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Title: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: muscleman-2013 on June 28, 2016, 03:44:23 AM
ha ha
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 28, 2016, 05:07:33 AM
His attacks on her have been weak in comparison to how he mocked and humiliated "fellow" republicans. 

And he is sliding in the polls.  His staff is 1/10 the size, and his 3 million compared to her 94 million?
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Pet shop boys on June 28, 2016, 05:11:11 AM
His attacks on her have been weak in comparison to how he mocked and humiliated "fellow" republicans. 

And he is sliding in the polls.  His staff is 1/10 the size, and his 3 million compared to her 94 million?

This.   "Jeb is a complete mess, he is by far the biggest loser on this stage" 
 where can I find that infamous clip?


WoooSHHHHHHH
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Royalty on June 28, 2016, 05:11:19 AM
I got a feeling that Trump is gonna win
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TheShape. on June 28, 2016, 05:22:47 AM
His attacks on her have been weak in comparison to how he mocked and humiliated "fellow" republicans. 

And he is sliding in the polls.  His staff is 1/10 the size, and his 3 million compared to her 94 million?
Weak attacks? Give me a break.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 28, 2016, 05:24:25 AM
Weak attacks? Give me a break.

I could drop 5 sentences which decimate hilary worse than anything Trump has given us.  So could you.  So could coach is he wasn't spinning tales of concussions. 

Trump is going easy on her.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 28, 2016, 05:25:50 AM
Trump is not doing well in the polls and is behind in FL and OH

If he loses either he has no way to win at all. 
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Hulkotron on June 28, 2016, 06:06:42 AM
Still got Big Don in my Top 6 come September.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on June 28, 2016, 06:18:31 AM
starting to think trump is in cahoots with the dems
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 28, 2016, 09:51:45 AM
starting to think trump is in cahoots with the dems

either he's one of the most inept, unprepared, pompous, ignorant, self-unaware candidates we've ever seen

OR

he's tanking on purpose.

And seeing as the man has run 500+ successful businesses, how's he's managed to multi-task sensationally for 5 decades, all while wearing the stress of multiple CEO titles... I cannot imagine why, now that he's dedicated himself solely to the campaign (no longer running all of these businesses), why he is doing so shitty.

I give Trump much more credit... he wants us to think he's inept.  He's very brilliant and could easily organize an 800 man campaign to match.  Him having between 30 and 70 employees for a national operation?  Having 3 million, against hilary's 94 mil, and him refusing to make donor calls?  No, I think it's intentional.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 28, 2016, 09:53:13 AM
starting to think trump is in cahoots with the dems

Trump's campaign owes him 45.7 million bucks.   He's already given himself 10% of all campaign donations, right back to his kids, his companies, and even 5000 paid to himself for no reason.   

Imagine what happens to all the senate and house races for the republican side, when the RNC ponies up 50 million to help Trump win.. and he just repays himself and take a month off to visit Scotland again and do some golfing.   All those Repub smaller races will suffer.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: SF1900 on June 28, 2016, 09:55:59 AM
THIS EXPLAINS IT ALL!

(http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2015_32/721166/trump-hillary-bill-clinton-today-150807_460ba7dfbcabbf6b9cd94249a410f990.today-inline-large.jpg)

(http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2016/news/160314/donald-hillary-800.jpg)
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on June 28, 2016, 10:28:52 AM
seems the only rational explanation is that he's putting in work for the other side
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: SF1900 on June 28, 2016, 10:30:58 AM
seems the only rational explanation is that he's putting in work for the other side

x2.

Wonder if Trump and Hillary have contact on a daily basis.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: SquidVicious on June 28, 2016, 10:35:30 AM
I'm beginning to think 240 has been right all along. Trump has done nothing to combat the leftist media's message of Trump as a racist, despite zero evidence of racism. Millions of blacks support Trump but you don't see any commercials featuring prominent, successful blacks touting Trump as a supporter of the black entrepreneurial community. There is simply zero effort to counter the propaganda against him which is crazy considering he continues to be the only guy who can walk in front of a camera at any time and grab the headline or top news story. It's either willful incompetence or purposeful negligence. I suspect an unsuccessful assassination attempt on Trump's life will convince him that it's just not worth it and allow him to go back to his business life tomorrow without missing a beat.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on June 28, 2016, 10:36:42 AM
x2.

Wonder if Trump and Hillary have contact on a daily basis.

would be prudent to use a third party go between but wouldn't surprise me if they co-ordinate talking points first thing in the am
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: SF1900 on June 28, 2016, 10:37:24 AM
would be prudent to use a third party go between but wouldn't surprise me if they co-ordinate talking points first thing in the am

I wonder if Goodrum, CSN, MFT, HHP, has any insider information about this topic.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 28, 2016, 10:38:06 AM
I think he's unable to get his mind off being seen as a failed president.  That scares him more than anything else -- so he'd rather be a failed candidate than a failed president.  That way it doesn't appear to be 100% on him.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: milone79 on June 28, 2016, 10:40:33 AM
lol @ phaggots who think you have a choice...its all a show!!!!  Presidents are not elected by ballot they are SELECTED by bloodlines years before you even see their faces.....what a bunch of naïve chumps in this thread....lmao
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: dr.chimps on June 28, 2016, 10:41:20 AM
Guy will not/ cannot disclose his finances. Slush funds, pay-offs, rip-offs, no-taxes paid, schemes, creative accounting...the list is endless. And I remember him pushing Romney in '12 to disclose.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on June 28, 2016, 10:42:09 AM
I think he's unable to get his mind off being seen as a failed president.  That scares him more than anything else, so he'd rather be a failed candidate than a failed president.  That way it doesn't appear to be 100% on him.

This is a good point.

When you think about it, failure is fucking frightening. He's always been able to put "bad things" behind him easily... Oh... my business is collapsing? We have bankruptcy courts for that.

My marriages? Divorce courts...

There is no out for being a bad presidency and history will judge that much harder.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Nails on June 28, 2016, 10:44:17 AM
Oj, Trump, and coke dealer  ???



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Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 28, 2016, 10:50:41 AM
This is a good point.

When you think about it, failure is fucking frightening. He's always been able to put "bad things" behind him easily... Oh... my business is collapsing? We have bankruptcy courts for that.

My marriages? Divorce courts...

There is no out for being a bad presidency and history will judge that much harder.

Good post, yeah.  He knows it will be so inescapable and so defining, that he can't take it.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on June 28, 2016, 10:53:31 AM
Good post, yeah.  He knows it will be so inescapable and so defining, that he can't take it.

This may be the most accurate personality finding of Trump ever.

Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 28, 2016, 11:00:59 AM
This may be the most accurate personality finding of Trump ever.



He needs to get the message that it's too late to run away.  At this point, he owes this country his very best effort.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on June 28, 2016, 11:04:56 AM
He needs to get the message that it's too late to run away.  At this point, he owes this country his very best effort.

Do you believe Trump cares about anything (country included) more than he cares about himself?
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 28, 2016, 11:28:40 AM
Do you believe Trump cares about anything (country included) more than he cares about himself?

Don't know, but I'd bet he's been asking himself some questions which he hasn't faced before, probably including that one.  I really think he's learning it as he goes, and that he never expected to go through such mental strain at his age, lol.

Oh well.  He's the one who got himself into this.  Right now, he's the only person who can save us from Hillary, and he owes us that much.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 28, 2016, 12:41:33 PM
Imagine the U.S. President owing he bank of Germany tens of millions of dollars.  Is that the case?

Did you hear his trade plan today?  iPhones are going to cost 2000 bucks. 

A master of business who wants to end relationships to compete better, when our labor is this expensive?  Even repub think tanks are saying it'll add trillions to the debt. 

Trying to lose.  Nobody is this incompetent or this inept. 
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on June 28, 2016, 12:47:17 PM
Hillary has enough in the war chest to keep trump happy at the end of the day,

he doesn't need to raise money since that would likely diminish the clinton fundraising numbers - bleeding away potential donors

seems like an effective team effort
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 28, 2016, 01:02:27 PM
Hillary has enough is the war chest to keep trump happy at the end of the day,
he doesn't need to raise money since that would likely diminish the clinton fundraising numbers - bleeding away potential donors
seems like an effective team effort

Trump was a Hilary supporter all the way until she lost to Obama in the 2008 primary.  Only THEN did he magically become a republican.

I think Trump purposely botched the birth certificate issue in 2012 - so that it'd be a walking joke - so that obama would remain credible, Romney would lose, and hilary would step right in when 2016 rolled around.  If Romney wins, Hilary has a much tougher battle in 2016, fighting a sitting president.

I think Trump has always been in bed with hilary, and didn't magically become a republican the minute hilary lost. 

I could be wrong, who knows.  But I've been right about many things this primary season.  I called Trump a plant before George Will did - I did on getbig in 2011, calling him a democrat playing Repub to undermine republicans. 
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 28, 2016, 01:02:51 PM
Hillary has enough is the war chest to keep trump happy at the end of the day,

he doesn't need to raise money since that would likely diminish the clinton fundraising numbers - bleeding away potential donors

seems like an effective team effort

Are you pro-Hillary, mr. turbo?
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 28, 2016, 01:06:43 PM
Guy will not/ cannot disclose his finances. Slush funds, pay-offs, rip-offs, no-taxes paid, schemes, creative accounting...the list is endless. And I remember him pushing Romney in '12 to disclose.

Lmao.. I remember how "offended" Romney was when it happened to him, but then he didn't hesitate to do it to Trump.

These guys, I tell you.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: SF1900 on June 28, 2016, 01:07:41 PM
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Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on June 28, 2016, 01:11:38 PM
Are you pro-Hillary, mr. turbo?

I'm not

just a realist with regard to political analysis

 ;)
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 28, 2016, 01:13:41 PM
I'm not

just a realist with regard to political analysis

 ;)

So you'd run like hell from her.  Don't blame you.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on June 28, 2016, 01:19:13 PM
Trump was a Hilary supporter all the way until she lost to Obama in the 2008 primary.  Only THEN did he magically become a republican.

I think Trump purposely botched the birth certificate issue in 2012 - so that it'd be a walking joke - so that obama would remain credible, Romney would lose, and hilary would step right in when 2016 rolled around.  If Romney wins, Hilary has a much tougher battle in 2016, fighting a sitting president.

I think Trump has always been in bed with hilary, and didn't magically become a republican the minute hilary lost.  

I could be wrong, who knows.  But I've been right about many things this primary season.  I called Trump a plant before George Will did - I did on getbig in 2011, calling him a democrat playing Repub to undermine republicans.  

you seem to be on to something with this line of reasoning

we'll have to monitor how things develop, perhaps a smoking gun will emerge eventually.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 28, 2016, 01:22:46 PM
you seem to be on to something with this line of reasoning

we'll have to monitor how things develops, perhaps a smoking gun will emerge eventually.

I might be wrong.  I'm just one of 7 billion schmucks on this planet with an opinion :)

I guess the best Q is... If Trump was in fact a dem plant... intent on wrecking the GOP, underachieing and letting hilary win...

What would he be doing any differently?   Soft-ish, believable attacks on hilary, mocking/eviscerating everyone else.  No campaign staff (30 to 70 vs HIlary's 800), not raising money (3 million total vs hilary 94 mil total).   If one could define a dem plant, he'd be doing everything Trump is doing.

And I think Trump is just too smart to do so well, then suddenly be so inept at simple organizational mgmt when he's run things 100 times bigger.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on June 28, 2016, 01:30:18 PM
I might be wrong.  I'm just one of 7 billion schmucks on this planet with an opinion :)

I guess the best Q is... If Trump was in fact a dem plant... intent on wrecking the GOP, underachieing and letting hilary win...

What would he be doing any differently?   Soft-ish, believable attacks on hilary, mocking/eviscerating everyone else.  No campaign staff (30 to 70 vs HIlary's 800), not raising money (3 million total vs hilary 94 mil total).   If one could define a dem plant, he'd be doing everything Trump is doing.

And I think Trump is just too smart to do so well, then suddenly be so inept at simple organizational mgmt when he's run things 100 times bigger.

The attacks on the Mexican judge, the gaffes over the Florida incident, alienating all the money on the GOP side...hmmm

something smells fishy!
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 28, 2016, 01:30:54 PM
you seem to be on to something with this line of reasoning

we'll have to monitor how things develops, perhaps a smoking gun will emerge eventually.

Don't count on it.  If it's as you suspect, then they'd know how infuriated about 100-million would be with Trump.  He'd be forced to buy a faraway island and stay there, and I doubt he wants to do that.  

He loves NY, like the shirt says.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on June 28, 2016, 01:33:35 PM
Don't count on it.  If it's as you suspect, then they'd know how infuriated about 100-million would be with Trump.  He'd be forced to buy a faraway island and stay there, and I doubt he wants to do that.  

He loves NY, like the shirt says.

we will have to examine in detail this scenario for the next 6 months

at least!!
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 28, 2016, 01:37:52 PM
The attacks on the Mexican judge, the gaffes over the Florida incident, alienating all the money on the GOP side...hmmm
something smells fishy!

But see... and correct me if I'm wrong... Trump WAITED until right when Rubio & Paul Ryan endorsed him, and THEN he immediately made the racist statement about the judge.  And he had chances, over and over, to clarify it, and he just doubled down on that position.  

It's like he somehow wanted to poison the well - to smear rubio and ryan with that same racist brush - by putting them in that position of sharing the headline and immediately having to explain/defend the racist shit.

I dunno, Trump may win by 40 states and I'll be completely wrong.  I'm not a know-it-all, I just like to have fun and debate things and predict and maybe get it right.  I still think *many* in the repub party believe he's tanking it on purpose, and are working to bounce him at the convention by letting the delegates vote how they want.    Many in the party have hinted at him being a plant, it's a valid theory, given his actions.  

Nobody can be this bad at running a campaign organization or raising money.  Trump didn't even bother calling donors when Priebus gave him the list.   And the fact Trump WILL NOT release the 45.7 million donation as a donation - he's keeping it as a "loan" - He can clean out the campaign coffers any day he wants, walk away, and leave the repub party completely screwed.  
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on June 28, 2016, 01:51:53 PM
But see... and correct me if I'm wrong... Trump WAITED until right when Rubio & Paul Ryan endorsed him, and THEN he immediately made the racist statement about the judge.  And he had chances, over and over, to clarify it, and he just doubled down on that position.  

It's like he somehow wanted to poison the well - to smear rubio and ryan with that same racist brush - by putting them in that position of sharing the headline and immediately having to explain/defend the racist shit.

I dunno, Trump may win by 40 states and I'll be completely wrong.  I'm not a know-it-all, I just like to have fun and debate things and predict and maybe get it right.  I still think *many* in the repub party believe he's tanking it on purpose, and are working to bounce him at the convention by letting the delegates vote how they want.    Many in the party have hinted at him being a plant, it's a valid theory, given his actions.  

Nobody can be this bad at running a campaign organization or raising money.  Trump didn't even bother calling donors when Priebus gave him the list.   And the fact Trump WILL NOT release the 45.7 million donation as a donation - he's keeping it as a "loan" - He can clean out the campaign coffers any day he wants, walk away, and leave the repub party completely screwed.  

there is a limit to "bad luck" and at a certain point nobody is so unlucky or incompetent.

it would take divine intervention to engineer this type of catastrophe.

you never know we may be witnessing the acts of God.

 ???

Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 28, 2016, 01:53:54 PM
we will have to examine in detail this scenario for the next 6 months

at least!!

Can't disagree, there.  But if so much as a wink, nod, nudge exists, then that means Hillary's in on it, too, which means it very likely won't be found imo.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Straw Man on June 28, 2016, 02:11:57 PM
His attacks on her have been weak in comparison to how he mocked and humiliated "fellow" republicans. 

And he is sliding in the polls.  His staff is 1/10 the size, and his 3 million compared to her 94 million?

yeah, he only said she was the most corrupt person to ever run for POTUS and said ""Her decisions spread death, destruction and terrorism everywhere she touched."

He also called her husband a rapist and said it was Hillary's fault that he cheated and also "he's hearing" they are responsible for the death of Vince Foster

So, most corrupt person to every run for POTUS and she spreads and death, destruction and terrorism whereever she goes

Yeah, sounds pretty weak compared to calliing someone Little Marco or Lying Ted
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 28, 2016, 02:14:39 PM
yeah, he only said she was the most corrupt person to ever run for POTUS and said ""Her decisions spread death, destruction and terrorism everywhere she touched."

He also called her husband a rapist and said it was Hillary's fault that he cheated and also "he's hearing" they are responsible for the death of Vince Foster

So, most corrupt person to every run for POTUS and she spreads and death, destruction and terrorism whereever she goes

Yeah, sounds pretty weak compared to calliing someone Little Marco or Lying Ted

His attacks are becoming bizarre and won't play with swing voters.

Just today, an average tuesday, he accused her of murder.  He used that word.   Seriously.   And this is after the vince foster CT that he put out there.


Trump is trivializing himself, trying to top himself daily.  He won't address hilary's policies - things that actually affect people.  Trump is reading the teleprompter when the party makes him, and saying crazy shit any other time he gets hold of a mic. 
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TheShape. on June 28, 2016, 02:42:46 PM
Do you believe Trump cares about anything (country included) more than he cares about himself?
You know if you actually stopped listening to the media you may learn something about Trump. In 1991 he sent a private jet to pick up troops in the Gulf.
(http://endingthefed.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/plane_photo_w_watermark_0_1463649006.jpg)
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Dr Dutch on June 28, 2016, 02:49:39 PM
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Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TheShape. on June 28, 2016, 02:53:55 PM
Oh yeah, really shitty person right?
https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/46y8w1/in_1986_trump_was_moved_by_a_news_report_about/
https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4id1l6/after_every_airline_refused_to_fly_this_dying_boy/d2x7hyd?utm_source=mweb_redirect&compact=true
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on June 28, 2016, 02:57:50 PM
You know if you actually stopped listening to the media you may learn something about Trump. In 1991 he sent a private jet to pick up troops in the Gulf.
(http://endingthefed.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/plane_photo_w_watermark_0_1463649006.jpg)

That's not possible. Trump wasn't involved with it by then.

The story you are incorrectly reporting is that when they returned to camp Lejune, NC trump sent a plane.

However, that's not true.

Because...

In September 1990 the loans were defaulted and ownership of the airline passed to its creditor banks, led by Citicorp.

So Hannity doesn't know what he's talking about and you have the story completely wrong.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

Trump didn't do shit!
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on June 28, 2016, 03:00:15 PM
Oh yeah, really shitty person right?
https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/46y8w1/in_1986_trump_was_moved_by_a_news_report_about/
https://m.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4id1l6/after_every_airline_refused_to_fly_this_dying_boy/d2x7hyd?utm_source=mweb_redirect&compact=true

Haha. Reddit. Yeah. There's that proof.

 ::)

You keep believing that Trump cares about anyone but Trump. It's your right.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on June 28, 2016, 03:10:52 PM
Trump's campaign owes him 45.7 million bucks.   He's already given himself 10% of all campaign donations, right back to his kids, his companies, and even 5000 paid to himself for no reason.   

Imagine what happens to all the senate and house races for the republican side, when the RNC ponies up 50 million to help Trump win.. and he just repays himself and take a month off to visit Scotland again and do some golfing.   All those Repub smaller races will suffer.

Basically Trump ran a free campaign to bring down all of H.Clintons republican opponents and most likely in the end Trump is actually going to make money off it...60 year old men aren't Dems all their life only to become a Repub when they approach 70 years old.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TheShape. on June 28, 2016, 03:11:31 PM
Haha. Reddit. Yeah. There's that proof.

 ::)

You keep believing that Trump cares about anyone but Trump. It's your right.

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/105/036/ada.jpg)
LOSERS HATE WINNERS
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on June 28, 2016, 03:21:03 PM
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/105/036/ada.jpg)
LOSERS HATE WINNERS

So will you hate Trump in November?

Because he isn't going to win.

Sorry dude.

And just because I can sense the next thing.

I hate Hillary too.

Fuck both of those anus sniffers.

I notice you didn't mention the previous post where I showed you your error regarding Trumps shit airline.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 28, 2016, 03:26:15 PM
So will you hate Trump in November?
Because he isn't going to win.
Sorry dude.
And just because I can sense the next thing.
I hate Hillary too.
Fuck both of those anus sniffers.
I notice you didn't mention the previous post where I showed you your error regarding Trumps shit airline.

Weeks before the convention... and Trump is doing worse, not better. 

The polls vary, and they don't mean a lot, but momentum isn't on his side. 


NOBODY Here truly believes Trump is a republican.  Hes a democrat that has a few key isolationist positions. 
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 28, 2016, 05:31:22 PM
I could drop 5 sentences which decimate hilary worse than anything Trump has given us.  So could you.  So could coach is he wasn't spinning tales of concussions. 

Trump is going easy on her.

Bullshit.  You will NEVER drop those 5 sentences because it would be easy to go out and find where Trump said the exact same things.  Lyingcrookedhillary.com has only listed the first 2 of many more to come.  You are desperate in your shilling for Shillary.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 28, 2016, 05:43:20 PM
Bullshit.  You will NEVER drop those 5 sentences because it would be easy to go out and find where Trump said the exact same things.  Lyingcrookedhillary.com has only listed the first 2 of many more to come.  You are desperate in your shilling for Shillary.

Most people for Hillary will either completely ignore it, preferring to believe "everyone is against" her -- or they'll troll it, like mr. turbo is doing.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: The Ugly on June 28, 2016, 05:45:22 PM
Bullshit.  You will NEVER drop those 5 sentences because it would be easy to go out and find where Trump said the exact same things.  Lyingcrookedhillary.com has only listed the first 2 of many more to come.  You are desperate in your shilling for Shillary.

They're both lying clowns, dummy.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 28, 2016, 05:53:39 PM
They're both lying clowns, dummy.

Won't drop the 5 lines as promised.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: The Ugly on June 28, 2016, 05:54:43 PM
Won't drop the 5 lines as promised.

A third lying clown, then. Shocking.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 28, 2016, 05:56:21 PM
Won't drop the 5 lines as promised.

if I drop 5 lines which are more succinct, precise, and brutal than the CT, awkward, 3rd grade level shit that trump is delivering...

will you wash my truck, bring me Culver's, and maybe stop at Cheesecake factory and get dessert too?  Would only be fair.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: The Ugly on June 28, 2016, 05:57:15 PM
Won't drop the 5 lines as promised.

Five lines of what?
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 28, 2016, 06:00:31 PM
Trump seems to be softballing it w her, but I probably haven't seen even 1% of any of the back-and-forth.  So I'm not the best judge.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 28, 2016, 06:04:09 PM
Trump seems to be softballing it w her, but I probably haven't seen even 1% of any of the back-and-forth.  So I'm not the best judge.

he was trolling Rubio, sending him water bottles and imitating him.

Branded jeb as a low energy pu$$y.
punked Cruz as a liar.
mocked carson as right on par with a child molester.


Yet with hilary?  "Her hubby cheated!"

He's gone easy on her - and she's the biggest target he'll face.   He knows her better than anyone...

Either he just lost his teeth OR he is going easy on her.   AND if he's going easy on her, you have to ask why...
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on June 28, 2016, 06:06:31 PM
Most people for Hillary will either completely ignore it, preferring to believe "everyone is against" her -- or they'll troll it, like mr. turbo is doing.

I clearly stated I'm not for Hillary

I'm just as opposed to Hillary as TRUMP!

 ;)

Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 28, 2016, 06:07:24 PM
he was trolling Rubio, sending him water bottles and imitating him.

Branded jeb as a low energy pu$$y.
punked Cruz as a liar.
mocked carson as right on par with a child molester.


Yet with hilary?  "Her hubby cheated!"

He's gone easy on her - and she's the biggest target he'll face.   He knows her better than anyone...

Either he just lost his teeth OR he is going easy on her.   AND if he's going easy on her, you have to ask why...

Lyingcrookedhillary.com:

"Hillary Clinton lied when she said there was “no classified material” on her illicit server – in the order of more than 2,000 classified emails and 22 “Top Secret” emails containing some of the nation’s most sensitive intelligence.
Her secret server was a foreign hacker’s dream, exposing classified material, jeopardizing our national security, and endangering lives all so she could shield HER SECRETS from public scrutiny.
Her reckless conduct and dishonest attempts to avoid accountability show she cannot be trusted in the White House."

Where's the 5 sentences?
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 28, 2016, 06:13:30 PM
he was trolling Rubio, sending him water bottles and imitating him.

Branded jeb as a low energy pu$$y.
punked Cruz as a liar.
mocked carson as right on par with a child molester.


Yet with hilary?  "Her hubby cheated!"

He's gone easy on her - and she's the biggest target he'll face.   He knows her better than anyone...

Either he just lost his teeth OR he is going easy on her.   AND if he's going easy on her, you have to ask why...

I remember when we were saying how the summer would tell the tale.  Well, hate to say it, but June is almost over and the only uptick I've seen is that he's reading material instead of firing it off thoughtlessly.  That's a big step, but I'm not even sure if he's doing that consistently.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 28, 2016, 06:14:23 PM
Lyingcrookedhillary.com:

"Hillary Clinton lied when she said there was “no classified material” on her illicit server – in the order of more than 2,000 classified emails and 22 “Top Secret” emails containing some of the nation’s most sensitive intelligence.
Her secret server was a foreign hacker’s dream, exposing classified material, jeopardizing our national security, and endangering lives all so she could shield HER SECRETS from public scrutiny.
Her reckless conduct and dishonest attempts to avoid accountability show she cannot be trusted in the White House."

Where's the 5 sentences?

Hilary is the shadiest MFer in the last 30 years of govt, and you cannot name one shadier.
Hilary spent a decade collecting payment from foreign govts for future favors when she became president.
Hilary let benghazi happen so Obama would win re-election so she didn't have to run against a sitting president in 2016.
Hilary makes Liz Warren look like a stable, prepared, trustworthy candidate for president.
Hilary is the dick cheney of the democrat party.

this took 45 seconds while I was eating quesidillas and buzzed off jack.  and it's way better than the lyinghilary list

(http://i.makeagif.com/media/7-11-2015/HD2s0W.gif)

Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 28, 2016, 06:19:35 PM
I clearly stated I'm not for Hillary

I'm just as opposed to Hillary as TRUMP!

 ;)



Are you saying you're equally opposed to each of them?

Or you're as opposed to her as Trump is, you mean?  lol  I get it.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Nails on June 28, 2016, 06:25:07 PM
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/7cHWR7wmjQc/hqdefault.jpg)





(http://nowaygirl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/deez-nuts-for-president-03-640x640.jpg)
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 28, 2016, 06:31:30 PM
Hilary is the shadiest MFer in the last 30 years of govt, and you cannot name one shadier.
Hilary spent a decade collecting payment from foreign govts for future favors when she became president.
Hilary let benghazi happen so Obama would win re-election so she didn't have to run against a sitting president in 2016.
Hilary makes Liz Warren look like a stable, prepared, trustworthy candidate for president.
Hilary is the dick cheney of the democrat party.

this took 45 seconds while I was eating quesidillas and buzzed off jack.  and it's way better than the lyinghilary list

(http://i.makeagif.com/media/7-11-2015/HD2s0W.gif)



He could get one of his bigtime lawyers to spell out a problem for her regarding Benghazi, the Clinton Foundation, and possibly her email server.  Stuff that is 1000x better and more convincing than what we see on the pathetic excuse for news.  You know it and I know it, and everyone else should know it.

No, I don't believe Trump is giving his best shot.  I really hope he gets it together as quickly as possible, though.  We need him.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 28, 2016, 06:35:16 PM
If the republicans backed him and openly got behind him, he'd gear up and put on a show. They're not, so I think he's acting like a bratty kid and doesn't care if he wins or not. He's going to take his ball and go home. Sucks.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 28, 2016, 06:38:26 PM
Hilary is the shadiest MFer in the last 30 years of govt, and you cannot name one shadier.
Hilary spent a decade collecting payment from foreign govts for future favors when she became president.
Hilary let benghazi happen so Obama would win re-election so she didn't have to run against a sitting president in 2016.
Hilary makes Liz Warren look like a stable, prepared, trustworthy candidate for president.
Hilary is the dick cheney of the democrat party.

this took 45 seconds while I was eating quesidillas and buzzed off jack.  and it's way better than the lyinghilary list


Other than the dick Cheney thing he has said every one of those things multiple times.  The reason you do t know that is because you stick to liberal sites like Huffpo.  Watch his antiHillary speech.  He called her the most corrupt person to run for President Ever or in the last 100 years.  Drop the quesadilla.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Nails on June 28, 2016, 06:45:05 PM
from his speech tonight


Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 29, 2016, 06:26:42 AM
Hahahahha.  It's a dead heat.

http://www.qu.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2363

Yes, a plant.  Ahahahahhaa.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: SF1900 on June 29, 2016, 09:13:08 AM
Hilary is the shadiest MFer in the last 30 years of govt, and you cannot name one shadier.
Hilary spent a decade collecting payment from foreign govts for future favors when she became president.
Hilary let benghazi happen so Obama would win re-election so she didn't have to run against a sitting president in 2016.
Hilary makes Liz Warren look like a stable, prepared, trustworthy candidate for president.
Hilary is the dick cheney of the democrat party.

this took 45 seconds while I was eating quesidillas and buzzed off jack.  and it's way better than the lyinghilary list

(http://i.makeagif.com/media/7-11-2015/HD2s0W.gif)



Trump vs Hillary.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 29, 2016, 11:57:47 AM
Hahahahha.  It's a dead heat.

http://www.qu.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2363

Yes, a plant.  Ahahahahhaa.


18% undecided.   Thats huge.  about 1/5 of voters hate Hilary and hate Trump. 
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 29, 2016, 01:43:21 PM
Trump better get in gear.

these battleground polls mean everything - national averages do not.

Florida by 14 for Hilary?   This was a massive trump win in primaries, and we have repub gov and senators...
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on June 29, 2016, 03:19:40 PM
Until his numbers get better,

it comes down to Trump either being incompetent

or tanking on purpose in order to serve some ulterior agenda.

starting to think it could be the latter....hmmm

 
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 29, 2016, 05:33:06 PM
18% undecided.   Thats huge.  about 1/5 of voters hate Hilary and hate Trump. 

Conventional wisdom is undecideds break 2 to 1 for the non incumbent.  Here Hillary is the party in power and a known candidate.  Your 5 lines turned out to be shit and the same old stuff Trump has already said, so I guess your pulling punches plant theory is equally junk.  Her coronation bump is over meanwhile terrorism, Brexit, illegals and political correctness keep rolling on.  Your need to bash Trump speaks volumes about how scared you are she will lose.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: SF1900 on June 29, 2016, 05:41:15 PM
Conventional wisdom is undecideds break 2 to 1 for the non incumbent.  Here Hillary is the party in power and a known candidate.  Your 5 lines turned out to be shit and the same old stuff Trump has already said, so I guess your pulling punches plant theory is equally junk.  Her coronation bump is over meanwhile terrorism, Brexit, illegals and political correctness keep rolling on.  Your need to bash Trump speaks volumes about how scared you are she will lose.

Who cares if 240 is scared that she will lose to Trump? Even if he is, what does this prove? Absolutely nothing. All that matters is who wins.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 29, 2016, 05:52:44 PM
Who cares if 240 is scared that she will lose to Trump? Even if he is, what does this prove? Absolutely nothing. All that matters is who wins.

The fear that infects his posts indicates his lack of contact with reality.  Trump is a plant because he isn't hitting her hard like this.  Then no acknowledgment that he is saying the exact same things.  Unhinged.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on June 29, 2016, 06:22:20 PM
All I will say is believe the polls.

In the past 12 years, the polls have always been right. No matter what you "feel", the polls are reality.

Look at the UK EU vote.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 29, 2016, 06:39:45 PM
All I will say is believe the polls.
In the past 12 years, the polls have always been right. No matter what you "feel", the polls are reality.

Plus, if ANYONE is going to steal a few states... rig election machines, etc.... it'll be hilary.

She pulled some really shady shit in those early states to beat Bernie.  6 of 6 coin flips going her way?  Come on...

If it's close in any way, the dems will be cheating like a mofo.  They learned a bit from Ohio 2004 ;)
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on June 29, 2016, 06:44:38 PM
Plus, if ANYONE is going to steal a few states... rig election machines, etc.... it'll be hilary.

She pulled some really shady shit in those early states to beat Bernie.  6 of 6 coin flips going her way?  Come on...

If it's close in any way, the dems will be cheating like a mofo.  They learned a bit from Ohio 2004 ;)

Yes. She's very shady.

I don't think it will be close though. I would love to see a 3rd party get involved though. They could steal a lot from both sides and make things interesting.

Fuck. This is seriously the worst presidential election in my entire life.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 29, 2016, 06:55:29 PM
All I will say is believe the polls.

In the past 12 years, the polls have always been right. No matter what you "feel", the polls are reality.

Look at the UK EU vote.

Hahaha, yes, remain was up by 5 points.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on June 29, 2016, 06:56:24 PM
Hahaha, yes, remain was up by 5 points.

No... They had it 50/50 at the polls.

People "felt" they would remain.... but the polls said otherwise.

Here's a blurb about why the "last" polls were skewed.

They took "unusual measures" with their final polls which "at first glance appear to be designed to push up the scores for Remain", he adds. These included the "fairly arbitrary" decision by ORB to allocate floating voters three-to-one in favour of Remain.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Tapeworm on June 29, 2016, 06:59:59 PM
I never said for Hillary.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 29, 2016, 08:17:58 PM
No... They had it 50/50 at the polls.

People "felt" they would remain.... but the polls said otherwise.

Here's a blurb about why the "last" polls were skewed.

They took "unusual measures" with their final polls which "at first glance appear to be designed to push up the scores for Remain", he adds. These included the "fairly arbitrary" decision by ORB to allocate floating voters three-to-one in favour of Remain.

No, it was up.  That is why there was such shock.  People didn't want to admit their preference to pollsters and be labeled racists because they were against "multiculturalism".  Same deal with Trump.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 29, 2016, 08:26:58 PM
Romney led obama after the 1st debate.  Then he stepped in 47% shit.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on June 29, 2016, 09:24:18 PM
No, it was up.  That is why there was such shock.  People didn't want to admit their preference to pollsters and be labeled racists because they were against "multiculturalism".  Same deal with Trump.

That's not what I've been reading.

Although, most of those people don't know what they were voting for either apparently and the next day there was huge buyers remorse.

No one knows what will happen now and that's causing lots of trouble.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 29, 2016, 09:27:26 PM
Romney led obama after the 1st debate.  Then he stepped in 47% shit.

That was his mistake.  Not saying it, but disavowing it.  By the way the polls that had Romney winning and the polls that had Obama winning, they were each correct because of the margin of error.  Polling is worthless as a predictor in answering anything close, but Trump won't be close.  He'll be far ahead.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 29, 2016, 09:29:11 PM
That's not what I've been reading.

Although, most of those people don't know what they were voting for either apparently and the next day there was huge buyers remorse.

No one knows what will happen now and that's causing lots of trouble.

Is that the new narrative being pushed?  They didn't know what they were voting for?  It's a very simple question.  More like liars remorse for the globalist pigs.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on June 29, 2016, 09:43:00 PM
Is that the new narrative being pushed?  They didn't know what they were voting for?  It's a very simple question.  More like liars remorse for the globalist pigs.
possibly. I suppose everyone could be lying.

I'm just saying what I've seen / read / heard.

After the global economy lost 2 trillion dollars people were not as excited. And again. I read a lot of people didn't realize the impact it would have.

Most people voted on emotion and not based on reality. Leaving a contract isn't as simple as walking away.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 29, 2016, 09:45:39 PM
That was his mistake.  Not saying it, but disavowing it.  By the way the polls that had Romney winning and the polls that had Obama winning, they were each correct because of the margin of error.  Polling is worthless as a predictor in answering anything close, but Trump won't be close.  He'll be far ahead.

okay.  what month will he move far ahead in the polls?
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 29, 2016, 09:56:34 PM
okay.  what month will he move far ahead in the polls?

It'll be the same as Reagan.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 29, 2016, 10:00:22 PM
It'll be the same as Reagan.

Nope.  Reagan never trailed Carter from May 1980 on.  Carter made a run in aug/sept, but everyone knew, the whole year, that reagan had it.   I was 4 at the time but will never forget. 
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 29, 2016, 10:02:10 PM
Nope.  Reagan never trailed Carter from May 1980 on.  Carter made a run in aug/sept, but everyone knew, the whole year, that reagan had it.   I was 4 at the time but will never forget. 


Umm, wrong.

October/November   
40%   44%   9%
39%   45%   9%
47%   44%   8%
Actual result
51% 41%

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_polling_for_U.S._Presidential_elections
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 29, 2016, 10:16:42 PM
It's a common myth, no worries.  

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/debunking-a-myth-reagan-was-leading-carter-long-before-that-final-october-debate/

 Reagan was never behind Carter in the poll of polls from May of 1980 onwards. Equally, Obama has never been behind Romney in national polls from November of 2011 onwards. Yes, Reagan did have a last minute surge to give him a landslide, thanks to the debates, but he would have won without it. From September on, the 1980 race looks a little like the current gap between the two candidates, but with the roles reversed. Carter was a few points behind, like Romney, but never managed to overtake him when it mattered, and then suddenly lost in a landslide.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 29, 2016, 10:21:25 PM
It's a common myth, no worries.  

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/debunking-a-myth-reagan-was-leading-carter-long-before-that-final-october-debate/

 Reagan was never behind Carter in the poll of polls from May of 1980 onwards. Equally, Obama has never been behind Romney in national polls from November of 2011 onwards. Yes, Reagan did have a last minute surge to give him a landslide, thanks to the debates, but he would have won without it. From September on, the 1980 race looks a little like the current gap between the two candidates, but with the roles reversed. Carter was a few points behind, like Romney, but never managed to overtake him when it mattered, and then suddenly lost in a landslide.


Your article cites to no specific data just some chart of unknown origin, mine cites to the Gallup poll.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 29, 2016, 10:22:21 PM
Your article cites to no specific data just some chart of unknown origin, mine cites to the Gallup poll.

mine is RCP
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/debunking-a-myth-reagan-was-leading-carter-long-before-that-final-october-debate/national-rcp-914/

and RCP is ALL the polls.  You're just rolling with one. 

So what month are you predicting Trump overtakes hilary by a wide margin?  Right at the end?
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on June 29, 2016, 10:22:35 PM
Your article cites to no specific data just some chart of unknown origin, mine cites to the Gallup poll.

There's a byline under graphs you could probably research to the inevitable conclusion.

It could be bullshit of course, but there are some guides to it.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 29, 2016, 10:26:41 PM
There's a byline under graphs you could probably research to the inevitable conclusion.

It could be bullshit of course, but there are some guides to it.

Why would I want to research when there is a Gallup poll proving what I said?  The byline also says it included "private polls" so it is doubtless of dubious provenance.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 29, 2016, 11:30:15 PM
Why would I want to research when there is a Gallup poll proving what I said?  The byline also says it included "private polls" so it is doubtless of dubious provenance.

gallup 1980 vs an average of 1980 polls?  I'd trust the average WAY more, particularly since it was 1980.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: SF1900 on June 30, 2016, 03:38:00 AM
Geez, 240 dismantling everyone in this thread.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on June 30, 2016, 04:04:00 AM
confusion exhausts the mind as it tries to resolve what it cannot

after a while it just gives up, and returns to patterns of less complexity.

trump to the rescue

make america great again, the wall is coming, something bad is happening...
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: SuperTed on June 30, 2016, 04:29:46 AM
All I will say is believe the polls.

In the past 12 years, the polls have always been right. No matter what you "feel", the polls are reality.

Look at the UK EU vote.

The polls have been shown to be inaccurate in the UK. Both with the EU referendum and last year's general election.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 30, 2016, 05:51:54 AM
gallup 1980 vs an average of 1980 polls?  I'd trust the average WAY more, particularly since it was 1980.


Not an average that includes data that comes from secret no publicly disclosed sources.  Oh look, here's another poll from today for you Hillary supporters to choke on:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch

Last week Hillary up 44 to 39 after all that favorable post coronation media during the week Trump took off.  Then Orlando reminds people and the polls coming out after that show all Trump and its reversed Trump 43 to Hillary 39.  That's a 10 point reversal in a week, who is collapsing here?

The butthurt Rs are coming home and the Sanders supporters are all going to stay home.  Hillary is uninspiring as Sanders, a terrible candidate, support clearly showed.

Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on June 30, 2016, 05:54:25 AM
operation trump is coming to fruition perfectly

stay tuned for updates

8)
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TheShape. on June 30, 2016, 06:10:24 AM
Geez, 240 dismantling everyone in this thread.
NERVOUS WRECK
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 30, 2016, 06:12:08 AM
NERVOUS WRECK

you cannot be thrilled with the 'momentum' or 'organization' or 'fundraising' that we've seen for trump.

what month do you think it'll be, before Trump takes a consistent 5 point lead over hilary?
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on June 30, 2016, 06:15:09 AM
Not an average that includes data that comes from secret no publicly disclosed sources.  Oh look, here's another poll from today for you Hillary supporters to choke on:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch

Last week Hillary up 44 to 39 after all that favorable post coronation media during the week Trump took off.  Then Orlando reminds people and the polls coming out after that show all Trump and its reversed Trump 43 to Hillary 39.  That's a 10 point reversal in a week, who is collapsing here?

The butthurt Rs are coming home and the Sanders supporters are all going to stay home.  Hillary is uninspiring as Sanders, a terrible candidate, support clearly showed.


we will see.

They are the only poll that has him up currently.

Not saying it can't happen, but honestly. It looks doubtful.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TheShape. on June 30, 2016, 06:19:58 AM
you cannot be thrilled with the 'momentum' or 'organization' or 'fundraising' that we've seen for trump.

what month do you think it'll be, before Trump takes a consistent 5 point lead over hilary?
Don't believe these polls, look at what happened with Brexit! The silent majority is real, even I didn't think that would happen. By the way, it's curious that last month he was doing so well and now all of a sudden he's not...The media will push anything to protect the elite, dishonest polls are second nature to them.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 30, 2016, 06:31:45 AM
Don't believe these polls, look at what happened with Brexit! The silent majority is real, even I didn't think that would happen. By the way, it's curious that last month he was doing so well and now all of a sudden he's not...The media will push anything to protect the elite, dishonest polls are second nature to them.

Yes people will tell strangers taking a poll that they support Trump when people like Tu Holmes, 240, and the entire media label such people racists.

Yesterday it was within the margin of error, today he is up.  These are all the postOrlando polls coming online, not the Hillary Coronation week polls.  Her support is collapsing because Bernie voters also hate her.

The real story in November is going to be the collapse of Democrat turnout.  The primaries already showed this.  Berniebots wont show.  Minorities won't show like they did with Obama.  Short haired white chicks with resting bitch face won't be able to carry it.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 30, 2016, 06:39:19 AM
I saw something to say about a third of Bernie's people will go Trump over Hillary.  Makes sense.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 30, 2016, 06:50:14 AM
Only poll which means anything is one to show a breakdown by states, anyway.  The 47% - 52% (or whatever) doesn't mean shit.

Yeah, right now it looks like Hillary has the advantage.  But Trump could reverse that if he wants to, no question about it.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 30, 2016, 07:29:45 AM
you cannot be thrilled with the 'momentum' or 'organization' or 'fundraising' that we've seen for trump.

what month do you think it'll be, before Trump takes a consistent 5 point lead over hilary?

Maybe never, but that'll be the result.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 30, 2016, 07:40:44 AM
Don't believe these polls

that's 2012 talk right there.   

Repubs' only defense of romney getting creamed in every poll was "don't believe the polls".  And the polls ended up pretty accurate.  It's 2016, they get a lot of it right these days.  If EVERY poll ends up with Hilary +5 come election day, Trump will not win. 
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 30, 2016, 07:51:23 AM
If the Blacks had gone Bernie, I wonder if that would have made the difference against Hillary.  Many of those early states came down to the black vote, so it seems so.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 30, 2016, 08:06:27 AM
If the Blacks had gone Bernie, I wonder if that would have made the difference against Hillary.  Many of those early states came down to the black vote, so it seems so.

Hilaey would have cheated if it was close.   like crazy.  She's gonna cheat so bad against Trump.  The 2004 Bush Ohio playbook ;)
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: RagingBull on June 30, 2016, 08:26:48 AM
This Rasmussen poll will ruin 240's day:

http://www.allenbwest.com/michele/just-in-latest-poll-bombshell
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 30, 2016, 08:28:25 AM
This Rasmussen poll will ruin 240's day:

http://www.allenbwest.com/michele/just-in-latest-poll-bombshell

Yeah, but... not really sure how much we can count on Rassmussn to be accurate and *unbiased*

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/political_commentary/commentary_by_michael_barone/going_out_on_a_limb_romney_beats_obama_handily

12 hours before the 2012 election, FOX-friendly Rassmussen made this prediction:

Bottom line: Romney 315, Obama 223
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on June 30, 2016, 08:33:28 AM
Yes people will tell strangers taking a poll that they support Trump when people like Tu Holmes, 240, and the entire media label such people racists.

Yesterday it was within the margin of error, today he is up.  These are all the postOrlando polls coming online, not the Hillary Coronation week polls.  Her support is collapsing because Bernie voters also hate her.

The real story in November is going to be the collapse of Democrat turnout.  The primaries already showed this.  Berniebots wont show.  Minorities won't show like they did with Obama.  Short haired white chicks with resting bitch face won't be able to carry it.


I find it interesting that I promote facts and you are stating an opinion.

I am not voting for Hillary or Trump, but go ahead and lump me in with the Democrats if it makes you feel better.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: SF1900 on June 30, 2016, 08:40:51 AM
NERVOUS WRECK

I actually think 240 is the most calm out of everyone, especially the Trump voters. Behind the perceived confidence of Trump voters, there is doubt and nervousness.

Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 30, 2016, 08:43:05 AM
I actually think 240 is the most calm out of everyone, especially the Trump voters. Behind the perceived confidence of Trump voters, there is doubt and nervousness.
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I'm a little excited about Trump, because he's a 911 Truther, and he's so close with alex jones.   We could see Bush on trial before the end of Trump's first year lol.

Hilary will be more of the same we have now.  johnson is interesting.

It could easily be Bernie/Warren vs Ryan/Cruz, for all we know.   Hilary should be indicted, Trump should get knocked out convention by delegates for GOP trolling and purposely tanking.   

No need to stress that much yet - get thru the conventions and indictments before anything else.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: SF1900 on June 30, 2016, 08:45:43 AM
NERVOUS WRECK

Though, I do not care who wins. Hell, I don't even vote.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 30, 2016, 09:05:07 AM
Hilaey would have cheated if it was close.   like crazy.  She's gonna cheat so bad against Trump.  The 2004 Bush Ohio playbook ;)

I agree.  If they weren't willing to cheat themselves as they did, then she'd gladly do it for them.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 30, 2016, 09:07:42 AM
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I'm a little excited about Trump, because he's a 911 Truther, and he's so close with alex jones.   We could see Bush on trial before the end of Trump's first year lol.

Hilary will be more of the same we have now.  johnson is interesting.

It could easily be Bernie/Warren vs Ryan/Cruz, for all we know.   Hilary should be indicted, Trump should get knocked out convention by delegates for GOP trolling and purposely tanking.   

No need to stress that much yet - get thru the conventions and indictments before anything else.

Alex Jones will have him "investigating" all the wrong stuff, though.  I'd love to know who introduced those two.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 30, 2016, 09:10:28 AM
I actually think 240 is the most calm out of everyone, especially the Trump voters. Behind the perceived confidence of Trump voters, there is doubt and nervousness.



If Hillary voters aren't doubtful and nervous, it's only because they're too stupid.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 30, 2016, 09:40:39 AM
If Hillary voters aren't doubtful and nervous, it's only because they're too stupid.

she's a weak candidate.  But he is flawed.  and weak usually beats flaws.  People prefer a shitty rowboat over a yacht with a big hold in the bottom.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 30, 2016, 09:47:31 AM
she's a weak candidate.  But he is flawed.  and weak usually beats flaws.  People prefer a shitty rowboat over a yacht with a big hold in the bottom.

You can't deny she's flawed, too.  And that unlike him, she's being protected by the media.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on June 30, 2016, 10:06:09 AM
You can't deny she's flawed, too.  And that unlike him, she's being protected by the media.

All candidates are flawed.

The question is to what level.

Both are extremely flawed and to be honest, are the worst candidates of either party at this point in time.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Erik C on June 30, 2016, 10:08:02 AM
You can't deny she's flawed, too.  And that unlike him, she's being protected by the media.

That's the real difference in the two candidates. How the establishment media treats them. For Trump, at first it was reporting on him as though the circus came to town, and he was the head clown, and as he progressed and started winning big time, he was attacked at every turn, yet he came out on top, over all the establishment Republican candidates, RINOs. He's still being attacked by the establishment media, and they're saying no one will vote for him, although the RINOs he beat were presented as just what America wants?

As for Hillary, its been the queen has arrived, everyone bow down to her, since the beginning of her campaign. As far as the establishment media is concerned, she can do no wrong, and every scandal, lie, crime, and shady deal of hers, that gets any press, is soon hidden away, with the "Let's move on here, nothing really to see people," attitude from the establishment media.

I'm also sick of hearing Hillary's screeching, annoying voice, that I can't stand the thought of having to hear, for another 4 years!

So, I'm Voting For President Trump 2016!
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 30, 2016, 10:11:40 AM
All candidates are flawed.

The question is to what level.

Both are extremely flawed and to be honest, are the worst candidates of either party at this point in time.

100% agree.  The way they're the most flawed is how they treat the interests of normal people.  That's the flaw we need to be concerned with.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 30, 2016, 10:20:37 AM
That's the real difference in the two candidates. How the establishment media treats them. For Trump, at first it was reporting on him as though the circus came to town, and he was the head clown, and as he progressed and started winning big time, he was attacked at every turn, yet he came out on top, over all the establishment Republican candidates, RINOs. He's still being attacked by the establishment media, and they're saying no one will vote for him, although the RINOs he beat were presented as just what America wants?

I know.  This is the part which drives me most crazy.  They're taking advantage of how thoughtless (literally, thoughtless) most individuals are.  And it's like: "OK. here you are.  This is what you want."

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As for Hillary, its been the queen has arrived, everyone bow down to her, since the beginning of her campaign. As far as the establishment media is concerned, she can do no wrong, and every scandal, lie, crime, and shady deal of hers, that gets any press, is soon hidden away, with the "Let's move on here, nothing really to see people," attitude from the establishment media.

I'm also sick of hearing Hillary's screeching, annoying voice, that I can't stand the thought of having to hear, for another 4 years!

So, I'm Voting For President Trump 2016!

She is a dangerous bitch.  I can't imagine all the bad shit due to happen under her "administration".  The ISIS ISIL Al Quada whatever will continue to spread while we're scolded not to "bully" the Arabs.  Millions more "migrants" will be shoved into every corner of our nation, half of them probably terrorists.  Fuck this shit.  This can't go on.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 30, 2016, 10:25:15 AM
You can't deny she's flawed, too.  And that unlike him, she's being protected by the media.

she has very bad health.   head and heart.  and yes, she's protected by the media, against trump and bernie too.

and she should be indicted - along with obama - for benghazi.  But excluding him is pure politics.

People think my attacks on trump are an endorsement of hilary - totally not the case.   Unlike our boy coach, no clinton will ever get my vote.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on June 30, 2016, 10:32:43 AM
she has very bad health.   head and heart.  and yes, she's protected by the media, against trump and bernie too.

and she should be indicted - along with obama - for benghazi.  But excluding him is pure politics.

People think my attacks on trump are an endorsement of hilary - totally not the case.   Unlike our boy coach, no clinton will ever get my vote.

What do you know about this one?  I'll admit to being 100% out of it on Benghazi.  I know people died while Obama leisurely and laughingly golfed during or right after it, but that's all.


Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: dr.chimps on June 30, 2016, 12:28:11 PM
she has very bad health.   head and heart.  and yes, she's protected by the media, against trump and bernie too.

and she should be indicted - along with obama - for benghazi.  But excluding him is pure politics.

People think my attacks on trump are an endorsement of hilary - totally not the case.   Unlike our boy coach, no clinton will ever get my vote.
Hmm. I don't know. She being very unforthcoming, guarded and is tight with her releases/ speeches/appearances. Trump, on the other hand, despite his shenanigans with reporters and barring certain news outlets, has been pretty open with the media - and given his lack of discretion and knowledge of policy it has done him no favours. Basically, Clinton is just sitting back and letting Trump dig his own grave.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on June 30, 2016, 02:13:53 PM
I know.  This is the part which drives me most crazy.  They're taking advantage of how thoughtless (literally, thoughtless) most individuals are.  And it's like: "OK. here you are.  This is what you want."

She is a dangerous bitch.  I can't imagine all the bad shit due to happen under her "administration".  The ISIS ISIL Al Quada whatever will continue to spread while we're scolded not to "bully" the Arabs.  Millions more "migrants" will be shoved into every corner of our nation, half of them probably terrorists.  Fuck this shit.  This can't go on.

This I actually question.

Does she immediately change the tone the second she's in office? Remember, It's Obama that's the secret Muslim right?

Not Hillary.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Erik C on June 30, 2016, 02:20:00 PM
This I actually question.

Does she immediately change the tone the second she's in office? Remember, It's Obama that's the secret Muslim right?

Not Hillary.

It's the muslims that are not so secretly paying Hillary, through the millions of dollars that they donated to the Clinton Crime Family Foundation, so yeah, she's working for radical islam, same as Obozo.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TheShape. on June 30, 2016, 05:33:25 PM
that's 2012 talk right there.   

Repubs' only defense of romney getting creamed in every poll was "don't believe the polls".  And the polls ended up pretty accurate.  It's 2016, they get a lot of it right these days.  If EVERY poll ends up with Hilary +5 come election day, Trump will not win. 
I Don't believe the polls either way, if they are good polls people start to think they don't need to go out and vote. The Brexit polls are going to be a clear indicator of what will happen in November, and as we saw it was very shocking. The outcome of Brexit removed all doubt from my mind Trump would lose, however I will not get comfortable because I would like to see a landslide win.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: dr.chimps on June 30, 2016, 05:49:33 PM
I Don't believe the polls either way, if they are good polls people start to think they don't need to go out and vote. The Brexit polls are going to be a clear indicator of what will happen in November, and as we saw it was very shocking. The outcome of Brexit removed all doubt from my mind Trump would lose, however I will not get comfortable because I would like to see a landslide win.
Settle, down, potato. Real people are talking politics.  ::)
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TheShape. on June 30, 2016, 08:17:31 PM
Settle, down, potato. Real people are talking politics.  ::)
:-*
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 30, 2016, 09:08:24 PM
I Don't believe the polls either way,

Presidential polls have been very accurate in the past few elections.

they don't matter much now, BUT they're accurate.  If a person is losing most of the year in most of the polls - they lose the election.  All stays equal, with Trump magically winning rassmussen while losing everywhere, then he will lose election.

Trump needs to be tied in most polls.  lead some, trail some, but it has to be a draw, or he lead big, to win.   I think you will agree - if Trump is down 6 points in 99% of the polls, and down 6 points in RCP, come first wee of november.... he ain't winning the election.  Agreed?
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on June 30, 2016, 10:30:33 PM
Presidential polls have been very accurate in the past few elections.

they don't matter much now, BUT they're accurate.  If a person is losing most of the year in most of the polls - they lose the election.  All stays equal, with Trump magically winning rassmussen while losing everywhere, then he will lose election.

Trump needs to be tied in most polls.  lead some, trail some, but it has to be a draw, or he lead big, to win.   I think you will agree - if Trump is down 6 points in 99% of the polls, and down 6 points in RCP, come first wee of november.... he ain't winning the election.  Agreed?

Actually Nate Silver the Lieberal polling guru was way out of line on Trump all through the primaries.  He is using old models and they proved to be shit and worthless.  He'd also change his predictions immediately before the actual vote to make it look like he was closer.  This isn't the same as 2012 with Romney.  It is an antiestablishment year like hasn't been seen since 1994.  And there hasn't been a 3rd Democrat term since when, FDR?
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 30, 2016, 10:36:24 PM
Actually Nate Silver the Lieberal polling guru was way out of line on Trump all through the primaries.  He is using old models and they proved to be shit and worthless.  He'd also change his predictions immediately before the actual vote to make it look like he was closer.  This isn't the same as 2012 with Romney.  It is an antiestablishment year like hasn't been seen since 1994.  And there hasn't been a 3rd Democrat term since when, FDR?

You're only MAKING my point - that any ONE poll or pollster can be off - but when 99% of them agree, it's safe to believe it's accurate.

You're making my case here, dude.   Rassmussen had Romney by what, 5 points, in 2012?   They predicted a 100 point Romney win - they were insanely wrong.   But they were just ONE.

At the end, the vast majority of polls had Obama winning, and he did, easily.   If the vast majority say Hilary will win, and they say it right before the election, then that is what will happen.


Also, you're forgetting Trump isn't a republican - Hilary and Trump are both de facto Dems, so yes, there will be a dem in office in 2017... we just have to figure out which one ;)     Any good repub would be wrecking hilary by 8 or 12 points right now, she's so weak, facing indictment, hated, sick, and just a basic bag of crap.   Problsm is, Trump just keeps going dumb things... who knows why...
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: SF1900 on June 30, 2016, 10:37:44 PM
Why do people keep harping on Hillary being indicted, etc? Just because you keep saying it, it doesn't mean it's going to happen.

It's never going to happen. She is rich and powerful. You're not. Case closed.  Get over it.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on June 30, 2016, 10:48:09 PM
Why do people keep harping on Hillary being indicted, etc? Just because you keep saying it, it doesn't mean it's going to happen.

It's never going to happen. She is rich and powerful. You're not. Case closed.  Get over it.

it probably won't happen.  But IF it did, she's done.   If there's a 1% chance that it'll happen, then it's worthy of discussion.

The only reason it hasn't happened is that the same inept "republicans" that couldn't bust obama for fast & furious, are now trying to bust hilary.  If they spent half as much time in the library, as they did in the makeup room for their many FOX news appearances to complain about hilary, they'd have her ass in shackles for that top secret email shady shit.

They just use her as a fundraiser - they don't WANT to run against Bernie/warren.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TheShape. on July 01, 2016, 05:49:41 AM
Too bad pollsters have been wrong all season. "Donald Trump will not get to 1237."  ::)
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on July 01, 2016, 07:19:46 AM
When the polls show trump getting owned ... just as predicted by EVERYONE then the polls must be wrong. Such is the delusional mindset of the trump supporter. One needs to present a specific flaw in the polling methodology.

The last election the Republicans polled themselves and predicted a Romney win. The flaw was they neglected to include the rest of the voters outside of their own echo chamber. But don't let this dissuade you. Santa is coming with a wall in his bag for Christmas.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on July 01, 2016, 07:53:41 AM
You're only MAKING my point - that any ONE poll or pollster can be off - but when 99% of them agree, it's safe to believe it's accurate.

You're making my case here, dude.   Rassmussen had Romney by what, 5 points, in 2012?   They predicted a 100 point Romney win - they were insanely wrong.   But they were just ONE.

At the end, the vast majority of polls had Obama winning, and he did, easily.   If the vast majority say Hilary will win, and they say it right before the election, then that is what will happen.


Also, you're forgetting Trump isn't a republican - Hilary and Trump are both de facto Dems, so yes, there will be a dem in office in 2017... we just have to figure out which one ;)     Any good repub would be wrecking hilary by 8 or 12 points right now, she's so weak, facing indictment, hated, sick, and just a basic bag of crap.   Problsm is, Trump just keeps going dumb things... who knows why...

Nate Silver isn't one poll, he gathers all polls.  Do you even know who he is?  You are making my point that you are a shill.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on July 01, 2016, 09:29:02 AM
Nate Silver isn't one poll, he gathers all polls.  Do you even know who he is?  You are making my point that you are a shill.

You're saying 538 does what RCP does?   Delivers a straight average?

I thought Silver was this predictive analyst, who used that data + his own theories to predict what would happen.  Worked with 2012, didn't work with Trump.   

I thought RCP was straight factual data, and Nate Silver was a pretend-guru that just USED that info to concoct his own theories/predictions?



If I'm wrong, tell me.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on July 01, 2016, 11:32:18 AM
Nate Silver isn't one poll, he gathers all polls.  Do you even know who he is?  You are making my point that you are a shill.

Maybe you're the one shilling for right-wing talking points.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Silver#FiveThirtyEight.27s_election_forecasts

Read about nate silver.   He uses demographic analysis to make his predictions.   RCP is an Aggregator. 

the are 2 different things ;)
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Las Vegas on July 01, 2016, 01:41:15 PM
This I actually question.

Does she immediately change the tone the second she's in office? Remember, It's Obama that's the secret Muslim right?

Not Hillary.

I wouldn't want to count on it.  She'll keep doing what Obama's been doing, pretty sure.  She's serving the same people as him.

We'll make damn good and sure that the people we claim to be fighting are able to increase in number.  We'll be sure to continue with Strategic Engineered Migration.  Can of white paint, a fright wig, and a fifth downed and you have Obama turn into Hillary.  No difference otherwise that I know of.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TheShape. on July 01, 2016, 03:32:12 PM
When the polls show trump getting owned ... just as predicted by EVERYONE then the polls must be wrong. Such is the delusional mindset of the trump supporter. One needs to present a specific flaw in the polling methodology.

The last election the Republicans polled themselves and predicted a Romney win. The flaw was they neglected to include the rest of the voters outside of their own echo chamber. But don't let this dissuade you. Santa is coming with a wall in his bag for Christmas.
So far the only delusional ones are the ones saying he would never run, would run only for a month, would not win a state, would not win the primaries and become the nominee...why should we believe pundits now? By the way, pollsters did a great job predicting Brexit didn't they?
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on July 02, 2016, 08:01:20 AM
Maybe you're the one shilling for right-wing talking points.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Silver#FiveThirtyEight.27s_election_forecasts

Read about nate silver.   He uses demographic analysis to make his predictions.   RCP is an Aggregator. 

the are 2 different things ;)

I don't need to go to Wikipedia to learn about Nate Silver and what 538 does, but thanks for exposing your own lack of knowledge.  RCP is an aggregator but leaves some polls out.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on July 02, 2016, 08:05:12 AM
So far the only delusional ones are the ones saying he would never run, would run only for a month, would not win a state, would not win the primaries and become the nominee...why should we believe pundits now? By the way, pollsters did a great job predicting Brexit didn't they?

Regarding Brexit, exactly.  Polls are worthless on anything slightly close.  The margin of error means they are right either way.  Maybe after Teump wins they'll post some articles claiming that the secret internal polls never released publicly showed it all along, like with Reagan.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: 240 is Back on July 02, 2016, 08:15:27 AM
I don't need to go to Wikipedia to learn about Nate Silver and what 538 does, but thanks for exposing your own lack of knowledge.  RCP is an aggregator but leaves some polls out.

Which ones do they leave out, and why?
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on July 02, 2016, 11:21:47 AM
So far the only delusional ones are the ones saying he would never run, would run only for a month, would not win a state, would not win the primaries and become the nominee...why should we believe pundits now? By the way, pollsters did a great job predicting Brexit didn't they?

It's pretty hard to draw conclusions because the analysts seem to have ignored the poll data showing a late stage surge for out voters. same thing with trump, because I recall him polling well ahead despite the analysts so I would not dismiss the poll data at all. there seems to be a sharp difference in online polling vs traditional methods. Looks like the online polls are more accurate if you want to identify a specific flaw.

long story short these examples support the case that polls should not be ignored.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on July 02, 2016, 04:46:36 PM
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 ???

oops?

TRUE ADONIS

explain this immediately!
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: Never1AShow on July 02, 2016, 04:58:48 PM
Is trump supposed to be antisemetic now?
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: dr.chimps on July 02, 2016, 05:01:18 PM
Hitlary. Really!? When did Getbig get so grasping? Even in the Matzi eugenics wars we were kinda witty and smartr.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: mr.turbo on July 02, 2016, 05:07:30 PM
Is trump supposed to be antisemetic now?


Trump Quickly Replaces Tweet That Prompted Cries of anti-Semitism Online
'Trump's new anti-Hilary ad is a pile of money overlaid with her face & a star of david,' wrote Max Fisher of the original image. 'Wonder what the message is?'


http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/u-s-election-2016/1.728477

Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: The Ugly on July 06, 2016, 05:50:57 PM
Hitlary. Really!? When did Getbig get so grasping? Even in the Matzi eugenics wars we were kinda witty and smartr.

Reagan was Hitler, Bush was Hitler, Obama is Hitler, Trump is Hitler. Now Hillary, except she's HitlAr, so there's that.

Who knows, maybe Adolf really just sucked at his job and told lies and stuff?

Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on July 06, 2016, 09:04:51 PM
Reagan was Hitler, Bush was Hitler, Obama is Hitler, Trump is Hitler. Now Hillary, except she's HitlAr, so there's that.

Who knows, maybe Adolf really just sucked at his job and told lies and stuff?



That was Goebbels.
Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: The Ugly on July 06, 2016, 10:07:08 PM
That was Goebbels.

Right, and Hitler actually murdered millions, huh? Evil, evil dude, I hear.

Maybe these partisan propagandists need a little f'n perspective?

Title: Re: All you fools who said Trump was a stooge for Hitlary
Post by: TuHolmes on July 06, 2016, 10:11:08 PM
Right, and Hitler actually murdered millions, huh? Evil, evil dude, I hear.

Maybe these partisan propagandists need a little f'n perspective?

That's the rumor.

Of course none of these people are as bad as Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, and many others... Hyperbole at its finest.