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Title: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: NickEdge779 on July 18, 2016, 07:12:55 PM
Absolutely reaming the media
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Post by: jude2 on July 18, 2016, 07:15:04 PM
Agreed.  I just posted that in the other thread.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: 240 is Back on July 18, 2016, 11:12:35 PM
trumps' wife had a great speech too.

Whoever wrote it was a brilliant person. 
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Post by: polychronopolous on July 18, 2016, 11:18:37 PM
Fantastic speech by Rudy.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: 240 is Back on July 18, 2016, 11:22:27 PM
here's the problem with attacking the media... 

media is entertainment.  Political news is entertainment for conservatives and liberals.   None of the networks are "unbiased" - they all have a slant because that = ratings.

Nobody gets butthurt because BET plays more Eminem than Common.   They play what people are talking about.   Media is the same way.  They have no obligation to anyone. 
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: 240 is Back on July 18, 2016, 11:58:42 PM
Lies & Incompetence. 

She said she wrote the speech.  Obviously not true.
They allowed her important words to the word to be unchecked.  A simple plagarism checking website would have caught it.  ANyone with any experience in politics recognized obama's speech.  People were tweeting/posting LIVE during the speech that it was familiar to michelle obama's speech. 

She lied about writing it, and the level fo incompetence from Team Trump means Rudy's great speech is buried by this dumb shit move. 



Just wait til he's president and the stakes are higher.  He's either tanking on purpose, or he's more incompetent than Dubya Bush on his drunkest day.  I don't know which is more scary :(
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: polychronopolous on July 19, 2016, 12:23:11 AM
Lies & Incompetence. 

She said she wrote the speech.  Obviously not true.
They allowed her important words to the word to be unchecked.  A simple plagarism checking website would have caught it.  ANyone with any experience in politics recognized obama's speech.  People were tweeting/posting LIVE during the speech that it was familiar to michelle obama's speech. 

She lied about writing it, and the level fo incompetence from Team Trump means Rudy's great speech is buried by this dumb shit move. 



Just wait til he's president and the stakes are higher.  He's either tanking on purpose, or he's more incompetent than Dubya Bush on his drunkest day.  I don't know which is more scary :(

Look for Eric Trump and Donald Jr. to make a big impact in their speeches when this event kicks off Tuesday night as well.

These kids have been born and bred for this type of stage and they will likely step up with flying colors.

Energizing the base. Bringing more of the previous NeverTrumper's into the fold. Solidifying and expanding an already significant lead among independents.

You see, 240...only message board political junkies like yourself care some meaningless speech similarities. And even the number of people like you are so small that it really is not even worth discussing when in comparison with all the truly news worthy stuff and interesting stuff going on with the RNC convention.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 19, 2016, 03:23:54 AM
I can remember when Rudy was elected Mayor of NYC and said he would clean up Times Square. Libs said it was impossible. When Rudy promptly did it, Libs then said it was better the way it was before.

That's when I became convinced that Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: Red Hook on July 19, 2016, 03:44:09 AM
I can remember when Rudy was elected Mayor of NYC and said he would clean up Times Square. Libs said it was impossible. When Rudy promptly did it, Libs then said it was better the way it was before.

That's when I became convinced that Liberalism is a mental disorder.

^^ this is a false statement.  Everyone agreed that Rudy cleaned up Time Square but the disagreement was with his perceived intolerance to rights of minorities and his trouncing of civilian rights. No said that Time Square was better before.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: muscleman-2013 on July 19, 2016, 03:45:39 AM
here's the problem with attacking the media... 

media is entertainment.  Political news is entertainment for conservatives and liberals.   None of the networks are "unbiased" - they all have a slant because that = ratings.

Nobody gets butthurt because BET plays more Eminem than Common.   They play what people are talking about.   Media is the same way.  They have no obligation to anyone. 

You rarely have anything to add to a discussion.  And this time was no exception.

Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: _bruce_ on July 19, 2016, 03:46:40 AM
Rudy's secret to mental tenacity...

ballistic Upright Rows in The Bronx at midnight  :D
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 19, 2016, 05:47:56 AM
^^ this is a false statement.  Everyone agreed that Rudy cleaned up Time Square but the disagreement was with his perceived intolerance to rights of minorities and his trouncing of civilian rights. No said that Time Square was better before.

I heard Jimmy Breslin and others say it. They also tried to not give Guiliani credit for cleaning up NYC by saying that crime was already dropping.

I know what NYC was like before Rudy. Even in good neighborhoods, you couldn't walk down the street without being confronted by aggressive panhandlers, and every car parked in the street had a window broken and the car stereo stolen.

Under Diblasio it's happening again.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SF1900 on July 19, 2016, 06:08:10 AM
I heard Jimmy Breslin and others say it. They also tried to not give Guiliani credit for cleaning up NYC by saying that crime was already dropping.

I know what NYC was like before Rudy. Even in good neighborhoods, you couldn't walk down the street without being confronted by aggressive panhandlers, and every car parked in the street had a window broken and the car stereo stolen.

Under Diblasio it's happening again.


Stop exaggerating. I've lived in NYC my whole life and it was not as bad as you're making it seem. Not even close. Maybe in very isolated areas in NYC. But the norm? Not even close.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 19, 2016, 06:57:15 AM

Stop exaggerating. I've lived in NYC my whole life and it was not as bad as you're making it seem. Not even close. Maybe in very isolated areas in NYC. But the norm? Not even close.

How old are you?

(http://img.qz.com/2013/12/ny-murder-rates-per-capita.png?w=640)
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: mazrim on July 19, 2016, 07:05:50 AM
Lies & Incompetence. 

She said she wrote the speech.  Obviously not true.
They allowed her important words to the word to be unchecked.  A simple plagarism checking website would have caught it.  ANyone with any experience in politics recognized obama's speech.  People were tweeting/posting LIVE during the speech that it was familiar to michelle obama's speech. 

She lied about writing it, and the level fo incompetence from Team Trump means Rudy's great speech is buried by this dumb shit move. 



Just wait til he's president and the stakes are higher.  He's either tanking on purpose, or he's more incompetent than Dubya Bush on his drunkest day.  I don't know which is more scary :(
So you admit you know nothing since you said it was a great speech....

Lines in question were generic/cliche/said quite often in many speeches. Nobody cared/s except for liberal media trying to do whatever they can to bring the republican candidate down.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SquidVicious on July 19, 2016, 07:08:37 AM
So the speeches had a few of the same phrases. Show me a graduation speech that doesn't have several of the same phrases as others. Like they say, if you put 1000 monkeys in a room with 1000 typewriters, eventually one of them will write Hamlet. It's just a matter of probability. Either that or Michelle Obama is illegally using the White House Time Machine for personal gain.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SF1900 on July 19, 2016, 07:12:29 AM
How old are you?

(http://img.qz.com/2013/12/ny-murder-rates-per-capita.png?w=640)

Now you're switching arguments. You initially stated that you could NOT walk down the street without being confronted by aggressive panhandlers, and that EVERY car parked in the street was broken into. This is just not the case.  Growing up, my families car was never broken into and it was always parked in the street. Neighbors as well.

But, now you switched the argument from panhandling and car break-ins to murder.

Stay on topic.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: Red Hook on July 19, 2016, 07:13:08 AM

Stop exaggerating. I've lived in NYC my whole life and it was not as bad as you're making it seem. Not even close. Maybe in very isolated areas in NYC. But the norm? Not even close.


I have no clue where Thin Lizzy is getting that information.   Yes, in the poorer neighbors there is and will always be high crime.  In the affluent areas there was and will always be a concerted effort to keep crime in check.

Again, did Rudy clean up Time Square and the Washington Square Park area, yes.  He did so by getting rid of the panhandlers and homeless people. He did so by kicking then out of those areas.

What Thin Lizzy is doing is called revisionist history.. making the history fit the narrative.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: 240 is Back on July 19, 2016, 07:13:35 AM
Lol at probability.  

It was 2 paragraphs identical except for 6 words she dumbed down.  It we are really calling that a coincidence, lol...  She would be bounced from any 9th grade writing class for that.  

She copied old First Lady speeches.   She changed words and turned it in as her own. I bet we will see Ann Romney and Laura bush similarities when we look closer.  

Lazy.  It's just laziness.  She copped old speeches.  Claiming coincidence is beyond laughable
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 19, 2016, 07:18:46 AM
Now you're switching arguments. You initially stated that you could NOT walk down the street without being confronted by aggressive panhandlers, and that EVERY car parked in the street was broken into. This is just not the case.  Growing up, my families car was never broken into and it was always parked in the street. Neighbors as well.

But, now you switched the argument from panhandling and car break-ins to murder.

Stay on topic.

I'm providing legitimate crime statistics that the two of you can't handle. It wasn't just Murder. Every type of crime was out of control.

(http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs-en-us-city.pdf)
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SF1900 on July 19, 2016, 07:39:27 AM
I'm providing legitimate crime statistics that the two of you can't handle. It wasn't just Murder. Every type of crime was out of control.

(http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/crime_statistics/cs-en-us-city.pdf)

No, you just can't stick to the topic. You said EVERY single parked car was broken into. That is not the case. You said you couldn't walk down the street without being aggressively attacked by panhandlers. That is not the case. Then you switched your argument to homicide. Now, you provide a general statement that crime was just "out of control." You have really bad debating skills.  :-\ :-\ Show me the statistics that EVERY car had a broken window on the street.  ??? ??? If you can't back up your VERY specific claims, then it doesn't mean much. Again, you said EVERY car was broken into that was parked on the street. Show me this evidence.

Was crime higher back then? Yes. But was EVERY car on the street broken into? No. Could you walk down the street without being attacked by panhandlers? Yes. Thus, while crime was higher back then, you're trying to paint a portrait of NYC that is just not holding up to your statistics.

Being "out of control" is not quantifiable. I don't know what that means. And "being out of control" doesn't mean that EVERY single car had a broken window that was parked on the street. And it also doesn't mean that EVERY car was broken into and you couldn't even walk down the street without being aggressively confronted by panhandlers.

Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SF1900 on July 19, 2016, 07:44:51 AM

I have no clue where Thin Lizzy is getting that information.   Yes, in the poorer neighbors there is and will always be high crime.  In the affluent areas there was and will always be a concerted effort to keep crime in check.

Again, did Rudy clean up Time Square and the Washington Square Park area, yes.  He did so by getting rid of the panhandlers and homeless people. He did so by kicking then out of those areas.

What Thin Lizzy is doing is called revisionist history.. making the history fit the narrative.


This.

I lived in Queens my whole life. We never had any of these problems like he is describing. I mean, was it bad at times? Sure. But nothing like he is describing  ??? ??? Has the rate of crime improved? Yes. But that was not his initial premise. In fact, his initial premise was just blind statements, such as, "EVERY car was broken into" and "You couldn't walk down the street without being aggressively confronted by panhandlers." This stuff never happened to me in Queens. Then when pressed on the issue, he talks about homicide.

I am still waiting for evidence that EVERY car window was broken on the streets. I hope Thin Lizzy took a lot of pictures of these so called cars
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: Yamcha on July 19, 2016, 08:37:52 AM
Lol at probability.  

It was 2 paragraphs identical except for 6 words she dumbed down.  It we are really calling that a coincidence, lol...  She would be bounced from any 9th grade writing class for that.  

She copied old First Lady speeches.   She changed words and turned it in as her own. I bet we will see Ann Romney and Laura bush similarities when we look closer.  

Lazy.  It's just laziness.  She copped old speeches.  Claiming coincidence is beyond laughable

She also rick rolled the GOP...



Which leads me to believe that the entire speech was an actual joke.

Once Hillary tries to bring up the Trump's spouse in a debate/etc., it'll be open season on Ol' Billy Boy
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: liberalismo on July 19, 2016, 08:59:52 AM
If you think Rudy is a good orator, you don't know oratory. And I'm not just saying that because I disagree with his politics. Adolf Hitler was one of the greatest speakers of the 20th century, but I admit that even if I disagree with his policies.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: LittleJ on July 19, 2016, 09:07:22 AM
Isn't his daughter a criminal? He talks so much about the black community but has a criminal living at home. What a joke! ::)
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Post by: Nails on July 19, 2016, 09:20:00 AM
spaghetti dick
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Post by: Princess L on July 19, 2016, 09:21:02 AM
Isn't his daughter a criminal? He talks so much about the black community but has a criminal living at home. What a joke! ::)

Shoplifting makeup 6 years ago.  Lock her up and throw away the key.  ::)
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SF1900 on July 19, 2016, 09:58:00 AM
Shoplifting makeup 6 years ago.  Lock her up and throw away the key.  ::)

The difference is that if it was me or you shoplifting, we would have a criminal record (if charges were pressed and convicted). You can rest assured, no charges were pressed against her. The funny thing is that if you or I applied for a job, and a background check was done, we would be considered criminals (well, past criminals). That label would always follow us around for the rest of our lives. Yet, because of who she is, she isn't. But in technical terms, she really is a criminal.....well, a PAST criminal.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: 240 is Back on July 19, 2016, 10:05:37 AM
Rudy gave a speech that motivated the shit out of the base and got them all happy.  Then mrs trump buried that speech with her own. 

The trump campaign defense of it is textbook "how not to do it".  Denying it.  It's like they don't understand the definition of plagiarism. 

Imagine a White House this incompetent. 
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: LittleJ on July 19, 2016, 10:07:43 AM
The difference is that if it was me or you shoplifting, we would have a criminal record (if charges were pressed and convicted). You can rest assured, no charges were pressed against her. The funny thing is that if you or I applied for a job, and a background check was done, we would be considered criminals (well, past criminals). That label would always follow us around for the rest of our lives. Yet, because of who she is, she isn't. But in technical terms, she really is a criminal.....well, a PAST criminal.

Exactly
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: MAXX on July 19, 2016, 10:11:40 AM
Rudy gave a speech that motivated the shit out of the base and got them all happy.  Then mrs trump buried that speech with her own.  

The trump campaign defense of it is textbook "how not to do it".  Denying it.  It's like they don't understand the definition of plagiarism.  

Imagine a White House this incompetent.  
You really use every chance you get to bash Trump. It's all you do on this board nowdays ffs

So much time you spend on Writing long ass posts you should try a forum with more readers. On getbig you have zero impact. Personally I never read your posts, as most here probably dont
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SF1900 on July 19, 2016, 10:37:29 AM
You really use every chance you get to bash Trump. It's all you do on this board nowdays ffs

So much time you spend on Writing long ass posts you should try a forum with more readers. On getbig you have zero impact. Personally I never read your posts, as most here probably dont

How is that any different from everyone else bashing Obama all the time?  ??? ???
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: AD2100 on July 19, 2016, 11:09:13 AM
Yep, Rudy is "killing" the republican party.
The Daffy Duck lisp having WOP.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: MAXX on July 19, 2016, 11:10:55 AM
How is that any different from everyone else bashing Obama all the time?  ??? ???
not in 90% of their postings on the board
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SF1900 on July 19, 2016, 12:44:54 PM
not in 90% of their postings on the board

I would say that certain posters on here have spent just as much time bashing Obama as 240 has spent bashing Trump.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SF1900 on July 19, 2016, 12:46:59 PM
You really use every chance you get to bash Trump. It's all you do on this board nowdays ffs

So much time you spend on Writing long ass posts you should try a forum with more readers. On getbig you have zero impact. Personally I never read your posts, as most here probably dont

On average, 9 times out of 10, I don't read anyone's political posts here, democrat or liberals. Its a gigantic waste of time. Getbig is just one gigantic trolling forum.

And I doubt people's minds get changed in other forums. People are dogmatic no matter where you go.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: 240 is Back on July 19, 2016, 12:50:59 PM
Yep, Rudy is "killing" the republican party.
The Daffy Duck lisp having WOP.


Trump is the one killing the GOP.    Bush Agrees.



Source: Talking Points Memo

Former President George W. Bush confided to his closest ex-aides that he fears Donald Trump's nomination could hasten the downfall of the Republican Party, according to a Politico story out Tuesday.

"I'm worried that I will be the last Republican President," Bush told former aides and advisers at an April reunion in Dallas.

The Bush family has chosen to remain on the sidelines of the GOP nominating contest after former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush left the race. Jeb Bush has said he won't vote for Trump, and neither George W. Bush nor his father, former President George H.W. Bush, are attending this week's convention.

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Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SF1900 on July 19, 2016, 12:53:39 PM

Trump is the one killing the GOP.    Bush Agrees.



Source: Talking Points Memo

Former President George W. Bush confided to his closest ex-aides that he fears Donald Trump's nomination could hasten the downfall of the Republican Party, according to a Politico story out Tuesday.

"I'm worried that I will be the last Republican President," Bush told former aides and advisers at an April reunion in Dallas.

The Bush family has chosen to remain on the sidelines of the GOP nominating contest after former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush left the race. Jeb Bush has said he won't vote for Trump, and neither George W. Bush nor his father, former President George H.W. Bush, are attending this week's convention.

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240, do you still think that Trump is a democratic plant?
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: 240 is Back on July 19, 2016, 12:56:59 PM
240, do you still think that Trump is a democratic plant?

I think this proves it more than ever.

The RNC finally had a chance to grab some serious momentum with the awesome Rudy speech and a perfect Melania speech - a combination of toughness & beauty/brains that inspires so many.

Instead, they stepped in shit with an obvious theft of 2 paragraphs (with a few words dumbed down). 
Instead, they mishandled the plagiarism with blame shifting and silence.

The story has overtaken any good, and there's no way someone as wise and media-shrewd as Trump steps in shit in the most important week of his candidacy. 

It's on purpose.  And if so, we have to ask why.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: polychronopolous on July 19, 2016, 01:03:28 PM
240, do you still think that Trump is a democratic plant?

Yeah because Trump is going to ruin 70 plus years of him and his father's hard work and make his kids look like assholes in order to toss a bone to Hillary Clinton.

Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SF1900 on July 19, 2016, 01:06:32 PM
I think this proves it more than ever.

The RNC finally had a chance to grab some serious momentum with the awesome Rudy speech and a perfect Melania speech - a combination of toughness & beauty/brains that inspires so many.

Instead, they stepped in shit with an obvious theft of 2 paragraphs (with a few words dumbed down). 
Instead, they mishandled the plagiarism with blame shifting and silence.

The story has overtaken any good, and there's no way someone as wise and media-shrewd as Trump steps in shit in the most important week of his candidacy. 

It's on purpose.  And if so, we have to ask why.

240, you make some very valid points. It makes you wonder, out of all the weeks, why blow this week. Such an important week. I think you are somewhat closer to the source than previously thought. Trump being a democratic plant seems more likely as time goes on.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SF1900 on July 19, 2016, 01:08:05 PM
Yeah because Trump is going to ruin 70 plus years of him and his father's hard work and make his kids look like assholes in order to toss a bone to Hillary Clinton.

Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?

Ruin what? Even if he was a democratic plant, what is it going to ruin? He's worth between 4-10 billion dollars.

Plus, Americans have a short memory. If Trump was a democratic plant, they will be pissed for about 9 days, then forget about it, once they go back to their iphones, computers, tablets, and hollywood gossip.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: Nails on July 19, 2016, 01:08:51 PM
4 years in the white house pays what ? $3 million total right  ???

i am sure bill and hilary could cut Trump a check for 3 times that amount, he is a business man first , president running man 2nd
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: 240 is Back on July 19, 2016, 01:09:07 PM
Yeah because Trump is going to ruin 70 plus years of him and his father's hard work and make his kids look like assholes in order to toss a bone to Hillary Clinton.

Makes perfect sense, doesn't it?

Wait a minute - You're completely right.  Trump IS 70 and he's thinking about his legacy.   He supported Hilary for her entire career.  He supported her until Obama beat her in 2008.  

What if his goal, his legacy IS to give hilary 8 years of reign over the country.  If that's the case, he's doing it perfectly.

You just assume the man wants to work 7 days a week, 10 hours a day, reading documents and being stressed - I don't.

Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: bigkid on July 19, 2016, 01:37:36 PM
Ruin what?
AHHH, maybe his brand/image. Guy was known as an arrogant billionaire with a TV show.  Now most of the world and half the country hates him and thinks he's a racist, sexist lunatic. And he can't go anywhere without being protested. All this to get Hillary elected?  Yeah, ok.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SF1900 on July 19, 2016, 03:39:10 PM
AHHH, maybe his brand/image. Guy was known as an arrogant billionaire with a TV show.  Now most of the world and half the country hates him and thinks he's a racist, sexist lunatic. And he can't go anywhere without being protested. All this to get Hillary elected?  Yeah, ok.

What I said before, in case you missed it:

Plus, Americans have a short memory. If Trump was a democratic plant, they will be pissed for about 9 days, then forget about it, once they go back to their iphones, computers, tablets, and hollywood gossip.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: bigkid on July 19, 2016, 04:28:28 PM
What I said before, in case you missed it:

Plus, Americans have a short memory. If Trump was a democratic plant, they will be pissed for about 9 days, then forget about it, once they go back to their iphones, computers, tablets, and hollywood gossip.
It's totally inaccurate in this situation.  This isn't a guy getting caught cheating on his wife or something.  He's been front and center leading a divisive campaign.  Making a lot of bold statements and is on TV 24/7 for the last year plus.  This won't go away in "9 days".
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: WalterWhite on July 19, 2016, 05:02:10 PM
Wait a minute - You're completely right.  Trump IS 70 and he's thinking about his legacy.   He supported Hilary for her entire career.  He supported her until Obama beat her in 2008.  
ain foe
What if his goal, his legacy IS to give hilary 8 years of reign over the country.  If that's the case, he's doing it perfectly.

You just assume the man wants to work 7 days a week, 10 hours a day, reading documents and being stressed - I don't.



There is a ton of ammo to bash the hag but you never spend time on her. ???  This is vexing based on your distain for her.

I think you are a Hillary plant and are likely bashing Trump on many bodybuilding  forums. :D

How much does she pay you?
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: Never1AShow on July 19, 2016, 05:37:13 PM
There is a ton of ammo to bash the hag but you never spend time on her. ???  This is vexing based on your distain for her.

I think you are a Hillary plant and are likely bashing Trump on many bodybuilding  forums. :D

How much does she pay you?

Sadly and foolishly he gets paid nothing.  He'd make more working for a certain poster with many internet streams of income.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: 240 is Back on July 19, 2016, 06:40:12 PM
There is a ton of ammo to bash the hag but you never spend time on her. ???  This is vexing based on your distain for her.

Every time I call Trump a dem plant, I am also reminding everyone her hubby is the one who called Trump and asked him to run ;)

And you can find mean things about her from me leading back to 2002 on getbig ;)   I dislike her greatly, she belongs in prison, etc.   
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: WalterWhite on July 19, 2016, 06:45:22 PM
Every time I call Trump a dem plant, I am also reminding everyone her hubby is the one who called Trump and asked him to run ;)

And you can find mean things about her from me leading back to 2002 on getbig ;)   I dislike her greatly, she belongs in prison, etc.   

Must have been while playing golf. :D

He is not a professional politician and it's no shock he's making mistakes with his ego leading the way. Compared to the hag though he is the patron saint of NYC. 8) 

Christie is slaying it!
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: Palumboism on July 19, 2016, 07:13:24 PM
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: AD2100 on July 19, 2016, 07:26:08 PM
Cross-dressing dego wop!

Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: The Ugly on July 19, 2016, 07:34:33 PM
Cross-dressing dego wop!



Says the disgruntled squeegeeman he exiled in the early 90s.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: Palumboism on July 19, 2016, 07:47:54 PM

Stop exaggerating. I've lived in NYC my whole life and it was not as bad as you're making it seem. Not even close. Maybe in very isolated areas in NYC. But the norm? Not even close.

In the 1970s, the city was on the verge of bankruptcy and a huge amount of city services suffered from disinvestment, which also plagued the subways well into the 1980s. A recession began in 1969 that did not begin to lift until 1977, which negatively impacted many of the city’s industries (trucking had all but destroyed South Street Seaport, the fish markets and the freight railroads). A lot of people felt unsafe, and many folks left, sometimes leaving entire blocks of buildings abandoned.

Midway through the decade, New York State took over most of the city’s finances, and immediately those in charge fired 60,000 municipal employees, cut a quarter of teachers, put an end to free tuition at CUNY and marked a significant policy change whereby the private interests of the city trumped the public ones. This coincided with the aforementioned policy of disinvestment, prompting numerous strikes by the Sanitation Department, who at certain points refused to pick up trash at all, letting it rot on the streets for days, prompting the nickname “stink city.” By the middle of the decade, most of the fires in the city were arson, and there were yearly riots; some building owners paid teenagers to set their buildings on fire so they could collect the insurance money. The most famous riot, the 1977 Blackout, saw looting in 31 neighborhoods and caused over $300 million in damages in less than 25 hours, with more than 3,700 people arrested.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1q81vv/was_new_york_of_the_1970s_the_shithole_movies/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1q81vv/was_new_york_of_the_1970s_the_shithole_movies/)

Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SaintAnger on July 19, 2016, 08:51:12 PM
In the 1970s, the city was on the verge of bankruptcy and a huge amount of city services suffered from disinvestment, which also plagued the subways well into the 1980s. A recession began in 1969 that did not begin to lift until 1977, which negatively impacted many of the city’s industries (trucking had all but destroyed South Street Seaport, the fish markets and the freight railroads). A lot of people felt unsafe, and many folks left, sometimes leaving entire blocks of buildings abandoned.

Midway through the decade, New York State took over most of the city’s finances, and immediately those in charge fired 60,000 municipal employees, cut a quarter of teachers, put an end to free tuition at CUNY and marked a significant policy change whereby the private interests of the city trumped the public ones. This coincided with the aforementioned policy of disinvestment, prompting numerous strikes by the Sanitation Department, who at certain points refused to pick up trash at all, letting it rot on the streets for days, prompting the nickname “stink city.” By the middle of the decade, most of the fires in the city were arson, and there were yearly riots; some building owners paid teenagers to set their buildings on fire so they could collect the insurance money. The most famous riot, the 1977 Blackout, saw looting in 31 neighborhoods and caused over $300 million in damages in less than 25 hours, with more than 3,700 people arrested.

Italian hebrew THUGS, right?  Oh, the irony...

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1q81vv/was_new_york_of_the_1970s_the_shithole_movies/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1q81vv/was_new_york_of_the_1970s_the_shithole_movies/)


Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SF1900 on July 19, 2016, 09:04:23 PM
In the 1970s, the city was on the verge of bankruptcy and a huge amount of city services suffered from disinvestment, which also plagued the subways well into the 1980s. A recession began in 1969 that did not begin to lift until 1977, which negatively impacted many of the city’s industries (trucking had all but destroyed South Street Seaport, the fish markets and the freight railroads). A lot of people felt unsafe, and many folks left, sometimes leaving entire blocks of buildings abandoned.

Midway through the decade, New York State took over most of the city’s finances, and immediately those in charge fired 60,000 municipal employees, cut a quarter of teachers, put an end to free tuition at CUNY and marked a significant policy change whereby the private interests of the city trumped the public ones. This coincided with the aforementioned policy of disinvestment, prompting numerous strikes by the Sanitation Department, who at certain points refused to pick up trash at all, letting it rot on the streets for days, prompting the nickname “stink city.” By the middle of the decade, most of the fires in the city were arson, and there were yearly riots; some building owners paid teenagers to set their buildings on fire so they could collect the insurance money. The most famous riot, the 1977 Blackout, saw looting in 31 neighborhoods and caused over $300 million in damages in less than 25 hours, with more than 3,700 people arrested.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1q81vv/was_new_york_of_the_1970s_the_shithole_movies/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1q81vv/was_new_york_of_the_1970s_the_shithole_movies/)



Again, Thin Lizzy stated that if you walked down the block in NYC, EVERY car had a broken window and you could not walk down the street without being aggressively confronted by panhandlers. That is not the truth. I am not doubting that NYC was in a bad place. But I am doubting the extent to which Thin Lizzy is basically saying that you couldn't walk down the street without feeling safe. Again, he is greatly exaggerating. I used to walk around in all sorts of neighborhoods and was never attacked or mugged. My car was never broken into. Thin Lizzy is making it seem like NYC was a dystopian society at the time. It wasn't. Again, was it in a bad place? Yes. But if you read Thin Lizzy's original posts, he's making it seem like if you walked outside of your home, your head would be blown off and you'd be mugged. Um, no. I mean, he said that EVERY car had a broken window that was parked on the street lol. No.

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Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SF1900 on July 19, 2016, 09:05:25 PM
It's totally inaccurate in this situation.  This isn't a guy getting caught cheating on his wife or something.  He's been front and center leading a divisive campaign.  Making a lot of bold statements and is on TV 24/7 for the last year plus.  This won't go away in "9 days".

You give the average political citizen too much credit.

Sorry, they will go away in 23 days. Here, I extended it for the people who are not obsessed with their iphones.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: Never1AShow on July 20, 2016, 07:10:14 AM
You give the average political citizen too much credit.

Sorry, they will go away in 23 days. Here, I extended it for the people who are not obsessed with their iphones.

Midsummer no one is even watching this stuff except political junkies and shills.  Probably 80 percent of those who actually vote already have their minds made up.  The rest won't even know there is an election until after the Olympics.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 20, 2016, 07:35:54 AM
Again, Thin Lizzy stated that if you walked down the block in NYC, EVERY car had a broken window and you could not walk down the street without being aggressively confronted by panhandlers. That is not the truth. I am not doubting that NYC was in a bad place. But I am doubting the extent to which Thin Lizzy is basically saying that you couldn't walk down the street without feeling safe. Again, he is greatly exaggerating. I used to walk around in all sorts of neighborhoods and was never attacked or mugged. My car was never broken into. Thin Lizzy is making it seem like NYC was a dystopian society at the time. It wasn't. Again, was it in a bad place? Yes. But if you read Thin Lizzy's original posts, he's making it seem like if you walked outside of your home, your head would be blown off and you'd be mugged. Um, no. I mean, he said that EVERY car had a broken window that was parked on the street lol. No.

(https://bookywook-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/post/image/5137bedd7b0d8142bf00a809/5-tips-to-writing-a-dystopian-novel.png)

You still haven't told us how old you are. I'm 52. My guess is that you were playing in a sandbox during the time I was talking about.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SaintAnger on July 20, 2016, 11:41:28 AM
Disappointed in Rudy.

Before he was riding the waves of 911's disaster into high priced, right wing nut speech engagements, he was out on the streets of NYC as a brave and triumphant Mayor during 911, wading through the ashes trying to help out fellow New Yorkers for free
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: RagingBull on July 20, 2016, 11:44:58 AM
Could it be insincere flattery from Bill Clinton?  Remember, Trump had kind of thrown his hat into the mix before so maybe this was just a BS gesture from Bill thinking it would never amount to much.

Every time I call Trump a dem plant, I am also reminding everyone her hubby is the one who called Trump and asked him to run ;)

And you can find mean things about her from me leading back to 2002 on getbig ;)   I dislike her greatly, she belongs in prison, etc.   
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: SF1900 on July 20, 2016, 11:46:43 AM
You still haven't told us how old you are. I'm 52. My guess is that you were playing in a sandbox during the time I was talking about.

I am younger than you, however, believe it or not, I actually know people who are older than you who live in NYC. Shocker, huh?  :o :o :o I mean, there are actually people who are still alive in NYC!!  :o :o And they said NYC was obviously worse than it is today, but not to the extent you are making it sound (EVERY car was broken into on the street).  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: 240 is Back on July 20, 2016, 12:26:25 PM
Could it be insincere flattery from Bill Clinton?  Remember, Trump had kind of thrown his hat into the mix before so maybe this was just a BS gesture from Bill thinking it would never amount to much.


I dunno...  I had already posted the trump announce date 3 weeks before that.  It leaked he would decide and announce on that day.  It's on getbig lol. 

Trump = billionaire household name who is amazing on TV.  I doubt CLinton would want a legit threat from that.  On the other hand, if his golfing buddy said "ya know what, I'm gonna make a DEAL with you... I'll make sure hilary runs unopposed, and you -____"   I guess we find that out when Prez Hilary awards Trump Industries some monster contracts.
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: Palumboism on July 21, 2016, 03:10:42 PM
Again, Thin Lizzy stated that if you walked down the block in NYC, EVERY car had a broken window and you could not walk down the street without being aggressively confronted by panhandlers. That is not the truth. I am not doubting that NYC was in a bad place. But I am doubting the extent to which Thin Lizzy is basically saying that you couldn't walk down the street without feeling safe. Again, he is greatly exaggerating. I used to walk around in all sorts of neighborhoods and was never attacked or mugged. My car was never broken into. Thin Lizzy is making it seem like NYC was a dystopian society at the time. It wasn't. Again, was it in a bad place? Yes. But if you read Thin Lizzy's original posts, he's making it seem like if you walked outside of your home, your head would be blown off and you'd be mugged. Um, no. I mean, he said that EVERY car had a broken window that was parked on the street lol. No.





Documentary about New York in 1979, skip to the 37 minute mark.  Moving from safety to EXTREME Danger. I kid you not.

Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: Nails on July 21, 2016, 03:14:24 PM
lol are those the Marcy projects in NY, the once Jay Z, Wu Tang and every other rapper rapped about
Title: Re: Rudy giuliani Absolutely Killing it at the RNC
Post by: AD2100 on July 21, 2016, 03:21:23 PM
Says the disgruntled squeegeeman he exiled in the early 90s.
???
I am not your father. Sorry man.