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Title: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 21, 2006, 09:28:49 AM
Phil Heath?
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: HICKSON on March 21, 2006, 09:31:26 AM
240




Oh you said Pro in your question, I thought it said schmo...  :-\



Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: 240 is Back on March 21, 2006, 09:43:25 AM
240

I'm a monster in the gym.  I move more weight than Pablo Escobar with a Uhaul.


Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Chico_Holiday on March 21, 2006, 09:47:20 AM
None of the PROS train as hard as Adonis..........thats why he's the "World's 2nd Largest Natural Bodybuilder".........
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Dan-O on March 21, 2006, 09:48:08 AM
Phil Heath?

Probably.  That's why they call him "The Gift," because he only started training for bodybuilding a few short years ago and look at him now, whereas some guys (e.g. me) can train their whole life and still look like a pile of horse manure.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 21, 2006, 09:48:56 AM
So more reliance on drugs than training. I get it.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: LuciusFox on March 21, 2006, 09:51:30 AM
So more reliance on drugs than training. I get it.

 He has great genetics. Steroids only add 5%. They are nothing more than a finishing touch.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Dan-O on March 21, 2006, 09:51:52 AM
So more reliance on drugs than training. I get it.

That doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't train his ass off!  It just means that he is genetically gifted AND he probably responds well to drugs too.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 21, 2006, 09:53:45 AM
He has great genetics. Steroids only add 5%. They are nothing more than a finishing touch.

Oh I get it.  So if he didn`t use any drugs he would only be 5 percent less than he is.  That makes sense.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: natural al on March 21, 2006, 09:54:59 AM
None of the PROS train as hard as Adonis..........thats why he's the "World's 2nd Largest Natural Bodybuilder".........

I hope this was a joke cause if you really believe that you need to go jump off a bridge or something...
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 21, 2006, 09:57:13 AM
I hope this was a joke cause if you really believe that you need to go jump off a bridge or something...

Its not a joke.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: alexxx on March 21, 2006, 09:57:26 AM
I hope this was a joke cause if you really believe that you need to go jump off a bridge or something...

natural al sets low standarts so he can't be disapointed but still is. hahaha this little twerp can't weight more than 140 pounds of lard!
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: BroadStreetBruiser on March 21, 2006, 09:57:46 AM
Why would Adonis joke about being 2nd best. If he was joking he'd say the number 1. The dudes as big as Coleman
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Chico_Holiday on March 21, 2006, 10:08:38 AM
I hope this was a joke cause if you really believe that you need to go jump off a bridge or something...

Of course it's a joke..............don't mistake me for a member of "Team Adonis".......I'm bigger than the whole "team" combined.  LOL!
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: The True Adonis on March 21, 2006, 10:13:43 AM
Of course it's a joke..............don't mistake me for a member of "Team Adonis".......I'm bigger than the whole "team" combined.  LOL!

That is impossible.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Chico_Holiday on March 21, 2006, 10:19:30 AM
Anything is possible.....
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Dan-O on March 21, 2006, 10:27:17 AM
Oh I get it.  So if he didn`t use any drugs he would only be 5 percent less than he is.  That makes sense.

Sometime you're going to have to accept that it takes more than drugs to be a top pro!  All the drugs in the world won't change you from looking like Mike Katz's little brother into Gunter Schlierkamp, for example.  You seem to be in denial about that fact, as if anyone could become a top-tier bodybuilding pro if they only took enough drugs and the only reason you're not in the IFBB right now is because you're better than them by virtue of taking the no-drug route.  Sure, they would be smaller "off" than they are "on."  Big surprise there.  But honestly your continual harping on the drug issue makes you sound pretty bitter about it!
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Dan-O on March 21, 2006, 10:31:53 AM
P.S.  That's two meltdowns from me in two days.  Maybe I need a time out. :)
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Special Ed on March 21, 2006, 10:47:30 AM
As if anyone could become a top-tier bodybuilding pro if they only took enough drugs.
Not quite, but close. Aside from serious symmetry flaws or a concave chest, pretty much anyone who knows how to train and has the commitment to do so can achieve National-level muscle with the proper use of steroids. At that point its up to the judges to determine who becomes a pro. Look at the pro ranks...half the guys have no calves (Dexter, Vic), lots have weak quad flare (Darrem, Gunter), plenty have crappy abs (Ronnie, Dennis) or crappy arms (Kamali) a few have relatively narrow shoulders (Heath, Warren) or wide waists (Cutler, Mohammed, Gunter), and more and more guys are resorting to synthol to bring up weak bodyparts.

I'll give you that discipline and commitment are more important than anything else, but let's be real. Walk into  any natural gym and look at the muscle levels. Then walk into a juice gym like Syosset or Venice. The difference in size is 100% drugs. Why else are there so many big guys in my gym every summer and so few in the winter? Same guys.

Special "Reality Bites" Ed
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: body88 on March 21, 2006, 11:01:16 AM
He has great genetics. Steroids only add 5%. They are nothing more than a finishing touch.

Complete bullshit.... You need awsome genetics yes. But drugs are far more than 5 percent of the equation.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Man of Steel on March 21, 2006, 11:20:28 AM
He has great genetics. Steroids only add 5%. They are nothing more than a finishing touch.


Although, that's 5% out of a total possible 7%.


MOS
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: natural al on March 21, 2006, 11:26:29 AM
natural al sets low standarts so he can't be disapointed but still is. hahaha this little twerp can't weight more than 140 pounds of lard!

awww..c'mon alexxxx you can do better than that..truth be told I don't need to brag about how I look in every thread like you do but since you asked I'm about 210lbs right now, don't know my bf but I can see my abs, no need to lie, I'm not very tall but I'm still tall enough to knock you the fuck out.

talk about standards..hahahaha, you think you're huge and your telling me I have low standards..like I said in another thread you must have fun house mirrors in your house cause what you see ain't reality.  Honestly dude you're a complete clown, you have no development..now you need to head out and get a job that matches your skill set, I hear krogers is hiring baggers...
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: HICKSON on March 21, 2006, 11:52:32 AM
Cocaine is a powerful drug......
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: sarcasm on March 21, 2006, 12:03:58 PM
these pros would be absolutely nothing without drugs, i would bet anything that you could take ANY pro off of every drug for a year and none of them would touch Adonis in the gym.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Matt on March 21, 2006, 12:06:41 PM
Cocaine is a powerful drug......

There is an excellent thread on IMDB about drugs for those who have an account:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0221027/board/thread/11182787

In some sense, I can't be mad that coke et al, is illegal when I can get a pound of it in an hour if I wanted to.  It wouldn't stop my use if I so desired to be a user.  I'm just angry with all the damage the war on drugs causes.  The true criminals who should be arrested are the lawmakers, and to a lesser extent, DEA agents.

Sorry to derail the thread, but when I see mention of cocaine I feel the need to write a spiel on it.   ;D

Back to the thread - I would also bet that most pros wouldn't be Adam's size if they were naturals.  That is, if he is indeed a natural.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Stavios on March 21, 2006, 12:10:25 PM
Adonis isn't exeptional. Yes he is very strong.
but he doesn't have a great physique. good but not great

I've seen a lot of natural with bigger and better physique than him

but he is a strong dude for sure !
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: alexxx on March 21, 2006, 12:13:32 PM
Adonis isn't exeptional. Yes he is very strong.
but he doesn't have a great physique. good but not great

I've seen a lot of natural with bigger and better physique than him

but he is a strong dude for sure !

Thanks Stavios!
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: sarcasm on March 21, 2006, 12:15:41 PM
Thanks Stavios!
sounds like you have a lot of emotion invested in this alexxx.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: natural al on March 21, 2006, 12:17:16 PM
Adonis isn't exeptional. Yes he is very strong.
but he doesn't have a great physique. good but not great

I've seen a lot of natural with bigger and better physique than him

but he is a strong dude for sure !

I'll agree with this.  I don't like TA but he seems to be pretty strong.  People on this board tend to confuse being strong with being big.  yes you must lift heavy weights to be big but just cause you use heavy weights it does not mean your big.  I've never seen a pic of TA that made me say "damn that guy is huge'  They are all these funky ass poses in dim light..notice he never followed through in his "natural beast" thread when he got called out.  

As far as a pro not training as hard as he does, that's a pile of horse shit.  Some pro's-Flex Wheeler- don't train hard but I'm sure the majority of them train thier balls off.  It's not like the day they started taking drugs they just said, "ok, I'm gonna take it easy now"  I'm sure they train pretty damn hard with or without drugs.  This is thier life and I'm sure they want to succeed..look at Branch and Jonnie Jackson, I've never seen a vid of them where they looked like they were taking it easy..
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Stavios on March 21, 2006, 12:20:38 PM
alexxx I wasn't talking about you since I never saw you.

But If you really come at Progym saturday at 2pm, I'll comment how Huge you are

And if you want, I'll take time to watch you doing bench press with 380 lbs or so that you were claiming  ;D
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: sarcasm on March 21, 2006, 12:21:43 PM
alexxx I wasn't talking about you since I never saw you.

But If you really come at Progym saturday at 2pm, I'll comment how Huge you are

And if you want, I'll take time to watch you doing bench press with 380 lbs or so that you were claiming  ;D

alexxx meant 380 ounces.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: natural al on March 21, 2006, 12:22:48 PM
alexxx I wasn't talking about you since I never saw you.

But If you really come at Progym saturday at 2pm, I'll comment how Huge you are

And if you want, I'll take time to watch you doing bench press with 380 lbs or so that you were claiming  ;D


I'd bet my life alexxx would never show up for this, ever...
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: alexxx on March 21, 2006, 12:23:24 PM
You'll see me there but I won't be benching! I'll be doing a back/biceps/forearms/abs/cardio workout! Just check all the chicks will be on me!
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: sarcasm on March 21, 2006, 12:24:06 PM
I'd bet my life alexxx would never show up for this, ever...
just tell him some naked dudes are going to be there he'll show up.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Stavios on March 21, 2006, 12:25:14 PM
You'll see me there but I won't be benching! I'll be doing a back/biceps/forearms/abs/cardio workout! Just check all the chicks will be on me!

Awesome ! Do you want me to bring my camera since yours are all broken ?

that way, people at getbig will see what you look like 40-50 pound heavier !  :D
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Matt on March 21, 2006, 12:27:44 PM
Adonis isn't exeptional. Yes he is very strong.
but he doesn't have a great physique. good but not great

I've seen a lot of natural with bigger and better physique than him

I have to disagree with this.  I have personally not seen any naturals who are his size.  Even guys I know who are close are juiced.

Makes me want to hit roids and stay on for three years like a buddy of mine.  He blew up doing pussycat workouts and eating chips (I ain't kidding).   :o

But that dude was wreckless.  He had no regard at all to long term health.  He ended up about 5'9 or so and 220 ripped.  Definitely overdid the roids though, and still wasn't as big as Adam.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: alexxx on March 21, 2006, 12:28:23 PM
Awesome ! Do you want me to bring my camera since yours are all broken ?

that way, people at getbig will see what you look like 40-50 pound heavier !  :D

Sounds good. I'll bring my pen. It'll be 20$ for an autograph!
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: alexxx on March 21, 2006, 12:30:41 PM
I have to disagree with this.  I have personally not seen any naturals who are his size.  Even guys I know who are close are juiced.

Makes me want to hit roids and stay on for three years like a buddy of mine.  He blew up doing pussycat workouts and eating chips (I ain't kidding).   :o

But that dude was wreckless.  He had no regard at all to long term health.  He ended up about 5'9 or so and 220 ripped.  Definitely overdid the roids though, and still wasn't as big as Adam.

My two training buddies are bigger than Adonis ever will be naturally and they barelly train. Same height 5'10" about 200 pounds but will make him look like a pupette. Also this other kid who is 19 is also very impressive and will shame Adonis so easily!
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: jaejonna on March 21, 2006, 12:32:25 PM
Alexxx your more overated than Preist in Austrailia and Im talking about you entering a competetion with kindergardeners... your weak home boy your weak
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: natural al on March 21, 2006, 12:37:27 PM
just tell him some naked dudes are going to be there he'll show up.

sarcasm, you're not my favorite guy on GB but when you rip on alexxx it brings a smile to my face...
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Palpatine Q on March 21, 2006, 01:30:10 PM
I have to disagree with this.  I have personally not seen any naturals who are his size.  Even guys I know who are close are juiced.

Makes me want to hit roids and stay on for three years like a buddy of mine.  He blew up doing pussycat workouts and eating chips (I ain't kidding).   :o

But that dude was wreckless.  He had no regard at all to long term health.  He ended up about 5'9 or so and 220 ripped.  Definitely overdid the roids though, and still wasn't as big as Adam.

You must train at Ballys. I know plenty of naturals that are bigger and in better shape than Adonis.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Matt on March 21, 2006, 01:33:01 PM
You must train at Ballys. I know plenty of naturals that are bigger and in better shape than Adonis.

There are some who are around Adam's size, but I doubt they are natural.  They might be, but that wouldn't explain the mounds of zits all over their backs.

Where I am from, Adam would be quite big.  Not the biggest, but no slouch that's for sure.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: will938 on March 21, 2006, 02:16:30 PM
these pros would be absolutely nothing without drugs, i would bet anything that you could take ANY pro off of every drug for a year and none of them would touch Adonis in the gym.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA yeah!!ok ::) why don't you stop chomping on your own cock Anus??
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Mars on March 21, 2006, 02:24:38 PM
sarcasm, you're not my favorite guy on GB but when you rip on alexxx it brings a smile to my face...

Yes Sarcasm crucifys little clits like Alexxx like no other.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: davidpaul on March 21, 2006, 02:28:47 PM
these pros would be absolutely nothing without drugs, i would bet anything that you could take ANY pro off of every drug for a year and none of them would touch Adonis in the gym.

bro, your a fukkin animal.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Matt on March 21, 2006, 02:32:40 PM
Phil Heath has been only training for bodybuilding for about three years now right?
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: 240 is Back on March 21, 2006, 02:40:22 PM
Phil Heath has been only training for bodybuilding for about three years now right?

He's trained for quite a few years, actually.  The basketball brochure from 4 years back mentioned that Phil was an avid weightlifter, the strongest kid on the team, and listed his weights on the major lifts.  IIRC- His playing time decreased from his soph year on, as he gained weight and focused more on lifting and less on bball shape.  So it's probably likely- if he made hige muscle gains from age 20-22, that he was using some kinda gear at those ages until now.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Capt._America on March 21, 2006, 02:50:49 PM
The whole "DRUGS DON'T MAKE THE BODY, IT'S TRAINING IS BULLSHIT", look at the pros when they go off, no bigger than most natural guys at the gym, I train 5 days a week, one major/minor per day, with abs, cardio and calves at least 4 days, diet is good, not great, not even near the size nor build of a pro, I also put up some good weight, so only 5%, no f**king way, look at Tom. Dorian and all the other "retired" pros.

And to become a pro, have to find a stripper that will support you so you can eat,lift, cardio and sleep all day, then when your girl is at work, get pissed cause some members of the gym go in the place
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: sarcasm on March 21, 2006, 02:53:36 PM
The whole "DRUGS DON'T MAKE THE BODY, IT'S TRAINING IS BULLSHIT", look at the pros when they go off, no bigger than most natural guys at the gym, I train 5 days a week, one major/minor per day, with abs, cardio and calves at least 4 days, diet is good, not great, not even near the size nor build of a pro, I also put up some good weight, so only 5%, no f**king way, look at Tom. Dorian and all the other "retired" pros.

And to become a pro, have to find a stripper that will support you so you can eat,lift, cardio and sleep all day, then when your girl is at work, get pissed cause some members of the gym go in the place

sounds like quite the life, "capt. America".
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: sarcasm on March 21, 2006, 03:00:02 PM
I heard someplace that Paul Dillet would walk in, do 20 min of lifting and leave...but I also know a couple [of the bigger] guys who do that sort of thing at my gym, but talking with them, they say they came in earlier in the day once already. So maybe that's what people saw Paul doing and just didn't know the whole story.


http://www.boom7.com/index.php?topic=803.0
no, i'm pretty sure it's because Dillett is a bitch.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Adam Empire on March 21, 2006, 05:49:23 PM
bro, your a fukkin animal.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: LuciusFox on March 22, 2006, 02:12:00 PM
Oh I get it.  So if he didn`t use any drugs he would only be 5 percent less than he is.  That makes sense.

 If you used steroids, you would realize that they only add about 5-10%. If you started using now, they wouldn't make much of a difference. You would know this is you read Arnold's Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding. He uses them only as a finishing touch.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Dan-O on March 22, 2006, 02:23:04 PM
If you used steroids, you would realize that they only add about 5-10%. If you started using now, they wouldn't make much of a difference. You would know this is you read Arnold's Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding. He uses them only as a finishing touch.

I distinctly remember an article that Mike Mentzer wrote (in M&F of all places) where he quoted from his training diary before the 1980 Olympia.  Mike BEGAN his steroid regimen after starting his precontest phase, maybe 2-3 months out from the contest.  Hard to believe in this day & age, ain't it.  But that's how they did it back then.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: LuciusFox on March 22, 2006, 02:35:19 PM
I distinctly remember an article that Mike Mentzer wrote (in M&F of all places) where he quoted from his training diary before the 1980 Olympia.  Mike BEGAN his steroid regimen after starting his precontest phase, maybe 2-3 months out from the contest.  Hard to believe in this day & age, ain't it.  But that's how they did it back then.

 Good old Mike. Kind of sad what happened to him. I don't think people these days realize that pros dont need to use as much as they do to look good.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: thegift on March 22, 2006, 11:38:45 PM
He's trained for quite a few years, actually.  The basketball brochure from 4 years back mentioned that Phil was an avid weightlifter, the strongest kid on the team, and listed his weights on the major lifts.  IIRC- His playing time decreased from his soph year on, as he gained weight and focused more on lifting and less on bball shape.  So it's probably likely- if he made hige muscle gains from age 20-22, that he was using some kinda gear at those ages until now.

Actually, I suffered an injury that still plagues me today, which is why my minutes went down and not to mention that I had a very poor attitude. It is interesting that people think they know what my so called 'focus' was when they didn't even know me back then to know what I weighed in at. For everyone's info, I was 175-180lbs while playing bball in college and didn't 'focus' on weights until I was finished with the team. Using gear while playing ball wasn't even going on which is also interesting how everyone who doesn't have any previous history playing a sport at a higher level than high school will make ignorant claims...probably because of their own lack of ability.

Did you check me piss bro while I was in college, because the NCAA did, a few times as regular procedure that is conducted randomly throughout the year and especially during March Madness for your information. If I was using, please ol' wise one, please enlighten me because if you look at the NCAA rule book on banned-substances, you'll see that we were checked for many things such as creatine and even particular substances found in red bull energy drinks so just give it a rest man because you don't have any clue of what you are talking about. I don't feel like I have to defend myself in any way, but I just cannot understand the lack of respect. Respect the fact that yes, there are some people that are just more genetically inclined than others, which is why I have had success in every sport I have played in. I knew guys who had small ass calves, never lifting a bit and could dunk with ease, which made me mad because I had to work hard for that. I later realized that genetics are what set apart the good from the OMG he's the man! By no means is this a direct attack at anyone, just a statement of reality and TRUTH. If you knew what I went throughout college, then I would probably not even respond, but since you haven't a damn clue, I find that quite rude and disrespectful, but hey, its the boards right! No harm, No foul right!

Peace!
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: LuciusFox on March 22, 2006, 11:41:42 PM
Actually, I suffered an injury that still plagues me today, which is why my minutes went down and not to mention that I had a very poor attitude. It is interesting that people think they know what my so called 'focus' was when they didn't even know me back then to know what I weighed in at. For everyone's info, I was 175-180lbs while playing bball in college and didn't 'focus' on weights until I was finished with the team. Using gear while playing ball wasn't even going on which is also interesting how everyone who doesn't have any previous history playing a sport at a higher level than high school will make ignorant claims...probably because of their own lack of ability.

Did you check me piss bro while I was in college, because the NCAA did, a few times as regular procedure that is conducted randomly throughout the year and especially during March Madness for your information. If I was using, please ol' wise one, please enlighten me because if you look at the NCAA rule book on banned-substances, you'll see that we were checked for many things such as creatine and even particular substances found in red bull energy drinks so just give it a rest man because you don't have any clue of what you are talking about. I don't feel like I have to defend myself in any way, but I just cannot understand the lack of respect. Respect the fact that yes, there are some people that are just more genetically inclined than others, which is why I have had success in every sport I have played in. I knew guys who had small ass calves, never lifting a bit and could dunk with ease, which made me mad because I had to work hard for that. I later realized that genetics are what set apart the good from the OMG he's the man! By no means is this a direct attack at anyone, just a statement of reality and TRUTH. If you knew what I went throughout college, then I would probably not even respond, but since you haven't a damn clue, I find that quite rude and disrespectful, but hey, its the boards right! No harm, No foul right!

Peace!


 Were you ever affiliated with Victor Conte, Pat Arnold or Balco?
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: sarcasm on March 23, 2006, 07:56:22 AM
Actually, I suffered an injury that still plagues me today, which is why my minutes went down and not to mention that I had a very poor attitude. It is interesting that people think they know what my so called 'focus' was when they didn't even know me back then to know what I weighed in at. For everyone's info, I was 175-180lbs while playing bball in college and didn't 'focus' on weights until I was finished with the team. Using gear while playing ball wasn't even going on which is also interesting how everyone who doesn't have any previous history playing a sport at a higher level than high school will make ignorant claims...probably because of their own lack of ability.

Did you check me piss bro while I was in college, because the NCAA did, a few times as regular procedure that is conducted randomly throughout the year and especially during March Madness for your information. If I was using, please ol' wise one, please enlighten me because if you look at the NCAA rule book on banned-substances, you'll see that we were checked for many things such as creatine and even particular substances found in red bull energy drinks so just give it a rest man because you don't have any clue of what you are talking about. I don't feel like I have to defend myself in any way, but I just cannot understand the lack of respect. Respect the fact that yes, there are some people that are just more genetically inclined than others, which is why I have had success in every sport I have played in. I knew guys who had small ass calves, never lifting a bit and could dunk with ease, which made me mad because I had to work hard for that. I later realized that genetics are what set apart the good from the OMG he's the man! By no means is this a direct attack at anyone, just a statement of reality and TRUTH. If you knew what I went throughout college, then I would probably not even respond, but since you haven't a damn clue, I find that quite rude and disrespectful, but hey, its the boards right! No harm, No foul right!

Peace!
NCAA? March Madness? bitch please, you played for some glorified community college.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: gtbro1 on March 23, 2006, 08:04:57 AM
240




Oh you said Pro in your question, I thought it said schmo...  :-\





haaaaahaha. :D
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: thegift on March 23, 2006, 08:52:01 AM
NCAA? March Madness? bitch please, you played for some glorified community college.

What have you done in any sport huh? All I can see you do is disrespect people, especially bodybuilders who are actually being cool peeps. Look up my alma mater and you'll see what they are about. Funny how you know who us pros are and while we try to contribute to these boards, guys like you just continue to hate and dis us hiding behind your CPU...real tough! ;) Post a pic so we can see you and I bet you won't have much to talk about then as you'll get torn up from the floor up. People can hide behind their computers and the internet, but I'll say my piece whenever to whoever. Don't try to be such an ignorant person bro toward this thread and save the b.s. for someone else. By the way where did you go to school huh? I bet mine is more respect than yours.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Stavios on March 23, 2006, 09:01:06 AM
Don't take those comments seriously Phil. You know the only pro that didn't get bashed here is Richard Jones ( well he got bashed a lot but not recently, and I still wonder why  ??? ).
240 or bust makes fun of the pros all the time and so does sarcasm.

Try to relax a little bit and good luck for your first pro show  ;)
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: sarcasm on March 23, 2006, 09:03:12 AM
What have you done in any sport huh? All I can see you do is disrespect people, especially bodybuilders who are actually being cool peeps. Look up my alma mater and you'll see what they are about. Funny how you know who us pros are and while we try to contribute to these boards, guys like you just continue to hate and dis us hiding behind your CPU...real tough! ;) Post a pic so we can see you and I bet you won't have much to talk about then as you'll get torn up from the floor up. People can hide behind their computers and the internet, but I'll say my piece whenever to whoever. Don't try to be such an ignorant person bro toward this thread and save the b.s. for someone else. By the way where did you go to school huh? I bet mine is more respect than yours.
"is more respect", monster education.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: buffbodz on March 23, 2006, 09:03:59 AM
Getting back to the question.  Do you mean who trains the least now that they are a pro, or who trained the least to get their pro card?  If the former, all you had to do was watch the Arnold.  Dex was almost embarrassed to say how little time he spends in the gym.  I think he said something like he trained 4 weeks out for 20 min. per session.  He couldn't answer the question with a straight face.  Check out the tape.  The latter, that's one that I'm waiting for a pro to answer.  They know.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: thegift on March 23, 2006, 09:11:45 AM
"is more respect", monster education.

Respect is what I have given everyone here. Yes, I do have a great education, but that does not mean I should be respected, you'll have to be the judge. I speak the truth and I know that you mean no harm and are just goofing around. Trust me, I don't take things to serious and being sensitive to remarks like these only fuel the fire. I actually enjoy communicating, but only when the facts are being talked about. The threads are great, but only when it stays on target and not going off onto other areas such as these. Let's talk about what the thread is huh?
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: sarcasm on March 23, 2006, 09:16:30 AM
Respect is what I have given everyone here. Yes, I do have a great education, but that does not mean I should be respected, you'll have to be the judge. I speak the truth and I know that you mean no harm and are just goofing around. Trust me, I don't take things to serious and being sensitive to remarks like these only fuel the fire. I actually enjoy communicating, but only when the facts are being talked about. The threads are great, but only when it stays on target and not going off onto other areas such as these. Let's talk about what the thread is huh?

the reason why people give you guys so much shit is because you lie your asses off about everything, how much you weigh, how much you lift, how much money you make, how tall you are, how great your genetics are, how much drugs you take, etc., if you guys would be honest you wouldn't catch so much shit, i just don't let people get away with talking bullshit.
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: Dan-O on March 23, 2006, 09:31:17 AM
Actually, I suffered an injury that still plagues me today, which is why my minutes went down and not to mention that I had a very poor attitude. It is interesting that people think they know what my so called 'focus' was when they didn't even know me back then to know what I weighed in at. For everyone's info, I was 175-180lbs while playing bball in college and didn't 'focus' on weights until I was finished with the team. Using gear while playing ball wasn't even going on which is also interesting how everyone who doesn't have any previous history playing a sport at a higher level than high school will make ignorant claims...probably because of their own lack of ability.

Did you check me piss bro while I was in college, because the NCAA did, a few times as regular procedure that is conducted randomly throughout the year and especially during March Madness for your information. If I was using, please ol' wise one, please enlighten me because if you look at the NCAA rule book on banned-substances, you'll see that we were checked for many things such as creatine and even particular substances found in red bull energy drinks so just give it a rest man because you don't have any clue of what you are talking about. I don't feel like I have to defend myself in any way, but I just cannot understand the lack of respect. Respect the fact that yes, there are some people that are just more genetically inclined than others, which is why I have had success in every sport I have played in. I knew guys who had small ass calves, never lifting a bit and could dunk with ease, which made me mad because I had to work hard for that. I later realized that genetics are what set apart the good from the OMG he's the man! By no means is this a direct attack at anyone, just a statement of reality and TRUTH. If you knew what I went throughout college, then I would probably not even respond, but since you haven't a damn clue, I find that quite rude and disrespectful, but hey, its the boards right! No harm, No foul right!

Peace!

LOL, since when did "facts" have anything to do with some good gossip & opinions and out-and-out bullshit conjecture?  That wouldn't be much fun, now would it?  97% of the threads on here would disappear. :D
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: will938 on March 23, 2006, 09:35:19 AM
i just don't let people get away with talking bullshit.

That is bullshit right there!! you're just a trolling tool that enjoys winding people up so your buddies, such as the pole smoking Mars, can have a good giggle :-*
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: jaejonna on March 23, 2006, 09:43:25 AM
That is bullshit right there!! you're just a trolling tool that enjoys winding people up so your buddies, such as the pole smoking Mars, can have a good giggle :-*

True That !!


But to Phil,

Good luck with that show coming up, hopefully you can be part of the next golden era of BB cause most of the jokers out there are bloated, site injected, syntholmanicas (some... aka Dim), with no balance or asthetics.

Respect is earned not given
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: alexxx on March 23, 2006, 10:03:20 AM
True That !!


But to Phil,

Good luck with that show coming up, hopefully you can be part of the next golden era of BB cause most of the jokers out there are bloated, site injected, syntholmanicas (some... aka Dim), with no balance or asthetics.

Respect is earned not given

Could you post that pic of you doing a quarter back double biceps shot again.... I need some good laughs..
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: natural al on March 23, 2006, 10:16:45 AM
the reason why people give you guys so much shit is because you lie your asses off about everything, how much you weigh, how much you lift, how much money you make, how tall you are, how great your genetics are, how much drugs you take, etc., if you guys would be honest you wouldn't catch so much shit, i just don't let people get away with talking bullshit.

honestly...real question no bullshit, what did he lie about?  Be specific.  I don't want to start any trouble with you but it seems like anytime anyone makes a claim you call bullshit...I'm just wondering what "the gift" did to piss you off...or are you just trying to get under his skin?
Title: Re: Which Current PRO has the least amount of training?
Post by: LuciusFox on March 23, 2006, 11:08:00 AM
honestly...real question no bullshit, what did he lie about?  Be specific.  I don't want to start any trouble with you but it seems like anytime anyone makes a claim you call bullshit...I'm just wondering what "the gift" did to piss you off...or are you just trying to get under his skin?

 I think Sarcasm might be nearing an epic....MELTDOWN. :-\