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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: _aj_ on January 25, 2016, 06:08:42 AM
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Do you spend a lot of time in the gym? Check
Do you obsess about the size of your muscles? Check
Do you think you should have bigger muscles? Check
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Since when does striving for self-improvement have to be a disorder? We used to refer to that as a net positive. Sometimes, you really DO look like a steaming pile of shit. There is far too much unearned self-regard in this country. I'm sorry, but you really are weak and really do need more muscle and yes, women actually do dig guys with muscles. Deal with it.
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Nothing wrong with people trying to look and feel their best.
The thing hat kills me is the people who look like utter shit, and think they are Arnold (Genova, Blaha, etc).
Body delusiona...
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I cosign this.
People these days are told to love their bodies no matter what. But what if you love being muscular? Why isn't that OK?
Bettering yourself is always a good thing, doesn't matter in what.
I know this analogy is way off base, but I liken it to telling a student who strives to achieve their PhD to just stop at a masters degree. I mean, you're plenty smart, why do you need a PhD? Just be happy with a masters. Fucking pussies with no ambition in life.
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Do you spend a lot of time in the gym? Check
Do you obsess about the size of your muscles? Check
Do you think you should have bigger muscles? Check
::)
Since when does striving for self-improvement have to be a disorder? We used to refer to that as a net positive. Sometimes, you really DO look like a steaming pile of shit. There is far too much unearned self-regard in this country. I'm sorry, but you really are weak and really do need more muscle and yes, women actually do dig guys with muscles. Deal with it.
It's a fine line between "striving for self-improvement" and having a mental disorder destroying or at least severely impacting every aspect of your social life and/or career.
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It's a fine line between "striving for self-improvement" and having a disorder destroying or at least severely impacting every aspect of your social life and/or career.
It's actually not "a fine line", it's a huge honking blinking line that anybody can see. Pretending that going to the gym 4-6 times a week is some kind of gateway drug to living in the dumpster outside of Golds is just retarded.
That is the kind of shit that the weak tell themselves so that they stay content with their weakness. It's shameful.
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At the most extreme level, body dysmorphia is a major issue that can be damaging to both your mental and physical health. See Rich Piana for an example of that.
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Pretending that going to the gym 4-6 times a week is some kind of gateway drug to living in the dumpster outside of Golds is just retarded.
You go to the gym 4-6 times a week? Do you spend just as much time caring about your friends, family, social contacts? Do you still have time to educate yourself intellectually, reading books, learning languages, further your career?
Or is basically a majority of your spare time lifting, eating/taking supps and prepping food? Just be honest to yourself, you don't have to be honest to others.
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You go to the gym 4-6 times a week? Do you spend just as much time caring about your friends, family, social contacts? Do you still have time to educate yourself intellectually, reading books, learning languages, further your career?
Or is basically a majority of your spare time lifting, eating/taking supps and prepping food? Just be honest to yourself, you don't have to be honest to others.
I go to the gym 6-7 times a week. I structure much of my spare time to allow for this indulgence. I have a family and by most measures are at the peak of my chosen career. I am a good husband, father, friend and neighbor and still have time to be considered "body dysmorphic" by the fat and lazy of the world.
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Do you spend a lot of time in the gym? Check
Do you obsess about the size of your muscles? Check
Do you think you should have bigger muscles? Check
::)
Since when does striving for self-improvement have to be a disorder? We used to refer to that as a net positive. Sometimes, you really DO look like a steaming pile of shit. There is far too much unearned self-regard in this country. I'm sorry, but you really are weak and really do need more muscle and yes, women actually do dig guys with muscles. Deal with it.
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I go to the gym 6-7 times a week. I structure much of my spare time to allow for this indulgence. I have a family and by most measures are at the peak of my chosen career. I am a good husband, father, friend and neighbor and still have time to be considered "body dysmorphic" by the fat and lazy of the world.
Classic answer you'd get from most tragic gym monks :)
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It's actually not "a fine line", it's a huge honking blinking line that anybody can see. Pretending that going to the gym 4-6 times a week is some kind of gateway drug to living in the dumpster outside of Golds is just retarded.
That is the kind of shit that the weak tell themselves so that they stay content with their weakness. It's shameful.
Can I get some HRT prescribed to treat it? Don't they give methadone to heroin addicts? Seems only fair to give HRT to the poor suffering souls.
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I noticed i had some sort of body dysmorphia when i was prepping for a contest years ago: I was getting bigger and ripped daily, but everytime i looked in the mirror i felt frustation because i perceived myself smaller.
Everybody in the gym was giving me props due to my improved size and conditioning, and girls were starting to tell me i was getting too muscular and starting to be repulsive sexually.
I believe the hormones played a role in how i felt because when i stopped using i became "normal" emotionally.
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Also, this faux epidemic has also given rise to such derivative retardation as the "dad bod", where women try to pretend that the pear shaped man is actually preferable. It didn't last long, as biology asserted itself quite resoundingly.
I have a female friend recently returned to the dating scene. She's a gym rat and very buff. At first, she tried to shrug off the need, saying that she just wanted a man that "knows how to take care of himself" ( ::)). After a few dates with the sad state of single/divorced men out there, she finally came clean that she "needs a man with actual visible muscle". See, this is the triumph of biology over pathetic pretend social constructs.
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Do you spend a lot of time in the gym? Check
Do you obsess about the size of your muscles? Check
Do you think you should have bigger muscles? Check
::)
Since when does striving for self-improvement have to be a disorder? We used to refer to that as a net positive. Sometimes, you really DO look like a steaming pile of shit. There is far too much unearned self-regard in this country. I'm sorry, but you really are weak and really do need more muscle and yes, women actually do dig guys with muscles. Deal with it.
I can put on 20lbs and lose 20lbs without really noticing, should come in handy when its time to pack it in.
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Aj, the first step is admitting you have a problem. Your lack of "sufficient" results, for someone who has trained for 30 years, proves that your mind/muscle connection is non existent.
They have a word for that: Delusional.
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I cosign this.
People these days are told to love their bodies no matter what. But what if you love being muscular? Why isn't that OK?
Bettering yourself is always a good thing, doesn't matter in what.
I know this analogy is way off base, but I liken it to telling a student who strives to achieve their PhD to just stop at a masters degree. I mean, you're plenty smart, why do you need a PhD? Just be happy with a masters. Fucking pussies with no ambition in life.
The reason why is so that nobody feels bad about themselves. Everybody needs to be accepted. And nobody wants to feel left out or unattractive. Unfortunately, doing something to make yourself look and feel better than the rest of the "herd", means that you are telling them that you are better, and it highlights their weaknesses.
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The reason why is so that nobody feels bad about themselves. Everybody needs to be accepted. And nobody wants to feel left out or unattractive. Unfortunately, doing something to make yourself look and feel better than the rest of the "herd", means that you are telling them that you are better, and it highlights their weaknesses.
Body dysmorphia DOES exist. It's real, even if you think it doesn't exist.
The problem is that you're taking body dysmorphia out of context. You're fitting the behavior into a small framework and saying, "Look, it really doesn't exist." Yup, sounds like critical thinking to me. :D :D
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I believe it only really becomes a issue when it's taking up the majority of your time and you start taking drugs to reach your goals. That being said I'm borderline body dysmorphic.
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The reason why is so that nobody feels bad about themselves. Everybody needs to be accepted. And nobody wants to feel left out or unattractive. Unfortunately, doing something to make yourself look and feel better than the rest of the "herd", means that you are telling them that you are better, and it highlights their weaknesses.
I agree except we are not "telling them that we are better", we are telling them that we strive to be better than we are and by doing so, we prove our superiority via determination if not outright objectively looking better than them.
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Body dysmorphia DOES exist. It's real, even if you think it doesn't exist.
The problem is that you're taking body dysmorphia out of context. You're fitting the behavior into a small framework and saying, "Look, it really doesn't exist." Yup, sounds like critical thinking to me. :D :D
Is it any better than your taking of a small problem and enlarging it to fit a larger population to achieve a socially deterministic outcome? I'm not saying that it doesn't exist, but in vanishingly small numbers of cases. The rest is just a bunch of twinks and fatasses trying to feel better about what they see in the mirror.
Oh, and here are a few obligatory :D :D :D
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I agree except we are not "telling them that we are better", we are telling them that we strive to be better than we are and by doing so, we prove our superiority via determination if not outright objectively looking better than them.
But when does the amount of work put in justify the diminished returns?
If you enjoy doing it, then by all means continue, but working out 6-7 times a week is clearly overkill in your case.
That is what you must come to grips with. Are you progressing, or are you annihilating, and wasting most of your time?
I'd say you would get the same results from working out 3 times a week, but your body dysmorphia is obviously telling you otherwise.
Plain and simple: You are addicted to working out. Lack of results nonwithstanding.
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Is it any better than your taking of a small problem and enlarging it to fit a larger population to achieve a socially deterministic outcome? I'm not saying that it doesn't exist, but in vanishingly small numbers of cases. The rest is just a bunch of twinks and fatasses trying to feel better about what they see in the mirror.
Oh, and here are a few obligatory :D :D :D
No, its not better, but when youre waking up at 3am to go to the gym, missing school and work, ignoring your wife/children/friends, and spending your savings on steroids/supplements, and youre life is going down the shitter, all in the name of "getting big," then, yes, its a huge problem.
The issue is that nothing is diagnosed as a disorder unless it interferes with various domains of functioning. For any behavior to be diagnosed as a disorder, it must "cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning." You're sort of missing that VERY important piece. Obviously, I would not expect you to know this small nuance when diagnosing a disorder. But its an important part in whether someone will be diagnosed with Body Dysmorphic Disorder. Nonetheless, someone can have traces of BDD without actually being diagnosed with it.
But, when all is said and done, yes, I do believe that BDD is just spouted off, without people really understanding the fine nuances of it. Is it real? Absolutely. Is it an overhyped saying? Absolutely.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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But when does the amount of work put in justify the diminished returns?
If you enjoy doing it, then by all means continue, but working out 6-7 times a week is clearly overkill in your case.
That is what you must come to grips with. Are you progressing, or are you annihilating, and wasting most of your time?
I'd say you would get the same results from working out 3 times a week, but your body dysmorphia is obviously telling you otherwise.
Plain and simple: You are addicted to working out. Lack of results nonwithstanding.
Tried to troll AJ with your first response, and you were ignored by him.
Then you come back with a more serious post, in order to bait him.
Geez, you desire his attention that badly, huh? :D :D :D
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No, its not better, but when youre waking up at 3am to go to the gym, missing school and work, ignoring your wife/children/friends, and spending your savings on steroids/supplements, and youre life is going down the shitter, all in the name of "getting big," then, yes, its a huge problem.
The issue is that nothing is diagnosed as a disorder unless it interferes with various domains of functioning. For any behavior to be diagnosed as a disorder, it must "cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning." You're sort of missing that VERY important piece in your tirade. Obviously, I would not expect you to know this small nuance when diagnosing a disorder. But its an important part in whether someone will be diagnosed with Body Dysmorphic Disorder. Nonetheless, someone can have traces of BDD without actually being diagnosed with it.
But, when all is said and done, yes, I do believe that BDD is just spouted off, without people really understanding the fine nuances of it. Is it real? Absolutely. Is it an overhyped saying? Absolutely.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Well, I accept that distinction. I suppose that I am talking about the non-clinical "social" diagnosis that seems to underlie much of the fat acceptance movement, not the clinical diagnosis. That said, clinical psychology has a penchant for allowing social movements to determine diagnostic trends. Witness the redefinition of autism and the explosion of clinical diagnosis of ADD in otherwise active boys. I suspect that clinical psychology to "catch up" to the social diagnosis soon.
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There is something to it. On some mornings I'll feel bloated and wear a tank to the beach or park and see a bunch of fatasses shirtless. I'm in better shape than any of those guys but If I don't feel on point I won't take off my shirt.
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Well, I accept that distinction. I suppose that I am talking about the non-clinical "social" diagnosis that seems to underlie much of the fat acceptance movement, not the clinical diagnosis. That said, clinical psychology has a penchant for allowing social movements to determine diagnostic trends. Witness the redefinition of autism and the explosion of clinical diagnosis of ADD in otherwise active boys. I suspect that clinical psychology to "catch up" to the social diagnosis soon.
Well, let me correct you on your above statement. The DSM task force is actually headed by the American Psychiatric Association, NOT the American Psychological Association (Clinical/Counseling Psychologists). Each disorder has a taskforce, and psychologists are part of the task force (some more than others). However, the DSM is published and headed by the American Psychiatric Association (Psychiatrists). The DSM V sucks, and many clinical/counseling psychologists have taken a stand against it. Many new diagnoses are often "made up," so psychiatrists can push their medication. Obviously, you do not know, but there are is a huge force of psychologists that are pushing back against psychiatry. So, blame psychiatry, not clinical psychology for the social trends of diagnoses. We are required by the insurance companies and the law to follow the DSM. We have no choice. Damn psychiatrists.
Autism and Aspergers have similar traits, and were thus categorized under "Autism Spectrum Disorder" with a severity qualifier (mild, moderate, or severe). I am fine with this. Ive worked with both populations. At the core, many of the symptoms are strikingly similar.
I don't agree with the explosion of ADHD diagnoses and the medicine that is given to children. Many clinical/counseling psychologists do not agree with this.
Again, even if clinical psychology caught up with the social trend, it wouldn't create a new diagnosis. It may just lead to an overdiagnosis of the BDD. However, just like in any profession, there are good and bad people. Hopefully, the good will be able to tease apart real BDD from you're every day gym rat.
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Well, let me correct you on your above statement. The DSM task force is actually headed by the American Psychiatric Association, NOT the American Psychological Association (Clinical/Counseling Psychologists). Each disorder has a taskforce, and psychologists are part of the task force (some more than others). However, the DSM is published and headed by the American Psychiatric Association (Psychiatrists). The DSM V sucks, and many clinical/counseling psychologists have taken a stand against it. Many new diagnoses are often "made up," so psychiatrists can push their medication. Obviously, you do not know, but there are is a huge force of psychologists that are pushing back against psychiatry. So, blame psychiatry, not clinical psychology for the social trends of diagnoses. We are required by the insurance companies and the law to follow the DSM. We have no choice. Damn psychiatrists.
Autism and Aspergers have similar traits, and were thus categorized under "Autism Spectrum Disorder" with a severity qualifier (mild, moderate, or severe). I am fine with this. Ive worked with both populations. At the core, many of the symptoms are strikingly similar.
I don't agree with the explosion of ADHD diagnoses and the medicine that is given to children. Many clinical/counseling psychologists do not agree with this.
Again, even if clinical psychology caught up with the social trend, it wouldn't create a new diagnosis. It may just lead to an overdiagnosis of the BDD. However, just like in any profession, there are good and bad people. Hopefully, the good will be able to tease apart real BDD from you're every day gym rat.
Good post. I will leave the psychology aspects now where I am clearly outgunned and just concentrate my fire on fat or out of shape folks that do not strive to better themselves. They make me ill.
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There is something to it. On some mornings I'll feel bloated and wear a tank to the beach or park and see a bunch of fatasses shirtless. I'm in better shape than any of those guys but If I don't feel on point I won't take off my shirt.
You can have traces of BDD, without actually having full-blown BDD. I think everyone who fervently tries to gain more and and more muscles has small traces of BDD. However, for most people, it just doesn't reach the level of impairment or a clinical diagnosis, except in those rare cases.
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Good post. I will leave the psychology aspects now where I am clearly outgunned and just concentrate my fire on fat or out of shape folks that do not strive to better themselves. They make me ill.
I 100% agree with you. I think that we live in an era where people are accepted for an unhealthy lifestyle.
This is thing, in the field of clinical psychology, we already know the importance of a strong body and strong mind. There is a clear link between mental health and physical health. The evidence is overwhelming in the field of Clinical Health Psychology (sub-field of psychology that studies the link between brain/mind and body).
I think EVERYONE should exercise and eat a good diet. To me, its not an option. It should be a requirement in life.
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Do you spend a lot of time in the gym? Check
Do you obsess about the size of your muscles? Check
Do you think you should have bigger muscles? Check
::)
Since when does striving for self-improvement have to be a disorder? We used to refer to that as a net positive. Sometimes, you really DO look like a steaming pile of shit. There is far too much unearned self-regard in this country. I'm sorry, but you really are weak and really do need more muscle and yes, women actually do dig guys with muscles. Deal with it.
C'mon dude. You're smart enough to know the difference between strivibg to look good/adding muscle and body dismorphia.
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C'mon dude. You're smart enough to know the difference between strivibg to look good/adding muscle and body dismorphia.
Indeed I am, brother. You are missing my point. It is the vast majority of society that fails to note the difference.
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But when does the amount of work put in justify the diminished returns?
If you enjoy doing it, then by all means continue, but working out 6-7 times a week is clearly overkill in your case.
That is what you must come to grips with. Are you progressing, or are you annihilating, and wasting most of your time?
I'd say you would get the same results from working out 3 times a week, but your body dysmorphia is obviously telling you otherwise.
Plain and simple: You are addicted to working out. Lack of results nonwithstanding.
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This makes sense. Shizzo is an addict so he is qualified to offer training advice, even if has no experience himself.
So trolling here is just what you do.
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Do you spend a lot of time in the gym? Check
Do you obsess about the size of your muscles? Check
Do you think you should have bigger muscles? Check
::)
Since when does striving for self-improvement have to be a disorder? We used to refer to that as a net positive. Sometimes, you really DO look like a steaming pile of shit. There is far too much unearned self-regard in this country. I'm sorry, but you really are weak and really do need more muscle and yes, women actually do dig guys with muscles. Deal with it.
It's a real thing. They see a different body in the mirror.
Simplest example I can use is Bulimia. You could think a woman hot as two motherfuckers. She looks in the mirror and sees is a fat fuck that needs to diet and exercise more.
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It's a real thing. They see a different body in the mirror.
They should just take a picture. That usually cures me of thinking I look decent when I use the mirror. ;D
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There is something to it. On some mornings I'll feel bloated and wear a tank to the beach or park and see a bunch of fatasses shirtless. I'm in better shape than any of those guys but If I don't feel on point I won't take off my shirt.
at 15-16% I feel like a cow, to an average skinny fat chick at a bar "Im super ripped." gym goers have overly high standards
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They should just take a picture. That usually cures me of thinking I look decent when I use the mirror. ;D
They'd still see a distorted image.
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They should just take a picture. That usually cures me of thinking I look decent when I use the mirror. ;D
I do this and then send a pic to AJ. :D
This was one I first sent to him this summer.
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They'd still see a distorted image.
Message board lesson: Large smiley face icon that follows a post generally indicates a joke or sarcasm.
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Message board lesson: Large smiley face icon that follows a post generally indicates a joke or sarcasm.
We've seen some pretty bad pictures on this site.
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We've seen some pretty bad pictures on this site.
I agree.
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/drkaje/IMG_0002-1.jpg)
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I agree.
(http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/drkaje/IMG_0002-1.jpg)
That guy looks like total shit, should give up on working out, and possibly take up swimming.
Fucking twink!
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That guy looks like total shit, should give up on working out, and possibly take up swimming.
Fucking twink!
That's the spirit! ;D
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I 100% agree with you. I think that we live in an era where people are accepted for an unhealthy lifestyle.
This is thing, in the field of clinical psychology, we already know the importance of a strong body and strong mind. There is a clear link between mental health and physical health. The evidence is overwhelming in the field of Clinical Health Psychology (sub-field of psychology that studies the link between brain/mind and body).
I think EVERYONE should exercise and eat a good diet. To me, its not an option. It should be a requirement in life.
I've never been able to wrap my head around doctors who are morbidly obese. I work in the medical field and see it all the time. I myself wouldn't want to be treated by someone who clearly doesn't take care of themselves.
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I've never been able to wrap my head around doctors who are morbidly obese. I work in the medical field and see it all the time. I myself wouldn't want to be treated by someone who clearly doesn't take care of themselves.
The interesting thing is that not everyone can take their own advice. You can tell someone else to eat healthy from a professional standpoint, but sometimes that does not transfer to one's own life.
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Indeed I am, brother. You are missing my point. It is the vast majority of society that fails to note the difference.
Ah yes, my bad. I Read the post but didn't really "read" it. I do agree, most people think a little muscle is outrageous. I think most people haven't ever been in a true hardcore gym and probably think that the few somewhat bigger guys in their local LA fitness are the biggest guys out there.
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That guy looks like total shit, should give up on working out, and possibly take up swimming.
Fucking twink!
Is this a race bait? :D
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I do this and then send a pic to AJ. :D
This was one I first sent to him this summer.
brutal fake wood trim on the car
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Most getbiggers have Reverse Body Dysmorphia.
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Body dysmorphia DOES exist. It's real, even if you think it doesn't exist.
The problem is that you're taking body dysmorphia out of context. You're fitting the behavior into a small framework and saying, "Look, it really doesn't exist." Yup, sounds like critical thinking to me. :D :D
Of course it exists. But, what I am talking about is the "need for acceptance". The morbidly obese want to be accepted as looking just as attractive normal sized people. This is more prevelant for women than men, as nobody cares about morbidly obese men and their wants. But at the same time, people find in shape people attractive. So, you have this fight with wanting all to be accepted, but the reality is that it is not.
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Is this a race bait? :D
He sucks at swimming.
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It's a real thing. They see a different body in the mirror.
Simplest example I can use is Bulimia. You could think a woman hot as two motherfuckers. She looks in the mirror and sees is a fat fuck that needs to diet and exercise more.
Or bodybuilders/ those into fitness. One case on here. Cherry (Mike Arvilla's ex) had a look that was just perfect. And then she went overboard. She then got defensive and in a nutshell said that "we" don't determine what is good or not.
Also, we see male bodybuilders all the time that say that they need to get bigger to be better, and when they do, they LLS.
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He sucks at swimming.
And not much better at cardio.
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Wider than Heath.
Good hamstring separation.
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I do this and then send a pic to AJ. :D
This was one I first sent to him this summer.
Why are you showing photos of your cock? Oh wait, that's an arm. Carry on......
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And not much better at cardio.
True, Cal.
True,
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No, never. Not even with the blue pills.
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No, never. Not even with the blue pills.
You don't like seeing all her bones?!
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=603609.0;attach=667833;image)
It boggles my mind she is still alive...
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This is just another way of excusing fat people from their unhealthy life choices.
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Great dismorphic before after pic.
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/b0c330f1e82c6596694cdaae3945444a/tumblr_ni6piggUD31s8qgd4o3_1280.jpg)
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This is just another way of excusing fat people from their unhealthy life choices.
Indeed. Their lack of willpower disgusts me.
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I can tell you this, ridiculing and shaming someone will most likely not result in motivation for them to lose weight. On the hand, enabling and lying to them will also not provide them with motivation to lose weight. There has to be a middle-ground between the two. Granted, people have every right to make fun of them (freedom of speech, blah, blah, blah). But from a motivational perspective, it rarely works.
Think of anxiety and performance. Research shows that there needs to be an optimal level of anxiety for peak performance. Too much anxiety, and your performance suffers. Too little anxiety, and your performance suffers. Think of bell curve (that meaty portion in the middle is the optimal performance of anxiety; too far right or left, and performance suffers).
I think the same thing would apply for people losing weight. Too much shame and humiliation won't work; too much enabling and lying won't work. You need to provide them with something in the middle.
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Nothing wrong with people trying to look and feel their best.
The thing hat kills me is the people who look like utter shit, and think they are Arnold (Genova, Blaha, etc).
Body delusiona...
Genova has a legitimate brain retardation so he's in alittle bit more or a harder place than people like blaha.. Then again.. Brain retardation can effect in maaany different ways.. Blaha just happens to have a tight grasp to his language cells lol
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Great dismorphic before after pic.
Yet she's still enabled and treated like a princess. People online even pretend her obesity is caused by PCOS, LOL!
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So disgusting!
Her ass is dented inwards. Looks to have a nice peach pussy though!
The bad of bones standing has a pretty face, weird it's not thinner.
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I can tell you this, ridiculing and shaming someone will most likely not result in motivation for them to lose weight. On the hand, enabling and lying to them will also not provide them with motivation to lose weight. There has to be a middle-ground between the two. Granted, people have every right to make fun of them (freedom of speech, blah, blah, blah). But from a motivational perspective, it rarely works.
Think of anxiety and performance. Research shows that there needs to be an optimal level of anxiety for peak performance. Too much anxiety, and your performance suffers. Too little anxiety, and your performance suffers. Think of bell curve (that meaty portion in the middle is the optimal performance of anxiety; too far right or left, and performance suffers).
I think the same thing would apply for people losing weight. Too much shame and humiliation won't work; too much enabling and lying won't work. You need to provide them with something in the middle.
I think different people find motivation in different scenarios. I remember when I first started going to a gym when I was 18. I was in awe of the big guys there. No homo. Far from demotivating me, they became what I was striving for. Now, those same guys are "lunks" and are kicked out of a gym because somebody might feel bad about how they look. Frankly, people today are fucking homos and need a good reality check. No, eating like shit and doing a few curls wont make you look good. No, sweat and pain actually IS a requirement.
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You're done!
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I think different people find motivation in different scenarios. I remember when I first started going to a gym when I was 18. I was in awe of the big guys there. No homo. Far from demotivating me, they became what I was striving for. Now, those same guys are "lunks" and are kicked out of a gym because somebody might feel bad about how they look. Frankly, people today are fucking homos and need a good reality check. No, eating like shit and doing a few curls wont make you look good. No, sweat and pain actually IS a requirement.
Well, of course, different people need different types of motivation. However, we have overwhelming evidence that the MAJORITY (not ALL) of people do not respond well to humiliation and shame. When attempting to change someone's behavior regarding performance, there is strong evidence that specific key factors are fundamental to change. They are usually not shame and/or humiliation. Yes, people do find motivation in different scenarios, but its usually not a scenario that involves degradation and humiliation. This may lead to short-term change, but it will hardly lead to long-term change. Its the same thing with drug addicts. Humiliation and shaming them won't lead them to change. If it was that easy, people would be able to kick their habit just by a little humiliation. Behavior change is EXTREMELY complex and I am reluctant to agree on any level that shaming/humiliating someone is the way to go. On the other, as I stated previously, enabling and lying to them, won't change their behavior either. A middle-ground approach between the two extreme poles (humiliation/shaming and enabling/lying) is usually what works. But, of course, it varies from person-to-person. My thoughts are regarding the majority of people, not ALL people.
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I can tell you this, ridiculing and shaming someone will most likely not result in motivation for them to lose weight. On the hand, enabling and lying to them will also not provide them with motivation to lose weight. There has to be a middle-ground between the two. Granted, people have every right to make fun of them (freedom of speech, blah, blah, blah). But from a motivational perspective, it rarely works.
Think of anxiety and performance. Research shows that there needs to be an optimal level of anxiety for peak performance. Too much anxiety, and your performance suffers. Too little anxiety, and your performance suffers. Think of bell curve (that meaty portion in the middle is the optimal performance of anxiety; too far right or left, and performance suffers).
I think the same thing would apply for people losing weight. Too much shame and humiliation won't work; too much enabling and lying won't work. You need to provide them with something in the middle.
Are you implying you should feed them then ridicule them?
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Are you implying you should feed them then ridicule them?
I guess you missed the part about "enabling and lying" to them.
Getbigger see what they want to see. :D :D
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Yet she's still enabled and treated like a princess. People online even pretend her obesity is caused by PCOS, LOL!
Her condition sure didn't help, but nobody gets fat without excess eating.
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I am not after bigger muscles, just better quality muscles ;D
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Her condition sure didn't help, but nobody gets fat without excess eating.
Her condition is caused by obesity.
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I love to be jacked, simple as that. Have been in top shape for the last 10+ years, only better thing is sex with a hot bitch. And that's if Im in the mood for it, otherwise it's best thing in the world. I think I could become one of these FB "fitness stars" if I wanted, but I find it ridiculously time consuming to take all these pics in perfect angles, filter them, upload every day, I have better stuff to do.
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I love to be jacked, simple as that. Have been in top shape for the last 10+ years, only better thing is sex with a hot bitch. And that's if Im in the mood for it, otherwise it's best thing in the world. I think I could becoe one of these FB "fitness stars" if I wanted, but I find it ridiculously time consuming to take all these pics in perfect angles, filter them, upload every day, I have better stuff to do.
Testify, brother.
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I love to be jacked, simple as that. Have been in top shape for the last 10+ years, only better thing is sex with a hot bitch. And that's if Im in the mood for it, otherwise it's best thing in the world. I think I could become one of these FB "fitness stars" if I wanted, but I find it ridiculously time consuming to take all these pics in perfect angles, filter and photoshop them, upload every day, I have better stuff to do.
Fixed.
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Fixed.
Yes of course, that's what I meant. I turn heads without PS, but all these guys/girls edit their pics, no doubt.
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I love to be jacked, simple as that. Have been in top shape for the last 10+ years, only better thing is sex with a hot bitch. And that's if Im in the mood for it, otherwise it's best thing in the world. I think I could become one of these FB "fitness stars" if I wanted, but I find it ridiculously time consuming to take all these pics in perfect angles, filter them, upload every day, I have better stuff to do.
the time you spend posting on GB, you could be uploading pictures.
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I love to be jacked, simple as that. Have been in top shape for the last 10+ years, only better thing is sex with a hot bitch. And that's if Im in the mood for it, otherwise it's best thing in the world. I think I could become one of these FB "fitness stars" if I wanted, but I find it ridiculously time consuming to take all these pics in perfect angles, filter them, upload every day, I have better stuff to do.
You're at getbig now. All getbiggers are seriously jacked, too good to compete and extreme pussy slayers. ;D
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the time you spend posting on GB, you could be uploading pictures.
Naah... gb is way better waste of time. But you got me thinking (I could exchange porn to that)
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You're at getbig now. All getbiggers are seriously jacked, too good to compete and extreme pussy slayers. ;D
Fukk yeah!! And millionaires!
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I love to be jacked, simple as that. Have been in top shape for the last 10+ years, only better thing is sex with a hot bitch. And that's if Im in the mood for it, otherwise it's best thing in the world. I think I could become one of these FB "fitness stars" if I wanted, but I find it ridiculously time consuming to take all these pics in perfect angles, filter them, upload every day, I have better stuff to do.
I'd love that, too!
Sadly, I probably hate cardio worse than any Y boarder and get bored shitless on any machine. Calvin and GA are trying to get my lazy ass in shape, LOL!
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Mentally diseased muscles of peace.
Or just plain not wanting to look like shit, or average, or weak like the majority of people.
And having self-discipline, self-respect, and caring about your health, body, the food you eat and how you look.