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http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/helen_ubinas/20160614_Ubinas__I_bought_an_AR-15_semi-automatic_rifle_in_Philly_in_7_minutes.html
I bought an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle in Philly in 7 minutes
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That's how long it took me to buy an AR-15, the type of semiautomatic rifle used in the deadliest mass shooting in modern American history.
Seven minutes. From the moment I handed the salesperson my driver's license to the moment I passed my background check.
It likely will take more time than that during the forthcoming round of vigils to respectfully read the names of the more than 100 people who were killed or injured.
It's obscene.
Horrifying.
Maybe surprising to some - though it shouldn't be, not at this point in our bloody, hate-filled history.
If it wasn't so easy to get a gun in this country, the 29-year-old gunman who went on a shooting rampage in a popular gay nightclub in Orlando on Sunday wouldn't have been able to buy the weapon he used to kill 49 people and injure 53.
If it wasn't so easy to get a gun in this country, another gunman who came before him wouldn't have been able to use the same kind of firearm to kill elementary-school children in Newtown, Conn.
If it wasn't so appallingly easy to get a gun in this country, it wouldn't be easy for the next gunman to deliver the kind of carnage that's as much a part of this country as the American flag.
And there will undoubtedly be a next one.
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I was able to buy an AR-15 in five minutes
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Two days after the worst mass shooting in American history, and my local gun shop in Virginia showed no hesitation in selling me an AR-15.
In fact, they really wanted me to buy it. And I was only there for five minutes.
As I was watching CNN Tuesday morning, I thought it was crazy how the first thing society jumps to after such a tragic event was gun rights. I began to think of how much my hometown loves the Second Amendment, and I wondered exactly how hard it would be for me to walk up and buy a gun. Well, I didn’t have anything better to do, so I got in my car and did exactly that.
I walked into the store and told them I was interested in something for home protection and target practice. The woman behind the counter smiled and asked, “Rifle or shotgun?”
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ar-15-orlando_us_576059f3e4b0e4fe5143fd4d
It Took Us Just 38 Minutes To Buy An AR-15 In Orlando
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ORLANDO, Fla. — It took us 38 minutes to walk out of a gun shop with a death machine.
Just two days after Omar Mateen used a semi-automatic rifle to murder 49 innocent people and injure dozens more, we were able to purchase an AR-15 — a rifle similar to Mateen’s that has been used in several other mass shootings on American soil — in less time than it takes to buy a cart full of groceries.
We would have been locked and loaded within five minutes, but the gun shop employee we spoke to said the queue on background checks was longer than usual because people were scrambling to buy AR-15s in the wake of the shooting. That’s both terrifying and unsurprising — gun sales often skyrocket after mass shootings.
But the ease with which we purchased our AR-15, a Vietnam-era gun hailed by the military as being the perfect killing machine, was surreal. This, despite the fact that Florida Gov. Rick Scott had declared a state of emergency in Orange County, which includes Orlando.
On any given day, regardless of whether your town has endured a horrific tragedy, it’s not hard to purchase a weapon of mass murder like we did in most of America. A reporter for the Philadelphia Daily News was able to get one in just seven minutes in Pennsylvania on Monday.
Within seconds, we had it in our hands: A rifle that weighs less than a small watermelon and can, like the MCX Sig Sauer that Mateen used, easily fire several dozen rounds in less than 10 seconds. Our Diamondback DB15‘s killing power is striking, and at $644, it’s a relatively affordable murder weapon.
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I call it good customer service.
Don't tread on me.
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I call it good customer service.
Don't tread on me.
Wiggs, why do they always use a snake when saying, "Don't tread on me?" What does the snake symbolize?
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damn not where i live, you will be waiting in line for hours before u even get to the counter and have to endure all the talking points coming from everyone in line. "bama gon take my gunz he evil muslim"
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Wow a law abiding citizen can go in and pass a background check and purchase a firearm, I'm shocked
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It's a constitutional right, FFS!
No one takes a mandated grace period to exercise Free Speech or other rights.
Ultimately: These discussions come down to vastly different positions on how power between government and the Citizenry should be balanced.
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Do people really believe if guns were outlawed altogether mass shootings would stop?
Have they looked at gang violence in Mexico? Chicago? Anywhere?
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How long does it take to buy a machete or axe?
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Are these people bodybuilders?
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"Death machine." ::)
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I call it good customer service.
Don't tread on me.
Indeed.
I see death machines set loose on society nightly. douchebag 22-year olds drinking 5 shots of jager than driving home at 15 mph over the speed limit at 2am.
A lot less paperwork for those.
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I thought all states had to run an FBI background check and had a 7 days cool down period or is that only for hand guns?
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I call it good customer service.
Don't tread on me.
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I thought all states had to run an FBI background check and had a 7 days cool down period or is that only for hand guns?
Takes 2 minutes for a background check. 10 day "cooling off" period in CA.
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I thought all states had to run an FBI background check and had a 7 days cool down period or is that only for hand guns?
i didn't read it, too enamored with my Crystal Method music + sandwich...
But i'm guessing they did the SALE in 7 minutes, but had to wait to pick it up.
I have a permit, and no longer even grandfathered in. I have to wait th 3 days to pick it up, even though I'm auto-approved for being so damn awesome.
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what is the point? What problem would be solved if it took them 2 hours? ::)
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what is the point? What problem would be solved if it took them 2 hours? ::)
They basically are trying to say not to sell guns to people with tanned skin.
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They basically are trying to say not to sell guns to people with tanned skin.
entirely wrong.
NATURALLY tanned skin. Artificially orange skin = totally cool.
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I love ignorant people's reactions ;D They needed to get rid of them ASAP or that black rifle would possess them and make them do unspeakable acts against their fellow brother ::)
From douche's article what's really destroying this country is fear and hate. Irrational fear of an inanimate rifle and hate anyone who wants to own one. She's a hypocrite and a bigot.
What's destroying this country are people trying to force their ideology on everyone else.
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No wait here. Select rifle, background check,,pay. Maybe what, 20 minutes? Waiting periods do nothing other than make you wait.
try buying a gun in New jersey or New York....
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People kill people...
Ban nail guns...
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How long does it take to buy a machete or axe?
;D You gotta be joking
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i didn't read it, too enamored with my Crystal Method music + sandwich...
But i'm guessing they did the SALE in 7 minutes, but had to wait to pick it up.
I have a permit, and no longer even grandfathered in. I have to wait th 3 days to pick it up, even though I'm auto-approved for being so damn awesome.
Crystal Method hell yes
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I call it good customer service.
Don't tread on me.
for real. Fucking academy takes 30 mins
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The shooter in Orlando used a Sig Sauer MCX, not an AR-15.
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The shooter in Orlando used a Sig Sauer MCX, not an AR-15.
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Crystal Method hell yes
I worked so fcking fast today. Don't know why I didn't think of this sooner. Get busy child.
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Do people really believe if guns were outlawed altogether mass shootings would stop?
Have they looked at gang violence in Mexico? Chicago? Anywhere?
No one believes that and I don't recall anyone every claiming that (though perhaps someone who is stupid has said that)
What most believe is that preventing access to this type of gun might slightly less carnage when one of these nutbags decides to commit mass murder (same concept behind banning high capacity magazines)
That's pretty much all that banning these types of guns can do
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The shooter in Orlando used a Sig Sauer MCX, not an AR-15.
Facts have no place in this discussion. >:(
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Facts have no place in this discussion. >:(
isn't it a derivative of the AR-15 and also shoots the same .223 caliber round capable of piercing a metal helmet at 500 yards. (per the aricle below)
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/family-ar-15-inventor-speaks-out-n593356
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No one believes that and I don't recall anyone every claiming that (though perhaps someone who is stupid has said that)
What most believe is that preventing access to this type of gun might slightly less carnage when one of these nutbags decides to commit mass murder (same concept behind banning high capacity magazines)
That's pretty much all that banning these types of guns can do
And what most believe is factually inaccurate.. because? Vast majority of gun deaths are due to...................... ........................ ........................ fucking pistols. Please know what you're talking about before typing or run the risk of trying to be topical on subject you're clueless on.
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And what most believe is factually inaccurate.. because? Vast majority of gun deaths are due to...................... ........................ ........................ fucking pistols. Please know what you're talking about before typing or run the risk of trying to be topical on subject you're clueless on.
try to pay attention
I never said this rifle was used in the vast majority of gun deaths did I?
I said that the intent of banning it was to reduce the level of carnage when one of these nutbags decides to commit mass murder
If the shooter in Orlando was using a hand gun I'd bet there wouldn't be 49 dead and 50 or so injured
from the article I just posted
In the incidents below the carnage would likely have been less (perhap much less) if the shooters could only have used a hand gun
In all, an AR-15 style rifle has been used in at least 10 recent mass shootings — including at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, and a work party in San Bernardino, California.
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try to pay attention
I never said this rifle was used in the vast majority of gun deaths did I?
I said that the intent of banning it was to reduce the level of carnage when one of these nutbags decides to commit mass murder
If the shooter in Orlando was using a hand gun I'd bet there wouldn't be 49 dead and 50 or so injured
The intent is wrong for above stated reasons.
If the shooter in Orlando was using a hand gun I'd bet there wouldn't be 49 dead and 50 or so injured
You know nothing Jon Snow , 2 Glock 17s with 33 round magazines you'd be wrong. Virginia Tech 33 dead , 17 wounded , two pistols. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_shooting
In all, an AR-15 style rifle has been used in at least 10 recent mass shootings — including at an elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, and a work party in San Bernardino, California.
10 shootings out of 30,000 WOW that's a PANDEMIC ::) vast majority of " mass shootings " happen with pistols , it's NOT debatable it's a fact. Banning AR15s had NO negligible effect on murders done with firearms
Gun violence in US has fallen dramatically over past 20 years, Justice Dept. report finds
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/07/18108298-gun-violence-in-us-has-fallen-dramatically-over-past-20-years-justice-dept-report-finds
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The intent is wrong for above stated reasons.
You know nothing Jon Snow , 2 Glock 17s with 33 round magazines you'd be wrong. Virginia Tech 33 dead , 17 wounded , two pistols. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_shooting
10 shootings out of 30,000 WOW that's a PANDEMIC ::) vast majority of " mass shootings " happen with pistols , it's NOT debatable it's a fact. Banning AR15s had NO negligible effect on murders done with firearms
Gun violence in US has fallen dramatically over past 20 years, Justice Dept. report finds
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/07/18108298-gun-violence-in-us-has-fallen-dramatically-over-past-20-years-justice-dept-report-finds
thanks for making my point again
Your chart doesn't even list "mass shootings"
Per you Wiki link its says the Virginia Tech shooters used two guns: "a .22-caliber Walther P22 semi-automatic handgun and a 9 mm semi-automatic Glock 19 handgun" and that he had "10- and 15-round magazines"
Clearly its still possible to kill many unarmed people who are cornered in a room with no escape just using a couple of hand guns
How many more people could this guy have killed or severely injured with an AR-15 or similar type of rifle?
Again, my point being that the only intent of banning these guns is to LESSEN the carnage of a mass shooting event
It won't stop these events
It won't prevent someone from still killing many people, especially if they are corned is a room with no escape
All it would do is potentially lessen the carnage
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thanks for making my point again
Your chart doesn't even list "mass shootings"
Per you Wiki link its says the Virginia Tech shooters used two guns: "a .22-caliber Walther P22 semi-automatic handgun and a 9 mm semi-automatic Glock 19 handgun" and that he had "10- and 15-round magazines"
Clearly its still possible to kill many unarmed people who are cornered in a room with no escape just using a couple of hand guns
How many more people could this guy have killed or severely injured with an AR-15 or similar type of rifle?
Again, my point being that the only intent of banning these guns is to LESSEN the carnage of a mass shooting event
It won't stop these events
It won't prevent someone from still killing many people, especially if they are corned is a room with no escape
All it would do is potentially lessen the carnage
Again, my point being that the only intent of banning these guns is to LESSEN the carnage of a mass shooting event
I get the point you're attempting to make , however most " mass shootings " are done with pistols and on the super rare occasions they're done with rifles the carnage would be less? So this is a selling point to infringe on people's rights? We know for a fact that the original assault weapons ban had zero impact on gun violence specifically because they're almost never used.
http://www.nap.edu/read/10881/chapter/6#97
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how long would it take a black man or rag head at that same shop to buy one ???
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how long would it take a black man or rag head at that same shop to buy one ???
Money is color blind
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Ban "Safe Zones".
They are a much bigger hazard to your health than any of these liberal assholes who don't even know how to hold a weapon
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Ban "Safe Zones".
They are a much bigger hazard to your health than any of these liberal assholes who don't even know how to hold a weapon
Great point http://nypost.com/2016/06/15/why-terrorists-target-gun-free-zones/
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He's a contractor ::) Black Water , Vietnam , Code Name Agent Orange
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I get the point you're attempting to make , however most " mass shootings " are done with pistols and on the super rare occasions they're done with rifles the carnage would be less? So this is a selling point to infringe on people's rights? We know for a fact that the original assault weapons ban had zero impact on gun violence specifically because they're almost never used.
http://www.nap.edu/read/10881/chapter/6#97
yes, that is the point
not having one of these guns means less people might be killed
I'm not buying the claim that your rights are being infringed if you can't have an AR-15 or similar type of gun
No specific type of gun is mentioned in the constitution and since there are already a long list of weapons you can't own then from that perspective your rights are already being infringed.
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Ban "Safe Zones".
They are a much bigger hazard to your health than any of these liberal assholes who don't even know how to hold a weapon
there was at least one armed off duty LE (the link below says officers so perhaps more than one) at the club in Orlando
http://www.pri.org/stories/2016-06-16/when-armed-guard-isnt-enough-venues-clubs-review-security-after-orlando
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yes, that is the point
not having one of these guns means less people might be killed
I'm not buying the claim that your rights are being infringed if you can't have an AR-15 or similar type of gun
No specific type of gun is mentioned in the constitution and since there are already a long list of weapons you can't own then from that perspective your rights are already being infringed.
There is an absolute ban on guns in Chicago.
How is that working?
Sure are a lot of clumsy fuckers tripping, falling on bullets, and dying every day....
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yes, that is the point
not having one of these guns means less people might be killed
I'm not buying the claim that your rights are being infringed if you can't have an AR-15 or similar type of gun
No specific type of gun is mentioned in the constitution and since there are already a long list of weapons you can't own then from that perspective your rights are already being infringed.
yes, that is the point
not having one of these guns means less people might be killed
What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.
I'm not buying the claim that your rights are being infringed if you can't have an AR-15 or similar type of gun
Well that's fucking handy because I'm not fucking selling it. It's a fact. In the Heller case, Justice Antonin Scalia suggested that the Second Amendment would pose no barrier to outlawing weapons that are not in common use and especially dangerous.
Unconstitutional to ban them because they are very much in common use and not especially dangerous. AR15 is one of the most popular rifles ever made.
No specific type of gun is mentioned in the constitution and since there are already a long list of weapons you can't own then from that perspective your rights are already being infringed.
Like free speech it's a right that can be limited or infringed upon. Attempting to ban a firearm used in less than 1-FUCKING-percent of all murders with a firearm is just fucking stupid and Unconstitutional and considering it was NEVER fucking " banned " in the first place only cosmetic features they've doubled down in their stupidity.
People like you ( ignorant ) don't have a say in the matter , it's how we got here in the first place.
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You know nothing Jon Snow
you just gave me that warm feeling, not in the cockles of my heart, but in that sub-cockles area.
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" Hey Moron , Fucking Moron "
How would my " banned " AR15 be any less lethal? Riddle Me This Batman?
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What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.
Well that's fucking handy because I'm not fucking selling it. It's a fact. In the Heller case, Justice Antonin Scalia suggested that the Second Amendment would pose no barrier to outlawing weapons that are not in common use and especially dangerous.
Unconstitutional to ban them because they are very much in common use and not especially dangerous. AR15 is one of the most popular rifles ever made.
Like free speech it's a right that can be limited or infringed upon. Attempting to ban a firearm used in less than 1-FUCKING-percent of all murders with a firearm is just fucking stupid and Unconstitutional and considering it was NEVER fucking " banned " in the first place only cosmetic features they've doubled down in their stupidity.
People like you ( ignorant ) don't have a say in the matter , it's how we got here in the first place.
I used the word "might" as in there might be less carnage
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" Hey Moron , Fucking Moron "
How would my " banned " AR15 be any less lethal? Riddle Me This Batman?
I say lets ban all of them and find out what happens
Worst case you just cry like a bitch because you don't have your favorite gun to play with and that would be good enough for me
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I call it good customer service.
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Banning anything makes it more valuable and lucrative. Horrible move. Not mention it's numerically possible for them to go around getting our guns unless we all just agreed to turn them in. Criminals included. We all know that's not going to happen so they stage false flags, lie, exaggerate and scheme to chip away at the laws and over time they'll end up getting what they want unless there's some sort of intervention.
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I used the word "might" as in there might be less carnage
I used the word "might" as in there might be less carnage
I noticed that and gave you and example of might not too
I say lets ban all of them and find out what happens
Worst case you just cry like a bitch because you don't have your favorite gun to play with and that would be good enough for me
We know what might happen , people won't be give them up so freely , so you'll need men with guns to collect them so that creates even more gun violence & murder death , kills , What was that about " less carnage " again? ??? ;)
And 3 out of 4 of them are BANNED and are not technically AR15s lol now you want to " ban " my non-AR15s for no reason whatsoever? ??? You won't be coming to take them I'm betting? You want men with guns to do your gun violence at your behest , makes sense. The solution to ending gun violence is to kill everyone who won't give up their guns
Like I said don't talk on subjects you don't understand.
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I noticed that and gave you and example of might not too
We know what might happen , people won't be give them up so freely , so you'll need men with guns to collect them so that creates even more gun violence & murder death , kills , What was that about " less carnage " again? ??? ;)
And 3 out of 4 of them are BANNED and are not technically AR15s lol now you want to " ban " my non-AR15s for no reason whatsoever? ??? You won't be coming to take them I'm betting? You want men with guns to do your gun violence at your behest , makes sense. The solution to ending gun violence is to kill everyone who won't give up their guns
Like I said don't talk on subjects you don't understand.
stop whining like a bitch with sand in your pussy
if these types of guns are banned (which they likely won't be) there will still be plenty of guns for you to play and I'm sure you'd give them up without a whimper and then run to the internet to bitch about it
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Yes, ban guns so more people use bombs in America. Killers will find a way to kill.
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stop whining like a bitch with sand in your pussy
if these types of guns are banned (which they likely won't be) there will still be plenty of guns for you to play and I'm sure you'd give them up without a whimper and then run to the internet to bitch about it
Hey Moron Fucking Moron , I live in Massachusetts and they kept the original AWB a national one would affect me in the fucking least ;)
If these types of guns were " banned " ( which they won't be ) and the mass shootings continue status quo ( because rifles are used in less than 1% of Mass shootings ) you'd still be on here bitching & moaning we need to do " SOMETHING " lol and you'll be calling for the ban of the real problem semiautomatic pistols. One of us is a little bitch and it sure isn't me :'(
I'm still waiting for you to explain exactly how my " banned " Non-AR15s would be any less lethal than the preban one ;)
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Hey Moron Fucking Moron , I live in Massachusetts and they kept the original AWB a national one would affect me in the fucking least ;)
If these types of guns were " banned " ( which they won't be ) and the mass shootings continue status quo ( because rifles are used in less than 1% of Mass shootings ) you'd still be on here bitching & moaning we need to do " SOMETHING " lol and you'll be calling for the ban of the real problem semiautomatic pistols. One of us is a little bitch and it sure isn't me :'(
I'm still waiting for you to explain exactly how my " banned " Non-AR15s would be any less lethal than the preban one ;)
Time to change your pad. Seems as though the "sand in your pussy" line hit a nerve. LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Time to change your pad. Seems as though the "sand in your pussy" line hit a nerve. LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's the one melting , hey at least he has you for moral support ( no homo )
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He's the one melting , hey at least he has you for moral support ( no homo )
Thank you for allowing me the "no homo". Although, I have no issue with "homo". :)
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I noticed that and gave you and example of might not too
We know what might happen , people won't be give them up so freely , so you'll need men with guns to collect them so that creates even more gun violence & murder death , kills , What was that about " less carnage " again? ??? ;)
And 3 out of 4 of them are BANNED and are not technically AR15s lol now you want to " ban " my non-AR15s for no reason whatsoever? ??? You won't be coming to take them I'm betting? You want men with guns to do your gun violence at your behest , makes sense. The solution to ending gun violence is to kill everyone who won't give up their guns
Like I said don't talk on subjects you don't understand.
Do you think the majority of people would go out in a blaze of glory and risk a life time in jail over their guns (especially those people with families)?
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Do you think the majority of people would go out in a blaze of glory and risk a life time in jail over their guns (especially those people with families)?
Let me answer this. NO. Most of these people are pussies. If Eric Holder knocks on the average run of the mill gun nut's door, they aren't going to knuckle down and fight, they are going to hand over their guns,
drop to their knees and beg for mercy. Having a gun doesn't make you a tough guy. It's when the other guy has a gun drawn is when we find out who the real tough guy is. I believe this is close to what Sonny in Bronx Tale said.
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The shooter in Orlando used a Sig Sauer MCX, not an AR-15.
Yet another fact that the hysterical bigots don't care about as they try to ban AR15s.
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Let me answer this. NO. Most of these people are pussies. If Eric Holder knocks on the average run of the mill gun nut's door, they aren't going to knuckle down and fight, they are going to hand over their guns,
drop to their knees and beg for mercy. Having a gun doesn't make you a tough guy. It's when the other guy has a gun drawn is when we find out who the real tough guy is. I believe this is close to what Sonny in Bronx Tale said.
haha, yes, I love that movie!!
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NarcissisticDeity:
Let me pose two scenarios for you. Please provide me with an outcome you think would most likely happen.
::knock on door:
Federal Agent: "Hello Mr. ND. We are federal agents Vince Goodrum and Fitness Frenzy. May we have a word with you about two things?"
ND: "Yes, of course. Please come in."
Scenario 1:
Federal Agent Goodrum: "We have come to believe that you were engaged in an online brutal war with a getbigger named "Hulkster." Can you confirm this?"
ND: "Yes, I can."
Federal Agent Fitness Frenzy: "We have come across evidence that this debate involved a bloody verbal battle about who was better between a Mr. Ronnie Coleman or a Mr. Dorian Yates. Can you confirm this?"
ND: "Yes, that occurred. I'd also like to add that I was able to engage in this battle because I have no life."
Federal Agent Goodrum: "Nonetheless, you provided a great service to getbig. We would like to know who you think won this epic battle, you or Hulkster? Please provide a detailed answer and evidence. Thank you."
Outcome of scenario 1:................
Scenario 2:
Federal Agent Goodrum: "We recently discovered that you have X guns in your possession. Is this true?"
ND: "Yes, sir, it is true."
Federal Agent Fitness Frenzy: "Although you're a law abiding citizen, federal law states that we remove X guns. Please hand over your guns or face the consequences."
Outcome of scenario 2:.................
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NarcissisticDeity:
Let me pose two scenarios for you. Please provide me with an outcome you think would most likely happen.
::knock on door:
Federal Agent: "Hello Mr. ND. We are federal agents Vince Goodrum and Fitness Frenzy. May we have a word with you about two things?"
ND: "Yes, of course. Please come in."
Scenario 1:
Federal Agent Goodrum: "We have come to believe that you were engaged in an online brutal war with a getbigger named "Hulkster." Can you confirm this?"
ND: "Yes, I can."
Federal Agent Fitness Frenzy: "We have come across evidence that this debate involved a bloody verbal battle about who was better between a Mr. Ronnie Coleman or a Mr. Dorian Yates. Can you confirm this?"
ND: "Yes, that occurred. I'd also like to add that I was able to engage in this battle because I have no life."
Federal Agent Goodrum: "Nonetheless, you provided a great service to getbig. We would like to know who you think won this epic battle, you or Hulkster? Please provide a detailed answer and evidence. Thank you."
Outcome of scenario 1:................
Scenario 2:
Federal Agent Goodrum: "We recently discovered that you have X guns in your possession. Is this true?"
ND: "Yes, sir, it is true."
Federal Agent Fitness Frenzy: "Although you're a law abiding citizen, federal law states that we remove X guns. Please hand over your guns or face the consequences."
Outcome of scenario 2:.................
LMFAO!
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LMFAO!
I eagerly await ND's answer!!!
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Gold for her, waiting in the store to long can be a bitch
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I will never understand why Americans don't want tougher gun control after these shootings just continue ad nauseam. Isn't safety more important than (American) freedom?
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I will never understand why Americans don't want tougher gun control after these shootings just continue ad nauseam. Isn't safety more important than (American) freedom?
The illusion of safety isn't more important than freedom.
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It's a constitutional right, FFS!
No one takes a mandated grace period to exercise Free Speech or other rights.
Ultimately: These discussions come down to vastly different positions on how power between government and the Citizenry should be balanced.
why black americans give a fk about the constitution or are pro guns is beyond me. the constitution and gun ownership were both used to keep slaves in slavery, and the ridiculous number of guns in circulation is helping keep black american youth in chains today. the constitution should be burned and then start again using some common sense.
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Who cares? Takes a registered gun owner no time to mow down people. Meh. What are you gonna do, complain?
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Do you think the majority of people would go out in a blaze of glory and risk a life time in jail over their guns (especially those people with families)?
lol AJ would for sure, he said so on getbig
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why black americans give a fk about the constitution or are pro guns is beyond me. the constitution and gun ownership were both used to keep slaves in slavery, and the ridiculous number of guns in circulation is helping keep black american youth in chains today. the constitution should be burned and then start again using some common sense.
I'm an American who doesn't feel sacrificing rights will increase safety.
When someone proves removing rights from law abiding citizens stops criminals from breaking the law my position could change.
all the help from
In terms of chains and shit. That's bullshit. Plenty of black people come from good homes, take personal responsibility, stay out of trouble, go to college, etc... In fact, black Americans were better off before Liberals decided they needed to be handheld from cradle to grave with entitlement programs. Black Americans were probably better off by every indicator used for poverty before welfare became widespread. Welfare, social services, and most other public assistance programs increased poverty.
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I'm an American who doesn't feel sacrificing rights will increase safety.
When someone proves removing rights from law abiding citizens stops criminals from breaking the law my position could change.
all the help from
In terms of chains and shit. That's bullshit. Plenty of black people come from good homes, take personal responsibility, stay out of trouble, go to college, etc... In fact, black Americans were better off before Liberals decided they needed to be handheld from cradle to grave with entitlement programs. Black Americans were probably better off by every indicator used for poverty before welfare became widespread. Welfare, social services, and most other public assistance programs increased poverty.
You sound urban.
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You sound urban.
I grew up in the hood.
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Who cares? Takes a registered gun owner no time to mow down people. Meh. What are you gonna do, complain?
well personally i'd write a very sternly worded letter to my MP (whatever the US equivalent is)
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Just curious, but what is the need for a civilian to own a gun such as a AR-15?
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Fuck it, let's legalize hand grenades, rocket launchers, tanks, etc. free for all..
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Fuck it, let's legalize hand grenades, rocket launchers, tanks, etc. free for all..
::) none of those things kill people any more than guns do
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Just curious, but what is the need for a civilian to own a gun such as a AR-15?
Have you ever fired one?
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stupid americans and their stupid 2nd amendment...
you don't have to protect yourselves from wild fucking bears and wolves anymore. ban the guns. but then, oh poor americans, will have to obseess about something else...steroids, guns, tatoos, synthol and being fake tough...poor stupid crybaby americans.
don't take our guns, we need to appear tough, we might need to become nice to other people, we might need to be not assholy and arrogant. what do we do then?
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Who cares? Takes a registered gun owner no time to mow down people. Meh. What are you gonna do, complain?
Most " mass shootings " are done with illegal weapons, but lets not let facts get in the way. 300 dead in Chiraq this year alone , we're 6 months in and everyone knows things get hectic in the heat of summer , maybe the number will double , maybe more. But hey punish the average Joe that will solve the problem. he's a potential mass murderer anyway.
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::) none of those things kill people any more EFFICIENTLY than guns do
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oh yeah, there is always watching porn, 'cause that's real life
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none of those things kill people any more EFFICIENTLY than guns do
yeah,
let's ban life, 'cause life causes death....fucking brilliant
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yeah,
let's ban life, 'cause life causes death....fucking brilliant
Put down the water, Ilya. ::)
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Have you ever fired one?
No, never fired any sort of gun. I imagine it would be fun and AR-15's look cool for sure, but why the need for a civilian to own one?
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Most " mass shootings " are done with illegal weapons, but lets not let facts get in the way. 300 dead in Chiraq this year alone , we're 6 months in and everyone knows things get hectic in the heat of summer , maybe the number will double , maybe more. But hey punish the average Joe that will solve the problem. he's a potential mass murderer anyway.
those arent mass shootings, mass shootings exclude gang\drug killings and domestics. but to your point 80% of mass shootings are done with legal weapons
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those arent mass shootings, mass shootings exclude gang\drug killings and domestics. but to your point 80% of mass shootings are done with legal weapons
According to who? ??? Another ambiguous term like " assault rifle "
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According to who? ??? Another ambiguous term like " assault rifle "
ND, you didn't answer my 2 scenarios!! >:( >:( >:(
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No, never fired any sort of gun. I imagine it would be fun and AR-15's look cool for sure, but why the need for a civilian to own one?
Let a Navy SEAL explain why
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No, never fired any sort of gun. I imagine it would be fun and AR-15's look cool for sure, but why the need for a civilian to own one?
I've shot some guns in my time. The first few times it's very fun. After that, the "fun" wears off.
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Let a Navy SEAL explain why
is that a serious video? hahaha
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is that a serious video? hahaha
Even Bill O'Reilly (and that blonde lady on Fox News) said that AR-15's should be banned!! Wow!! You know it eventually going to happen, especially since now Republicans are calling for its ban. It's only a matter of time. Eventually, they will be banned. I mean, I don't care one way or another. I have no problem with someone owning an AR-15. But the reality is, it will be banned at some point.
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Even Bill O'Reilly (and that blonde lady on Fox News) said that AR-15's should be banned!! Wow!! You know it eventually going to happen, especially since now Republicans are calling for its ban. It's only a matter of time. Eventually, they will be banned. I mean, I don't care one way or another. I have no problem with someone owning an AR-15. But the reality is, it will be banned at some point.
They won't be , They've tried subsequent times already and it won't get any traction. 3 of these are " banned " how would these non-assault weapons be any less deadly?
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They won't be , They've tried subsequent times already and it won't get any traction. 3 of these are " banned " how would these non-assault weapons be any less deadly?
And you still have not answered my 2 scenarios.
So, if the federal government came to your door and demanded your guns, which were now illegal, what would you do? Obviously, not adhering to federal law would be a federal crime. You stated that this would cause bloodshed and more killing. What would your response be? Would you give up your guns (or certain guns now deemed illegal)?
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Even Bill O'Reilly (and that blonde lady on Fox News) said that AR-15's should be banned!! Wow!! You know it eventually going to happen, especially since now Republicans are calling for its ban. It's only a matter of time. Eventually, they will be banned. I mean, I don't care one way or another. I have no problem with someone owning an AR-15. But the reality is, it will be banned at some point.
"FOX Republican" = Neocon = Anti-Gun
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"FOX Republican" = Neocon = Anti-Gun
It's only a matter of time. You can't stop what's coming.
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Even Bill O'Reilly (and that blonde lady on Fox News) said that AR-15's should be banned!! Wow!! You know it eventually going to happen, especially since now Republicans are calling for its ban. It's only a matter of time. Eventually, they will be banned. I mean, I don't care one way or another. I have no problem with someone owning an AR-15. But the reality is, it will be banned at some point.
O'Reilly is a typical lib scumbag.
(http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Screen-Shot-2016-06-15-at-5.56.12-PM-768x422.png)
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/robert-farago/bill-oreilly-bails-bill-rights-calls-gun-control/
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And you still have not answered my 2 scenarios.
So, if the federal government came to your door and demanded your guns, which were now illegal, what would you do? Obviously, not adhering to federal law would be a federal crime. You stated that this would cause bloodshed and more killing. What would your response be? Would you give up your guns (or certain guns now deemed illegal)?
I couldn't answer that question unless I was faced with it. But Connecticut & New York have passed laws forcing people to register their AR15s and thousands have ignored it making them de facto criminals but they know better to start cracking down on people.
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It's only a matter of time. You can't stop what's coming.
To fulfill some prophesy, or what?
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O'Reilly is a typical lib scumbag.
(http://truthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Screen-Shot-2016-06-15-at-5.56.12-PM-768x422.png)
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/06/robert-farago/bill-oreilly-bails-bill-rights-calls-gun-control/
Yeah, but hes a repub on most other issues.
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Yeah, but hes a repub on most other issues.
Exactly what's that mean, these days? I lost track.
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To fulfill some prophesy, or what?
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stupid americans and their stupid 2nd amendment...
you don't have to protect yourselves from wild fucking bears and wolves anymore. ban the guns. but then, oh poor americans, will have to obseess about something else...steroids, guns, tatoos, synthol and being fake tough...poor stupid crybaby americans.
don't take our guns, we need to appear tough, we might need to become nice to other people, we might need to be not assholy and arrogant. what do we do then?
yeah,
let's ban life, 'cause life causes death....fucking brilliant
WTF are you trying to say in this thread?
???
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To fulfill some prophesy, or what?
The Nanny State.
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The illusion of safety isn't more important than freedom.
Some people are too dumb to understand, you're wasting your finger energy.
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I'm an American who doesn't feel sacrificing rights will increase safety.
When someone proves removing rights from law abiding citizens stops criminals from breaking the law my position could change.
all the help from
In terms of chains and shit. That's bullshit. Plenty of black people come from good homes, take personal responsibility, stay out of trouble, go to college, etc... In fact, black Americans were better off before Liberals decided they needed to be handheld from cradle to grave with entitlement programs. Black Americans were probably better off by every indicator used for poverty before welfare became widespread. Welfare, social services, and most other public assistance programs increased poverty.
well however you chop it up, whether black people were better off before welfare (or before slavery left them with idle hands as i think one of those bundy fellows suggests) .
the fact remains, something like 50% of gun death victims in the US are black whist only making 13% of the population....guns are the scourge of black communities.
and before i hear "oh but da criminals will still get da guns". no they won't. it's like the trickle down effect in economics. if you restrict gun manufacture and legal gun ownership, and at the same time introduce very harsh mandatory sentences for gun possession. you will quickly see the number of guns drop across the board , criminals included.
guns are not needed in society, get rid of the AR15s the hand guns, all of them. start living with real freedom instead of fear.
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well however you chop it up, whether black people were better off before welfare (or before slavery left them with idle hands as i think one of those bundy fellows suggests) .
the fact remains, something like 50% of gun death victims in the US are black whist only making 13% of the population....guns are the scourge of black communities.
and before i hear "oh but da criminals will still get da guns". no they won't. it's like the trickle down effect in economics. if you restrict gun manufacture and legal gun ownership, and at the same time introduce very harsh mandatory sentences for gun possession. you will quickly see the number of guns drop across the board , criminals included.
guns are not needed in society, get rid of the AR15s the hand guns, all of them. start living with real freedom instead of fear.
I'm never going to support any solution that grows the govt or strips law abiding citizens of their rights.
When the black community gets tired of the bullshit, it'll stop.
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I'm never going to support any solution that grows the govt or strips law abiding citizens of their rights.
When the black community gets tired of the bullshit, it'll stop.
don't see how society disarming should necessarily "grow the govt"
as for stripping people of their rights. I disagree, people would have more freedom in general without all the guns. i can pretty much go anywhere in the uk without thinking i need to arm myself. OK couple areas would need to keep your wits about you , but generally no need to be armed.
look at all the people in the US, in high gun crime areas that are afraid of catching a stray bullet or getting caught up in some gun incident. all the people that feel the need to arm themselves to go about their daily business or need to keep a gun at hand in their house to feel safe.
that's not freedom, that's living in fear. you americans seem to be a very fearful bunch in general. even when you look at foreign policy, always gotta be bombing this country or stirring up trouble in that country, all in the name of "freedom" and "keeping america safe".
i think this fearfulness is probably ingrained in the american subconscious. the settlers were always scared about the slaves revolting and rising up against them, so they had to make sure they kept themselves armed to the teeth to prevent any such eventualities.
just a theory but there's definitely something 'up' with the american psyche.
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don't see how society disarming should necessarily "grow the govt"
as for stripping people of their rights. I disagree, people would have more freedom in general without all the guns. i can pretty much go anywhere in the uk without thinking i need to arm myself. OK couple areas would need to keep your wits about you , but generally no need to be armed.
look at all the people in the US, in high gun crime areas that are afraid of catching a stray bullet or getting caught up in some gun incident. all the people that feel the need to arm themselves to go about their daily business or need to keep a gun at hand in their house to feel safe.
that's not freedom, that's living in fear. you americans seem to be a very fearful bunch in general. even when you look at foreign policy, always gotta be bombing this country or stirring up trouble in that country, all in the name of "freedom" and "keeping america safe".
i think this fearfulness is probably ingrained in the american subconscious. the settlers were always scared about the slaves revolting and rising up against them, so they had to make sure they kept themselves armed to the teeth to prevent any such eventualities.
just a theory but there's definitely something 'up' with the american psyche.
This is an issue of the limits of Govt power, not race.
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This is an issue of the limits of Govt power, not race.
when you look how disproportionately blacks are affected by gun deaths/violence, it becomes part of the equation.
it just makes me laugh when i hear black americans talking about "it's a constitutional right" so what ? no black person had fk all to do with writing the constitution in fact it was even used to ensure slavery was legal at one point. the constitution has fk all to do with you.
it's all conditioning, i guess.
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when you look how disproportionately blacks are affected by gun deaths/violence, it becomes part of the equation.
it just makes me laugh when i hear black americans talking about "it's a constitutional right" so what ? no black person had fk all to do with writing the constitution in fact it was even used to ensure slavery was legal at one point. the constitution has fk all to do with you.
it's all conditioning, i guess.
Why stop at guns?
Ban certain foods to protect the 40% of Americans who are fat people from themselves.
Euthanize people at 70 to save Social Security.