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1) Announces VP choice? Kasich or Carly??
2) ???
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3 ) Whines through the whole thing.
I am choosing #3.
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Please be a VP pick, haha. Leading from behind.
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3 ) Whines through the whole thing.
I am choosing #3.
That would be Trump. The guy with all the hype but with no plan.
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That would be Trump. The guy with all the hype but with no plan.
you said you liked a lot of his ideas.
Now you're saying he has no plan.
Is it both?
Picking a VP choice on the day you've just been mathematically eliminated would be a very odd move. He called for Rubio and kasich to withdraw as soon as they were mathematically eliminated. Cruz went from 2% chance to 0% chance as of late last night. A move to add Carly to the ticket would have been an awesome move - in February. Today it'd be strange. "Trump just reached a point where he cannot mathematically be stopped, so TODAY I want to change the conversation to how much I love women and how much donald hates women.
Good move - 8 weeks ago.
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1) Announces VP choice? Kasich or Carly??
2) ???
most likely announcing that he was a long time client of the DC Madam and will release various videos of himself with mulitiple prostitutes and various barn yard animals
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That would be Trump. The guy with all the hype but with no plan.
Trump is all bluff.
Cruz is nothing but a whining little crybaby.
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Fiorina as running mate?
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Fiorina as running mate?
Yep. Pass me the barf bag! :-X
Fortunately, two losers do not = a winner. ::)
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Fiorina as running mate?
As if he wasn't already a disaster... I guess he's trying to pander for the brokered convention.
Convenient before the California primaries huh?
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Yep. Pass me the barf bag! :-X
Fortunately, two losers do not = a winner. ::)
If that is his announcement, I would like to see Fiorina backtrack on this:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/03/politics/carly-fiorina-ted-cruz-rose-bowl/
"Ted Cruz is just like any other politician. He says one thing in Manhattan, he says another thing in Iowa, he says whatever he needs to say to get elected, and then he's going to do as he pleases,"
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you said you liked a lot of his ideas.
Now you're saying he has no plan.
Is it both?
Yes is CAN be both.
Picking a VP choice on the day you've just been mathematically eliminated would be a very odd move. He called for Rubio and kasich to withdraw as soon as they were mathematically eliminated. Cruz went from 2% chance to 0% chance as of late last night. A move to add Carly to the ticket would have been an awesome move - in February. Today it'd be strange. "Trump just reached a point where he cannot mathematically be stopped, so TODAY I want to change the conversation to how much I love women and how much donald hates women.
Good move - 8 weeks ago.
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No need to backtrack; all she wants is power. Nothing else matters. She would be Trump's running mate if he would have her.
Cruz expected to announce Carly Fiorina as his running mate
By Sean Sullivan and Robert Costa April 27 at 2:33 PM
INDIANAPOLIS — Ted Cruz, in an apparent act of desperation, plans to announce Wednesday that Carly Fiorina will be his vice presidential running mate if he is the Republican nominee for president, according to two people familiar with the decision.
Announcing a running mate is an unusual step that comes as he trails GOP front-runner Donald Trump by a wide margin and faces an increasingly narrow path to the Republican nomination.
The decision comes as Cruz is hoping to gain steam in what amounts to a must-win for him in the Indiana primary May 3. The announcement will come the day after Trump drubbed Cruz in five Eastern states and stretched his overall lead in delegates to the Republican convention to nearly 400.
Fiorina, a former GOP presidential candidate who endorsed Cruz in March, has been one of his most active surrogates. The former Hewlett-Packard chief executive has been an outspoken critic of both Trump and Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton.
The news was first reported by Politico. The people describing Cruz’s decision spoke on the condition of anonymity.
Cruz has won endorsements from five of the defeated 2016 candidates, including his former governor, Rick Perry.
Just weeks after endorsing Cruz, Fiorina joined the candidate’s wife Heidi on a busy retail tour of Wisconsin, drawing glowing press coverage. Days later she traveled to Fargo, N.D., to him win the state’s GOP convention, a job that required days of hands-on campaigning.
It was a preview of the sort of work she might be expected to do as a running mate. Fiorina spent hours working the cash bar hospitality suites where the activists who would elect delegates were being courted. Hundreds of them walked away with selfies; all of them heard her endorse Cruz again from the convention stage. That helped Cruz to a better-than-expected haul of 18 supporters on the state delegate slate.
Trump and Cruz are currently focused on Indiana, where the mogul is seeking a knockout blow and Cruz is making a last-gasp effort to survive.
Trump is returning to the Hoosier State for an evening rally after delivering a foreign policy address in Washington Wednesday morning that his team hoped would make him appear more presidential. He will be joined in Indiana by longtime Indiana University basketball coach Bob Knight, who is a fan favorite here.
Cruz, who has spent the past few days in Indiana trying to get a head start on Trump and move swiftly past his humiliating Tuesday defeats, campaigned at an Indianapolis restaurant Wednesday morning. He told reporters there that he would make his announcement at a 4 p.m. rally nearby.
Looming over the race is the question of whether Gov. Mike Pence will publicly back Trump, Cruz or no one. The governor met with both candidates last week.
“He may not endorse — I don’t think he’ll endorse anybody, actually — and he may endorse us, I don’t know,” Trump said on CNN on Wednesday morning. He added that he thinks Pence will either endorse him or no one.
Indiana is the only state holding a Republican primary next Tuesday. Trump and Cruz are expected to spend much of their time campaigning here. A loss for Cruz would deal a catastrophic blow to his struggling campaign, which was set back immensely by his poor showing Tuesday.
The third remaining candidate, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, has stopped actively campaigning in Indiana, clearing the way for Cruz to square off against Trump one on one. In exchange, Cruz is clearing the way for Kasich to face Trump in Oregon and New Mexico. Kasich plans to stump in Oregon on Thursday.
The Cruz-Kasich deal has been unsteady, and it’s not clear whether it will have the intended effect of isolating and defeating Trump in three key states.
Polls show Trump and Cruz in close competition in Indiana. In a speech Tuesday night at the Hoosier Gym in Knightstown, where the movie “Hoosiers” was filmed, Cruz declared to supporters: “Tonight this campaign moves back to more favorable terrain.”
Cruz will enter the next week badly wounded by two straight weeks of East Coast blowout losses where he mostly finished third behind Trump and Kasich. On Tuesday, Trump swept Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania and Rhode Island. In all but Pennsylvania, Cruz finished last.
According to the Associated Press’s latest delegate count, Trump has nearly a 400-delegate lead over Cruz and is nearly 800 ahead of Kasich.
Trump called his Tuesday sweep the “biggest night” of the campaign, confidently predicting that he could capture the 1,237 delegates needed to clinch the Republican nomination outright. He also suggested during a question-and-answer session with reporters at Trump Tower on Tuesday evening that Cruz and Kasich were doing the party harm by remaining in the contest.
“I consider myself the presumptive nominee, absolutely,” Trump said. He suggested that Cruz and Kasich exit the race because “they have no path to victory at all.”
He added: “The best way to beat the system is to have evenings like this, where you get record-setting votes.”
Responding to reports that Cruz is vetting Republicans, including rival-turned-supporter Carly Fiorina, to be his vice presidential running mate, Trump said Wednesday morning that it was not a good idea.
“I think it hurts him. I can’t imagine he does it,” the mogul said on “Fox and Friends.” “First of all he shouldn’t be naming anybody because he doesn’t even have a chance.”
Cruz nodded at the vice presidential intrigue surrounding him Tuesday night, saying he had an announcement. But the announcement — that Clinton had tapped Trump as her running mate — was made in jest.
During a rally in Indiana last week, Trump put the air-conditioning maker Carrier at the center of his pitch. He is expected to continue doing so. The company has announced that it plans to move jobs from Indianapolis to Mexico. Trump said that as president, he would subject such a move to a tax penalty. He has mentioned Carrier in other states, too.
Trump also has bragged about Knight’s endorsement on the campaign trail for days.
“He’s tough, he’s sharp and he wins. And the people of Indiana love him,” he said Tuesday.
Cruz repeatedly tried to link Trump to Clinton on Tuesday night, signaling that he plans to try to blur the distinction between them on several policy and political fronts during the next week.
Clinton and Trump are “flip sides of the same coin,” argued Cruz, who accused Trump of holding Clinton-like views on health care, foreign policy, immigration and other issues.
Trump has been an outspoken critic of Clinton. He has referred to her on the campaign trail as “Crooked Hillary.”
Indiana awards 57 delegates to the Republican National Convention on a winner-take-all basis by congressional district and statewide.
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It's just sad at this point.
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if this is truly his move...
then I am guessing his donors and team are pulling the plug on the $ after losing 5 states last night and officially entering the "0% chance of winning nomination" just as trump moves into the "close enough that most experts say the nomination is his".
This is really Cruz' only remaining move... some hope that delegates will just screw over Trump (they're party repubs, they just may lol)... and that the "team" of Cruz/Carly will be in place already as a viable alternative.
not a bad move, maybe it'll keep donors from bailing and his staff from quitting this weekend, who knows.
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if this is truly his move...
then I am guessing his donors and team are pulling the plug on the $ after losing 5 states last night and officially entering the "0% chance of winning nomination" just as trump moves into the "close enough that most experts say the nomination is his".
This is really Cruz' only remaining move... some hope that delegates will just screw over Trump (they're party repubs, they just may lol)... and that the "team" of Cruz/Carly will be in place already as a viable alternative.
not a bad move, maybe it'll keep donors from bailing and his staff from quitting this weekend, who knows.
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Could Cruz have picked the most annoying KUNT on the planet. What a fucking idiot. She is so unappealing.
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He's mathematically eliminated and choosing a VP? Makes sense to me. ::)
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He's mathematically eliminated and choosing a VP? Makes sense to me. ::)
it is definitely a desperate move. But one that we saw coming, with that 500,000 donation.
Why did the Ted Cruz superpac donate $500,000 to the CARLY superPac? :o
After going thru the PAC releases of financials... NBC discovers the Cruz Superpac gave half a mil to Carly Fiorina's campaign.
Why? They said some "donors" of the Cruz SUperPac are also impressed with Carly.
Rachel Maddow is VERY curious about this, and will no doubt dig in further.
My take? Cruz KNOWS he is the ONLY viable true conservative in the race (santorum and perry are both statistically out, their team bailing now that they missed debate). Cruz KNOWS he needs a bump in the polls, and what better than *winking* to the world that he'll choose a female candidate as his running mate, the business minded Carly Fiorinia.
I bet he plays nice with her when speaking in the debates, I bet she throws support behind him when she exits campaign. I think Cruz just got DIBBS on the only female in the GOP race. And I think he's brilliant for doing so, with a scant $500k of donor $. BRILLIANT.
Cruz/Carly will be the ticket if Repubs wise up and Dump the RINO Trump, and let an actual conservative win the 2016 election.
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It is almost as boneheaded as Mccain picking Palin. I'm pretty sure the truth of it was that no one believes Cruz has any chance to win anymore. Fiorina is just an attention whore who would say yes to anyone. Cruz ended up in 3 rd spot in 4 of the 5 states last night. He just sucks. ANy sane candidate would have dropped out of the race.
Funny thing is there's still some shady shit. He got 54 delegates from Penn that won't count until the convention. It's an honor system where they vow to vote for the person that won the state (TRUMP) or who is leading the delegate count entering the convention (TRUMP) but I wouldn't be shocked if those 50 people end up with a few $100K in their bank accounts to vote differently and break the whole honor system.
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that's what I mean - there's literally ZERO punishment for any delegates that just decide to give Trump the finger and vote for Cruz/Carly.
Trump may get the numbers, the nation will celebrate.. the summer rolls around and the delegates surprise everyone. That'd be some shit, huh?
I wish Cruz would have done this 2 months ago, it may have helped. Very awkward for Carly... she'll go down in history as being a meaningless veep pick. Way too reactionary move from Cruz.
Confirmed, Carly is the pick, she's in the building. About to announce.
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nonstop carly talk of the lamestream media.
lots of talk of liberals. calling trump and hilary both liberals. calling them insiders.
carly has the Palin shtick down well ;) Looks like the same red outfit Palin always wears. Lots of "gosh"'s as well :) :)
Palin supporters are going to be all over her, watch. She just sang 4 lines of a song to Cruz' kids. Trying to endear herself to mothers. Smart.
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LOL
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HAHAHAHA. Poor HH6. Spent all that time working on Cruz's campaign just to be slapped in the face like this.
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It is almost as boneheaded as Mccain picking Palin. I'm pretty sure the truth of it was that no one believes Cruz has any chance to win anymore. Fiorina is just an attention whore who would say yes to anyone. Cruz ended up in 3 rd spot in 4 of the 5 states last night. He just sucks. ANy sane candidate would have dropped out of the race.
Funny thing is there's still some shady shit. He got 54 delegates from Penn that won't count until the convention. It's an honor system where they vow to vote for the person that won the state (TRUMP) or who is leading the delegate count entering the convention (TRUMP) but I wouldn't be shocked if those 50 people end up with a few $100K in their bank accounts to vote differently and break the whole honor system.
So, those 50 delegates get several 100k magically deposited in the their bank accounts?
Yeah, totally plausible.
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Has any CANDIDATE running for POTUS ever chosen a running mate before becoming the nominee?
Reeks of desperation
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So, those 50 delegates get several 100k magically deposited in the their bank accounts?
Yeah, totally plausible.
it's not illegal to feed them, fly them around, give them weekends at resorts or nights in the lincoln bedrooms.
I doubt we'll see Ted carrying a big suitcase full of $, but will those with his campaign promise anything and everything? Sure. Don trump Jr was on hannity this week saying the law is vague and they're about to stoop to spoiling delegates just to keep up.
I doubt 100k in accounts. but 20k value weeklong 'meetings' at resorts? Sure.
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HAHAHAHA. Poor HH6. Spent all that time working on Cruz's campaign just to be slapped in the face like this.
He picked the best option on the Republican ticket in my opinion.
I do not disagree with his pick.
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He picked the best option on the Republican ticket in my opinion.
I do not disagree with his pick.
A failed CEO who never ran a successful company in her life?
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A failed CEO who never ran a successful company in her life?
I was talking about hh6 picking Cruz to help.
Not Cruz picking Carly.
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He picked the best option on the Republican ticket in my opinion.
I do not disagree with his pick.
Not really. Cruz isn't even popular in his own party. He's a whiner that never really stood a chance. He is simply just the Anti Trump alternative. Kermit the Frog could have as many delegates as Cruz has at this point simply because everyone will not vote for Trump.
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Not really. Cruz isn't even popular in his own party. He's a whiner that never really stood a chance. He is simply just the Anti Trump alternative. Kermit the Frog could have as many delegates as Cruz has at this point simply because everyone will not vote for Trump.
He was the most popular aside from Trump.
Trump just got the bottom feeders really.
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Not really. Cruz isn't even popular in his own party. He's a whiner that never really stood a chance. He is simply just the Anti Trump alternative. Kermit the Frog could have as many delegates as Cruz has at this point simply because everyone will not vote for Trump.
I'd guess Kermit also has higher favorability ratings than Cruz
I gotta say the drawing of lines has been really interesting
Christie and Carson latched onto Trump
Fiorino was anti-Trump early on
Very hard to believe she actually likes or can even stand being around Cruz
yet there she is pretending she's a running mate to someone who isn't actually the Republican nominee
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yet there she is pretending she's a running mate to someone who isn't actually the Republican nominee
It was weird seeing them hold up their hands as if they were victorious.
Cruz is mathematically out of it. He believes his 29% of voters are worth more than Trump's 39% of voters, and that his 500 (?) delegate lead means nothing.
I hope it work, would love to see Trump lose.
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Cnn suggesting that if trump wins Indiana next week, Cruz should announce his cabinet picks.
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Cnn suggesting that if trump wins Indiana next week, Cruz should announce his cabinet picks.
Haha damn :D
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Cnn suggesting that if trump wins Indiana next week, Cruz should announce his cabinet picks.
HAHAHAHA
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Cruz must honestly believe that the Big money donors are going to buy him the contested convention. Will see.
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Cruz must honestly believe that the Big money donors are going to buy him the contested convention. Will see.
they might, if only because he appears to have a viable Plan B option in place with Cruz/Carly.
He's hoping it's decent enough to just get the nod. The safe play.
Trump's foreign policy speech yesterday was a train wreck, full of contradictions and things that make the Russians applaud "let's shut down NATO, etc". He's not informed or open-minded enough to be president, unwilling to admit/learn what he doesn't know already. The party sees he's a huge danger if he becomes president, but the people of the party love him. Anyone see the people of Indiana being interviewed? They make florida look brilliant by comparison.
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they might, if only because he appears to have a viable Plan B option in place with Cruz/Carly.
He's hoping it's decent enough to just get the nod. The safe play.
Trump's foreign policy speech yesterday was a train wreck, full of contradictions and things that make the Russians applaud "let's shut down NATO, etc". He's not informed or open-minded enough to be president, unwilling to admit/learn what he doesn't know already. The party sees he's a huge danger if he becomes president, but the people of the party love him. Anyone see the people of Indiana being interviewed? They make florida look brilliant by comparison.
Trump is appealing to the angry white voter but surprisingly is doing well in black areas as well which seems strange. He might do well in the general election but not enough to beat SheBeast. Trump won't even win NY. Did you look at the delegate count. She got more votes from democrats than he did from republicans in NY. Trump unable to win his own state vs. her is his demise.
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Trump is appealing to the angry white voter but surprisingly is doing well in black areas as well which seems strange. He might do well in the general election but not enough to beat SheBeast. Trump won't even win NY. Did you look at the delegate count. She got more votes from democrats than he did from republicans in NY. Trump unable to win his own state vs. her is his demise.
even if trump wins the white house... is this what republicans want?
the dude changed positions over and over during that foreign policy 'speech'. Trying to be everything to everyone and using 3rd grade language about really complex issues.
Imagine a person interviewing for a job - using he exact wording that trump is using. "I'm gonna make your workplace great, gonna make deals, gonna get the right people in here, gonna turn things around". No specifics, no positions, no plan... just vague promises of greatness that sounds wonderful to everyone.
He's interviewing for the most important job ON EARTH. and 1/3 of the people interviewing him are a-okay with his answers.
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Cruz sounding incredibly presidential in his speech this AM. Pointing out the awful flaws in the Trump foreign policy speech. Ted's not likable, and Carly's not likable. Trump is likable. (although I believe he's a dem plant).
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Cruz sounding incredibly presidential in his speech this AM. Pointing out the awful flaws in the Trump foreign policy speech. Ted's not likable, and Carly's not likable. Trump is likable. (although I believe he's a dem plant).
Have you been drinking again? Why do you care, aren't you just going to write in the Libertarian candidate?
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Cruz sounding incredibly presidential in his speech this AM. Pointing out the awful flaws in the Trump foreign policy speech. Ted's not likable, and Carly's not likable. Trump is likable. (although I believe he's a dem plant).
aside from some of 333's beliefs about Obama, this is one of the most insane beliefs ever stated on this board
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aside from some of 333's beliefs about Obama, this is one of the most insane beliefs ever stated on this board
Whatever happened to 33386(?) I
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aside from some of 333's beliefs about Obama, this is one of the most insane beliefs ever stated on this board
george will, a conservative columnist, believes it as well.
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Whatever happened to 33386(?) I
His job on the Bernie Sander NY team forbid him from posting on message boards.
Once sanders drops out, 333386 will be back.
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george will, a conservative columnist, believes it as well.
so what?
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it's very sad watching Cruz/Carly make the rounds in this victorious manner, fist-pumping and talking about their ticket.
There is no ticket - he's mathematically out of it and Trump will win based on the number of delegates.
Maybe the delegates are going to just say screw trump, and change their votes, who knows...
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it's very sad watching Cruz/Carly make the rounds in this victorious manner, fist-pumping and talking about their ticket.
There is no ticket - he's mathematically out of it and Trump will win based on the number of delegates.
Maybe the delegates are going to just say screw trump, and change their votes, who knows...
Actually what I've heard (just rumors at this point so no proof) that Cruz delegates were switching over to Trump. At any rate it's very interesting.
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Actually what I've heard (just rumors at this point so no proof) that Cruz delegates were switching over to Trump. At any rate it's very interesting.
I have said since June 2015 that Trump is the inevitable nominee and I still believe it.
It's fascinating to think these delegates could change the course of a national election. I mean, 30 or 40 individuals could steal it from Cruz, OR Trump. Terrible system.
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I have said since June 2015 that Trump is the inevitable nominee and I still believe it.
It's fascinating to think these delegates could change the course of a national election. I mean, 30 or 40 individuals could steal it from Cruz, OR Trump. Terrible system.
So only you and Bill Clinton had the prescience to know that Trump would be the "inevitable" nominee
Clinton, of course knew this and thus chose Trump as the "plant" in order to secretly (or not so secretly) enable his wife to become POTUS
Tell us the rest of the plan
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So only you and Bill Clinton had the prescience to know that Trump would be the "inevitable" nominee
Clinton, of course knew this and thus chose Trump as the "plant" in order to secretly (or not so secretly) enable his wife to become POTUS
Tell us the rest of the plan
Well, I think Trump takes the nomination then - as planned all along - escorts Hilary to the white house.
When he tanks or removes himself from the race is still a question mark. So far, tho, I think even you would admit he's done everything that would be on a Dem Plant's "to do" list.
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Well, I think Trump takes the nomination then - as planned all along - escorts Hilary to the white house.
When he tanks or removes himself from the race is still a question mark. So far, tho, I think even you would admit he's done everything that would be on a Dem Plant's "to do" list.
Serious question, Why the fuck would you write this sentence when you know full fucking well I don't think that at all and I've told you that many times, most recently just a couple of days ago
Trump has done everything Trump would do if Trump wanted Trump to win
Everyone other than you and George Will can see this and I'm not even sure George Will is with you anymore
Seriously, please explain why you would write that given that my position on your "plant" idiocy has been 100% the same the entire time
Do you have some kind of brain injury?
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WHat i'm saying is this...
What would be on a Clinton plant's "to do" list?
1) paint Rubio as little and weak
2) Paint jeb as low energy
3) wreck rand as a punk
4) paint carson as a psycopath
5) shit all over Bush legacy
6) paint bernie as a commie
7) remind the whole world romney is a loser
8) make the top repub choices look like they hate amnesty
9) remind the whole world that mccain is a loser
10) remind everyone that Palin is a great face of repub party
11) let everyone know the repub party, RNC, process is crooked and a joke
we can start there. Do we agree all of those things would be on a Clingyn Plant's "to do" list?
And do you agree Trump has done all of those 11 things?
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WHat i'm saying is this...
What would be on a Clinton plant's "to do" list?
1) paint Rubio as little and weak
2) Paint jeb as low energy
3) wreck rand as a punk
4) paint carson as a psycopath
5) shit all over Bush legacy
6) paint bernie as a commie
7) remind the whole world romney is a loser
8) make the top repub choices look like they hate amnesty
9) remind the whole world that mccain is a loser
10) remind everyone that Palin is a great face of repub party
11) let everyone know the repub party, RNC, process is crooked and a joke
we can start there. Do we agree all of those things would be on a Clingyn Plant's "to do" list?
And do you agree Trump has done all of those 11 things?
you forgot to add make the earth rotate and make the majority of the human race on the planet have to take a shit when they wake up each morning
both those things happen. You can't deny that. Now it's just a matter of proving that Bill Clinton is resposible
BTW - just so there is no confusion - NO I DON'T AGREE that Clinton even had a plant "to do" list just like I don't agree for a nanosecond that Trump is a plant for anyone
I do firmly believe that you've lost your mind
no joke at all
you're nuts
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Did the video get released yet?
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Did the video get released yet?
lol. A video of Cruz having sex with hookers should be dominating the news.
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lol. A video of Cruz having sex with hookers should be dominating the news.
imagine how this event will dominate the news
Trump won't be safe anywhere on the planet from all his rabid fans when they've realized he's just used them to give Hillary the White House
Well, I think Trump takes the nomination then - as planned all along - escorts Hilary to the white house.
When he tanks or removes himself from the race is still a question mark. So far, tho, I think even you would admit he's done everything that would be on a Dem Plant's "to do" list.
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lol. A video of Cruz having sex with hookers should be dominating the news.
oh look, you're back. Leaner too, nice work.