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Title: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Tennisballz on December 12, 2015, 11:27:28 AM
Getting into a serious relationship with the modern first world american woman.  Especially if she has kids.  This is a pitfall that will bankrupt you, age you, make you fat, grey/bald and leave you horny most nights.  My advice is to work on yourself and your career.  Dating is great, but don't fool yourself because everything will always funnel back to a big house, cars, kids and a boring ass life.  Women always come and go and if you need companionship for whatever reason then seek it out, however just don't let it go any further than dating.  When she presents you with the ultimatum, give her her walking papers.  And if you must, order up a hooker every now and then.  Be well.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Parker on December 12, 2015, 11:37:38 AM
Let me introduce you to a man named Patrice O'Neal.
Listen carefully.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Nether Animal on December 12, 2015, 11:39:28 AM
Knew what this was about before I clicked.

Agreed.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Pray_4_War on December 12, 2015, 11:41:06 AM
Let me introduce you to a man named Patrice O'Neal.
Listen carefully.


The fucking legend of Patrice O'Neal.  Champion of men's rights.  Peace be upon him.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Oblique on December 12, 2015, 11:43:01 AM
Treat them like shit.

That is what I've always said.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: muscularny on December 12, 2015, 11:48:25 AM
Treat them like shit.

That is what I've always said.
but what have you done?

Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Wiggs on December 12, 2015, 11:49:46 AM
Patrice O'Neal is a legend. I know all this guy's material forward and backwards. RIP.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Yamcha on December 12, 2015, 11:50:06 AM
Bitcoin
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 12, 2015, 12:00:13 PM
Marriage
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Tennisballz on December 12, 2015, 12:14:52 PM
Let me introduce you to a man named Patrice O'Neal.
Listen carefully.

Best video I've watched in a while!  Thanks you kind sir  :)
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Ronnie Rep on December 12, 2015, 02:15:25 PM
Love me some Patrice O'Neal :)
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: drkaje on December 12, 2015, 02:20:18 PM
Patrice was a genius!
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: robcguns on December 12, 2015, 02:33:12 PM
Let me introduce you to a man named Patrice O'Neal.
Listen carefully.


He was a pretty funny negro.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Wiggs on December 12, 2015, 02:38:36 PM
Moar Patrice!
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 12, 2015, 02:42:57 PM
I've been pontificating this here for years.

 - No marriage
 - No children
 - No co-habitation

Just follow these 3 rules and you'll do fine in life.  In most cases, much better than fine.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Wiggs on December 12, 2015, 03:12:36 PM
I've been pontificating this here for years.

 - No marriage
 - No children
 - No co-habitation

Just follow these 3 rules and you'll do fine in life.  In most cases, much better than fine.

That's the easy way out. A movement needs to be created to reinstate the original family and the pecking order. We do that, you'll love marriage, you'll want to have children and you'll want to cohabitate...This is the natural way of life. It's a shame men have to adopt this thought to survive in this culture.  You understand this is what they want right?  Are you going to be a pussy and let them win?  You'd have never thought this way 100 years ago.  Don't be a pussy.  Become a righteous man and you'll attract righteous people.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: calfzilla on December 12, 2015, 03:18:44 PM
That's the easy way out. A movement needs to be created to reinstate the original family and the pecking order. We do that, you'll love marriage, you'll want to have children and you'll want to cohabitate...This is the natural way of life. It's a shame men have to adopt this thought to survive in this culture.  You understand this is what they want right?  Are you going to be a pussy and let them win?  You'd have never thought this way 100 years ago.  Don't be a pussy.  Become a righteous man and you'll attract righteous people.

Good post wiggs. We should stive for 1950s marriage dynamic.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: NickEdge779 on December 12, 2015, 03:19:59 PM
Good post wiggs. We should stive for 1950s marriage dynamic.

Most men want the 1950's marriage dynamic, most women don't. Therefore it will never happen.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: calfzilla on December 12, 2015, 03:23:45 PM
Most men want the 1950's marriage dynamic, most women don't. Therefore it will never happen.

The best one could do is stay always form american women, they are the worst. Lean towards European, arab and even indian women. You're looking for the traditional values and the woman should actually want to do something for the man.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: drkaje on December 12, 2015, 03:28:24 PM
Good post wiggs. We should stive for 1950s marriage dynamic.

Wiggs must be forgetting about black rights in the 50s.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: calfzilla on December 12, 2015, 03:33:07 PM
Wiggs must be forgetting about black rights in the 50s.

We are not talking about that in this thread; it's about marriage. Try to keep up.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Radical Plato on December 12, 2015, 03:35:46 PM
Getting into a serious relationship with the modern first world american woman.  Especially if she has kids.  This is a pitfall that will bankrupt you, age you, make you fat, grey/bald and leave you horny most nights.  My advice is to work on yourself and your career.  Dating is great, but don't fool yourself because everything will always funnel back to a big house, cars, kids and a boring ass life.  Women always come and go and if you need companionship for whatever reason then seek it out, however just don't let it go any further than dating.  When she presents you with the ultimatum, give her her walking papers.  And if you must, order up a hooker every now and then.  Be well.
I agree with this.  The worst mistake I ever made in my life was partnering with a single Mum.  My greatest regret.  I have learned to be happy living alone.  I learned to like myself and my own company.  I still spend time with women, but at my age feel put off by many of them.  I just see how wretched they are and how deeply conflicted and tormented they are, many of them have lost their true selves or never known their true selves.  Many are unlikely to reach a state of self actualization or even develop the most basic of insights into their personalities. 

Most women refuse to develop character so place all their stock in the market value of their vagina.  This is why they end up so tormented and bitter at middle age, their vagina is no longer considered valuable and they haven't developed any other desirable personality traits.  A sad spectacle indeed.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Lustral on December 12, 2015, 03:38:35 PM
That's the easy way out. A movement needs to be created to reinstate the original family and the pecking order. We do that, you'll love marriage, you'll want to have children and you'll want to cohabitate...This is the natural way of life. It's a shame men have to adopt this thought to survive in this culture.  You understand this is what they want right?  Are you going to be a pussy and let them win?  You'd have never thought this way 100 years ago.  Don't be a pussy.  Become a righteous man and you'll attract righteous people.

Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: drkaje on December 12, 2015, 03:40:26 PM
We are not talking about that in this thread; it's about marriage. Try to keep up.

There's not much benefit for guys in getting married, these days.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: affeman on December 12, 2015, 03:43:58 PM
Getting into a serious relationship with the modern first world american woman.  Especially if she has kids.  This is a pitfall that will bankrupt you, age you, make you fat, grey/bald and leave you horny most nights.  My advice is to work on yourself and your career.  Dating is great, but don't fool yourself because everything will always funnel back to a big house, cars, kids and a boring ass life.  Women always come and go and if you need companionship for whatever reason then seek it out, however just don't let it go any further than dating.  When she presents you with the ultimatum, give her her walking papers.  And if you must, order up a hooker every now and then.  Be well.

U don't know shit about a happy, fulfilled life

(http://naturallydowntoearth.com/wp-content/uploads/bigstock-Happy-Family-7232451.jpg)
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Fortress on December 12, 2015, 03:46:30 PM
I LOVE females, but a man's life is always led towards chaos if he allows a broad too much entry into his world. Keep her at arms' length (no marriage, co-habitation, etc.) and you're good to go.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Wiggs on December 12, 2015, 03:47:54 PM
Most men want the 1950's marriage dynamic, most women don't. Therefore it will never happen.

Wrong. Women control the pussy.  Men control the money and the dick.  If you make yourself irresistible, meaning be the best NickEdge779 you can be in all areas of your life, if you're not spiritual therein lies a large problem but that's another thread. We, this culture is deeply entrenched in lust.  It's normal to fuck after a 1st date in many circles. Do you know how fucked up that is?  What is there to cherish about slut or a whore that is not shameful? Yet, you men are so entrenched in lust via social programming ie porn, which has crept into reality and certain things are now expected and we have "evolved" and are now more "free". This is a lie. We have fallen morally and are enslaved with lust. So much we let women control the situation. If tomorrow all men took a stand and stated from this day forward, the following will take place. All irrational behavior will be checked verbally but fairly. Pay for your own everything until further notice, open your own doors, pickle jars etc...you get the point. Meanwhile, you go to the gym, finish that degree or school, do those projects you always wanted to do. Put the porn away forever and use that wasted energy towards something positive. They would come around trust me. You have to assert your authority as a man and not be a slave to pussy.  When you do this, women fall in place.  It's not something seen often because it's been bred out of society.Its not about being an asshole or a dick.  It's about not tolerating disrespect...When you have that aura and the brains and mouthpiece behind it, shit gets done and people fall in place.  It has to be done respectfully.You can't worry about everyone else, worry about you.  You attract what you put out.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on December 12, 2015, 03:54:59 PM
Patrice O'Neal is a legend. I know all this guy's material forward and backwards. RIP.

Talented dude. Loved the fact that he called out the industry and didn't sell out completely...
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: drkaje on December 12, 2015, 03:56:43 PM
Porn isn't the problem.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Wiggs on December 12, 2015, 04:02:04 PM
Gentlemen, if you are "Godless" and are going after women that are "Godless".  Don't be angry when she does behave like a Godfearing woman. 
You have to have a base.  The best base there has always been, is a belief and fear of The Most High or "God". If you have a base in this and follow and believe in the Bible, you will attract a woman who believes and will fall in place. 

When you don't, the only thing you can expect of her is what her heart desires and what society has implanted in her head. Good luck with that. America is a prime example of what happens when you allow this. It will never end and the result will never change if there is no base or a good base.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Wiggs on December 12, 2015, 04:05:20 PM
Porn isn't the problem.

It's part of it for young men, yes. It does more damage than you think. It does damage on a spiritual level. It saps your motivation and make you content.  Your social skills suffer etc.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Sumpa on December 12, 2015, 04:27:36 PM
I agree with this.  The worst mistake I ever made in my life was partnering with a single Mum.  My greatest regret.  I have learned to be happy living alone.  I learned to like myself and my own company.  I still spend time with women, but at my age feel put off by many of them.  I just see how wretched they are and how deeply conflicted and tormented they are, many of them have lost their true selves or never known their true selves.  Many are unlikely to reach a state of self actualization or even develop the most basic of insights into their personalities. 

Most women refuse to develop character so place all their stock in the market value of their vagina.  This is why they end up so tormented and bitter at middle age, their vagina is no longer considered valuable and they haven't developed any other desirable personality traits.  A sad spectacle indeed.

Spot on!
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Wiggs on December 12, 2015, 04:31:55 PM
I agree with this.  The worst mistake I ever made in my life was partnering with a single Mum.  My greatest regret.  I have learned to be happy living alone.  I learned to like myself and my own company.  I still spend time with women, but at my age feel put off by many of them.  I just see how wretched they are and how deeply conflicted and tormented they are, many of them have lost their true selves or never known their true selves.  Many are unlikely to reach a state of self actualization or even develop the most basic of insights into their personalities.  

Most women refuse to develop character so place all their stock in the market value of their vagina.  This is why they end up so tormented and bitter at middle age, their vagina is no longer considered valuable and they haven't developed any other desirable personality traits.  A sad spectacle indeed.

Most of this, very good post.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: drkaje on December 12, 2015, 04:32:12 PM
It's part of it for young men, yes. It does more damage than you think. It does damage on a spiritual level. It saps your motivation and make you content.  Your social skills suffer etc.

It's our own weakness that's the problem. If not porn, it would be something else.  Someone unable to delineate between porn and real life is stupid.

Porn can give people unrealistic expectations about sex and relationships... so can Cosmo, I love Lucy, or anything else. Someone hoping to model their life after The Donna Reed Show is just addicted to nostalgia and what television sold people on as relationship roles during that era.

Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Fortress on December 12, 2015, 04:35:11 PM
LOL @ at believing in some random fairy tale sky god will render a female a better mate.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Wiggs on December 12, 2015, 04:36:17 PM
It's our own weakness that's the problem. If not porn, it would be something else.  Someone unable to delineate between porn and real life is stupid.

Porn can give people unrealistic expectations about sex and relationships... so can Cosmo, I love Lucy, or anything else. Someone hoping to model their life after The Donna Reed Show is just addicted to nostalgia and what television sold people on as relationship roles during that era.



It's not weakness, it's greedy scum exploiting human nature for profit. Regardless, the damage is done and porn has been a major cause.  There's nothing of any redeeming value in regards to porn.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Wiggs on December 12, 2015, 04:37:20 PM
LOL @ at believing in some random fairy tale sky god will render a female a better mate.

You are a fool. Fooltress.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 12, 2015, 04:38:41 PM
U don't know shit about a happy, fulfilled life

(http://naturallydowntoearth.com/wp-content/uploads/bigstock-Happy-Family-7232451.jpg)

You're a boring brainwashed sheep who doesn't know jack shit. The OP is way more in touch with reality than you...
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Fortress on December 12, 2015, 04:41:40 PM
You are a fool. Fooltress.

When's your next prayer session?
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: drkaje on December 12, 2015, 04:42:57 PM
It's not weakness, it's greedy scum exploiting human nature for profit. Regardless, the damage is done and porn has been a major cause.  There's nothing of any redeeming value in regards to porn.

What was man's excuse before porn and the internet?
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Wiggs on December 12, 2015, 04:44:11 PM
What was man's excuse before porn and the internet?

excuse for what?
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: drkaje on December 12, 2015, 04:48:31 PM
excuse for what?

Failures of character.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: da_vinci on December 12, 2015, 04:58:27 PM
I agree with this.  The worst mistake I ever made in my life was partnering with a single Mum.  My greatest regret.  I have learned to be happy living alone.  I learned to like myself and my own company.  I still spend time with women, but at my age feel put off by many of them.  I just see how wretched they are and how deeply conflicted and tormented they are, many of them have lost their true selves or never known their true selves.  Many are unlikely to reach a state of self actualization or even develop the most basic of insights into their personalities.  

Most women refuse to develop character so place all their stock in the market value of their vagina.  This is why they end up so tormented and bitter at middle age, their vagina is no longer considered valuable and they haven't developed any other desirable personality traits.  A sad spectacle indeed.

Amazing post, so fukkin well put. Many... most of the females end up like that. I personally find it VERY difficult to like a female for a long time just because most of them are way beyond my intelligence (not just my, but generally stupid. some are so stupid it makes me feel sick) and I just stop respecting them after I'm tired of fucking the same pussy. It's like reading the same book for a 99th time, while expecting at least a few more chapters, but no.. it's a finished book and it's usualy far from Dostojevski or even fukkin Mark Twain.

I'm personally not against marriage, I mean... it just doesn't bother me, I live my own life, I know it exists, I simply don't pay any attention to that. I like to discuss this sometimes because I see how some people are concerned about it, it baffles me tbh. I'm very happy with my life as it is, maybe, some day, who knows, but why the hell is this an "issue" for some is beyond me. Maybe they want kids a lot or can't be alone for a prolonged time. I personally love to spend time with myself. If not working out and social activities that I enjoy - I'd gladly spend most of my time locked inside my apartment with books and internet (not for porn) or traveling (alone). Life is good.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Fortress on December 12, 2015, 05:14:04 PM
I once lived with an ex. Hated it. Didn't matter how much I "loved" her. My existence is just so much more enjoyable when my place of sanctuary, that is, my home, is barren of another human. It's like a clubhouse built only for me.

No matter how much we care for another, he/she will eventually begin to grate on our nerves. And once this starts, there's no stopping it. And the contempt then starts to fester.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: da_vinci on December 12, 2015, 05:17:31 PM
I once lived with an ex. Hated it. Didn't matter how much I "loved" her. My existence is just so much more enjoyable when my place of sanctuary, that is, my home, is barren of another human. It's like my clubhouse built only for me.

No matter how much we care for another, he/she will eventually begin to grate on your nerves. And once this starts, there's no stopping it. And the contempt then starts to fester.

Yess. I love comming back to my place after a busy day or after a fun day/night and contemplate in a silence, complete silence, or maybe some good music, with a glass of red wine. Good lord a man doesn't need much, just learn to appreciate it.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Irongrip400 on December 12, 2015, 05:23:26 PM
Getting into a serious relationship with the modern first world american woman.  Especially if she has kids.  This is a pitfall that will bankrupt you, age you, make you fat, grey/bald and leave you horny most nights.  My advice is to work on yourself and your career.  Dating is great, but don't fool yourself because everything will always funnel back to a big house, cars, kids and a boring ass life.  Women always come and go and if you need companionship for whatever reason then seek it out, however just don't let it go any further than dating.  When she presents you with the ultimatum, give her her walking papers.  And if you must, order up a hooker every now and then.  Be well.

OP sounds like a bitter queen who's pissed he's on retail duty in the holiday season. Fuck off loser. Be a real man and take care of your business and you'll be fine. Worst investment to make is a fucking boat.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Radical Plato on December 12, 2015, 05:24:37 PM
I once lived with an ex. Hated it. Didn't matter how much I "loved" her. My existence is just so much more enjoyable when my place of sanctuary, that is, my home, is barren of another human. It's like a clubhouse built only for me.

No matter how much we care for another, he/she will eventually begin to grate on our nerves. And once this starts, there's no stopping it. And the contempt then starts to fester.
Well put, I used to think it was a negative that I desired my own little sanctuary, or clubhouse as you put it.  But I discovered this is the best way for me to remain centred and balanced in this chaotic world.  Knowing I have an environment of my own creation that I feel comfortable within that I can return to after any stressful event that occurs away from that environment is a very comforting experience.

I think a mistake almost all woman make is to treat the coupled home as their own home and create a womans environment, rather than allocating a man his fair share of the environment to make his own.  Eventually the man tires of what he sees as a woman taking over the environment and seeks refuge somewhere or someplace else, preferably an environment more suited to his own needs.  

I often wonder if this is because men have put woman's pussy on a pedestal and have overcompensated when it comes to currying favour of women at the expense of his own needs (beyond the sexual).  As a result a man places his sexual needs far and above all his other needs but to his own detriment (in the long run).  Women also pick up on this and use it against him, almost to the opposite extreme, where the woman completely ignores her sexual needs (so as to manipulate the man) while getting most of her other needs met (like controlling the home environment)
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Irongrip400 on December 12, 2015, 05:34:01 PM
Let me introduce you to a man named Patrice O'Neal.
Listen carefully.


Where da black women in dis shit?
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: lilhawk1 on December 12, 2015, 05:56:47 PM
I agree with this.  The worst mistake I ever made in my life was partnering with a single Mum.  My greatest regret.  I have learned to be happy living alone.  I learned to like myself and my own company.  I still spend time with women, but at my age feel put off by many of them.  I just see how wretched they are and how deeply conflicted and tormented they are, many of them have lost their true selves or never known their true selves.  Many are unlikely to reach a state of self actualization or even develop the most basic of insights into their personalities. 

Most women refuse to develop character so place all their stock in the market value of their vagina.  This is why they end up so tormented and bitter at middle age, their vagina is no longer considered valuable and they haven't developed any other desirable personality traits.  A sad spectacle indeed.

Good post, as I made the same mistake by living with a single mom for 6 years.  It almost never works.  Even our therapist said the hardest thing a couple can do is have a step family.  Been almost a year since it ended, finally getting comfortable being single.  No kids of my own, and will never date a single mom again.  Like you said, the best thing a man can do is become completely comfortable being single and living alone.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Radical Plato on December 12, 2015, 06:02:48 PM
Good post, as I made the same mistake by living with a single mom for 6 years.  It almost never works.  Even our therapist said the hardest thing a couple can do is have a step family.  Been almost a year since it ended, finally getting comfortable being single.  No kids of my own, and will never date a single mom again.  Like you said, the best thing a man can do is become completely comfortable being single and living alone.
I think this is true for anybody, men and woman.  If you are comfortable in your own skin you can CHOOSE who you enter into relationships with, rather than doing it out of desperation or a sense of neediness. And considering the majority of relationships do actually end, you will fare better if you can tolerate yourself if your partner leaves you or you choose to leave them.   This doesn't mean you escape the grieving process associated with loss, but just that you know you will be OK and that everyone experiences relationship difficulties and loss and everything is constantly in flux anyway.  The good follows the bad and vice versa, and that it is OK to struggle with the ups and downs of life on your own.

This doesn't mean that I am closed off to relationships, on the contrary, I just want a certain kind of relationship, and just that I would choose being alone as opposed to being in an unsuitable relationship.  Dysfunctional relationships are more stressful than being by yourself IMO.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: drkaje on December 12, 2015, 06:06:42 PM
OP sounds like a bitter queen who's pissed he's on retail duty in the holiday season. Fuck off loser. Be a real man and take care of your business and you'll be fine. Worst investment to make is a fucking boat.

I've never seen that proven untrue, LOL!
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Tennisballz on December 12, 2015, 06:43:02 PM
Wrong. Women control the pussy.  Men control the money and the dick.  If you make yourself irresistible, meaning be the best NickEdge779 you can be in all areas of your life, if you're not spiritual therein lies a large problem but that's another thread. We, this culture is deeply entrenched in lust.  It's normal to fuck after a 1st date in many circles. Do you know how fucked up that is?  What is there to cherish about slut or a whore that is not shameful? Yet, you men are so entrenched in lust via social programming ie porn, which has crept into reality and certain things are now expected and we have "evolved" and are now more "free". This is a lie. We have fallen morally and are enslaved with lust. So much we let women control the situation. If tomorrow all men took a stand and stated from this day forward, the following will take place. All irrational behavior will be checked verbally but fairly. Pay for your own everything until further notice, open your own doors, pickle jars etc...you get the point. Meanwhile, you go to the gym, finish that degree or school, do those projects you always wanted to do. Put the porn away forever and use that wasted energy towards something positive. They would come around trust me. You have to assert your authority as a man and not be a slave to pussy.  When you do this, women fall in place.  It's not something seen often because it's been bred out of society.Its not about being an asshole or a dick.  It's about not tolerating disrespect...When you have that aura and the brains and mouthpiece behind it, shit gets done and people fall in place.  It has to be done respectfully.You can't worry about everyone else, worry about you.  You attract what you put out.
I pretty much have to agree with most of this.  We should worry about improving ourselves.  Put the porn down and quit putting the pussy on a pedestal.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: _aj_ on December 12, 2015, 06:44:03 PM
Most men want the 1950's marriage dynamic, most women don't. Therefore it will never happen.

It's pretty much what I have and it's great. Of course, you need to make decent $$$ and pick the right woman.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Tennisballz on December 12, 2015, 06:52:08 PM
OP sounds like a bitter queen who's pissed he's on retail duty in the holiday season. Fuck off loser. Be a real man and take care of your business and you'll be fine. Worst investment to make is a fucking boat.
"irongriponmenscocks400", it sounds as though you are currently living the hell I figured out how to avoid long ago.  Am I right?  Or perhaps you got burned big time by some broad along the way and are still paying for it?  I figured out the game a long time ago and I'm merely passing on what I know to the less fortunate such as yourself.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: lilhawk1 on December 12, 2015, 06:53:29 PM
I think this is true for anybody, men and woman.  If you are comfortable in your own skin you can CHOOSE who you enter into relationships with, rather than doing it out of desperation or a sense of neediness. And considering the majority of relationships do actually end, you will fare better if you can tolerate yourself if your partner leaves you or you choose to leave them.   This doesn't mean you escape the grieving process associated with loss, but just that you know you will be OK and that everyone experiences relationship difficulties and loss and everything is constantly in flux anyway.  The good follows the bad and vice versa, and that it is OK to struggle with the ups and downs of life on your own.

This doesn't mean that I am closed off to relationships, on the contrary, I just want a certain kind of relationship, and just that I would choose being alone as opposed to being in an unsuitable relationship.  Dysfunctional relationships are more stressful than being by yourself IMO.

Agree totally with what you say.  A lot of people, both men and women, enter into relationships because they're tired of being alone, or hop from one relationship to another without healing rom the previous one.  This is part of the reason why so many people are in relationships and miserable.  Nothing  worse than being in a relationship and feeling alone.  I'm not against marriage or relationships, just want the right person, otherwise there is no point in entering the relationship.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Tennisballz on December 12, 2015, 06:55:06 PM
I agree with this.  The worst mistake I ever made in my life was partnering with a single Mum.  My greatest regret.  I have learned to be happy living alone.  I learned to like myself and my own company.  I still spend time with women, but at my age feel put off by many of them.  I just see how wretched they are and how deeply conflicted and tormented they are, many of them have lost their true selves or never known their true selves.  Many are unlikely to reach a state of self actualization or even develop the most basic of insights into their personalities. 

Most women refuse to develop character so place all their stock in the market value of their vagina.  This is why they end up so tormented and bitter at middle age, their vagina is no longer considered valuable and they haven't developed any other desirable personality traits.  A sad spectacle indeed.
This is so unbelievable accurate.  All you have to do is browse through dating sites and see for yourself.  A womans stock drops rather dramatically after 35 or so and it's funny to see the desperation in them.  They are totally empty inside.  They have been chased and provided for for so long, they don't know any better.  
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Radical Plato on December 12, 2015, 06:55:14 PM
Wrong. Women control the pussy.  Men control the money and the dick.  If you make yourself irresistible, meaning be the best NickEdge779 you can be in all areas of your life, if you're not spiritual therein lies a large problem but that's another thread. We, this culture is deeply entrenched in lust.  It's normal to fuck after a 1st date in many circles. Do you know how fucked up that is?  What is there to cherish about slut or a whore that is not shameful? Yet, you men are so entrenched in lust via social programming ie porn, which has crept into reality and certain things are now expected and we have "evolved" and are now more "free". This is a lie. We have fallen morally and are enslaved with lust. So much we let women control the situation. If tomorrow all men took a stand and stated from this day forward, the following will take place. All irrational behavior will be checked verbally but fairly. Pay for your own everything until further notice, open your own doors, pickle jars etc...you get the point. Meanwhile, you go to the gym, finish that degree or school, do those projects you always wanted to do. Put the porn away forever and use that wasted energy towards something positive. They would come around trust me. You have to assert your authority as a man and not be a slave to pussy.  When you do this, women fall in place.  It's not something seen often because it's been bred out of society.Its not about being an asshole or a dick.  It's about not tolerating disrespect...When you have that aura and the brains and mouthpiece behind it, shit gets done and people fall in place.  It has to be done respectfully.You can't worry about everyone else, worry about you.  You attract what you put out.
While I agree with some of this, I think men can use Porn to prevent themselves being controlled by a womans pussy.  It gives him some control over his own libido so he doesn't have to worship at the altar of his wife's/girlfriends pussy.  The other issue is women become addicted to controlling a man's libido, so even if you man up, sublimate your libido into constructive alpha endeavours, still many women can't handle such a man who will do this and also stand up to them, so they simply trade you in after a while for a man they can dominate who will do anything for her just for the occasional whiff of her pussy..
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: gib on December 12, 2015, 07:14:46 PM
Also the single best investment you can ever make if you pick the right chick and have beautiful kids.

Nothing in the world could be better, but you have to make the right choices and this is where many guys fuck up ...
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Radical Plato on December 12, 2015, 07:17:47 PM
Also the single best investment you can ever make if you pick the right chick and have beautiful kids.

Nothing in the world could be better, but you have to make the right choices and this is where many guys fuck up ...
This is true also, the issue is though that a mans libido as a young man is out of control and he makes poor decisions when choosing a mate simply because he is soooooooooooo horny.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: hardgainerj on December 12, 2015, 07:26:46 PM
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Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: da_vinci on December 13, 2015, 05:09:12 AM
While I agree with some of this, I think men can use Porn to prevent themselves being controlled by a womans pussy.  It gives him some control over his own libido so he doesn't have to worship at the altar of his wife's/girlfriends pussy.  The other issue is women become addicted to controlling a man's libido, so even if you man up, sublimate your libido into constructive alpha endeavours, still many women can't handle such a man who will do this and also stand up to them, so they simply trade you in after a while for a man they can dominate who will do anything for her just for the occasional whiff of her pussy..

You are on the roll sir lol. Well done.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: drkaje on December 13, 2015, 05:16:07 AM
Also the single best investment you can ever make if you pick the right chick and have beautiful kids.

Nothing in the world could be better, but you have to make the right choices and this is where many guys fuck up ...

You're better off with smart kids.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Parker on December 13, 2015, 05:45:57 AM
The best one could do is stay always form american women, they are the worst. Lean towards European, arab and even indian women. You're looking for the traditional values and the woman should actually want to do something for the man.
Those types of women don't respect a man whose own women don't respect them. Think about it. And it goes for American women who do the same. They play the role, but it shows lack of control, respect, etc.

Just to clarify, let's not go overboard and be like this:
http://www.adultswim.com/videos/black-dynamite/dig-it-while-you-can/  (http://www.adultswim.com/videos/black-dynamite/dig-it-while-you-can/)
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: drkaje on December 13, 2015, 07:53:17 AM
@ Parker,

That show is freaking awesome!
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: f450 on December 13, 2015, 07:57:45 AM
While I agree with some of this, I think men can use Porn to prevent themselves being controlled by a womans pussy.  It gives him some control over his own libido so he doesn't have to worship at the altar of his wife's/girlfriends pussy.  The other issue is women become addicted to controlling a man's libido, so even if you man up, sublimate your libido into constructive alpha endeavours, still many women can't handle such a man who will do this and also stand up to them, so they simply trade you in after a while for a man they can dominate who will do anything for her just for the occasional whiff of her pussy..

All true. About Porn. I totally agree, only a fool will say that porn is just plain bad for you. Thats like saying wine is bad for you or meat is bad for you or cheese is bad for you or nuts are bad for you... Everything in moderation and you'll be just fine. Drink too much water and you will die. Does that mean water is bad for you? Use porn to clear your head and depedestalize the average woman, then focus on self improvement.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 13, 2015, 08:26:39 AM
This is true also, the issue is though that a mans libido as a young man is out of control and he makes poor decisions when choosing a mate simply because he is soooooooooooo horny.

Nothing wrong with being horny as long as the man doesn't lose himself to a woman.  I've seen alphas change to betas practically overnight.  Then comes marriage, then kids, then divorce due to "irreconcilable differences".  Financial devastation is the end result.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: drkaje on December 13, 2015, 08:32:33 AM
All true. About Porn. I totally agree, only a fool will say that porn is just plain bad for you. Thats like saying wine is bad for you or meat is bad for you or cheese is bad for you or nuts are bad for you... Everything in moderation and you'll be just fine. Drink too much water and you will die. Does that mean water is bad for you? Use porn to clear your head and depedestalize the average woman, then focus on self improvement.

The problem is people are conditioned to define porn as nudity and sex. It's personal and could be anything that overstimulates an individual or adds to their irrationality. Could be The Bible, YouTube videos The Quran, Double Stuffed Oreos, animal causes, etc...
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: BIG ACH on December 13, 2015, 11:53:00 AM
Some of you guys are seriously a bunch woman fearing pussies!!

If you're all worried about a modern American woman taking all  your  fortune  ::) then don't be a pussy and ask for a prenup.  Or here is a thought, why not go find a woman that also brings a lot to the table, find a woman with a good education and a fat paying job maybe she'll be the one asking you for a prenup.


Seriously though, get your life in order and man up!  If you don't want to be in a relationship or a marriage then that's fine but don't be a pussy and then go blame women for it... Man up and ask for a prenup or actually find a woman of substance!
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Purge_WTF on December 13, 2015, 12:02:07 PM
A movement needs to be created to reinstate the original family and the pecking order.

 Those days are pretty much gone for good, I'm afraid. I feel like Sheriff Bell from No Country... as time goes on.

 With regards to the OP, courting any Western woman is a gamble now, no matter her status.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 13, 2015, 12:07:26 PM
Some of you guys are seriously a bunch woman fearing pussies!!

If you're all worried about a modern American woman taking all  your  fortune  ::) then don't be a pussy and ask for a prenup.  Or here is a thought, why not go find a woman that also brings a lot to the table, find a woman with a good education and a fat paying job maybe she'll be the one asking you for a prenup.


Seriously though, get your life in order and man up!  If you don't want to be in a relationship or a marriage then that's fine but don't be a pussy and then go blame women for it... Man up and ask for a prenup or actually find a woman of substance!

The problem is that most women have different priorities/wish lists, esp on the long run. They're free to do so, so I won't blame them, but it's fucking frustrating :-\
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: BIG ACH on December 13, 2015, 12:09:04 PM
The problem is that most women have different priorities/wish lists, esp on the long run. They're free to do so, so I won't blame them, but it's fucking frustrating :-\

Please elaborate
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 13, 2015, 12:12:48 PM
Please elaborate

Most women: marriage, kids, pretty dependent and all kinds of social gatherings
Me: LAT, child free, independent women & doing my own things
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: BIG ACH on December 13, 2015, 12:14:54 PM
Most women: marriage, kids & pretty dependent
Me: LAT, child free & independent women

And you are saying you cannot find a single woman that fits your criteria?  not 1?  not 1 in this entire country? :)
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 13, 2015, 12:17:26 PM
And you are saying you cannot find a single woman that fits your criteria?  not 1?  not 1 in this entire country? :)

Would be a different story when I was still 20, but that's not the case, so it became a needle-haystack thing..
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: BIG ACH on December 13, 2015, 12:19:31 PM
Would be a different story when I was still 20, but that's not the case, so it became a needle-haystack thing..

And the problem is most certainly not you?  you fit their criteria perfectly? :)
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 13, 2015, 12:30:07 PM
And the problem is most certainly not you?  you fit their criteria perfectly? :)

LOL, I don't claim to be perfect and -again-, I realize that most women prefer the traditional stuff.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: muscularny on December 13, 2015, 01:25:00 PM
sad that the single guys here fail to realize that the married men posting are sitting next to their stinky wives. They are all miserable and fucked in. I thought the Ashley Madison scandal would have explain the situation well, almost every married male in the US under the age 45 had an account on that site.

Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: da_vinci on December 13, 2015, 01:32:19 PM
sad that the single guys here fail to realize that the married men posting are sitting next to their stinky wives. They are all miserable and fucked in. I thought the Ashley Madison scandal would have explain the situation well, almost every married male in the US under the age 45 had an account on that site.



Pretty much /thread
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Yamcha on December 13, 2015, 01:39:19 PM
IF you are going to marry, marry up.
That's my plan at least. Make my wife the bread winner. I'll be the trophy husband, Mr. GetBigger.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 13, 2015, 01:45:29 PM
IF you are going to marry, marry up.
That's my plan at least. Make my wife the bread winner. I'll be the trophy husband, Mr. GetBigger.

The (Dennis) Wolf route..
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Yamcha on December 13, 2015, 01:51:41 PM
The (Dennis) Wolf route..

Precisely

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Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: da_vinci on December 13, 2015, 02:00:38 PM
IF you are going to marry, marry up.
That's my plan at least. Make my wife the bread winner. I'll be the trophy husband, Mr. GetBigger.

Fun is fun, but my friend've got a millionaire gf (literally), has been with her for a few years already. Chick is a lil older and.. well... I would not be able to fuck her, honestly. Not even fat, just... overall not. He constantly fucks other chicks on the side, but is firmly set on the main one and does not want to change anything lol.. I can understand him, dude went through some tough shit and found a goldmine.

The downside - he gets drunk every time there's a chance. It's probably because they look better when drunk.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: flinstones1 on December 13, 2015, 02:08:32 PM
Some of you guys are seriously a bunch woman fearing pussies!!

If you're all worried about a modern American woman taking all  your  fortune  ::) then don't be a pussy and ask for a prenup.  Or here is a thought, why not go find a woman that also brings a lot to the table, find a woman with a good education and a fat paying job maybe she'll be the one asking you for a prenup.


Seriously though, get your life in order and man up!  If you don't want to be in a relationship or a marriage then that's fine but don't be a pussy and then go blame women for it... Man up and ask for a prenup or actually find a woman of substance!

Where are these single, hot women in their 30's with no kids? Oh wait I know a few, but they all have major baggage and psychological issues ;D

These guys are stating reality. Chicks are too busy riding  the cock carousal in their twenties instead of looking for a decent guy that they can have a life with. By the time they hit 30 they're past their prime, they're still looking for alpha male to knock them up. But they can't get an alpha to commit to them anymore, so they bitch and moan about men, only to settle for the first chump dumb enough  to  knock them up. They'll cheat on him and take all his money of course the moment they give him what she wants.

Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Azure on December 13, 2015, 02:26:27 PM
I know many that would say otherwise.

The main mistake I see men make is that they choose women who are looking to be rescued and have no plan except to find a man that will provide for them financially. These women are usually very submissive and will revolve their worlds around you and what you're doing. Men who are easily fooled will call it supportive. She will move heaven and earth to do whatever you want. It's all game though to get what she wants: financial security.  Don't t be surprised when you get bored because you realize she's boring, a nag because she has nothing else going on, and has nothing to offer that she takes you for everything you have

The alternative is to find a woman who has her own show to run. Some call her the alpha female but it's someone who has their own thing going. If she's into you, then trust me she'll redo her priorities but it's because she likes you not because she wants to be rescued

Where most men mess up is that they write these women off as bitches and difficult because they aren't a wallflower and roll over and die. It usually takes a confident and secure man to hold her attention.  This woman will be an asset to you and will have a large ROI because she will constantly be raising the bar.

Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: K1RB on December 13, 2015, 03:18:18 PM
Fuck being tied down to a woman, let alone one with a fucking kid, which is really just some other dudes mistake.
Every guy I know that's married is a miserable bastard-
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on December 13, 2015, 03:47:15 PM
Marriage is big money. Marriage runs the trillion dollar single family home market. Marriage is the key to the economy and then they have kids and add on another 20 years of wasteful spending to the economy.  As for fucking new bitches daily.  I have no tolerance for dipshit chicks. Can't stand their constant phone looking and Facebook posting.  It's a fucking cancer.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Lustral on December 13, 2015, 04:02:46 PM
Fuck being tied down to a woman, let alone one with a fucking kid, which is really just some other dudes mistake.
Every guy I know that's married is a miserable bastard-

Fuck being lonely and leaving no part of your dna on this planet.

If you cannot find a good woman, don't settle, but calling kids a waste? Annoying at times, expensive and don't respect hangover etiquette but ultimately worth it.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Irongrip400 on December 13, 2015, 04:15:21 PM
"irongriponmenscocks400", it sounds as though you are currently living the hell I figured out how to avoid long ago.  Am I right?  Or perhaps you got burned big time by some broad along the way and are still paying for it?  I figured out the game a long time ago and I'm merely passing on what I know to the less fortunate such as yourself.

No, because this:

It's pretty much what I have and it's great. Of course, you need to make decent $$$ and pick the right woman.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 13, 2015, 04:22:45 PM
No, because this:


Why not skip all the complicated shit and have a LAT relationship? Most marriages will fail anyway on the long run
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Irongrip400 on December 13, 2015, 04:37:31 PM
Why not skip all the complicated shit and have a LAT relationship? Most marriages will fail anyway on the long run

I don't know what LAT means. Help me out?
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 13, 2015, 04:44:54 PM
I don't know what LAT means. Help me out?

Living Apart Together :)
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Lustral on December 13, 2015, 04:58:40 PM
Living Apart Together :)

What is the benefit of that over being alone or sharing accommodation with another guy (who wont complain you are playing poker and on a bbing forum at 3am) and fucking random women?

I dunno, divorce is newer here (only legal since 1995) and my parents are married 43 years this month (yes im the youngest and probably an accident) but one sister is married 7 years, brother 10 years... it is normal to me that once married it means something and is taken seriously - in sickness and in health etc. Been with gf 6 years now, havent popped question, but it has been first relationship i have had that has survived as many ups and downs for both of us. Oh an i am a "single" father and have been through all the shit that entails including going to court so i have my eyes open to the shitty reality of a failed relationship.

I think some people are just dissing marriage cos they are embittered or think it is cool.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Fortress on December 13, 2015, 05:44:31 PM
The social gatherings most women constantly force their men into is a real killer.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Mr Anabolic on December 13, 2015, 06:16:51 PM
What is the benefit of that over being alone or sharing accommodation with another guy (who wont complain you are playing poker and on a bbing forum at 3am) and fucking random women?

I dunno, divorce is newer here (only legal since 1995) and my parents are married 43 years this month (yes im the youngest and probably an accident) but one sister is married 7 years, brother 10 years... it is normal to me that once married it means something and is taken seriously - in sickness and in health etc. Been with gf 6 years now, havent popped question, but it has been first relationship i have had that has survived as many ups and downs for both of us. Oh an i am a "single" father and have been through all the shit that entails including going to court so i have my eyes open to the shitty reality of a failed relationship.

I think some people are just dissing marriage cos they are embittered or think it is cool.

I "dis" it because I love my freedom and am able to save/spend my money anyway I please.  I cannot imagine what it's like to have to ask your wife permission to do this or that... that is slavery.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Radical Plato on December 13, 2015, 06:24:08 PM

I think some people are just dissing marriage cos they are embittered or think it is cool.
I don't think that is the case at all, they 'dis' marriage because statistically the majority of them fail. So it is natural to be embittered by an endeavour that promises happiness but ends in failure and misery.  The reality is, the majority of relationships fail, it is up to the individual to remain optimistic or not. Some just prefer to assess the situation realistically.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: twitchfibres on December 13, 2015, 06:29:21 PM
Marriage is big money. Marriage runs the trillion dollar single family home market. Marriage is the key to the economy and then they have kids and add on another 20 years of wasteful spending to the economy.  As for fucking new bitches daily.  I have no tolerance for dipshit chicks. Can't stand their constant phone looking and Facebook posting.  It's a fucking cancer.

Thank you
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: da_vinci on December 13, 2015, 06:34:43 PM
Fuck being lonely and leaving no part of your dna on this planet.

If you cannot find a good woman, don't settle, but calling kids a waste? Annoying at times, expensive and don't respect hangover etiquette but ultimately worth it.

You think you'll care whether you left "dna" like... three days after your death?

It is irrelevant... everything will be destroyed ultimately, either by humans, by nature or by sun burning out. Here you go.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Tha Grim Lifter on December 13, 2015, 06:35:00 PM
What is the benefit of that over being alone or sharing accommodation with another guy (who wont complain you are playing poker and on a bbing forum at 3am) and fucking random women?

I dunno, divorce is newer here (only legal since 1995) and my parents are married 43 years this month (yes im the youngest and probably an accident) but one sister is married 7 years, brother 10 years... it is normal to me that once married it means something and is taken seriously - in sickness and in health etc. Been with gf 6 years now, havent popped question, but it has been first relationship i have had that has survived as many ups and downs for both of us. Oh an i am a "single" father and have been through all the shit that entails including going to court so i have my eyes open to the shitty reality of a failed relationship.

I think some people are just dissing marriage cos they are embittered or think it is cool.

I've seen plenty of men get fucked over in divorce court. Women can get screwed around too, never really as bad but my cousin did. Even one of my best mates is only 36 and got fucked hard with her able to claim half his business despite her being on a large salary.

People are dissing marriage because when it ends guys get fucking screwed and left out to dry. It's too large of a risk unless you make no money and never will.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Lustral on December 13, 2015, 06:38:53 PM
I "dis" it because I love my freedom and am able to save/spend my money anyway I please.  I cannot imagine what it's like to have to ask your wife permission to do this or that... that is slavery.

I can spend my money however i want, it helps if it is not on hookers, but i smoke and drink despite what is best for me... of course gf would like of i didnt overdo them, same as i would, but im not hen pecked. She also works full time and takes pride in not needing outside help, almost to a fault.

If i want to go out, or do pretty much anything, i dont have to explain myself. Sure i get asked to go to bed if it is late and im arsing around but i would not call that slavery. It is 2.34am here, im up late cos have work to do... had food made for me so i dont have to waste time. I call that support and care, not slavery.

I realise how soppy i am sounding but the tone of some posts makes being in a relationship sound like supporting a dead body at sea that somehow nags you constantly and wont let you fuck it (no necro). Not all women are parasitic whores.

@leaving my dna why not just have nuclear war now and end all civilisation as it wont matter 1 second after we die. Legacy.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: da_vinci on December 13, 2015, 06:39:40 PM
I don't think that is the case at all, they 'dis' marriage because statistically the majority of them fail. So it is natural to be embittered by an endeavour that promises happiness but ends in failure and misery.  The reality is, the majority of relationships fail, it is up to the individual to remain optimistic or not. Some just prefer to assess the situation realistically.

This ^^, many times.

I can't wrap my head around it no matter how I look. It's pure programming, auto pilot mode for most ppl. Most of marriages fail, sooner or later (and that is a fact, sorry), yet people are still flying into it like butterflies into the fire. It is animalistic nature, nothing else, at work.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: twitchfibres on December 13, 2015, 06:40:49 PM
I can spend my money however i want, it helps if it is not on hookers, but i smoke and drink despite what is best for me... of course gf would like of i didnt overdo them, same as i would, but im not hen pecked. She also works full time and takes pride in not needing outside help, almost to a fault.

If i want to go out, or do pretty much anything, i dont have to explain myself. Sure i get asked to go to bed if it is late and im arsing around but i would not call that slavery. It is 2.34am here, im up late cos have work to do... had food made for me so i dont have to waste time. I call that support and care, not slavery.

I realise how soppy i am sounding but the tone of some posts makes being in a relationship sound like supporting a dead body at sea that somehow nags you constantly and wont let you fuck it (no necro). Not all women are parasitic whores.

@leaving my dna why not just have nuclear war now and end all civilisation as it wont matter 1 second after we die. Legacy.

You sound perfect for a single mom.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: da_vinci on December 13, 2015, 06:43:11 PM

@leaving my dna why not just have nuclear war now and end all civilisation as it wont matter 1 second after we die. Legacy.

That just doesn't make sense. Why do you care about "legacy"? I simply don't get it sorry. I personally couldn't care less about my "legacy", whatever that means. Only a short adventure here, nothing serious to write home about. I guess people care about that stuff when they take life very seriously. Well.. if it makes them feel more comfortable at this short stay here - why not..
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Lustral on December 13, 2015, 06:45:57 PM
That just doesn't make sense. Why do you care about "legacy"? I simply don't get it sorry. I personally couldn't care less about my "legacy", whatever that means. Only a short adventure here, nothing serious to write home about. I guess people care about that stuff when they take life very seriously. Well.. if it makes them feel more comfortable at this short stay here - why not..

I do not take life seriously and know i am wormfeed once i die. Maybe i just love myself so much i want to see more of me. Serious.

@ wanting a single mom way to dodge my point. Firstly i have a gf like i stated and she has no kids. Second, i have a kid so have experience. Care to try harder with argument why you can't get better than a hooker quality woman?
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: da_vinci on December 13, 2015, 06:48:24 PM
I do not take life seriously and know i am wormfeed once i die. Maybe i just love myself so much i want to see more of me. Serious.



Now that's what I can understand. It's animal nature manifesting in all of us, one way or another.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 14, 2015, 02:55:31 AM
What is the benefit of that over being alone or sharing accommodation with another guy (who wont complain you are playing poker and on a bbing forum at 3am) and fucking random women?

I dunno, divorce is newer here (only legal since 1995) and my parents are married 43 years this month (yes im the youngest and probably an accident) but one sister is married 7 years, brother 10 years... it is normal to me that once married it means something and is taken seriously - in sickness and in health etc. Been with gf 6 years now, havent popped question, but it has been first relationship i have had that has survived as many ups and downs for both of us. Oh an i am a "single" father and have been through all the shit that entails including going to court so i have my eyes open to the shitty reality of a failed relationship.

I think some people are just dissing marriage cos they are embittered or think it is cool.

Speaking of dissing, LOL at the first line :D But to give you a serious answer, it has nothing to do with 'benefits', but rather with the desire to keep a healthy together/apart balance.

I'm not dissing on marriage, but it doesn't match with my beliefs about relationships. Sure, there are still many happy couples together for ages, but they don't need to be married for this.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: BIG ACH on December 14, 2015, 09:54:19 AM
Speaking of dissing, LOL at the first line :D But to give you a serious answer, it has nothing to do with 'benefits', but rather with the desire to keep a healthy together/apart balance.

I'm not dissing on marriage, but it doesn't match with my beliefs about relationships. Sure, there are still many happy couples together for ages, but they don't need to be married for this.

And thats totally fine - most likely most women out there would not prefer things to be that way, but there are women out there that would accept that.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: BBSSchlemiel on December 14, 2015, 11:09:33 AM
Getting into a serious relationship with the modern first world american woman.  Especially if she has kids.  This is a pitfall that will bankrupt you, age you, make you fat, grey/bald and leave you horny most nights.  My advice is to work on yourself and your career.  Dating is great, but don't fool yourself because everything will always funnel back to a big house, cars, kids and a boring ass life.  Women always come and go and if you need companionship for whatever reason then seek it out, however just don't let it go any further than dating.  When she presents you with the ultimatum, give her her walking papers.  And if you must, order up a hooker every now and then.  Be well.

What if a man wants kids? Wouldn't it be worth it to find a decent woman to marry and have kids with? Not every modern American woman is into what you speak of. Many are, but my friends and family members, most of them found decent, plain Jane women that did not drive them nuts and they have stable families and good kids (with the exception of a few kids, because one can wind up with a "bad seed" regardless of raising).
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: DroppingPlates on December 14, 2015, 11:43:29 AM
And thats totally fine - most likely most women out there would not prefer things to be that way, but there are women out there that would accept that.

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Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: balzac on December 14, 2015, 11:47:09 AM
Most women refuse to develop character so place all their stock in the market value of their vagina.  This is why they end up so tormented and bitter at middle age, their vagina is no longer considered valuable and they haven't developed any other desirable personality traits.  A sad spectacle indeed.

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Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: balzac on December 14, 2015, 11:47:57 AM
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on December 14, 2015, 12:53:28 PM
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Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Fortress on December 14, 2015, 06:35:58 PM
My longest relationship went 10 years. At the tail end, we lived together. After a decade, the sex was a royal MEH (to be fair, I'm sure she'd state the same) and sharing a home was mostly annoying and inconvenient.

I cannot imagine the nightmare of plugging the same taco and living with that one person for several decades.

No matter how much of a friend she was, the endless intimate proximity would render me gravely desperate. 
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: _aj_ on January 10, 2016, 03:07:36 PM
Let me introduce you to a man named Patrice O'Neal.
Listen carefully.


Jesus Christ, my wife just pulled the exact shit that Patrice was yelling about in this video, I am thinking of making her sit listen to this. I said, "why did you just ask me my damn opinion when you already knew what you wanted to hear? Just lead with your opinion and ask me if that's ok, don't make me think and THEN announce what you want!"

Grrrrr.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: DroppingPlates on January 10, 2016, 03:32:32 PM
Jesus Christ, my wife just pulled the exact shit that Patrice was yelling about in this video, I am thinking of making her sit listen to this. I said, "why did you just ask me my damn opinion when you already knew what you wanted to hear? Just lead with your opinion and ask me if that's ok, don't make me think and THEN announce what you want!"

Grrrrr.

Bravo!
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: WalterWhite on January 10, 2016, 03:49:59 PM
Let me introduce you to a man named Patrice O'Neal.
Listen carefully.


Hard to concentrate in what they are saying for some reason. :P
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Palumboism on January 10, 2016, 04:40:03 PM
I just see how wretched they are and how deeply conflicted and tormented they are, many of them have lost their true selves or never known their true selves.  Many are unlikely to reach a state of self actualization or even develop the most basic of insights into their personalities.  

Most women refuse to develop character
so place all their stock in the market value of their vagina.  This is why they end up so tormented and bitter at middle age, their vagina is no longer considered valuable and they haven't developed any other desirable personality traits.  A sad spectacle indeed.


Plato, can you go into more detail about this?

Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: OB1 on January 10, 2016, 04:41:24 PM
Marriage

+1
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Andy Griffin on January 10, 2016, 04:44:38 PM
1. magic gas pills
2. karat bars
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on January 10, 2016, 04:48:28 PM
I have learned to be happy living alone.  I learned to like myself and my own company.  I still spend time with women, but at my age feel put off by many of them.  I just see how wretched they are and how deeply conflicted and tormented they are, many of them have lost their true selves or never known their true selves. 

Howard approved.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Man of Steel on January 10, 2016, 04:54:58 PM
Getting into a serious relationship with the modern first world american woman.  Especially if she has kids.  This is a pitfall that will bankrupt you, age you, make you fat, grey/bald and leave you horny most nights.  My advice is to work on yourself and your career.  Dating is great, but don't fool yourself because everything will always funnel back to a big house, cars, kids and a boring ass life.  Women always come and go and if you need companionship for whatever reason then seek it out, however just don't let it go any further than dating.  When she presents you with the ultimatum, give her her walking papers.  And if you must, order up a hooker every now and then.  Be well.

Eh "worst" to one is "best" to another.   I will always encourage anyone with this perspective to never EVER make children.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Radical Plato on January 10, 2016, 05:44:08 PM
I just see how wretched they are and how deeply conflicted and tormented they are, many of them have lost their true selves or never known their true selves.  Many are unlikely to reach a state of self actualization or even develop the most basic of insights into their personalities.  

Most women refuse to develop character so place all their stock in the market value of their vagina.  This is why they end up so tormented and bitter at middle age, their vagina is no longer considered valuable and they haven't developed any other desirable personality traits.  A sad spectacle

Plato, can you go into more detail about this?

Hmm, I have to think about this, I posted it a month or so ago.  I guess what I am getting at is that most women don't develop their personalities or character because they simply don't have to.  Men would fuck them if they were in a coma, so there is no need to develop traits that don't serve any function in attracting a potential mate.  This is why they focus so much on beauty, as this does serve a function in attracting the best mate.

I think the mistake many men make is expecting from women what they are incapable of giving.  Men expect women to be able to love them when by nature they aren't programmed that way.  They are programmed to be real live fuck dolls when younger that turn into child bearers and child rearers, that's about it.  I think the type of men who desire women who can love them are the ones who missed out on genuine Motherly love when they were younger.  Simply put, their Mothers didn't love them so they spend their entire lives trying to obtain that long lost love from the women in their lives.  

The other issue is women are told from a young age that they are princesses and the fairer sex and their turds are made of gold etc etc which goes against a woman's true nature, that of being a manipulative, abusive, sociopathic, destructive, drama-oriented pathological liar.  Depending on how much the woman has internalised the conditioned lie depends on how much she struggles later on, if a woman actually believes the princess fairytale and yet her reality is littered with eveidnce of what a cun+ she is, she will be the most tormented and the one that men should most avoid.  It sounds counter intuitive, but the women who realize what a depraved animal they truly are make a better option to pair with than the deluded princess I alluded too.  Either way, they both rely on their attractiveness to land a mate, so if they fail in the relationship game, by the time they lose their attractiveness (usually age 30 onwards), they have a tribe of kids, a rotten attitude and no personality or character to boot.  In other words, bad company.  And what is that old saying, no company is better than bad company.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Palumboism on January 10, 2016, 06:57:08 PM
Hmm, I have to think about this, I posted it a month or so ago.  I guess what I am getting at is that most women don't develop their personalities or character because they simply don't have to.  Men would fuck them if they were in a coma, so there is no need to develop traits that don't serve any function in attracting a potential mate.  This is why they focus so much on beauty, as this does serve a function in attracting the best mate.

Thanks, I appreciate your insight.  I've dated too many 30 year old princesses.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Lustral on January 10, 2016, 07:20:50 PM
Hmm, I have to think about this, I posted it a month or so ago.  I guess what I am getting at is that most women don't develop their personalities or character because they simply don't have to.  Men would fuck them if they were in a coma, so there is no need to develop traits that don't serve any function in attracting a potential mate.  This is why they focus so much on beauty, as this does serve a function in attracting the best mate.

I think the mistake many men make is expecting from women what they are incapable of giving.  Men expect women to be able to love them when by nature they aren't programmed that way.  They are programmed to be real live fuck dolls when younger that turn into child bearers and child rearers, that's about it.  I think the type of men who desire women who can love them are the ones who missed out on genuine Motherly love when they were younger.  Simply put, their Mothers didn't love them so they spend their entire lives trying to obtain that long lost love from the women in their lives.  

The other issue is women are told from a young age that they are princesses and the fairer sex and their turds are made of gold etc etc which goes against a woman's true nature, that of being a manipulative, abusive, sociopathic, destructive, drama-oriented pathological liar.  Depending on how much the woman has internalised the conditioned lie depends on how much she struggles later on, if a woman actually believes the princess fairytale and yet her reality is littered with eveidnce of what a cun+ she is, she will be the most tormented and the one that men should most avoid.  It sounds counter intuitive, but the women who realize what a depraved animal they truly are make a better option to pair with than the deluded princess I alluded too.  Either way, they both rely on their attractiveness to land a mate, so if they fail in the relationship game, by the time they lose their attractiveness (usually age 30 onwards), they have a tribe of kids, a rotten attitude and no personality or character to boot.  In other words, bad company.  And what is that old saying, no company is better than bad company.


whoa whoa whoa... women cannot love a man? I wil leave my current partner out of it, but I have broken up with 3 girls who stated that they loved me. It is messy and, call it obsession or love, it doesn't go away quickly like "meh that's over, what now". I will say scorn plays a part but they genuinely do love men fairly often and when that goes they get upset, just as you would if your partner (you loved/trusted) was fucking someone else or didn't want you.

The difference is men are called cheating pigs seeking money; women use children as pawns, and will threaten to fuck someone you hate if nasty whores. Both types of women you want to avoid but can never know unless you get in that situation.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Radical Plato on January 10, 2016, 07:25:18 PM
whoa whoa whoa... women cannot love a man? I wil leave my current partner out of it, but I have broken up with 3 girls who stated that they loved me. It is messy and, call it obsession or love, it doesn't go away quickly like "meh that's over, what now". I will say scorn plays a part but they genuinely do love men fairly often and when that goes they get upset, just as you would if your partner (you loved/trusted) was fucking someone else or didn't want you.

The difference is men are called cheating pigs seeking money; women use children as pawns, and will threaten to fuck someone you hate if nasty whores. Both types of women you want to avoid but can never know unless you get in that situation.
I loled.  When a woman says she loves a man, she is saying she loves what you do for her.  When a woman is upset when a relationship ends, it's not because she loves you, but that you no longer do anything for her.  You probably can't afford to believe it because you are in a relationship, but all women share the same traits, it's just a matter of degrees.  Your current woman will probably end up just like the other whores from your past who trampled your heart while fucking chad thundercock for revenge before she gets on the cock carousel again.  And trust me, it is better to think like this than invest deeply into her thinking you have found a unicorn.  Seeing a woman for what she really is will save you many tears later on.  Expect women to act like women and you will still be disappointed when they inevitably fuck you over, but at least you knew it was coming and can prepare for the fallout.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: OB1 on January 10, 2016, 11:29:53 PM
Well it's just marriage and McDoubles.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: TuHolmes on January 11, 2016, 12:23:59 AM
1. magic gas pills
2. karat bars


^^^^


 :D
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Fortress on January 11, 2016, 07:41:08 AM
Good insight in this thread. Thanks.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Tennisballz on January 11, 2016, 11:24:45 AM
Eh "worst" to one is "best" to another.   I will always encourage anyone with this perspective to never EVER make children.
While there are exceptions to the rule, which you may be, I'm giving real world advice that applies to most situations.  Also, other than creating a replacement for yourself, no one in the world should be having more children.  Popping out kids is one of the most unethical things humans can do this day in age.  One boy to replace the man and one girl to replace the woman.  No more beyond that.  But in the end I don't expect many to actually listen to my advice because most people are mindless drones that have been programmed to blindly go through life in order to fund the elite.  I may seem like a dick to you but I actually just care about the condition of the world and its inhabitants after I'm gone.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Fortress on January 11, 2016, 11:29:48 AM
While there are exceptions to the rule, which you may be, I'm giving real world advice that applies to most situations.  Also, other than creating a replacement for yourself, no one in the world should be having more children.  Popping out kids is one of the most unethical things humans can do this day in age.  One boy to replace the man and one girl to replace the woman.  No more beyond that.  But in the end I don't expect many to actually listen to my advice because most people are mindless drones that have been programmed to blindly go through life in order to fund the elite.  I may seem like a dick to you but I actually just care about the condition of the world and its inhabitants after I'm gone.

Spot-on.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: Radical Plato on January 11, 2016, 03:23:07 PM
While there are exceptions to the rule, which you may be, I'm giving real world advice that applies to most situations.  Also, other than creating a replacement for yourself, no one in the world should be having more children.  Popping out kids is one of the most unethical things humans can do this day in age.  One boy to replace the man and one girl to replace the woman.  No more beyond that.  But in the end I don't expect many to actually listen to my advice because most people are mindless drones that have been programmed to blindly go through life in order to fund the elite.  I may seem like a dick to you but I actually just care about the condition of the world and its inhabitants after I'm gone.
I used to care about the condition of the world and its inhabitants after I'm gone, but I don't give a fuck anymore.  I truly believe humanity is doomed.  And I agree,  most people are mindless drones that have been programmed to blindly go through life in order to fund the elite.  And always amazes me how the majority never even think of rebelling or finding away around being just another member of the herd clocking on and clocking off like mindless morons.
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: da_vinci on January 11, 2016, 03:57:47 PM
I used to care about the condition of the world and its inhabitants after I'm gone, but I don't give a fuck anymore.  I truly believe humanity is doomed.  And I agree,  most people are mindless drones that have been programmed to blindly go through life in order to fund the elite.  And always amazes me how the majority never even think of rebelling or finding away around being just another member of the herd clocking on and clocking off like mindless morons.

I guess it's survival of the fittest in action, simple as that. Some are stronger/smarter, others are... well... less smart and get fucked in the butt. Some philosopher have said - you'd be surprised how simple and narrow life is of most people you meet on the way. That is very true, to try discussing "life" with a regula joe is like trying to teach quantum physics a 5yo.
 
Title: Re: The worst investment a man can make.
Post by: thebrink on January 11, 2016, 07:35:11 PM


Fuck me. I just got my 3rd spine ripped out by a danger zoner with a kid. I've had many. I am truly a broken man.