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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Simple Simon on July 16, 2016, 10:32:49 AM
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Why is it self confessed natties are always moaning about steroid users?
Steroid users never moan about people wanting to stay natty , could their problem by they yearn to be a user but just don't have the guts, or their partners permission?
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Knowing deep down us users are physically superior they seek to try to bring us down.
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superior?
any retard can take steroids
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There's always whiners wherever you go
The same nattys are probably being bullied and work and depressed
Boohoo
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superior?
any retard can take steroids
See what I mean? :D
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Imagine living your life as a bodybuilding natty monk, Tupperware bowls, creatine, anabolic windows religiously observed...
Then to never be recognised by anyone as a bodybuilder, if they get recognised as a lifter at all is an amazing accomplishment, its a sad existence.....
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They probably do it to deflect attention away from themselves. It's a diversionary tactic cuz they aren't natural
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I think the main reason is that some people just like to talk sHIT about others whom they feel are more successful in a number of various ways than they themselves are..
Better looking / better built / better home / better car / better wife or girlfriend / better income / better education / etc. / etc.
It is somewhat evident by the number of shit talkers on this GetBig Board .... But they do make it much more interesting.
It also tends to describe themselves more thoroughly.
Better shit-talkers tend to rule this board!
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Drug Envy??? ROFLMFAO!!!
I'm All Packed To Go On An Extended Vacation. Flying Out Monday Night. By Tuesday I'll Be Sitting On A Beautiful Private Beach, Loaded With Even More Beautiful Women, And I Am So Happy That I Naturally Look More Like Reg Park, Than Branch Warren!
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That "partners permission" type of guy is pretty common and really a pretty pathetic creature lol. Of course even these fellas use, but behind the partners back. Sometimes there is a whole family or even community who wouldn't accept drug use.
I remember a competitor who told me his parents said "if you ever fail a drug test you aren't our son".
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ERIK, Where is that private beach you mentioned above.
During my entire lifetime I have lived within walking distance of a few of the world's best beaches but I am not familiar with a private one.
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Knowing deep down us users are physically superior they seek to try to bring us down.
No offense, but you know that insecurity about your looks led you to steroid usage in the first place.
I'm not judging; just stating a fact. If you have the bravery to be honest with yourself; you will admit that I'm right.
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No offense, but you know that that insecurity about your looks led you to steroid usage in the first place.
I'm not judging; just stating a fact. If you have the bravery to be honest with yourself; you will admit that I'm right.
Lets be honest... Anyone that trains and eats sensibly has a little bit of that insecurity there, bodybuilding is all about looking good after all
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ERIK, Where is that private beach you mentioned above.
During my entire lifetime I have lived within walking distance of a few of the world's best beaches but I am not familiar with a private one.
Really? You Should Get Around More Often. It's A Private, Members Only Resort Outside The USA, On A Very Lovely Island.
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Imagine living your life as a bodybuilding natty monk, Tupperware bowls, creatine, anabolic windows religiously observed...
Then to never be recognised by anyone as a bodybuilder, if they get recognised as a lifter at all is an amazing accomplishment, its a sad existence.....
Exactly. This is their existence. They'd rather dedicate their entire life to building a Bugatti or a Bentley from scratch, but never actually put an engine in it because they "want to remain natural for morality's sake." Hilarious. Why put in 100% effort into one of the most difficult things to do with the human body, building an impressive physique, that is totally based on vanity, only to never be recognized for your effort?
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Drug Envy??? ROFLMFAO!!!
I'm All Packed To Go On An Extended Vacation. Flying Out Monday Night. By Tuesday I'll Be Sitting On A Beautiful Private Beach, Loaded With Even More Beautiful Women, And I Am So Happy That I Naturally Look More Like Reg Park, Than Branch Warren!
Pics of reg park physique please.
Amazing you have all those things going for you yet you still feel the need to attack random strangers for taking drugs?
Why is that?
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Really? You Should Get Around More Often. It's A Private, Members Only Resort Outside The USA, On A Very Lovely Island.
And anyone with a half decent physique is banned to stop you from screaming at your wife that they are drug users every time they walk past.
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Amazing you have all those things going for you yet you still feel the need to attack random strangers for taking drugs?
Why is that?
I'm Not Attacking Anyone For Taking Drugs. I Just Tell You That I'm Not Taking Them. Appears That You Are A Bit Too Sensitive, About Someone Not Doing It Your Way. I Don't Care What You Do With Your Life And Body. Gargle With Bleach To Get Rid Of Your Bad Breath, If You Want. It's Your Body To Destroy After All.
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Main reason why I stay away from it is not because its "physical" side effects or shortening of lifespan.
Mostly I dont want to use it because it alters your mind. Overly excessive testosterone makes you dumber. Scientific studies shows. It makes you more prone to take drastic not so well thought out decisions. You reflect less about things, which is a bad thing with logical reasoning.
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Main reason why I stay away from it is not because its "physical" side effects or shortening of lifespan.
Mostly I dont want to use it because it alters your mind. Overly excessive testosterone makes you dumber. Scientific studies shows. It makes you more prone to take drastic not so well thought out decisions. You reflect less about things, which is a bad thing with logical reasoning.
It does none of those things. Keep living in the dark..
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I'm Not Attacking Anyone For Taking Drugs. I Just Tell You That I'm Not Taking Them. Appears That You Are A Bit Too Sensitive, About Someone Not Doing It Your Way. I Don't Care What You Do With Your Life And Body. Gargle With Bleach To Get Rid Of Your Bad Breath, If You Want. It's Your Body To Destroy After All.
Reg park taught Arnold all about steroids.
Now, are you going to post a pic of just fuck off to your secluded cove , the only place you feel comfortable taking your shirt off?
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I have zero problems with people using PED's I think they should be legal. However I don't get using them for no reason , I get using them for sports because there is an incentive financially , but to use massive amounts of PEDs to be a gym rat makes no sense. Hey you have 200K subscribers on Youtube lol congrats for putting your heath at risk for what?
We know prohibition doesn't work so make them legal. Thank George W for dropping the hammer on PEDs. The best saying I've ever heard attributed to steroids was. " The biggest problem with steroids is.....................T hey work. "
We need to stop legislating morality and stop with this " equal playing field " it will NEVER be equal , Nature isn't equal some of us get fantastic genetics and most of us don't.
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Main reason why I stay away from it is not because its "physical" side effects or shortening of lifespan.
Mostly I dont want to use it because it alters your mind. Overly excessive testosterone makes you dumber. Scientific studies shows. It makes you more prone to take drastic not so well thought out decisions. You reflect less about things, which is a bad thing with logical reasoning.
Enjoy the last 5 or 10 years of your life sitting in your own shit in an old folks home.
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I have zero problems with people using PED's I think they should be legal. However I don't get using them for no reason , I get using them for sports because there is an incentive financially , but to use massive amounts of PEDs to be a gym rat makes no sense. Hey you have 200K subscribers on Youtube lol congrats for putting your heath at risk for what?
We know prohibition doesn't work so make them legal. Thank George W for dropping the hammer on PEDs. The best saying I've ever heard attributed to steroids was. " The biggest problem with steroids is.....................T hey work. "
We need to stop legislating morality and stop with this " equal playing field " it will NEVER be equal , Nature isn't equal some of us get fantastic genetics and most of us don't.
And taking them to win a plastic trophy makes sense?
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Why is it self confessed natties are always moaning about steroid users?
Steroid users never moan about people wanting to stay natty , could their problem by they yearn to be a user but just don't have the guts, or their partners permission?
I have seen users that make fun of nattys for choosing to stay natty,healthy,not cheat etc.
But the worse are the fake nattys,especially this one guy that was always pointing out that he was genetically gifted and at the same time was advising some kids to "cross over to the dark side" because they aren't going to be jacked considering their bad genetically,and preached that AAS are healthy.
Definitely was using himself,and heavy.A real piece of shit.
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Reg park taught Arnold all about steroids.
Now, are you going to post a pic of just fuck off to your secluded cove , the only place you feel comfortable taking your shirt off?
Arnold Did Roids Way Before He Ever Met Reg Park. Reg Park Told Him How To Lift Heavy For Better Results.
I'm Not Looking To Attract Schmoes. I'll Leave That Kind Of "Action" All For You. Maybe One Will "Adopt" You!
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Arnold Did Roids Way Before He Ever Met Reg Park. Reg Park Told Him How To Lift Heavy For Better Results.
I'm Not Looking To Attract Schmoes. I'll Leave That Kind Of "Action" All For You. Maybe One Will "Adopt" You!
Nope, you are spouting shit and not backing anything up.
Get yourself on that wonderful vacation and just think how popular you might be if you looked half decent.
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And taking them to win a plastic trophy makes sense?
Some make a good living out of it. Most don't. Nothing about professional bodybuilding makes sense.
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Some make a good living out of it. Most don't. Nothing about professional bodybuilding makes sense.
And some do it to get a lot of guys or girls, it's all relative.
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Nope, you are spouting shit and not backing anything up.
Get yourself on that wonderful vacation and just think how popular you might be if you looked half decent.
You Spouted Shit About Reg Park And Arnold. I Just Posted Scientifically Accurate Diet Information, And You Childishly Threw A Tantrum, Because You Clearly Lack The Self Discipline To Do It. I'm Not Opposed To You Doing Your Drugs. I Couldn't Care Less What You Do. It Means Nothing To My Life. Same As Your Views On Anything At All.
And I Shall Have A Wonderful Vacation, And I Shall Be My Usual Popular Self With The Ladies. You Enjoy "Impressing" The Schmoes.
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You Spouted Shit About Reg Park And Arnold. I Just Posted Scientifically Accurate Diet Information, And You Childishly Threw A Tantrum, Because You Clearly Lack The Self Discipline To Do It. I'm Not Opposed To You Doing Your Drugs. I Couldn't Care Less What You Do. It Means Nothing To My Life. Same As Your Views On Anything At All.
And I Shall Have A Wonderful Vacation, And I Shall Be My Usual Popular Self With The Ladies. You Enjoy "Impressing" The Schmoes.
Great, so stop commenting in every other thread about people using drugs if it doesn't matter to you.
I only started this thread so I could get you to this point.
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Nope, you are spouting shit and not backing anything up.
Get yourself on that wonderful vacation and just think how popular you might be if you looked half decent.
Picture of Be There ripped and shirtless coming up in 3, 2, 1...
Just kidding BT ;D
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Picture of Be There ripped and shirtless coming up in 3, 2, 1...
Just kidding BT ;D
;D
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Great, so stop commenting in every other thread about people using drugs if it doesn't matter to you.
I only started this thread so I could get you to this point.
I Only Commented When Someone Said That It Doesn't Matter What You Eat If You Use Gear. That's Totally Stupid. I Didn't Say Anything About Drugs, Except That I Don't Use Them.
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I Only Commented When Someone Said That It Doesn't Matter What You Eat If You Use Gear. That's Totally Stupid. I Didn't Say Anything About Drugs, Except That I Don't Use Them.
Every single achievement anyone has you attribute to them using drugs.
Shut the fuck up about it, in fact stop telling people you don't use them, no one fucking cares.
You could prove you are natty by posting a pic if you like.
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Every single achievement anyone has you attribute to them using drugs.
Shut the fuck up about it, in fact stop telling people you don't use them, no one fucking cares.
You could prove you are natty by posting a pic if you like.
You Really Need To Take A Course In Reading Comprehension.
And, If I Posted A Picture, Then You'd Say I Wasn't Natty.
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You Spouted Shit About Reg Park And Arnold. I Just Posted Scientifically Accurate Diet Information, And You Childishly Threw A Tantrum, Because You Clearly Lack The Self Discipline To Do It. I'm Not Opposed To You Doing Your Drugs. I Couldn't Care Less What You Do. It Means Nothing To My Life. Same As Your Views On Anything At All.
And I Shall Have A Wonderful Vacation, And I Shall Be My Usual Popular Self With The Ladies. You Enjoy "Impressing" The Schmoes.
It's not scientific if the studies (and your physique) that have been done contradict what you say...
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You can tell by the aggressive nature of Erik C's posts that he is entirely unhappy being dominated by PED users. In fact, he has to remind us that he seeks out feelings of self worth through apparent female acceptance. He will remain a figure of submission and will seek out feelings of self worth through ideology surrounding a supposed superiority of being steroid free and buying female attention.
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I don't care if someone chooses to use drugs or not, however I have concerns and annoyances about the whole culture in general such as
1-Kids/adults going on juice who can't bench, squat, deadlift, row or shoulder press(all free weights) anywhere near their bodyweight let alone for any quality reps(dont care about the speed of the rep, fast or slow, but at least with decent form). Same problem I have with Natties who bitch about users btw in regards to exercise
2- Kids/adults who jump on all kinds of drugs yet eat/drink too much of the wrong things or worse yet not enough> FFS its not the 80's where everyone had no clue about food, supps or knowledge at fingertips. Same can also be said of whiny natties about the food/supp thing
3- Nobody building any kind of base, yeah I know blah blah blah its a myth, well if its a myth then how come when I stopped training for 4 years and when I got sick 2 years ago I went down to under 160lbs(244 now) yet I still had a 48 inch torso despite being sort of emaciated for me at that weight? Because I build alot of size years ago and my body compensated by laying a frame to hold it. total bro-science but true story. Anyways my point is nobody learns to train without drugs these days, years ago most had a couple years if not a decade before taking the plunge.
4- users not being as strong as they look when under 40. I say under 40 because after while still being able to train heavy, most people have to work around aches and pains not just caused by the gym/sports but everyday life. But yeah I see in the gyms young guys on the gear and they lift fuck all compared to the guys on the gas that I saw in the mid 80's to mid 90's. I don't know about the American Gyms too much aside from the mags but you Canadians from Montreal and Toronto remember the gyms back in the heydays I mentioned. Hell even the guys not doing drugs back then were lifting more for reps than most guys on gas max out on today.
5- too many young guys watching videos from Metroflex gym. Metroflex encourages that nonsense, and there is nothing worse than watching some kid/adult on/off the sauce throwing a pair of 40lbs dumbells on the floor or letting a cable stack crash down upon completing of some spastic retard set like you think you are a twink version of JOJ and Branch. That shit is for retards and to entertain.
6- Natties who cry about drug use yet have no problem eating and drinking all kinds of bullshit
7- Drug users who think that just because they need 10 grams of juice to look like a shit competitor that must mean pros must take 30 grams. Pros are pros not because of the drugs they take but because of the way their bodies can absorb everything and respond to training, drugs, food, rest ,etc. Ronnie and Frank zane could take a small amount of dbol in their 20's eat, and train and still look 10 times better than 99.9% of the people who workout.
8-Guys who have never taken drugs or who have done one or 2 cycles being known as experts online because they are good as cut and paste.
Ex- I post many stupid faceinhole pics, doesnt make me a photoshop expert, just a guy who knows how to place a head photo into a hole and click save
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You Really Need To Take A Course In Reading Comprehension.
And, If I Posted A Picture, Then You'd Say I Wasn't Natty.
All natties have a false sense of identity, I bet you look more like rosa park.
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I don't care if someone chooses to use drugs or not, however I have concerns and annoyances about the whole culture in general such as
1-Kids/adults going on juice who can't bench, squat, deadlift, row or shoulder press(all free weights) anywhere near their bodyweight let alone for any quality reps(dont care about the speed of the rep, fast or slow, but at least with decent form). Same problem I have with Natties who bitch about users btw in regards to exercise
2- Kids/adults who jump on all kinds of drugs yet eat/drink too much of the wrong things or worse yet not enough> FFS its not the 80's where everyone had no clue about food, supps or knowledge at fingertips. Same can also be said of whiny natties about the food/supp thing
3- Nobody building any kind of base, yeah I know blah blah blah its a myth, well if its a myth then how come when I stopped training for 4 years and when I got sick 2 years ago I went down to under 160lbs(244 now) yet I still had a 48 inch torso despite being sort of emaciated for me at that weight? Because I build alot of size years ago and my body compensated by laying a frame to hold it. total bro-science but true story. Anyways my point is nobody learns to train without drugs these days, years ago most had a couple years if not a decade before taking the plunge.
4- users not being as strong as they look when under 40. I say under 40 because after while still being able to train heavy, most people have to work around aches and pains not just caused by the gym/sports but everyday life. But yeah I see in the gyms young guys on the gear and they lift fuck all compared to the guys on the gas that I saw in the mid 80's to mid 90's. I don't know about the American Gyms too much aside from the mags but you Canadians from Montreal and Toronto remember the gyms back in the heydays I mentioned. Hell even the guys not doing drugs back then were lifting more for reps than most guys on gas max out on today.
5- too many young guys watching videos from Metroflex gym. Metroflex encourages that nonsense, and there is nothing worse than watching some kid/adult on/off the sauce throwing a pair of 40lbs dumbells on the floor or letting a cable stack crash down upon completing of some spastic retard set like you think you are a twink version of JOJ and Branch. That shit is for retards and to entertain.
6- Natties who cry about drug use yet have no problem eating and drinking all kinds of bullshit
7- Drug users who think that just because they need 10 grams of juice to look like a shit competitor that must mean pros must take 30 grams. Pros are pros not because of the drugs they take but because of the way their bodies can absorb everything and respond to training, drugs, food, rest ,etc. Ronnie and Frank zane could take a small amount of dbol in their 20's eat, and train and still look 10 times better than 99.9% of the people who workout.
8-Guys who have never taken drugs or who have done one or 2 cycles being known as experts online because they are good as cut and paste.
Ex- I post many stupid faceinhole pics, doesnt make me a photoshop expert, just a guy who knows how to place a head photo into a hole and click save
Growing your frame?
Oh brother.......
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why am I reading this
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I don't care if someone chooses to use drugs or not, however I have concerns and annoyances about the whole culture in general such as
1-Kids/adults going on juice who can't bench, squat, deadlift, row or shoulder press(all free weights) anywhere near their bodyweight let alone for any quality reps(dont care about the speed of the rep, fast or slow, but at least with decent form). Same problem I have with Natties who bitch about users btw in regards to exercise
2- Kids/adults who jump on all kinds of drugs yet eat/drink too much of the wrong things or worse yet not enough> FFS its not the 80's where everyone had no clue about food, supps or knowledge at fingertips. Same can also be said of whiny natties about the food/supp thing
3- Nobody building any kind of base, yeah I know blah blah blah its a myth, well if its a myth then how come when I stopped training for 4 years and when I got sick 2 years ago I went down to under 160lbs(244 now) yet I still had a 48 inch torso despite being sort of emaciated for me at that weight? Because I build alot of size years ago and my body compensated by laying a frame to hold it. total bro-science but true story. Anyways my point is nobody learns to train without drugs these days, years ago most had a couple years if not a decade before taking the plunge.
4- users not being as strong as they look when under 40. I say under 40 because after while still being able to train heavy, most people have to work around aches and pains not just caused by the gym/sports but everyday life. But yeah I see in the gyms young guys on the gear and they lift fuck all compared to the guys on the gas that I saw in the mid 80's to mid 90's. I don't know about the American Gyms too much aside from the mags but you Canadians from Montreal and Toronto remember the gyms back in the heydays I mentioned. Hell even the guys not doing drugs back then were lifting more for reps than most guys on gas max out on today.
5- too many young guys watching videos from Metroflex gym. Metroflex encourages that nonsense, and there is nothing worse than watching some kid/adult on/off the sauce throwing a pair of 40lbs dumbells on the floor or letting a cable stack crash down upon completing of some spastic retard set like you think you are a twink version of JOJ and Branch. That shit is for retards and to entertain.
6- Natties who cry about drug use yet have no problem eating and drinking all kinds of bullshit
7- Drug users who think that just because they need 10 grams of juice to look like a shit competitor that must mean pros must take 30 grams. Pros are pros not because of the drugs they take but because of the way their bodies can absorb everything and respond to training, drugs, food, rest ,etc. Ronnie and Frank zane could take a small amount of dbol in their 20's eat, and train and still look 10 times better than 99.9% of the people who workout.
8-Guys who have never taken drugs or who have done one or 2 cycles being known as experts online because they are good as cut and paste.
Ex- I post many stupid faceinhole pics, doesnt make me a photoshop expert, just a guy who knows how to place a head photo into a hole and click save
Get off your soapbox, people are not perfect, most people don't even have the time nor inclination to perfect their process. Even the greatest who make the most sacrifice don't have a perfect process despite PED use.
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bitter naturals are a bunch of losers who refuse to destroy their health with steroids, but complain that those who do, get gains
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Why do drug users care about what natural trainers say? This whole thread is insecure drug users trying to justify there use through rationalization. If drug users were really pro drug they would tell everyone who compliments their physique that they don't normally look like this and it's the drugs. Of course they don't because they want the credit when they know without the drug assist they would look very different.
I don't care what drug users take. I just find it comical that they are so insecure that they would risk health and arrest to be thought of as a man. I have been around this game a long time. I see the same pattern of bodybuilders. Guys that threw away education, job training and future careers to chase the syringe life style. Then after cycling for a decade or two they have to stop. It's either finances, arrest or declining health. Do some escape health problems? It's like smokers saying they know an eighty year old that smokes. It's a risk to health and showing those that escaped the odds is just a bad talking point for a debate. I have seen so many who had to stop juicing go around showing a wrinkled picture they keep in their wallet that they like show people how they use to look. Many look like they never did a push up in their life. Many have said training without the assist is a waste of time.
Take what ever you want. Just don't expect me to give you praise. You don't deserve it. I know what you would look like clean and it isn't pretty.
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Why is it self confessed natties are always moaning about steroid users?
Steroid users never moan about people wanting to stay natty , could their problem by they yearn to be a user but just don't have the guts, or their partners permission?
Haha I know that statement sounds ludicrous but have known a few people in that exact situation. It's pathetic
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I guess doing some sterons and pumping out consistently without tearing yourself apart is way healthier than the "all natural + lifting huge weights" route.
Problem may be the ego which might constantly drive one to test themselves with bigger poundages...
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Why do drug users care about what natural trainers say? This whole thread is insecure drug users trying to justify there use through rationalization. If drug users were really pro drug they would tell everyone who compliments their physique that they don't normally look like this and it's the drugs. Of course they don't because they want the credit when they know without the drug assist they would look very different.
I don't care what drug users take. I just find it comical that they are so insecure that they would risk health and arrest to be thought of as a man. I have been around this game a long time. I see the same pattern of bodybuilders. Guys that threw away education, job training and future careers to chase the syringe life style. Then after cycling for a decade or two they have to stop. It's either finances, arrest or declining health. Do some escape health problems? It's like smokers saying they know an eighty year old that smokes. It's a risk to health and showing those that escaped the odds is just a bad talking point for a debate. I have seen so many who had to stop juicing go around showing a wrinkled picture they keep in their wallet that they like show people how they use to look. Many look like they never did a push up in their life. Many have said training without the assist is a waste of time.
Take what ever you want. Just don't expect me to give you praise. You don't deserve it. I know what you would look like clean and it isn't pretty.
You appear to be quite bitter about those who engage in PED use. Are you OK?
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what's funny bout all this is that peeps think that if one jumps on gear they will automatically have a great bod and that assumption is dead wrong
there are plenty of guys with shit genetics who run gear and still look like crap
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what's funny bout all this is that peeps think that if one jumps on gear they will automatically have a great bod and that assumption is dead wrong
THIS!
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Imagine living your life as a bodybuilding natty monk, Tupperware bowls, creatine, anabolic windows religiously observed...
Then to never be recognised by anyone as a bodybuilder, if they get recognised as a lifter at all is an amazing accomplishment, its a sad existence.....
This
'Salt' builds naturally as a natty builds cortisol working out so much, hating, and not eating enough cause they have no appetite - the admiration and envy of them, they also build that shit up in the people around them cause it's all they talk about 'lifting, their gains, their food"
youre kind of forced to direct your negative shit toward someone, esp if their girl works out a lot too , so I don't mind - a lot of young professionals do it but in a snide manner
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A very successful troll by Mr Shoehorn. ;D
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THIS!
i was talking mainly to you bro, so kinda funny that you agreed with me :D
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Why is it self confessed natties are always moaning about steroid users?
Steroid users never moan about people wanting to stay natty , could their problem by they yearn to be a user but just don't have the guts, or their partners permission?
THAT attitude was one of the major factors that drove me away from natural contests.
I dabbled in moderate cycles for awhile in the mid 1980's.
For $$ and various personal reasons, I competed drug free in the 90's then hung it up and judged by '96.
I competed in a few drug tested feds but hated the holier then thou, natty attitude of many in it.
Plus, most natural contests were half-assed , small, poorly organized events.
For me , it was a lot more personal satisfaction to compete in UNtested shows without drugs.
I didn't kid myself and knew I was limited on how high I could go without the juice.
I figured I wasn't going to be competitive with Haney or Yates, regardless of what I took, so wtf.
The coolest thing was placing in my wt class at an NPC show and having 'em assume I was juiced.
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i was talking mainly to you bro, so kinda funny that you agreed with me :D
You're Obviously Confused Then. I Don't Use Drugs.
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You're Obviously Confused Then. I Don't Use Drugs.
Really?
You never said.
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Really?
You never said.
OK. You're Just A Troll. I Wasted My Time. My Bad.
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You're Obviously Confused Then. I Don't Use Drugs.
...and you think he's confused?
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...and you think he's confused?
Maybe Not As Confused As You Are.
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Get off your soapbox, people are not perfect, most people don't even have the time nor inclination to perfect their process. Even the greatest who make the most sacrifice don't have a perfect process despite PED use.
sounds like I hit a sore spot, my opinion and I will stay on my soapbox thanks very much.
like I said nothing for or against drugs but most on both sides are lazy and are everything I pointed out above
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- Girl with pretty face, nice butt and rack
- girl who isnt so pretty, avg butt and small tits gets plastic surgery.
Make sense ?
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I don't do steroids for a variety of reasons, but the main reason I do not do them is the legal ramifications associated with getting caught. If I got caught and charged with possession of steroids (or any drug), my whole career would be down the crapper. It would be stupid of me to risk a lot for an extra 2" on my arms.
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Why do drug users care about what natural trainers say? This whole thread is insecure drug users trying to justify there use through rationalization. If drug users were really pro drug they would tell everyone who compliments their physique that they don't normally look like this and it's the drugs. Of course they don't because they want the credit when they know without the drug assist they would look very different.
I don't care what drug users take. I just find it comical that they are so insecure that they would risk health and arrest to be thought of as a man. I have been around this game a long time. I see the same pattern of bodybuilders. Guys that threw away education, job training and future careers to chase the syringe life style. Then after cycling for a decade or two they have to stop. It's either finances, arrest or declining health. Do some escape health problems? It's like smokers saying they know an eighty year old that smokes. It's a risk to health and showing those that escaped the odds is just a bad talking point for a debate. I have seen so many who had to stop juicing go around showing a wrinkled picture they keep in their wallet that they like show people how they use to look. Many look like they never did a push up in their life. Many have said training without the assist is a waste of time.
Take what ever you want. Just don't expect me to give you praise. You don't deserve it. I know what you would look like clean and it isn't pretty.
i'm going to ask you again for at least the 6th or 7th time because you never answer
have you ever used steroids?
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Why is it self confessed natties are always moaning about steroid users?
Steroid users never moan about people wanting to stay natty , could their problem by they yearn to be a user but just don't have the guts, or their partners permission?
Well, any given fool can use drugs to make muscles, and this has been proved by Genova, Rich Piana etc. drooling morons. Any fool can grow muscles using drugs, but why you should do it? 90% of users of anabolics doesn't even dream about competing in any sport, they use drugs because of their ego, and that is ridiculous thing to do. It isn't envy, it's just too stupid thing to understand with normal brains, so they are just amazed by that stupidity. Just think what happen when these steroid users stop their cycle. In weeks they lost all the muscles they ever have, and they are just like any other twat you see walking around. It is all in their heads, nothing more. These guys should understand that no one can see what they think they are inside their heads. All we other see is moron training like an ape and cheating himself by using steroids to think that he is somewhat special. Well, he really is, he is stupider than most of others ;D
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Well, any given fool can use drugs to make muscles, and this has been proved by Genova, Rich Piana etc. drooling morons. Any fool can grow muscles using drugs, but why you should do it? 90% of users of anabolics doesn't even dream about competing in any sport, they use drugs because of their ego, and that is ridiculous thing to do. It isn't envy, it's just too stupid thing to understand with normal brains, so they are just amazed by that stupidity. Just think what happen when these steroid users stop their cycle. In weeks they lost all the muscles they ever have, and they are just like any other twat you see walking around. It is all in their heads, nothing more. These guys should understand that no one can see what they think they are inside their heads. All we other see is moron training like an ape and cheating himself by using steroids to think that he is somewhat special. Well, he really is, he is stupider than most of others ;D
drug user or natty, if you stop training you lose it all anyway.
If you use drugs for ten years and then stop, after 6 months you will be in the same position as you would have been if you trained natty for 10 years.
Its all relative.
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drug user or natty, if you stop training you lose it all anyway.
If you use drugs for ten years and then stop, after 6 months you will be in the same position as you would have been if you trained natty for 10 years.
Its all relative.
Yes but you'll have the memories that last a lifetime as well as the kidney damage.
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Well, any given fool can use drugs to make muscles, and this has been proved by Genova, Rich Piana etc. drooling morons. Any fool can grow muscles using drugs, but why you should do it? 90% of users of anabolics doesn't even dream about competing in any sport, they use drugs because of their ego, and that is ridiculous thing to do. It isn't envy, it's just too stupid thing to understand with normal brains, so they are just amazed by that stupidity. Just think what happen when these steroid users stop their cycle. In weeks they lost all the muscles they ever have, and they are just like any other twat you see walking around. It is all in their heads, nothing more. These guys should understand that no one can see what they think they are inside their heads. All we other see is moron training like an ape and cheating himself by using steroids to think that he is somewhat special. Well, he really is, he is stupider than most of others ;D
Clearly no envy here ::)
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Yes but you'll have the memories that last a lifetime as well as the kidney damage.
Or you can drink socially and get far more kidney and liver damage.
A bottle of wine a night with a meal will fuck you up long term
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Clearly no envy here ::)
how is he envious ? he is just laughing at bloated juicers
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how is he envious ? he is just laughing at bloated juicers
You know nothing of human behaviour, the laughing is his own insecurities.
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You know nothing of human behaviour, the laughing is his own insecurities.
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I used roids when i was 20 , it was fun , but looking back on it now ( few years later ) its actually embarrassing lol, I cared so much about how my body looked that i injected my self with steroids and got pimples on my shoulders and it made my skin bad. Good ole me walking around the gym all pumped up, the funny looks ? yea haters ! man they're just haters !
Now-a-days i just look at the guys at my gym who juice up as losers who are overcompensating for something ( insert uberman copy pasta here ) and just cringe as i see the side effects develop and as they shrink and stop going to the gym. What was the point of that ? To look worse than before , be an emotional mess and have all the side effects remain for months/permanently ?
These days im cleaned up as i learned a thing or two. Here is what i have learned. Good skin + tan + solid leanish natty physique is what its about (and yea 4-5 clean meals a day isnt hard at all). I train 6 days a week natty + cardio and put my main focus on other aspects of my life. Where as when i was younger i would always think about which "sick" cycle to run that would get me the "body" and try and learn new training routines to "get some growth happening"
It's all horse shit. Steroids should only be used if your life will ACTUALLY benefit from them ( the genetically elite athletes and fitness models ) .. that means performing well and looking good and having the genetics to not get the shitty side effects that 90% of juicers get and then lose gains .
I mean i admit mike o hearn is a very muscular man, but holy shit , i doubt he has actually achieved as much as he could in life if he put his roiding efforts into education, work and developing an actual business. You know what i mean ? and yea, that sort of makes him a loser in my eyes. Even though he looks better than alot of guys his age , he is actually a loser compared to the dude who stays in shape , but is a doctor, and no one in the real world actually respects him, or cares about the muscles. Because people in the real world respect 10 years of education that is actually applicable in helping people than some guy who increased the amount of amino acids and size of mitochondria in his muscle cells. Yea ?
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Reg park taught Arnold all about steroids.
Now, are you going to post a pic of just fuck off to your secluded cove , the only place you feel comfortable taking your shirt off?
The most important question needing answered in this thread is: Is it Reg as in Keg or Reg as in Ledge?
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I used roids when i was 20 , it was fun , but looking back on it now ( few years later ) its actually embarrassing lol, I cared so much about how my body looked that i injected my self with steroids and got pimples on my shoulders and it made my skin bad. Good ole me walking around the gym all pumped up, the funny looks ? yea haters ! man they're just haters !
Now-a-days i just look at the guys at my gym who juice up as losers who are overcompensating for something ( insert uberman copy pasta here ) and just cringe as i see the side effects develop and as they shrink and stop going to the gym. What was the point of that ? To look worse than before , be an emotional mess and have all the side effects remain for months/permanently ?
These days im cleaned up as i learned a thing or two. Here is what i have learned. Good skin + tan + solid leanish natty physique is what its about (and yea 4-5 clean meals a day isnt hard at all). I train 6 days a week natty + cardio and put my main focus on other aspects of my life. Where as when i was younger i would always think about which "sick" cycle to run that would get me the "body" and try and learn new training routines to "get some growth happening"
It's all horse shit. Steroids should only be used if your life will ACTUALLY benefit from them ( the genetically elite athletes and fitness models ) .. that means performing well and looking good and having the genetics to not get the shitty side effects that 90% of juicers get and then lose gains .
I mean i admit mike o hearn is a very muscular man, but holy shit , i doubt he has actually achieved as much as he could in life if he put his roiding efforts into education, work and developing an actual business. You know what i mean ? and yea, that sort of makes him a loser in my eyes. Even though he looks better than alot of guys his age , he is actually a loser compared to the dude who stays in shape , but is a doctor, and no one in the real world actually respects him, or cares about the muscles. Because people in the real world respect 10 years of education that is actually applicable in helping people than some guy who increased the amount of amino acids and size of mitochondria in his muscle cells. Yea ?
So in a nutshell you were a fuckwit who abused steroids now you have grown up you think abusing drugs isnt a good idea, guess what, I think abusing drugs is dumb as well, only I knew that when I was 20.
I dont even look like a bodybuilder with my clothes on, I just look lean and athletic, no walking around lats flared out giving it the big I am.
I look good year round, Im always in shape.
I have a good job, a life, I have no friends who are bodybuilders, I dont hang around that lifestyle.
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What is your point ? Yea, I done steroids when i was 20 , and realized its a douche bag thing to do, I admitted my mistake. But I was 20, so it's kinda "ok" to do stupid shit like steroids to "get big" .. you know ? How do you think the general population thinks/feels when they see 25+ year olds jooocin' their way to "get attention" ... yea that was my point.
Ps: any use of steroids outside of what a doc/endo directs is abuse.
PPs: i wasn't aiming my comments at you, but at your argument of him being "envious" of some guy who chose to stick syringes in his muscle and fill a spot of with drugs that are suspended in oil.
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What is your point ? Yea, I done steroids when i was 20 , and realized its a douche bag thing to do, I admitted my mistake. But I was 20, so it's kinda "ok" to do stupid shit like steroids to "get big" .. you know ? How do you think the general population thinks/feels when they see 25+ year olds jooocin' their way to "get attention" ... yea that was my point.
Ps: any use of steroids outside of what a doc/endo directs is abuse.
PPs: i wasn't aiming my comments at you, but at your argument of him being "envious" of some guy who chose to stick syringes in his muscle and fill a spot of with drugs that are suspended in oil.
is that a legal standpoint or a moral one?
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is that a legal standpoint or a moral one?
is 12 weeks of test abuse ?
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is 12 weeks of test abuse ?
People normally respond to questions with an answer, not another question.
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is that a legal standpoint or a moral one?
One doctors prescription another doc sees as illegitimate and harmful ie abuse. There is no "one view" in the medical community either when it comes to even HRT.
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People normally respond to questions with an answer, not another question.
responding to a question with a question is a good way to help a person develop an understanding of a topic.
Ps: you brought the whole "abuse" topic up
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One doctors prescription another doc sees as illegitimate and harmful ie abuse. There is no "one view" in the medical community either when it comes to even HRT.
If you haven't learned by now that doctors are no more correct or wise than anyone else you haven't been paying attention. The whole opioids epidemic is their fault.
Look at Viagra, purely recreational, but legal. No moral difference between that and taking roids.
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responding to a question with a question is a good way to help a person develop an understanding of a topic.
Ps: you brought the whole "abuse" topic up
Not when the question really doesnt have any relevance to the thread or topic.
And yes, I introduced the word "abuse" because getting a spotty back full of pimples indicates you took too much for your body to handle, hence the term abuse.
Just because you couldnt use steroids sensibly and attain a nice physique you are bitter and envious of those who do.
Now, hows that for back on topic?
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Not when the question really doesnt have any relevance to the thread or topic.
And yes, I introduced the word "abuse" because getting a spotty back full of pimples indicates you took too much for your body to handle, hence the term abuse.
Just because you couldnt use steroids sensibly and attain a nice physique you are bitter and envious of those who do.
Now, hows that for back on topic?
you sort of ignored the part where i said its fine if you got good genetics ( ie: dont get pimples) .. most people get pimples or the skin looks "different" to before steroids, i cant explain it. I got some shoulder pimples, but mine wasnt bad. But when you actually compare it to clean tanned skin, its inferior.
Cmon man, are you honestly going to say that the majority pf people get no side effects of steroids ? i know some people dont, but lets be real here m8 , even standard 400-500 mg of test for 3 months with aromasin will give you SOME sides. ( and are you going to say that is too much ? )
Just like some girls can look sexy with the help of steroids , most will get sides with any dose that gets you muscular gains.
also im not sure where you got that i have envious and bitter, you are putting words in my mouth
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you sort of ignored the part where i said its fine if you got good genetics ( ie: dont get pimples) .. most people get pimples or the skin looks "different" to before steroids, i cant explain it. I got some shoulder pimples, but mine wasnt bad. But when you actually compare it to clean tanned skin, its inferior.
Cmon man, are you honestly going to say that the majority pf people get no side effects of steroids ? i know some people dont, but lets be real here m8 , even standard 400-500 mg of test for 3 months with aromasin will give you SOME sides. ( and are you going to say that is too much ? )
Just like some girls can look sexy with the help of steroids , most will get sides with any dose that gets you muscular gains.
here is my skin at 51 years old, lets see your lovely skin.
(https://s32.postimg.org/moxp4mgo5/clean_tanned_skin.png)(https://s31.postimg.org/zfsxxooej/tanned_skin.png)
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here is my skin at 51 years old, lets see your lovely skin.
(https://s32.postimg.org/moxp4mgo5/clean_tanned_skin.png)
Why did you take my comments so personally that you felt the need to show me photos of your muscles ?
also are you on steroids ? on HRT ? i dont know ? what is your actual point ?
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Why did you take my comments so personally that you felt the need to show me photos of your muscles ?
I felt the need to prove my point that you are talking shite, now, where are you pics of your lovely skin that you have managed to maintain while being natty.
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There is no way to do roids at any dose with zero risk. Therefore the term "abuse" really is only a matter of opinion.
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I felt the need to prove my point that you are talking shite, now, where are you pics of your lovely skin that you have managed to maintain while being natty.
so because you didnt get acne from steroids that nullifies my argument that most people do ( from observations in the gym )
like , good on you pal, you're 51 and ripped ( according to the shirtless photos you sent to a 22 year old dude )
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There is no way to do roids at any dose with zero risk. Therefore the term "abuse" really is only a matter of opinion.
There is no way to eat eggs in any amount with ZERO risk,
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so because you didnt get acne from steroids that nullifies my argument that most people do ( from observations in the gym )
like , good on you pal, you're 51 and ripped ( according to the shirtless photos you sent to a 22 year old dude )
I didnt send anything to you, I posted it online.
Anyone who uses steroids sensibly doesnt get acne.
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I didnt send anything to you, I posted it online.
Anyone who uses steroids sensibly doesnt get acne.
you posted it online as some sort of closet homo "challenge", but that is besides the point.
Just because jay cutler hasnt got a single pimmple on his body and has a full head of hair and is (seemingly healthy) , this does not mean that 90% of guys who use gear will get the same experience, get what i mean ? or is that logic too hard for you to grasp ?
Just like most people who smoke meth will destroy their lives, doesnt mean that one in 1000 won't become a millionare from the superb stimulation.
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So in a nutshell you were a fuckwit who abused steroids now you have grown up you think abusing drugs isnt a good idea, guess what, I think abusing drugs is dumb as well, only I knew that when I was 20.
I dont even look like a bodybuilder with my clothes on, I just look lean and athletic, no walking around lats flared out giving it the big I am.
I look good year round, Im always in shape.
I have a good job, a life, I have no friends who are bodybuilders, I dont hang around that lifestyle.
I respect exactly what you just said in this second paragraph, was kind of the main point I wanted to make but failed to in my previous rant
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I used roids when i was 20 , it was fun , but looking back on it now ( few years later ) its actually embarrassing lol, I cared so much about how my body looked that i injected my self with steroids and got pimples on my shoulders and it made my skin bad. Good ole me walking around the gym all pumped up, the funny looks ? yea haters ! man they're just haters !
Now-a-days i just look at the guys at my gym who juice up as losers who are overcompensating for something ( insert uberman copy pasta here ) and just cringe as i see the side effects develop and as they shrink and stop going to the gym. What was the point of that ? To look worse than before , be an emotional mess and have all the side effects remain for months/permanently ?
These days im cleaned up as i learned a thing or two. Here is what i have learned. Good skin + tan + solid leanish natty physique is what its about (and yea 4-5 clean meals a day isnt hard at all). I train 6 days a week natty + cardio and put my main focus on other aspects of my life. Where as when i was younger i would always think about which "sick" cycle to run that would get me the "body" and try and learn new training routines to "get some growth happening"
It's all horse shit. Steroids should only be used if your life will ACTUALLY benefit from them ( the genetically elite athletes and fitness models ) .. that means performing well and looking good and having the genetics to not get the shitty side effects that 90% of juicers get and then lose gains .
I mean i admit mike o hearn is a very muscular man, but holy shit , i doubt he has actually achieved as much as he could in life if he put his roiding efforts into education, work and developing an actual business. You know what i mean ? and yea, that sort of makes him a loser in my eyes. Even though he looks better than alot of guys his age , he is actually a loser compared to the dude who stays in shape , but is a doctor, and no one in the real world actually respects him, or cares about the muscles. Because people in the real world respect 10 years of education that is actually applicable in helping people than some guy who increased the amount of amino acids and size of mitochondria in his muscle cells. Yea ?
Based on this post I have concluded that using steroids to look better does not fix insecurities. I would of swore a woman wrote this post if it didnt include you personal story lmao
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There is no way to eat eggs in any amount with ZERO risk,
Sure but try to get a concensus among juicers on abuse. One dude on HRT may say if you do 100mg test and don't keep tabs on your hematocrit every few weeks you are taking huge risks. Another, such as yourself, might say 250mg of test and 100mg of tren is fine without constant health check-ups as long as you feel good and the skin is clear etc. A third fella has been on up to 500mg of test PER DAY for 3 decades and thinks steroids are practically health tonics. As Milos says, steroids build you up, they don't tear you down, lol.
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Based on this post I have concluded that using steroids to look better does not fix insecurities. I would of swore a woman wrote this post if it didnt include you personal story lmao
how so ? Honestly , im curious ? if anything i went from taking extremes to increase muscle mass/appearance to focusing on developing career and other aspects of my existence, that's the opposite of feminine behavior IMHO.
I mean it's fair enough if you can balance education, socialization and career with steroid use, but man, most people can't from experience and observations.
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I'll take my lifetime natty physique, full head of hair, massive sex drive and optimum health past middle age, thanks.
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I used roids when i was 20 , it was fun , but looking back on it now ( few years later ) its actually embarrassing lol, I cared so much about how my body looked that i injected my self with steroids and got pimples on my shoulders and it made my skin bad. Good ole me walking around the gym all pumped up, the funny looks ? yea haters ! man they're just haters !
Now-a-days i just look at the guys at my gym who juice up as losers who are overcompensating for something ( insert uberman copy pasta here ) and just cringe as i see the side effects develop and as they shrink and stop going to the gym. What was the point of that ? To look worse than before , be an emotional mess and have all the side effects remain for months/permanently ?
These days im cleaned up as i learned a thing or two. Here is what i have learned. Good skin + tan + solid leanish natty physique is what its about (and yea 4-5 clean meals a day isnt hard at all). I train 6 days a week natty + cardio and put my main focus on other aspects of my life. Where as when i was younger i would always think about which "sick" cycle to run that would get me the "body" and try and learn new training routines to "get some growth happening"
It's all horse shit. Steroids should only be used if your life will ACTUALLY benefit from them ( the genetically elite athletes and fitness models ) .. that means performing well and looking good and having the genetics to not get the shitty side effects that 90% of juicers get and then lose gains .
I mean i admit mike o hearn is a very muscular man, but holy shit , i doubt he has actually achieved as much as he could in life if he put his roiding efforts into education, work and developing an actual business. You know what i mean ? and yea, that sort of makes him a loser in my eyes. Even though he looks better than alot of guys his age , he is actually a loser compared to the dude who stays in shape , but is a doctor, and no one in the real world actually respects him, or cares about the muscles. Because people in the real world respect 10 years of education that is actually applicable in helping people than some guy who increased the amount of amino acids and size of mitochondria in his muscle cells. Yea ?
so because you didnt get acne from steroids that nullifies my argument that most people do ( from observations in the gym )
like , good on you pal, you're 51 and ripped ( according to the shirtless photos you sent to a 22 year old dude )
and a few years later you are 22 and a whole lot wiser
Flintstones, is that you?
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I'll take my lifetime natty physique, full head of hair, massive sex drive and optimum health past middle age, thanks.
seriously mate, that hairstyle isnt doing you any favours.
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lol not him
dude you can keep going on with your insults and shit but i have said what i have said.
Honestly in my opinion if you look good you look good, but taking steroids just to look good is kind of extreme man, but its up to you . Im not jealous of you or any other roider, i simply explained how the general public views it. Steroids are fun, but once you're off of them, you wont look as "cool" unless you just stay on all the time ( again , extremes )
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seriously mate, that hairstyle isnt doing you any favours.
Seriously dude, I'm in a relationship but almost every woman around is attracted to me. I'm like a celebrity walking down the street. You have no idea. Women love long hair. They absolutely love it.
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Seriously dude, I'm in a relationship but almost every woman around is attracted to me. I'm like a celebrity walking down the street. You have no idea. Women love long hair. They absolutely love it.
(http://www.fabioifc.com/Bookcover_plus/mousepad_shot_fabio.2.jpg)
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I'll take my lifetime natty physique, full head of hair, massive sex drive and optimum health past middle age, thanks.
Good physique but that hair is fucking disgusting man
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(http://www.fabioifc.com/Bookcover_plus/mousepad_shot_fabio.2.jpg)
Pretty close man. It's like being a walking cover of a romance novel. I don't think I've asked out a single woman in my life. Being a musician helps too, but I'm only on stage a small percentage of the time. Slept with hundreds of hot women in my time. Professionally it doesn't matter as I'm self employed and do as I please.
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Good physique but that hair is fucking disgusting man
(http://www.riceandbreadmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Carcass03.jpg)
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Pretty close man. It's like being a walking cover of a romance novel. I don't think I've asked out a single woman in my life. Being a musician helps too, but I'm only on stage a small percentage of the time. Professionally it doesn't matter as I'm self employed and do as I please.
Fucking hell mate, the guys here love people like you.
I posted that picture because hes seen as a joke, a parody, if you dont realise that then you are in the same place as him.
I dont know how you have gotten through life without asking a woman out, have you never met a woman who has had enough self worth to wait until you ask her out?
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Fucking hell mate, the guys here love people like you.
I posted that picture because hes seen as a joke, a parody, if you dont realise that then you are in the same place as him.
I dont know how you have gotten through life without asking a woman out, have you never met a woman who has had enough self worth to wait until you ask her out?
No point asking women out. I have my pick. I turn away more women than most men get in their lifetime.
Men like short hair on men.
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(http://www.riceandbreadmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Carcass03.jpg)
I hope you are not one of the guys in that picture, my Mrs just burst out laughing when I showed her it.
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I hope you are not one of the guys in that picture, my Mrs just burst out laughing when I showed her it.
Different lives man if don't know who this band is. I play guitar in a metal band, but not Carcass.
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how so ? Honestly , im curious ? if anything i went from taking extremes to increase muscle mass/appearance to focusing on developing career and other aspects of my existence, that's the opposite of feminine behavior IMHO.
I mean it's fair enough if you can balance education, socialization and career with steroid use, but man, most people can't from experience and observations.
Women usually bash superior looking women calling them losers/hos/insecure bitches/overcompesating for shitty personality/etc.
Just too much generalization imo. I just started using again at 24 after taking 4 years off. Juiced from 18-20 nonstop. Started for the wrong reasons just like you. But after getting settled down and getting a good job,buying a house,etc I came full circle and realized I really enjoyed lifting and im back on gear,not to compensate but to enhance the experience.
I was happy and confident at 5'9 150 lbs off gear and im just as happy 40 lbs heavier and back on lol. Nothing to do with overcompensating or being a loser. Sounds like you are projecting tbh
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No point asking women out. I have my pick. I turn away more women than most men get in their lifetime.
Men like short hair on men.
I imagine most of them dont bathe and are generally unkempt, if they mix in the thrash metal circuit.
(http://cdnstatic.visualizeus.com/thumbs/84/97/boots,fashion,girls,grunge,legs,rock-8497ac05ab5dcb6d61d53932941319d7_h.jpg)
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I imagine most of them dont bathe and are generally unkempt, if they mix in the thrash metal circuit.
(http://cdnstatic.visualizeus.com/thumbs/84/97/boots,fashion,girls,grunge,legs,rock-8497ac05ab5dcb6d61d53932941319d7_h.jpg)
Mostly stuff like GnR etc. The heavy original stuff came after settling down with one woman.
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Different lives man if don't know who this band is. I play guitar in a metal band, but not Carcass.
So why post the pic?
They look like girls from the 60s
(http://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2014/08/08/18/Manson-2.jpg)
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Mostly stuff like GnR etc. The heavy original stuff came after settling down with one woman.
Put the bong away mate, I have no idea what you are talking about.
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So why post the pic?
They look like girls from the 60s
(http://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2014/08/08/18/Manson-2.jpg)
No, they look like modern metal musicians.
Are you over 60? You sound like my dad's dad.
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Seriously dude, I'm in a relationship but almost every woman around is attracted to me. I'm like a celebrity walking down the street. You have no idea. Women love long hair. They absolutely love it.
No, seriously, they don't.
The only women who may like your hair are rock or metal women. Most other women do not like long hair.
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Fucking hell mate, the guys here love people like you.
I posted that picture because hes seen as a joke, a parody, if you dont realise that then you are in the same place as him.
I dont know how you have gotten through life without asking a woman out, have you never met a woman who has had enough self worth to wait until you ask her out?
Another gebig legend in his own mind. :D :D They make up about 99% of getbig. :D :D
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No, seriously, they don't.
The only women who may like your hair are rock or metal women. Most other women do not like long hair.
Wrong man. Grow your hair, if you can, and you'll see. Anyone that knows me irl knows it too. I'm done debating the pros and cons of hair farming with you old codgers. Especially considering this thread has been derailed as fuck. Gear = bad. Natty = good. But, to each his own. Work becons gents.
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Another gebig legend in his own mind. :D :D They make up about 99% of getbig. :D :D
You have to give it to him though, he is a great troll and causes many meltdowns and multi paragraph posts
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You have to give it to him though, he is a great troll and causes many meltdowns and multi paragraph posts
shhhh
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You have to give it to him though, he is a great troll and causes many meltdowns and multi paragraph posts
I suspect he has a big nose and lives in his moms attic.
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Wrong man. Grow your hair, if you can, and you'll see. Anyone that knows me irl knows it too.
No, the modern day women would rarely ever be seen with a guy with long hair (unless they are a rock or metal women).
They like this look (see pic below). Stop deluding yourself. 99% of women would choose the guy below over your long, "flowing" hair.
(http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index.php?src=http%3A%2F%2F27.media.tumblr.com%2Ftumblr_lvp7pfJqlA1r4q6tro1_400.jpg&size=400x1000)
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I suspect he has a big nose and lives in his moms attic.
I misread sf's post lol long ass work night last night.
I actually was talking about you causing many meltdowns/novelesque posts
Idk who this other guy is
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Up Until The End Of May I've Always Had Long Hair, But Just On The Spur Of The Moment I Decided To Shave My Head For The Summer. Never Did That Before.
No Real Difference In Girlie Action Though. It Depends On The Guy I Guess.
And, I Too Have Never Asked A Woman Out For A Date. They Just Always Seemed To Be Around Me, So It Wasn't Necessary. Again, It Depends On The Guy.
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Up Until The End Of May I've Always Had Long Hair, But Just On The Spur Of The Moment I Decided To Shave My Head For The Summer. Never Did That Before.
No Real Difference In Girlie Action Though. It Depends On The Guy I Guess.
And, I Too Have Never Asked A Woman Out For A Date. They Just Always Seemed To Be Around Me, So It Wasn't Necessary. Again, It Depends On The Guy.
I bet the "girlies" just flock around you for your verbose descriptions of scientific studies on nutrition.
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I bet the "girlies" just flock around you for your verbose descriptions of scientific studies on nutrition.
Intellect Is Sexual Attractive, Too. Of Course You Wouldn't Know About That.
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Intellect Is Sexual Attractive, Too. Of Course You Wouldn't Know About That.
Intellectual people grasp the fact that not every word in a sentence starts with a capital letter.
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Intellectual people grasp the fact that not every word in a sentence starts with a capital letter.
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Intellectual people grasp the fact that not every word in a sentence starts with a capital letter.
No. Nervous, Conformist, Anal Retentive, Little Minds, Chafe At Anything That Changes In Their Little World.
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No. Nervous, Conformist, Anal Retentive, Little Minds, Chafe At Anything That Changes In Their Little World.
Desperate Attention Seeking Narcissistic Weakminded Pussy will Do Anything To Try And Make Him Feel Adequate
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Desperate Attention Seeking Narcissistic Weakminded Pussy will Do Anything To Try And Make Him Feel Adequate
And, You Do That Too! Your Confession Is A Good Sign.
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And, You Do That Too! Your Confession Is A Good Sign.
amazingly you only started posting this way on the 7th July this year, up until then from October 2014 you post like a normal human being, why is that?
Fortunately No One Of Any Value To Humanity Died.
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amazingly you only started posting this way on the 7th July this year, up until then from October 2014 you post like a normal human being, why is that?
Because I Just Felt Like Doing It.
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Because I Just Felt Like Doing It.
In 3 minutes from your previous post?
You sounded dumb enough before the change, now you look dumb as well.
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In 3 minutes from your previous post?
You sounded dumb enough before the change, now you look dumb as well.
3 Minutes? Oh, You Can't Tell Time Either! I Should Have Known.
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Up Until The End Of May I've Always Had Long Hair, But Just On The Spur Of The Moment I Decided To Shave My Head For The Summer. Never Did That Before.
No Real Difference In Girlie Action Though. It Depends On The Guy I Guess.
And, I Too Have Never Asked A Woman Out For A Date. They Just Always Seemed To Be Around Me, So It Wasn't Necessary. Again, It Depends On The Guy.
Exactly.
I'd already had my appt booked so it was somewhat ironic that everyone chimed in about my hair today in a thread about gear/natty...but it's gone. Mostly due to the fact it was a pain in the ass.
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amazingly you only started posting this way on the 7th July this year, up until then from October 2014 you post like a normal human being, why is that?
Because He josh r.
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Exactly.
I'd already had my appt booked so it was somewhat ironic that everyone chimed in about my hair today in a thread about gear/natty...but it's gone. Mostly due to the fact it was a pain in the ass.
and so has your physique by the look of that picture.
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Women usually bash superior looking women calling them losers/hos/insecure bitches/overcompesating for shitty personality/etc.
Just too much generalization imo. I just started using again at 24 after taking 4 years off. Juiced from 18-20 nonstop. Started for the wrong reasons just like you. But after getting settled down and getting a good job,buying a house,etc I came full circle and realized I really enjoyed lifting and im back on gear,not to compensate but to enhance the experience.
I was happy and confident at 5'9 150 lbs off gear and im just as happy 40 lbs heavier and back on lol. Nothing to do with overcompensating or being a loser. Sounds like you are projecting tbh
see , thats the thing about juicers, 5'9 and 190 lbs of stocky muscle thinking every one is "jealous" of him, because ppl dnt approve of their drug use.
you can't understand why its looked down upon and thats fine , but a major part is because you gotta stick needles in your self to maintain those 190 lbs, because without them you are 140 lbs, and ppl know that.
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and so has your physique by the look of that picture.
What physique? I'm natty, remember?
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I don't do steroids for a variety of reasons, but the main reason I do not do them is the legal ramifications associated with getting caught. If I got caught and charged with possession of steroids (or any drug), my whole career would be down the crapper. It would be stupid of me to risk a lot for an extra 2" on my arms.
That's always been my issue with juicing.
I think it should be legal for personal use, but it's not, so I'm not risking it.
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maybe
maybe not
I used roids when i was 20 , it was fun , but looking back on it now ( few years later ) its actually embarrassing lol, I cared so much about how my body looked that i injected my self with steroids and got pimples on my shoulders and it made my skin bad. Good ole me walking around the gym all pumped up, the funny looks ? yea haters ! man they're just haters !
Now-a-days i just look at the guys at my gym who juice up as losers who are overcompensating for something ( insert uberman copy pasta here ) and just cringe as i see the side effects develop and as they shrink and stop going to the gym. What was the point of that ? To look worse than before , be an emotional mess and have all the side effects remain for months/permanently ?
These days im cleaned up as i learned a thing or two. Here is what i have learned. Good skin + tan + solid leanish natty physique is what its about (and yea 4-5 clean meals a day isnt hard at all). I train 6 days a week natty + cardio and put my main focus on other aspects of my life. Where as when i was younger i would always think about which "sick" cycle to run that would get me the "body" and try and learn new training routines to "get some growth happening"
It's all horse shit. Steroids should only be used if your life will ACTUALLY benefit from them ( the genetically elite athletes and fitness models ) .. that means performing well and looking good and having the genetics to not get the shitty side effects that 90% of juicers get and then lose gains .
I mean i admit mike o hearn is a very muscular man, but holy shit , i doubt he has actually achieved as much as he could in life if he put his roiding efforts into education, work and developing an actual business. You know what i mean ? and yea, that sort of makes him a loser in my eyes. Even though he looks better than alot of guys his age , he is actually a loser compared to the dude who stays in shape , but is a doctor, and no one in the real world actually respects him, or cares about the muscles. Because people in the real world respect 10 years of education that is actually applicable in helping people than some guy who increased the amount of amino acids and size of mitochondria in his muscle cells. Yea ?
mike has been making a good living doing what he loves for 20 years or so, i'm sure plenty of people are impressed by him, if he's a loser what the hell is the majority of people doing something they don't like to make mediocre money?
but if you would rather work 80 hours a week and dealing with the stress of being a doctor or business man to impress others good for you
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moderate aas/hgh use is beneficial for every hardcore trainer out there. Especially after 30.
Its improves your life actually if you do it intelligently and you have healthy body: little hgh/test/primo/var.
I have trained naturally till i was 23 and was living like a monk and not getting the gains that my friends on aas were getting. I will not lie I was jealoux at that time cause it was far from fair.
Pharma hormones are the future people, don't be pussies.