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Title: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Marty Champions on February 21, 2016, 11:26:59 AM
but there is a wall all around the vatican and a 50 mile long secret library that only a select few can access if lucky

haha what a fuckin fagget boy i love classic heme iron bald head grey hair reasoning
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Kwon_2 on February 21, 2016, 11:30:03 AM
Bomb that fagget retard pope
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: devilsmile on February 21, 2016, 11:30:17 AM
the devil (pope) also said that trump ain't christian.

Yeah no shit he isn't christian, neither is obama, neither is anyone. Listen to obama's pro muslim/islam rants, he also said that america is no longer a christian country, but the pope is all goodie goodie with obama.

The only reason the pope is against trump is because trump is supposedly against the game... you know what game i'm talking about. If pope is against someone, the someone is usually good or at lest one of the lesser bads.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Marty Champions on February 21, 2016, 11:32:51 AM
trump fucking rules if i cant have the vatican library ill burn it to the madda fakin groun
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 21, 2016, 11:34:13 AM
50 mile long secret library? That's a shitload of books. 
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Marty Champions on February 21, 2016, 11:38:24 AM
50 mile long secret library? That's a shitload of books. 
yes and the fact u cant access it like in the movie bourne identity, u have to be very fucking special to read just a page of anything

u know im gonna need access there very soon sick of secret knowlege
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Rami on February 21, 2016, 11:44:15 AM
This is how angry I get by senseless attacks on Trump

Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Radical Plato on February 21, 2016, 11:48:37 AM
but there is a wall all around the vatican and a 50 mile long secret library that only a select few can access if lucky

haha what a fuckin fagget boy i love classic heme iron bald head grey hair reasoning
Pedophile paradise, and the select few always seem to be ten year old boys.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: funk51 on February 21, 2016, 11:50:24 AM
not since the days of adolf h have i've seen such charisma ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: funk51 on February 21, 2016, 11:51:58 AM
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Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Rami on February 21, 2016, 11:52:06 AM
not since the days of adolf h have i've seen such charisma ::) ::) ::) ::)

Cry more
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Palumboism on February 21, 2016, 11:54:32 AM
but there is a wall all around the vatican and a 50 mile long secret library that only a select few can access if lucky

haha what a fuckin fagget boy i love classic heme iron bald head grey hair reasoning

This wall should have been built twenty years ago.  Pay no attention to the pope.  He lives in a fantasy world and wants to export the problems of South America to the USA.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SuperTed on February 21, 2016, 11:57:32 AM
If Trump gets elected, does anyone think a wall will really be built?

Almost all of what Trump says just appears to be populist rhetoric with little substance.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: tom joad on February 21, 2016, 11:57:50 AM
50 mile long secret library? That's a shitload of books. 

maybe he likes reading?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Palumboism on February 21, 2016, 12:04:56 PM
If Trump gets elected, does anyone think a wall will really be built?

Almost all of what Trump says just appears to be populist rhetoric with little substance.

Trump made his money in construction.  Not only do I think it'll be built, I think it will be the best run government construction project ever.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: ritch on February 21, 2016, 12:05:55 PM
I bet that secret library is all bullshit, just something to add "msytique" to what is known as religion.

Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: HTexan on February 21, 2016, 12:11:01 PM
trump is a idiot, and only idiots want him to be their king.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Mr.1derful on February 21, 2016, 12:12:07 PM
but there is a wall all around the vatican and a 50 mile long secret library that only a select few can access if lucky

haha what a fuckin fagget boy i love classic heme iron bald head grey hair reasoning

The Pope is a false leader of a false religion.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: OB1 on February 21, 2016, 12:26:42 PM
the devil (pope) also said that trump ain't christian.

Yeah no shit he isn't christian, neither is obama, neither is anyone. Listen to obama's pro muslim/islam rants, he also said that america is no longer a christian country, but the pope is all goodie goodie with obama.

The only reason the pope is against trump is because trump is supposedly against the game... you know what game i'm talking about. If pope is against someone, the someone is usually good or at lest one of the lesser bads.

Agreed.
I don't get why he has such a huge following (pope).
Dem people need moar brainz!!111!
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 21, 2016, 12:34:29 PM
trump is a idiot, and only idiots want him to be their king.

It's kind of ironic....no one ever points the finger at Mexico and its politicians and says clean up your third world shithole or we will stop all immigration.

The U.S. is always the bad guy. That fucking stooge Obama let the Mexican president dress down Congress and the American people right from the floor of the senate and never once held him accountable and told him to clean up his own shit back home
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Marty Champions on February 21, 2016, 12:37:23 PM
I bet that secret library is all bullshit, just something to add "msytique" to what is known as religion.


it exists so get the cock out of your ass
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: ritch on February 21, 2016, 12:48:27 PM
it exists so get the cock out of your ass

you just wish your cock was in my ass...
No need for such an angry reply now, we're all friends here!
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 21, 2016, 12:48:42 PM
If Trump gets elected, does anyone think a wall will really be built?

Almost all of what Trump says just appears to be populist rhetoric with little substance.

Of course not lol. Dumbest thing ever. The people who actually believe this are even more naive than Trump.

Trump is just pandering to voters with an IQ less than 50, who actually believe that this wall will actually be built.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Coach is Back! on February 21, 2016, 12:55:45 PM
but there is a wall all around the vatican and a 50 mile long secret library that only a select few can access if lucky

haha what a fuckin fagget boy i love classic heme iron bald head grey hair reasoning

It was a metaphor. Btw, I'm not catholic but comparing what he said to having wall around the Vatican isn't even relevant.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: HTexan on February 21, 2016, 12:56:35 PM
it exists so get the cock out of your ass
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Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Rami on February 21, 2016, 01:00:02 PM
Of course not lol. Dumbest thing ever. The people who actually believe this are even more naive than Trump.

Trump is just pandering to voters with an IQ less than 50, who actually believe that this wall will actually be built.

Incorrect. But I agree that a wall with gun turrets that tourists can rent for the day we are just not ready for yet as a culture. I will give you that, for now.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 21, 2016, 01:25:09 PM
Incorrect. But I agree that a wall with gun turrets that tourists can rent for the day we are just not ready for yet as a culture. I will give you that, for now.

What's incorrect? That Trumps voters are naive for actually believing that he is going to have a wall built? If not naive, what do you call it? Gullible?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Palumboism on February 21, 2016, 01:35:44 PM
Of course not lol. Dumbest thing ever. The people who actually believe this are even more naive than Trump.

Trump is just pandering to voters with an IQ less than 50, who actually believe that this wall will actually be built.

What's so hard about building a wall?  The great wall of China was built 2200 years ago and was three times as long and 26 feet high.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 21, 2016, 01:40:11 PM
I bet that secret library is all bullshit, just something to add "msytique" to what is known as religion.



Isn't the rumor that they have books purposely Ommited from the bible because it didn't tell the story they wanted it to tell?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: FitnessFrenzy on February 21, 2016, 01:43:26 PM
but there is a wall all around the vatican and a 50 mile long secret library that only a select few can access if lucky

haha what a fuckin fagget boy i love classic heme iron bald head grey hair reasoning

you think trump as president will benefit a painter like you? lol
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 21, 2016, 01:47:08 PM
What's so hard about building a wall?  The great wall of China was built 2200 years ago and was three times as long.

Where did I say it would be hard to build a wall? Please, point out where I said that.

I just said that a wall will not be built. I never specified WHY it won't be built.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Palumboism on February 21, 2016, 01:49:28 PM
Where did I say it would be hard to build a wall? Please, point out where I said that.

I just said that a wall will not be built. I never specified WHY it won't be built.

Why won't it be built?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 21, 2016, 01:58:02 PM
Why won't it be built?


Well, let me rephrase:

Will a wall NEVER be built? Well, I can't say for 100%, as I am eventually going to die. As such, maybe it will be built 200 years from now. Who knows. I can't predict the future.

However, if Trump became a president, I don't think a wall would be built under his presidency, or even years after that. There would be way too much push back from a variety of people and/or organizations. I think such a push back would forbade it from being built any time soon. Granted, I can be wrong. Anyone can be wrong, but I just don't believe there would be enough momentum to make it happen.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Palumboism on February 21, 2016, 02:12:26 PM
Well, let me rephrase:

Will a wall NEVER be built? Well, I can't say for 100%, as I am eventually going to die. As such, maybe it will be built 200 years from now. Who knows. I can't predict the future.

However, if Trump became a president, I don't think a wall would be built under his presidency, or even years after that. There would be way too much push back from a variety of people and/or organizations. I think such a push back would forbade it from being built any time soon. Granted, I can be wrong. Anyone can be wrong, but I just don't believe there would be enough momentum to make it happen.

You have to realize that the people who have land on the boarder are the ones who want the wall the most.  Freeways have been built in America that required thousands of people to move.  Why would a wall in the desert bring such protest?

I'm hoping there will be armed guards protecting the construction sites from hippies and Mexicans. 

You're not saying this wall couldn't be constructed in four years?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 21, 2016, 02:23:57 PM
You have to realize that the people who have land on the boarder are the ones who want the wall the most.  Freeways have been built in America that required thousands of people to move.  Why would a wall in the desert bring such protest?

I'm hoping there will be armed guards protecting the construction sites from hippies and Mexicans. 

You're not saying this wall couldn't be constructed in four years?

I don't know how long it would take to the construct the wall.

When I said that it would not occur under Trumps presidency, it has nothing to do with the amount of time. I just don't think it will come to pass while he is in president.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: ritch on February 21, 2016, 02:26:11 PM
Isn't the rumor that they have books purposely Ommited from the bible because it didn't tell the story they wanted it to tell?

No idea man.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: TuHolmes on February 21, 2016, 02:28:30 PM
Isn't the rumor that they have books purposely Ommited from the bible because it didn't tell the story they wanted it to tell?

More of it is because many texts were written by woman among other things.

I mean, it was written 1800 years ago... things were different then.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: OB1 on February 21, 2016, 02:32:23 PM
Isn't the rumor that they have books purposely Ommited from the bible because it didn't tell the story they wanted it to tell?

Yes.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Marty Champions on February 21, 2016, 02:58:32 PM
you just wish your cock was in my ass...
No need for such an angry reply now, we're all friends here!
my bad i thought we all hated me here fagget
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 21, 2016, 03:02:51 PM
What's incorrect? That Trumps voters are naive for actually believing that he is going to have a wall built? If not naive, what do you call it? Gullible?
Exactly, there is not going to be a fucking wall.

Talk about a dumb idea anyway.  Something that would cost billions that would be totally useless and would not generate or save a single dollar.

Mexicans don't give a fuck about walls.  They tunnel under them. 
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 21, 2016, 03:05:57 PM
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Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Marty Champions on February 21, 2016, 03:08:50 PM
Exactly, there is not going to be a fucking wall.

Talk about a dumb idea anyway.  Something that would cost billions that would be totally useless and would not generate or save a single dollar.

Mexicans don't give a fuck about walls.  They tunnel under them. 
point taken on tunnels this will happen but having a wall will stop many. 
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: chaos on February 21, 2016, 03:09:40 PM
Exactly, there is not going to be a fucking wall.

Talk about a dumb idea anyway.  Something that would cost billions that would be totally useless and would not generate or save a single dollar.

Mexicans don't give a fuck about walls.  They tunnel under them. 
We'll take your opinion into consideration......
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Yamcha on February 21, 2016, 03:10:31 PM
U.S. Southern Boarder - approx. 1950 miles
Number of Illegal Immigrants - approx. 11.7 million (very generous)

Feet in mile - 5280'
Boarder in Feet - approx. 10.3 million feet

Just have all illegal immigrants build 1 foot of wall for their citizenship, or deport them.  8)


Just kidding, let's have Obsidian impale them all.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Marty Champions on February 21, 2016, 03:12:10 PM
if 700,000 illegals cum to us per year a wall that mexico pays for will help

this will inturn force mexicans to be more crafty if they want to get here
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Kwon_2 on February 21, 2016, 03:28:17 PM
you think trump as president will benefit a painter like you? lol

Everyone benefits from Marty Falconetti!

Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: devilsmile on February 21, 2016, 03:40:21 PM
We'll take your opinion into consideration......

how old is abelis? 50? and look at his man boobies and dad jeans  :-X  :-X

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=605111.0;attach=670854;image)
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Kwon_2 on February 21, 2016, 03:43:00 PM
how old is abelis? 50? and look at his man boobies and dad jeans  :-X  :-X

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=605111.0;attach=670854;image)

Abeles livin' the life. That pic must be at least 12 years old by now.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 21, 2016, 04:17:40 PM
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You forgot the part where Bernie has no plan to avoid the iceberg. S
He likes to shout the obvious but nothing to back up how it can be done.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Tapeworm on February 21, 2016, 04:39:13 PM
The open border policy is in place to provide what amounts to slave labor in order to prop up an economic system that could not otherwise stand.  The United States' primary commodity has always been cheap sweat.

Nevertheless, if you don't have a border then you don't have a country.  In addition to a high voltage fence, the US must construct a dedicated deportation route consisting of two strongly anchored points atop a slope between which is strung a large quantity of surgical tubing of a grade that may be tensioned and released several tens of million times.  I do not support the proposed addition of decorative feathers to the ex-guest worker since this only serves to hinder the aerodynamic form which God and nature hath seen fit to impart him, although I would welcome a festive plumage on special occasions such as the cinco de mayo, La Dia de la Virgen de Guadalupe, and other culturally significant milestones.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 21, 2016, 04:40:36 PM
Well, let me rephrase:

Will a wall NEVER be built? Well, I can't say for 100%, as I am eventually going to die. As such, maybe it will be built 200 years from now. Who knows. I can't predict the future.

However, if Trump became a president, I don't think a wall would be built under his presidency, or even years after that. There would be way too much push back from a variety of people and/or organizations. I think such a push back would forbade it from being built any time soon. Granted, I can be wrong. Anyone can be wrong, but I just don't believe there would be enough momentum to make it happen.

It's going to be a virtual wall Princess....
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 21, 2016, 04:42:30 PM
We'll take your opinion into consideration......

That could EASILY be THE gayest pic ever posted on Getbig.

And 12-inch biceps to top it off.

"Only gay if you want obama's dick in your ass"
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: drkaje on February 21, 2016, 04:49:02 PM
Any blame belongs solely on those foolish enough to support Trump.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: hazbin on February 21, 2016, 04:51:53 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 21, 2016, 04:58:48 PM
You forgot the part where Bernie has no plan to avoid the iceberg. S
He likes to shout the obvious but nothing to back up how it can be done.
All of his plans are readily available.  I can't help it if you are too dumb to find them.

I would post them, but you would just accuse me of what other morons do- Copy and paste.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 21, 2016, 05:03:35 PM
It's going to be a virtual wall Princess....

Is Vince goodrum going to create this virtual wall with his epic computer skills?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 21, 2016, 05:24:49 PM
Is Vince goodrum going to create this virtual wall with his epic computer skills?

No, Vonce is busy working at WalMart to "offset" his federal and state taxes
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: drkaje on February 21, 2016, 06:17:17 PM
No, Vonce is busy working at WalMart to "offset" his federal and state taxes

Classic!
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: El Diablo Blanco on February 22, 2016, 01:04:35 AM
how old is abelis? 50? and look at his man boobies and dad jeans  :-X  :-X

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=605111.0;attach=670854;image)

Nice tits on the chick in the white T
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 06:01:52 AM
Nice tits on the chick in the white T
I agree!

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Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: drkaje on February 22, 2016, 06:35:23 AM
Is one of the dogs names Precious?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Grape Ape on February 22, 2016, 06:42:13 AM
Abeles livin' the life. That pic must be at least 12 years old by now.

Yes, from when Obama ran for President 12 years ago.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Slik on February 22, 2016, 08:24:37 AM
You forgot the part where Bernie has no plan to avoid the iceberg. S
He likes to shout the obvious but nothing to back up how it can be done.

"Iceberg! It's a one percenter hogging all the ice! Full speed ahead! Smash right through and we'll have free ice cubes for all!"
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Palumboism on February 22, 2016, 01:34:13 PM
Exactly, there is not going to be a fucking wall.

Talk about a dumb idea anyway.  Something that would cost billions that would be totally useless and would not generate or save a single dollar.

Mexicans don't give a fuck about walls.  They tunnel under them. 

The purpose of the wall is to prevent further erosion of wages for working men and women like Marty Champions.  I'd like to see Marty Champions get a raise and that's not going to happen if he has to compete with illegals willing to work for half as much.  It may not save any money, but the increase in wages for the working class is real and needed.  It's ironic that the Democrats who claim to be looking out for the poor and working class don't see the logic in this and don't see the harm caused by illegals. 
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 01:46:44 PM
The purpose of the wall is to prevent further erosion of wages for working men and women like Marty Champions.  I'd like to see Marty Champions get a raise and that's not going to happen if he has to compete with illegals willing to work for half as much.  It may not save any money, but the increase in wages for the working class is real and needed.  It's ironic that the Democrats who claim to be looking out for the poor and working class don't see the logic in this and don't see the harm caused by illegals. 
It wouldn't increase shit.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Board_SHERIF on February 22, 2016, 01:52:21 PM
popophile of peace
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Palumboism on February 22, 2016, 02:04:42 PM
It wouldn't increase shit.

It might not, but it would prevent further erosion.  It's basic Economics.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 02:24:07 PM
It might not, but it would prevent further erosion.  It's basic Economics.
Any evidence to support your claim?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 22, 2016, 02:34:28 PM
Any evidence to support your claim?

lol at expecting getbiggers to present evidence.

Getbiggers are so smart, that we don't need to present evidence. You should take all getbiggers on their word. That is how smart they are!!  :D :D
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 02:37:10 PM
lol at expecting getbiggers to present evidence.

Getbiggers are so smart, that we don't need to present evidence. You should take all getbiggers on their word. That is how smart they are!!  :D :D
Maybe they just fear other members making fun of them for copy and pasting evidence.   :-\
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Palumboism on February 22, 2016, 02:41:19 PM
Any evidence to support your claim?

The law of supply and demand.  It states that that when the supply of an item goes up – all other factors being held constant – its price goes down. Applied to labor markets, this means that increasing the size of the labor force will tend to lower wages. And since the inception of mass immigration decades ago, the nation has witnessed significant stagnation of wage levels in terms of constant dollars.

(http://thefreeeconomy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Supply-and-Demand2.jpg)

http://www.capsweb.org/blog/party-elites-wage-war-wages (http://www.capsweb.org/blog/party-elites-wage-war-wages)

Do you really want to argue the point that flooding the labor market with illegal immigrants has lowered wages in many industries.



Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 02:45:14 PM
The law of supply and demand.  It states that that when the supply of an item goes up – all other factors being held constant – its price goes down. Applied to labor markets, this means that increasing the size of the labor force will tend to lower wages. And since the inception of mass immigration decades ago, the nation has witnessed significant stagnation of wage levels in terms of constant dollars.

(http://thefreeeconomy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Supply-and-Demand2.jpg)

http://www.capsweb.org/blog/party-elites-wage-war-wages (http://www.capsweb.org/blog/party-elites-wage-war-wages)

Do you really want to argue the point that flooding the labor market with illegal immigrants has lowered wages in many industries.




This has nothing to do with the efficacy of the wall in promoting higher wages among United States Citizens.

Again, where is your evidence that this will will directly contribute to the above?  You made the claim, I did not.  If you don't have any evidence, just say so.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 02:48:21 PM
The law of supply and demand.  It states that that when the supply of an item goes up – all other factors being held constant – its price goes down. Applied to labor markets, this means that increasing the size of the labor force will tend to lower wages. And since the inception of mass immigration decades ago, the nation has witnessed significant stagnation of wage levels in terms of constant dollars.

(http://thefreeeconomy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Supply-and-Demand2.jpg)

http://www.capsweb.org/blog/party-elites-wage-war-wages (http://www.capsweb.org/blog/party-elites-wage-war-wages)

Do you really want to argue the point that flooding the labor market with illegal immigrants has lowered wages in many industries.




Your statistics are meaningless as well because you first have to identify how many jobs you are sure that illegal immigrants are "taking away" from Americans and what kind of jobs they are rather than applying your graph to the entire US job market.  Your clean linear equation will never address that.

Not that it matters, since you have no evidence that building some dumbass wall will have any effect on anything.  Maybe it will keep coyotes and rattlesnakes out.  A lot to spend for that.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 02:50:31 PM
The law of supply and demand.  It states that that when the supply of an item goes up – all other factors being held constant – its price goes down. Applied to labor markets, this means that increasing the size of the labor force will tend to lower wages. And since the inception of mass immigration decades ago, the nation has witnessed significant stagnation of wage levels in terms of constant dollars.

(http://thefreeeconomy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Supply-and-Demand2.jpg)

http://www.capsweb.org/blog/party-elites-wage-war-wages (http://www.capsweb.org/blog/party-elites-wage-war-wages)

Do you really want to argue the point that flooding the labor market with illegal immigrants has lowered wages in many industries.




Not that it matters, but there is NO SOURCE for that graph from the link you posted.

 :-\
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 22, 2016, 02:56:33 PM
Maybe they just fear other members making fun of them for copy and pasting evidence.   :-\

Yes, what people don't realize is that NO ONE has an original thought or idea. Everyone gets their information from somewhere--journal articles, books, news, social media. So, while people may not directly copy and paste evidence, they are still copying and pasting their evidence from somewhere.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Immortal_Technique on February 22, 2016, 03:06:45 PM
but there is a wall all around the vatican and a 50 mile long secret library that only a select few can access if lucky

haha what a fuckin fagget boy i love classic heme iron bald head grey hair reasoning

Name a wall that is historically positive/good.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Tapeworm on February 22, 2016, 03:14:23 PM
Name a wall that is historically positive/good.

Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: OB1 on February 22, 2016, 03:17:03 PM
Yes, what people don't realize is that NO ONE has an original thought or idea. Everyone gets their information from somewhere--journal articles, books, news, social media. So, while people may not directly copy and paste evidence, they are still copying and pasting their evidence from somewhere.

QFT
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 03:17:18 PM
I wonder why Republicans (who are champion states rights only when convenient), want the Federal Government to come in and spend billions on building and then maintaining a wall as a money suck for decades to come.

Why not let States Rights do this one as well?  If a state wants a wall, let each state build one.  ROFLMAO!
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: OB1 on February 22, 2016, 03:18:30 PM
Name a wall that is historically positive/good.

Vagina wall(s).
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 03:20:21 PM
QFT

Why are you QFTing?

You are part of the copy+paste police.

(http://www.greatamericanclowncompany.com/images/littlepeople1.jpg)
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: OB1 on February 22, 2016, 03:22:26 PM
Why are you QFTing?

Why do you think?

You are part of the copy+paste police.

Bullshit.

Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 22, 2016, 03:30:00 PM
Why are you QFTing?

You are part of the copy+paste police.

(http://www.greatamericanclowncompany.com/images/littlepeople1.jpg)

Everyone copies and pastes. Either you copy and paste an article you read or you copy and paste from whats in your brain from something you read on facebook lol. Both are exactly the same. I have absolutely no problem with copying and pasting evidence from peer-reviewed journals. Id rather do that than post evidence from social media.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: obsidian on February 22, 2016, 03:34:28 PM
Everyone copies and pastes. Either you copy and paste an article you read or you copy and paste from whats in your brain from something you read on facebook lol. Both are exactly the same. I have absolutely no problem with copying and pasting evidence from peer-reviewed journals. Id rather do that than post evidence from social media.
Yet Social Media might sometimes be closer to the truth? You can't trust the MSM anymore. It is just propaganda day and night, with some truth sprinkled in between.

The pope is clearly batting for the same team as Merkel. They are all answering to their globalist masters.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 22, 2016, 05:10:42 PM
Maybe they just fear other members making fun of them for copy and pasting evidence.   :-\

Butthurt Phaggot with Mantits.....table for one.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Palumboism on February 22, 2016, 06:19:18 PM
I wonder why Republicans (who are champion states rights only when convenient), want the Federal Government to come in and spend billions on building and then maintaining a wall as a money suck for decades to come.

Why not let States Rights do this one as well?  If a state wants a wall, let each state build one.  ROFLMAO!

If Texas builds a wall, but New Mexico doesn't, does that still keep illegals out of Texas?  What other good ideas do you have?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 22, 2016, 06:26:48 PM
I wonder why Republicans (who are champion states rights only when convenient), want the Federal Government to come in and spend billions on building and then maintaining a wall as a money suck for decades to come.

Why not let States Rights do this one as well?  If a state wants a wall, let each state build one.  ROFLMAO!

The money we would save on social programs, welfare, educational and medical systems by stopping illegal immigration would pay for the wall 1,000 times over

The idea the U.S. couldn't fund and build the wall is Liberal bullshit
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 06:29:16 PM
The money we would save on social programs, welfare, educational and medical systems by stopping illegal immigration would pay for the wall 1,000 times over

The idea the U.S. couldn't fund and build the wall is Liberal bullshit
O really?  ???

The U.S. Social Security Administration estimated that in 2013 undocumented immigrants—and their employers—paid $13 billion in payroll taxes alone for benefits they will never get. They can receive schooling and emergency medical care, but not welfare or food stamps.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: _aj_ on February 22, 2016, 06:29:35 PM
I wonder why Republicans (who are champion states rights only when convenient), want the Federal Government to come in and spend billions on building and then maintaining a wall as a money suck for decades to come.

Why not let States Rights do this one as well?  If a state wants a wall, let each state build one.  ROFLMAO!

Article 4, Section 4, dipshit. Look it up.

A wall would severely dampen the democrat's plan to import enough voters to overcome the fact that progressives have aborted themselves into extinction. Keep it up.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 06:34:49 PM
The money we would save on social programs, welfare, educational and medical systems by stopping illegal immigration would pay for the wall 1,000 times over

The idea the U.S. couldn't fund and build the wall is Liberal bullshit
http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/20/news/economy/immigration-myths/

Myth # 1: They don't pay taxes

Undocumented immigrants are already U.S. taxpayers.

Collectively, they paid an estimated $10.6 billion to state and local taxes in 2010, according to the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP), a research organization that works on tax policy issues. Contributions varied by state. In Montana they contributed $2 million. In California, more than $2.2 billion. On average they pay about 6.4% of their income in state and local taxes, ITEP said.

A 2007 Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report on the impact of undocumented immigrants on the budgets of local and state governments cited IRS figures showing that 50% to 75% of the about 11 million unauthorized U.S. immigrants file and pay income taxes each year.

Myth # 2: They don't pay into Social Security

The truth is that undocumented immigrants contribute more in payroll taxes than they will ever consume in public benefits.

Take Social Security. According to the Social Security Administration (SSA), unauthorized immigrants -- who are not eligible to receive Social Security benefits -- have paid an eye-popping $100 billion into the fund over the past decade.

"They are paying an estimated $15 billion a year into Social Security with no intention of ever collecting benefits," Stephen Goss, chief actuary of the SSA told CNNMoney. "Without the estimated 3.1 million undocumented immigrants paying into the system, Social Security would have entered persistent shortfall of tax revenue to cover payouts starting in 2009," he said.

 Myth #3: They drain the system

Undocumented immigrants do not qualify for welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and most other public benefits. Most of these programs require proof of legal immigration status and under the 1996 welfare law, even legal immigrants cannot receive these benefits until they have been in the United States for more than five years.


 Myth # 4: They take American jobs

The American economy needs immigrant workers.

The belief that immigrants take jobs that can otherwise be filled by hard-working Americans has been disputed by an overwhelming number of economic research studies and data.


Removing the approximately 8 million unauthorized workers in the United States would not automatically create 8 million job openings for unemployed Americans, said Daniel Griswold, director of the Cato Institute's Center for Trade Policy Studies, in his 2011 testimony before the House Judiciary Sub-committee on Immigration Policy and Enforcement.

The reason, according to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, is two-fold. For one, removing millions of undocumented workers from the economy would also remove millions of entrepreneurs, consumers and taxpayers. The economy would actually lose jobs. Second, native-born workers and immigrant workers tend to possess different skills that often complement one another.

According to Griswold, immigrants, regardless of status, fill the growing gap between expanding low-skilled jobs and the shrinking pool of native-born Americans who are willing to take such jobs. By facilitating the growth of such sectors as retail, agriculture, landscaping, restaurants, and hotels, low-skilled immigrants have enabled those sectors to expand, attract investment, and create middle-class jobs in management, design and engineering, bookkeeping, marketing and other areas that employ U.S. citizens.

America's unions support the president's executive action. "For far too long, our broken immigration system has allowed employers to drive down wages and working conditions in our country," the AFL-CIO says on its website. "The brunt of the impact has been born by immigrant workers, who face the highest rates of wage theft, sexual harassment, and death and injury on the job."
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 06:36:37 PM
Article 4, Section 4, dipshit. Look it up.

A wall would severely dampen the democrat's plan to import enough voters to overcome the fact that progressives have aborted themselves into extinction. Keep it up.
???

Section 4.

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 06:37:48 PM
Getbiggers getting all mad about politics lol
I can't believe how dumb the voters have gotten.  Look how these people conduct themselves.  No facts, no evidence, no data.  They just make stuff up.  Its crazy town.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 22, 2016, 06:45:26 PM
O really?  ???

The U.S. Social Security Administration estimated that in 2013 undocumented immigrants—and their employers—paid $13 billion in payroll taxes alone for benefits they will never get. They can receive schooling and emergency medical care, but not welfare or food stamps.

Well Bitchtits.......then there is the first $13 billion toward building the wall.

Have that fucker paid off in no time!

Now garnish all money transfers from the U.S. to Mexico unless there is a legitimate SSN involved from the sender!

And limit the number of dependents the illegals claim on their W-2 to limit their tax exposure.

Most importantly.....deport all 36,000,000 of them. Wipe out the teat sucking liberal voting base for decades to come
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 06:50:14 PM
Well Bitchtits.......then there is the first $13 billion toward building the wall.

Have that fucker paid off in no time!

Now garnish all money transfers from the U.S. to Mexico unless there is a legitimate SSN involved from the sender!

And limit the number of dependents the illegals claim on their W-2 to limit their tax exposure.

Most importantly.....deport all 36,000,000 of them. Wipe out the teat sucking liberal voting base for decades to come
Do you even math?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/03/the-conservative-case-against-enforcing-immigration-laws/387004/

The study, which the American Action Forum plans to publish later on Friday, tests a rather straightforward proposition frequently offered by opponents of comprehensive immigration reform: How much would it cost to "immediately and fully enforce current law"—that is, to deport all undocumented immigrants while preventing another wave of people from entering illegally?

The answer, researchers found, is quite a lot, both to taxpayers and the economy more broadly. Removing all 11.2 million undocumented immigrants, both forcibly and through Mitt Romney's infamous "self-deportation" policy, would take about 20 years and cost the government between $400 billion and $600 billion. The impact on the economy would be even larger, according to the study: Real GDP would drop by nearly $1.6 trillion and the policy would shave 5.7 percent off economic growth. Researchers Laura Collins and Ben Gitis also write that their estimates are conservative, since they do not include, for example, the cost of constructing new courts, prisons, and other buildings that might be needed to process and detain millions of immigrants.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 22, 2016, 06:51:04 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/20/news/economy/immigration-myths/

Myth # 1: They don't pay taxes

Undocumented immigrants are already U.S. taxpayers.

Collectively, they paid an estimated $10.6 billion to state and local taxes in 2010, according to the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP), a research organization that works on tax policy issues. Contributions varied by state. In Montana they contributed $2 million. In California, more than $2.2 billion. On average they pay about 6.4% of their income in state and local taxes, ITEP said.

A 2007 Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report on the impact of undocumented immigrants on the budgets of local and state governments cited IRS figures showing that 50% to 75% of the about 11 million unauthorized U.S. immigrants file and pay income taxes each year.

Myth # 2: They don't pay into Social Security

The truth is that undocumented immigrants contribute more in payroll taxes than they will ever consume in public benefits.

Take Social Security. According to the Social Security Administration (SSA), unauthorized immigrants -- who are not eligible to receive Social Security benefits -- have paid an eye-popping $100 billion into the fund over the past decade.

"They are paying an estimated $15 billion a year into Social Security with no intention of ever collecting benefits," Stephen Goss, chief actuary of the SSA told CNNMoney. "Without the estimated 3.1 million undocumented immigrants paying into the system, Social Security would have entered persistent shortfall of tax revenue to cover payouts starting in 2009," he said.

 Myth #3: They drain the system

Undocumented immigrants do not qualify for welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, and most other public benefits. Most of these programs require proof of legal immigration status and under the 1996 welfare law, even legal immigrants cannot receive these benefits until they have been in the United States for more than five years.


 Myth # 4: They take American jobs

The American economy needs immigrant workers.

The belief that immigrants take jobs that can otherwise be filled by hard-working Americans has been disputed by an overwhelming number of economic research studies and data.


Removing the approximately 8 million unauthorized workers in the United States would not automatically create 8 million job openings for unemployed Americans, said Daniel Griswold, director of the Cato Institute's Center for Trade Policy Studies, in his 2011 testimony before the House Judiciary Sub-committee on Immigration Policy and Enforcement.

The reason, according to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, is two-fold. For one, removing millions of undocumented workers from the economy would also remove millions of entrepreneurs, consumers and taxpayers. The economy would actually lose jobs. Second, native-born workers and immigrant workers tend to possess different skills that often complement one another.

According to Griswold, immigrants, regardless of status, fill the growing gap between expanding low-skilled jobs and the shrinking pool of native-born Americans who are willing to take such jobs. By facilitating the growth of such sectors as retail, agriculture, landscaping, restaurants, and hotels, low-skilled immigrants have enabled those sectors to expand, attract investment, and create middle-class jobs in management, design and engineering, bookkeeping, marketing and other areas that employ U.S. citizens.

America's unions support the president's executive action. "For far too long, our broken immigration system has allowed employers to drive down wages and working conditions in our country," the AFL-CIO says on its website. "The brunt of the impact has been born by immigrant workers, who face the highest rates of wage theft, sexual harassment, and death and injury on the job."

Bitchtits.....you shoot yourself right in the training bra when every one of your sources is inaccurate and can't even agree on how many illegals live here!

Not undocumented workers.....illegals and criminals!
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 06:52:03 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/08/news/economy/deportation-by-the-numbers/

Each deportation costs about $23,000 to complete, including the apprehension, legal process, and eventual removal.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 22, 2016, 06:55:58 PM
Do you even math?

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/03/the-conservative-case-against-enforcing-immigration-laws/387004/

The study, which the American Action Forum plans to publish later on Friday, tests a rather straightforward proposition frequently offered by opponents of comprehensive immigration reform: How much would it cost to "immediately and fully enforce current law"—that is, to deport all undocumented immigrants while preventing another wave of people from entering illegally?

The answer, researchers found, is quite a lot, both to taxpayers and the economy more broadly. Removing all 11.2 million undocumented immigrants, both forcibly and through Mitt Romney's infamous "self-deportation" policy, would take about 20 years and cost the government between $400 billion and $600 billion. The impact on the economy would be even larger, according to the study: Real GDP would drop by nearly $1.6 trillion and the policy would shave 5.7 percent off economic growth. Researchers Laura Collins and Ben Gitis also write that their estimates are conservative, since they do not include, for example, the cost of constructing new courts, prisons, and other buildings that might be needed to process and detain millions of immigrants.

"researchers estimate".......in other words, a wild ass fucking guess.

Weak excuses by weak people who want someone else to pay for their disregard for the law.

In this brilliant analysis how is the value for the reduction in crime, murder, sexual assaults, major drug offenses, and bankrupting of our medical and education systems determined?

You've posted a biased estimate like it is truth. You really are a retard with tits....
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 22, 2016, 06:59:16 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2014/09/08/news/economy/deportation-by-the-numbers/

Each deportation costs about $23,000 to complete, including the apprehension, legal process, and eventual removal.

Small change compared to the damage the illegals do to the economy.

Deport, seize their assets, and auction off their belongings.

You would break even without taking into account the removal of the drain on our social programs.

Moobs.....you need to stop now, you really are a fucking one track mind retard.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 22, 2016, 07:00:44 PM
"researchers estimate".......in other words, a wild ass fucking guess.

Weak excuses by weak people who want someone else to pay for their disregard for the law.

In this brilliant analysis how is the value for the reduction in crime, murder, sexual assaults, major drug offenses, and bankrupting of our medical and education systems determined?

You've posted a biased estimate like it is truth. You really are a retard with tits....

Walter, research is never 100% accurate. Researchers ESTIMATE that the world is roughly 4.something billion years old, but it cant ever say, "The world is exactly 4.1849232 billion years old." Research is not a perfect process. It depends if youre using a .05, .01, or .001 confidence interval. Their estimate is probably close enough to give a general depiction.

ps - I have no say in this argument, just providing you an answer from a research-based perspective.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 07:02:23 PM
Walter, research is never 100% accurate. Researchers ESTIMATE that the world is roughly 4.something billion years old, but it cant ever say, "The world is exactly 4.1849232 billion years old." Research is not a perfect process. It depends if youre using a .05, .01, or .001 confidence interval. Their estimate is probably close enough to give a general depiction.

ps - I have no say in this argument, just providing you an answer from a research-based perspective.
He does not even realize that the study was conducted by Douglas Holtz-Eakin.

Economist
Douglas J. "Doug" Holtz-Eakin is an American economist. He was formerly an economics professor, Director of the Congressional Budget Office, and chief economic policy adviser to U.S. Senator John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: skillz on February 22, 2016, 07:03:13 PM
In California they get WIC so I'm sure they get welfare or some other form of help. My wife's grandmother came here from Mexico in her 70's and she had government housing for years. She recently passed away at 104. She never paid into social security since she never had a job.  
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 07:03:34 PM
The American Action Forum is not some fringe group; it is well-entrenched in the establishment camp. Holtz-Eakin is a leading Republican economist who advised John McCain's presidential campaign in 2008. In 2013, he released a paper arguing that comprehensive reform would boost economic growth and reduce long-term deficits by $2.5 trillion. The group's board includes Michael Chertoff, the former homeland security secretary who helped lead President George W. Bush's immigration-reform push in 2006 and 2007. It also includes Elaine Chao, the labor secretary in the Bush administration and the wife of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 22, 2016, 07:13:18 PM
He does not even realize that the study was conducted by Douglas Holtz-Eakin.

Economist
Douglas J. "Doug" Holtz-Eakin is an American economist. He was formerly an economics professor, Director of the Congressional Budget Office, and chief economic policy adviser to U.S. Senator John McCain's 2008 presidential campaign.

I understand how estimates are put together, and skewed, to make the author's point.

I could post analyses (FAIR etc) that estimate illegals could cost US Taxpayers in excess of $100 billion dollars a year. Over $100 billion a year bitchtits - that is a lot of obamaphones for Tyrone!!!!!!

I'm absolutely certain I understand how research and estimates are carried out.

The cost estimates posted only measure the fiscal cost, which weighs government spending (such as on public schools, medical care, incarceration and unemployment benefits) against government income (from income, property and sales taxes.) Anyone making this type of analysis can only make rough estimates, since it's almost impossible to gather accurate data about illegal residents.

either way, the upside is.....economists rarely have C-Cup bitchtits.

Bitchtits....
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 22, 2016, 07:15:40 PM
In California they get WIC so I'm sure they get welfare or some other form of help. My wife's grandmother came here from Mexico in her 70's and she had government housing for years. She recently passed away at 104. She never paid into social security since she never had a job.  

Good Sir.....Mr. Bitchtits has never traveled more than a few miles outside his backwater Carolina hovel, so he must depend on Wikipedia for his worldly perspective
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 22, 2016, 07:16:34 PM
I understand how estimates are put together, and skewed, to make the author's point.

I could post analyses (FAIR etc) that estimate illegals could cost US Taxpayers in excess of $100 billion dollars a year. Over $100 billion a year bitchtits - that is a lot of obamaphones for Tyrone!!!!!!

I'm absolutely certain I understand how research and estimates are carried out.

The cost estimates posted only measure the fiscal cost, which weighs government spending (such as on public schools, medical care, incarceration and unemployment benefits) against government income (from income, property and sales taxes.) Anyone making this type of analysis can only make rough estimates, since it's almost impossible to gather accurate data about illegal residents.

either way, the upside is.....economists rarely have C-Cup bitchtits.

Bitchtits....

So, then how do you ever come to a conclusion regarding any debate? There are HARDLY ever any absolute certainties in research.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 22, 2016, 07:18:31 PM
Good Sir.....Mr. Bitchtits has never traveled more than a few miles outside his backwater Carolina hovel, so he must depend on Wikipedia for his worldly perspective

If you think research is biased, worldly perspectives based on anecdotal evidence are even more biased. Humans are biased creatures. Research tries to fill that subjectivity gap. I am not too sure I'd trust someones worldly perspective either.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 22, 2016, 07:22:25 PM
So, then how do you ever come to a conclusion regarding any debate? There are HARDLY ever any absolute certainties in research.

Do you base all debate on mathematical estimates of cost or solely on numerical analysis?

If you want "absolute" certainties, you would have to refine the analysis until the uncertainty is removed.

And that would be a fool's errand in most if not all instances.

But hey.....knock yourself out if you have to live in a world of absolutes.

Your question has sweet fuck all to do with the > $100,000,000,000 burden illegals put on US Taxpayers.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 22, 2016, 07:26:53 PM
Do you base all debate on mathematical estimates of cost or solely on numerical analysis?

If you want "absolute" certainties, you would have to refine the analysis until the uncertainty is removed.

And that would be a fool's errand in most if not all instances.

But hey.....knock yourself out if you have to live in a world of absolutes.

Your question has sweet fuck all to do with the > $100,000,000,000 burden illegals put on US Taxpayers.

Walter, I stated that there were  no absolute certainties in research. I acknowledged that we don't live in a world of absolute certainties, hence why I said there are HARDLY any absolute certainties.

Well, no my question has to do with illegal immigrants because the research says one thing, and you choose to ignore the research. Thus, I am asking what evidence would convince you, since there are never no absolute certainties in research. What amount of evidence would you need to change your opinion regarding illegal immigrants? I suspect even if the evidence was overwhelming, you still would not change your opinion. No one likes to be wrong.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 22, 2016, 07:27:54 PM
If you think research is biased, worldly perspectives based on anecdotal evidence are even more biased. Humans are biased creatures. Research tries to fill that subjectivity gap. I am not too sure I'd trust someones worldly perspective either.

You've abandoned "absolutes"!

So how do illegals that don't "drain the system" (in any way in an absolute sense) collect WIC?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 22, 2016, 07:31:23 PM
Walter, I stated that there were  no absolute certainties in research. I acknowledged that we don't live in a world of absolute certainties, hence why I said there are HARDLY any absolute certainties.

Well, no my question has to do with illegal immigrants because the research says one thing, and you choose to ignore the research. Thus, I am asking what evidence would convince you, since there are never no absolute certainties in research. What amount of evidence would you need to change your opinion regarding illegal immigrants? I suspect even if the evidence was overwhelming, you still would not change your opinion. No one likes to be wrong.

Too easy.....

The empirical evidence of the effect illegal immigration has had on states like California.

Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: TuHolmes on February 22, 2016, 07:33:17 PM
Too easy.....

The empirical evidence of the effect illegal immigration has had on states like California.



California has the biggest economy in the US.

It's like 7th largest in the world... Using California as a determination of how bad it is, is not very good and doesn't really fall in line with what you're saying.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 22, 2016, 07:35:28 PM
You've abandoned "absolutes"!

So how do illegals that don't "drain the system" (in any way in an absolute sense) collect WIC?

There are no such thing as absolutes. I said that above.

I don't know. Show me the evidence and I will read it. TA presented evidence. You said you don't agree with that evidence. Okay, thats fine. But I am not an expert on this stuff, nor do I actually read anything about it. Thus, I am open to any evidence you're willing to present, since my knowledge about this topic is extremely limited.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 22, 2016, 08:10:07 PM
California has the biggest economy in the US.

It's like 7th largest in the world... Using California as a determination of how bad it is, is not very good and doesn't really fall in line with what you're saying.

Really?

So illegals can bring the 7th largest and prosperous economy in the world to its knees, but that isn't a good example?

Ooooooookay....
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 22, 2016, 08:13:53 PM
There are no such thing as absolutes. I said that above.

I don't know. Show me the evidence and I will read it. TA presented evidence. You said you don't agree with that evidence. Okay, thats fine. But I am not an expert on this stuff, nor do I actually read anything about it. Thus, I am open to any evidence you're willing to present, since my knowledge about this topic is extremely limited.

Who the fuck died and made you board arbitrator?

It's not hard to find studies on both sides of "impact of illegals on the economy".

Google that shit like Adam Bitchtits does, just try a little harder to comprehend it than he does.

Because that poor fucker makes Shizzo feel good about himself
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 22, 2016, 08:14:49 PM
I just love it when people have opinions based on little to no data.  Really makes their arguments carry weight.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 22, 2016, 08:18:13 PM
Who the fuck died and made you board arbitrator?

It's not hard to find studies on both sides of "impact of illegals on the economy".

Google that shit like Adam Bitchtits does, just try a little harder to comprehend it than he does.

Because that poor fucker makes Shizzo feel good about himself

Shizzo did.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 22, 2016, 08:19:17 PM
I just love it when people have opinions based on little to no data.  Really makes their arguments carry weight.

Who are you talking to Tits?

You and your gimmicks?

Or in your mind do you think your Cut & Paste posting has an audience?

Tits....
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 22, 2016, 08:21:06 PM
Shizzo did.


Shit..............AGAIN?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: _bruce_ on February 22, 2016, 08:21:38 PM
Too little too late.
Trump sounds great and should be given a chance but I think at the US's current stage it's just damage control... nothing more. More power to him... maybe there's some crazy in him that makes him go against standardized politics successfully.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Yamcha on February 23, 2016, 02:28:22 AM
So do we like Mexicans or not?  ???
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Tapeworm on February 23, 2016, 02:57:09 AM
I just love it when people have opinions based on little to no data.  Really makes their arguments carry weight.

There's no appeal to be made to data in this case.  They entered the country illegally and are living and working in it illegally.

I still like my giant slingshot idea.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Papper on February 23, 2016, 03:18:32 AM
the devil (pope) also said that trump ain't christian.

Yeah no shit he isn't christian, neither is obama, neither is anyone. Listen to obama's pro muslim/islam rants, he also said that america is no longer a christian country, but the pope is all goodie goodie with obama.

The only reason the pope is against trump is because trump is supposedly against the game... you know what game i'm talking about. If pope is against someone, the someone is usually good or at lest one of the lesser bads.

I am not very educated in American politics or so, but I have wondered about Barack Obama Hussein guy lately. There is an old saying, if it walks like a duck ... is he a muslim for real?

After 9/11 I would think America would never vote in a guy who even expressed the slightest sympathy towards Islam and all that jazz, but the people of the USA obviously trust him bigtime, voting for him twice...

Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Yamcha on February 23, 2016, 03:20:53 AM
I am not very educated in American politics or so, but I have wondered about Barack Obama Hussein guy lately. There is an old saying, if it walks like a duck ... is he a muslim for real?

After 9/11 I would think America would never vote in a guy who even expressed the slightest sympathy towards Islam and all that jazz, but the people entire Hebrew race, other minorities, and those who feel white guilt, obviously trust him, voting for him twice...


Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Papper on February 23, 2016, 03:25:57 AM


hahaha I see

the old white guilt. never felt it myself.

Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Yamcha on February 23, 2016, 05:25:55 AM
(https://media.tumblr.com/8f225154fcbd525eb0d348df0d2d5345/tumblr_nvonddNOiy1u5alcyo1_400.gif)
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: falco on February 23, 2016, 05:33:26 AM
but there is a wall all around the vatican and a 50 mile long secret library that only a select few can access if lucky

haha what a fuckin fagget boy i love classic heme iron bald head grey hair reasoning

Can someone translate this to getbigers whose english is not their first language?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: OB1 on February 23, 2016, 06:11:02 AM
Can someone translate this to getbigers whose english is not their first language?


mais il y a un mur tout autour du Vatican et une longue bibliothèque secrète de 50 mile que seuls quelques privilégiés peuvent accéder si la chance

haha ce un garçon putain fagget i aime fer hémique classique tête chauve cheveux gris raisonnement

Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Palumboism on February 23, 2016, 02:39:41 PM
Your statistics are meaningless as well because you first have to identify how many jobs you are sure that illegal immigrants are "taking away" from Americans and what kind of jobs they are rather than applying your graph to the entire US job market.  Your clean linear equation will never address that.

Not that it matters, since you have no evidence that building some dumbass wall will have any effect on anything.  Maybe it will keep coyotes and rattlesnakes out.  A lot to spend for that.

Yes it will keep coyotes and rattlesnakes and millions of illegal immigrants.   

My source for the supply demand curve is the the inventor of the concept, John Stuart Mill.  he wrote his Principles of Political Economy in 1848 with the particular interest of how labor markets are affected by supply and demand.  Luckily, his entire work is available online.

http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/101 (http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/101)

Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 23, 2016, 02:43:32 PM
Yes it will keep coyotes and rattlesnakes and millions of illegal immigrants.   

My source for the supply demand curve is the the inventor of the concept, John Stuart Mill.  he wrote his Principles of Political Economy in 1848 with the particular interest of how labor markets are affected by supply and demand.  Luckily, his entire work is available online.

http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/101 (http://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/101)


Yes, lets apply 19th century economic theory to support building a giant, useless wall.   :)
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: _aj_ on February 23, 2016, 03:25:28 PM
Yes, lets apply 19th century economic theory to support building a giant, useless wall.   :)

Poor retort: 0/10
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: _aj_ on February 23, 2016, 03:28:28 PM
So the Progressive Retard Caucus on Getbig says that Trump won't build a wall. Because reasons. And then they say that even if he did build a wall, it wouldn't matter because apparently Mexican illegals can dispparate through walls. OK, Retard Caucus, you've convinced me!
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 23, 2016, 03:36:42 PM
lol at all the republicans melting down because they are scared Trump may not build his wall.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: OB1 on February 23, 2016, 03:37:03 PM
lol at all the republicans melting down because they are scared Trump may not build his wall.  :D :D :D

LOL.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: _aj_ on February 23, 2016, 03:38:42 PM
lol at all the republicans melting down because they are scared Trump may not build his wall.  :D :D :D

LOL at the proggies melting because they know he will.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 23, 2016, 03:39:27 PM
LOL.


You can see how angry they are getting. Cursing, melting down, insults, etc.  :D :D

All I did was state that I don't think it will happen. Not because its impossible, but given Americas current climate, Trump would get too much push back. It most likely would not come to pass. The political backlash would be too much for a politician to deal with. They don't want to have the headache.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 23, 2016, 03:43:18 PM
I am not very educated in American politics or so, but I have wondered about Barack Obama Hussein guy lately. There is an old saying, if it walks like a duck ... is he a muslim for real?

After 9/11 I would think America would never vote in a guy who even expressed the slightest sympathy towards Islam and all that jazz, but the people of the USA obviously trust him bigtime, voting for him twice...



I didn't even vote for him once. I've voted ONE time in my life, and it was not for Obama. I voted Independent. I don't even know if Im allowed to vote any more lol. Do you have to update voting information? I don't plan on voting any time soon.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: _aj_ on February 23, 2016, 03:44:34 PM
I didn't even vote for him once. I've voted ONE time in my life, and it was not for Obama. I voted Independent. I don't even know if Im allowed to vote any more lol. Do you have to update voting information? I don't plan on voting any time soon.

Who is "independent?" I don't remember that guy running.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: drkaje on February 23, 2016, 03:46:23 PM
What about a wall to keep out refuges immigrated into Canada?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 23, 2016, 03:48:05 PM
(https://media.tumblr.com/8f225154fcbd525eb0d348df0d2d5345/tumblr_nvonddNOiy1u5alcyo1_400.gif)

haha, that would be awesome if he really did that.

Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: SF1900 on February 23, 2016, 03:50:41 PM
What about a wall to keep out refuges immigrated into Canada?

Should start with a wall to keep out this person

(http://i.imgur.com/qPn6CtJ.png)
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 23, 2016, 03:53:32 PM
ROFLMAO when you ask Trump supporters what his plans are, the only thing they say is:

"deeee He gonnna build a wall to keep Mexicans out that steal my computer job and my boyfriend's bank teller job"

Pathetic.

Oh and,

"he gonna make America great again, like that one time that it was great"
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: drkaje on February 23, 2016, 03:58:14 PM
No one gullible enough to believe he'd building a wall should be allowed to vote.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: OB1 on February 23, 2016, 04:03:22 PM
No one gullible enough to believe he'd building a wall voting will change anything should be allowed to vote.

Fixed.

Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: _aj_ on February 23, 2016, 04:21:24 PM
Haha! Libs losing it! The wall is coming and those millions of new democrats you were counting on ARE NOT COMING. Hahahahaaahaha!
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 23, 2016, 04:28:53 PM
ROFLMAO when you ask Trump supporters what his plans are, the only thing they say is:

"deeee He gonnna build a wall to keep Mexicans out that steal my computer job and my boyfriend's bank teller job"

Pathetic.

Oh and,

"he gonna make America great again, like that one time that it was great"

The wall is to keep Mexicans out so communist Bernie Sanders can't try to get his hands on their money to give to Tyrone!

Say it after me.......PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP!!!!!!
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: TuHolmes on February 23, 2016, 04:30:21 PM
Haha! Libs losing it! The wall is coming and those millions of new democrats you were counting on ARE NOT COMING. Hahahahaaahaha!

Do you truly believe this? You truly believe the US is going to build a wall between the US and mexico?

Can I ask why?

You know the largest increase of illegal immigrants are not Hispanic at all and are in fact, of Asian decent? So when they wall is done and the Asians continue to come in illegally, then are we building a Wall between us and the Pacific Ocean? Us and Canada? You want a wall around the entire country?

It's quite stupid actually.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Grape Ape on February 23, 2016, 04:31:53 PM
Do you truly believe this? You truly believe the US is going to build a wall between the US and mexico?

Can I ask why?

You know the largest increase of illegal immigrants are not Hispanic at all and are in fact, of Asian decent? So when they wall is done and the Asians continue to come in illegally, then are we building a Wall between us and the Pacific Ocean? Us and Canada? You want a wall around the entire country?

It's quite stupid actually.

Real question - where are the massive amount of illegal Asians entering the country?  I honestly don't know.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: _aj_ on February 23, 2016, 04:32:14 PM
Do you truly believe this? You truly believe the US is going to build a wall between the US and mexico?

Can I ask why?

You know the largest increase of illegal immigrants are not Hispanic at all and are in fact, of Asian decent? So when they wall is done and the Asians continue to come in illegally, then are we building a Wall between us and the Pacific Ocean? Us and Canada? You want a wall around the entire country?

It's quite stupid actually.

We will start with the b-e-a-n-e-r-s and move on the the rest of the illegal garbage later.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 23, 2016, 04:33:31 PM
Do you truly believe this? You truly believe the US is going to build a wall between the US and mexico?

Can I ask why?

You know the largest increase of illegal immigrants are not Hispanic at all and are in fact, of Asian decent? So when they wall is done and the Asians continue to come in illegally, then are we building a Wall between us and the Pacific Ocean? Us and Canada? You want a wall around the entire country?

It's quite stupid actually.

Can you cite a reliable, unbiased source for your illegal immigration stats?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: _aj_ on February 23, 2016, 04:34:16 PM
Can you cite a reliable, unbiased source for your illegal immigration stats?

Here comes the Puffington Host.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Tapeworm on February 23, 2016, 04:36:32 PM
Do you truly believe this? You truly believe the US is going to build a wall between the US and mexico?

Can I ask why?

You know the largest increase of illegal immigrants are not Hispanic at all and are in fact, of Asian decent? So when they wall is done and the Asians continue to come in illegally, then are we building a Wall between us and the Pacific Ocean? Us and Canada? You want a wall around the entire country?

It's quite stupid actually.

Real question - where are the massive amount of illegal Asians entering the country?  I honestly don't know.

Know any loofing contwactors?  Do they do good work?  
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 23, 2016, 04:38:12 PM
Here comes the Puffington Host.

Or worse.

As many as 36,000,000 illegals live in the US.

Liberals think if they keep saying 9 million or 11 million, that the outright lie will suddenly become real
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Grape Ape on February 23, 2016, 04:38:28 PM
Know any loofing contwactors?  Do they do good work?  

Watch it - I've loaded up on surgical tubing and I'm not afraid to use it.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: TuHolmes on February 23, 2016, 04:39:30 PM
Can you cite a reliable, unbiased source for your illegal immigration stats?

What would you consider reliable or "unbiased"?

Around here, if it doesn't agree with whatever narrative people want, it is biased or "not reliable".

I'm just saying what studies are showing. Pretty easy to look around.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Grape Ape on February 23, 2016, 04:40:27 PM

I'm just saying what studies are showing. Pretty easy to look around.

Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Tapeworm on February 23, 2016, 04:43:04 PM


(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/indianajones/images/c/cb/Musgrove.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070924224144)
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 23, 2016, 04:43:25 PM
What would you consider reliable or "unbiased"?

Around here, if it doesn't agree with whatever narrative people want, it is biased or "not reliable".

I'm just saying what studies are showing. Pretty easy to look around.

Okay.....how about Pew Research Center?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: TuHolmes on February 23, 2016, 04:44:19 PM
Okay.....how about Pew Research Center?

They also have stated that the Asian immigrant population is the largest increasing.

They show the numbers of the hispanic immigrant population actually lowering. More leaving than coming in.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Tapeworm on February 23, 2016, 04:45:17 PM
Musta finally gnawed a hole through the hull.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 23, 2016, 04:46:44 PM
They also have stated that the Asian immigrant population is the largest increasing.

They show the numbers of the hispanic immigrant population actually lowering. More leaving than coming in.

No.

Try again. Mexican decreasing, Central American increasing, Mexican still highest %.

Now try DHS Office of Immigration Statistics....
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: TuHolmes on February 23, 2016, 04:53:36 PM
No.

Try again. Mexican decreasing, Central American increasing, Mexican still highest %.

Now try DHS Office of Immigration Statistics....

Not percentage of total... I'm talking trend.

Asians are trending higher per year in percentages than others... So in the US, by some distant number, Asian illegals will become the highest number.

Not % of the total of immigrants today.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Palumboism on February 23, 2016, 05:15:01 PM
Yes, lets apply 19th century economic theory to support building a giant, useless wall.   :)

It's the same theory that's taught in every economics class in 2016.  I could have gone back to 1776 with Adam Smith's the Wealth of Nations.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Tapeworm on February 23, 2016, 05:16:33 PM
It's the same theory that's taught in every economics class in 2016.  I could have gone back to 1776 with Adam Smith's the Wealth of Nations.

(http://klipd.com/screenshots/a1f41243bb52a836b13c608cf95e431a-1.jpg)
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: chaos on February 23, 2016, 05:23:54 PM
The sneaky yellow man!!
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: mr.turbo on February 23, 2016, 05:26:15 PM
better chance of nibiru coming before that wall
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: TuHolmes on February 23, 2016, 05:28:54 PM
The sneaky yellow man!!

I know right?!

Slight of hand by the asian population.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 23, 2016, 05:35:14 PM
AHAHAH A wall.  What a solution.

Its like something you would see in Revenge of the Sith.  So fucking stupid.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 23, 2016, 05:59:22 PM
AHAHAH A wall.  What a solution.

Its like something you would see in Revenge of the Sith.  So fucking stupid.

Only thing dumber would be to let them all in just to garner votes....
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 23, 2016, 06:02:31 PM
Only thing dumber would be to let them all in just to garner votes....

Why not build a giant moat instead of a wall.  Seems like it would be cheaper and easier to maintain.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: _aj_ on February 23, 2016, 06:04:47 PM
Why not build a giant moat instead of a wall.  Seems like it would be cheaper and easier to maintain.

 ::)

Anything constructive? I didn't think so.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: drkaje on February 23, 2016, 06:05:08 PM
Why not build a giant moat instead of a wall.  Seems like it would be cheaper and easier to maintain.

Fill it with gators!!  :)
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 23, 2016, 06:07:32 PM
Fill it with gators!!  :)
Exactly.  You could even generate revenue off of it and have it protected federally as a National Wildlife Refuge.

Much better than wasting money on a wall.  God, people are fucking stupid.  You can't jump over a wide ass moat full of gators and you can't dig under it and I am sure it would be cheaper to construct and maintain.


AJ, why would be opposed to a giant moat of gators instead of a wall.  Seriously?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: _aj_ on February 23, 2016, 06:19:42 PM
Exactly.  You could even generate revenue off of it and have it protected federally as a National Wildlife Refuge.

Much better than wasting money on a wall.  God, people are fucking stupid.  You can't jump over a wide ass moat full of gators and you can't dig under it and I am sure it would be cheaper to construct and maintain.


AJ, why would be opposed to a giant moat of gators instead of a wall.  Seriously?

How about two walls with a moat in between?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: The True Adonis on February 23, 2016, 06:44:45 PM
How about two walls with a moat in between?
Build the moat first I'd say and call it a Wildlife Refuge.  That would make it much easier to get done. 
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: chaos on February 23, 2016, 07:02:15 PM
Exactly.  You could even generate revenue off of it and have it protected federally as a National Wildlife Refuge.

Much better than wasting money on a wall.  God, people are fucking stupid.  You can't jump over a wide ass moat full of gators and you can't dig under it and I am sure it would be cheaper to construct and maintain.


AJ, why would be opposed to a giant moat of gators instead of a wall.  Seriously?
I support this idea!
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 23, 2016, 07:10:09 PM
Why not build a giant moat instead of a wall.  Seems like it would be cheaper and easier to maintain.

Hey Tits, why does Uncle Bernie flap his arms when he talks?

Vertigo caused by senility?

Any idea Training Bra?
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: mr.turbo on February 23, 2016, 07:26:22 PM
Donald Trump’s Mexican Border Wall Is a Moronic Idea
The data show that fences don’t keep migrants out — they just keep them from going home.


Although the intent of border enforcement was to discourage migrants from coming to the United States, in practice it backfired, instead discouraging them from returning home to Mexico. Having experienced the risks and having paid the costs of gaining entry, undocumented men increasingly hunkered down and stayed in the United States, rather than circulating back to face the gauntlet once more. As a result, the rate of return migration began to fall after 1986 and accelerated with the launching of the border operations in 1993 and 1994.


http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:F2_rNfA3pP8J:foreignpolicy.com/2015/08/18/donald-trump-immigration-border/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Walter Sobchak on February 23, 2016, 07:34:00 PM
Donald Trump’s Mexican Border Wall Is a Moronic Idea
The data show that fences don’t keep migrants out — they just keep them from going home.


Although the intent of border enforcement was to discourage migrants from coming to the United States, in practice it backfired, instead discouraging them from returning home to Mexico. Having experienced the risks and having paid the costs of gaining entry, undocumented men increasingly hunkered down and stayed in the United States, rather than circulating back to face the gauntlet once more. As a result, the rate of return migration began to fall after 1986 and accelerated with the launching of the border operations in 1993 and 1994.


http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:F2_rNfA3pP8J:foreignpolicy.com/2015/08/18/donald-trump-immigration-border/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca



Horseshit....when the economy in CA, TX, NM, and AZ started to tank in 2008, those cockroaches scurried back to Mexico faster than a Shizzo blowjob
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: mr.turbo on February 23, 2016, 08:08:08 PM
Horseshit....when the economy in CA, TX, NM, and AZ started to tank in 2008, those cockroaches scurried back to Mexico faster than a Shizzo blowjob

the point is many more were reluctant in their scurrying due to the increased border controls. 
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: _aj_ on February 24, 2016, 05:08:36 AM
Donald Trump’s Mexican Border Wall Is a Moronic Idea
The data show that fences don’t keep migrants out — they just keep them from going home.


Although the intent of border enforcement was to discourage migrants from coming to the United States, in practice it backfired, instead discouraging them from returning home to Mexico. Having experienced the risks and having paid the costs of gaining entry, undocumented men increasingly hunkered down and stayed in the United States, rather than circulating back to face the gauntlet once more. As a result, the rate of return migration began to fall after 1986 and accelerated with the launching of the border operations in 1993 and 1994.


http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:F2_rNfA3pP8J:foreignpolicy.com/2015/08/18/donald-trump-immigration-border/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

Christ, the stupid shit you progressives tell yourselves to justify your idiotic positions is positively retarded. Zero critical thought.
Title: Re: the retard pope goes after trump about the wall
Post by: Yamcha on February 24, 2016, 05:14:36 AM
Put a cash bounty out on Mexican Scalps.
That'll do it.