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probably could have done more if the people would have backed off sucking in all the oxygen in the air ::) ::) ::) impressive though...
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I thought a flat back was required for this test of strenfs ? At least it used to be. Oh well...Impressive all the same.
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Strong mofo!
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Insane!!! :o :o
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Wow. There's breaking a record, and then there's breaking a record. Sarychev's lift looked great, and he's looking very big, and a lot more solid than even a few months ago.
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Unreal. :o
What's with the twinkie looking spotters though? ::)
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Beast
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If his arm snaps he's pretty much dead/seriously injured right?
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Nice lift...
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Raw should be no cheating...drug free...
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I thought a flat back was required for this test of strenfs ? At least it used to be. Oh well...Impressive all the same.
I know what you mean but it's still impressive like you said. Now it's the big inverted U bridge but I still give him props. Maybe a 650lbs bench press guy without the crazy arch?
Nice to see powerlifting move away from these cheat bench shirts and squat suits. Now if we can get the depth down on the current squats that are passed I might start liking power lifting again.
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Can someone please explain to me how this works in terms of breaking records in the powerlifting world? It seems like every few weeks a new record is set. If there are MULTIPLE powerlifting federations, and each is claiming a world record, who is right? Its very disorganized. There should be ONE powerlifting federation, which houses all record holders. If you want to break a world record, you should be required to compete under that ONE federation. Since all powerlifting organizations have their own standards, its almost impossible to say who really does hold the world record for any lift. ??? ??? ??? Can someone please explain how the system currently works.
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Can someone please explain to me how this works in terms of breaking records in the powerlifting world? It seems like every few weeks a new record is set. If there are MULTIPLE powerlifting federations, and each is claiming a world record, who is right? Its very disorganized. There should be ONE powerlifting federation, which houses all record holders. If you want to break a world record, you should be required to compete under that ONE federation. Since all powerlifting organizations have their own standards, its almost impossible to say who really does hold the world record for any lift. ??? ??? ??? Can someone please explain how the system currently works.
Just multiple federations that don't recognize each other. At least with boxing they have unification bouts for their undisputed champion of the world. In power lifting they have a raw federation, one that allows only certain bench shirts and one that allows anything like those strait jacket sling shot shirts where you see the crazy bench numbers.
That's why I'm a fan of Olympic lifting. You lift it over head or you don't. Many Gold medalist today don't even wear a lifting belt.
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Lol, I'm sure if you had a cleaner view of the side, that arch wouldn't be far off from other big lifters of the last 50 years. The guy is so thick it's hard to judge, I think he lifted in that meet at #380/173 lbs/kgs -
(http://fuertesyrobustos.tk/images/stories/kirillsarychev/sarychev%20kirill%20mountain.jpg).
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Made that look easy :o
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Just multiple federations that don't recognize each other. At least with boxing they have unification bouts for their undisputed champion of the world. In power lifting they have a raw federation, one that allows only certain bench shirts and one that allows anything like those strait jacket sling shot shirts where you see the crazy bench numbers.
That's why I'm a fan of Olympic lifting. You lift it over head or you don't. Many Gold medalist today don't even wear a lifting belt.
Thanks Obama for multiple powerlifting federations. He's probably behind it all!
(http://i.imgur.com/ZdATN4f.jpg)
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Looked like a clean lift that will be respected by most, except a few anti-drug guys :D
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Lol, I'm sure if you had a cleaner view of the side, that arch wouldn't be far off from other big lifters of the last 50 years. The guy is so thick it's hard to judge, I think he lifted in that meet at #380/173 lbs/kgs -
(http://fuertesyrobustos.tk/images/stories/kirillsarychev/sarychev%20kirill%20mountain.jpg).
Cisternino lowered the dose?
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damn looked so clean and easy
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I thought a flat back was required for this test of strenfs ? At least it used to be. Oh well...Impressive all the same.
All meets I competed it allowed an arch but your butt had to remain on the bench.
Here is an easy flat back 705.
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And Spoto's 722 record from May-13 has fallen.
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I thought a flat back was required for this test of strenfs ? At least it used to be. Oh well...Impressive all the same.
Thought wrong.
An arch has always been allowed. Butt and upper back has to remain in contact with the bench is all.
Anyone foolish enough to attempt to press huge weight who DOESN'T set up with a decent arch is begging for serious shoulder problems. You want the back pinched and the shoulders behind the chest to protect the shoulders.
If you don't know this, you don't know much about anything pressing-wise.
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Can someone please explain to me how this works in terms of breaking records in the powerlifting world? It seems like every few weeks a new record is set. If there are MULTIPLE powerlifting federations, and each is claiming a world record, who is right? Its very disorganized. There should be ONE powerlifting federation, which houses all record holders. If you want to break a world record, you should be required to compete under that ONE federation. Since all powerlifting organizations have their own standards, its almost impossible to say who really does hold the world record for any lift. ??? ??? ??? Can someone please explain how the system currently works.
The all-time raw pressing record (not drug-free) is rarely broken, regardless of federation.
Only three men have claimed the title in the last, oh, dozen years.
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Now that that's cleared up, let me congratulate this man on his feat.
That press is absolutely faultless. It was smooth, even, no chest compression, and a powerful drive.
Seeing a human bench press that much weight boggles the knowing mind.
This man is a TRUE freak.
I'm just shaking my head ... :o
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what happened to spoto?
i remember seeing him put up 705 or maybe 715 like it was nothing... thought he would be breaking his own records for years to come
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spoto was the record holder with 722. No idea what he's doing now.
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Spoto's rotor cuff went bad on him, had surgury a bit ago, and had/has to do a ton of rehab. He's just now starting to come back.
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Dude's got a +400kg deadlift too.
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All Zakuskis and summer vacations in Tchernobyl.
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Sure Spoto will try and get the record back.
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Sure Spoto will try and get the record back.
Still, a one lift wonder like Spoto will always be behind a well-rounded lifter such as Sarichev. In respect at least, now also in numbers.
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Sure Spoto will try and get the record back.
I don't see Spoto beating his previous record with all the issues he's had since.
He's also quite a bit older than this Russian giant.
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Sarychev is 27, and has room to grow, I can see him at #400lbs+ too. He's not looking unhealthy at these extreme weights. I wouldn't be surprised if he pushes the record into the #760's before he's done. I can't see anyone coming close right now.
Look at how fast he moves #726/330 - http://instagram.com/p/-Y0uJysbEw/ .
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Still, a one lift wonder like Spoto will always be behind a well-rounded lifter such as Sarichev. In respect at least, now also in numbers.
A) I, too, don't hold much hope for Spoto to reclaim the record. Respect to him, but his injury has likely put a kibosh on any future 700-plus attempts.
B) This cat, who can also pull like a mutha, apparently, is the new king of FREAK.
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Sarychev is 27.
Lol, you'll never guess.
Googled him and dude is even bigger than Koklyaev. Must be about 2m high.
(http://cs623224.vk.me/v623224491/a5ea/NY6g4YRr1AQ.jpg)
With Cutler. :D
(http://cs631819.vk.me/v631819543/995/BoJz5kW0X-0.jpg)
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Lol, you'll never guess.
Googled him and dude is even bigger than Koklyaev. Must be about 2m high.
(http://cs623224.vk.me/v623224491/a5ea/NY6g4YRr1AQ.jpg)
With Cutler. :D
(http://cs631819.vk.me/v631819543/995/BoJz5kW0X-0.jpg)
Guys a beast.
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Spoto's shoulder is recovering and he's back to repping 600lbs again.
Prior to injury he was shooting for a 750lb raw bench, but that was 2 years ago.
Hope he can get back to worldclass form, but it'll be a stretch at his age.
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The Russians OWN Powerlifting right now. It's as simple as that.
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white people - strong as fuck
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white people - strong as fuck
weird isnt it, as the hebrews are world class athletes in nearly every sport, bar power lifting/strong man
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weird isnt it, as the hebrews are world class athletes in nearly every sport, bar power lifting/strong man
It might be something to do with structure or bone/tendon/ligament strength.
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Spoto's shoulder is recovering and he's back to repping 600lbs again.
Well, that's good news. Undoubtedly the man is one of benching's all-time greatest (to put it mildly). It's just that, the HUGE stresses (drugs, incredible bodyweights, etc.) that are required to perform such otherworldly feats usually don't allow for more than one all-out run at the prize.
Injury requiring surgery at this level is more often than not a death knell for future record glory.
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It might be something to do with structure or bone/tendon/ligament strength.
Blacks simply are not built for absolute strength.
Not that there haven't been some unreal black strength athletes, because there have been. But facts are facts. Whites of Northern European heritage own and will likely always own this world.
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James Henderson, an Arfican American, was the first human to bench 700+raw. Mark Henry, of WWE fame, is considered to be one of the top 3 strongest men who have ever lived. Just sayin'.
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Blacks simply are not built for absolute strength.
Not that there haven't been some unreal black strength athletes, because there have been. But facts are facts. Whites of Northern European heritage own and will likely always own this world.
Race post with the usual codicils. Just open up with your hate and be proud.
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James Henderson, an Arfican American, was the first human to bench 700+raw. Mark Henry, of WWE fame, is considered to be one of the top 3 strongest men who have ever lived. Just sayin'.
Yes. As I say, there have been some amazingly successful black strength athletes.
On a side note, I spent a weekend with Henry at a mutual friend's house east of Toronto. Huge and friendly man.
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weird isnt it, as the hebrews are world class athletes in nearly every sport, bar power lifting/strong man
Caucasians kick ass in pro surfing as well
(http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/dailypix/2003/Nov/01/homepage_b.jpg)
(http://cdn2.surfersvillage.com/img/st/east1.jpg)
(http://www.grindtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/21/lani-doherty.jpg)
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Now that that's cleared up, let me congratulate this man on his feat.
That press is absolutely faultless. It was smooth, even, no chest compression, and a powerful drive.
Seeing a human bench press that much weight boggles the knowing mind.
This man is a TRUE freak.
I'm just shaking my head ... :o
Anyone who has ever powerlifted with those thin 25kg plates and been a newbie beside people pressing 4 or more 25kg plates/side knows how weak you feel beside people like this guy. I respect these raw lifts, who cares about the arch, way more than the shirted lifts of 1000lbs+.
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Anyone who has ever powerlifted with those thin 25kg plates and been a newbie beside people pressing 4 or more 25kg plates/side knows how weak you feel beside people like this guy. I respect these raw lifts, who cares about the arch, way more than the shirted lifts of 1000lbs+.
I do hope that RAW lifting starts to gain more popularity.
Powerlifting is one of the oldest and most competed sports ever. Unofficially anway, and the bench in particular.
I mean, who hasn't tried their bench max against his buddies at some point?
But if your lift fails because you can not get the bar down on your chest... Hard to imagine any sporting activity that has had such a complete turnaround in what you're trying to do.
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It might be something to do with structure or bone/tendon/ligament strength.
Wider hips/midsection for one thing. Maybe it's got something to do with Neanderthal genes, which supposedly is the one major genetic difference between people from south of Sahara and other ethnic groups on the planet.
NN
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My favorite iron game genre and era is 70's Powerlifting.
These days, mostly a fiasco / side show. (Except for the good raw leagues).
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8506/8533215926_4e4b922550_b.jpg)
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Mike MacDonald- the MAN amongst benchers !
Larry Pacifico, Ken Laine, Ted Arcidi, Kaz, Doug Young, Jim Williams, Ken Patera .... all GREAT benchers, set the standards decades ago
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In my opinion, big benchers in the 70's and 80's had tremendous pec development and a thickness that is rarely seen today among pl'ers ( not that it matters because numbers are the name of the game). Maybe it is due to the tucking of the elbows combined with the modern shirts.
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Ron Jeremy ?
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Lol, you'll never guess.
Googled him and dude is even bigger than Koklyaev. Must be about 2m high.
(http://cs623224.vk.me/v623224491/a5ea/NY6g4YRr1AQ.jpg)
With Cutler. :D
(http://cs631819.vk.me/v631819543/995/BoJz5kW0X-0.jpg)
he should have give WSM competition a try....he'd do freaking well
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looks natty :o
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Blacks simply are not built for absolute strength.
Not that there haven't been some unreal black strength athletes, because there have been. But facts are facts. Whites of Northern European heritage own and will likely always own this world.
And the facts are the facts, blacks have more fast twitch muscle fibers. (I'm not black so don't start the racist bs) If every young black athlete in america stopped chasing the NFL dream and took up olympic lifting we'd have gold medals in America. Swimming, marathon running, cycling, etc....whites will always have the advantage of course. But I don't know how you can spit such nonsense in a sport like powerlifting that relies so heavily on Type II muscle fibers which blacks clearly have more of.
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And the facts are the facts, blacks have more fast twitch muscle fibers. (I'm not black so don't start the racist bs) If every young black athlete in america stopped chasing the NFL dream and took up olympic lifting we'd have gold medals in America. Swimming, marathon running, cycling, etc....whites will always have the advantage of course. But I don't know how you can spit such nonsense in a sport like powerlifting that relies so heavily on Type II muscle fibers which blacks clearly have more of.
blacks. are superior in all that shit who u fukin kiddin neegaboy
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blacks. are superior in all that shit who u fukin kiddin neegaboy
they are more gifted in explosive power sports but generally they don't have the muscular endurance whites do.
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they are more gifted in explosive power sports but generally they don't have the muscular endurance whites do.
thats. cause they are poor and cant afford food kenyans like the great keyshawns win marathons neegal
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And the facts are the facts, blacks have more fast twitch muscle fibers. (I'm not black so don't start the racist bs) If every young black athlete in america stopped chasing the NFL dream and took up olympic lifting we'd have gold medals in America. Swimming, marathon running, cycling, etc....whites will always have the advantage of course. But I don't know how you can spit such nonsense in a sport like powerlifting that relies so heavily on Type II muscle fibers which blacks clearly have more of.
I don't know if it is absolutely true that powerlifting relies heavily on fast twitch compared to slower fibers, though.
It is certainly true that speed work is a big part of what is done but I am wondering if that is because generally speaking, we don't train fast twitch all that much. When you get down to the big weight for yourself, you slow down. Everything slows down.
Not saying it isn't a big part of it, but to me, training fast twitch is the icing on the cake, not the primary source of strength in lifts at the maximum of your ability.
This is speculative, though - I'm not an expert. I do have a decent natural bench and I do bench extremely slowly at max, but maybe I could be a hell of a lot better by incorporating more speed into my work.
(Not talking explosive olympic movements, obviously)
(Edit: doing a google search seems to suggest I'm probably wrong :))
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And the facts are the facts, blacks have more fast twitch muscle fibers. (I'm not black so don't start the racist bs) If every young black athlete in america stopped chasing the NFL dream and took up olympic lifting we'd have gold medals in America. Swimming, marathon running, cycling, etc....whites will always have the advantage of course. But I don't know how you can spit such nonsense in a sport like powerlifting that relies so heavily on Type II muscle fibers which blacks clearly have more of.
Doesn't matter, either way. Blacks generally cannot compete with whites in displays of absolute strength and physical ruggedness.
Whatever the reason, big fuck-all.
We are kings.
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There are a handful of raw benchers right now closing in on the 700 pound raw. The next 6 months is going to be really interesting to see who hits that 700 plus next. It's going to be a fun race to watch!
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And the facts are the facts, blacks have more fast twitch muscle fibers. (I'm not black so don't start the racist bs) If every young black athlete in america stopped chasing the NFL dream and took up olympic lifting we'd have gold medals in America. Swimming, marathon running, cycling, etc....whites will always have the advantage of course. But I don't know how you can spit such nonsense in a sport like powerlifting that relies so heavily on Type II muscle fibers which blacks clearly have more of.
Asians (Koreans, Chinese, etc) have an advantage in weightlifting (Olympic) as they have short arms, short legs and long backs genetically. See medal table from IWF worlds - North Korea were leading last time I checked.
Races other than black are allowed to be genetically suited to sports.
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And the facts are the facts, blacks have more fast twitch muscle fibers. (I'm not black so don't start the racist bs) If every young black athlete in america stopped chasing the NFL dream and took up olympic lifting we'd have gold medals in America. Swimming, marathon running, cycling, etc....whites will always have the advantage of course. But I don't know how you can spit such nonsense in a sport like powerlifting that relies so heavily on Type II muscle fibers which blacks clearly have more of.
The NFL dream hasn't stopped the US from producing world class sprinters so it shouldn't stop the US producing world class lifters either. That's not also taking into consideration that the vast majority of blacks don't live inside the US and aren't chasing NFL contracts. At the end of the day, people will always gravitate to what they are good at.
I just think there's more to absolute strength than purely muscular power and testosterone levels. Forgetting muscles for a moment, just think about the strength of bones, ligaments and tendons required to C&J +500lbs or bench +600lbs.
Look at the nation of Iceland. It's entire population is less than 1/10 the population of LA - yet it's produced among the finest strength athletes in history. There must clearly be some genetic reasons for this.
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There are a handful of raw benchers right now closing in on the 700 pound raw. The next 6 months is going to be really interesting to see who hits that 700 plus next. It's going to be a fun race to watch!
For reps I hope.....at least 8.
Useless otherwise.
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Monster.
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Holy shit. He's not that fat either. Just looks powerful.