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http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/06/14/reports-alligator-drags-child-into-water-fla/85905266/
Jeff Williamson, a spokesman for the Orange County Sheriff's office, details the latest on the departments search for the toddler that was snatched from a gator at a Disney resort. Naples Daily News
ORLANDO — After 15 hours of searching a man-made lake at a Disney World resort hotel for a toddler snatched off the beach by an alligator, officials said Wednesday that the horrific ordeal was "not survivable" and they were now looking to recover the body of the 2-year-old.
The 7-to-8-foot reptile grabbed the boy late Tuesday as he was playing in about a foot of water at the Seven Seas Lagoon at the Grand Floridian Hotel. His father, who quickly rushed to the boy's aid, could not fend off the alligator and received minor injuries to his hand..
The boy's mother also rushed into the water, but when the frantic couple was unable to save their son, they alerted a nearby lifeguard who called 911.
Some 50 wildlife specialists, including trained alligator trappers, shifted early Wednesday from a search and rescue effort to a recovery operation, Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings.
"There is no question the family will lose a 2-year-old boy," he said Wednesday.
"There were eyewitnesses who certainly saw the child taken under the water," he said. "We know that that happened and it is certainly not survivable at this point for him to have been submerged for that period of time."
He said the dozens of searchers, divers and wildlife experts would continue the search as long as it takes.
"We are working on recovering the body of a child at this point," the sheriff said. "We are trying to bring some closer (to the parents) by recovering their loved one."
Nick Wiley, executive director of the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, which spearheaded the search, said the American alligator was feeding and likely confused the small child for a dog or a raccoon. The gators do not typically feed on humans. “People – even small people – are not their typical prey,” he said.
Disney, meanwhile, said it had closed all beaches in its resort area “out of an abundance of caution,” CNN reports.
Searchers divided the lake into a grid pattern to look for the shine of alligator eyes in the dark and used sonar to scan the waters. Officials said the lake has several canals feeding into it, making the search trickier.
Officials said they removed five alligators from the lagoon but found no evidence of the child The reptiles will be euthanized to determine if they were involved in the incident.
Wildlife officials count around a dozen alligator bites a year in Florida, but fatalities from the reptiles are far less common. There have been only 23 fatalities caused by alligators in Florida since the 1940s, Wiley said. Tuesday's incident is the first known alligator attack at the Seven Seas Lagoon, he said.
“They were probably attracted to some motion on the bank,” Wiley said. “That’s the way they stalk their prey.”
The mother, father and their three children, who are from Nebraska, have been staying at the hotel since Sunday, Demings said.
The sheriff said he was "hopeful that we are able to locate the child in a reasonable period of time" but acknowledged there might not be a happy resolution to the search.
"As a father, as a grandfather, we're going to hope for the best in these circumstances, but based on my 35 years of law enforcement experience we know that we have some challenges ahead of us at this time," he said.
There are posted signs warning guests against swimming in the lake, Demings said.
"Everyone here at the Walt Disney World resort is devastated by this tragic accident," Disney spokeswoman Jacquee Wahler said. "We are helping the family and doing everything we can to assist law enforcement."
The terrifying alligator attack at one of the world's favorite family vacation destinations comes as the Orlando area reels from the mass shooting at a nightclub that claimed 49 lives early Sunday and the fatal shooting of singer Christina Grimmie at a concert late Friday.
The Grand Floridian Resort & Spa, located within walking distance of a monorail ride to Magic Kingdom Park. (Photo: Kent Phillips, Disney)
"We're doing our best to deal with all of the situations that we have going on here, but our staff is very resilient and tonight they are very focused on assisting this family," Demings said. "We're not leaving until we recover the child."
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It sucks that places like that don't have signs and shit warning about alligators and warning people to stay out of the water.
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It sucks that places like that don't have signs and shit warning about alligators and warning people to stay out of the water.
There is a no swimming sign but no warning. A nearby Hyatt hotel has the warning.
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Been a busy week for the Sheriff of Orlando. Announcing the murder of that female singer. Then the shooting at the gay club. Now the Disney world tragedy involving the gator.
Any word on whether that gator was affiliated with ISIS?
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Been a busy week for the Sheriff of Orlando. Announcing the murder of that female singer. Then the shooting at the gay club. Now the Disney world tragedy involving the gator.
Any word on whether that gator was affiliated with ISIS?
Makes you wonder how these Chicago mayors handle the 1-2 murders on average per day year after year...
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Been a busy week for the Sheriff of Orlando. Announcing the murder of that female singer. Then the shooting at the gay club. Now the Disney world tragedy involving the gator.
Any word on whether that gator was affiliated with ISIS?
They say bad things come in 3's!
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What colour was the child?
Very, very low, even for getbig.
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What colour was the child?
Nebraska family
so probably a honky tonk family
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Damn first a gorilla and now a gator. Please watch your kids around dangerous animals!
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Was this beach or lake on Walt Disney property? Or was it separate? Why would Disney make a lake with a croc in it?
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Was this beach or lake on Walt Disney property? Or was it separate? Why would Disney make a lake with a croc in it?
Man made lake at the most exclusive disney hotel.
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Was this beach or lake on Walt Disney property? Or was it separate? Why would Disney make a lake with a croc in it?
Because Walt Disney put his park in the middle of a fucking swamp. How's that sound?
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Because Walt Disney put his park in the middle of a fucking swamp. How's that sound?
Well, then its not really a man-made lake as the article describes.
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Was this beach or lake on Walt Disney property? Or was it separate? Why would Disney make a lake with a croc in it?
It's a pretty big man made lake, and there's lots of tributaries, and natural bodies of water that feed into it or are a close distance away. Gator probably swam in, and has been chilling there for a while.
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Wonder if the alligator thought the kid tasted like chicken.
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Man made lake at the most exclusive disney hotel.
??? ???
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Damn Gators are even on the Golf course in Florida.
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http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/06/01/giant-alligator-golf-course-clip-newday.cnn (http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/06/01/giant-alligator-golf-course-clip-newday.cnn)
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Man made lake at the most exclusive disney hotel.
Fed by canals and creeks where crocs nest and live. We have some good news and some bad news. The bad news is your son is gone. The good news is that soon you'll be multi-millionaires and you can always have another baby!
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It's a pretty big man made lake, and there's lots of tributaries, and natural bodies of water that feed into it or are a close distance away. Gator probably swam in, and has been chilling there for a while.
Okay, this makes sense.
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Damn Gators are even on the Golf course in Florida.
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http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/06/01/giant-alligator-golf-course-clip-newday.cnn (http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/06/01/giant-alligator-golf-course-clip-newday.cnn)
I saw that a few weeks ago. That alligator is huge!!
But the biggest is the Saltwater Crocodile
:o :o :o
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/SaltwaterCrocodile('Maximo').jpg)
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http://www.gatorland.com/public/experiences/rookie-wrestling/index.cfm (http://www.gatorland.com/public/experiences/rookie-wrestling/index.cfm)
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I saw that a few weeks ago. That alligator is huge!!
But the biggest is the Saltwater Crocodile
:o :o :o
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/35/Saltwater_crocodile.jpg)
Finally we get to see what Branch Warren would look like with Eric Funkhouser's teeth.
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$10.00
http://www.gatorland.com/public/experiences/rookie-wrestling/index.cfm (http://www.gatorland.com/public/experiences/rookie-wrestling/index.cfm)
The gators mouth is already taped shut.
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Fed by canals and creeks where crocs nest and live. We have some good news and some bad news. The bad news is your son is gone. The good news is that soon you'll be multi-millionaires and you can always have another baby!
First sign is the one at the Disney resort. The second one is not far at the Hyatt.
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not sure on the numbers but i think they have pulled 4 gators out of that lake or near by swamps and gutted them to see if they can find the boys remains
... wonder if the father will ask for all that skin to remember his dumb ass left his toddler in a gator swamp in florida
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Was this beach or lake on Walt Disney property? Or was it separate? Why would Disney make a lake with a croc in it?
Alligator
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Here in SW FL, many of us live on canals. they're little man-made roads which run parallel to the main roads, and allow people in any part of the city to have access to the Gulf Of Mexico from their backyards. Kinda a way to have beachfront property for 10,000 people living in mainland.
We have gator sightings all the time. I train the kiddies to run zig zag, watch out for the little ones, and jump on a car hood or other elevated surface. Those gators climb out of canals and eat leashed animals sometimes.
Also coyotes, panthers, balck bears. I was riding shotgun with a girl that actually hit a bear a few years ago. Ran outta the woods. I almost hit a coyote on the way to the gym last year, a whole pack of them just running the neighborhoods.
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Eddie Murphy has had a rough couple weeks.
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Here in SW FL, many of us live on canals. they're little man-made roads which run parallel to the main roads, and allow people in any part of the city to have access to the Gulf Of Mexico from their backyards. Kinda a way to have beachfront property for 10,000 people living in mainland.
We have gator sightings all the time. I train the kiddies to run zig zag, watch out for the little ones, and jump on a car hood or other elevated surface. Those gators climb out of canals and eat leashed animals sometimes.
Are the little ones the worst?
Or do you mean that if the kids are too close to the lil gators, that's when the Gators feel threatened and attack?
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yep, the little kids. Gator can get a 5 year old, they're extremely strong. and they surprise you where they show up. back porches, under cars, just the weirdest spots.
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yep, the little kids. Gator can get a 5 year old, they're extremely strong. and they surprise you where they show up. back porches, under cars, just the weirdest spots.
and adults
http://www.wptv.com/news/state/florida-man-eaten-by-11-foot-alligator-after-jumping-in-pond-to-hide-after-suspected-burglary
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and adults
http://www.wptv.com/news/state/florida-man-eaten-by-11-foot-alligator-after-jumping-in-pond-to-hide-after-suspected-burglary
people do the dumbest shit in this state.
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Ban Florida
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What a shitty week for Florida.
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Ban Florida
Are you sure about that? We have some hot mugshot girls here.
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i hear they make good pets great protection esp. if you have a moat. ::) ::) ::)
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i hear they make good pets great protection esp. if you have a moat. ::) ::) ::)
The second pic if photoshopped. In the original pic, the gater is smaller.
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Ban alligators.
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I haven't heard a single person condemning the parents for neglecting their child....yet where the child fell into the gorilla pit, every body was quick to blame the Mother. Same amount of neglect, different outcome.
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I haven't heard a single person condemning the parents for neglecting their child....yet where the child fell into the gorilla pit, every body was quick to blame the Mother. Same amount of neglect, different outcome.
People are fighting about this all over social media.
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when in florida, stay away from any bodies of water or you're toast
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It sucks that places like that don't have signs and shit warning about alligators and warning people to stay out of the water.
they mentioned there were " no swimming" sign posted, but I believe that's not enough.....it's in disney's property and they should have posted there were Alligators in the pound and to stay away at all cost.....can't wait to see what the lawyers will come up with
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I haven't heard a single person condemning the parents for neglecting their child....yet where the child fell into the gorilla pit, every body was quick to blame the Mother. Same amount of neglect, different outcome.
You literally didn't have to look any further than the top of this page.
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gators are part of the draw/excitement to tourists.
there are stops all over the Everglades, on the way to the keys, with "Stop and see a gator" at rest stops.
FL parents are usually very good at watching for gators. Nebraska tourists just didn't think. That poor dad, fought it and still lost. tragic. the place should have had very big signs about the gators, they knew they were there, the visitors didn't.
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gators are part of the draw/excitement to tourists.
there are stops all over the Everglades, on the way to the keys, with "Stop and see a gator" at rest stops.
FL parents are usually very good at watching for gators. Nebraska tourists just didn't think. That poor dad, fought it and still lost. tragic. the place should have had very big signs about the gators, they knew they were there, the visitors didn't.
Was in Florida last year, for the first time since we had our daughter. Were at Disney World for 4 days and then went out to Vero Beach to stay with some of my wife's friends. I felt so on edge when they were describing their encounters with wildlife to us. People claim that urban coyotes are a growing problem here in NYC, but I've yet to see any evidence of it personally. I did see a roaming pack of them in a Florida backyard.
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Was in Florida last year, for the first time since we had our daughter. Were at Disney World for 4 days and then went out to Vero Beach to stay with some of my wife's friends. I felt so on edge when they were describing their encounters with wildlife to us. People claim that urban coyotes are a growing problem here in NYC, but I've yet to see any evidence of it personally. I did see a roaming pack of them in a Florida backyard.
coyotes 1-2 times a year. panthers used to creep onto my FGCU campus in fall 97 when they opened, but massive strip mall shopping centers killed all that. black bears, all the time. those crazy f**ker burrowing owls that attack anyone that comes within 100 feet of whatever hill or mailbox they claim. snakes. those darn spiders. a trillion ants per square mile.
oh, and the lightning. And 92 degrees but "feels like" 102 by the weather channel.
Still, FL is awesome.
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Was in Florida last year, for the first time since we had our daughter. Were at Disney World for 4 days and then went out to Vero Beach to stay with some of my wife's friends. I felt so on edge when they were describing their encounters with wildlife to us. People claim that urban coyotes are a growing problem here in NYC, but I've yet to see any evidence of it personally. I did see a roaming pack of them in a Florida backyard.
I have town forest behind me here in NH and have always had wooded properties. I've seen it all from bears to moose and last night could hear coyotes howling pretty close by.
Turkeys seem to be a daily occurrence of late.
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I haven't heard a single person condemning the parents for neglecting their child....yet where the child fell into the gorilla pit, every body was quick to blame the Mother. Same amount of neglect, different outcome.
Obvious difference between an animal locked inside an enclosure, and one just going about its business unrestrained.
Child neglect all the same, but vastly different circumstances that don't warrant the drawing of a parallel.
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I haven't heard a single person condemning the parents for neglecting their child....yet where the child fell into the gorilla pit, every body was quick to blame the Mother. Same amount of neglect, different outcome.
Obvious difference between an animal locked inside an enclosure, and one just going about its business unrestrained.
Child neglect all the same, but vastly different circumstances that don't warrant the drawing of a parallel.
Definitely a parallel IMO .
It's Florida for cripes sake. You don't need to be a resident to know there are gators everywhere. While very tragic, the parents should be held negligent and liable. There were signs saying NO SWIMMING, yet they allowed their toddler to go in, undoubtedly without water wings or any other type life preserver. The kid could've just as easily drown. It's a resort! It's in Florida! I'm sure there are POOLS for swimming. The signs said no swimming PERIOD. Why does it need to be pointed out WHY? It's a rule, yet they chose to ignore it. >:(
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It's Florida for cripes sake. You don't need to be a resident to know there are gators everywhere. While very tragic, the parents should be held negligent and liable. There were signs saying NO SWIMMING, yet they allowed their toddler to go in, undoubtedly without water wings or any other type life preserver. The kid could've just as easily drown. It's a resort! It's in Florida! I'm sure there are POOLS for swimming. The signs said no swimming PERIOD. Why does it need to be pointed out WHY? It's a rule, yet they chose to ignore it. >:(
This
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You literally didn't have to look any further than the top of this page.
There is nothing at the top of this page or this thread regarding my post.
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It's Florida for cripes sake. You don't need to be a resident to know there are gators everywhere. While very tragic, the parents should be held negligent and liable. There were signs saying NO SWIMMING, yet they allowed their toddler to go in, undoubtedly without water wings or any other type life preserver. The kid could've just as easily drown. It's a resort! It's in Florida! I'm sure there are POOLS for swimming. The signs said no swimming PERIOD. Why does it need to be pointed out WHY? It's a rule, yet they chose to ignore it. >:(
I've seen this argument repeated all over the place. Couldn't disagree more. Gators just aren't something you think about when you're from outside of Florida and you don't really think of dangerous wildlife encroaching on your Disney vacation. They don't even let garbage or off-duty characters loose in the park. As for the "no swimming" thing, a further explanation would have definitely made a difference. If you're not thinking about dangerous wildlife, the biggest danger you're thinking of is probably no lifeguard on duty or something like that. Under those circumstances, there is a significant difference between allowing your kid to swim and allowing them to get their feet wet while you are a dozen yards away. If the hazard is as serious as a potential gator attack, the warning should not be that open-ended.
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There is nothing at the top of this page or this thread regarding my post.
Someone must have deleted something. It is now the last post on page 1.
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Obvious difference between an animal locked inside an enclosure, and one just going about its business unrestrained.
Child neglect all the same, but vastly different circumstances that don't warrant the drawing of a parallel.
My point is that the incident at the Zoo, everyone attacked the mother for neglect......in this instance no one did. In my opinion this is worse because as was mentioned....everyone should know there are gators in Florida.
At the Zoo though, should the Mother be expected to know her child could somehow get in the Gorilla enclosure? I'm just wondering if that child had died if there would be more sympathy and less anger towards the mother?
Anyway, just making an observation because I find people funny that way.
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That poor dad, fought it and still lost.
Dude is divorcing for sure. When something comes to eat the offspring you either have to fight it off or die trying. Those are the rules. There's no story that will justify otherwise. He fought it until he got bitten (meaning the kid wasn't in the gator's mouth), then he chickened out, backed off, and let it take the kid. There was an actual moment when he watched it approach the kid, chomp on, and slide back into the water dragging the kid, all while he stood there and watched. Fuck that guy.
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/15/us/alligator-attacks-child-disney-florida/ (http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/15/us/alligator-attacks-child-disney-florida/)
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They said the body was found intact. Don't wild animals usually kill for a meal? Wonder why the gator just killed. Perhaps he felt threatened? ??? ??? ???
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They said the body was found intact. Don't wild animals usually kill for a meal? Wonder why the gator just killed. Perhaps he felt threatened? ??? ??? ???
Could've gotten scared by the man/gator hunt. Also certain times if a meal is too large or tough, they'll stash it, and till it softens and rots a bit to make it easier to eat.
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Was in Florida last year, for the first time since we had our daughter. Were at Disney World for 4 days and then went out to Vero Beach to stay with some of my wife's friends. I felt so on edge when they were describing their encounters with wildlife to us. People claim that urban coyotes are a growing problem here in NYC, but I've yet to see any evidence of it personally. I did see a roaming pack of them in a Florida backyard.
here in pa we got a lot of these coyotes running lose. just saw a pack of 5-6 of these guys the other day.
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Could've gotten scared by the man/gator hunt. Also certain times if a meal is too large or tough, they'll stash it, and till it softens and rots a bit to make it easier to eat.
The fight with the father and mother could have scared it off, too. I've been reading that alligators tend to be more opportunistic than predatory, so an unexpected fight could have turned his appetite.
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I've seen this argument repeated all over the place. Couldn't disagree more. Gators just aren't something you think about when you're from outside of Florida and you don't really think of dangerous wildlife encroaching on your Disney vacation. They don't even let garbage or off-duty characters loose in the park. As for the "no swimming" thing, a further explanation would have definitely made a difference. If you're not thinking about dangerous wildlife, the biggest danger you're thinking of is probably no lifeguard on duty or something like that. Under those circumstances, there is a significant difference between allowing your kid to swim and allowing them to get their feet wet while you are a dozen yards away. If the hazard is as serious as a potential gator attack, the warning should not be that open-ended.
IT'S A LAGOON. Man made or otherwise. Who knows what could be lurking in there ~ snapping turtle, snakes, leaches... (don't know if any of those things are down there) but still foolish to let your kid wander into unknown territory where it's CLEARLY POSTED not to PERIOD. Heck, there's gators roaming golf courses. You hit your ball into the rough, are you just gonna reach your hand in there without thinking twice, or do you need to be told "hey, there might be fire ants in there or nesting wildlife? Just 'cause the name "Disney" is part of it doesn't make it all sterile and fantasyland.
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here in pa we got a lot of these coyotes running lose. just saw a pack of 5-6 of these guys the other day.
I'm originally from PA, but haven't been there in about 20 years. I used to go bikeriding on nature trails with my friends all the time, but don't remember seeing any wildlife in the area. Allegedly, coyote packs are a problem in a lot of areas of the country. My apartment is about 5 minutes away from central park, and I've read that there is a huge coyote population lurking in the area and they've snatched up smaller dogs as they were being walked by their owners. I've yet to see anything with my own eyes that makes me believe this. It sounds surreal, though.
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They say bad things come in 3's!
The kid being eaten by the gator was bad. The other two events actually offer a lot of hope and promise.
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They said the body was found intact. Don't wild animals usually kill for a meal? Wonder why the gator just killed. Perhaps he felt threatened? ??? ??? ???
If no teeth marks are found on the boy, then it sounds like the poor boy either drowned or the father maybe ? k...ed him? and blamed it on a gator ??? It wa in the middle of the night , did anyone else beside the father see the gator? Maybe life is hard in cornland and wanted to be set for life with micky mouse money? I know , im reaching right?
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IT'S A LAGOON. Man made or otherwise. Who knows what could be lurking in there ~ snapping turtle, snakes, leaches... (don't know if any of those things are down there) but still foolish to let your kid wander into unknown territory where it's CLEARLY POSTED not to PERIOD. Heck, there's gators roaming golf courses. You hit your ball into the rough, are you just gonna reach your hand in there without thinking twice, or do you need to be told "hey, there might be fire ants in there or nesting wildlife?
It's a manmade lagoon at Disney-world. There is a presumption of safety that you wouldn't necessarily expect elsewhere. Whether or not you consider it foolish is one thing. Where I take exception with your previous post is your assertion that the parents should be held negligent and liable and that what happened is something that any reasonable person could have predicted. It really isn't. Someone familiar with florida, sure, but out-of-towners in that environment would not be thinking about stuff like that.
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I'm originally from PA, but haven't been there in about 20 years. I used to go bikeriding on nature trails with my friends all the time, but don't remember seeing any wildlife in the area. Allegedly, coyote packs are a problem in a lot of areas of the country. My apartment is about 5 minutes away from central park, and I've read that there is a huge coyote population lurking in the area and they've snatched up smaller dogs as they were being walked by their owners. I've yet to see anything with my own eyes that makes me believe this. It sounds surreal, though.
It happens. Even where I live, they're all over, but I've RARELY seen them (hear them all the time), yet people think they can just put up an "invisible fence" and their pet will be safe. ::) Safe from running out into the road, but not safe from whatever coming in.
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It's a manmade lagoon at Disney-world. There is a presumption of safety that you wouldn't necessarily expect elsewhere. Whether or not you consider it foolish is one thing. Where I take exception with your previous post is your assertion that the parents should be held negligent and liable and that what happened is something that any reasonable person could have predicted. It really isn't. Someone familiar with florida, sure, but out-of-towners in that environment would not be thinking about stuff like that.
So it it should be all pristine, sterile and chemicalized? No? If not, then what kind of crap could be contracted on or through the skin? Signs said no swimming. Period.
We'll just agree to disagree on this one.
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It happens. Even where I live, they're all over, but I've RARELY seen them (hear them all the time), yet people think they can just put up an "invisible fence" and their pet will be safe. ::) Safe from running out into the road, but not safe from whatever coming in.
That's exactly why I have never used invisible fence living near the woods. Heck one day I didn't see this in the yard until my Boston ran right past it. I took this pic when it climbed up a willow in my yard.
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That's exactly why I have never used invisible fence living near the woods. Heck one day I didn't see this in the yard until my Boston ran right past it. I took this pic when it climbed up a willow in my yard.
Is that a porcupine?
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Is that a porcupine?
Yes it is.
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here in pa we got a lot of these coyotes running lose. just saw a pack of 5-6 of these guys the other day.
Coyotes are harmless. I always hear them howling from my bedroom window. They are all over the place.
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It has 80s hair.
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$10.00
http://www.gatorland.com/public/experiences/rookie-wrestling/index.cfm (http://www.gatorland.com/public/experiences/rookie-wrestling/index.cfm)
I live right up the road from gatorland. Very popular spot.
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It has 80s hair.
;D
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So it it should be all pristine, sterile and chemicalized? No? If not, then what kind of crap could be contracted on or through the skin? Signs said no swimming. Period.
We'll just agree to disagree on this one.
That's fine. However, the issue with me is not the possibility of encountering random hazards, but the likelihood of one very specific hazard. The one that you addressed in your initial post and said the parents should be held liable for.
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One coyote is harmless, but a pack is very dangerous.
Also, it seems like some people blame the parents for allowing their child to play in a few inches of water, but everyone allows their kids to play in the ocean where there are plenty of hungry sharks that might make a snack out of them.
I see parents allowing their children to do risky things all the time sooner or later something bad may happen.
Nevertheless as a parent I can't imagine losing one of my children this way
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Damn Gators are even on the Golf course in Florida.
(https://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/ad_208084826.jpg?w=748&h=420&crop=1)
http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/06/01/giant-alligator-golf-course-clip-newday.cnn (http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/06/01/giant-alligator-golf-course-clip-newday.cnn)
That's a big fucking Gator
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What a bunch of fucking idiot parents. Poor kid.
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Parents likely killed him and just using the alligator story.
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The gator at 28 seconds is fake. Its photoshopped.
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Definitely a parallel IMO .
It's Florida for cripes sake. You don't need to be a resident to know there are gators everywhere. While very tragic, the parents should be held negligent and liable. There were signs saying NO SWIMMING, yet they allowed their toddler to go in, undoubtedly without water wings or any other type life preserver. The kid could've just as easily drown. It's a resort! It's in Florida! I'm sure there are POOLS for swimming. The signs said no swimming PERIOD. Why does it need to be pointed out WHY? It's a rule, yet they chose to ignore it. >:(
100% valid points. I have no arguments at all.
However it is Disney's most expensive park and there was a lifeguard on duty (unless I'm completely mistaken), both of which could cause a sense of false security.
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What a bunch of fucking idiot parents. Poor kid.
agreed. sorry but what kind of parent lets their 2 year old wade at 930 at night in murky water in florida? wtf? pisses me off to no end. I spent a lot of time in florida growing up and their are gators everywhere. even caught one while bass fishing once (4 footer although at that smaller size they are mostly tail). grabbed my topwater rapala at dawn. released it no problem. was able to grab it behind head and use long pliers to get the hooks out of its mouth
poor little guy :'(
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Just so all of you know, I am on team Gator.
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Kid was probably not going to write the great American novel or win a Nobel Prize anyway.
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Kid was probably not going to write the great American novel or win a Nobel Prize anyway.
The gator even spit him out. :-\
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If no teeth marks are found on the boy, then it sounds like the poor boy either drowned or the father maybe ? k...ed him? and blamed it on a gator ??? It wa in the middle of the night , did anyone else beside the father see the gator? Maybe life is hard in cornland and wanted to be set for life with micky mouse money? I know , im reaching right?
lol....anything is possible...you never know....people are evil....Evidence never lies
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here in pa we got a lot of these coyotes running lose. just saw a pack of 5-6 of these guys the other day.
which is more fun....facing a pack of coyotes or a pack of Dingos?.....don't let their looks fool ya ...the dingos I mean
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Parents likely killed him and just using the alligator story.
Although I'm not into conspiracy theories... Did anyone else see the alligator and/or an alligator grabbing a kid? He was found in about 6 feet of water 10-15 feet from shore. Intact.
Would an alligator grab prey without chomping on it, or grabbing it and then spitting it out (if it was edible)?
Not saying he wasn't grabbed, but who else saw this besides the parents? I haven't seen anything in the reports online yet
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Although I'm not into conspiracy theories... Did anyone else see the alligator and/or an alligator grabbing a kid? He was found in about 6 feet of water 10-15 feet from shore. Intact.
Would an alligator grab prey without chomping on it, or grabbing it and then spitting it out (if it was edible)?
Not saying he wasn't grabbed, but who else saw this besides the parents? I haven't seen anything in the reports online yet
The authorities should easily be able to find bite marks of the kid was indeed taken by an alligator. It just seems odd the gator would take the kid and not eat him.
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Dude is divorcing for sure. When something comes to eat the offspring you either have to fight it off or die trying. Those are the rules. There's no story that will justify otherwise. He fought it until he got bitten (meaning the kid wasn't in the gator's mouth), then he chickened out, backed off, and let it take the kid. There was an actual moment when he watched it approach the kid, chomp on, and slide back into the water dragging the kid, all while he stood there and watched. Fuck that guy.
Did he get bit? If so, yeah I agree. We don't know for sure how it went down but it sounds like he didn't go 100%. Alligators are nowhere near as big/strong as crocs and you'd have a fair chance at beating one if you attack his eyes at least
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One coyote is harmless, but a pack is very dangerous.
Also, it seems like some people blame the parents for allowing their child to play in a few inches of water, but everyone allows their kids to play in the ocean where there are plenty of hungry sharks that might make a snack out of them.
I see parents allowing their children to do risky things all the time sooner or later something bad may happen.
Nevertheless as a parent I can't imagine losing one of my children this way
Sharks don't attack near as often as alligators or crocs. Crocs kill roughly 168 times more people every year and can get you on land/shore and by surprise
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Ohhhhhh, Gator Country
Little bit of that chomp, chomp...
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Brilliante!
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So the dad received "minor injuries to the hand." What does that even mean?
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They killed five gators so I think we know what Disney's new policy will be.
Florida Wildlife Conservation Commission executive director Nick Wiley added: "We're going to look at the five alligators we have taken. There's a good chance we already have the alligator because we focused our efforts on that proximity and that area where this occurred. If we can't get a certain match we're going to do everything to make sure we have taken that alligator out."
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So the dad received "minor injuries to the hand." What does that even mean?
you don't know what minor injuries mean?
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So the dad received "minor injuries to the hand." What does that even mean?
Examples of Minor injuries include:
Sprains & Strains
Broken Bones
Arm and leg injuries
Cuts and grazes, burns and scalds
Eye injuries
Minor head injuries
Insect and animal bites
Allergic reactions
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Examples of Minor injuries include:
Sprains & Strains
Broken Bones
Arm and leg injuries
Cuts and grazes, burns and scalds
Eye injuries
Minor head injuries
Insect and animal bites
Allergic reactions
sounds like the dad didn't wrestle too hard
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sounds like the dad didn't wrestle too hard
Dad should have had an Ar15
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Gorilla. Now, gator. Some good parenting going on.
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Gorilla. Now, gator. Some good parenting going on.
Parenting mistakes happen. There are a lot of child deaths from parental mistakes, (e.g., kid falls down stairs, hit by car, accidentally drops something on his or her self). On the other hand, letting your 2 year old child wander near the edge of the water in Florida seems a little careless.
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I was out with friends on one of their groves about 12 years back. Found a gator. Too close to the children and animals, he shot it. I'm sure it was illegal as shit, and I'm sure he should have called authorities to remove it. He hated when they showed up, as no hills to prevent them from eating his children. It happened so fast, there was nothing to talk him down. 2 head shots from about 25 feet, rolled over and died. Still fcks with me, It wasn't bothering anyone, but it would have eaten his children and was only 1/8 mile from his doorstep.
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Parenting mistakes happen. There are a lot of child deaths from parental mistakes, (e.g., kid falls down stairs, hit by car, accidentally drops something on his or her self). On the other hand, letting your 2 year old child wander near the edge of the water in Florida seems a little careless.
At night especially and I can speak from a parental perspective. A two year old is very unpredictable!
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I was out with friends on one of their groves about 12 years back. Found a gator. Too close to the children and animals, he shot it. I'm sure it was illegal as shit, and I'm sure he should have called authorities to remove it. He hated when they showed up, as no hills to prevent them from eating his children. It happened so fast, there was nothing to talk him down. 2 head shots from about 25 feet, rolled over and died. Still fcks with me, It wasn't bothering anyone, but it would have eaten his children and was only 1/8 mile from his doorstep.
... but FL is awesome!
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100% valid points. I have no arguments at all.
However it is Disney's most expensive park and there was a lifeguard on duty (unless I'm completely mistaken), both of which could cause a sense of false security.
There was a lifeguard nearby at the swimming pool. No lifeguard on duty at the lagoon because it's a NO SWIMMING zone. It's 9:00 at night and you let your toddler venture into a foot of dark water? WTF? How tall is a typical 2 year old? Not even a yardstick, and you let him go into a water level 1/3 his body height without holding on to him?
"Authorities said the boy waded into no more than 1 or 2 feet of water in the lagoon around nightfall Tuesday when he was taken from a small beach. The boy's father desperately tried to fight off the gator, suffering cuts on a hand, but he could not save his son. Neither could a nearby lifeguard, officials said.
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2016/06/orlando_alligator_attack_charg.html
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100% valid points. I have no arguments at all.
However it is Disney's most expensive park and there was a lifeguard on duty (unless I'm completely mistaken), both of which could cause a sense of false security.
Then you do have some arguments. I can understand if someone thinks "Sad for the parents, but this was a preventable situation." But the truth is the setting and where the people involved originate from DO make a do make a difference.
I'm not saying they are legally liable, but honestly, why do you think Disney declined to specify alligators on the warning signs? Because they didn't want alligators to be something that families enjoying a Disney World vacay thought about.
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i know a lot of people that smuggle weed into Disney using their vape things.
Not related, but I felt the need to share this.
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Did he get bit? If so, yeah I agree. We don't know for sure how it went down but it sounds like he didn't go 100%. Alligators are nowhere near as big/strong as crocs and you'd have a fair chance at beating one if you attack his eyes at least
Nice to theorize about it while lying on a sofa with a tablet...
Most people filch with an angry dog.
But yes, with your offsprings life on the line, maybe. Hopefully I'd say.
I'm starting to believe it's the parents.
My kids weren't even awake anymore in that hour at that age, let alone out, by the water, alone.
Maybe something happened before and dad wen't to feed him to " fishes " who knows?
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Nice to theorize about it while lying on a sofa with a tablet...
Most people filch with an angry dog.
But yes, with your offsprings life on the line, maybe. Hopefully I'd say.
I'm starting to believe it's the parents.
My kids weren't even awake anymore in that hour at that age, let alone out, by the water, alone.
Maybe something happened before and dad wen't to feed him to " fishes " who knows?
I hope you don't mean im a keyboard warrior, the lad from last weekend in the club with his jaw burst open certainly doesn't. If an alligator attacks a family member im all in, 100% committed to the death. But that's just cos I have a death wish lately
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No.
I just said that it is nice to theorize differences fighting with animals most people have only seen on National Geographig.
One could also wrestle with a chimp or what have you.
Would you have jumped in to that Gorilla pit on the news a while back?
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I hope you don't mean im a keyboard warrior, the lad from last weekend in the club with his jaw burst open certainly doesn't. If an alligator attacks a family member im all in, 100% committed to the death. But that's just cos I have a death wish lately
Alligator would eat you as a snack and then shit you out like you were worthless calories.
Amusing to think you could take on an alligator. ::)
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I wonder how many millions Disney is going to pay the family to settle. What price can you put on a 2 year old child?
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I wonder how many millions Disney is going to pay the family to settle. What price can you put on a 2 year old child?
I'm sure they have a team of lawyers offering 5+ million to never do an interview, never talk about it again.
One 20/20 interview (or whatever is hot these days) will cost them tens of millions of dollars.
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I hope you don't mean im a keyboard warrior, the lad from last weekend in the club with his jaw burst open certainly doesn't. If an alligator attacks a family member im all in, 100% committed to the death. But that's just cos I have a death wish lately
Alligators and crocodiles have basically the strongest jaw strength there is, nearly 20 times a humans, if one bites a loved one and decides not to let go then no human on earth is going to do shit with their bare hands
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I wonder how many millions Disney is going to pay the family to settle. What price can you put on a 2 year old child?
$18,262.15
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I hope you don't mean im a keyboard warrior, the lad from last weekend in the club with his jaw burst open certainly doesn't. If an alligator attacks a family member im all in, 100% committed to the death. But that's just cos I have a death wish lately
Is this the part of the thread where we shift gears and ask about your weekend?
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Alligator would eat you as a snack and then shit you out like you were worthless calories.
Amusing to think you could take on an alligator. ::)
Well, Irish Dave is a getbigger. He may stand a chance against this alligator.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Large_american_crocodile.jpg)
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i know a lot of people that smuggle weed into Disney using their vape things.
Not related, but I felt the need to share this.
Only for medical reasons. ;)
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Maybe we oughta buy an alligator and then fly "IrishDave" over here to fight it so we can watch him die.
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Kill all the gators they catch
Rip their teeth out and gouge out their eyes while it's alive
Then skin them alive
They serve no purpose except to murder people
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I just really have to wonder if a sign saying simply
Warning: alligators live in these waters.
Would make a difference?
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I just really have to wonder if a sign saying simply
Warning: alligators live in these waters.
Would make a difference?
The Hyatt has them up the road.
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The Hyiatt has them up the road.
Do you think there's a reason the Hyatt signs mention alligators, but the Disney signs don't?
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Do you think there's a reason the Hyatt signs mention alligators, but the Disney signs don't?
Maybe more alligator activity (less monitoring) or just want to cover all bases.
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'2 year old eaten by a gator at Disney World'
lol
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from what i understand alligators run pretty fucking fast to
you cant outrun them , if they want to eat you they are going to
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from what i understand alligators run pretty fucking fast to
you cant outrun them , if they want to eat you they are going to
Smaller ones yes...They can move. You better be on your shit bc they can hit 20+ mph. Big ones are slow
Gators usually don't fk with human unless you feed them or are near their nest....or an un supervised 2 year old knee deep in a fkn lagoon 9pm at night in the area where I'm sure people have fed them prior
Rip little homie
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Smaller ones yes...They can move. You better be on your shit bc they can hit 20+ mph. Big ones are slow
Gators usually don't fk with human unless you feed them or are near their nest....or an un supervised 2 year old knee deep in a fkn lagoon 9pm at night in the area where I'm sure people have fed them prior
Rip little homie
hey k-1 i lived in florida for a lil while back in the 80's as a kid
and the first thing they told me was never ever go into a lake alligators live there ! i shit you not. i was only allowed to swim in a pool or supervised at the ocean lake was a big no no
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Maybe more alligator activity (less monitoring) or just want to cover all bases.
Possibly. How do you think families at Disney World would react if there were "Beware of Alligator" signs posted there? Considering how the rest of the park is run, does it seem unlikely that it was a strategic decision?
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from what i understand alligators run pretty fucking fast to
you cant outrun them , if they want to eat you they are going to
yes. you have to zig and zag.
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hey k-1 i lived in florida for a lil while back in the 80's as a kid
and the first thing they told me was never ever go into a lake alligators live there ! i shit you not. i was only allowed to swim in a pool or supervised at the ocean lake was a big no no
It's a rule of thumb no doubt. I grew up in Louisiana...same rules apply buy they aren't as rampant like Florida you know where they are in la.
Florida they can show up in your driveway lol.
Back home when I was young my neighbors fished a lot. One day they never came back. They decided to fish in an area with gators...Their coast caught fire....They tried to swim to shore...ended up being dinner.
Four wives lost their husband that day. Was crazy.
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yes. you have to zig and zag.
This!
And pray that fkr gets tired faster than you and isn't that hungry lol
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100-1 Disney does not offer the "grieving parents" a refund.
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It's a rule of thumb no doubt. I grew up in Louisiana...same rules apply buy they aren't as rampant like Florida you know where they are in la.
Florida they can show up in your driveway lol.
Back home when I was young my neighbors fished a lot. One day they never came back. They decided to fish in an area with gators...Their coast caught fire....They tried to swim to shore...ended up being dinner.
Four wives lost their husband that day. Was crazy.
k-1 are you a fan of k-1?
cause i love that stuff i actually have all there shows man the 90's was such a great era for hw kick boxing with hug, lebannge, hoost, greco , aerts, bernardo
i miss those times
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Possibly. How do you think families at Disney World would react if there were "Beware of Alligator" signs posted there? Considering how the rest of the park is run, does it seem unlikely that it was a strategic decision?
I went to Disney a lot with my daughter and honestly I would want to know. However, I never let her near that water because it seemed dirty, I assumed gators lived in it and there was a sign. I have no clue why they would create a beach in an area where swimming is not allowed. ???
Nothing ever happened so I'm surmising they thought it would be less alarming just to have this sign.
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k-1 are you a fan of k-1?
cause i love that stuff i actually have all there shows man the 90's was such a great era for hw kick boxing with hug, lebannge, hoost, greco , aerts, bernardo
i miss those times
Yep love it..used to be hooked watching that era on espn.
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Well, Irish Dave is a getbigger. He may stand a chance against this alligator.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Large_american_crocodile.jpg)
About 6,000,000 years of evolution to become an exceptional killing machine!
Wouldn't stand a chance against IrishDave.....
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About 6,000,000 years of evolution to become an exceptional killing machine!
Wouldn't stand a chance against IrishDave.....
Irish Dave would drop kick his head, then drop an elbow on his body. Afterward, he would get him in a head lock, tie up his legs, then triumphantly claim victory over the massive beast!!
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He was hungry.
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Kill all the gators they catch
Rip their teeth out and gouge out their eyes while it's alive
Then skin them alive
They serve no purpose except to murder people
Ouch! And funnily enough, for some reason your statement reads veeerrry very similarly to some of the ones you occasionally direct towards people involved with Blackstone LOL
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Where the kid was snatched is the very same spot I proposed to my wife.
It's nuts. I lived in Orlando for over 3 years we would see gators everywhere.
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Where the kid was snatched is the very same spot I proposed to my wife.
It's nuts. I lived in Orlando for over 3 years we would see gators everywhere.
They don't eat your kind.
They're not that hard up for food!
;D
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They don't eat your kind.
Redskins fans?
I can't blame the gators for that.
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Redskins fans?
I can't blame the gators for that.
He's a Redskins fan?
His poor father, I'm surprised there hasnt been an honor killing by now.
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He's a Redskins fan?
His poor father, I'm surprised there hasnt been an honor killing by now.
hähä
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About 6,000,000 years of evolution to become an exceptional killing machine!
Wouldn't stand a chance against IrishDave.....
Walter, I'm surprised by you. I would get annihalated by a croc, absolutely wrecked in the water. I've seen what they can do to buffalo and gazelles in 20 seconds flat at a river crossing. But if a 6-foot alligator has my kid I'll do my utmost. Yeah, I'm probably not coming back out of the water but how could you live with yourself
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Irish Dave would drop kick his head, then drop an elbow on his body. Afterward, he would get him in a head lock, tie up his legs, then triumphantly claim victory over the massive beast!!
Damn fucking right, I'd GnP him worse than Brock Mir 2 ;D
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Redskins fans?
I can't blame the gators for that.
Pretty sure even gators wouldn't touch any of Snyder.
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I've undestand that both gators and crocs have surprisingly weak muscles for Opening the jaws?
Knowledge that has abolutely zero use when its got your kid already in its teeth...
And ofcourse it might just be a little uncooperative to let you hold its maw shut 😀
Intresting point straight out of the ( late ) Crocodile Hunter.
If a croc is trying to escape it will die from latctic acid cased heart attack within few minutes.
It has no restrictive system that wouldn tell it to ease up and gather strenght or catch a breath.
Basically Heavy Duty getbigger!
One all out set to failure!
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It's a small meal after all.
Sorry.
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It's a small meal after all.
Sorry.
I laughed.
//what's it like in hell? ;D
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Nothing ever happened so I'm surmising they thought it would be less alarming just to have this sign.
Wasn't trying to hassle you, but this is what I was getting at. Some posters keep saying that it should have been obvious that gators were a threat, but it's not unreasonable to assume that the wording of the sign was a purposeful decision: keep it as vague as possible to keep the experience as Disney as possible.
Meanwhile, a mother whose child was playing on the beach about a half-hour before the attack released some pictures in support of the parents. Her son was playing in the exact same spot as the child who was killed.
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2016/news/160627/jennifer-venditti-2-600.jpg)
(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2016/news/160627/jennifer-venditti-600.jpg)
"Not at all did that cross my mind that there would be alligators in that area," Venditti Roye says.
She says the area wasn't crowded before the attack. Families were spread out – most kids, like hers, moving back and forth between the lagoon, the splash pad and the adjacent pool. "It's a very small area," Venditti Roye says. "You could actually sit at one of the chairs and watch your child run from [each area], and that's what a lot of people were doing."
Venditti Roye says the resort's high standards made her feel safe.
http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20981907_21013168,00.html
I'm not going to post the whole thing, but it's basically just reasonable stuff that any parent would think and multiple parents on that day thought.
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that does look like its inviting you to put your feet in the water
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that does look like its inviting you to put your feet in the water
Yes it does. Whether he was 2 inches in or just standing on the edge not in the water I think that gator would have grabbed him anyway. I've seen them come out of the water and snatch small dogs. Should have been more than a no swimming sign for sure. This will be settled out of court but Disney needs to be forced to put up signs stating the dangers of gator attacks. I wouldn't bring my child to the area no matter what.
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It's been said that a lot of guests staying at that Disney Orlando resort are asking for refunds on their stay, claiming they have been traumatized by the events there.
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It is the parents!
I mean if they really found the body.
Disney/insurance company will dig deep to find evidence.
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It is the parents!
I mean if they really found the body.
Disney/insurance company will dig deep to find evidence.
Evidence of what the kid was standing 2 inches in water and an alligator took him? No way Disney will fight this it would make them look really bad. They are more concerned about future profits than paying these guys a couple million.
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Their own ad for the resort
(http://ll-media.tmz.com/2016/06/17/0615-floridian-disney-3.jpg)
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It's a small meal after all.
Sorry.
Don't apologize. You have amused me.
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Evidence of what the kid was standing 2 inches in water and an alligator took him? No way Disney will fight this it would make them look really bad. They are more concerned about future profits than paying these guys a couple million.
This. Can you imagine if Disney fought this? Damn, the backlash they would receive would be pretty bad. Walt Disney Company has a net income of 8.30 billion dollars. I suspect they will give the couple a few million and be done with it. They will not fight this.
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Disney/insurance company will dig deep to find evidence.
I see what you did there.
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Their new movie about the snow glass ice sister bitches will probably bring in twice as much in the first hour in theaters than the settlement to the parents
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I haven't heard a single person condemning the parents for neglecting their child....yet where the child fell into the gorilla pit, every body was quick to blame the Mother. Same amount of neglect, different outcome.
At the zoo, you're expecting lots of kids visiting to see wild animals.... (the zoo should know better )
At Disney resort; you're supposed to relax and enjoy vacation time with family..... turns out it has some hidden danger , and you must find the worst way imaginable ...
Woooshhhhhhhhh
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Evidence of what the kid was standing 2 inches in water and an alligator took him? No way Disney will fight this it would make them look really bad. They are more concerned about future profits than paying these guys a couple million.
This. Can you imagine if Disney fought this? Damn, the backlash they would receive would be pretty bad. Walt Disney Company has a net income of 8.30 billion dollars. I suspect they will give the couple a few million and be done with it. They will not fight this.
Yes, ok. I didn't think it that far.
Still. Isn't 9:30 dark, basically night time, already. What the fuck was the kid doing there?
I know sharks don't usually eat people after the first bite. They realize that there is simply too little to eat.
Do crocks do that?
Somebody posted that the body was found with little if any bite marks...
What the fuck! ( like Piana says it )
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Yes it does. Whether he was 2 inches in or just standing on the edge not in the water I think that gator would have grabbed him anyway. I've seen them come out of the water and snatch small dogs. Should have been more than a no swimming sign for sure. This will be settled out of court but Disney needs to be forced to put up signs stating the dangers of gator attacks. I wouldn't bring my child to the area no matter what.
End of thread. to keep at it is pure trolling
WoSSHHHHHHH
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Yes, ok. I didn't think it that far.
Still. Isn't 9:30 dark, basically night time, already. What the fuck was the kid doing there?
I know sharks don't usually eat people after the first bite. They realize that there is simply too little to eat.
Do crocks do that?
Somebody posted that the body was found with little if any bite marks...
What the fuck! ( like Piana says it )
It may not have been the best parenting, but Walt Disney will not go there. Can you imagine a spokesperson from Walt Disney saying, "Well, its the parents fault for letting their child play near the water at 9:30pm." Yeah, won't happen.
But, yeah, based on what the parents said, I believe they felt safe within the confines of Walt Disney Resort. They probably didn't think in their wildest dreams that something like this would happen. Very sad.
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Yes, ok. I didn't think it that far.
Still. Isn't 9:30 dark, basically night time, already. What the fuck was the kid doing there?
Somebody posted that the body was found with little if any bite marks...
What the fuck! ( like Piana says it )
It was a movie event at a family resort. There were several other families with children attending.
The quote was the the body was "in tact", as in "not partially eaten." The kid had several bite marks and bruises on his body when he was found.
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It may not have been the best parenting, but Walt Disney will not go there. Can you imagine a spokesperson from Walt Disney saying, "Well, its the parents fault for letting their child play near the water at 9:30pm." Yeah, won't happen.
But, yeah, based on what the parents said, I believe they felt safe within the confines of Walt Disney Resort. They probably didn't think in their wildest dreams that something like this would happen. Very sad.
Sad for the useless killing of alligators maybe, but thats about it.
Fuck that two year old and fuck his parents. The entire family should have been eaten.
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Walter, I'm surprised by you. I would get annihalated by a croc, absolutely wrecked in the water. I've seen what they can do to buffalo and gazelles in 20 seconds flat at a river crossing. But if a 6-foot alligator has my kid I'll do my utmost. Yeah, I'm probably not coming back out of the water but how could you live with yourself
Settle down Gloria.
It is your turn to take the Getbig beating, man up and take it like a big boy.
;D
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The Hyatt has them up the road.
Lol at the cartoon type picture of the Alligator on the sign. Almost makes the gator seem friendly and cute.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=612181.0;attach=681078;image)
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Holy crap :o :o
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mwMzQw5KC4Q/UBDC4Tp7sxI/AAAAAAAABdA/NsMnidYe8W8/s1600/858-4-crocodiles_-_1.jpg.gif)
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Holy crap :o :o
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mwMzQw5KC4Q/UBDC4Tp7sxI/AAAAAAAABdA/NsMnidYe8W8/s1600/858-4-crocodiles_-_1.jpg.gif)
More dangerous than a pitbull?
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More dangerous than a pitbull?
Nothing is more dangerous than a pitbull.
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And it says "be aware" vs beware. There is a big difference.
It says both "beware" and "be aware".
Beware:
"to be careful : to act in a way that shows you know that there may be danger or trouble"
The difference between "beware" and "be aware"
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/160651/what-is-the-difference-between-beware-and-be-aware (http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/160651/what-is-the-difference-between-beware-and-be-aware)
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Nothing is more dangerous than a pitbull.
Only "highly educated" idiots.
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It says both "beware" and "be aware".
Beware:
"to be careful : to act in a way that shows you know that there may be danger or trouble"
The difference between "beware" and "be aware"
http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/160651/what-is-the-difference-between-beware-and-be-aware (http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/160651/what-is-the-difference-between-beware-and-be-aware)
They recently put up a "fence." It doesn't look like something that could stop a gator.
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An autopsy confirmed that the toddler died from drowning and traumatic injuries.
Five alligators have since been removed and euthanized, but it was unclear if any of them were the boy’s killer.
A recent report charged that Disney World was warned about the alligator problem in the Seven Seas Lagoon but that it overlooked it because high-paying guests enjoyed feeding the creatures.
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disney was irresponsible.
the ad has people in the water. those gators have no biz there. as soon as you find them, relocate them.
gators are nothing more than slow sharks which can leave the water. Say that over and over.
Stop idolizing them. When you find them, deport them to the everglades. They'll be happy with no people bothering them. They're all over playgrounds here in SW Florida. What kinda idiot does that. I cannot let my youngins out of my sight, nowhere NEAR the water, even if the "gator-proof" hill they design in these man-made lakes is there to stop them.
it's a weird culture. Gator = slow land shark that wants to murder you. Remember that.
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And it says "be aware" vs beware. There is a big difference.
Says 'BEWARE' in large white uppercase letters right above it.
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Looks to me like a case of mistaken identity for the gator. That small gator likely mistook that little boy for a small animal, such as a raccoon. Thats why the gator didn't consume the kid. And the only reason the kid was found in one piece. If that was an adult gator they'd be fishing that kids body parts out of its stomach. No doubt about that.
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Sad for the useless killing of alligators maybe, but thats about it.
Fuck that two year old and fuck his parents. The entire family should have been eaten.
Coming from a psychopath this comment doesn't surprise me.
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Looks to me like a case of mistaken identity for the gator. That small gator likely mistook that little boy for a small animal, such as a raccoon. Thats why the gator didn't consume the kid. And the only reason the kid was found in one piece. If that was an adult gator they'd be fishing that kids body parts out of its stomach. No doubt about that.
I've heard gators kill and then sometimes wait to eat until the prey softens up.
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Was that particular alligator ever found?
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Shocking Video Shows Disney Employee Fighting Alligator Near Splash Mountain-1 Day Ago
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you don't know what minor injuries mean?
Why isn't the croc dead if he engaged? WTF?
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Sad for the useless killing of alligators maybe, but thats about it.
Fuck that two year old and fuck his parents. The entire family should have been eaten.
::)
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Sad for the useless killing of alligators maybe, but thats about it.
Fuck that two year old and fuck his parents. The entire family should have been eaten.
I get the whole 'people suck' cynicism. I TOTALLY get it, I'm there too. But this predators > infants silliness just makes you look like a creepy cat lady.
And you don't want that, so stop.
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reminds me of this one
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It's a people problem.
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I get the whole 'people suck' cynicism. I TOTALLY get it, I'm there too. But this predators > infants silliness just makes you look like a creepy cat lady.
And you don't want that, so stop.
Not all people suck, that particular family happens to just suck more. The picture of that two year old, I can see how annoying it was in its eyes. This family is on Dindu level as far as I am concerned. Maybe a rabid pack of wild dogs will finish them off one day. One can only hope.
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reminds me of this one
it's bad enough his name was dicko
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Shocking Video Shows Disney Employee Fighting Alligator Near Splash Mountain-1 Day Ago
lol sensationalist hard hitting news right there
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I get the whole 'people suck' cynicism. I TOTALLY get it, I'm there too. But this predators > infants silliness just makes you look like a creepy cat lady.
And you don't want that, so stop.
He's unhappy with his life
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He's unhappy with his life
It's a little more than that. He hates kids to the point of wishing them all dead. Imagine this idiot anywhere near your kid? you know deep in his head he's wishing them dead as he looks at them. He loves dogs hates cats loves to cook hates blacks etc. He's pr1etty primitive in his thinking. He sees a photo of this poor kid who got violently killed and all he can say is "The picture of that two year old, I can see how annoying it was in its eyes." Notice the term "IT" You guys think Vegan gains is crazy well this kid is worse he just hides it better. He's a sociopath plain and simple.
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I'm gonna have to stick up for TA here.... him and I have been friends outside this board and we stand in two different ends on the spectrum in that I'm a family guy with two kids, he never wants kids and.... whoa..... we still get along. He's never had anything but good things to say regarding my family and life.
We don't always see eye to eye on everything, but isn't that probably the case with everyone in life though, that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to have my kids around him.
Dude is A OK in my book!
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It's a little more than that. He hates kids to the point of wishing them all dead. Imagine this idiot anywhere near your kid? you know deep in his head he's wishing them dead as he looks at them. He loves dogs hates cats loves to cook hates blacks etc. He's pr1etty primitive in his thinking. He sees a photo of this poor kid who got violently killed and all he can say is "The picture of that two year old, I can see how annoying it was in its eyes." Notice the term "IT" You guys think Vegan gains is crazy well this kid is worse he just hides it better. He's a sociopath plain and simple.
Fuck me, he has you fooled hasn't he.
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I'm gonna have to stick up for TA here.... him and I have been friends outside this board and we stand in two different ends on the spectrum in that I'm a family guy with two kids, he never wants kids and.... whoa..... we still get along. He's never had anything but good things to say regarding my family and life.
We don't always see eye to eye on everything, but isn't that probably the case with everyone in life though, that doesn't mean I wouldn't want to have my kids around him.
Dude is A OK in my book!
"They" are very good at fitting in. ;D
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"They" are very good at fitting in. ;D
Definitely a sociopath