would have made the recommendation, the general fast-tracks it up the nominating chain, and it's a done deal.
Professors of military science are usually full-bird colonels. Flag officers can move paperwork up the chain just a wee bit faster.
well too bad he didn't do that and although you claim "done deal" I'm sure there are plenty of very well qualified candidate who actually MAKE THE EFFORT to get a nomination and actually apply who are turned down
How disrespectful of Carson to be so lazy as to not even apply yet make the claim he was offered a scholarship
complete and total fabrication on his part but we're seeing that a large part of his personal history is highly embellished if not completely fabricated
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well too bad he didn't do that and although you claim "done deal" I'm sure there are plenty of very well qualified candidate who actually MAKE THE EFFORT to get a nomination and actually apply who are turned down
How disrespectful of Carson to be so lazy as to not even apply yet make the claim he was offered a scholarship
complete and total fabrication on his part but we're seeing that a large part of his personal history is highly embellished if not completely fabricated
He never claimed he did it. Too bad for you such a simple fact sails over your head.
Plus, you missed the part where his mother verified the near-stabbing incident. That article is only about 18 years old.
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He never claimed he did it. Too bad for you such a simple fact sails over your head.
Plus, you missed the part where his mother verified the near-stabbing incident. That article is only about 18 years old.
never claimed he did what?
he claimed he was offered a full scholarship and turned it down
we know that he made that claim and we know that's 100% false
I guess you're saying he never claimed that he was nominated and applied to West Point which of course is the only way he could have been actually offered an appointment or has he likes to call it... a full scholarship
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He claimed this very important man weatmoreand was at he dinner.
If he was not, then he told a lie.
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He claimed this very important man weatmoreand was at he dinner.
If he was not, then he told a lie.
From reading this thread (and others on this topic) it's pretty obvious that christians believe if something "happened" long enough in the past it doesn't really matter if it happened or if it's totally made up. You can still claim it's true.
For context please see the entire basis for the religion of christianity.
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From reading this thread (and others on this topic) it's pretty obvious that christians believe if something "happened" long enough in the past it doesn't really matter if it happened or if it's totally made up. You can still claim it's true.
For context please see the entire basis for the religion of christianity.
And as usual, when your premise gets torn to pieces, it's time to cue the religion-bashing.
Apparently, you've missed or ignored the multiple reports of how Carson has been slapping the media silly, regarding this hit job.
Howard Kurtz simply called it as Carson's "whipping the media's butt!"
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And as usual, when your premise gets torn to pieces, it's time to cue the religion-bashing.
Apparently, you've missed or ignored the multiple reports of how Carson has been slapping the media silly, regarding this hit job.
Howard Kurtz simply called it as Carson's "whipping the media's butt!"
and yet the facts remain
he claimed to have received an offer of a full scholarship and that has been proven to be a 100% lie
he was never nominated, never applied and never received an appointment
those facts continue to remain
like I said, you really need to pace yourself
Carson appears to be a pathological liar and you're going to have plenty of other absurd lies you'll feel compelled to defend
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I hope he's done....so we can move on. However if Westmoreland had said he could get him into West Point...he would have the power to do so. He'd have greased the wheels.
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and yet the facts remain
he claimed to have received an offer of a full scholarship and that has been proven to be a 100% lie
he was never nominated, never applied and never received an appointment
those facts continue to remain
like I said, you really need to pace yourself
Carson appears to be a pathological liar and you're going to have plenty of other absurd lies you'll feel compelled to defend
There's nothing to defend. Instead, it simply continuing to smack down the left winged foolishness you and others keep spewing, as your claims of Carson's lying go up in smoke.
Whether it was this mess, or the claim about Carson's near-stabbing incident (verified by his mother 18 years ago). Even some mess about a prank exam at Yale. The media goofies claimed Carson may have fabricated that.....until one of the pranksters who pulled that stunt came to the forefront. He was actually surprised that Carson got gagged on that one.
Add to that the millions Carson has raised since then, and it all amounts to a liberal press getting its clock cleaned, by the good doctor.
Again, the zero-clue diet is bad for your health. Please resume consumption immediately.
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But if westmoreland wasn't even there...
That's a big deal. It calls his other stories into credibility. Repubs cannot claim a win because his stories are 90% true and 10% heroics.
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Mcway, are you the Getbigger that I argued with a ton, 4 years ago, about Herman Cain?
One Getbigger kept saying despite all the accusers and texts and smoke, nobody could prove he was guilty.
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There's nothing to defend. Instead, it simply continuing to smack down the left winged foolishness you and others keep spewing, as your claims of Carson's lying go up in smoke.
Whether it was this mess, or the claim about Carson's near-stabbing incident (verified by his mother 18 years ago). Even some mess about a prank exam at Yale. The media goofies claimed Carson may have fabricated that.....until one of the pranksters who pulled that stunt came to the forefront. He was actually surprised that Carson got gagged on that one.
Add to that the millions Carson has raised since then, and it all amounts to a liberal press getting its clock cleaned, by the good doctor.
Again, the zero-clue diet is bad for your health. Please resume consumption immediately.
please confirm the following
was Carson nominated
did Carson apply
was Carson offered an appointment by West Point
yes or no is fine
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Mcway, are you the Getbigger that I argued with a ton, 4 years ago, about Herman Cain?
One Getbigger kept saying despite all the accusers and texts and smoke, nobody could prove he was guilty.
Exactly. To this day, you can't state what Cain supposedly did to those former NRA workers, neither of whom told the press despite being cleared by the NRA.
Then you had the other two liars, one with a history of bogus charges about former employers and the other, a nutcase who lost a libel and slander case with her former business partner.
Gee.... Why would I believe Herman Cain over them?
I guess you've missed the number of bogus charges in the news over the past two years: Zimmerman-Martin, Brown-Wilson, Rolling Stone-UVA, etc.
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Cain claimed he never did anything inappropriate in his 43 years of marriage. I called bullshit on getbig instantly. And months later, when he apologized and withdrew, I was proven right.
Same thing here. Caron repairs everything he can and quietly slips out of the race.
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Cain claimed he never did anything inappropriate in his 43 years of marriage. I called bullshit on getbig instantly. And months later, when he apologized and withdrew, I was proven right.
Same thing here. Caron repairs everything he can and quietly slips out of the race.
You weren't proven right on anything. Sex charges stick whether they're true or not. Ask the Duke lacrosse team about that one.
Carson is still high in the polls, raising money left and right, and this quibble is about the semantics about a school he never planned to attend.
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Cain said he never did anything inappropriate in 43 years of marriage. Exact quote.
Was he telling the truth when he said that?
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Exactly. To this day, you can't state what Cain supposedly did to those former NRA workers, neither of whom told the press despite being cleared by the NRA.
Then you had the other two liars, one with a history of bogus charges about former employers and the other, a nutcase who lost a libel and slander case with her former business partner.
Gee.... Why would I believe Herman Cain over them?
I guess you've missed the number of bogus charges in the news over the past two years: Zimmerman-Martin, Brown-Wilson, Rolling Stone-UVA, etc.
Hahahaha, this is nearly unbelievable.... you are literally wrong nearly 100% of the time. You put narrative over fact, ideology over reality.
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Hahahaha, this is nearly unbelievable.... you are literally wrong nearly 100% of the time. You put narrative over fact, ideology over reality.
I like MCWAY positions on many things. but this cain thing...
i literally argued with him for almost a year over it. and it's 4 years later, and he still thinks cain is innocent/framed/etc?
come on man, 43 years of nothing inappropriate? those were his exact words.
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Hahahaha, this is nearly unbelievable.... you are literally wrong nearly 100% of the time. You put narrative over fact, ideology over reality.
You're projecting again as usual. The reality is that Carson has beaten back the media hit job on him and has prospered in the polls and in the coffers, as a result. BTW, guess which GOP guy has the highest favor ability, per ABC-WaPo pill.
As for Cain, show us where those women from NRA told the press specifically what Cain supposedly did to them (Spoiler: Cain was cleared during an investigation of these charges).
The blonde who claimed Cain wanted her to blow him to get her job back? Check her lying past.
The gal, who was supposedly screwing Cain for a decade? Check what happened to her last time she lied about somebody (I.e. her former business partner).
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I like MCWAY positions on many things. but this cain thing...
i literally argued with him for almost a year over it. and it's 4 years later, and he still thinks cain is innocent/framed/etc?
come on man, 43 years of nothing inappropriate? those were his exact words.
I was talking about Carson. YOU brought up Cain, as your Carson narrative fell flat.
As for Cain, I say what I said back then. I give him the benefit of the doubt over a bunch of cowards and liars, especially ones sued and beaten in court for libel and slander.
Carson gets the same from me, especially with even some liberal media outlets, admitting that Carson's claims are basically accurate and Politico screwed up royally.
Howard Kurtz's quip that Carson has been "whipping the media's butt" pretty much says it all.
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admitting that Carson's claims are basically accurate and Politico screwed up royally.
Did you see the thread with 8 proven falsehoods in Carson's account? These aren't up for debate.
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I was talking about Carson. YOU brought up Cain, as your Carson narrative fell flat.
As for Cain, I say what I said back then. I give him the benefit of the doubt over a bunch of cowards and liars, especially ones sued and beaten in court for libel and slander.
Carson gets the same from me, especially with even some liberal media outlets, admitting that Carson's claims are basically accurate and Politico screwed up royally.
Howard Kurtz's quip that Carson has been "whipping the media's butt" pretty much says it all.
please post links to those "liberal media outlets" who are saying that Carson claims are basically accurate
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please post links to those "liberal media outlets" who are saying that Carson claims are basically accurate
"Politico!!!" is the new rallying cry, since "Benghazi!" was neutered by that inbred Cowdy.
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"Politico!!!" is the new rallying cry, since "Benghazi!" was neutered by that inbred Cowdy.
Politico is not one of the "liberal media outlets" that McWay is referring to since they stand by their story
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Politico is not one of the "liberal media outlets" that McWay is referring to since they stand by their story
if they used "misspoke" instead of "fabricated", they're 100% correct.
They just claimed the campaign admitted fabrication. The campaign wants us to believe carson accidentally got 8 things wrong in the Yale story alone.
Carson is now blaming a ghostwriter for all the errors. Funny, it was HIM retelling those stories ;)
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Carson's "highest SAT score in Detroit in 20 years" is a HUGGGGGGGGGE lie as well.
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Carson's "highest SAT score in Detroit in 20 years" is a HUGGGGGGGGGE lie as well.
I have a feeling he is a complete lie, he seems stupid. He is hiding some big lies me thinks
Detroit also has me worried as it is a festering shithole of corruption.
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Did you see the thread with 8 proven falsehoods in Carson's account? These aren't up for debate.
Did you see the guy who helped pull that prank verify Carson's account?
"When I read about the story in the Wall Street Journal, I immediately said to my wife and friend, 'That was the prank we played at the Record! And Ben Carson was in the class."- Curtis Bakal, editorial assistant at the Yale Record
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Did you see the guy who helped pull that prank verify Carson's account?
"When I read about the story in the Wall Street Journal, I immediately said to my wife and friend, 'That was the prank we played at the Record! And Ben Carson was in the class."- Curtis Bakal, editorial assistant at the Yale Record
please post links to those "liberal media outlets" who are saying that Carson claims are basically accurate
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please post links to those "liberal media outlets" who are saying that Carson claims are basically accurate
megyn kelly can't defend/discuss all these holds in the story - she just blames politico.
carson cannot defend/discuss all the wrongs in his story - he just blames the media.
Repubs have a seriously flawed candidate. This many proven lies and he's only 2 weeks into national vetting?
"I had no relationship with that company" who paid him millions for speeches? LOL ummmmmm
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megyn kelly can't defend/discuss all these holds in the story - she just blames politico.
carson cannot defend/discuss all the wrongs in his story - he just blames the media.
Repubs have a seriously flawed candidate. This many proven lies and he's only 2 weeks into national vetting?
"I had no relationship with that company" who paid him millions for speeches? LOL ummmmmm
He is a liar, like most religious people, he is above us so facts don't matter.
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please post links to those "liberal media outlets" who are saying that Carson claims are basically accurate
If you're goal is to win an Oscar for playing dumb, congrats are in order. I already posted the CNN link about this issue about Politico on at least one of these threads about Carson (Coach's thread).
HuffPo cites the Yale story as well, referencing the Buzzfeed article that interviews Bakal.
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If you're goal is to win an Oscar for playing dumb, congrats are in order. I already posted the CNN link about this issue about Politico on at least one of these threads about Carson (Coach's thread).
HuffPo cites the Yale story as well, referencing the Buzzfeed article that interviews Bakal.
lol, too lazy to defend himself, it;s your job to back up your insane claims.
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lol, too lazy to defend himself, it;s your job to back up your insane claims.
Apparently you're runner-up for that same Oscar. I already backed my "insane" claims, genius. Or did you not see my reference to CNN article posted days ago.
Not to mention, I cited the QUOTE from one of the men who pulled that Yale prank that Carson referenced.
Like Straw, you need to lay off the clue-free diet.
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Conservative Carson supporters really need to wake up to his pro-amnesty, GOPe positions. Otherwise, you’ve got Trump, Cruz and Carson splitting the conservative vote and Rino Rubio cruising to victory.
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megyn kelly can't defend/discuss all these holds in the story - she just blames politico.
carson cannot defend/discuss all the wrongs in his story - he just blames the media.
Repubs have a seriously flawed candidate. This many proven lies and he's only 2 weeks into national vetting?
"I had no relationship with that company" who paid him millions for speeches? LOL ummmmmm
What millions? According to a Breitbart, Carson did four speeches over a 10-year span to events sponsored by Mannatech for the Washington Speakers Bureau. The Bureau got $42,000 for that last speech, some of which they paid to Carson.
He's been nationally vetted for months. It's only when he started beating Trump and H.Clinton in some polls that these bogus hitpieces pop up.
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Conservative Carson supporters really need to wake up to his pro-amnesty, GOPe positions. Otherwise, you’ve got Trump, Cruz and Carson splitting the conservative vote and Rino Rubio cruising to victory.
THIS
Cruz has shown himself to be professional and dignified.
In the meantime, Rubio's in the mud fighting about credit cards he, as a lawyer, accidentally fudged. Trump is calling everyone names and still bragging about his wealth. Carson said in 2013 that he supported gun bans in cities - a HUGE deal.
It's Cruz or lose. Rubio and Hilary are very close on most issues. Trump and Carson are just begging for a meltdown and handing Clinton 40 states.
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THIS
Cruz has shown himself to be professional and dignified.
In the meantime, Rubio's in the mud fighting about credit cards he, as a lawyer, accidentally fudged. Trump is calling everyone names and still bragging about his wealth. Carson said in 2013 that he supported gun bans in cities - a HUGE deal.
It's Cruz or lose. Rubio and Hilary are very close on most issues. Trump and Carson are just begging for a meltdown and handing Clinton 40 states.
(http://overpassesforamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ted-cruz-liberty-mustang.jpg)
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megyn kelly can't defend/discuss all these holds in the story - she just blames politico.
carson cannot defend/discuss all the wrongs in his story - he just blames the media.
Repubs have a seriously flawed candidate. This many proven lies and he's only 2 weeks into national vetting?
"I had no relationship with that company" who paid him millions for speeches? LOL ummmmmm
What millions? According to a Breitbart, Carson did four speeches over a 10-year span to events sponsored by Mannatech for the Washington Speakers Bureau. The Bureau got $42,000 for that last speech, some of which they paid to Carson.
Wait. You mean 240 is back embellished? Didn't see that one coming. lol
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Didn't he have a 9 year 'relationship' with the company?
If he made ONE FREAKING DOLLAR from them, then he had a relationship.
And he claimed, at the debate, he had ZERO relationship. He lied.
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$42k for one of the speeches.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/10/ben-carson-mannatech/412987/
He also did other speeches, did videos, let them use his image on the website, etc.
"No relationship" = Carson is a liar and more importantly, he's an anti-gun candidate.
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Didn't he have a 9 year 'relationship' with the company?
If he made ONE FREAKING DOLLAR from them, then he had a relationship.
And he claimed, at the debate, he had ZERO relationship. He lied.
He made money from the Washington Speech Bureau. Check the Breitbart article.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/01/facts-dr-ben-carson-mannatech/
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He made money from the Washington Speech Bureau. Check the Breitbart article.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/01/facts-dr-ben-carson-mannatech/
He was on the mannatech's website. That's a relationship.
He endorsed their product - saved him from cancer, right? Endorsing is a relationsihp.
MCWAY, I know, you still believe CAIN was framed and he's innocent despite him admitted payoffs and sexting.
BUT please tell me you don't truly believe carson had NO RELATIONSHIP with that company? He had a 9 year relationship with them. I guess if you can overlook Cain's 11-year affair, you can look past Carson's 9 year relationship.
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He was on the mannatech's website. That's a relationship.
He endorsed their product - saved him from cancer, right? Endorsing is a relationsihp.
MCWAY, I know, you still believe CAIN was framed and he's innocent despite him admitted payoffs and sexting.
BUT please tell me you don't truly believe carson had NO RELATIONSHIP with that company? He had a 9 year relationship with them. I guess if you can overlook Cain's 11-year affair, you can look past Carson's 9 year relationship.
More revisionist history on you part, 240. Not only has Cain NOT admitted to payoffs or sexting, but he released a detailed dismantling of these allegations two years, when this crap resurfaced as he was starting his radio show.
http://www.caintv.com/truth-wins-the-facts-that-dest
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More revisionist history on you part, 240. Not only has Cain NOT admitted to payoffs or sexting, but he released a detailed dismantling of these allegations two years, when this crap resurfaced as he was starting his radio show.
http://www.caintv.com/truth-wins-the-facts-that-dest
hmmm i'm not sure "caintv.com" is the place I'd go for unbiased info on Cain.
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hmmm i'm not sure "caintv.com" is the place I'd go for unbiased info on Cain.
Yet you'll go to left-wing hack sites to get "unbiased" info on Cain.
Besides, I do recall sourcing multiple articles from multiple news sites, citing some of the very things Cain mentioned on his site.
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LOL
there were texts and receipts and a nice apology. "Never did anything inappropriate in 43 years" and "i'm willing to take a polygraph" but never would.
LOL sorry, you might be the ONLY person on earth that still thinks cain was never naughty.
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LOL
there were texts and receipts and a nice apology. "Never did anything inappropriate in 43 years" and "i'm willing to take a polygraph" but never would.
LOL sorry, you might be the ONLY person on earth that still thinks cain was never naughty.
Polygraphs are useless,completely subjective.
They are useful for making people nervous, that's it. Just don't bother with Mcway dude, he is out to lunch, his staunch religious views have clearly permeated his mind completely. Mcway is never wrong, EVER!
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Polygraphs are useless,completely subjective.
They are useful for making people nervous, that's it. Just don't bother with Mcway dude, he is out to lunch, his staunch religious views have clearly permeated his mind completely. Mcway is never wrong, EVER!
Mcway's got god on his side and god is infallible.
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LOL
there were texts and receipts and a nice apology. "Never did anything inappropriate in 43 years" and "i'm willing to take a polygraph" but never would.
LOL sorry, you might be the ONLY person on earth that still thinks cain was never naughty.
Big deal! Cain never denied calling this woman or helping her financially. That hardly constitutes an affair. The info is on the link for all to see. Maybe you should laugh at yourself for believing a woman who got sued in court for libel and LOST over the former Godfather's Pizza CEO.
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MCWAY, I know, you still believe CAIN was framed and he's innocent despite him admitted payoffs and sexting.
More revisionist history on you part, 240. Not only has Cain NOT admitted to payoffs or sexting, but he released a detailed dismantling of these allegations two years, when this crap resurfaced as he was starting his radio show.
http://www.caintv.com/truth-wins-the-facts-that-dest
Another day, another blatant lie? Shocker.
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Polygraphs are useless,completely subjective.
They are useful for making people nervous, that's it. Just don't bother with Mcway dude, he is out to lunch, his staunch religious views have clearly permeated his mind completely. Mcway is never wrong, EVER!
My religious views have zilch to do with the evidence backing Cain and refuting his accusers. Just as 240 brings up Cain when he struggles with me on topics having nothing to do with the former Godfather's Pizza CEO, you take shots at my religious views when you're running on empty, on a particular topic.
BTW, notice how 240 doesn't mention a polygraph for Cain's accusers, especially the two proven liars, one of whom lost a libel suit against her. Where's the presumption of innocence for the accused?
Oh, that must be my "staunch religious views" again, that whole innocent-until-proven-guilty thing.
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Cain is a lying piece of shit, Bill Cosby is a lying piece of shit, Ben Carson is a lying piece of shit.
Next.
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Cain is a lying piece of shit, Bill Cosby is a lying piece of shit, Ben Carson is a lying piece of shit.
Cue some immature fckwad to say "but but but obama...."
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THIS
Cruz has shown himself to be professional and dignified.
In the meantime, Rubio's in the mud fighting about credit cards he, as a lawyer, accidentally fudged. Trump is calling everyone names and still bragging about his wealth. Carson said in 2013 that he supported gun bans in cities - a HUGE deal.
It's Cruz or lose. Rubio and Hilary are very close on most issues. Trump and Carson are just begging for a meltdown and handing Clinton 40 states.
Liar.
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Repubs run Cruz, or repubs lose.
They made their choice. He's out.