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What a total douchebag move.
Train wreck of a speech
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Heidi Cruz Rushed Out By Security After Crowd Turns On Ted Cruz
mashable.com ^ | July 21, 2016
Posted on July 20, 2016 at 10:42:13 PM EDT by Helicondelta
Heidi Cruz, wife of Texas Senator Ted Cruz, was reportedly rushed out of the Republican National Convention on Wednesday night after the crowd turned on her husband at the end of his speech.
Boos rained down on Ted Cruz as he issued a speech calling for people to vote on their "conscience" and declining to officially endorse Donald Trump, despite loud calls for him to do so from the crowd.
With her is Ken Cuccinelli, the former attorney general of Virginia, who has also been firmly anti-Trump.
Cuccinelli reportedly confirmed to journalists that he helped Heidi Cruz leave the scene after the speech out of concern for her safety.
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Sure, that's how people feel today.
But in 2 years? After trump either hands it to Hilary, or cakewalks thru his job disappearing for weeks while Pence does all the work?
Cruz will look like a freakin' genius. Cruz 2020 just picked up some momentum. You know how many repubs are at home applauding? SO many skipped the convention. Cruz is smart not to get on the trump train. He knows what trump is.
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SC: Like you, and me, Cruz truly believes Trump is a dem plant.
Cruz: Trump is working for Hillary
After weeks of facing accusations about his eligibility to be president, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz is fighting back against billionaire Donald Trump with a conspiracy theory of his own.
Cruz seems to be trying to renew chatter that Trump is a plant meant to help Hillary Clinton win the election — or, at the least, that Trump is benefiting Clinton’s campaign.
The conspiracy theory that Trump is a Democratic plant — and perhaps not genuinely a Republican — began shortly after Trump announced his campaign. As an independent businessman, Trump had previously donated to Clinton’s Senate campaigns and to the Clinton Foundation. And long-time Trump observers say they have been surprised by the hard right turn he has taken in his presidential campaign.
Trump has explained his previous support of Democratic candidates as part of doing business in left-leaning New York, and has admitted that some of his positions on issues like abortion have evolved over the years. And as Trump has risen in the polls to become a serious challenger to Clinton, most of the talk that Trump and the Democrats were in cahoots seemed to die down.
But now Cruz appears ready to give it another spark.
Cruz began raising the issue Tuesday while questioning Trump’s “New York values” and his close association with liberals. In particular, Cruz questioned whether, on the issue of Cruz’s eligibility, Trump was getting advice from leading Democrats.
“It’s more than a little strange to see Donald Trump is relying on as authoritative a liberal left-wing judicial activist Harvard law professor who is a huge Hillary supporter,” said Cruz, referring to the fact that Trump has repeatedly cited professor Laurence Tribe on the issue of Cruz’s eligibility.
Tribe, a well-known liberal and supporter of Democratic candidates, has been called President Barack Obama’s legal mentor.
“It starts to make you think, gosh, why are Hillary’s strongest supporters backing Donald Trump? The past couple of elections we saw the Democrats thrilled that they got the nominee they wanted to run against in the general election,” Cruz said. “The Hillary folks are very eager to support Donald Trump.”
Speaking to radio host Howie Carr, Cruz continued the attacks, subtlety raising questions about Trump’s values. “Donald comes from New York and he embodies New York values,” Cruz said, adding that “The Donald seems to be a little bit rattled” over his position in the polls, suggesting Trump may not have expected (or intended) to do as well as he has.
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Came across as classless
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Lol!!
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What a total douchebag move.
Train wreck of a speech
when I first heard that he was going to speak my first thought was what a truly pathetic piece of shit to show up and in any way help the person who you TRULY don't think should be POTUS who also viciously attacked your wife and father
what kind of scumbag would show up and help that person
this is the first really smart thing I've seen this guy do
he's still running for POTUS and just took Trumps lunch or rather tricked Trump into giving it to him
I like how the master businessman who is going to "make america great again" got fooled by Ted Cruz and allowed him to show up to do this
imagine how badly this idiot would get "pwned" as POTUS
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Came across as classless
Trump is 100x more classless
talking about periods, handicapped reporters, shooting people, beating protesters, etc.
Cruz comes across as classless simply because he tells people to vote CONSTUTION and not rubber stamp this dem plant trump?
I'm telling ya... Cruz will be seen as a visionary in 2 years. The only one who stood by the constitution while everyone else just got in line behind the lose trump.
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Trump is 100x more classless
talking about periods, handicapped reporters, shooting people, beating protesters, etc.
Cruz comes across as classless simply because he tells people to vote CONSTUTION and not rubber stamp this dem plant trump?
I'm telling ya... Cruz will be seen as a visionary in 2 years. The only one who stood by the constitution while everyone else just got in line behind the lose trump.
great point
why do you think Cruz forget to mention the Dem Plant part?
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But doesn't this give a perception of renewed solidarity behind Trump?
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He has said it already.
What he said tonight was the kind of anti ass kissing the country needs. When "vote the constitution" is considered to betray the party, we have to ask what the party truly stands for.
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But doesn't this give a perception of renewed solidarity behind Trump?
nope
there are millions of Repubs who don't want Trump to represent them
Cruz's statement was a dog whistle and Trump gave him live prime time coverage to do it
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What does Cruz mean by this:
"It starts to make you think, gosh, why are Hillary’s strongest supporters backing Donald Trump?"
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nope
there are millions of Repubs who don't want Trump to represent them
Cruz's statement was a dog whistle and Trump gave him live prime time coverage to do it
Doesn't that further support the idea he's spooked of winning, though?
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What does Cruz mean by this:
"It starts to make you think, gosh, why are Hillary’s strongest supporters backing Donald Trump?"
and I assume your thought is because Trump really wants Hillary to win
and then
Trump was planted by Bill Clinton and is working for Bill Clinton this entire time
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Doesn't that further support the idea he's spooked of winning, though?
not to me
it seems more obvious he's an amateur at everything and got punked once again
try to recall back 24 hours where he let his wife make a fool of herself
do you think he would like a "do over" on that one or was that also intentional?
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He has said it already.
What he said tonight was the kind of anti ass kissing the country needs. When "vote the constitution" is considered to betray the party, we have to ask what the party truly stands for.
has he?
you mean one time as a joke back when they couldn't believe this guy was kicking their ass
why not now and again and all the time ?
is it no longer true?
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and I assume your thought is because Trump really wants Hillary to win
and then
Trump was planted by Bill Clinton and is working for Bill Clinton this entire time
No, I'm trying to figure out what he means by "hilary's strongest supporters" are "backing" Trump.
How do they do that?
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Trump's own team admits he's mismanaged the campaign.
it's very obvious he mismanaged the convention - 2 days of plagiarism talk and now, Cruz upstages and punks him.
whoever is in charge of approving speeches has 2 big strikes this week lol.
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No, I'm trying to figure out what he means by "hilary's strongest supporters" are "backing" Trump.
How do they do that?
which supporters and how ?
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not to me
it seems more obvious he's an amateur at everything and got punked once again
try to recall back 24 hours where he let his wife make a fool of herself
do you think he's like a "do over" on that one or was that also intentional?
I think he's failing to stay on top of things, and it allows stuff like that to happen.
God bless this woman, but would you allow her to make a speech on your behalf without actually double-checking it yourself or having a trusted person do it? Man, I was loling so hard when she was asserting the supposed value of 'your word' as she was reading a stolen speech. And with that blank look and pouty accent, I swear it was the funniest thing ever.
Great comedy but not the place for it.
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which supporters and how ?
I don't know. It's something Cruz said, according to what 240 posted up there. Unless I'm mistaken about it.
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Nevermind, I understand. Will look at it more.
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I am proud of Ted. 8)
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Worse political move of that man's career.
Really bizarre how he went into "my father came to this country with only a 100 dollar bill sewn to the inside of his pants" mode whenever the crowd really began to turn on him.
Perhaps he is far more suited as a senator rather than a general election candidate because I can't ever see him taking the ultimate prize after last night.
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HAHAHA go away Ted. You lost. Twice now. Move on along and leave the politics to the candidates that people actually like.
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Ted Cruz: A Very Small Man ("I thought he was a patriot; last night, he proved he isn't.")
Frontpage Mag ^ | 07/21/2016 | Don Feder
Posted on 07/21/2016 2:56:09 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeat tle
I’m ashamed that I voted for Ted Cruz in the Massachusetts’ Republican Primary.
I thought he was a man of integrity. Last night he proved -- beyond a shadow of a doubt -- that he isn’t. He made a solemn pledge to support the Republican nominee. And he broke that crucial promise.
I thought he was a patriot. Last night, he proved he isn’t. However bitter and angry he is at Donald Trump, he knows that Trump is the only person standing between Hillary Clinton (a liar, a fraud, a thief and a traitor) and the presidency. And yet – after meticulously laying out the case against another 4 to 8 years of leftist tyranny -- he refused to endorse the one man who can put an end to our long national nightmare.
Cruz wasn’t driven by principle, but by ego. He can’t accept the fact that the party chose Trump over him.
Ted Cruz made the worst mistake of his political career. Millions of us will never forget or forgive his betrayal. He will never be his party’s nominee for president. He will never hold the highest office in the land.
Ted Cruz is a very small man.
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Roger Stone: Ted Cruz 'is a dumb son of a bitch'
The Hill ^ | July 20, 2016 | Peter Schroeder
Posted on 7/21/2016, 12:36:29 AM by monkapotamus
"By Ted Cruz not supporting the nominee, he's exempted himself from real conservatives," he said. "No voter gives a crap about what Ted Cruz does. The only person this hurts is Ted Cruz..."
"Ted Cruz thinks he's Ronald Reagan. The problem is he's not anything near Reagan in terms of being an inspiring, likable figure," Stone said. "He's a dumb son of a bitch who thinks he's smarter than everybody else."
"He's a despicable human being," he added
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Cruz aides made late push for Trump endorsement
The Hill ^ | July 20, 2016 | Jonathan Swan
Posted on 7/21/2016, 8:30:02 AM by Pinkbell
CLEVELAND — Just hours before Ted Cruz took the stage for his convention speech Wednesday night, senior members of Cruz's team were still pushing him to endorse Donald Trump. Cruz never wanted to endorse Trump and is still furious about the personal attacks the GOP presidential nominee made on his family during the primary campaign, sources familiar with the speech preparations told The Hill.
But top aides had concluded he needed to formally endorse Trump at the Republican National Convention.
For Cruz, it was always personal. During the primaries, Trump repeated a tabloid conspiracy theory linking Cruz's father to the man who assassinated President Kennedy, and he tweeted a picture that ridiculed the appearance of Cruz's wife, Heidi.
Trump has never expressed much contrition for those actions.
Still, some aides to Cruz, a Republican senator from Texas, were pushing him to endorse Trump for the sake of his own political future.
Cruz has indicated intentions to run for president again in 2020, and he has a team forming behind him to execute that plan. 2020 was the unspoken undertone beneath the drafting Wednesday night's speech.
Allies of Cruz, a number of whom have spoken privately to The Hill throughout this week, have been worried about what effect not endorsing Trump would have on the senator's future.
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What a total douchebag move.
Train wreck of a speech
Trump said Ted's father was involved in the murder of JFK , posted shopped photos of his wife referring to her as ugly, and called Ted a liar for the last 10 months.
I am voting for Trump, but I have no problem with what Cruz said last night.
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Trump said Ted's father was involved in the murder of JFK , posted shopped photos of his wife referring to her as ugly, and called Ted a liar for the last 10 months.
I am voting for Trump, but I have no problem with what Cruz said last night.
He should have stayed home. It came across as creepy and bizarre
My .02
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He should have stayed home. It came across as creepy and bizarre
My .02
Considering where you live, of course you would think that.
Trump begged him to come and speak and reviewed his speech prior. Cruz is not a coward like Jeb and Kasich who refused to come. The only thing that was "creepy" was the new york delegates who started yelling at him in the middle of his speech, but of course considering where you reside I am sure you had no problem with that.
My .03
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Considering where you live, of course you would think that.
Trump begged him to come and speak and reviewed his speech prior. Cruz is not a coward like Jeb and Kasich who refused to come. The only thing that was "creepy" was the new york delegates who started yelling at him in the middle of his speech, but of course considering where you reside I am sure you had no problem with that.
My .03
On TV he just seems strange. Maybe its the turkey neck and the contrived voice cadence, IDK. I thought Eric Trump, Rudy, were best so far
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On TV he just seems strange. Maybe its the turkey neck and the contrived voice cadence, IDK.
Someone from the Bronx finds the way other people talk strange. ::)
Great post soul crusher.
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Someone from the Bronx finds the way other people talk strange. ::)
Great post soul crusher.
Could be - was just my initial impression. His speech seems to not have went over well with many people at all across the spectrum tough. Even the Texas delegation booed him over what seemed to be too cute by 1/2 speech.
If he doesnt want to vote for Trump, then he should just say it. His "vote your conscious" means what? Vote for Johnson? Hillary?
"Vote for people upholding the constitution" - ok - Johnson, Hillary, or Trump - but without saying which one - who is he referring to?
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On TV he just seems strange. Maybe its the turkey neck and the contrived voice cadence, IDK.
Trump's comb-over and orange skin seems perfectly normal though?
I am voting for Trump in November, and will be voting again for Cruz for his re-election in 2 years, unlike you the way a person looks and talks inst important to me.
Could be - was just my initial impression. His speech seems to not have went over well with many people at all across the spectrum tough. Even the Texas delegation booed him over what seemed to be too cute by 1/2 speech.
If he doesnt want to vote for Trump, then he should just say it. His "vote your conscious" means what? Vote for Johnson? Hillary?
"Vote for people upholding the constitution" - ok - Johnson, Hillary, or Trump - but without saying which one - who is he referring to?
You have been trashing Trump on here non stop for the last 2 months, and until just last week were saying you were gonna vote for Johnson, and yet you are so upset with what Cruz said? GMAFB
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Trump's comb-over and orange skin seems perfectly normal though?
I am voting for Trump in November, and will be voting again for Cruz for his re-election in 2 years, unlike you the way a person looks and talks inst important to me.
You have been trashing Trump on here non stop for the last 2 months, and until just last week were saying you were gonna vote for Johnson, and yet you are so upset with what Cruz said? GMAFB
I dont like Trump at all - he is a clown , probably working for Hillary, looks absurb w the comb over and organ color, etc. I am going to vote for Trump as of today mainly due to my utter hatred of hillary and the left wing communist rabble, nothing else. If it appears the election is totally lost, ill vote for johnson.
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I dont like Trump at all - he is a clown , probably working for Hillary, looks absurb w the comb over and organ color, etc. I am going to vote for Trump as of today mainly due to my utter hatred of hillary and the left wing communist rabble, nothing else. If it appears the election is totally lost, ill vote for johnson.
Thank you for making my point. You are in no position to criticize Cruz.
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Thank you for making my point. You are in no position to criticize Cruz.
What did he really accomplish last night other than pissing off a lot of people? I read he tried to go into a booth last night of Roger Ailes and was not even let in, his wife was booed out of out there, it came across as tacky and low rent.
Trump is a train wreck on numerous levels and acted ridiculous towards Cruz during the primary - no question. The Lyin Ted, the accusing the father of killing kennedy, the pic of the wife, - all pathetic, childish, and borderline insane - but i still dont see how Cruz did himself any favors last night.
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I read he tried to go into a booth last night of Roger Ailes and was not even let in.
wow, you mean to say that Fox News doesn't care for Cruz ? unbelievable ::)
his wife was booed out of out there, it came across as tacky and low rent.
You mean to tell me the same New York trash (and other Trump delegates) that yelled at Cruz during his speech were also rude to his wife? unbelievable ::)
Trump is a train wreck on numerous levels and acted ridiculous towards Cruz during the primary - no question. The Lyin Ted, the accusing the father of killing kennedy, the pic of the wife, - all pathetic, childish, and borderline insane - but i still dont see how Cruz did himself any favors last night.
You mean that when a Politician doesn't do what is best for him politically, or as you said what "favors" him politically but instead is honest and also stands up for his family is now something to be looked down upon?
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wow, you mean to say that Fox News doesn't care for Cruz ? unbelievable ::)
(FYI I have made 100's of post pointing out that Fox hates Cruz over the last year.)
You mean to tell me the same New York trash (and other Trump delegates) that yelled at Cruz during his speech were also rude to his wife? unbelievable ::)
You mean that when a Politician doesn't do what is best for him politically, or as you said what "favors" him politically but instead is honest and also stands up for his family is now something to be looked down upon?
If that was his mission - then mission accomplished.
If his long game is to hope trump loses and run in 2020 - people wont forget this at all. Maybe he thinks it will help?
Maybe he hopes trump wins and is a disaster and primaries him in 2020? IDK - it all seems strange to me.
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If that was his mission - then mission accomplished.
If his long game is to hope trump loses and run in 2020 - people wont forget this at all. Maybe he thinks it will help?
Maybe he hopes trump wins and is a disaster and primaries him in 2020? IDK - it all seems strange to me.
Maybe he finds standing up for his family and being honest more important than what the media and the new york trash think or what is politically best for him?
He was also told that he would be finished politically if he went against President George Bush in the Medellín v. Texas case, but he did not care and instead did what was right in that situation too, and I respect what he did then, and respect him now.
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2015/11/the-real-reason-gw-bush-hates-ted-cruz
and BTW it was Billionaire Sheldon Adelson that did not let him in (not Roger Ailes)
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If anyone is curious how Trump will run the country if elected they can just look at how he has run this convention so far.
First he lets his wife publicly humiliate herself with the most amateurish mistake of blatant plagiarism. Then they deny she did anything wrong. Then they admitted she plagiarized but it wasn't really her fault and then they said the person responsible would not be fired. Last night Trump let a guy he called Lying Ted speak and he made a total fool of Trump.
If Trump is POTUS he will embarrass the country like this on a daily basis.
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Maybe he finds standing up for his family and being honest more important than what the media and the new york trash think or what is politically best for him?
He was also told that he would be finished politically if he went against President George Bush in the Medellín v. Texas case, but he did not care and instead did what was right in that situation too, and I respect what he did then, and respect him now.
https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2015/11/the-real-reason-gw-bush-hates-ted-cruz
and BTW it was Billionaire Sheldon Adelson that did not let him in (not Roger Ailes)
Cruz put the pistol to the head and pulled the trigger last night.
It was so embarrassing hearing him go into auto pilot mode and ramble on about his immigrant father after being called out by the crowd. Looked incredibly weak.
Pissed out a large portion of the GOP voters and gave fodder for the Democrats come 2020 or whenever for that matter.
Anybody who thinks he can win a general election after that stunt is delusional.
And beyond any of that...the guy was down something like 1700 to 400 in delegates while pulling this stunt.
The lack of self awareness was stunning.
Ted Cruz is so done when it comes to presidential politics.
Yeah he might hold on to his senate seat but that guy is simply incapable of doing anything else but get brutally smoked in a general election. He just has pissed off too many people.
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I am voting for Trump in November, and will be voting again for Cruz for his re-election in 2 years, unlike you the way a person looks and talks inst important to me.
Would you vote for Cruz in a 2020 primary challenge against Trump?
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Cruz discovered that in 2016 Republican politics, the more you punch people in the face, the more they like you.
Trump should have been "finished" about 500 times this election season. Shiiting on POWs, mocking the handicapped... any of those things would have sunk a rand or rubio. But it didn't.
Cruz realizes that the bigger dick you are, the more people like you in the GOP base. They boo'd because the place was packed with trump nut huggers. The constitution was #50 on their list of things to worry about last night. Power, money, shitting on hilary, etc.
Trump is a classless fck, all the way. Only classless fcks would disagree.
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Cruz discovered that in 2016 Republican politics, the more you punch people in the face, the more they like you.
Trump should have been "finished" about 500 times this election season. Shiiting on POWs, mocking the handicapped... any of those things would have sunk a rand or rubio. But it didn't.
Cruz realizes that the bigger dick you are, the more people like you in the GOP base. They boo'd because the place was packed with trump nut huggers. The constitution was #50 on their list of things to worry about last night. Power, money, shitting on hilary, etc.
Trump is a classless fck, all the way. Only classless fcks would disagree.
So as a matter of pure performance and theater - what was accomplished?
The only thing I can possibly think - Cruz thinks that Trump will lose and he used this opportunity to curry favor w a % of the GOP base for 2020 so that if there is a fractured election primary like this time - he starts out in front.
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Ted Cruz was also told that he would be finished politically if he went against President George Bush in the Medellín v. Texas case, but he did not care and instead did what was right in that situation too, and I respect what he did then, and respect him now.
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So as a matter of pure performance and theater - what was accomplished?
The only thing I can possibly think - Cruz thinks that Trump will lose and he used this opportunity to curry favor w a % of the GOP base for 2020 so that if there is a fractured election primary like this time - he starts out in front.
Well he managed to get booed out of the building by the GOP delegation.
Seems pretty basic to me that something like that will be hard to rebound from.
How anybody sees it otherwise is beyond me.
Yeah he made a "statement" and "stood up for principle"(his own selfish ones btw) and all that other rah rah bullshit. but certainly he did far more damage, politically speaking than good.
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Donald Trump ‘Orchestrated the Boos’ for Ted Cruz
Late Wednesday night, a source within the Cruz team informed Daily Wire exclusively that the Trump campaign had sandbagged Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) over his speech at the Republican National Convention. Cruz spoke at the RNC, where he congratulated Trump on his campaign victory, then spoke about the necessity for freedom and finally stated that Americans should “vote your conscience.” He was met with resounding boos on the floor of the convention; his wife Heidi had to be rushed from the room; according to reports, one Republican delegate physically accosted Cruz, and Republican megadonor Sheldon Adelson refused to meet with Cruz.
According to the source, the entire Cruz speech was cleared by the Trump campaign. Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign manager, expressly approved the speech at 4:30 PM ET. The source, who was standing on the convention floor at the time of the speech, said that Trump operatives were present, urging the crowd to boo. “This was orchestrated by the Trump campaign to make Senator Cruz a pariah within the party,” said the source.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/21/ted-cruz-ben-shapiro-trump-orchestrated/
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Oh. So Trump meant to upstage his own veep?
If he's not trying to lose, he is sure as shit acting like it. Pence gave a great speech, perfect and safe and logical, showing he's prepared to do all the tasks Trump promises not to do.
Trump engineers drama, instead. Wonderful. This reckless chaotic shtick is the kind of unpredictable mess you want from a president.
THis whole week stinks of disorganization, drama, and chaos. Imagine what a trump presidency would look like.
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Donald Trump ‘Orchestrated the Boos’ for Ted Cruz
Late Wednesday night, a source within the Cruz team informed Daily Wire exclusively that the Trump campaign had sandbagged Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) over his speech at the Republican National Convention. Cruz spoke at the RNC, where he congratulated Trump on his campaign victory, then spoke about the necessity for freedom and finally stated that Americans should “vote your conscience.” He was met with resounding boos on the floor of the convention; his wife Heidi had to be rushed from the room; according to reports, one Republican delegate physically accosted Cruz, and Republican megadonor Sheldon Adelson refused to meet with Cruz.
According to the source, the entire Cruz speech was cleared by the Trump campaign. Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign manager, expressly approved the speech at 4:30 PM ET. The source, who was standing on the convention floor at the time of the speech, said that Trump operatives were present, urging the crowd to boo. “This was orchestrated by the Trump campaign to make Senator Cruz a pariah within the party,” said the source.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/21/ted-cruz-ben-shapiro-trump-orchestrated/
Seems like Cruz thought he was going to be slick , but go out slicked himself. He walked right into a trap that he himself thought he was getting over on.
Honestly - what did he think was going to happen not endorsing Trump? When the nevertrump situation failed on Day 1 of the convention, if he didnt realize that ship sailed - he has only himself to blame for the island he created for himself.
Just talking about sheer raw politics here - nothing else.
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So as a matter of pure performance and theater - what was accomplished?
The only thing I can possibly think - Cruz thinks that Trump will lose and he used this opportunity to curry favor w a % of the GOP base for 2020 so that if there is a fractured election primary like this time - he starts out in front.
SC,
When the rest of the party watches Trump coast thru the next few months, wasting RNC dollars, bombing against hilary and losing 40 states.... and they slowly realize they chose a lazy democrat who goofed off, destroyed many good republican names, and gave us 4 years of hilary...
They'll be looking around for answers. They won't find them in kiss asses like Christie and Rubio. They'll find it in Cruz/Kasich, who defied the monstrosity known as trump.
And even if Trump wins - 19% right now, could go up - They have a viable alternative to the train wreck that his first term could be. In 4 years, there's no wall, he's feuding with evreyone, Pence is running the country, and Trump is doing movie cameos and disappearing for weeks on end.
Yes, that's probably how it'll look, and Trump has already promised to let the veep handle the actual presidential job duties.
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I watched the speech and have no problem with anything he said. Pretty underhanded for them to invite him to speak, preview his speech beforehand, then encourage people to boo and act butt hurt when the speech is over. Typical Trump shadiness. And people tried to physically assault his wife? What kind of animals did they have in that place?
So if I'm following this, people actually expected Cruz to outright endorse a man who called him a liar for months and publicly attacked his wife? I'm glad he showed character and had the stones to stand his ground in front of the entire country in hostile crowd. He made his pledge to support the candidate before those things happened. I don't blame him one bit for changing his mind.
And no, this doesn't do anything to hurt him for a couple reasons:
1. People have short memories.
2. If Trump is elected and has a successful term, and decides to run for reelection, Cruz isn't going to challenge Trump in four years (nor is anyone else). If Trump doesn't win in November or wins and has a disastrous term, then all those people who didn't rally around him are going to look like prophets.
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Seems like Cruz thought he was going to be slick , but go out slicked himself. He walked right into a trap that he himself thought he was getting over on.
Honestly - what did he think was going to happen not endorsing Trump? When the nevertrump situation failed on Day 1 of the convention, if he didnt realize that ship sailed - he has only himself to blame for the island he created for himself.
Just talking about sheer raw politics here - nothing else.
Trump is a brillliant media mind. He KNEW that letting Cruz speak this non-endorsement would be the story of the night.
Just like he knew the very familiar Michelle Obama speech would make his wife's theft the story of the night (or two).
If he's not tanking it on purpose to bury voices like Rudy, that cool bearded badass cop, Christie, and Pence... he sure is acting like it ;)
The end result of all of this will be 3 things: Trump's wife stole from maobama, Cruz is a dick, and whatever trump's speech is tonight. The bar is set so low, trump could fart the ABCs in the mic and get a standing ovation.
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I watched the speech and have no problem with anything he said. Pretty underhanded for them to invite him to speak, preview his speech beforehand, then encourage people to boo and act butt hurt when the speech is over. Typical Trump shadiness. And people tried to physically assault his wife? What kind of animals did they have in that place?
So if I'm following this, people actually expected Cruz to outright endorse a man who called him a liar for months and publicly attacked his wife? I'm glad he showed character and had the stones to stand his ground in front of the entire country in hostile crowd. He made his pledge to support the candidate before those things happened. I don't blame him one bit for changing his mind.
And no, this doesn't do anything to hurt him for a couple reasons:
1. People have short memories.
2. If Trump is elected and has a successful term, and decides to run for reelection, Cruz isn't going to challenge Trump in four years (nor is anyone else). If Trump doesn't win in November or wins and has a disastrous term, then all those people who didn't rally around him are going to look like prophets.
Glad to know that someone agrees with me on this.
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I watched the speech and have no problem with anything he said.
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That was my point - this is politics - not some matter of a man defending his honor, etc. Cruz is making a political bet he hopes will pay off in 4 years or possibly sooner. He may be right, he may be wrong.
SC,
When the rest of the party watches Trump coast thru the next few months, wasting RNC dollars, bombing against hilary and losing 40 states.... and they slowly realize they chose a lazy democrat who goofed off, destroyed many good republican names, and gave us 4 years of hilary...
They'll be looking around for answers. They won't find them in kiss asses like Christie and Rubio. They'll find it in Cruz/Kasich, who defied the monstrosity known as trump.
And even if Trump wins - 19% right now, could go up - They have a viable alternative to the train wreck that his first term could be. In 4 years, there's no wall, he's feuding with evreyone, Pence is running the country, and Trump is doing movie cameos and disappearing for weeks on end.
Yes, that's probably how it'll look, and Trump has already promised to let the veep handle the actual presidential job duties.
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Seems like Cruz thought he was going to be slick , but go out slicked himself. He walked right into a trap that he himself thought he was getting over on.
Honestly - what did he think was going to happen not endorsing Trump? When the nevertrump situation failed on Day 1 of the convention, if he didnt realize that ship sailed - he has only himself to blame for the island he created for himself.
Just talking about sheer raw politics here - nothing else.
Exactly. Leaving all personal feelings you have towards Trump or towards Cruz, good or bad.
That move by Cruz was stupid as hell.
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Glad to know that someone agrees with me on this.
Yep.
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Has anyone seen the video of Cruz hooking up with prostitutes and of his love child?
there is video of him on tues/thurs having regular hookups. there was a closet incident at 2012 convention and there may be offspring with identical facial features.
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Exactly. Leaving all personal feelings you have towards Trump or towards Cruz, good or bad.
That move by Cruz was stupid as hell.
Yeah - some are taking this way too hard. Its raw politics, and from that move seemed stupid to me - but who knows - if Trump goes down hard - Cruz might benefit in 4 years, maybe not. But what I saw last night on visual and performance basis looked silly.
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Phil Robertson to Ted Cruz: Give Me a Break, Endorse Trump Already
Breitbart ^ | July 21, 2016 | Trent Baker
Posted on 7/21/2016, 12:40:58 PM by proust
“I mean, give me a break, Ted, go ahead and endorse [Donald Trump]. You lost, he won. I think Cruz is a terrific guy, strict constitutionalist. He’s not the most bubbly guy I’ve ever run across, if you understand what I’m saying. But, I love that dude. All the guys who lost, and gals, they all need to swallow their pride and say, ‘The people — the Republican party has said Donald Trump is the man we want in the White House,'” Robertson stated.
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Ted Cruz Doubles Down on Trump Endorsement Snub
By Sandy Fitzgerald | Thursday, 21 Jul 2016
Members of Texas' convention delegation grew heated Thursday morning when Sen. Ted Cruz, the morning after he was roundly booed for not endorsing Donald Trump from the Republican National Convention stage, insisted that he didn't say a "single negative word" about the GOP nominee, and he doesn't intend to.
They cheered him when he insisted he won't vote for presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, but the cheers turned to jeers from many in the room when he would not commit to an endorsement for Trump, while admitting that in part his decision may be personal.
"I am not in the habit of supporting people who attack my wife and attack my father," Cruz told the delegation, referring to Trump's retweeting a post that ridiculed wife Heidi's looks and for Trump insinuating that his father had something to do with the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
"That pledge was not a blanket commitment that if you go and slander my wife that I am going to come like a servile puppy dog for maligning my wife and maligning my father," he continued.
Some of the delegates continued to applaud Cruz's talking points, but others broke into cheers of "USA, USA," after one of the delegates, Geraldine Sam of Lamarque, Texas, demanded to know why Cruz pledged to support the eventual nominee, but now refuses to do so.
"If you're not a man of your word, what are you, then?" she demanded to know, telling him that she turned her back to him when he walked onto the convention stage, "because you lied to me. And don't take my vote for granted because you lied to me. I came to this convention as a Cruz delegate and I'm leaving supporting Donald Trump as the party nominee. "
Cruz, though, told the delegates that what he said Wednesday and what he is sticking with is encouraging people to vote for leaders who will "do what they say and stand by their principles."
"I assume the Trump campaign wanted me to speak," said Cruz. "They saw my speech several hours before I gave it. They knew exactly what I was going to say. I believe they wanted me to speak because they believed it would encourage people to come out and vote. If they didn't, I was perfectly happy to get on plane and go home."
And, he said he asked conservatives at home and Republicans to go out and vote for "candidates that you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution."
The election, he said, is "about principles and ideals and about standing for what we believe in. And, I have to say, it was somewhat dismaying that apparently some of Donald's biggest partisans, when they heard you should vote for someone you can trust, defend the Constitution, they immediately began booing."
While Cruz would not say if he will vote for Trump, he also insisted he will never cast a vote for presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.
"I am doing what millions of Americans are doing," he said. "I am watching. I'm listening and the standard that I intend to apply is which candidate I trust to defend our freedom and be faithful to the Constitution."
And Clinton, he said, "fails that test profoundly, and I will note a significant part of my speech last night was laying out the incredible damage of Hillary Clinton's vision."
Cruz said, though, he's watching Trump carefully.
"I've laid out the standard," Cruz told the delegates. "I will be listening to how he and the campaign conducts themselves every day from now until November. That's what I believe the American people will be doing also. The way to win, as I tried with all my might, is not to just scream and yell and attack as traitor anyone that would dare question our candidates."
He said he believes that holding candidates responsible applies to everyone, and he does not intend to "go out and throw rocks at Donald."
"I intend, like a voter, like all of us, just to listen and make the best judgment I can," said Cruz.
"Every one of us has to follow our conscience when friends of mine, supporters of mine are asking what to do. Follow your conscience. Do what you believe is right."
Cruz admitted that there are many options that he could have taken, including to "turn tail" and not go to the convention. "Let me tell you the politically easy option is to stand up and pledge your allegiance. That's the right political outcome . . . I'm not going to lie to you. What I said last night is what I believe."
Cruz also told one of the delegates that moving forward, he'd suggest that Trump listen to his speech to understand how to move forward, as he outlined his criteria in his convention speech.
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/cruz-trump-convention-speech/2016/07/21/id/739799/#ixzz4F49SZOZX
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Ted Cruz Pulls A Ted Kennedy From The 1980 Democratic Convention
Huffington Post ^ | July 20, 2016 | John A. Tures
When Ted Cruz refused to endorse Donald Trump in his Republican National Convention speech, he channeled his ideological opponent, Ted Kennedy, whose bitter primary fight with Jimmy Carter made him dodge the opportunity to raise hands with his opponent. It cost Carter the 1980 election, and might do similar damage to Trump.
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Pence seeks to unify after Cruz
Politico ^ | July 20,2016 | By Nick Gass and Matthew Nussbaum
CLEVELAND — Mike Pence had the stage to himself Wednesday night. But even with Donald Trump off stage and watching, a different, Texas-sized echo was still ringing.
After largely being overshadowed by Trump during his official debut last weekend, the billionaire businessman’s running mate used the prime-time stage on Wednesday night to bridge the divide between the conservatives who have fallen in line behind Trump and those still holding out. He also tested out his new role as Trump's No. 1 attack dog on Hillary Clinton.
But Pence's prime-time moment came as Republicans were still picking their jaws up from the floor after Texas Sen. Ted Cruz jolted Quicken Loans Arena by telling Republicans to "vote their conscience" in November.
As Pence took the stage, Indiana's delegates chanted "Mike! Mike! Mike!" By the end of the speech, more delegates began to chant, "We Like Mike! We Like Mike! We Like Mike!"
"You know, I'm new to this campaign. Honestly, I never thought I would be standing here. I thought I would be spending this evening with all my friends in the great state of Indiana," Pence said. "Yet there I was, a few days ago in New York City with a man who won 37 states, who faced 16 talented opponents and outlasted every one of them, and along the way brought millions of new voters into the Republican Party."
"He is a man known for a large personality, a colorful style and lots of charisma. So I think he was just looking for some balance on the ticket," Pence quipped, to cheers.
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Pence must be livid given that he endorsed Cruz over Trump and he did this to take away from Pences' speech.
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Pence must be livid given that he endorsed Cruz over Trump and he did this to take away from Pences' speech.
and that Trump KNEW what cruz would say, word for word, and that it'd completely upstage pence last night.
it's the speech of this man's career so far - and he gets 2nd fiddle thanks to The Donald letting the usurper Robert Baratheon speak.
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Ted Cruz would run in 2020 even if Trump is president, RNC official says
Yahoo News ^ | July 20th, 2016 | Jon Ward
Posted on 7/20/2016, 5:55:37 PM by Mariner
CLEVELAND — For the first time in 36 years, there was a vote on the floor of a party’s nominating convention this past Monday that actually held an element of suspense.
In the hour or so ahead of a vote in which insurgents were attempting to reset the convention rules, Republican National Committee operatives circulated the floor and the back halls of Quicken Loans Arena, buttonholing delegates to argue why they should retract support for the motion, and getting them to sign their names to withdrawal forms. Trump aides, by contrast, bullied delegates with vague and ineffective threats.
In one corner of the arena floor, near CNN’s broadcast booth, delegates from the District of Columbia listened to appeals from high-ranking RNC officials.
The RNC’s argument to the D.C. delegates boiled down to this: A vote for the rules reset would open the door to Ted Cruz becoming the GOP’s nominee four years from now.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/rnc-ted-cruz-president-2020-000000680.html
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Yup - Cruz is looking to 2020 - this had nothing to do whatsoever w his wife or his honor or whatsoever
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If Trump wins, and sucks, Cruz has a chance in 2020.
If Trump chokes and loses, Cruz has a very good chance in 2020, as he was the only one bold enough to stand up to Trump.
If Trump wins and does well, Cruz never had a chance anyway - he'll be very fugly on the eyes in 2024 when Vice President Pence gets done running the country for 8 years and Trump shows up once a month to pretend he still works there.
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Ted Cruz would run in 2020 even if Trump is president, RNC official says
Yahoo News ^ | July 20th, 2016 | Jon Ward
Posted on 7/20/2016, 5:55:37 PM by Mariner
CLEVELAND — For the first time in 36 years, there was a vote on the floor of a party’s nominating convention this past Monday that actually held an element of suspense.
In the hour or so ahead of a vote in which insurgents were attempting to reset the convention rules, Republican National Committee operatives circulated the floor and the back halls of Quicken Loans Arena, buttonholing delegates to argue why they should retract support for the motion, and getting them to sign their names to withdrawal forms. Trump aides, by contrast, bullied delegates with vague and ineffective threats.
In one corner of the arena floor, near CNN’s broadcast booth, delegates from the District of Columbia listened to appeals from high-ranking RNC officials.
The RNC’s argument to the D.C. delegates boiled down to this: A vote for the rules reset would open the door to Ted Cruz becoming the GOP’s nominee four years from now.
(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/rnc-ted-cruz-president-2020-000000680.html
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Yup - Cruz is looking to 2020 - this had nothing to do whatsoever w his wife or his honor or whatsoever
Quote from the "RNC official": “If Trump wins, you better bet your ass Cruz is going to primary him,” the RNC official told Yahoo News.
That's it?
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I listened to the local Dallas post game RNC convention wrap up show and I'm telling you, the majority of Ted's supporters were calling in mad as hell with his little routine last night. This election is about beating Hillary plain and simple and this asshole is up there making it about himself.
There is no way that man will ever win a presidential election after last night.
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This election is about beating Hillary plain and simple
Cruz believes Trump is a democrat plant, remember? I posted the link yesterday.
Cruz believes for Trump, the election is about beating the GOP field so she runs de facto unopposed, against him.
Therefore, Cruz trying to stop Trump = Cruz trying to stop hilary.
Did you know Cruz and I feel the same about Trump dem plant?
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Quote from the "RNC official": “If Trump wins, you better bet your ass Cruz is going to primary him,” the RNC official told Yahoo News.
That's it?
I guess. But at this rate Cruz is going to have an issue getting re-elected to Senate.
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I listened to the local Dallas post game RNC convention wrap up show and I'm telling you, the majority of Ted's supporters were calling in mad as hell with his little routine last night. This election is about beating Hillary plain and simple and this asshole is up there making it about himself.
There is no way that man will ever win a presidential election after last night.
Pretty silly to speak in absolutes when talking about political candidates. Obama alienated at least half the country and still won, twice. His "you didn't build that" comment became the theme of the Republican National Convention in 2012. And he still won.
Trump has said some of the most outrageous things ever by a national political candidate. He's the most vile person to ever get this far. And he's winning.
Hillary is a proven, corrupt liar. And she's winning.
But Ted Cruz refused to outright endorse a man who repeatedly called him a liar, attacked his wife, and attacked his father, while at the same time saying exactly what conservatives stand for during his speech, and his career is forever doomed? I don't think so.
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But at this rate Cruz is going to have an issue getting re-elected to Senate.
Want to make a bet?
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HAHAHA go away Ted. You lost. Twice now. Move on along and leave the politics to the candidates that people actually like.
Hillary's combined unfavorable rating is 55.1 percent.
Trump's combined unfavorable rating is 59.9 percent.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/clinton_favorableunfavorable-1131.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html
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I listened to the local Dallas post game RNC convention wrap up show and I'm telling you, the majority of Ted's supporters were calling in mad as hell with his little routine last night. This election is about beating Hillary plain and simple and this asshole is up there making it about himself.
There is no way that man will ever win a presidential election after last night.
Been listening to the radio here in Houston all morning, and have heard mostly praise towards Cruz.
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I guess. But at this rate Cruz is going to have an issue getting re-elected to Senate.
How so? Have you seen polls? Who is he running against?
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the worse trump does - in the election and/or in office - the better Cruz looks.
and let's be honest, if Trump runs his white house anything like he's run this campaign... lol...
convention week has been a clusterfck, with intentional/obvious gaffes drowning out awesome conservative messages.
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Pretty silly to speak in absolutes when talking about political candidates. Obama alienated at least half the country and still won, twice. His "you didn't build that" comment became the theme of the Republican National Convention in 2012. And he still won.
Trump has said some of the most outrageous things ever by a national political candidate. He's the most vile person to ever get this far. And he's winning.
Hillary is a proven, corrupt liar. And she's winning.
But Ted Cruz refused to outright endorse a man who repeatedly called him a liar, attacked his wife, and attacked his father, while at the same time saying exactly what conservatives stand for during his speech, and his career is forever doomed? I don't think so.
I can't recall any of those people being booed off stage at their own parties convention.
Come to think of it, I can't think of any politician being booed off stage a their own parties convention and then returning to be a major force on the big stage.
If Cruz can recover(and he won't) he will have set one helluva precedent.
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How so? Have you seen polls? Who is he running against?
Its 2 years from now and soul crusher is talking out his ass, as I bet he does even better than his first run for Senator.
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Hillary's combined unfavorable rating is 55.1 percent.
Trump's combined unfavorable rating is 59.9 percent.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/clinton_favorableunfavorable-1131.html
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html
The two are completely toxic and are co-dependent on each others' toxicity
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I can't recall any of those people being booed off stage at their own parties convention.
Come to think of it, I can't think of any politician being booed off stage a their own parties convention and then returning to be a major force on the big stage.
If Cruz can recover(and he won't) he will have set one helluva precedent.
I cannot recall a nominee winning with such an enormous anti-nominee vote going into the convention, with a plethora of delegates and people from around the country trying to oust him on the convention floor.
I saw people standing and cheering when Cruz said to vote your conscience and vote for candidates up and down the ticket who defend the Constitution (the horror). The people booing were Trump supporters. Big deal.
This was one moment in time. How it plays out depends on what I already mentioned: people's short memories and Trump's success or failure.
Nobody will be talking about this when the next terrorist attack hits.
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Its 2 years from now and soul crusher is talking out his ass, as I bet he does even better than his first run for Senator.
I doubt that last part but I am pretty sure he will get re-elected.
Trump is pretty popular in Texas and Cruz really helped Hillary more than anything last night. You can imagine how despised she is.
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Come to think of it, I can't think of any politician being booed off stage a their own parties convention and then returning to be a major force on the big stage.
The ones booing were the Trumptards who are idiots to begin with.
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I cannot recall a nominee winning with such an enormous anti-nominee vote going into the convention, with a plethora of delegates and people from around the country trying to oust him on the convention floor.
I saw people standing and cheering when Cruz said to vote your conscience and vote for candidates up and down the ticket who defend the Constitution (the horror). The people booing were Trump supporters. Big deal.
This was one moment in time. How it plays out depends on what I already mentioned: people's short memories and Trump's success or failure.
Nobody will be talking about this when the next terrorist attack hits.
But then again - Romney was toxic to many, just a different group than Trump. The numbers are going to be odd no matter how this flushes out. Hillcunt is toxic as well. Young people dont like her, blacks support her but are not going to race to the polls like they did for Imam Obama. Bernie voters dont seem all that happy either.
So who the F knows at the end of the day.
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Ted Cruz Doubles Down on Trump Endorsement Snub
By Sandy Fitzgerald | Thursday, 21 Jul 2016
Members of Texas' convention delegation grew heated Thursday morning when Sen. Ted Cruz, the morning after he was roundly booed for not endorsing Donald Trump from the Republican National Convention stage, insisted that he didn't say a "single negative word" about the GOP nominee, and he doesn't intend to.
They cheered him when he insisted he won't vote for presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton, but the cheers turned to jeers from many in the room when he would not commit to an endorsement for Trump, while admitting that in part his decision may be personal.
"I am not in the habit of supporting people who attack my wife and attack my father," Cruz told the delegation, referring to Trump's retweeting a post that ridiculed wife Heidi's looks and for Trump insinuating that his father had something to do with the assassination of President John F. Kennedy.
"That pledge was not a blanket commitment that if you go and slander my wife that I am going to come like a servile puppy dog for maligning my wife and maligning my father," he continued.
Some of the delegates continued to applaud Cruz's talking points, but others broke into cheers of "USA, USA," after one of the delegates, Geraldine Sam of Lamarque, Texas, demanded to know why Cruz pledged to support the eventual nominee, but now refuses to do so.
"If you're not a man of your word, what are you, then?" she demanded to know, telling him that she turned her back to him when he walked onto the convention stage, "because you lied to me. And don't take my vote for granted because you lied to me. I came to this convention as a Cruz delegate and I'm leaving supporting Donald Trump as the party nominee. "
Cruz, though, told the delegates that what he said Wednesday and what he is sticking with is encouraging people to vote for leaders who will "do what they say and stand by their principles."
"I assume the Trump campaign wanted me to speak," said Cruz. "They saw my speech several hours before I gave it. They knew exactly what I was going to say. I believe they wanted me to speak because they believed it would encourage people to come out and vote. If they didn't, I was perfectly happy to get on plane and go home."
And, he said he asked conservatives at home and Republicans to go out and vote for "candidates that you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution."
The election, he said, is "about principles and ideals and about standing for what we believe in. And, I have to say, it was somewhat dismaying that apparently some of Donald's biggest partisans, when they heard you should vote for someone you can trust, defend the Constitution, they immediately began booing."
While Cruz would not say if he will vote for Trump, he also insisted he will never cast a vote for presumptive Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.
"I am doing what millions of Americans are doing," he said. "I am watching. I'm listening and the standard that I intend to apply is which candidate I trust to defend our freedom and be faithful to the Constitution."
And Clinton, he said, "fails that test profoundly, and I will note a significant part of my speech last night was laying out the incredible damage of Hillary Clinton's vision."
Cruz said, though, he's watching Trump carefully.
"I've laid out the standard," Cruz told the delegates. "I will be listening to how he and the campaign conducts themselves every day from now until November. That's what I believe the American people will be doing also. The way to win, as I tried with all my might, is not to just scream and yell and attack as traitor anyone that would dare question our candidates."
He said he believes that holding candidates responsible applies to everyone, and he does not intend to "go out and throw rocks at Donald."
"I intend, like a voter, like all of us, just to listen and make the best judgment I can," said Cruz.
"Every one of us has to follow our conscience when friends of mine, supporters of mine are asking what to do. Follow your conscience. Do what you believe is right."
Cruz admitted that there are many options that he could have taken, including to "turn tail" and not go to the convention. "Let me tell you the politically easy option is to stand up and pledge your allegiance. That's the right political outcome . . . I'm not going to lie to you. What I said last night is what I believe."
Cruz also told one of the delegates that moving forward, he'd suggest that Trump listen to his speech to understand how to move forward, as he outlined his criteria in his convention speech.
http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/cruz-trump-convention-speech/2016/07/21/id/739799/#ixzz4F49SZOZX
This is the one time so far that Cruz looks like a decent human being to me.
I'd never vote for the man but at least he acted like a man and not like a sniveling sycophant like virtually every other Republican who listed all the horrible attributes of Trump and then got on their knees to suck his cock hoping he might bestow some job or cabinet position on them
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Trump Used Cruz to Pull Off Unity
July 21, 2016
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RUSH: So I wonder if Ted Cruz is just kicking himself today, saying it would have been better if he'd have just plagiarized the Michelle Obama speech. Maybe he'd be in less trouble if he had done that. So all of you people who complain about how boring these conventions are, how there's never any drama, now you got a little drama, now you got a little unexpected, and everybody's having a cow.
Greetings, my friends. It's great to have you here, Rush Limbaugh behind the Golden EIB Microphone. Our telephone number, if you want to be on the program -- and I know you do -- I know I want to weigh in today. Here's the number: 800-282-2882. And the email address, ElRushbo@eibnet.com.
Okay. One of the crucial things here that we have now learned about this is that Trump knew what Cruz was gonna say. Right? That story has been reported, that Cruz's speech was submitted. Cruz has said that the Trump people knew what he was gonna say. The Trump people say that they knew what Cruz was gonna say. And everybody involved let it happen.
So what is the end result of this? There are two overwhelming, inarguable results from this. Number one, we're gonna have a ratings bonanza tonight. And number two, we may be seeing the actual first threads of unity build behind Donald Trump because of this. And it could well be that Trump has pulled off a masterful move letting all this happen.
I think that the argument that he may have done that is sort of rubber-stamped by the fact that he walked in to that convention hall at the exact moment that he knew Cruz was gonna be unloaded on by the audience. He walked into that convention hall last night to his box at the exact moment that it was gonna become, it did become clear to everybody that Cruz was not gonna endorse.
Now, the key to all this is what has been reported, that everybody involved knew what Cruz was gonna say and thus everybody knew that Cruz was not gonna endorse. Now, I have warned everybody time and time again, you cannot judge, analyze, watch this convention through the regular political prism. In this case, what I mean by that is in a normal convention, that speech would never been allowed.
Ted Cruz, even if he had been invited to give that speech and had submitted that speech to the campaign, and the campaign had seen that speech and discovered that there wasn't gonna be an endorsement. And, in fact, not only was there not gonna be an endorsement, there was gonna be something maybe even worse, and that was an intimation from Ted Cruz that he might not vote for Donald Trump.
There is no other candidate that would allow that speech to be made. There's no other candidate that would allow that type of person, that situation, Cruz, to even appear at the convention. But Trump did. The Trump campaign -- and look, I'm basing all this, just to be clear again, on the fact that everybody's reporting that everybody knew what Cruz was gonna say, and they let it happen. And I'm telling you, no way that happens at a George Bush convention, a Bill Clinton convention, a Hillary Clinton convention.
You think the Clintons are gonna allow Bernie Sanders to go up there and say something without knowing word-for-word what he was gonna say? It would never, ever happen. And if Bernie Sanders was gonna go out there and not endorse Hillary and be ambiguous about it, you think Hillary's gonna let him go out there? There is no way. They'll have Elizabeth Warren hijack him on the way to the convention hall and take him to a Burger King or something and keep him tied up for a couple hours so he can never get there.
It would never happen. But it did happen last night. So now you've got all these analysts trying to figure this out and proclaim the ultimate meaning, and the conventional wisdom is that Cruz is toast, he has just ended his career. Dr. Krauthammer said it perhaps in the most creative way. Dr. Krauthammer said: "It was the longest suicide note I have ever read." Is that not good? (laughing) The longest suicide note I've ever read.
Here's the point, again. Because of that last night, look at all the unity now that is starting to occur for Trump. Look at all the people, including some of the Never Trumpers now coming to Trump's defense. Maybe not coming to Trump's defense, they are unifying with Trump against Cruz. You have some Never Trumpers who are applauding Cruz, but it's a minimal number. He does have his supporters out there. And a lot of his supporters are in the Drive-By Media.
Washington Post: "Ted Cruz Distinguished Himself Wednesday Night. Mike Pence Failed." They love it. They're looking at this the wrong way. They think that what happened was that Ted Cruz hijacked the convention and that nobody heard what Mike Pence said, and they're hoping nobody heard what Pence said because Pence was great. But people did hear what Pence said precisely because Cruz did what he did.
There were more eyeballs focused on and more attention being paid to that convention after what Cruz did, 'cause the media was going bananas, and everybody was talking about it, focusing on what would happen next. (interruption) Well, Newt came out. Newt was great last night. Newt was absolutely great. That speech was on the prompter, but you wouldn't know it. Newt was fabulous. And he came out and he tried to tamp down this Cruz controversy by saying (summarized), "Hey, wait a minute. You people don't understand.
"Cruz endorsed. He just didn't do it in a direct way, but when you're talking about 'voting your conscience,' for crying out loud, there's only one ticket here you can possibly vote for if you vote your conscience, and that's the Trump-Pence Republican ticket!" "Yaaay! Right on, right on!" But I just... I think this is all working out to Trump's advantage in all kinds of different ways, and I think Trump is right there in the middle this.
I don't think this is happenstance. Again, folks... Look, I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I've learned that some things need to be repeated over and over again before they actually connect, and all of my opining here is based on the reporting that everybody knew what Cruz was gonna say and let it happen. If that's not true, then some of my opinionizing here, my opinionating is maybe a little off. But I don't think so, even in that case.
But I'm just saying, again: This would not happen at any other convention. Nine o'clock slot? This is when primetime coverage begins. Cruz is number one, he's not gonna endorse, the Trump campaign knew it. Trump is positioned to come into the hall at the very moment the crowd realizes Cruz is not gonna endorse. You saw those electronic glitches on the giant screen behind Cruz when he wasn't making the endorsement?
Those were not technical glitches. It was done on purpose. The Trump campaign knew. They were already in the process of distracting from Cruz. I mean, Cruz may not have known it, he was backwards to that giant screen, but it went black. It was flashing. It looked like it had DirecTV and there's a lightning storm. It gets pixelated for a while and then it went black. Then a portion of it was black.
It was distracting in and of itself, so much so the TV networks had to cover from a different angle, a side angle where the giant screen JumboTron, whatever it was, was not visible. So Cruz comes out, hijacks the convention from Megyn Kelly -- who had been the number one attraction, someone with nothing to do with it. Cruz comes out, takes care of that, and then focuses attention on himself, which creates all kinds of not sympathy for Trump, but anger.
Because what happened, the party ended up asserting itself last night, the party that was previously in many sectors not all that warmed up to Trump. Some of them still remained a little cool to Trump. Some of those people are now joining the call to get behind the nominee. Cruz did that. Trump set the table and let it happen, knowing full well what Cruz was going to say. And I think it's... To me, it is fascinating to see these kinds of things that are unexpected, because they would never be allowed to happen in any other convention.
Now, Cruz, to prove that he intended to do what he did last night... By the way, Mr. Snerdley before I do that, let me ask you a quick question. Aside from the non-endorsement and the appeal to "vote your conscience," what do you think of the rest of Cruz's speech? (interruption) You did? You thought it was an excellent...? (interruption) Right. He started off tugging the strings of emotion with the children of the dead police and then moving on to the concept of freedom and so forth.
Okay, so Snerdley thinks that aside from the non-endorsement of Trump, it started out and heated up as a pretty good speech. But nobody remembers it now. Now, Cruz today, did you hear what happened after it was over? He tried to get into the skybox, the suite of the casino magnate, Sheldon Adelson, and they wouldn't let him in. They told him to go away. You're not welcome. You can't get in here after doing what you did.
And there was some people on the floor. I think it was just one person, but the Drive-Bys are reporting it that it was a mob. There was one person that shouted at Heidi Cruz, "Goldman Sachs! Goldman Sachs!" as the security had to hustle her out of the arena. But Cruz showed up at the breakfast meeting of the Texas delegation today, and what happened there raised the curtain on what this is all about. Cruz took questions.
The questions from the delegates kept coming. Some of the answers the delegates were not satisfied by. Some of the answers the delegates did not accept. The delegates kept pounding. The delegates kept probing. The delegates kept demanding more from Cruz. The answers he was giving were not satisfactory. They were upset with what had happened. It shouldn't have been the case. They wanted unity out in front.
They were hoping that Cruz would endorse. They wanted the mood to be set. They wanted the continued trend in the uplift direction -- which has been taking place all week -- to a giant crescendo tonight with Trump's speech. And they didn't get it. And it was their guy that made this happen. So they kept asking, and they kept asking, and finally Cruz cannot withhold the truth any longer. Paraphrasing, he said, "You really expect me to be a servile puppy dog to a man who insulted my wife and accused my dad of being part of the JFK assassination?"
And when Cruz said that -- when Cruz told the Texas delegation that he would not be servile, would not be a good puppy dog and support the guy who maligned his wife and father -- then in my mind, he kind of unwound everything else he had said the night before. He just... Under the intense probing of the Texas delegation, he couldn't keep that in any longer, couldn't withhold it any longer.
That question from the Texas delegation lit the fuse that caused the explosion where Ted Cruz finally admitted what that speech last night was all about and why he's not gonna endorse Trump. "Because I don't care..." These are his words, paraphrased by me. "I don't care what the hell else is going on. I am not gonna compromise every damn principle I have and every belief I have and I'm not gonna look the other way at a guy who accused my dad of having something to do with the assassination of JFK.
"I'm not gonna look the other way and pretend it didn't happen to a guy who insulted my wife the way he did." And in doing so, some people applauded. Some people said, "Come on! You gotta put that stuff behind you. It's about beating Hillary now." And he said, "Nope. You can't put that kind of thing behind you, not and maintain your principles and so forth." I thought Cruz might have chosen the wrong occasion and the wrong time to make a stand on principle, but he did it. And here's his gamble.
His gamble is that Trump is gonna lose and that he is going to be viewed in a couple of years as Winston Churchill. You know, Churchill was thrown out of the British government. Nobody wanted to listen to what he had to say, about Hitler or any other number of threats prior to World War II. The Brits were getting complacent. They didn't want to go anywhere. They didn't want to be anywhere. World War I had worn them out. If the rest of the world wanted to burn itself down?
Fine. We're not joining the party.
Churchill said: We can't, because we're gonna be targeted.
They told him to go away, didn't want to hear it. They came back and made him the de facto leader of the war effort after that. Cruz, I'm sure, is banking on that. If Trump loses, that eventually somebody is gonna say, "The only guy... The only guy..." This is what he's hoping. "The only guy that stood up and told us the truth that we didn't want to hear was Ted Cruz." The problem is, Cruz is not Churchill in the sense that he doesn't start out with a lot of love and adoration in the party.
They already despise him for these government shutdowns and what he did to Mitch McConnell and so forth. By the way, the concept of Cruz losing? You wouldn't believe some of what I read. I'm reading some conservative blogs who think that it's inevitable that if Trump wins, he's gonna be impeached, because he's so incompetent. It's gonna be so bad that, to save the country, we're gonna have to impeach the guy. This is also in an opinion piece on what Cruz did last night.
Now, if Trump wins and doesn't lose, that's the gamble that Cruz took with what he's doing, but he intended to do it. The Trump campaign knew he was going to do it; the Trump campaign let it happen. And again, two things: The party is now unifying behind Trump. Maybe not fully, but much more than they were doing so before Cruz spoke last night. You can't deny that. You might want to try, but you can't. And we're gonna have blockbuster eyeballs tuned in to watch this thing tonight. Even more than would have.
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RUSH: Okay, let's quickly go to the audio sound bites. Last night in Cleveland, the Republican National Convention, at Quicken Loans Arena, Ted Cruz.
CRUZ: We deserve leaders who stand for principle, who unite us all behind shared values, who cast aside anger for love. That is the standard we should expect from everybody. And to those listening, please, don't stay home in November. If you love our country and love your children as much as I know that you do, stand and speak and vote your conscience. Vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution. I appreciate the enthusiasm of the New York delegation.
RUSH: That's when it all started. That whole bite there, "We deserve leaders who stand," this is what the audience began to shift in their seats. Because, remember, now, everybody in that hall last night is waiting with bated breath, is Ted Cruz gonna endorse? And when Cruz began the speech, everybody thought, yep, yep, it's coming, it's coming, he's setting it up, it's coming, and they were all jazzed.
And then "we deserve leaders who stand for principle, who unite us all behind shared values, who cast aside anger for love," and that's when doubt began to seep in among the delegates scattered throughout the Quicken Loans Arena. That's when they began to say, "Hm-hm," because they don't think that Cruz thinks of Trump as somebody who stands for principle. "That is the standard we should expect from everybody." They know that Cruz doesn't expect it from Trump because he doesn't think Trump has that standard.
"And to those listening, please don't stay home in November. If you love your country and you love your children as much as I know that you do, stand and speak and vote your conscience. Vote for candidates up and down the." And that's when everybody understood that it wasn't gonna be an endorsement, and that's when they began to turn on Ted Cruz.
The boos and the shouts of, "We want Trump, we want Trump, endorse Trump, endorse Trump," and it didn't happen. He got booed off the stage. Trump emerges from backstage. The cameras spot Trump coming out. The attention shifts dramatically from Ted Cruz, not only in the hall, but on TV because the TV cameras switched from the podium to Trump walking in at just that moment when the crowd figured out that Cruz wasn't going to endorse. Cruz continued speaking.
CRUZ: The case we have to make to the American people, the case each person in this room has to make to the American people is to commit to each of them that we will defend freedom and be faithful to the Constitution. We will unite the party, we will unite the country by standing together for shared values by standing for liberty. God bless each and every one of you, and God bless the United States of America.
RUSH: Now, if you didn't see this, if you didn't see that last night, nobody was listening to Cruz at that point. Everybody was watching Trump come in, everybody was applauding Trump. Whatever enthusiasm you heard, it was not for Cruz. Cruz was being booed. Cruz was just short of being heckled, as he left the stage.
Trump was walking in waving and blowing air kisses all over the place, and the crowd was going nuts. It just appeared to everybody watching that Trump timed his entrance at the exact moment when everybody figured out that Trump was not going to get Cruz's endorsement.
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RUSH: Now, we will never know this, but you remember, Trump arrived in Cleveland yesterday. Remember how Trump arrived? Cruz is out doing a rally, and in the middle of his rally they hear the noise of jet engines unusually low, and in the middle of Cruz's speech the audience, the crowd looks up, and, my God, there it is, Trump Force One.
Trump Force One, whether by accident or by design, is buzzing the Ted Cruz campaign event, and even Cruz was forced to say, "Man, you talk about good timing." And Trump's jet engines drowned out -- now, we will never know if this irritated Cruz or whether he thought it was just funny, but you throw it in the mix.
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The ones booing were the Trumptards who are idiots to begin with.
This is why you can't have rational political discussions.
People get far too emotional ^^
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Rush is the master of magically seeing a win in everything.
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But then again - Romney was toxic to many, just a different group than Trump. The numbers are going to be odd no matter how this flushes out. Hillcunt is toxic as well. Young people dont like her, blacks support her but are not going to race to the polls like they did for Imam Obama. Bernie voters dont seem all that happy either.
So who the F knows at the end of the day.
I wouldn't put Romney in the toxic category. The worst he did was make a few ill-advised comments. He is a decent, incredibly successful man.
He was polarizing, but every Republican nominee is polarizing to liberals.
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This is why you can't have rational political discussions.
People get far too emotional ^^
I am voting for Trump (go back and read most of my post in support of Trump over the last 2 months)
Cruz was my first choice, but he is out, the people have spoken, so I am on the Trump Train now as he is the better of the 2 bad choices, but that doesn't mean I am a Trumptard who follows him with my eyes closed (like the lib's do with obama) and I applaud Cruz for what he did considering the lies Trump said about his wife and father.
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I am voting for Trump (go back and read most of my post in support of Trump over the last 2 months)
Cruz was my first choice, but he is out, the people have spoken, so I am on the Trump Train now as he is the better of the 2 bad choices, but that doesn't mean I am a Trumptard who follows him with my eyes closed (like the lib's do with obama) and I applaud Cruz for what he did considering the lies Trump said about his wife and father.
At this point in the game it should be all about beating Hillary. Period.
Not about Ted's hurt feelings or future political ambitions.
Very selfish act by him in light of where the GOP sits right now. That is my main gripe.
That plus I simply do not think he can win a general election at this point.
The Evangelical base is dwindling and he couldn't even beat Trump in the south when it came to that.
Trump is a contender. Cruz is a tomato.
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"Vote your conscience, vote the constitution"
Equals
"Cruz is a traitor!!!!!"
That's what's wrong with the US.
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At this point in the game it should be all about beating Hillary. Period.
Not about Ted's hurt feelings or future political ambitions.
Very selfish act by him in light of where the GOP sits right now. That is my main gripe.
That plus I simply do not think he can win a general election at this point.
The Evangelical base is dwindling and he couldn't even beat Trump in the south when it came to that.
Trump is a contender. Cruz is a tomato.
I applaud Cruz for what he did considering the lies Trump said about his father and wife.
Trump approved the speech, and the whole thing was a set up by Trump (the yelling and attacking of Cruz) and you fell for it.
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"Vote your conscience, vote the constitution"
Equals
"Cruz is a traitor!!!!!"
That's what's wrong with the US.
Or vote Democrat and get free shit.
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Trump Used Cruz to Pull Off Unity
July 21, 2016
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RUSH: So I wonder if Ted Cruz is just kicking himself today, saying it would have been better if he'd have just plagiarized the Michelle Obama speech. Maybe he'd be in less trouble if he had done that. So all of you people who complain about how boring these conventions are, how there's never any drama, now you got a little drama, now you got a little unexpected, and everybody's having a cow.
Greetings, my friends. It's great to have you here, Rush Limbaugh behind the Golden EIB Microphone. Our telephone number, if you want to be on the program -- and I know you do -- I know I want to weigh in today. Here's the number: 800-282-2882. And the email address, ElRushbo@eibnet.com.
Okay. One of the crucial things here that we have now learned about this is that Trump knew what Cruz was gonna say. Right? That story has been reported, that Cruz's speech was submitted. Cruz has said that the Trump people knew what he was gonna say. The Trump people say that they knew what Cruz was gonna say. And everybody involved let it happen.
So what is the end result of this? There are two overwhelming, inarguable results from this. Number one, we're gonna have a ratings bonanza tonight. And number two, we may be seeing the actual first threads of unity build behind Donald Trump because of this. And it could well be that Trump has pulled off a masterful move letting all this happen.
I think that the argument that he may have done that is sort of rubber-stamped by the fact that he walked in to that convention hall at the exact moment that he knew Cruz was gonna be unloaded on by the audience. He walked into that convention hall last night to his box at the exact moment that it was gonna become, it did become clear to everybody that Cruz was not gonna endorse.
Now, the key to all this is what has been reported, that everybody involved knew what Cruz was gonna say and thus everybody knew that Cruz was not gonna endorse. Now, I have warned everybody time and time again, you cannot judge, analyze, watch this convention through the regular political prism. In this case, what I mean by that is in a normal convention, that speech would never been allowed.
Ted Cruz, even if he had been invited to give that speech and had submitted that speech to the campaign, and the campaign had seen that speech and discovered that there wasn't gonna be an endorsement. And, in fact, not only was there not gonna be an endorsement, there was gonna be something maybe even worse, and that was an intimation from Ted Cruz that he might not vote for Donald Trump.
There is no other candidate that would allow that speech to be made. There's no other candidate that would allow that type of person, that situation, Cruz, to even appear at the convention. But Trump did. The Trump campaign -- and look, I'm basing all this, just to be clear again, on the fact that everybody's reporting that everybody knew what Cruz was gonna say, and they let it happen. And I'm telling you, no way that happens at a George Bush convention, a Bill Clinton convention, a Hillary Clinton convention.
You think the Clintons are gonna allow Bernie Sanders to go up there and say something without knowing word-for-word what he was gonna say? It would never, ever happen. And if Bernie Sanders was gonna go out there and not endorse Hillary and be ambiguous about it, you think Hillary's gonna let him go out there? There is no way. They'll have Elizabeth Warren hijack him on the way to the convention hall and take him to a Burger King or something and keep him tied up for a couple hours so he can never get there.
It would never happen. But it did happen last night. So now you've got all these analysts trying to figure this out and proclaim the ultimate meaning, and the conventional wisdom is that Cruz is toast, he has just ended his career. Dr. Krauthammer said it perhaps in the most creative way. Dr. Krauthammer said: "It was the longest suicide note I have ever read." Is that not good? (laughing) The longest suicide note I've ever read.
Here's the point, again. Because of that last night, look at all the unity now that is starting to occur for Trump. Look at all the people, including some of the Never Trumpers now coming to Trump's defense. Maybe not coming to Trump's defense, they are unifying with Trump against Cruz. You have some Never Trumpers who are applauding Cruz, but it's a minimal number. He does have his supporters out there. And a lot of his supporters are in the Drive-By Media.
Washington Post: "Ted Cruz Distinguished Himself Wednesday Night. Mike Pence Failed." They love it. They're looking at this the wrong way. They think that what happened was that Ted Cruz hijacked the convention and that nobody heard what Mike Pence said, and they're hoping nobody heard what Pence said because Pence was great. But people did hear what Pence said precisely because Cruz did what he did.
There were more eyeballs focused on and more attention being paid to that convention after what Cruz did, 'cause the media was going bananas, and everybody was talking about it, focusing on what would happen next. (interruption) Well, Newt came out. Newt was great last night. Newt was absolutely great. That speech was on the prompter, but you wouldn't know it. Newt was fabulous. And he came out and he tried to tamp down this Cruz controversy by saying (summarized), "Hey, wait a minute. You people don't understand.
"Cruz endorsed. He just didn't do it in a direct way, but when you're talking about 'voting your conscience,' for crying out loud, there's only one ticket here you can possibly vote for if you vote your conscience, and that's the Trump-Pence Republican ticket!" "Yaaay! Right on, right on!" But I just... I think this is all working out to Trump's advantage in all kinds of different ways, and I think Trump is right there in the middle this.
I don't think this is happenstance. Again, folks... Look, I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but I've learned that some things need to be repeated over and over again before they actually connect, and all of my opining here is based on the reporting that everybody knew what Cruz was gonna say and let it happen. If that's not true, then some of my opinionizing here, my opinionating is maybe a little off. But I don't think so, even in that case.
But I'm just saying, again: This would not happen at any other convention. Nine o'clock slot? This is when primetime coverage begins. Cruz is number one, he's not gonna endorse, the Trump campaign knew it. Trump is positioned to come into the hall at the very moment the crowd realizes Cruz is not gonna endorse. You saw those electronic glitches on the giant screen behind Cruz when he wasn't making the endorsement?
Those were not technical glitches. It was done on purpose. The Trump campaign knew. They were already in the process of distracting from Cruz. I mean, Cruz may not have known it, he was backwards to that giant screen, but it went black. It was flashing. It looked like it had DirecTV and there's a lightning storm. It gets pixelated for a while and then it went black. Then a portion of it was black.
It was distracting in and of itself, so much so the TV networks had to cover from a different angle, a side angle where the giant screen JumboTron, whatever it was, was not visible. So Cruz comes out, hijacks the convention from Megyn Kelly -- who had been the number one attraction, someone with nothing to do with it. Cruz comes out, takes care of that, and then focuses attention on himself, which creates all kinds of not sympathy for Trump, but anger.
Because what happened, the party ended up asserting itself last night, the party that was previously in many sectors not all that warmed up to Trump. Some of them still remained a little cool to Trump. Some of those people are now joining the call to get behind the nominee. Cruz did that. Trump set the table and let it happen, knowing full well what Cruz was going to say. And I think it's... To me, it is fascinating to see these kinds of things that are unexpected, because they would never be allowed to happen in any other convention.
Now, Cruz, to prove that he intended to do what he did last night... By the way, Mr. Snerdley before I do that, let me ask you a quick question. Aside from the non-endorsement and the appeal to "vote your conscience," what do you think of the rest of Cruz's speech? (interruption) You did? You thought it was an excellent...? (interruption) Right. He started off tugging the strings of emotion with the children of the dead police and then moving on to the concept of freedom and so forth.
Okay, so Snerdley thinks that aside from the non-endorsement of Trump, it started out and heated up as a pretty good speech. But nobody remembers it now. Now, Cruz today, did you hear what happened after it was over? He tried to get into the skybox, the suite of the casino magnate, Sheldon Adelson, and they wouldn't let him in. They told him to go away. You're not welcome. You can't get in here after doing what you did.
And there was some people on the floor. I think it was just one person, but the Drive-Bys are reporting it that it was a mob. There was one person that shouted at Heidi Cruz, "Goldman Sachs! Goldman Sachs!" as the security had to hustle her out of the arena. But Cruz showed up at the breakfast meeting of the Texas delegation today, and what happened there raised the curtain on what this is all about. Cruz took questions.
The questions from the delegates kept coming. Some of the answers the delegates were not satisfied by. Some of the answers the delegates did not accept. The delegates kept pounding. The delegates kept probing. The delegates kept demanding more from Cruz. The answers he was giving were not satisfactory. They were upset with what had happened. It shouldn't have been the case. They wanted unity out in front.
They were hoping that Cruz would endorse. They wanted the mood to be set. They wanted the continued trend in the uplift direction -- which has been taking place all week -- to a giant crescendo tonight with Trump's speech. And they didn't get it. And it was their guy that made this happen. So they kept asking, and they kept asking, and finally Cruz cannot withhold the truth any longer. Paraphrasing, he said, "You really expect me to be a servile puppy dog to a man who insulted my wife and accused my dad of being part of the JFK assassination?"
And when Cruz said that -- when Cruz told the Texas delegation that he would not be servile, would not be a good puppy dog and support the guy who maligned his wife and father -- then in my mind, he kind of unwound everything else he had said the night before. He just... Under the intense probing of the Texas delegation, he couldn't keep that in any longer, couldn't withhold it any longer.
That question from the Texas delegation lit the fuse that caused the explosion where Ted Cruz finally admitted what that speech last night was all about and why he's not gonna endorse Trump. "Because I don't care..." These are his words, paraphrased by me. "I don't care what the hell else is going on. I am not gonna compromise every damn principle I have and every belief I have and I'm not gonna look the other way at a guy who accused my dad of having something to do with the assassination of JFK.
"I'm not gonna look the other way and pretend it didn't happen to a guy who insulted my wife the way he did." And in doing so, some people applauded. Some people said, "Come on! You gotta put that stuff behind you. It's about beating Hillary now." And he said, "Nope. You can't put that kind of thing behind you, not and maintain your principles and so forth." I thought Cruz might have chosen the wrong occasion and the wrong time to make a stand on principle, but he did it. And here's his gamble.
His gamble is that Trump is gonna lose and that he is going to be viewed in a couple of years as Winston Churchill. You know, Churchill was thrown out of the British government. Nobody wanted to listen to what he had to say, about Hitler or any other number of threats prior to World War II. The Brits were getting complacent. They didn't want to go anywhere. They didn't want to be anywhere. World War I had worn them out. If the rest of the world wanted to burn itself down?
Fine. We're not joining the party.
Churchill said: We can't, because we're gonna be targeted.
They told him to go away, didn't want to hear it. They came back and made him the de facto leader of the war effort after that. Cruz, I'm sure, is banking on that. If Trump loses, that eventually somebody is gonna say, "The only guy... The only guy..." This is what he's hoping. "The only guy that stood up and told us the truth that we didn't want to hear was Ted Cruz." The problem is, Cruz is not Churchill in the sense that he doesn't start out with a lot of love and adoration in the party.
They already despise him for these government shutdowns and what he did to Mitch McConnell and so forth. By the way, the concept of Cruz losing? You wouldn't believe some of what I read. I'm reading some conservative blogs who think that it's inevitable that if Trump wins, he's gonna be impeached, because he's so incompetent. It's gonna be so bad that, to save the country, we're gonna have to impeach the guy. This is also in an opinion piece on what Cruz did last night.
Now, if Trump wins and doesn't lose, that's the gamble that Cruz took with what he's doing, but he intended to do it. The Trump campaign knew he was going to do it; the Trump campaign let it happen. And again, two things: The party is now unifying behind Trump. Maybe not fully, but much more than they were doing so before Cruz spoke last night. You can't deny that. You might want to try, but you can't. And we're gonna have blockbuster eyeballs tuned in to watch this thing tonight. Even more than would have.
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RUSH: Okay, let's quickly go to the audio sound bites. Last night in Cleveland, the Republican National Convention, at Quicken Loans Arena, Ted Cruz.
CRUZ: We deserve leaders who stand for principle, who unite us all behind shared values, who cast aside anger for love. That is the standard we should expect from everybody. And to those listening, please, don't stay home in November. If you love our country and love your children as much as I know that you do, stand and speak and vote your conscience. Vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution. I appreciate the enthusiasm of the New York delegation.
RUSH: That's when it all started. That whole bite there, "We deserve leaders who stand," this is what the audience began to shift in their seats. Because, remember, now, everybody in that hall last night is waiting with bated breath, is Ted Cruz gonna endorse? And when Cruz began the speech, everybody thought, yep, yep, it's coming, it's coming, he's setting it up, it's coming, and they were all jazzed.
And then "we deserve leaders who stand for principle, who unite us all behind shared values, who cast aside anger for love," and that's when doubt began to seep in among the delegates scattered throughout the Quicken Loans Arena. That's when they began to say, "Hm-hm," because they don't think that Cruz thinks of Trump as somebody who stands for principle. "That is the standard we should expect from everybody." They know that Cruz doesn't expect it from Trump because he doesn't think Trump has that standard.
"And to those listening, please don't stay home in November. If you love your country and you love your children as much as I know that you do, stand and speak and vote your conscience. Vote for candidates up and down the." And that's when everybody understood that it wasn't gonna be an endorsement, and that's when they began to turn on Ted Cruz.
The boos and the shouts of, "We want Trump, we want Trump, endorse Trump, endorse Trump," and it didn't happen. He got booed off the stage. Trump emerges from backstage. The cameras spot Trump coming out. The attention shifts dramatically from Ted Cruz, not only in the hall, but on TV because the TV cameras switched from the podium to Trump walking in at just that moment when the crowd figured out that Cruz wasn't going to endorse. Cruz continued speaking.
CRUZ: The case we have to make to the American people, the case each person in this room has to make to the American people is to commit to each of them that we will defend freedom and be faithful to the Constitution. We will unite the party, we will unite the country by standing together for shared values by standing for liberty. God bless each and every one of you, and God bless the United States of America.
RUSH: Now, if you didn't see this, if you didn't see that last night, nobody was listening to Cruz at that point. Everybody was watching Trump come in, everybody was applauding Trump. Whatever enthusiasm you heard, it was not for Cruz. Cruz was being booed. Cruz was just short of being heckled, as he left the stage.
Trump was walking in waving and blowing air kisses all over the place, and the crowd was going nuts. It just appeared to everybody watching that Trump timed his entrance at the exact moment when everybody figured out that Trump was not going to get Cruz's endorsement.
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RUSH: Now, we will never know this, but you remember, Trump arrived in Cleveland yesterday. Remember how Trump arrived? Cruz is out doing a rally, and in the middle of his rally they hear the noise of jet engines unusually low, and in the middle of Cruz's speech the audience, the crowd looks up, and, my God, there it is, Trump Force One.
Trump Force One, whether by accident or by design, is buzzing the Ted Cruz campaign event, and even Cruz was forced to say, "Man, you talk about good timing." And Trump's jet engines drowned out -- now, we will never know if this irritated Cruz or whether he thought it was just funny, but you throw it in the mix.
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Trump served a dish of crap just like what Obama and other libs do and most of the trumptards ate it up and fell right in line attacking and smearing Cruz. (like most of you on here today) no different than what libtards do. Alinsky would be proud of you all.
All idiots, everyone of you got played and ate it up (except Dos Equis)
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Trump approved the speech, and the whole thing was a set up by Trump (the yelling and attacking of Cruz) and you fell for it.
In a way that set up could help to unify the party.
Cruz isn't too liked inside the beltway and I read some of the off the record comments from his peers after he pulled that little stunt. They were not too thrilled as you can imagine.
If Trump was able to set that up with that intention in mind then kudos to him.
Remember, it's all about beating Hillary.
In the end, Cruz wasn't good enough to take the prize. Trump was.
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"Vote your conscience, vote the constitution"
Equals
"Cruz is a traitor!!!!!"
That's what's wrong with the US.
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In a way that set up could help to unify the party.
Cruz isn't too liked inside the beltway and I read some of the off the record comments from his peers after he pulled that little stunt. They were not too thrilled as you can imagine.
If Trump was able to set that up with that intention in mind then kudos to him.
Remember, it's all about beating Hillary.
In the end, Cruz wasn't good enough to take the prize. Trump was.
I wont defend lies and attacks, and I wont admire it either, unlike the trumptards and libtards do. What Trump did was wrong, zero integrity in smearing Cruz's wife and father with lies, and what trump did last night was just another planned smear job, and you and others fell for it.
I am still voting for Trump because he is the better of the 2 bad choices.
I admire Cruz, and more people should be like him.
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I damn sure respect the hell out of Cruz now. He's creepy but he's super convicted.
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He's powerhungry, certainly. Shows he's either pound-dumb or he's about 100% sure that, one way or another, Trump will be a fail.
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As for the thing with Cruz from earlier in thread, I think it's true he was ready to up the dose with that theory. His reasoning, at least at that time, was about Trump knocking him out "for Hillary". IOW, that people known to be Hillary backers were advising Trump in his battles with Cruz.
No other way to see it, but that Cruz was ready to move with the theory up to some point.
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Cruz Gave The Speech Of His Life In The Lion’s Den
In front of a packed Republican National Convention, former presidential candidate Ted Cruz gave the people of the United States the speech of a lifetime.
He did it without compromising his principles, spoke nary a word of endorsing Republican nominee Donald Trump, and refused to back down when the fickle attendees turned against him. Pressured to cave to the demands of submission, Cruz didn’t blink.
This speech was only a surprise for those who haven’t paid attention to Cruz’s track record. For those who have, this speech was a simple but powerful affirmation of his character. His history has been well-known for some time, yet many found it surprising. Those in attendance clapped and cheered when Cruz congratulated Trump, and holistic stances of the party were received well enough.
But when it came time for Cruz to make his mark, the crowd became negatively charged. However, they had a lot of help from the Trump campaign, who actively whipped the crowd up when he refused to endorse the Republican nominee. Cruz’s statement for people to “vote your conscience,” while bold, was also neutral. Yet, it wasn’t what the crowd wanted to hear — what they wanted was nothing less than complete submission. And it got so ugly that Cruz’s wife and father, Heidi and Rafael, needed a security escort out of the convention.
An already animated crowd saw and heard a man stare them down and refuse to bow to pressure. That’s a difficult thing to come to grips with. Character can be a terrifying trait for those devoid of it or blinded by rage. Cruz owned the stage in the midst of contrived boos. If anything, he should wear them as a badge of honor because he held true to his convictions regardless of the consequences.
After the months of attacks on Cruz’s family from the Trump campaign, Cruz refused to reciprocate. Now, the vast majority expected him to play ball. It’s just politics and now it’s time for everyone to come together; forget the past. This speech wasn’t a surprise to the Trump campaign. They knew in advance what Cruz would say, and it had earned the approval of Trump. Yet, from the looks on the faces of Trump’s family mid-speech, it was evident that they were not thrilled.
Their actions ultimately come across as petty. Cruz never asked to speak at the convention. He was invited by Trump and without the requirement of an endorsement — though some of Cruz’s aids did make a last-ditch effort to get him to change his mind, and as a way to prevent Cruz’s name from being put up for nomination. Still, to go through the trouble of booking the Texas senator for a speaking slot only to whip up the crowd intentionally is despicable and disgraceful.
Cruz was honorable enough to congratulate Trump, while at the same time placing beliefs first. Principles over party played out. There is no pledge to honor when the party itself has abandoned the very foundations that they’ve sworn to uphold. Cruz didn’t bash Trump. He didn’t call for delegates to vote for him. There were no pleas for one last shot. Rather, he asked that the party return to the Constitution, and remain faithful to one’s own convictions.
Cruz’s speech may not have gone over well with those who’ve already feigned blind allegiance to Trump. But for the American people watching at home, it was a glimpse of something sorely needed. Cruz accepted a prime-time speaking platform with a known risk of reprisal, and then he marched right in and did not flinch. Instead, he dared those in attendance and watching on TV to be better.
Ted Cruz may have grabbed hold of the conservative mantle for the future, or he may have hurt his chances in 2020. Who knows. But by refusing to endorse Trump on the largest platform of the year, Cruz maintained his dignity without sacrificing what he believes in. And in doing so, he captivated America and stared down the lion’s den of the RNC.
http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/cruz-gave-the-speech-of-his-life-in-the-lions-den/
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Cruz Gave The Speech Of His Life In The Lion’s Den
n front of a packed Republican National Convention, former presidential candidate Ted Cruz gave the people of the United States the speech of a lifetime.
He did it without compromising his principles, spoke nary a word of endorsing Republican nominee Donald Trump, and refused to back down when the fickle attendees turned against him. Pressured to cave to the demands of submission, Cruz didn’t blink.
This speech was only a surprise for those who haven’t paid attention to Cruz’s track record. For those who have, this speech was a simple but powerful affirmation of his character. His history has been well-known for some time, yet many found it surprising. Those in attendance clapped and cheered when Cruz congratulated Trump, and holistic stances of the party were received well enough.
But when it came time for Cruz to make his mark, the crowd became negatively charged. However, they had a lot of help from the Trump campaign, who actively whipped the crowd up when he refused to endorse the Republican nominee. Cruz’s statement for people to “vote your conscience,” while bold, was also neutral. Yet, it wasn’t what the crowd wanted to hear — what they wanted was nothing less than complete submission. And it got so ugly that Cruz’s wife and father, Heidi and Rafael, needed a security escort out of the convention.
An already animated crowd saw and heard a man stare them down and refuse to bow to pressure. That’s a difficult thing to come to grips with. Character can be a terrifying trait for those devoid of it or blinded by rage. Cruz owned the stage in the midst of contrived boos. If anything, he should wear them as a badge of honor because he held true to his convictions regardless of the consequences.
After the months of attacks on Cruz’s family from the Trump campaign, Cruz refused to reciprocate. Now, the vast majority expected him to play ball. It’s just politics and now it’s time for everyone to come together; forget the past. This speech wasn’t a surprise to the Trump campaign. They knew in advance what Cruz would say, and it had earned the approval of Trump. Yet, from the looks on the faces of Trump’s family mid-speech, it was evident that they were not thrilled.
Their actions ultimately come across as petty. Cruz never asked to speak at the convention. He was invited by Trump and without the requirement of an endorsement — though some of Cruz’s aids did make a last-ditch effort to get him to change his mind, and as a way to prevent Cruz’s name from being put up for nomination. Still, to go through the trouble of booking the Texas senator for a speaking slot only to whip up the crowd intentionally is despicable and disgraceful.
Cruz was honorable enough to congratulate Trump, while at the same time placing beliefs first. Principles over party played out. There is no pledge to honor when the party itself has abandoned the very foundations that they’ve sworn to uphold. Cruz didn’t bash Trump. He didn’t call for delegates to vote for him. There were no pleas for one last shot. Rather, he asked that the party return to the Constitution, and remain faithful to one’s own convictions.
Cruz’s speech may not have gone over well with those who’ve already feigned blind allegiance to Trump. But for the American people watching at home, it was a glimpse of something sorely needed. Cruz accepted a prime-time speaking platform with a known risk of reprisal, and then he marched right in and did not flinch. Instead, he dared those in attendance and watching on TV to be better.
Ted Cruz may have grabbed hold of the conservative mantle for the future, or he may have hurt his chances in 2020. Who knows. But by refusing to endorse Trump on the largest platform of the year, Cruz maintained his dignity without sacrificing what he believes in. And in doing so, he captivated America and stared down the lion’s den of the RNC.
http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/cruz-gave-the-speech-of-his-life-in-the-lions-den/
Good commentary. Completely agree.
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The crowd applauds trump loyalty.
the crowd boos loyalty to the constitution.
They refuse to admit Trump's proposing a shitload of things that aren't constitutional.
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Trump approved of Cruz's speech before hand and had his goons in the audience to begin the yells at Cruz at just the right moment, knowing many other trumptard delegates would follow suit, it was all planned, Trump served a dish of shit last night, just like what Obama and other libs do and most of the trumptards ate it up and fell right in line attacking and smearing Cruz. (like most of you on here today did) no different than what libtards do.
Alinsky would be proud of you all.
All idiots, everyone of you on here got played and ate it up (except Dos Equis)
Some trumptards even verbally assaulted Cruz's wife and father in the audience:
http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/20/heidi-and-rafael-cruz-rushed-off-floor-as-trump-supporters-become-angry-over-sen-cruzs-non-endorsement/
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Good commentary. Completely agree.
truth
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Apparently Cruz showing balls and integrity is what it takes for republicans to turn against him.
James and Dos exluded. They can actually think for themselves.
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I would vote for Cruz tomorrow!
Good to see his conviction. Fuck anyone who has a problem with a man standing up for his FAMILY.
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I would vote for Cruz tomorrow!
Good to see his conviction. Fuck anyone who has a problem with a man standing up for his FAMILY.
This^^^
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This^^^
He is not standing up for anything but his couching himself for a run in 2020. This is politics.
At least he is doing that though - unlike Bernie who is making a complete ass of himself in front of his die hards.
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He is not standing up for anything but his couching himself for a run in 2020. This is politics.
At least he is doing that though - unlike Bernie who is making a complete ass of himself in front of his die hards.
I call bullshit on your statement there.
Trump talked about his wife... tried to break up his MARRIAGE for the sake of "politics".
Cruz just did what NONE of the others did... He stood up for himself and didn't cower to the horrible person that is Trump.
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I call bullshit on your statement there.
Trump talked about his wife... tried to break up his MARRIAGE for the sake of "politics".
Cruz just did what NONE of the others did... He stood up for himself and didn't cower to the horrible person that is Trump.
I agree - jeb, rubio, kasich, etc were pussies
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Cruz put his own petty ass self over the nation.
And let's not forget he paraded around his young daughters at one point -- trying to seek gain before, during, and after doing it.
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Cruz put his own petty ass self over the nation.
And let's not forget he paraded around his young daughters at one point -- trying to seek gain before, during, and after doing it.
Bullshit on this too.
Petty ass self? Are you not worried about yourself?
Would you let a person sit there and talk about your fucking wife? Family? Just take it? Honestly?
You would be totally fine with that "for the nation"?
Trump wasn't talking policies here... He was talking about him AND his family as a PERSON. On a personal, not policy based level.
No way in hell would I let that go.
Cruz did right.
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Bullshit on this too.
Petty ass self? Are you not worried about yourself?
Would you let a person sit there and talk about your fucking wife? Family? Just take it? Honestly?
You would be totally fine with that "for the nation"?
Trump wasn't talking policies here... He was talking about him AND his family as a PERSON. On a personal, not policy based level.
No way in hell would I let that go.
Cruz did right.
No, I'm fine with him 'protecting' his family if his limp-wristed self is up to it. But keep that shit off the convention stage.
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I call bullshit on your statement there.
Trump talked about his wife... tried to break up his MARRIAGE for the sake of "politics".
Cruz just did what NONE of the others did... He stood up for himself and didn't cower to the horrible person that is Trump.
The whole wife thing started with Liz Mair's anti-Trump super PAC posting a picture of Trump's wife.
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The whole wife thing started with Liz Mair's anti-Trump super PAC posting a picture of Trump's wife.
What's that got to do with Cruz?
Did Ted Cruz do something? Did he SAY something about Trump's wife?
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No, I'm fine with him 'protecting' his family if his limp-wristed self is up to it. But keep that shit off the convention stage.
Trump was the person that thought he had Cruz in the bag. He's the one who thought it was cool to talk about his family and then put him on the stage right?
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I'll never forget Cruz being trapped in his lies about immigration. The guy was busted dead to rights.
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Trump was the person that thought he had Cruz in the bag. He's the one who thought it was cool to talk about his family and then put him on the stage right?
Yes, all the more to worry about.
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What's that got to do with Cruz?
Did Ted Cruz do something? Did he SAY something about Trump's wife?
Please read the post again. The action of that super PAC sparked the wife attack marathon.
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Please read the post again. The action of that super PAC sparked the wife attack marathon.
I read it correctly the first time.
What does that have to do with Cruz?
Trump went after Cruz's wife personally. He himself. What does what a SuperPac do have to do with Cruz?
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I read it correctly the first time.
What does that have to do with Cruz?
Trump went after Cruz's wife personally. He himself. What does what a SuperPac do have to do with Cruz?
Please read the post again. It says anti Trump super PAC. No mention of Cruz.
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Please read the post again. It says anti Trump super PAC. No mention of Cruz.
Again, so what does it have to do with Cruz?
Why would Trump directly go after Cruz's family because of what a Superpac did?
I don't think you're getting my point here and that's fine.
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I know one thing. Cruz shouldn't have ever introduced his girls into doing political ads. Wtf is wrong with him.
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I know one thing. Cruz shouldn't have ever introduced his girls into doing political ads. Wtf is wrong with him.
This is a valid point. Not sure why he would do that except to try to seem like a good family guy.
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Trump was the person that thought he had Cruz in the bag. He's the one who thought it was cool to talk about his family and then put him on the stage right?
trump is running a campaign of chaos. I suspect he went mad years ago.
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Again, so what does it have to do with Cruz?
Why would Trump directly go after Cruz's family because of what a Superpac did?
I don't think you're getting my point here and that's fine.
The wife insult marathon was sparked by the action of Liz Mair's anti-Trump super PAC. I don't care what Trump did or thought of the super PAC or its links.
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The wife insult marathon was sparked by the action of Liz Mair's anti-Trump super PAC. I don't care what Trump did or thought of the super PAC or its links.
I get what you're saying, but that has absolutely nothing to do with Trump saying what HE said.
Two wrongs don't make a right, and Trump specifically saying what he said about Cruz's wife and family is absolutely fucking wrong and I don't blame Cruz for tossing the middle finger at him.
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I get what you're saying, but that has absolutely nothing to do with Trump saying what HE said.
Two wrongs don't make a right, and Trump specifically saying what he said about Cruz's wife and family is absolutely fucking wrong and I don't blame Cruz for tossing the middle finger at him.
Trump implied the super PAC was supported by Cruz or that Cruz had foreknowledge about (or even guided) the super PAC's actions. Cruz, as expected, denied any involvement. Trump then retweeted someone else's picture comparing the two wives and also tweeted about "spilling the beans" on Cruz's wife. Then the whole National Enquirer farce.
I still think Cruz is a slimy religious hypocrite.
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Trump implied the super PAC was supported by Cruz or that Cruz had foreknowledge about (or even guided) the super PAC's actions. Cruz, as expected, denied any involvement. Trump then retweeted someone else's picture comparing the two wives and also tweeted about "spilling the beans" on Cruz's wife. Then the whole National Enquirer farce.
I still think Cruz is a slimy religious hypocrite.
This may be true, but on no level does Trump have any right to do what he did. His "belief" isn't good enough for me here.
If anything, I commend Cruz in standing up for his family.
Slimy religious hypocrite, possibly... At least I know he won't take getting bufu'd by Trump and still support him. Compared to say a Rubio or a Christie.
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This may be true, but on no level does Trump have any right to do what he did. His "belief" isn't good enough for me here.
If anything, I commend Cruz in standing up for his family.
Slimy religious hypocrite, possibly... At least I know he won't take getting bufu'd by Trump and still support him. Compared to say a Rubio or a Christie.
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Cruz is just such a weenie, I swear.
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How upset do you think Christie is that he didn't get picked to be the running mate when he was the first one to cross over to him?
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How upset do you think Christie is that he didn't get picked to be the running mate when he was the first one to cross over to him?
Christie ridiculed himself by acting as Trump's lapdog and Trump treated him like an obsequious jester. If Christie is upset now, he has no one to blame but himself. But dignity is a virtue that is not usually compatible with politics.
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Christie ridiculed himself by acting as Trump's lapdog and Trump treated him like an obsequious jester. If Christie is upset now, he has no one to blame but himself. But dignity is a virtue that is not usually compatible with politics.
That's a shame isn't it.
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Fat Man is probably going to get a cabinet post or at least be part of Trump's administration, if Trump wins.
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Fat Man is probably going to get a cabinet post or at least be part of Trump's administration, if Trump wins.
What if Trump wins and he gets nothing?!
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What if Trump wins and he gets nothing?!
Would be pretty humiliating.