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is it true paul was the only one in touch with reality while the rest were sexually aroused to the idea of war
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is it true paul was the only one in touch with reality while the rest were sexually aroused to the idea of war
No. Paul did well but helped Cruz more than he helped himself.
Jeb tried to take on Trump but lost.
From my highly subjective opinion both Trump and Cruz came out on top but not really domineering.
Boo to Hugh Hewitt for asking such a loaded and stupid question design to trap Ben Carson as either heartless or not having the moxie to fight the terrorist.
"Could you order airstrikes that would kill innocent children by not the scores, but the hundreds and thousands? Could you wage war as a commander in chief?"
Innocent people are always killed in war. No one goes through more trouble, often at their own peril, to minimize collateral damage than the U.S. As if any American President is comfortable with the fact that innocent people will die.
And the fact that Hewitt specified children knowing that Carson was a pediatric surgeon only added to the offense. Fortunately, the crowd caught on quick and roundly booed him.
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I enjoyed it........Bush was an asshole towards Trump........taking constant cheap shots.
I like Chris Christie........guy makes a lot of sense.
Flame on because I`m not really too into politics. ;)
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is it true paul was the only one in touch with reality while the rest were sexually aroused to the idea of war
pretty much. he shit all over trump. "Do you realize that killing women and children to punish bad guys gets us kicked out of geneva convention"?
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I enjoyed it........Bush was an asshole towards Trump........taking constant cheap shots.
I like Chris Christie........guy makes a lot of sense.
Flame on because I`m not really too into politics. ;)
Bush was obviously coached to attacked Trump. Trump has continually portrayed Bush as low energy and passive. Bush attempts at being an Alpha Male, especially when he intruded on Trump's time and said, "Yes, I'm talking!" like he was ready to kicked ass seemed so contrived.
Too bad, I had high hopes for Bush before any of this got going. He had everything going for him in terms of name recognition and initial support. He started at the head of the line but just doesn't seem to be able to hang on the biggest world stage.
Cruz and Rubio 2017! Get your bumper stickers ready.
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I enjoyed it........Bush was an asshole towards Trump........taking constant cheap shots.
I like Chris Christie........guy makes a lot of sense.
Flame on because I`m not really too into politics. ;)
I'm with you, kinda like the guy, too. Dig that the RINO thing pisses off all my extremist pals.
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Just a dog and pony show. Elections/politicians are a joke. Funny how so many of you get so riled up over this nonsense. Government is totally corrupt. Bankers own the world and the politicians. The masses do not have say in anything, they never did. It's all make believe. The powers that be already know who will be president.
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Just a dog and pony show. Elections/politicians are a joke. Funny how so many of you get so riled up over this nonsense. Government is totally corrupt. Bankers own the world and the politicians. The masses do not have say in anything, they never did. It's all make believe. The powers that be already know who will be president.
So I assume you don't bother to vote?
If so, please keep it that way.
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So I assume you don't bother to vote?
If so, please keep it that way.
lobbying>voting
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It was a bring a war to Iran session, Fiorina needs to step off the stage, has no business there. Jeb is a flaming homo. Rubio seems like a kid among men. Cruz's voice is so irritating. All are concerned about ISIS but don't give a fuck about local terrorism and gun violence.
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Paul makes the most sense, but I still like Trump. I was laughing when Jeb tried to go after Trump and it blew up in his face.
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Paul makes the most sense, but I still like Trump. I was laughing when Jeb tried to go after Trump and it blew up in his face.
Paul just kept talking about regime change and then when asked what he would do he just danced around the subject. When Trump said he wish more of the wasted money on war was spent on the country instead like schools and hospitals and Fiorina thought she was being smart by telling Trump that he sounds like Obama. I was like what? Seriously bitch. Is it a bad thing to spend money on your own citizens? She sounded like an overprivileged Kunt who gives zero fucks about regular people. As for Cruz, fuck him, he's in bed literally with Goldman Sachs. Ben Carson needs to lay off the weed. Dude looked like he wanted to sleep. Jeb is just lost on stage. Seems lost all the time.
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Bush was obviously coached to attacked Trump. Trump has continually portrayed Bush as low energy and passive. Bush attempts at being an Alpha Male, especially when he intruded on Trump's time and said, "Yes, I'm talking!" like he was ready to kicked ass seemed so contrived.
Too bad, I had high hopes for Bush before any of this got going. He had everything going for him in terms of name recognition and initial support. He started at the head of the line but just doesn't seem to be able to hang on the biggest world stage.
Cruz and Rubio 2017! Get your bumper stickers ready.
it's just like his daddy george bush one said read my lips..... when he was accused of being a wimp...
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Bunch of morons.
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Bunch of morons.
I agree with you here. No one on stage is President ready. Trump, Fiorina and Carson have no business being there. No one's first foray into politics should be becoming the President. We don't need another "learn on the job" type candidate.
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It was a bring a war to Iran session, Fiorina needs to step off the stage, has no business there. Jeb is a flaming homo. Rubio seems like a kid among men. Cruz's voice is so irritating. All are concerned about ISIS but don't give a fuck about local terrorism and gun violence.
And this is one of the problems with our country. The utter shallowness of the voters. Fiorina has no business being there, why?
Jeb is a homo. Rubio seems like a kid. Cruz voice is irritating. Not seeing the connection between ISIS and local terrorism.
All superficial criticism and no mention or critique on their actual positions and the answers to the questions.
Though many do not agree or support some or any of these candidates, people who make their living at this pretty much all agree on how articulate Fiorina is and how she made the leap to the big stage. Rubio, regardless of how young he looks, is considered the most knowledgeable, intelligent and quick thinking on his feet. Cruz, with his "irritating voice" is unanimously recognize as the most skilled debater on that stage. And it's no wonder, he was considered a legend in the debating circuit and described as having "Jedi Debate" skills. As described:
Ted Cruz was a king in Parliamentary Debate Land. And standing out in that crowd was not easy. Debate attracted swaths of wunderkinds who shared a geeky, cocky confidence; many of them came from a world of private high schools and rigorous speech teams. Nevertheless, says Raj Vinnakota — a Princeton debater who knew Cruz and who is now the CEO of the SEED Foundation in Washington, D.C. — when you had to face Cruz in debate, “you walked in assuming you would lose.”
But with people like you: so shallow, so uneducated, so unaware.... all the well established debating techniques and strategies Cruz employs (look up "running a kritik" and see if you can figure out when it was used) just sails over your head. All you notice is the sound of his voice.
And then there is the always annoying default criticism when you've run out of, or never had, anything of substance to say: "Jeb is a homo." Something that has never been commented on, suggested, implied or even joked about.
As I've said before "Diablo", you really have no clue to how colossally ignorant you are.
You really need to just shut up, read a book, and educate yourself.
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Just a dog and pony show. Elections/politicians are a joke. Funny how so many of you get so riled up over this nonsense. Government is totally corrupt. Bankers own the world and the politicians. The masses do not have say in anything, they never did. It's all make believe. The powers that be already know who will be president.
Spot on!
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And this is one of the problems with our country. The utter shallowness of the voters. Fiorina has no business being there, why?
Jeb is a homo. Rubio seems like a kid. Cruz voice is irritating. Not seeing the connection between ISIS and local terrorism.
All superficial criticism and no mention or critique on their actual positions and the answers to the questions.
Though many do not agree or support some or any of these candidates, people who make their living at this pretty much all agree on how articulate Fiorina is and how she made the leap to the big stage. Rubio, regardless of how young he looks, is considered the most knowledgeable, intelligent and quick thinking on his feet. Cruz, with his "irritating voice" is unanimously recognize as the most skilled debater on that stage. And it's no wonder, he was considered a legend in the debating circuit and described as having "Jedi Debate" skills. As described:
Ted Cruz was a king in Parliamentary Debate Land. And standing out in that crowd was not easy. Debate attracted swaths of wunderkinds who shared a geeky, cocky confidence; many of them came from a world of private high schools and rigorous speech teams. Nevertheless, says Raj Vinnakota — a Princeton debater who knew Cruz and who is now the CEO of the SEED Foundation in Washington, D.C. — when you had to face Cruz in debate, “you walked in assuming you would lose.”
But with people like you: so shallow, so uneducated, so unaware.... all the well established debating techniques and strategies Cruz employs (look up "running a kritik" and see if you can figure out when it was used) just sails over your head. All you notice is the sound of his voice.
And then there is the always annoying default criticism when you've run out of, or never had, anything of substance to say: "Jeb is a homo." Something that has never been commented on, suggested, implied or even joked about.
As I've said before "Diablo", you really have no clue to how colossally ignorant you are.
You really need to just shut up, read a book, and educate yourself.
Bunch of morons.
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Bunch of morons.
have you considered politics ta
you have some well thought out positions on the current issues affecting your country
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Bunch of morons.
Just make sure to cast your vote for Bernie Sanders.
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If Trump wins the nomination, who has the balls to be his running mate for VP? Would Mitt Romney take the job as VP under Trump?
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Bunch of morons.
;D
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And this is one of the problems with our country. The utter shallowness of the voters. Fiorina has no business being there, why?
Jeb is a homo. Rubio seems like a kid. Cruz voice is irritating. Not seeing the connection between ISIS and local terrorism.
All superficial criticism and no mention or critique on their actual positions and the answers to the questions.
Though many do not agree or support some or any of these candidates, people who make their living at this pretty much all agree on how articulate Fiorina is and how she made the leap to the big stage. Rubio, regardless of how young he looks, is considered the most knowledgeable, intelligent and quick thinking on his feet. Cruz, with his "irritating voice" is unanimously recognize as the most skilled debater on that stage. And it's no wonder, he was considered a legend in the debating circuit and described as having "Jedi Debate" skills. As described:
Ted Cruz was a king in Parliamentary Debate Land. And standing out in that crowd was not easy. Debate attracted swaths of wunderkinds who shared a geeky, cocky confidence; many of them came from a world of private high schools and rigorous speech teams. Nevertheless, says Raj Vinnakota — a Princeton debater who knew Cruz and who is now the CEO of the SEED Foundation in Washington, D.C. — when you had to face Cruz in debate, “you walked in assuming you would lose.”
But with people like you: so shallow, so uneducated, so unaware.... all the well established debating techniques and strategies Cruz employs (look up "running a kritik" and see if you can figure out when it was used) just sails over your head. All you notice is the sound of his voice.
And then there is the always annoying default criticism when you've run out of, or never had, anything of substance to say: "Jeb is a homo." Something that has never been commented on, suggested, implied or even joked about.
As I've said before "Diablo", you really have no clue to how colossally ignorant you are.
You really need to just shut up, read a book, and educate yourself.
if cruz wins he will be president of the united states of israel and goldman sachs will be a common wealth
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So I assume you don't bother to vote?
If so, please keep it that way.
Voting is for sheep. None of these politicians make anything better, only worse. Observe... be honest with yourself... learn.
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If Trump wins the nomination, who has the balls to be his running mate for VP? Would Mitt Romney take the job as VP under Trump?
Yes.
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Voting is for sheep. None of these politicians make anything better, only worse. Observe... be honest with yourself... learn.
Spot on.
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Voting is for sheep. None of these politicians make anything better, only worse. Observe... be honest with yourself... learn.
Of course, leaders don't matter. If Carter beat Reagan the Soviet Union would have still crumbled.
Just continue to assert your honest, learned, independence and stay as far away from the election booth as possible. And take as many like minded people with you.
Leave it to us sheep to decide for you.
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if cruz wins he will be president of the united states of israel and goldman sachs will be a common wealth
Who are you voting for?
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Of course, leaders don't matter. If Carter beat Reagan the Soviet Union would have still crumbled.
LOL true. but I doubt repubs on getbig's political board would agree.
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if cruz wins he will be president of the united states of israel and goldman sachs will be a common wealth
Yup.
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For every intellectual who spends all day debating the finer points of each candidates' arguments, twenty morons will base their vote on gutter-scraping advertisements.
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To want to be a politician should be classified as a mental disorder.
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Of course, leaders don't matter. If Carter beat Reagan the Soviet Union would have still crumbled.
Just continue to assert your honest, learned, independence and stay as far away from the election booth as possible. And take as many like minded people with you.
Leave it to us sheep to decided for you.
You think these politicians have your best interests at heart? lol Bankers own every one of them, including Carter, Reagan and Odumbo. JFK was the last 'real' president, that's why they shot him.
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For every intellectual who spends all day debating the finer points of each candidates' arguments, twenty morons will base their vote on gutter-scraping advertisements.
Only 20?... I'd say hundreds.
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You think these politicians have your best interests at heart? lol Bankers own every one of them, including Carter, Reagan and Odumbo. JFK was the last 'real' president, that's why they shot him.
Whose "they"? The bankers? They are the only group you mentioned that "owns" them. They killed JFK?
And how does "owning" presidents help them. They were forced to give loans to unqualified minorities which didn't actually help.
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pellius the recycled reganite dogmatic to the end
you need to get with the times man you're missing the tea party
pay attention to what's going on read the news download some new thoughts bro!
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pellius the recycled reganite dogmatic to the end
you need to get with the times man you're missing the tea party
pay attention to what's going on read the news download some new thoughts bro!
You're an anti-American Muslim. You don't count.
And I'm not your bro.
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To want to be a politician should be classified as a mental disorder.
Or grown men wanting to work with women or children.
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Based on all that I have seen thus far, I think Hillary has the best chance.
"1"
P.S. I am not a Hillary fan.
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You're an anti-American Muslim. You don't count.
And I'm not your bro.
PAY ATTENTION DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN"
this implies that America is no longer great.
did you miss the memo?
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PAY ATTENTION DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN"
this implies that America is no longer great.
did you miss the memo?
Which implies Obama ruined it.
Blame the bankers or other mystical "powers that be."
Still greater than any other country and still the world's leader.
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Which implies Obama ruined it.
Blame the bankers or other mystical "powers that be."
Still greater than any other country and still the world's leader.
you're the only one left who thinks this way
the reason is everyone else has come to their senses and has accepted the truth.
but that's ok just keep doing what you're doing and pray for the best.
what I mean by that is pray that trump will get elected and fix everything
....hahah but you're not nearly dumb enough to believe that
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you're the only one left who thinks this way
the reason is everyone else has come to their senses and has accepted the truth.
but that's ok just keep doing what you're doing and pray for the best.
what I mean by that is pray that trump will get elected and fix everything
....hahah but you're not nearly dumb enough to believe that
Excellent post. Spot on!!!
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you're the only one left who thinks this way
the reason is everyone else has come to their senses and has accepted the truth.
but that's ok just keep doing what you're doing and pray for the best.
what I mean by that is pray that trump will get elected and fix everything
....hahah but you're not nearly dumb enough to believe that
I'm the only one who believes Obama is a horrible president. That there are morons who believe elections are a sham and that the president has already been selected by the "powers that be" such as bankers as mentioned in this thread. Or that America is still the world's leader.
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I'm the only one who believes Obama is a horrible president. That there are morons who believe elections are a shame and that the president has already been selected by the "powers that be" such as bankers as mentioned in this thread. Or that America is still the world's leader.
you can believe whatever you want but its more convincing when you present evidence to support your position.
eg. Explain how it's possible to make America great again if it remains great?
???
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you can believe whatever you want but its more convincing when you present evidence to support your position.
eg. Explain how it's possible to make America great again if it remains great?
???
Just like the declining champion is still the champion, though America has declined precipitously under Obama it's still the world's leader. Who do you think is the world leader?
Your contempt for the United States is so palatable and betrays your Muslim roots.
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Democratic debate scheduled on a Saturday night when everyone is out shopping, going to parties and an NFL game all designed that no one watches Killary make an ass of herself since everytime she opens her mouth her ratings plummet.
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Just like the declining champion is still the champion, though America has declined precipitously under Obama it's still the world's leader. Who do you think is the world leader?
Your contempt for the United States is so palatable and betrays your Muslim roots.
all i see are claims...evidence man, do you have any?
it seems the champion lost the title long ago...that's the right analogy.
It's not possible to make something great again if it's already great.
the only way the statement makes sense is if the greatness is already lost. No way around it.
again please provide evidence to support your assertions!
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all i see are claims...evidence man, do you have any?
it seems the champion lost the title long ago...that's the right analogy.
It's not possible to make something great again if it's already great.
the only way the statement makes sense is if the greatness is already lost. No way around it.
again please provide evidence to support your assertions!
Evidence for what?
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Evidence for what?
do you know what a claim is?
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do you know what a claim is?
Yes and pellis' claims are valid. It's that common sense thing again.
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Democratic debate scheduled on a Saturday night when everyone is out shopping, going to parties and an NFL game all designed that no one watches Killary make an ass of herself since everytime she opens her mouth her ratings plummet.
yeah, I hear she's down to a scant 31% lead against sanders.
also approval polling at trump-like levels, right?
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Yes and pellis' claims are valid. It's that common sense thing again.
common sense again? NO!
you can't make something great again if it's already great.
that's nonsense and you know it.
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all i see are claims...evidence man, do you have any?
it seems the champion lost the title long ago...that's the right analogy.
It's not possible to make something great again if it's already great.
the only way the statement makes sense is if the greatness is already lost. No way around it.
again please provide evidence to support your assertions!
If you don't believe that America is the world leader then who is? You're from Canada, right? Is the world looking to Canada as to what to do with ISIS? How about the economic crisis in Greece? Who feeds more people in this world? When there is a catastrophe in this world, be it an earthquake, hurricane, flood.... who does the world look to?
Why is America blamed for not ending the genocide in Rwanda? Why is it automatically assumed that we are suppose to get involved. When any world leader on this planet is contemplating a foreign policy decision or involvement in other countries do they ask themselves, "What will Canada think of this? How will they respond?"
Do you believe that America should implement Sharia law?
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common sense again? NO!
you can't make some great again if it's already great.
that's nonsense and you know it.
There are gradations of greatness. Arnold was great in 1980 and was considered the best bber in the world by winning the Mr. O. Nobody believes he was as great as he was in 1974.
Do you believe that America should implement Sharia law?
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If you don't believe that America is the world leader then who is? You're from Canada, right? Is the world looking to Canada as to what to do with ISIS? How about the economic crisis in Greece? Who feeds more people in this world? When there is a catastrophe in this world, be it an earthquake, hurricane, flood.... who does the world look to?
Why is America blamed for not ending the genocide in Rwanda? Why is it automatically assumed that we are suppose to get involved. When any world leader on this planet is contemplating a foreign policy decision or involvement in other countries do they ask themselves, "What will Canada think of this? How will they respond?"
Do you believe that America should implement Sharia law?
I have not made any claims. You make a lot of unsupported statements.
Asking a bunch of questions doesn't help. It just confuses things.
Why don't you discuss America's annexation of Hawaii as an example of it's exceptionalism?
that's a relevant question!
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Yes and pellis' claims are valid. It's that common sense thing again.
I remember I chided you for saying that Obama was the worse president in our generation if not ever. We may have been only teens during the regrettable Carter administration but whether one followed politics are not we remember the gas lines, the lost of America stature throughout the world, economic anemia, the beginning and the roots of the current Islamic conflict and the general "malaise" in the country. Truly the worse president ever.
Until Obama.
I don't mind admitting that I was wrong but due to what is at stake, it is a painful and sad admission.
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I have not made any claims. You make a lot of unsupported statements.
Asking a bunch of questions doesn't help. It just confuses things.
Why don't you discuss America's annexation of Hawaii as an example of it's exceptionalism?
that's a relevant question!
No, I have not. Because you are too dim to realize the blinding clarity is not my fault.
How Hawaii became part of the United States has no relevance to this subject. What is there to discuss? Ask me anything you want about Hawaii.
What's interesting is how you avoid the question if you want America, in fact the whole world, to live under Sharia law. It's a question that you can't lie. If you are not a Muslim then you will just say no. If you are a Muslim then you can't say no.
Remember, there is someone on this board that has done a lot of research on you. Of course, he could be wrong. Why should I believe him. And you can easily prove him wrong.
If he is wrong.
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No, I have not. Because you are too dim to realize the blinding clarity is not my fault.
How Hawaii became part of the United States has no relevance to this subject. What is there to discuss? Ask me anything you want about Hawaii.
What's interesting is how you avoid the question if you want America, in fact the whole world, to live under Sharia law. It's a question that you can't lie. If you are not a Muslim then you will just say no. If you are a Muslim then you can't say no.
Remember, there is someone on this board that has done a lot of research on you. Of course, he could be wrong. Why should I believe him. And you can easily prove him wrong.
If he is wrong.
you give me your opinion on how great America was when it conquered Hawaii and i'll let you know my oh so very personal thoughts on Sharia law.
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you give me your opinion on how great America was when it conquered Hawaii and i'll let you know my oh so very personal thoughts on Sharia law.
Great nations conquer. It's not something unique to America. Not by a long shot. Weak nations get conquered. It's the way of the world.
Lesson is -- be strong. As long as America remains strong, the Muslims will lose. They will not conquer America. You can only push Americans so far before the sleeping giant is awaken.
Hawaii is way better off when it became a territory and then part of the United Sates.
That is my opinion.
Now do you believe that America should live under Sharia law?
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Trump will destroy what's left of the republican party when he gets pissed off
And goes independent after he is not chosen to go against Hillary...
Will have the first women president very soon ..
Bill will be the first husband.. ;D
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Great nations conquer. It's not something unique to America. Not by a long shot. Weak nations get conquered. It's the way of the world.
Lesson is -- be strong. As long as America remains strong, the Muslims will lose. They will not conquer America. You can only push Americans so far before the sleeping giant is awaken.
Hawaii is way better off when it became a territory and then part of the United Sates.
That is my opinion.
Now do you believe that America should live under Sharia law?
You just stated that America is not exceptional.
let me know what your final answer is on this.
Regarding sharia law
Honestly I don't know much about it. I generally support laws that protect freedoms, civil liberties and so on. I suspect that's not the case here but I'll look into it and provide a final answer once I get a final answer from you too. :D
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You just stated that America is not exceptional.
let me know what your final answer is on this.
Regarding sharia law
Honestly I don't know much about it. I generally support laws that protect freedoms, civil liberties and so on. I suspect that's not the case here but I'll look into it and provide a final answer once I get a final answer from you too. :D
"You just stated that America is not exceptional."
That one statement proves your bias and how you hear only what you want to hear. Because America has done things that other countries has done you immediately read that as me saying America is not exceptional.
No where do people have more opportunity than they have here in the U.S. We fought a war and loss more Americans than all the other wars combines to overturn the institution of slavery. What other country did that? It was in America that the idea that you are not stuck in your class and can rise above it based on your ambition and willingness to work hard and your leaders are not just born into their positions like with monarchies. Women's rights and their rights to vote took root here. Just like Civil rights and passing laws protecting minority rights. More people want to come here than any other country because of the opportunity and the concept of the American dream. Since this is a bodybuilding board, it was Arnold who said many times that he would never have been the success that he is if he didn't come to America. No one was willing or able to fight Communist expansionism as we did. It's such a tragedy that ingrates like you have no idea what kind of life you would have if it wasn't for America.
But your mind is already made up. You hate America. You blame it for all the ills of today. You claim that there isn't a "single thread of evidence" that America has done any good in this world. You cannot imagine what the world would be like if America never existed. Fascism, Nazism, Communism... take your pick.
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Trump will destroy what's left of the republican party when he gets pissed off
And goes independent after he is not chosen to go against Hillary...
Will have the first women president very soon ..
Bill will be the first husband.. ;D
OR OR OR
The party will "officially" accept the joke Trump's winning the nomination...
then everyone with $ will support JEB! as the 3rd party candidate. No rules, then... anything goes. Donors hating trump go all-out against Trump, hilary probably wins anyway.
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yeah, I hear she's down to a scant 31% lead against sanders.
also approval polling at trump-like levels, right?
Oh, you mean within her own party? lol
Let see, her platform is free shit, like Sanders. She's along the same lines as Obama...like all liberal candidates her consitituents are, college kids, poor inner city of most that are looking for more free shit and all you have to do is look at her record as Secretary of State to see she's just as incompetent as that shithead we have now execpt she's had more people killed...on purpose yet.
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"You just stated that America is not exceptional."
That one statement proves your bias and how you hear only what you want to hear. Because America has done things that other countries has done you immediately read that as me saying America is not exceptional.
No where do people have more opportunity than they have here in the U.S. We fought a war and loss more Americans than all the other wars combines to overturn the institution of slavery. What other country did that? It was in America that the idea that you are not stuck in your class and can rise above it based on your ambition and willingness to work hard and your leaders are not just born into their positions like with monarchies. Women's rights and their rights to vote took root here. Just like Civil rights and passing laws protecting minority rights. More people want to come here than any other country because of the opportunity and the concept of the American dream. Since this is a bodybuilding board, it was Arnold who said many times that he would never have been the success that he is if he didn't come to America. No one was willing or able to fight Communist expansionism as we did. It's such a tragedy that ingrates like you have no idea what kind of life you would have if it wasn't for America.
But your mind is already made up. You hate America. You blame it for all the ills of today. You claim that there isn't a "single thread of evidence" that America has done any good in this world. You cannot imagine what the world would be like if America never existed. Fascism, Nazism, Communism... take your pick.
SO you've accepted America's foreign policy is nothing unique. I'll assume that's your final answer.
very relieved to see this.
The other miscellaneous claims and questions about the greatness of domestic issues just confuse the discussion. Some things are correct some are not. It's easy to spew a bunch of claims but if you have some evidence then let's see it. eg. here's a report of economic freedom, the US ranks no.16 as of 2015.
According to the report, based on 2013 statistics (the most recent year of available data), the top 10 most economically free jurisdictions are Hong Kong, Singapore, New Zealand, Switzerland, United Arab Emirates, Mauritius, Jordan, Ireland, Canada, with the United Kingdom and Chile tied for 10th. The United States, once considered a bastion of economic freedom, now ranks 16th in the world after being as high as second in 2000. - See more at:
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/economic-freedom-of-the-world-2015-annual-report#sthash.Cfs1w3SI.dpuf
Regarding Sharia Law. It seems this is a more complex concept than I anticipated but if what's meant by that is a system like they have in Saudi Arabia then no I don't support that. Final answer.
Do you agree with the strong US military support of the Saudi Regime?
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SO you've accepted America's foreign policy is nothing unique. I'll assume that's your final answer.
very relieved to see this.
The other miscellaneous claims and questions about the greatness of domestic issues just confuse the discussion. Some things are correct some are not. It's easy to spew a bunch of claims but if you have some evidence then let's see it. eg. here's a report of economic freedom, the US ranks no.16 as of 2015.
According to the report, based on 2013 statistics (the most recent year of available data), the top 10 most economically free jurisdictions are Hong Kong, Singapore, New Zealand, Switzerland, United Arab Emirates, Mauritius, Jordan, Ireland, Canada, with the United Kingdom and Chile tied for 10th. The United States, once considered a bastion of economic freedom, now ranks 16th in the world after being as high as second in 2000. - See more at:
http://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/economic-freedom-of-the-world-2015-annual-report#sthash.Cfs1w3SI.dpuf
Regarding Sharia Law. It seems this is a more complex concept than I anticipated but if what's meant by that is a system like they have in Saudi Arabia then no I don't support that. Final answer.
Do you agree with the strong US military support of the Saudi Regime?
Again your bias is clearly evident. Your mind is already made up and, as you always do, you obfuscate the argument to suit your agenda.
I never mentioned economic freedom. I mentioned opportunity. America has been less economically free under Obama. But compared to America, few are rushing to Ireland, Chile or Jordan for a better life.
In regard to your question about Saudi Arabia -- No.
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Again your bias is clearly evident. Your mind is already made up and, as you always do, you obfuscate the argument to suit your agenda.
I never mentioned economic freedom. I mentioned opportunity. America has been less economically free under Obama. But compared to America, few are rushing to Ireland, Chile or Jordan for a better life.
In regard to your question about Saudi Arabia -- No.
I'm open to new information but you must bring the facts not just opinions and claims that have no support
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I'm open to new information but you must bring the facts not just opinions and claims that have no support
So far we're still the greatest country in the world but it's been diminished in the last 8 years and that's a fact. How about this. Why don't YOU tell us how much better off we are. And oh, provide facts.
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So far we're still the greatest country in the world but it's been diminished in the last 8 years 16 years and that's a fact. How about this. Why don't YOU tell us how much better off we are. And oh, provide facts.
Fixed.
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Fixed.
That's 100% BS and you know it.
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That's 100% BS and you know it.
No... That's actually correct.
Sorry you don't want to admit it, dude.
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Great post!!!
And this is one of the problems with our country. The utter shallowness of the voters. Fiorina has no business being there, why?
Jeb is a homo. Rubio seems like a kid. Cruz voice is irritating. Not seeing the connection between ISIS and local terrorism.
All superficial criticism and no mention or critique on their actual positions and the answers to the questions.
Though many do not agree or support some or any of these candidates, people who make their living at this pretty much all agree on how articulate Fiorina is and how she made the leap to the big stage. Rubio, regardless of how young he looks, is considered the most knowledgeable, intelligent and quick thinking on his feet. Cruz, with his "irritating voice" is unanimously recognize as the most skilled debater on that stage. And it's no wonder, he was considered a legend in the debating circuit and described as having "Jedi Debate" skills. As described:
Ted Cruz was a king in Parliamentary Debate Land. And standing out in that crowd was not easy. Debate attracted swaths of wunderkinds who shared a geeky, cocky confidence; many of them came from a world of private high schools and rigorous speech teams. Nevertheless, says Raj Vinnakota — a Princeton debater who knew Cruz and who is now the CEO of the SEED Foundation in Washington, D.C. — when you had to face Cruz in debate, “you walked in assuming you would lose.”
But with people like you: so shallow, so uneducated, so unaware.... all the well established debating techniques and strategies Cruz employs (look up "running a kritik" and see if you can figure out when it was used) just sails over your head. All you notice is the sound of his voice.
And then there is the always annoying default criticism when you've run out of, or never had, anything of substance to say: "Jeb is a homo." Something that has never been commented on, suggested, implied or even joked about.
As I've said before "Diablo", you really have no clue to how colossally ignorant you are.
You really need to just shut up, read a book, and educate yourself.
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So far we're still the greatest country in the world but it's been diminished in the last 8 years and that's a fact. How about this. Why don't YOU tell us how much better off we are. And oh, provide facts.
well the serious people accept that there's been little to no growth in wages for 40 years.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/09/for-most-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/
here's what an expert says about the bush years.
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So far we're still the greatest country in the world but it's been diminished in the last 8 years and that's a fact. How about this. Why don't YOU tell us how much better off we are. And oh, provide facts.
at least pelius responds to reasoned arguments, it's his ability to reason that's his achilles heel.
you on the other hand are completely impervious to such gestures, not good!
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well the serious people accept that there's been little to no growth in wages for 40 years.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/09/for-most-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/
here's what an expert says about the bush years.
I don't know about the growth of wages in the last 40 years but I do know the tremendous increase in quality of life in the last 40 years. I was there.
People today have no idea, no conception, no clue, as to how much better today, in regard to economic prosperity and lifestyle. This has nothing to do with whether or not we are better people or a better society but what a teenager has today compared to what I had as a teenager is not comparable. Just something like eating out. In my day, eating out was an event and a luxury. Our family got dressed up to go to Zippy's drive in for a plate lunch and we planned weeks in advance to go to McDonald's when one opened in our neighborhood to get their much touted Big Macs. I remember as we piled into the station wagon my neighborhood friends were telling each other that we were going out to get Big Macs. Seems like most people eat out practically everyday now.
And the idea of a parent buying their kid a car just was not even a consideration. The ambitious ones worked and got a jalopy that they worked on every weekend to keep it running. I see kids with their cell phones, lap tops, fashionable shoes and clothes. They seem to always have extra money for fancy haircuts, hair color, tattoos. I remember asking my friend what he got for his birthday and he said, "One shirt and one 'nother one." Not having to wear hand me downs and having your own shirt bought just for you was a bit of treat.
And to keep it bbing related no parent would pay for their kid to go to a gym. There were gyms and I save up all year so I could afford 3 months (the whole summer) to train at Mit's gym (Mit was Arnold's go to guy here in Hawaii and was part of his entourage at his wedding). It was an hour and a half bus ride and I was the only kid there. I remember Mit making fun of me for doing cable crossovers which suddenly became very popular because Pumping Iron was out at the time. He said that a skinny kid like me should stick to the bench and squats and if I ever got any muscle then I can go "finishing" exercises. He'd be sued today for hurting my feelings.
Now kids today have access to state of the art equipment which they use mostly to sit and watch TV or text on their cells. The rest of us saved up for a Sear's 110 lb barbell set and trained at home with a couple of buddies and actually used that one barbell we saved up for.
Economic prosperity is much greater today than decades past in virtually every aspect of life. Only the very rich 40 years ago had more than one car. Nowadays driveways are routinely packed with 3-4 cars as their kids today don't move out on their own until their thirties. For the first time in history there are now more TVs per household and people living there. And we're no talking the old antennae Philco TVs that we had.
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I don't know about the growth of wages in the last 40 years but I do know the tremendous increase in quality of life in the last 40 years. I was there.
People today have no idea, no conception, no clue, as to how much better today, in regard to economic prosperity and lifestyle. This has nothing to do with whether or not we are better people or a better society but what a teenager has today compared to what I had as a teenager is not comparable. Just something like eating out. In my day, eating out was an event and a luxury. Our family got dressed up to go to Zippy's drive in for a plate lunch and we planned weeks in advance to go to McDonald's when one opened in our neighborhood to get their much touted Big Macs. I remember as we piled into the station wagon my neighborhood friends were telling each other that we were going out to get Big Macs. Seems like most people eat out practically everyday now.
And the idea of a parent buying their kid a car just was not even a consideration. The ambitious ones worked and got a jalopy that they worked on every weekend to keep it running. I see kids with their cell phones, lap tops, fashionable shoes and clothes. They seem to always have extra money for fancy haircuts, hair color, tattoos. I remember asking my friend what he got for his birthday and he said, "One shirt and one 'nother one." Not having to wear hand me downs and having your own shirt bought just for you was a bit of treat.
And to keep it bbing related no parent would pay for their kid to go to a gym. There were gyms and I save up all year so I could afford 3 months (the whole summer) to train at Mit's gym (Mit was Arnold's go to guy here in Hawaii and was part of his entourage at his wedding). It was an hour and a half bus ride and I was the only kid there. I remember Mit making fun of me for doing cable crossovers which suddenly became very popular because Pumping Iron was out at the time. He said that a skinny kid like me should stick to the bench and squats and if I ever got any muscle then I can go "finishing" exercises. He'd be sued today for hurting my feelings.
Now kids today have access to state of the art equipment which they use mostly to sit and watch TV or text on their cells. The rest of us saved up for a Sear's 110 lb barbell set and trained at home with a couple of buddies and actually used that one barbell we saved up for.
Economic prosperity is much greater today than decades past in virtually every aspect of life. Only the very rich 40 years ago had more than one car. Nowadays driveways are routinely packed with 3-4 cars as their kids today don't move out on their own until their thirties. For the first time in history there are now more TVs per household and people living there. And we're no talking the old antennae Philco TVs that we had.
Certainly the domestic situation improved following the war. The baby boomers did much better than their parents but the improvements you describe all went to the baby boomers. There's a reason why the generation of kids that followed still depend on their parents. You can't think 30 year olds living with their parents are doing that out of choice when their parents had 3 kids, a car, a house and a dog at the same age. More tv's? Cable crossovers? a cellphone? The kids don't own those cars in the driveway. Nobody goes to the US with the hopes of getting decent health care either (except rich folks). That's not progress. It's a mixed picture.
Was there a period of growth after the war? Yes, but it's been over for a long time.
Looking forward to rebutting more of your outrageous claims about the benign nature of US foreign policy. Please bring more of these outbursts. I recall you went into an extreme tizzy about the how the US defeated fascism hahah or the noble battle against communism waged by the great ronald reagan.
Are you ready to reexamine these positions or will you remain steadfast against the torrent of contrary evidence?
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Certainly the domestic situation improved following the war. The baby boomers did much better than their parents but the improvements you describe all went to the baby boomers. There's a reason why the generation of kids that followed still depend on their parents. You can't think 30 year olds living with their parents are doing that out of choice when their parents had 3 kids, a car, a house and a dog at the same age. More tv's? Cable crossovers? a cellphone? The kids don't own those cars in the driveway. Nobody goes to the US with the hopes of getting decent health care either (except rich folks). That's not progress. It's a mixed picture.
Was there a period of growth after the war? Yes, but it's been over for a long time.
Looking forward to rebutting more of your outrageous claims about the benign nature of US foreign policy. Please bring more of these outbursts. I recall you went into an extreme tizzy about the how the US defeated fascism hahah or the noble battle against communism waged by the great ronald reagan.
Are you ready to reexamine these positions or will you remain steadfast against the torrent of contrary evidence?
Yes they do live with their parents by choice. They do it because it's easier and they can keep more of their money. How do I know? I ask them. They say "Why should I pay rent when I can live at home for free?" The idea of being an adult and making it on your own doesn't even dawn on them. None are willing to scrap it nowadays and get that tiny studio apartment and have a go at your own. And whether they own their luxuries is not the point. It's that it is provided for them.
(If there are any readers left on this thread, putting personalities and personal feelings to the side, does anybody agree with Turbo?)
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(from the posts i've read) Turbo brings the truth without any ingrained bias for or against the United States of America.
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(from the posts i've read) Turbo brings the truth without any ingrained bias for or against the United States of America.
So America has never done any good at all in this world?
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So America has never done any good at all in this world?
I haven't read every word of every post, but is he saying that?
Most of the time, it acts in (what it thinks is) its self-interest ... sometimes that's good ... sometimes that's bad.
(As a Canadian, i'm happy to have the U.S. as our neighbour.)
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I haven't read every word of every post, but is he saying that?
Most of the time, it acts in (what it thinks is) its self-interest ... sometimes that's good ... sometimes that's bad.
(As a Canadian, i'm happy to have the U.S. as our neighbour.)
Seems you maybe haven't read any word of any post. Very anti-Yank.