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Title: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 19, 2016, 04:55:23 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/18/shock-poll-trumps-black-support-grows-6x-after-milwaukee-appeal/

Trump made his most direct play for African-American support in the campaign:

    We reject the bigotry of Hillary Clinton which panders to and talks down to communities of color and sees them only as votes, not as individual human beings worthy of a better future. She doesn’t care at all about the hurting people of this country, or the suffering she has caused them. The African-American community has been taken for granted for decades by the Democratic Party. It’s time to break with the failures of the past – I want to offer Americans a new future.

Trump took that straight on:

    The main victims of these riots are law-abiding African-American citizens living in these neighborhoods. It is their jobs, their homes, their schools and communities which will suffer as a result. There is no compassion in tolerating lawless conduct. Crime and violence is an attack on the poor, and will never be accepted in a Trump Administration.

"You live in poverty," he said. "Your schools are no good. You have no jobs. What the hell do you have to lose?"

Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 19, 2016, 05:04:32 PM
Trump scores, Hillary snores.  She's napping cause she's withered.  And the polls are all tightening and within the MoE.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 19, 2016, 05:37:52 PM
About a month ago it was reported as Trump getting "0%" among AAs in Pennsylvania and Ohio.  Would be so cool if he'd beat Hillary to them like she did to Bernie. 

Maybe a lttle risky on the comments, but "what do you have to lose?" could be damn good.  Trump himself doesn't have much to lose by saying that, when it comes down to it.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 19, 2016, 05:43:47 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/18/shock-poll-trumps-black-support-grows-6x-after-milwaukee-appeal/

Trump made his most direct play for African-American support in the campaign:

    We reject the bigotry of Hillary Clinton which panders to and talks down to communities of color and sees them only as votes, not as individual human beings worthy of a better future. She doesn’t care at all about the hurting people of this country, or the suffering she has caused them. The African-American community has been taken for granted for decades by the Democratic Party. It’s time to break with the failures of the past – I want to offer Americans a new future.

Trump took that straight on:

    The main victims of these riots are law-abiding African-American citizens living in these neighborhoods. It is their jobs, their homes, their schools and communities which will suffer as a result. There is no compassion in tolerating lawless conduct. Crime and violence is an attack on the poor, and will never be accepted in a Trump Administration.

"You live in poverty," he said. "Your schools are no good. You have no jobs. What the hell do you have to lose?"




Donald Trump hasn't convinced one black person that wasn't voting for him.  Fact is that Trump is running as a Republican and the black vote will never go to that party no matter what.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Nails on August 19, 2016, 05:46:38 PM
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 19, 2016, 05:52:58 PM

Donald Trump hasn't convinced one black person that wasn't voting for him.  Fact is that Trump is running as a Republican and the black vote will never go to that party no matter what.
Weren't you a Republican though Vince? A long time ago?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 19, 2016, 05:55:54 PM
Weren't you a Republican though Vince? A long time ago?


Yes a long time ago as a Log Cabin Republican....around the time I was with Jason.  Left after 2008 when they decided to support Palin.... :P
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: SaintAnger on August 19, 2016, 06:26:39 PM
Can anyone verify this by a poll outside of right wing website?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 19, 2016, 06:37:06 PM
Obama got 95 percent of the black vote, Trump doesn't need to win the black vote, only improve on that a bit, have some more stay home (which they will cause Hillary ain't Obama) and get the votes of the people this is really directed at.  It ain't blacks, that's just a bonus.

Also, Trump does resonate heavily with many black voters on the immigration issue.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 19, 2016, 07:48:12 PM
0% X 6 = 0%

Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: timfogarty on August 19, 2016, 08:38:32 PM
Trump made that speech in a city that is less than 1% black.  The speech wasn't aimed at black people.  It was aimed at moderate whites who want to be able to say they're not voting for a racist.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 19, 2016, 08:42:33 PM
Trump made that speech in a city that is less than 1% black.  The speech wasn't aimed at black people.  It was aimed at moderate whites who want to be able to say they're not voting for a racist.


Exactly, you make a speech like that in front of black people if you want to be convincing.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 19, 2016, 09:05:21 PM

Exactly, you make a speech like that in front of black people if you want to be convincing.
And when he does that, what will you say?

He actually went to Louisiana and helped hand out stuff to blacks, flood victims.  Hell, he he even donated an 18 wheeler full of supplies.  Obama has not even been and will go sometime next week.  ::) Hillary is nowhere to be found at the moment.  She is on one of her medical benders it seems.

Pathetic really.


Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 19, 2016, 09:09:43 PM
Do we really need more illegals and refugees when we have communities in this country that need jobs?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 19, 2016, 09:18:10 PM
who cares he's gonna lose anyway so it doesn't matter
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: TuHolmes on August 19, 2016, 09:47:28 PM
I just want to make sure what we are saying.

We like the guy who doesn't pander.

Right while he's pandering.

Got it.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Master Blaster on August 19, 2016, 09:54:11 PM
I don't know what's gonna happen after the election, but regardless of who is elected I am going to enjoy some delicious sandwiches and be grateful I am still alive.

People take themselves too damn seriously. HAVE FUN! Don't be a buzz kill. Eat delicious sandwiches.

Keys to life.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 19, 2016, 10:46:44 PM
Trump scores, Hillary snores.  She's napping cause she's withered.  And the polls are all tightening and within the MoE.

so polls are accudate once again?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: timfogarty on August 19, 2016, 11:23:27 PM
He actually went to Louisiana and helped hand out stuff to blacks, flood victims.  Hell, he he even donated an 18 wheeler full of supplies.  Obama has not even been and will go sometime next week.  ::) Hillary is nowhere to be found at the moment.  She is on one of her medical benders it seems.

http://americablog.com/2016/08/trump-visits-louisiana-flood-governor-said-stay-away.html

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump swooped into flood-ridden Louisiana today for a photo opp after the governor of the state asked politicians to stay away for at least two weeks. ... He said a visit from Obama, which would require heightened security and road closures, would be a drain on resources as the state still works to respond to the flood.

“Quite frankly, that’s not something I want to go through right now,” Edwards said. “I would just as soon he wait a week or two.”
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 12:00:59 AM
http://americablog.com/2016/08/trump-visits-louisiana-flood-governor-said-stay-away.html

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump swooped into flood-ridden Louisiana today for a photo opp after the governor of the state asked politicians to stay away for at least two weeks. ... He said a visit from Obama, which would require heightened security and road closures, would be a drain on resources as the state still works to respond to the flood.

“Quite frankly, that’s not something I want to go through right now,” Edwards said. “I would just as soon he wait a week or two.”
The DEMOCRATIC governor said he would welcome Trump.  Read your article.

Furthermore, I remember you pathetic liberals all up in arms that Bush did not visit Katrina sooner.   ::)  I swear, you people have zero consistency on anything.  Only when it benefits your side.  This is part of the reason why I will never identify as a Democrat ever again.  The inability to change ones mind when given evidence as well as not having the ability to call bullshit within your own party.  Its sickening really and I can't believe the majority of Democrats are group thinkers.  Its disgusting.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: timfogarty on August 20, 2016, 01:27:15 AM
Furthermore, I remember you pathetic liberals all up in arms that Bush did not visit Katrina sooner. 

It had nothing to do with Bush visiting.  It was "Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job" where Brownie was Michael Brown, the director of FEMA, and FEMA was failing at every level.

Even small government conservatives will agree it is the role of the federal government to prepare for and deal with the aftermath of natural disasters.  The Bush Administration failed to heed the warnings the days before Katrina (the storm didn't just suddenly appear over New Orleans), and failed to respond immediately after.

Rather than overseeing preparations for the storm, Bush was in Arizona singing Happy Birthday to John McCain.  That is what he was criticized for.

http://www.disastersrus.org/katrina/senatereport/KatCon.pdf
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: muscleman-2013 on August 20, 2016, 01:49:29 AM
It had nothing to do with Bush visiting.  It was "Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job" where Brownie was Michael Brown, the director of FEMA, and FEMA was failing at every level.

Even small government conservatives will agree it is the role of the federal government to prepare for and deal with the aftermath of natural disasters.  The Bush Administration failed to heed the warnings the days before Katrina (the storm didn't just suddenly appear over New Orleans), and failed to respond immediately after.

Rather than overseeing preparations for the storm, Bush was in Arizona singing Happy Birthday to John McCain.  That is what he was criticized for.

http://www.disastersrus.org/katrina/senatereport/KatCon.pdf

Hey Tim Cockupinme

why don't you go to Saudi Arabia and preach your LGBT shit.  C'mon buddy, we know you love Muslim cock.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: MAXX on August 20, 2016, 03:15:52 AM
It's true what do they have to lose. Since Obama blacks have only gotten more and more wellfare dependant. Then again that's probably all the common black care about, getting benefits and wellfare.

Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Slik on August 20, 2016, 03:17:12 AM
Trump! Tell u what. If he does win u gotta respect the guy. Winning against all odds. And genius tactics if so. Just the kind of thinking we need.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Royalty on August 20, 2016, 04:18:35 AM
I do agree with Trump in that Hillary see's black people only as "votes"... not as human beings. They are her "votes".

I watched Louis Farrakhan basically endorse Trump. Farrakhan says that Hillary is an "evil woman".
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: K-1 on August 20, 2016, 04:48:45 AM
smh americans need to stop thinking so basic and see the big picture...get up to speed on history. Both candidates are full of shit.

Pressure needs to be applied to the puppets doing their masters deeds...you dont just pick one and say I like this one over the other when they both have the same agenda.

that agenda..focus their life on the possibility of being accepted into the puppet masters circle. Their families, family names etc be checked on the list of families who sold their souls at our (the working class on up to that 90% of us who have no true wealth, yet we generate 99% of it for 1%) expense  

These "candidates" ONLY care is to get into and/or stay in that circle. We are pawns. They pit us against one another, divide us, create laws to oppress us, create food and medicine to keep us in a fog, force feed us bs on tv and reading you fools go back and forth like one is better than the other is insane.

The last president who TRULY spoke on this evil and mentioned this secret society and tried to stop the path he saw this country heading was killed. They wiped him out. GONE. Since then....the puppet crew one after another have obeyed like never before.

What makes you think any of the two candidates will be any different? Seriously?  And yes Hillary is a devil...props up black people behind her like cardboard cut outs ..I think it's pathetic tbh.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: iwantmass on August 20, 2016, 05:03:18 AM
It had nothing to do with Bush visiting.  It was "Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job" where Brownie was Michael Brown, the director of FEMA, and FEMA was failing at every level.

Even small government conservatives will agree it is the role of the federal government to prepare for and deal with the aftermath of natural disasters.  The Bush Administration failed to heed the warnings the days before Katrina (the storm didn't just suddenly appear over New Orleans), and failed to respond immediately after.

Rather than overseeing preparations for the storm, Bush was in Arizona singing Happy Birthday to John McCain.  That is what he was criticized for.

http://www.disastersrus.org/katrina/senatereport/KatCon.pdf

Most all of what you typed was pure bullshit.  Yes, the levees were neglected and obsolete, and had been so for some time, well before bush.  The rest of what you typed is pure shit.  I was actually living there at the time.  Every attempt was made to evacuate and plenty of people didn't take advantage of it, because people in louisiana had made a habit of waiting out hurricanes and sticking it out.

FEMA was abused and fucked over.  Every person in louisiana received a free 2k displacement check on top of food stamps.  They weren't even checking ids.  People from Arkansas and Texas were cashing in on the freebies.  Property damage was fraudulently reported to the tune of record costs.  The dishonest behavior and record amount of fraud, that took place in louisiana during katrina, will forever change the nature of emergency response and monetary dispersal during emergencies

No one that actually lived in louisiana, and exercised any amount of common sense, would argue that they didn't have enough time to prepare.  I certainly did and I lived within 45 minutes of new Orleans at the time.  But hey, what do I know, I was only there...and you have a fancy government report.

Outside of the gross negligence to the levees, they did as much as could be done.  If a person chose to ride out the hurricane,  and wanted help once they realized they bit off more than they could chew, that's their own fault.  They were all told that if they didn't leave now, emergency response may not be able to reach them in a timely fashion once the hurricane arrived
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Vince G, CSN MFT on August 20, 2016, 05:15:29 AM
And when he does that, what will you say?

He actually went to Louisiana and helped hand out stuff to blacks, flood victims.  Hell, he he even donated an 18 wheeler full of supplies.  Obama has not even been and will go sometime next week.  ::) Hillary is nowhere to be found at the moment.  She is on one of her medical benders it seems.

Pathetic really.






Trump passed out stuff for all of 49 seconds.  He may have donated but Trump did it as a photo opportunity.  The governor already said for him not to come down there if he was going to do stuff like that but he did anyway.  Its a shame he's using this disaster for political banter
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 05:23:28 AM
http://americablog.com/2016/08/trump-visits-louisiana-flood-governor-said-stay-away.html

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump swooped into flood-ridden Louisiana today for a photo opp after the governor of the state asked politicians to stay away for at least two weeks. ... He said a visit from Obama, which would require heightened security and road closures, would be a drain on resources as the state still works to respond to the flood.

“Quite frankly, that’s not something I want to go through right now,” Edwards said. “I would just as soon he wait a week or two.”

You must admit it sounds like he's just being selfish, though.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: K-1 on August 20, 2016, 05:30:59 AM
Most all of what you typed was pure bullshit.  Yes, the levees were neglected and obsolete, and had been so for some time, well before bush.  The rest of what you typed is pure shit.  I was actually living there at the time.  Every attempt was made to evacuate and plenty of people didn't take advantage of it, because people in louisiana had made a habit of waiting out hurricanes and sticking it out.

FEMA was abused and fucked over.  Every person in louisiana received a free 2k displacement check on top of food stamps.  They weren't even checking ids.  People from Arkansas and Texas were cashing in on the freebies.  Property damage was fraudulently reported to the tune of record costs.  The dishonest behavior and record amount of fraud, that took place in louisiana during katrina, will forever change the nature of emergency response and monetary dispersal during emergencies

No one that actually lived in louisiana, and exercised any amount of common sense, would argue that they didn't have enough time to prepare.  I certainly did and I lived within 45 minutes of new Orleans at the time.  But hey, what do I know, I was only there...and you have a fancy government report.

Outside of the gross negligence to the levees, they did as much as could be done.  If a person chose to ride out the hurricane,  and wanted help once they realized they bit off more than they could chew, that's their own fault.  They were all told that if they didn't leave now, emergency response may not be able to reach them in a timely fashion once the hurricane arrived

This!

from the westbank. I was in miami during Katrina. Everything you said is exactly how I remember it going down.

 
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 05:31:34 AM
Do we really need more illegals and refugees when we have communities in this country that need jobs?

Not unless we want to destroy America, no.

Matter of fact, all job growth since 2000 has gone to various types of "migrants" and it looks as though someone has set out to do exactly that: destroy America.   We're going to be bogged down with all these people and nothing to do, in a matter of very few generations.  Like any other fucked-up third world place.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Mr Anabolic on August 20, 2016, 06:05:33 AM
smh americans need to stop thinking so basic and see the big picture...get up to speed on history. Both candidates are full of shit.

Pressure needs to be applied to the puppets doing their masters deeds...you dont just pick one and say I like this one over the other when they both have the same agenda.

that agenda..focus their life on the possibility of being accepted into the puppet masters circle. Their families, family names etc be checked on the list of families who sold their souls at our (the working class on up to that 90% of us who have no true wealth, yet we generate 99% of it for 1%) expense  

These "candidates" ONLY care is to get into and/or stay in that circle. We are pawns. They pit us against one another, divide us, create laws to oppress us, create food and medicine to keep us in a fog, force feed us bs on tv and reading you fools go back and forth like one is better than the other is insane.

The last president who TRULY spoke on this evil and mentioned this secret society and tried to stop the path he saw this country heading was killed. They wiped him out. GONE. Since then....the puppet crew one after another have obeyed like never before.

What makes you think any of the two candidates will be any different? Seriously?  And yes Hillary is a devil...props up black people behind her like cardboard cut outs ..I think it's pathetic tbh.

Finally... someone on here that actually understands what's really going on.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: gmflex on August 20, 2016, 06:40:19 AM
Thread backfire... ;D
Hillary will win the minority vote regardless of the news stories and polls that are stating otherwise..

Hillary = the Teflon Don..
She has been chosen.. and as much as I hate to say it..
We will have the 1st women president in November...
Sad but true... :-\
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 20, 2016, 06:44:07 AM
It makes perfect sense to me. I actually brought this up a few months back with Al Doggity in regards to something Stephen A Smith said. That the democrats have done nothing for blacks, so if you vote republican it will either wake the democrats back up to your cause by making them realize that you'll no longer blindly support them or maybe just realize that republicans will help you out by advancing your cause with their system. It's exactly what Trump says, "what do you have to lose?"
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: K-1 on August 20, 2016, 07:02:13 AM
Thread backfire... ;D
Hillary will win the minority vote regardless of the news stories and polls that are stating otherwise..

Hillary = the Teflon Don..
She has been chosen.. and as much as I hate to say it..
We will have the 1st women president in November...
Sad but true... :-\

for years in the making ...same as obama...he was literally microwaved candidate over night. I'm willing to bet he was groomed since before college to be "placed" in office.

after the last great president was killed for trying to inject the U.S. note in an effort to replace the federal note Americans should have noticed the trend. War, Puppets..etc

I'll dog walk you...killed president exposed the puppet master, devised a way to push them aside, put in place executive order to replace their note with our OWN U.S. notes (dollar) backed by silver. Inject those notes into the economy and eventually rid ourselves of "them"

Nope...kill him. Let one of "them" actually be a lead on his investigation of death, insert puppet reagan (out of nowhere actor) to kill that executive bill (oh yeah...it was ACTIVE and the US notes should have actually been dispersed and in effect but they weren't hmmm)

so we get our puppet to kill the order THEN we go absolute WAR CRAZY...start creating enemies left and right like it was some kind of super hero vs villain  movie series....goal = drive drive the bills so high we could never use that dead presidents solution ever again..EVER.

Guess who we "borrowed" the money from to fund our ongoing movie series to this day? Who do we owe? it aint china btw.  

now go back to jekyll island  ;)
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Immortal_Technique on August 20, 2016, 07:37:04 AM
Donald Trump is a racist piece of shit in a country founded on immigration. I would talk about irony, but Americans don't understand what it means haha
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: MAXX on August 20, 2016, 07:42:20 AM
Donald Trump is cool as shit in a country founded by white immigration. I would talk about irony, but Americans don't understand what it means haha
corrected that for you  :)
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Yamcha on August 20, 2016, 08:01:25 AM
Donald Trump is a racist piece of shit in a country founded on immigration. I would talk about irony, but Americans don't understand what it means haha

how is he racist?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 20, 2016, 08:02:12 AM
It makes perfect sense to me. I actually brought this up a few months back with Al Doggity in regards to something Stephen A Smith said. That the democrats have done nothing for blacks, so if you vote republican it will either wake the democrats back up to your cause by making them realize that you'll no longer blindly support them or maybe just realize that republicans will help you out by advancing your cause with their system. It's exactly what Trump says, "what do you have to lose?"

They do have something to lose. Generations of government dependency has left a large percentage of the black population ill equipped to function in modern day society. Voting Democrat allows them to remain wards of the state; whereas voting Republican is the equivalent of cutting off their air supply.

Trump is wasting his time. I said it in another thread. You gotta know when to hold and when to fold. Unless you have a (D) next to your name, Blacks are a fold.

Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Straw Man on August 20, 2016, 08:08:19 AM
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/08/18/shock-poll-trumps-black-support-grows-6x-after-milwaukee-appeal/

Trump made his most direct play for African-American support in the campaign:

    We reject the bigotry of Hillary Clinton which panders to and talks down to communities of color and sees them only as votes, not as individual human beings worthy of a better future. She doesn’t care at all about the hurting people of this country, or the suffering she has caused them. The African-American community has been taken for granted for decades by the Democratic Party. It’s time to break with the failures of the past – I want to offer Americans a new future.

Trump took that straight on:

    The main victims of these riots are law-abiding African-American citizens living in these neighborhoods. It is their jobs, their homes, their schools and communities which will suffer as a result. There is no compassion in tolerating lawless conduct. Crime and violence is an attack on the poor, and will never be accepted in a Trump Administration.

"You live in poverty," he said. "Your schools are no good. You have no jobs. What the hell do you have to lose?"



LOL

You'd have to be a world class schmuck to believe anything about Trump that you see on Breitbart

Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 20, 2016, 08:22:41 AM
This shit isn't Rocket Science. If Trump wants to win, he just needs to look at this pic, focus on the states Bush won, and pretend the rest of the country doesn't exist:


(https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/87/79887-004-AAECED92.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Straw Man on August 20, 2016, 08:46:42 AM
This shit isn't Rocket Science. If Trump wants to win, he just needs to look at this pic, focus on the states Bush won, and pretend the rest of the country doesn't exist:


(https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/87/79887-004-AAECED92.jpg)
.

The only problem with that plan is that Trump is not incumbent President Bush and the people who supported incumbent Bush don't all support Trump...... including GWB
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 20, 2016, 09:04:22 AM
The DEMOCRATIC governor said he would welcome Trump.  Read your article.

Furthermore, I remember you pathetic liberals all up in arms that Bush did not visit Katrina sooner.   ::)  I swear, you people have zero consistency on anything.  Only when it benefits your side.  This is part of the reason why I will never identify as a Democrat ever again.  The inability to change ones mind when given evidence as well as not having the ability to call bullshit within your own party.  Its sickening really and I can't believe the majority of Democrats are group thinkers.  Its disgusting.

Ahh, memory.

Preach on, brother.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mazrim on August 20, 2016, 09:14:12 AM
Donald Trump is a racist piece of shit in a country founded on immigration. I would talk about irony, but Americans don't understand what it means haha
Pretty amazing that some dumbos from other countries have such an opinion on our presidential race.
Got news for you, if we fall, it will be down to your level so I don't know what is so funny. That's what we are hoping to prevent.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 20, 2016, 09:16:24 AM
Ahh, memory.

Preach on, brother.

Why does that estrogen-soaked "man" have tits?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 20, 2016, 09:18:02 AM
.

The only problem with that plan is that Trump is not incumbent President Bush and the people who supported incumbent Bush don't all support Trump...... including GWB

I agree but that still is what he has to do to win. Hillary isn't a Juggernaut either.

Catering to the Black vote is just pissin' in the wind.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: oldgolds on August 20, 2016, 09:34:03 AM

Donald Trump hasn't convinced one black person that wasn't voting for him.  Fact is that Trump is running as a Republican and the black vote will never go to that party no matter what.


You're probably right....Maybe Black people deserve what they get....so dumb and full of hate that they will never improve their lot.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Rambone on August 20, 2016, 09:36:48 AM
how is he racist?

Because he's against illegal and undocumented immigration.....oh wait, that's not racist
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Yamcha on August 20, 2016, 10:31:52 AM
Because he's against illegal and undocumented immigration.....oh wait, that's not racist

because he want's to thoroughly check immigrants from countries that have terrorist ties...
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Dave D on August 20, 2016, 10:42:00 AM
It had nothing to do with Bush visiting.  It was "Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job" where Brownie was Michael Brown, the director of FEMA, and FEMA was failing at every level.

Even small government conservatives will agree it is the role of the federal government to prepare for and deal with the aftermath of natural disasters.  The Bush Administration failed to heed the warnings the days before Katrina (the storm didn't just suddenly appear over New Orleans), and failed to respond immediately after.

Rather than overseeing preparations for the storm, Bush was in Arizona singing Happy Birthday to John McCain.  That is what he was criticized for.

http://www.disastersrus.org/katrina/senatereport/KatCon.pdf

Tim do you have any examples of the federal government responding correctly to a disaster that was as devastating as Katrina? Both in pre disaster preparation and post "clean up".

I'm not trolling you,  I'm just curious as to your response and or examples.

Thanks
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Griffith on August 20, 2016, 10:53:19 AM
Why does the USA end up with such rubbish candidates for President...?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Parker on August 20, 2016, 11:19:29 AM
Why does the USA end up with such rubbish candidates for President...?
It's a reflection of America. They didn't come out of nowhere.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 20, 2016, 11:39:28 AM
Every country has shitty candidates.

Politics is a scummy business that attracts scummy people.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 12:05:15 PM
It's a reflection of America. They didn't come out of nowhere.

It's a reflection of what non-Americans want, voiced through the media.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 12:07:20 PM
We get the one guy who managed to punch his way through it, probably the last we'll ever see, and it looks like he's throwing the fucking thing.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: timfogarty on August 20, 2016, 12:09:49 PM
This shit isn't Rocket Science. If Trump wants to win, he just needs to look at this pic, focus on the states Bush won, and pretend the rest of the country doesn't exist:


(https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/87/79887-004-AAECED92.jpg)

the only problem with that plan is that Trump is badly losing Colorado, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Ohio, North Carolina, Iowa and Florida. not doing so well in Nevada, Arizona and Georgia either.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 20, 2016, 12:16:54 PM
the only problem with that plan is that Trump is badly losing Colorado, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Ohio, North Carolina, Iowa and Florida. not doing so well in Nevada, Arizona and Georgia either.

I'm not saying he's doing well or that he's even going to win. I'm talking about what he has to do to win, and that would be to win the same states that Bush won in 2004.

Blacks are gonna vote (D) no matter what Trump says or does. So, what is point of attempting to court Black voters?

Btw, I don't know what Polls you're looking at, but it's pretty close in Ohio and Florida, certainly not lost causes with more than two months to go.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 12:33:49 PM
the only problem with that plan is that Trump is badly losing Colorado, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Virginia, Ohio, North Carolina, Iowa and Florida. not doing so well in Nevada, Arizona and Georgia either.
Most of those states he is within the margin of error.  Losing badly?  Give me a break and check your facts.  ::)
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: timfogarty on August 20, 2016, 12:39:14 PM
Most of those states he is within the margin of error.  Losing badly?  Give me a break and check your facts.  ::)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Clinton up by 9 in Florida, 11 in Pennsylvania, 10 in Colorado, 9 in North Carolina, 5 in Ohio, 12 in Virginia, 12 in New Mexico
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: timfogarty on August 20, 2016, 12:40:04 PM
Blacks are gonna vote (D) no matter what Trump says or does. So, what is point of attempting to court Black voters?

To allow moderate white voters think they're not voting for a racists
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 12:42:53 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/

Clinton up by 9 in Florida, 11 in Pennsylvania, 10 in Colorado, 9 in North Carolina, 5 in Ohio, 12 in Virginia, 12 in New Mexico
Polls seem to be all over the place.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/290839-poll-clinton-leads-trump-by-2-in-north-carolina

Poll: Clinton leads Trump by 2 in North Carolina

Public Policy Polling surveyed 830 likely voters in North Carolina from August 5 to 7. The margin of error is 3.4 percentage points.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 12:45:44 PM
To allow moderate white voters think they're not voting for a racists
Trump is not racist.  Even if he was, moderate white have NO problem with racism and are racist as well.  Most whites are just as most blacks are.  You are deluding yourself if you think this is not the case. 
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 20, 2016, 12:48:33 PM
Why does the USA end up with such rubbish candidates for President...?

Rubbish?  More like an actual savior.  He broke thru to what the people want, NO MORE FUCKING ILLEGALS.  Every other candidate was on the open borders gravy train including Milhouse Cruz.

If Hillary wins there will be a permanent democratic majority based on illegals.

Also Trump lives and breathes anti-PC, which is also destroying the country.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 20, 2016, 01:07:25 PM

Also Trump lives and breathes anti-PC, which is also destroying the country.

Hell, this alone is enough. He pretty much single handedly exposed the Liberal media as a joke and being no better than the Pravda.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: SF1900 on August 20, 2016, 01:09:44 PM
At this point, it seems pointless to refer to polls.. As TA said, they are all over the place. We will find out soon enough anyway.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 20, 2016, 01:25:04 PM
Trumps speeches aren't as fun anymore.  Reading standard script now.  Safer but wow I miss the crazy stuff.

If the election is close, Hilary cheats and steals it.  Trump has to win by a lot in order to win.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: timfogarty on August 20, 2016, 01:29:41 PM
Trump is not racist. 

Don't know if he is a racist.  He has been sued a few times for violating anti-discrimination laws.

But whether he's a racist or not, he certainly surrounds himself with white supremacists, he retweets white supremacists.

Quote
Even if he was, moderate white have NO problem with racism and are racist as well.

moderate whites do have a problem with being associated with white supremacists.  
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Straw Man on August 20, 2016, 01:42:12 PM
Kind of hard to take Adams support of Trump seriously given his prior blind devotion to Bernie only to turn his back on him as soon as he lost.  On the other hand, watching him get his heart broken twice in one election will be entertaining
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 02:21:18 PM
Kind of hard to take Adams support of Trump seriously given his prior blind devotion to Bernie only to turn his back on him as soon as he lost.  On the other hand, watching him get his heart broken twice in one election will be entertaining


He will be menstruating for a solid 4 years.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 02:26:02 PM

He will be menstruating for a solid 4 years.
You already are menstruating.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 02:30:17 PM
You already are menstruating.

Sick burn.  ::)
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: epic_alien on August 20, 2016, 02:38:18 PM
Ahh, memory.

Preach on, brother.


is this picture real? he wore that?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 20, 2016, 02:42:30 PM
Hell, this alone is enough. He pretty much single handedly exposed the Liberal media as a joke and being no better than the Pravda.

Can we also thank God for some of the things we don't have to put up with in this election due to Trump?  Stuff like the Abortion issue, fake clothing makeovers to include lumberjack shirts, Nation building war mongering, the Bush dynasty, and people bitching that both sides are in favor of illegal immigration.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 20, 2016, 03:11:36 PM
Can we also thank God for some of the things we don't have to put up with in this election due to Trump?  Stuff like the Abortion issue, fake clothing makeovers to include lumberjack shirts, Nation building war mongering, the Bush dynasty, and people bitching that both sides are in favor of illegal immigration.

dont forget everyone posing for duck hunting.   remember kerry 2004 trying to win last minute votes with those pics? 
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 20, 2016, 03:27:35 PM
To allow moderate white voters think they're not voting for a racists

What a bedwetting brain dead liberal like you calls racist I'd consider to be a normal person.

Democrats only want to keep institutionalized victimization alive - win at all costs using any means necessary and don't ever let truth get in the way.

Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 03:32:40 PM
What a bedwetting brain dead liberal like you calls racist I'd consider to be a normal person.

Democrats only want to keep institutionalized victimization alive - win at all costs using any means necessary and don't ever let truth get in the way.



And what an illiterate brain dead conservative like you doesn't comprehend is that the poster you quoted was talking about how Trump is attempting to appeal to people who don't think like you.  ::)
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Grape Ape on August 20, 2016, 03:42:13 PM
To allow moderate white voters think they're not voting for a racists

Don't know if he is a racist..  

Nice consistency.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 20, 2016, 03:42:30 PM
And what an illiterate brain dead conservative like you doesn't comprehend is that the poster you quoted was talking about how Trump is attempting to appeal to people who don't think like you.  ::)

Liberals don't think....

And 8 years of Dem "leadership" has run the U.S. into the ground. But Libs will court the black/brown/handout vote and turn this into a third world shithole as long as the gubment freebies and leach programs don't stop.

But as long as Obama and Hillary don't have to discuss the worst economic growth for any president ever - we can keep discussing some raghead immigration lawyer holding up a $1 constitution in fake outrage
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 03:47:18 PM
Nice consistency.

You seriously can't comprehend how "he's attempting to appeal to white voters who are concerned he's racist"  and "I don't know if he's racist"  aren't mutually exclusive?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 03:48:10 PM
Liberals don't think....

And 8 years of Dem "leadership" has run the U.S. into the ground. But Libs will court the black/brown/handout vote and turn this into a third world shithole as long as the gubment freebies and leach programs don't stop.

But as long as Obama and Hillary don't have to discuss the worst economic growth for any president ever - we can keep discussing some raghead immigration lawyer holding up a $1 constitution in fake outrage

 ::) A whole lot of words which have nothing to do with how you misunderstood a very simple post.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Grape Ape on August 20, 2016, 03:53:49 PM
You seriously can't comprehend how "he's attempting to appeal to white voters who are concerned he's racist"  and "I don't know if he's racist"  aren't mutually exclusive?


He didn't say that.  He said this:

Quote
To allow moderate white voters think they're not voting for a racists

Which implies he is a racist, but is trying to fool white voters.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 20, 2016, 03:57:34 PM

He didn't say that.  He said this:

Which implies he is a racist, but is trying to fool white voters.

He's just parroting what the Lib media has been Trumpeting all along:

Notice what sneaky shits they are. They don't come out and say it themselves. They take some celebrities' comment and put it on the cover.

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2566431.1458141616!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/modianoweb17s-1-web.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 04:03:04 PM

He didn't say that.  He said this:

Which implies he is a racist, but is trying to fool white voters.

No, it doesn't imply that. It acknowledges that Trump being a racist is something that is not an uncommon belief and is something that could keep some white voters from voting for him.

Personally, I have no reservations saying Trump is a racist, but I'm not the original poster so many of you  are willfully misunderstanding.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 20, 2016, 04:07:11 PM
Anyone who wants to halt illegal immigration and vet refugees coming in from terror hotbeds is a racist.  It's that simple.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Grape Ape on August 20, 2016, 04:08:27 PM
No, it doesn't imply that. It acknowledges that Trump being a racist is something that is not an uncommon belief and is something that could keep some white voters from voting for him.

Personally, I have no reservations saying Trump is a racist, but I'm not the original poster so many of you  are willfully misunderstanding.

"To allow white people to think they're not voting for a racist" certainly does.

If he meant it the other way he could've easily said "to help dispel notions he's a racist"  or "to eliminate the false meme that he's a racist"....

Either way, believe what you want.

I'm not voting Trump because he's a loon, but I'm not going to label him a racist because liberals keep repeating it.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 04:15:16 PM
"To allow white people to think they're not voting for a racist" certainly does.

If he meant it the other way he could've easily said "to help dispel notions he's a racist"  or "to eliminate the false meme that he's a racist"....

Either way, believe what you want.

I'm not voting Trump because he's a loon, but I'm not going to label him a racist because liberals keep repeating it.

No, it doesn't. Not on its own and specifically because you are using the original statement as an imaginary contradiction to something he posted shortly afterwards. It has nothing to do with what I believe and is just basic reading comprehension.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 20, 2016, 04:23:13 PM
No, it doesn't imply that. It acknowledges that Trump being a racist is something that is not an uncommon belief and is something that could keep some white voters from voting for him.

Personally, I have no reservations saying Trump is a racist, but I'm not the original poster so many of you  are willfully misunderstanding.

Why do you believe Trump is a racist?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 20, 2016, 04:24:24 PM
To counteract the false media narrative concerning race because the race hustlers will paint anyone not in line with group identity politics and open borders as racist.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 04:28:02 PM


 :D
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: SaintAnger on August 20, 2016, 04:32:13 PM
If some of the people were napalmed straight raw, I wouldn't care.  That is all.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Grape Ape on August 20, 2016, 04:41:07 PM
No, it doesn't. Not on its own and specifically because you are using the original statement as an imaginary contradiction to something he posted shortly afterwards. It has nothing to do with what I believe and is just basic reading comprehension.

You seem very vested in people's interpretation of his post.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 04:58:19 PM
He's just parroting what the Lib media has been Trumpeting all along:

Notice what sneaky shits they are. They don't come out and say it themselves. They take some celebrities' comment and put it on the cover.

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2566431.1458141616!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/modianoweb17s-1-web.jpg)

Typical.  Mort Suckerman's paper.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 05:04:43 PM
Why do you believe Trump is a racist?


His stances on Muslims, the Asian "threat", illegal immigration (specifically Hispanics) and his birther campaign all paint a clear picture of a racist to me. Others may feel differently, but I'm not really trying to convince others. Just answering your question. Different people have different tolerance levels for racism. I haven't really made a big deal about it and it's honestly not even a central reason for my opposition to him as a president.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 20, 2016, 05:04:56 PM
::) A whole lot of words which have nothing to do with how you misunderstood a very simple post.

You seem WAY too interested in defending Polesmoker Fogarty's post.

You work the gloryhole with Timmay, or is he your Top?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 20, 2016, 05:07:47 PM
Funny how dems ignore the racism within the 20k released emails.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 05:08:04 PM
You seem WAY too interested in defending Polesmoker Fogarty's post.

You work the gloryhole with Timmay, or is he your Top?

Walter Slobcock trying to find another excuse to discuss his gay sex fantasies. Never change. And by that I mean please kill yourself as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 20, 2016, 05:12:14 PM
Walter Slobcock trying to find another excuse to discuss gay fantasies. Never change. And by that I mean please kill yourself as soon as possible.

Yep....typical Lib response.

You're the kind of chickenshit homo who keys an 85 year old widow's car because she has a Trump sticker on it.

I'd say you're a Timmay Fogarty gimmick, but only because I can't believe there are two people in the world that queer and stupid.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Grape Ape on August 20, 2016, 05:15:56 PM

His stances on Muslims, the Asian "threat", illegal immigration (specifically Hispanics) and his birther campaign all paint a clear picture of a racist to me. Others may feel differently, but I'm not really trying to convince others. Just answering your question. Different people have different tolerance levels for racism. I haven't really made a big deal about it and it's honestly not even a central reason for my opposition to him as a president.

Muslims aren't a race.   Stopping illegal immigration isn't a race issue.  Birther campaign was about laws.

None of those examples are racial.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Irongrip400 on August 20, 2016, 05:17:12 PM

His stances on Muslims, the Asian "threat", illegal immigration (specifically Hispanics) and his birther campaign all paint a clear picture of a racist to me. Others may feel differently, but I'm not really trying to convince others. Just answering your question. Different people have different tolerance levels for racism. I haven't really made a big deal about it and it's honestly not even a central reason for my opposition to him as a president.

Fair enough. Honest post, I don't agree that Trump is a racist, but I believe in your right to voice your opinion. You seem like a level headed individual.




Muslims aren't a race.   Stopping illegal immigration isn't a race issue.  Birther campaign was about laws.

None of those examples are racial.

Basically my views on this. I guess there's really no convincing either side.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 05:18:57 PM
Yep....typical Lib response.

You're the kind of chickenshit homo who keys an 85 year old widow's car because she has a Trump sticker on it.

I'd say you're a Timmay Fogarty gimmick, but only because I can't believe there are two people in the world that queer and stupid.

What the fuck does this even mean? Typical lib response? As if I was shellshocked by your brilliant and insightful response that  I was responding to??   You're one of the lamest, most low brow posters on here and when you're not making juvenile gay jokes, you're settling for borderline retarded observations. What is there to be afraid of? Dumbass.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 05:21:13 PM
Funny how dems ignore the racism within the 20k released emails.
Very good point actually.  Those Democratic Internal Emails are more "racist" than anything Trump has ever said or did.  Somehow liberals seem to accept it and ignore it, or find some clever way of holding two contradictory thoughts in their head like religious nutcases tend to do.  Liberals have gotten weird the past eight years.  They were never this bad and its come to a head.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 05:23:32 PM
the core supporters of the GOP are white nationalists so questions about the nominee being racist or not don't really matter
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 05:28:58 PM
the core supporters of the GOP are white nationalists so questions about the nominee being racist or not don't really matter
Is the "core" a minority or a majority?  Are you implying that there are 10s of millions of white nationalists?  Really?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 05:32:34 PM
Is the "core" a minority or a majority?  Are you implying that there are 10s of millions of white nationalists?  Really?

We’ve had this view that the voters were with us on conservatism — philosophical, economic conservatism. In reality, the gravitational center of the Republican Party is white nationalism.

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12256510/republican-party-trump-avik-roy
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 05:34:03 PM
Muslims aren't a race.   Stopping illegal immigration isn't a race issue.  Birther campaign was about laws.

None of those examples are racial.

Well, this is a much better attempt at semantics than your earlier posts in this thread, but I disagree with you. It's like saying that race wasn't a huge factor in the Holocaust. Jews are just white folks, after all, right? Race is an intrinsic part of all of these issues.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 20, 2016, 05:36:50 PM
What the fuck does this even mean? Typical lib response? As if I was shellshocked by your brilliant and insightful response that  I was responding to??   You're one of the lamest, most low brow posters on here and when you're not making juvenile gay jokes, you're settling for borderline retarded observations. What is there to be afraid of? Dumbass.

What an angry little elf.

I must be a racist too, right?

Fits your insipid liberal narrative. You don't seem to grasp the concept that what Dems purport Trump to be without actual proof...Hillary is in spades.

Jesus fuck liberals are dumb and you take the cake.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 05:46:21 PM
Is the "core" a minority or a majority?  Are you implying that there are 10s of millions of white nationalists?  Really?



comments on the core at about 4:30
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 20, 2016, 05:47:29 PM
We’ve had this view that the voters were with us on conservatism — philosophical, economic conservatism. In reality, the gravitational center of the Republican Party is white nationalism.

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/25/12256510/republican-party-trump-avik-roy

You do realize that "vox" is extreme leftist don't you?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 05:48:05 PM
What an angry little elf.



Oh, suddenly you've turned into such a demure young lady, full of joy?   ::)
I can only hope to achieve your level of sophistication and  aspire to one day spread sunshine with every post like you.


Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Grape Ape on August 20, 2016, 05:50:49 PM
Well, this is a much better attempt at semantics than your earlier posts in this thread, but I disagree with you.

Thanks, but i can do without you rating my posts.   Especially since all your rebuttal was basically YOUR opinion of what he meant.


It's like saying that race wasn't a huge factor in the Holocaust. Jews are just white folks, after all, right? Race is an intrinsic part of all of these issues.

That's a complete strawman.   Illegal immigration is about all races, including whites.  You could draw a parallel if we said "Trump wants to stop all Asian immigration".  But he hasn't said that.

In essence, you said you thought Trump was a racist, then when asked why, used a bunch of examples to support your point that were not about race.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 05:51:39 PM
You do realize that "vox" is extreme leftist don't you?

the interview is of a GOP strategist who worked for Romney

go ahead keep to your information bubble you're not required to read it

ignorance is bliss

Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 05:56:33 PM


comments on the core at about 4:30
Why would this one mans opinion count as fact in your mind?   ???

So who are these powerful white nationalists you speak of?  How come I do not know any?  You are teetering on conspiracy theory at this point.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 20, 2016, 05:58:16 PM
the interview is of a GOP strategist who worked for Romney

go ahead keep to your information bubble you're not required to read it

ignorance is bliss



Yeah, I'm sure there was nothing taken out of context or spun in anyway.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 20, 2016, 05:59:54 PM
Oh, suddenly you've turned into such a demure young lady, full of joy?   ::)
I can only hope to achieve your level of sophistication and  aspire to one day spread sunshine with every post like you.

Mmmmm-kay....

Trump is a racist because he wants immigration laws enforced. And Dems want what is best for minorities, but rigged their nomination against Bernie Sanders, who would have helped minorities a hell of a lot more than Shillary.

Libs can't keep the lies straight. The release of the 30,000 emails have got to have the DNC shitting their Depends and firing up the turbo on the spin machine.

"It wasn't a $400M ransom, the prisoners just couldn't leave until we paid the money". Nothing wrong with that "coincidence".

Hahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 06:03:39 PM
Mmmmm-kay....

Trump is a racist because he wants immigration laws enforced. And Dems want what is best for minorities, but rigged their nomination against Bernie Sanders, who would have helped minorities a hell of a lot more than Shillary.

Libs can't keep the lies straight. The release of the 30,000 emails have got to have the DNC shitting their Depends and firing up the turbo on the spin machine.

"It wasn't a $400M ransom, the prisoners just couldn't leave until we paid the money". Nothing wrong with that "coincidence".

Hahahahahahaha
The funny thing of it all is, the best thing for minorities and immigrants ARE STRICT immigration laws.  This entitles them to come over legally, earn a living, not have to be paid extremely low wages under the table, guarantees worker rights, also allows for small and large businesses to hire without fear of hiring someone who forged paperwork.

I don't see what its a bad thing at all for them.  I wonder why Democrats oppose this?   ???
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 06:03:53 PM
Why would this one mans opinion count as fact in your mind?   ???

So who are these powerful white nationalists you speak of?  How come I do not know any?  You are teetering on conspiracy theory at this point.

lol are you trying to kill the GOP?

keep it up!
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 06:05:56 PM
Yeah, I'm sure there was nothing taken out of context or spun in anyway.

how do you spin an inteview?

the words of the speaker are verbatim transcribed into the report

 ???
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 06:06:40 PM
lol are you trying to kill the GOP?

keep it up!
Is the inverse true?  The core of the Democratic Party is composed of black power advocates who want to burn white suburbs and blame whites for their own poor life decisions and standard of living?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: tom joad on August 20, 2016, 06:07:02 PM
so do you guys agree or disagree with Ryan when he said that Trump's comments about the Indiana-born judge were "textbook definition" of racism?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 20, 2016, 06:09:42 PM
The funny thing of it all is, the best thing for minorities and immigrants ARE STRICT immigration laws.  This entitles them to come over legally, earn a living, not have to be paid extremely low wages under the table, guarantees worker rights, also allows for small and large businesses to hire without fear of hiring someone who forged paperwork.

I don't see what its a bad thing at all for them.  I wonder why Democrats oppose this?   ???

Because you're talking about law abiding people who want to assimilate and create a better life, not the criminals and drug cartels who want to turn the U.S. into Tijuana.

The Dems don't give a fuck either way, as long as it gets them a vote. Any Mayor, City Council member, City Manager, or Police Chief of a sanctuary city should be jailed.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 06:10:43 PM
so do you guys agree or disagree with Ryan when he said that Trump's comments about the Indiana-born judge were "textbook definition" of racism?
Where is this racism textbook.   ???  I would like to check it out of the library if I have some free time.  
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 06:11:35 PM
Thanks, but i can do without you rating my posts.   Especially since all your rebuttal was basically YOUR opinion of what he meant.
... and the second quote you posted. ::)



Quote

That's a complete strawman.   Illegal immigration is about all races, including whites.  You could draw a parallel if we said "Trump wants to stop all Asian immigration".  But he hasn't said that.

In essence, you said you thought Trump was a racist, then when asked why, used a bunch of examples to support your point that were not about race.

 ??? So, Trump hasn't specifically singled out Mexican immigrants as criminals?  So, Muslims -generally- aren't easily identifiable by appearance?  So, the Muslims he advocated banning from America weren't generally from the same part of the world?  ::)  So, he wants to send his white wife who violated immigration policies back to Slovenia?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 06:11:43 PM
Is the inverse true?  The core of the Democratic Party is composed of black power advocates who want to burn white suburbs and blame whites for their own poor life decisions and standard of living?

well that's another subject, I doubt there's any evidence for it.

will you be attending any GOP rallies?

keep us updated on this.

Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 06:12:59 PM
well that's another subject, I doubt there's any evidence for it.

will you be attending any GOP rallies?

keep us updated on this.


Well all black nationalists who have burned things down in the past two decades are Democrats.  Nearly all blacks, over 90 percent are Democrats.  Is this not a core?   ???
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 20, 2016, 06:16:14 PM
so do you guys agree or disagree with Ryan when he said that Trump's comments about the Indiana-born judge were "textbook definition" of racism?

Don't you get it....under the Obama Administration anyone who has an opinion that opposes yours is a racist.

For chrissakes, the head of the NAACP was a white chick in a wig who "identified with being black". The DNC trotted out the mothers of thugs who were shot in the act of committing crimes...these are liberal heroes nowadays

You can't make this shit up.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 06:17:42 PM
Well all black nationalists who have burned things down in the past two decades are Democrats. 

Where are you getting these numbers?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 06:19:08 PM
Well all black nationalists who have burned things down in the past two decades are Democrats.  Nearly all blacks, over 90 percent are Democrats.  Is this not a core?   ???

you're just getting emotional and changing the subject

admit the truth, the GOP is centred on white nationalism, deny it at your peril. (the numbers are so bad)

so sad the nominee is reduced to begging for black votes hahah

pathetic!
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Grape Ape on August 20, 2016, 06:23:19 PM

 ??? So, Trump hasn't specifically singled out Mexican immigrants as criminals?  

Are there no Mexican illegal immigrants who are criminals?  What was the specific quote you are referring to so we can discuss it.


So, Muslims -generally- aren't easily identifiable by appearance?

Are they?  Sound like you're doing some racial/ethnic/religious profiling there big guy.  Might want to tone that down.

So, the Muslims he advocated banning from America weren't generally from the same part of the world?


He didn't call on permanently banning muslims from America.  He called for a temporary halt until better measures to avoid letting possible terrorists in.  That's not racism.


 ::)  So, he wants to send his white wife who violated immigration policies back to Slovenia?  

He does?  Please provide a link.

But, with all the effort you're putting in, you still haven't shown he's a racist.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Coach is Back! on August 20, 2016, 06:26:11 PM
how do you spin an inteview?

the words of the speaker are verbatim transcribed into the report

 ???

Seriously? The media has been taking almost everything his said out of context, ignoring Killary and people like you actually fall for it. Are you kidding ?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 20, 2016, 06:29:53 PM
Are there no Mexican illegal immigrants who are criminals?  What was the specific quote you are referring

Are they?  Sound like you're doing some racial/ethnic/religious profiling there big guy.  Might want to tone that down.


He didn't call on permanently banning muslims from America.  He called for a temporary halt until better measures to avoid letting possible terrorists in.  That's not racism.

He does?  Please provide a link.

But, with all the effort you're putting in, you still haven't shown he's a racist.

Liberals struggle with the "illegal" part of illegal immigrant.

So they work with racist organizations like La Raza to come up with undocumented immigrant.

Bitch all you want about Trump, the two biggest racists in politics today reside right in the White House
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 06:32:00 PM
Where are you getting these numbers?
These numbers?   ???
Democratic Party
1976 - 83% of black vote
1980 - 83% of black vote
1984 - 91% of black vote
1988 - 89% of black vote
1992 - 83% of black vote
1996 - 84% of black vote
2000 - 90% of black vote
2004 - 88% of black vote

2008 - 95% of black vote
2012 - 93% of black vote
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 06:33:55 PM
you're just getting emotional and changing the subject

admit the truth, the GOP is centred on white nationalism, deny it at your peril. (the numbers are so bad)

so sad the nominee is reduced to begging for black votes hahah

pathetic!
I would say when you have over 90 percent of a certain demographic (blacks in this case) voting over and over again for one party, that would constitute the true meaning of the word "Core of the party".

We do not see the same with the Republican party with any Demographic.

So yes, we can easily conclude that the "core" of the Democratic party are made up of blacks who do not vote any other way which is what a Core would be.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 06:35:48 PM
Are there no Mexican illegal immigrants who are criminals?  What was the specific quote you are referring
Super easy to google.


Quote
Are they?  Sound like you're doing some racial/ethnic/religious profiling there big guy.  Might want to tone that down.
???  I'm not a cop. Racial profiling is something that law enforcement does. Recognizing someone's race or religion is not profiling.

Quote
He didn't call on permanently banning muslims from America.  He called for a temporary halt until better measures to avoid letting possible terrorists in.  That's not racism.
We clearly differ on opinion here.

Quote
He does?  Please provide a link.
Read that again. Unsurprisingly, you seemed to misunderstand it.


Quote
But, with all the effort you're putting in, you still haven't shown he's a racist.
I haven't put much effort into it at all. Both follow up posts were pretty short and they were preceded by this:

Others may feel differently, but I'm not really trying to convince others. Just answering your question. Different people have different tolerance levels for racism. I haven't really made a big deal about it and it's honestly not even a central reason for my opposition to him as a president.

Happy?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 06:36:08 PM
Seriously? The media has been taking almost everything his said out of context, ignoring Killary and people like you actually fall for it. Are you kidding ?

where specifically has this occurred?

did you see the video? he went on CNN and repeated the same thing himself

explain how one can spin an inteview transcript

 ???
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 20, 2016, 06:36:26 PM
I would say when you have over 90 percent of a certain demographic (blacks in this case), that would constitute the true meaning of the word "Core".

We do not see the same with the Republican party with any Demographic.

So yes, we can easily conclude that the "core" of the Democratic party are made up of blacks who do not vote any other way which is what a Core would be.

Come on Adam, blacks vote based on skin color and probability of gubment handouts.

That's no secret, their support of Blowjobama was as racist as it could be.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 06:37:29 PM
These numbers?   ???
Democratic Party
1976 - 83% of black vote
1980 - 83% of black vote
1984 - 91% of black vote
1988 - 89% of black vote
1992 - 83% of black vote
1996 - 84% of black vote
2000 - 90% of black vote
2004 - 88% of black vote

2008 - 95% of black vote
2012 - 93% of black vote



You said that every black national that has burned anything down in the last 20 years was a democrat? I'd be interested in seeing these numbers in detail.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 06:42:12 PM
He's just parroting what the Lib media has been Trumpeting all along:

Notice what sneaky shits they are. They don't come out and say it themselves. They take some celebrities' comment and put it on the cover.

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2566431.1458141616!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/modianoweb17s-1-web.jpg)

I mean, look at this fucking trash.  "WHO'S CONTROLLING RICHARD SIMMONS?"

Who the fuck are you asking, mother-fucker?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 06:42:58 PM

You said that every black national that has burned anything down in the last 20 years was a democrat? I'd be interested in seeing these numbers in detail.
You don't think that racist blacks (most are racist) are the core of the Democratic Party?   ???

What other demographic votes so overwhelmingly for one party?  There is only one I know of and that is that its a guarantee that blacks (racist ones and ones that aren't) will be DEFINITELY voting Democratic.

How the fuck is that not a core?

The same CANNOT be said for the Republican party.  Whites do vote Democratic and Republican as well as for other parties in varying percentages, enough that there is no "core" of white voters to be had while there is a clear "core" for the Democratic party, blacks.

Blacks are the fucking core of the Democratic party and you know it.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 06:44:07 PM
I would say when you have over 90 percent of a certain demographic (blacks in this case) voting over and over again for one party, that would constitute the true meaning of the word "Core of the party".

We do not see the same with the Republican party with any Demographic.

So yes, we can easily conclude that the "core" of the Democratic party are made up of blacks who do not vote any other way which is what a Core would be.

you're the only one who claims this. the numbers just aren't there sorry it doesn't add up. it's irrelevant too.

how do  you feel about the desperate pleas for black support?  

do black votes matter?

will it be possible to gain more than 0% of the black vote in Ohio and Pennsylvania?

 ???
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 06:45:25 PM
you're the only one who claims this. the numbers just aren't there sorry it doesn't add up. it's irrelevant too.

how do  you feel about the desperate pleas for black support?  

do black votes matter?

will it be possible to gain more than 0% of the black vote in Ohio and Pennsylvania?

 ???
Numbers aren't there?  Are you fucking stupid?

Seriously?  Are you?

(http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Black-Party-Affiliation-and-Vote-Patterns.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Tapeworm on August 20, 2016, 06:46:08 PM
I mean, look at this fucking trash.  "WHO'S CONTROLLING RICHARD SIMMONS?"


Jack Nicholson by the look of him.  "You can't handle the truly froofy!"
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 06:46:34 PM

You said that every black national that has burned anything down in the last 20 years was a democrat? I'd be interested in seeing these numbers in detail.

looking forward to seeing how this data was collected
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Fortress on August 20, 2016, 06:47:54 PM
Wherever and whenever possible, Muslims should be barred from entering western nations.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 06:53:54 PM
Worst are the ones who try to link Nationalism with racism.  Imagine how screwed-up it is to be so lost as to think that.  Just led along by the fucking liars who plant false ideas in their tiny little minds.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 06:54:56 PM
Numbers aren't there?  Are you fucking stupid?

Seriously?  Are you?

(http://www.ifyouonlynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Black-Party-Affiliation-and-Vote-Patterns.jpg)

black people account for about 12% of voters

that's not a core
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 06:58:45 PM
all this is better discussed following the election

wouldn't want to contaminate the process with facts

best to allow things to proceed as they were and we can do a post mortem analysis

keep doing what you're doing fellas!

 :-*
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 06:58:53 PM
you're the only one who claims this. the numbers just aren't there sorry it doesn't add up. it's irrelevant too.

how do  you feel about the desperate pleas for black support?  
I think they are pointless.  They are beyond help and will do nothing but blame everyone else anyway so what is the point of any party even bothering with them.  They need to solve their own problems and not expect others to do it for them.  That will NEVER happen though.
do black votes matter?
Ideally they should not anymore.  Its just a complete waste.  Has it helped them any?  All of their problems are self induced and they have zero interest in changing anything themselves or blaming themselves for their own behavior and standard of living and changing/fixing their problems.
will it be possible to gain more than 0% of the black vote in Ohio and Pennsylvania?
If blacks were smart, they would not be so monolithic and stupid.  They would realize that they could get ahead if they left behind the negative aspects of their culture and victimhood mentality.  Making everything about race, using it as their sole marker of identity is pathetic.  Is there not more to existing than "being black".  What benefit is there clinging to a culture of degradation?

 ???

Answered.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 07:01:40 PM
I will just leave this here:

(http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/quote-there-is-another-class-of-colored-people-who-make-a-business-of-keeping-the-troubles-the-wrongs-booker-t-washington-354862.jpg)

(http://static.conservativetribune.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/12243332_1006766006028302_8611590444924031609_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 07:03:07 PM
Very good point actually.  Those Democratic Internal Emails are more "racist" than anything Trump has ever said or did.  Somehow liberals seem to accept it and ignore it, or find some clever way of holding two contradictory thoughts in their head like religious nutcases tend to do.  Liberals have gotten weird the past eight years.  They were never this bad and its come to a head.

Imo they were led, tricked, duped into becoming the opposite of liberal, while still calling themselves that.  Craziest thing I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 07:06:59 PM
You don't think that racist blacks (most are racist) are the core of the Democratic Party?   ???

What other demographic votes so overwhelmingly for one party?  There is only one I know of and that is that its a guarantee that blacks (racist ones and ones that aren't) will be DEFINITELY voting Democratic.

How the fuck is that not a core?

The same CANNOT be said for the Republican party.  Whites do vote Democratic and Republican as well as for other parties in varying percentages, enough that there is no "core" of white voters to be had while there is a clear "core" for the Democratic party, blacks.

Blacks are the fucking core of the Democratic party and you know it.

But that isn't what I asked or what you said. A high percentage of black voters being democrats doesn't mean that every black person is a democratic voter. It doesn't mean that every black person who has committed a crime is a democratic voter.  Those are two different things.  It also doesn't mean blacks are the largest voting block within the party.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 07:13:36 PM
Answered.

your opinions on this are peppered with absolutes

you should remain open to new information on this subject
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 07:16:39 PM
The funny thing of it all is, the best thing for minorities and immigrants ARE STRICT immigration laws.  This entitles them to come over legally, earn a living, not have to be paid extremely low wages under the table, guarantees worker rights, also allows for small and large businesses to hire without fear of hiring someone who forged paperwork.

I don't see what its a bad thing at all for them.  I wonder why Democrats oppose this?   ???

So true.  And the businesses need to be put in fear, because they've been allowed to get away with murder.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 07:22:30 PM
Where is this racism textbook.   ???  I would like to check it out of the library if I have some free time.  

Lmao!
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 07:31:21 PM
you're just getting emotional and changing the subject

admit the truth, the GOP is centred on white nationalism, deny it at your peril. (the numbers are so bad)

so sad the nominee is reduced to begging for black votes hahah

pathetic!

No.  They've been right there, making globalism happen.  They've been plenty guilty.

Nationalism is without a party.  That's the whole point.  And non-whites have the most at stake, by far.  Those are the facts.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 07:38:26 PM
No.  They've been right there, making globalism happen.  They've been plenty guilty.

Nationalism is without a party.  That's the whole point.  And non-whites have the most at stake, by far.  Those are the facts.

hmmm not sure what you're trying to say. feel free to link us some reference material to clarify
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 07:41:46 PM
Jack Nicholson by the look of him.  "You can't handle the truly froofy!"

Lol, it's all just so dumb.  This billionaire fruitcake (and I do mean that) is just pulling bullshit right out off the ground and throwing it at us.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 07:44:14 PM
hmmm not sure what you're trying to say. feel free to link us some reference material to clarify

That would be your own post.  Can you manage to find it?

Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 07:46:03 PM
black people account for about 12% of voters

that's not a core
I don't think you know what a core is.   :-\

(http://media.gettyimages.com/illustrations/lunar-structure-diagram-showing-crust-mantle-and-metallic-core-illustration-id82126276?s=170667a)

(http://comps.canstockphoto.com/can-stock-photo_csp10418143.jpg)

Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 20, 2016, 07:47:03 PM
But that isn't what I asked or what you said. A high percentage of black voters being democrats doesn't mean that every black person is a democratic voter. It doesn't mean that every black person who has committed a crime is a democratic voter.  Those are two different things.  It also doesn't mean blacks are the largest voting block within the party.
Do you know what a core is?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Grape Ape on August 20, 2016, 07:51:03 PM
Super easy to google.

Trump has many comments on the topic.  I wouldn't know which one you're using to determine he's racist.  Guessing you don't have one.  If you did, you could have at least given the gist of it.

???  I'm not a cop. Racial profiling is something that law enforcement does. Recognizing someone's race or religion is not profiling.

Tell me how you recognize a muslim then.   I worked with plenty.  They looked like me.


We clearly differ on opinion here.

There's no opinion - that's what Trump said - TEMPORARY ban on muslim immigration until they could determine a way to prevent terrorists from entering the country.  If you have something that proves otherwise, feel free to post it.

Read that again. Unsurprisingly, you seemed to misunderstand it.

There you go again.  Of course I understood it, you just don't comprehend internet sarcasm.

I haven't put much effort into it at all.

I know.  It's obvious.

Both follow up posts were pretty short and they were preceded by this:

Others may feel differently, but I'm not really trying to convince others. Just answering your question. Different people have different tolerance levels for racism. I haven't really made a big deal about it and it's honestly not even a central reason for my opposition to him as a president.

Happy?


You haven't answered anything.  You posted responses that were not about racism to support your assertion that you'd have no issue calling him racist.  It's ok that you can't support it.  I'm not really surprised, to be honest.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Marty Champions on August 20, 2016, 07:57:06 PM
So true.  And the businesses need to be put in fear, because they've been allowed to get away with murder.
murder n cheap labor dont comp the 2
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 07:57:20 PM
I don't think you know what a core is.   :-\

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who do you think will win the election and why?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 07:58:43 PM
That would be your own post.  Can you manage to find it?

are you the guy that has strong feelings but makes incoherent posts?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Marty Champions on August 20, 2016, 08:04:31 PM
votin democrat is the same bad habit like still eating meat past 30 and ignoring the deleterious effects of it , and doing it again the next day
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 08:05:30 PM
are you the guy that has strong feelings but makes incoherent posts?

My thoughts about you, exactly.  I can only thank God you didn't make it to my country, and that you chose to infest Canada, instead.  Though I'm very sorry you made it to our continent, period.

Fact is that if the "Republicans" could have resisted turning into neocons, then they wouldn't be at the end of the line right now.  And the American people would have a party to turn to.

Got it?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 08:37:27 PM
My thoughts about you, exactly.  I can only thank God you didn't make it to my country, and that you chose to infest Canada, instead.  Though I'm very sorry you made it to our continent, period.

Fact is that if the "Republicans" could have resisted turning into neocons, then they wouldn't be at the end of the line right now.  And the American people would have a party to turn to.

Got it?

whoa strong feelings. you seem very angry! now is the time to look inside and reflect on why this is, no more lashing out randomly at innocent people.

is the thread about economic policy? sorry we were discussing another topic. also these aren't my opinions don't attack the messenger!!
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: LittleJ on August 20, 2016, 08:43:46 PM
Do you know what a core is?

Do you know what a job is, Adam?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 08:46:13 PM
whoa strong feelings. you seem very angry! now is the time to look inside and reflect on why this is, no more lashing out randomly at innocent people.

is the thread about economic policy? sorry we were discussing another topic. also these aren't my opinions don't attack the messenger!!

No, I'm not angry.  But if you push a false idea that the Republicans "gravitate" toward nationalism when in fact they've done anything but that -- and are now failing as a result -- then let me to tell you it's bullshit and you don't know what you're saying.

Republicans put the wants of corporations (aka the wealthiest people) in front of the needs of Americans, and that allowed for Globalism just as much as what their partners in crime, the Democrats, have done.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 08:58:47 PM
No, I'm not angry.  But if you push a false idea that the Republicans "gravitate" toward nationalism when in fact they've done anything but that -- and are now failing as a result -- then let me to tell you it's bullshit and you don't know what you're saying.

Republicans put the wants of corporations (aka the wealthiest people) in front of the needs of Americans, and that allowed for Globalism just as much as what their partners in crime, the Democrats, have done.

the term is "white nationalism". don't think you're getting the point which is separate from economic policy. these are not mutually exclusive concepts contrary to what you're saying. I don't think anyone will disagree with your points about the neocons. this is what we are discussing;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/racial-realists-are-cheered-by-trumps-latest-strategy/2016/08/20/cd71e858-6636-11e6-96c0-37533479f3f5_story.html
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 20, 2016, 09:00:22 PM
bottom line

the nominee is on his knees begging the black man for votes

sad

Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 09:15:23 PM
the term is "white nationalism". don't think you're getting the point which is separate from economic policy. these are not mutually exclusive concepts contrary to what you're saying. I don't think anyone will disagree with your points about the neocons. this is what we are discussing;

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/racial-realists-are-cheered-by-trumps-latest-strategy/2016/08/20/cd71e858-6636-11e6-96c0-37533479f3f5_story.html

Saying "white nationalism" is nothing but a way to take the most immediate and dire issue -- that of saving America -- and attaching it to something hopelessly indefensible.

See how that works?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 09:18:16 PM
Mr. Turbo, you're reading msm articles and you're falling right into the trap they've set for you.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 20, 2016, 09:23:55 PM
Trump has many comments on the topic.  I wouldn't know which one you're using to determine he's racist.  Guessing you don't have one.  If you did, you could have at least given the gist of it.

I gave you the "gist" in my first response to you. You could copy and paste that sentence into google-exactly as it's written- and receive half a million hits. If you edit it down to the keywords, you'll get 5 million hits.


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Tell me how you recognize a muslim then.   I worked with plenty.  They looked like me.
I recognize Muslims the same way I recognize Jews, Catholics, Buddhists. But I can't profile anyone because I am not a cop and profiling is something law enforcement does. Just as I employment discriminating against a Muslim just when I call them a muslim if I am not their employer.  


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There's no opinion - that's what Trump said - TEMPORARY ban on muslim immigration until they could determine a way to prevent terrorists from entering the country.  If you have something that proves otherwise, feel free to post it.

Yes, there is an opinion. You said you don't think banning Muslims temporarily qualifies as racism. I don't agree. That's a difference of opinion.


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There you go again.  Of course I understood it, you just don't comprehend internet sarcasm.

No, you didn't understand it. What you posted makes less sense as a sarcastic statement.

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I know.  It's obvious.
It should be obvious, but in your last post you posted that you thought I put in a lot of effort, even though up until that point, the "effort" I had put in amounted to two short posts.
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You haven't answered anything.  You posted responses that were not about racism to support your assertion that you'd have no issue calling him racist.  It's ok that you can't support it.  I'm not really surprised, to be honest.

Yes, I answered the question the original poster asked me. And, yes, all of the examples I used are intrinsically linked to race.

It seems like your thing is just missing the obvious. This isn't a matter of disagreement here, it's just you not having a basic grasp of the conversation.  I'm sure you think you do, which is the saddest thing, though. Anyway, I'm out on this subject with you. I already hit all the important notes (repeatedly) and I don't know how to dumb things down anymore to make you understand.

Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 20, 2016, 09:26:33 PM
No, I'm not angry.  But if you push a false idea that the Republicans "gravitate" toward nationalism when in fact they've done anything but that -- and are now failing as a result -- then let me to tell you it's bullshit and you don't know what you're saying.

Republicans put the wants of corporations (aka the wealthiest people) in front of the needs of Americans, and that allowed for Globalism just as much as what their partners in crime, the Democrats, have done.

I actually appreciate his disingenuous Canadian dispatches.  The white nationalism thing is something new that is being lunched by the loony left and the southern poverty law center because they see their gravy train possibly ending.  A group made up of mostly whites, as is America, who are in favor of their nation first, does not equal white nationalism.  Patriotism is not racist.  Good luck selling that anywhere outside of an anonymous Internet forum.  Would love to see Hillary get up and try to attack white folks for being patriotic and putting America first.  Might as well say fuck baseball and apple pie while she is at it.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 20, 2016, 09:46:50 PM
I actually appreciate his disingenuous Canadian dispatches.  The white nationalism thing is something new that is being lunched by the loony left and the southern poverty law center because they see their gravy train possibly ending.  A group made up of mostly whites, as is America, who are in favor of their nation first, does not equal white nationalism.  Patriotism is not racist.  Good luck selling that anywhere outside of an anonymous Internet forum.  Would love to see Hillary get up and try to attack white folks for being patriotic and putting America first.  Might as well say fuck baseball and apple pie while she is at it.

And of course non-whites would be the biggest winners in a strong nationalistic environment.

The entire message against it is false.  I've seen few things so backward, ever.  All someone needs to do is look at it.

But I guess that's why it must be so savagely attacked by the globalists.  It's just too real.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 20, 2016, 11:07:23 PM
And of course non-whites would be the biggest winners in a strong nationalistic environment.

The entire message against it is false.  I've seen few things so backward, ever.  All someone needs to do is look at it.

But I guess that's why it must be so savagely attacked by the globalists.  It's just too real.

Globalists using their tool of group identity politics to divide, agitate, and foment dissatisfaction.  Tell some kid in Somalia or Calcutta about how oppressed people are here.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 21, 2016, 04:19:01 AM
Saying "white nationalism" is nothing but a way to take the most immediate and dire issue -- that of saving America -- and attaching it to something hopelessly indefensible.

See how that works?

it's a conspiracy? AGAIN?

look, this is just information for people who care about facts

the typical supporter of the nominee does not concern himself with such matters. the denial is strong in this group.

it's actually impractical to correct these errors as it reduces the confusion and bewilderment on that side.

just keep doing what you're doing, hope it works out!
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mazrim on August 21, 2016, 05:56:12 AM
All you can do is laugh at Mr. Turbo.....Except that there are so many like him in the world it is (in the end) very sad.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 21, 2016, 06:01:56 AM
All you can do is laugh at Mr. Turbo.....Except that it there are so many like him in the world it is in the end very sad.

Doesn't the always end up posting like 100 posts talking to himself at the end of any political thread he is in?  It is sad.  I've seen it with others on other sites.  No one will engage them in their looniness, so they end up arguing with themselves.

These are all internet arguments anyway, in the real world you see the person, how they dress, their demeanor, their grooming, their gut, etc., and that probably tells you how their bread is buttered in 2 seconds.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 21, 2016, 06:02:27 AM


 :D
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2016, 06:08:00 AM
it's tough to believe trump after he exaggerated his July fundraising by 12 million bucks.

He just made it up.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 21, 2016, 06:16:32 AM
Doesn't the always end up posting like 100 posts talking to himself at the end of any political thread he is in?  It is sad.  I've seen it with others on other sites.  No one will engage them in their looniness, so they end up arguing with themselves.

These are all internet arguments anyway, in the real world you see the person, how they dress, their demeanor, their grooming, their gut, etc., and that probably tells you how their bread is buttered in 2 seconds.

no need to issue any personal attacks, address the content, don't attack the messenger. this just shows you can't back up your points. you have ignored repeated requests to do so, that's not the way to have an "argument".

hopefully the GOP raises the support from black people in ohio and pennsylvania above 0% but it's gonna take a lot more enthusiasm. Maybe the nominee should should call Puff Daddy and request an endorsement? They're both from New York.


the key is to just continue grovelling at the foot of the black man. continue to apologize. offer reparations for slavery etc.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 21, 2016, 06:40:37 AM

Donald Trump hasn't convinced one black person that wasn't voting for him.  Fact is that Trump is running as a Republican and the black vote will never go to that party no matter what.

All comes down to free shit.   Nothing else. 
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Grape Ape on August 21, 2016, 06:55:39 AM
It seems like your thing is just missing the obvious. This isn't a matter of disagreement here, it's just you not having a basic grasp of the conversation.  I'm sure you think you do, which is the saddest thing, though. Anyway, I'm out on this subject with you. I already hit all the important notes (repeatedly) and I don't know how to dumb things down anymore to make you understand.

I've always had a basic grasp - you've stated that racism is subjective and people have different levels of tolerance around it, and you're not imposing your views on anyone.  You said that early in the conversation.

When pressed on why you feel that Trump is racist, you couldn't really defend it.  Then you chose to go the insult route, deflect and eventually back out.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 21, 2016, 07:09:02 AM
AAs are flocking to Trump in droves.  The working African American community does not want all that illegal labor competing for jobs.  It's about the working man.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: TuHolmes on August 21, 2016, 07:15:28 AM
AAs are flocking to Trump in droves.  The working African American community does not want all that illegal labor competing for jobs.  It's about the working man.

HAHAHAHA!!!!!

Ok... Sure they are.

 :-[
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 21, 2016, 07:41:07 AM
deny deny deny

keep doing it keep doing it doing it

it's gonna work!
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Las Vegas on August 21, 2016, 12:21:43 PM
it's a conspiracy? AGAIN?

look, this is just information for people who care about facts

the typical supporter of the nominee does not concern himself with such matters. the denial is strong in this group.

it's actually impractical to correct these errors as it reduces the confusion and bewilderment on that side.

just keep doing what you're doing, hope it works out!

lol
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 21, 2016, 12:57:53 PM
I've always had a basic grasp - you've stated that racism is subjective and people have different levels of tolerance around it, and you're not imposing your views on anyone.  You said that early in the conversation.

When pressed on why you feel that Trump is racist, you couldn't really defend it.  Then you chose to go the insult route, deflect and eventually back out.


No, you haven't had a basic grasp. 1) You didn't understand the comment about Melania Trump and claimed your response was sarcasm (which would have made no sense) . 2) You didn't understand the fact that simply assuming someone is Muslim doesn't constitute racial profiling since racial profiling is something cops do DURING THE COURSE OF THEIR JOBS. I'm not a cop. I can't racial profile anymore than I can commit police corruption.  3)You weren't aware of some of the most controversial, highly publicized comments of Trump's campaign and, apparently, lack the basic ability to throw 3 words into google for a quick refresher.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.  I didn't back out because your debating skills are so scary good. I bowed out because this debate thread has been like talking to a child  who doesn't follow the news at all and has no sense of reason. The fact that you insist on doing that thing where you address every line with a talking point only makes it worse. I have debated in threads that reached dozens of pages. You, yourself have even criticized my posts for being overly long. It's one thing to have a long drawn out debate with someone because you disagree. It's another thing when you're debating with someone who doesn't even understand most of what he's responding to.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 21, 2016, 01:03:18 PM
I don't think you know what a core is.   :-\

(http://media.gettyimages.com/illustrations/lunar-structure-diagram-showing-crust-mantle-and-metallic-core-illustration-id82126276?s=170667a)

(http://comps.canstockphoto.com/can-stock-photo_csp10418143.jpg)



So, judging by the picture you posted, " core voter"  means the smallest segment of a party that is obscured by every other demographic?  ???
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 21, 2016, 01:07:52 PM
So, judging by the picture you posted, " core voter"  means the smallest segment of a party that is obscured by every other demographic?  ???
What else what it would mean?   ???

According to the definition of "core" as it relates to people:

"an important or unchanging group of people forming the central part of a larger body."

Oxford Dictionary of English - Page 387

https://books.google.com/books?id=anecAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA387&lpg=PA387&dq=an+important+or+unchanging+group+of+people+forming+the+central+part+of+a+larger+body.&source=bl&ots=TZjufqgEEL&sig=rGwC5RebgcsJ9M_u53XFUH6bI8M&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-4rnsp9POAhUERiYKHeyLA3oQ6AEIHjAA#v=onepage&q=an%20important%20or%20unchanging%20group%20of%20people%20forming%20the%20central%20part%20of%20a%20larger%20body.&f=false
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 21, 2016, 01:08:23 PM
HAHAHAHA!!!!!

Ok... Sure they are.

 :-[

If trump offered free shit to them - they sure would flock to him.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Al Doggity on August 21, 2016, 03:31:44 PM
What else what it would mean?   ???

According to the definition of "core" as it relates to people:

"an important or unchanging group of people forming the central part of a larger body."

Oxford Dictionary of English - Page 387

https://books.google.com/books?id=anecAQAAQBAJ&pg=PA387&lpg=PA387&dq=an+important+or+unchanging+group+of+people+forming+the+central+part+of+a+larger+body.&source=bl&ots=TZjufqgEEL&sig=rGwC5RebgcsJ9M_u53XFUH6bI8M&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi-4rnsp9POAhUERiYKHeyLA3oQ6AEIHjAA#v=onepage&q=an%20important%20or%20unchanging%20group%20of%20people%20forming%20the%20central%20part%20of%20a%20larger%20body.&f=false


 A group of people is not a concentric mass. The "central" part of a group is the LARGEST part of it.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The True Adonis on August 21, 2016, 04:28:21 PM

 A group of people is not a concentric mass. The "central" part of a group is the LARGEST part of it.
God you are fucking stupid. 

Rather than say, "yeah I was wrong", you try to find any way out of it.

You really are pathetic.

I don't think core means what you think it does.  :-\
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 21, 2016, 08:12:43 PM
HAHAHAHA!!!!!

Ok... Sure they are.

 :-[

Colin Powell sure ain't helping liar Hillary in People Magazine this week:

"Her people have been trying to pin it on me," Powell, 79, told PEOPLE Saturday night at the Apollo in the Hamptons 2016 Night of Legends fête in East Hampton, New York."

http://www.people.com/article/colin-powell-hillary-clinton-pinning-email-scandal-on-him

Loathesome.  This is People magazine, not some right wing website.  Reaches lots of soccer moms
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Tapeworm on August 21, 2016, 08:46:25 PM
The supermarket checkout vote.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 21, 2016, 08:57:04 PM
Trump '16 - "What the hell do you have to lose?"

Fucking brilliant.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 21, 2016, 09:07:10 PM
Where's 240 cause I think there's a pretty decent case that Hillary is trying to throw it also.  Mentions Colin Powell to FBI knowing he won't back her shit story.  Slipping in the polls and going underground for a few days right at that time.  Sending out her campaign manager in a desperate move to tie Trump to Russia.  Bill getting caught on the Tarmac "negotiating". 
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 21, 2016, 09:16:51 PM
Will the majority of Black men really vote for an ugly white grandmother?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 21, 2016, 09:33:33 PM
Will the majority of Black men really vote for an ugly white grandmother?

No. But the majority of black male voters certainly will.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2016, 09:34:45 PM
Where's 240 cause I think there's a pretty decent case that Hillary is trying to throw it also.  Mentions Colin Powell to FBI knowing he won't back her shit story.  Slipping in the polls and going underground for a few days right at that time.  Sending out her campaign manager in a desperate move to tie Trump to Russia.  Bill getting caught on the Tarmac "negotiating".  

powell lied pretty hard about the WMDs in iraq.
powell DID have his email on a private server, it was fine back then.

So him chatting with hilary and saying that's what he did - chat between secs of state, it's a small club - it is possible.



UM  desperate move to tie manafort to russia?  Trump dumped his ass when the new details came out.   He looks pretttty shady.  He worked for them for year, he joins trump, and magically trump forces the RNC to give RUS permission to invade ukraine ;)   Yeah, can't blame hillary for that haha...
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 21, 2016, 09:37:30 PM
powell lied pretty hard about the WMDs in iraq.
powell DID have his email on a private server, it was fine back then.

So him chatting with hilary and saying that's what he did - chat between secs of state, it's a small club - it is possible.



UM  desperate move to tie manafort to russia?  Trump dumped his ass when the new details came out.   He looks pretttty shady.  He worked for them for year, he joins trump, and magically trump forces the RNC to give RUS permission to invade ukraine ;)   Yeah, can't blame hillary for that haha...

Lied about what, specifically?

(One concise summary sentence please.)
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 21, 2016, 09:39:50 PM
powell lied pretty hard about the WMDs in iraq.
powell DID have his email on a private server, it was fine back then.

So him chatting with hilary and saying that's what he did - chat between secs of state, it's a small club - it is possible.

UM  desperate move to tie manafort to russia?  Trump dumped his ass when the new details came out.   He looks pretttty shady.  He worked for them for year, he joins trump, and magically trump forces the RNC to give RUS permission to invade ukraine ;)   Yeah, can't blame hillary for that haha...

Read the article and the quote, Powell says she was using private server A YEAR before.  Powell said they are trying "to pin it on me"  Looks terrible coming from someone without a dog in the fight.  Is this what the DNC is emailing out as the talking points to counteract Powell's accusation?  The lying on WMDs, your first sentence before you even address what he said?  Textbook shilling.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 21, 2016, 09:41:14 PM
No. But the majority of black male voters certainly will.

I'll be happy to settle for less than the majority.  Obama got 95 percent, if Trump gets 25 percent that's a landslide.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2016, 09:41:35 PM
Lied about what, specifically?

(One concise summary sentence please.)

Powell exaggerated and clearly made stuff up about WMD and later admitted it was the lowest point of his career?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2016, 09:43:09 PM
Read the article and the quote, Powell says she was using private server A YEAR before.  Powell said they are trying "to pin it on me"  Looks terrible coming from someone without a dog in the fight.  Is this what the DNC is emailing out as the talking points to counteract Powell's accusation?  The lying on WMDs, your first sentence before you even address what he said?  Textbook shilling.

i've said from minute 1 that hilary is lying about guilty and shady as shit.

But yes, powell did us private email.  it's 'he said, she said' between two proven liars, in powell and hilary.  they have both lied to the american people, neither has credibility, THAT is why i pointed out his admitted WMD lies.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2016, 09:45:59 PM
Read the article and the quote, Powell says she was using private server A YEAR before. 

It was actually the precedent. 

Powell & condi Rice staffers received classified info via personal email.   

Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 21, 2016, 09:50:26 PM
I'll be happy to settle for less than the majority.  Obama got 95 percent, if Trump gets 25 percent that's a landslide.

He ain't getting anywhere near 25%, sorry.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 21, 2016, 09:53:34 PM
Powell exaggerated and clearly made stuff up about WMD and later admitted it was the lowest point of his career?


Exaggerated what? He went by the intelligence at hand. That everybody had and agreed was solid.

And he didn't make up anything, you're simply lying.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2016, 09:54:17 PM
Trump isn't trying to court the african-american vote.

trump is trying to court undecided soccer moms who care about race.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2016, 09:56:18 PM
Exaggerated what? He went by the intelligence at hand. That everybody had and agreed was solid.

And he didn't make up anything, you're simply lying.

Nope.  It's all listed & linked with evidence here.   It took ten years for the info on public record to discredit Powell, but it did.  He called it the low point of his career.

Lie After Lie After Lie: What Colin Powell Knew Ten Years Ago Today and What He Said
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-schwarz/colin-powell-wmd-iraq-war_b_2624620.html

I like powell, I think he was just following orders for a bunch of chickenhawks that wanted war.  He's a good soldier and a good man.  He he did knowingly exaggerate and he did know it wasn't true.  Please click that link and read his words, and what the evidence showed us.  He knew.  Not debatable.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 21, 2016, 09:59:07 PM
It was actually the precedent. 

Powell & condi Rice staffers received classified info via personal email.   


You're full of shit.

Powell had a personal AOL account for personal email. He used State Department secure email for anything classified. The laws were changed in 2009 and Hillary didn't follow them. She had a private server, off site, with private email and was sending classified information.

You are SO full of shit. Stupid, can't comprehend what you read, and a liar.

HRC knew exactly what she was doing and knew it was breaking the law. These emails are going to come out through these Russian (?) hackers and they are going to show the Clinton Foundation is a criminal enterprise
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2016, 10:00:36 PM
You're full of shit.

Powell had a personal AOL account for personal email. He used State Department secure email for anything classified. The laws were changed in 2009 and Hillary didn't follow them. She had a private server, off site, with private email and was sending classified information.

You are SO full of shit. Stupid, can't comprehend what you read, and a liar.

HRC knew exactly what she was doing and knew it was breaking the law. These emails are going to come out through these Russian (?) hackers and they are going to show the Clinton Foundation is a criminal enterprise

i agree hilary did know what she was doing.  she's a shady beyotch.

The emails were discovered during a State Department review of the email practices of the past five secretaries of state. It found that Powell received two emails that were classified and that the "immediate staff" working for Rice received 10 emails that were classified.
The information was deemed either "secret" or "confidential," according to the report.

"Based on the department's responses and findings to date, additional potential classified material and/or highly sensitive information not intended for distribution may reside in the Department's unclassified paper and electronic archives associated with Secretaries Powell and Rice and their respective staff," a memo about the report said.

In all the cases, however -- as well as Clinton's -- the information was not marked "classified" at the time the emails were sent, according to State Department investigators.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/hillary-clinton-email-classified-colin-powell-condoleezza-rice/

Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 21, 2016, 10:07:21 PM
i agree hilary did know what she was doing.  she's a shady beyotch.

The emails were discovered during a State Department review of the email practices of the past five secretaries of state. It found that Powell received two emails that were classified and that the "immediate staff" working for Rice received 10 emails that were classified.
The information was deemed either "secret" or "confidential," according to the report.

"Based on the department's responses and findings to date, additional potential classified material and/or highly sensitive information not intended for distribution may reside in the Department's unclassified paper and electronic archives associated with Secretaries Powell and Rice and their respective staff," a memo about the report said.

In all the cases, however -- as well as Clinton's -- the information was not marked "classified" at the time the emails were sent, according to State Department investigators.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/04/politics/hillary-clinton-email-classified-colin-powell-condoleezza-rice/



You have diarrhea of the typing fingers.

You are SO full of shit. What Powell did and what HRC did are two completely different things. She openly lied to the FBI under oath throwing Powell under the bus and now that the interview transcripts have been sent to her colleagues to review she is caught redhanded.

Why do you feel invested in this enough to bald-face lie about it here on Getbig? Or are you just ducking stupid and believe the liberal bullshit?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 21, 2016, 10:08:38 PM
You are deliberately ignoring the TIMING, the crucial point Powell is making.  She said he suggested it.  He said she was already using it for a YEAR.  
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 21, 2016, 10:12:06 PM
You have diarrhea of the typing fingers.

You are SO full of shit. What Powell did and what HRC did are two completely different things. She openly lied to the FBI under oath throwing Powell under the bus and now that the interview transcripts have been sent to her colleagues to review she is caught redhanded.

Why do you feel invested in this enough to bald-face lie about it here on Getbig? Or are you just ducking stupid and believe the liberal bullshit?

I think there is a calculation by Butthurt exCruz supporters and other delusional malcontents that goes something like this:  even if you knock BOTH Trump and Hillary it draws votes from Trump because there are some Rs wavering still not agreeing to vote for their party's nominee, but who would never vote for Hillary.  So knocking the both still hurts Trump. 

Hillary ain't gonna get much from GetBig, except for group identity politics and free shit handout types.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2016, 10:19:21 PM
Powell lied to the american people, knowingly.
hilary lied a shitload too.

I don't find either of them credible.  hilary saying "Powell told me he used private email..." might be a lie, but we're talking about the word of two proven public liars. 

Everyone has their own take.  I think she's full of shit on this, personally.  But it's 2 non-credible people here. 
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: TuHolmes on August 21, 2016, 10:20:49 PM
Colin Powell sure ain't helping liar Hillary in People Magazine this week:

"Her people have been trying to pin it on me," Powell, 79, told PEOPLE Saturday night at the Apollo in the Hamptons 2016 Night of Legends fête in East Hampton, New York."

http://www.people.com/article/colin-powell-hillary-clinton-pinning-email-scandal-on-him

Loathesome.  This is People magazine, not some right wing website.  Reaches lots of soccer moms

What does that have to do with you claiming they are "flocking to him" in droves you said?

Of course they are trying to pin all of her fuckups on a previous administration. What changing of the guard administration doesn't? Obama did it, Reagan did it, Clinton did it, Bush II did it... It's what happens.

I'm not saying they are right by trying to blame him. That's bullshit, but it really doesn't equate to them flocking to him.

I wish neither Trump nor Hillary were the choices, but they are what they are...
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 21, 2016, 10:21:59 PM
You are deliberately ignoring the TIMING, the crucial point Powell is making.  She said he suggested it.  He said she was already using it for a YEAR.  

Didn't the bush white house just magically lose tens of millions of emails?  "we didn't keep backups" was their line?  bwahahaha

much easier to do than deal with this hilary nonsense.  i bet nobody would be upset this year if obama decides to 'lose' millions of emails.  

It we're 78 days before election, and the best support of trump is "i think hilary is a bigger liar than powell when it comes to what he said about some emails".... well, repubs are FCKED if this is the case.

Tell us why trump is mature, prepared, and emotionally ready to be prsident.  Sorry to be the one to tell you, but 10 weeks until election day, and THIS is the discussion?  hilary loves this.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 21, 2016, 10:27:14 PM
Nope.  It's all listed & linked with evidence here.   It took ten years for the info on public record to discredit Powell, but it did.  He called it the low point of his career.

Lie After Lie After Lie: What Colin Powell Knew Ten Years Ago Today and What He Said
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jonathan-schwarz/colin-powell-wmd-iraq-war_b_2624620.html

I like powell, I think he was just following orders for a bunch of chickenhawks that wanted war.  He's a good soldier and a good man.  He he did knowingly exaggerate and he did know it wasn't true.  Please click that link and read his words, and what the evidence showed us.  He knew.  Not debatable.

I read it. Either you didn't, or you're just not honest. Again, WHERE DID HE LIE? Just some leftist "reporter" from a leftist website calling him a liar is all. You didn't even read it, did you?

"Low point" because it all proved to be unwarranted, so no shit. Fuck off with your nonsense propaganda -you're no better than these lying Trump fucks.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 21, 2016, 10:31:37 PM
Exaggerated what? He went by the intelligence at hand. That everybody had and agreed was solid.

And he didn't make up anything, you're simply lying.

lol geez hans blix went in there and said there's nothing it's no secret they made up a story about it.

you need to know this!
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 21, 2016, 10:34:37 PM
I read it. Either you didn't, or you're just not honest. Again, WHERE DID HE LIE? Just some leftist "reporter" from a leftist website calling him a liar is all. You didn't even read it, did you?

"Low point" because it all proved to be unwarranted, so no shit. Fuck off with your nonsense propaganda -you're no better than these lying Trump fucks.

are you aware there is oil in iraq?

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/03/18_blix.shtml
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: SF1900 on August 21, 2016, 10:42:02 PM
Ahhhh, shit, now Colin Powell is corrupt. Man, I actually thought he was a good dude. Heck, now I know why I don't vote. No one remains honest in politics.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 21, 2016, 10:46:44 PM
lol geez hans blix went in there and said there's nothing it's no secret they made up a story about it.

you need to know this!

1) Why are you answering for dipshit?

2) Any idea how many countries believed they had them, Mr. Hindsight? Did yours?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 21, 2016, 10:47:38 PM
are you aware there is oil in iraq?

http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/03/18_blix.shtml

No shit?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 21, 2016, 10:48:49 PM
Ahhhh, shit, now Colin Powell is corrupt. Man, I actually thought he was a good dude. Heck, now I know why I don't vote. No one remains honest in politics.

Yes, he's corrupt.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: SF1900 on August 21, 2016, 10:53:18 PM
240, how are you able to balance both sides of the argument and come up with a logical, coherent political view? I've noticed this about you. So many others lack this ability. But, you pull it off pretty damn well. How?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 21, 2016, 10:55:09 PM
Yes, 240. How does one do thus?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 21, 2016, 10:57:35 PM
1) Why are you answering for dipshit?

2) Any idea how many countries believed they had them, Mr. Hindsight? Did yours?

nobody believed that, it's was a huge scandal britain and poland went along I think, the UN didn't approve it.

It's been a decade time to get up to speed on this stuff.

Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 21, 2016, 11:43:33 PM
nobody believed that, it's was a huge scandal britain and poland went along I think, the UN didn't approve it.

It's been a decade time to get up to speed on this stuff.



Nobody, then. That's your answer?

And what the fuck does "it's been a decade" have to do with Powell's understanding back then? Dude, you're Trumper dumb as well.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Super Natural on August 22, 2016, 02:14:35 AM
Doesn't the always end up posting like 100 posts talking to himself at the end of any political thread he is in?  It is sad.  I've seen it with others on other sites.  No one will engage them in their looniness, so they end up arguing with themselves.

These are all internet arguments anyway, in the real world you see the person, how they dress, their demeanor, their grooming, their gut, etc., and that probably tells you how their bread is buttered in 2 seconds.

The majority like this you will find were undisciplined kids, having had a lifelong exposure (in their most often fatherless upbringings) to intense feminist liberal media propaganda and topped off with a socialist influenced college education. It's no surprise the result is an overall Low T/high E, low self-esteem, irrational guilt, blame and dislike for their own race/gender > a kind of sick liberal brain virus.

I doubt something even as powerful as organic sweet potato bee pollen would help these people.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mr.turbo on August 22, 2016, 03:21:13 AM
Nobody, then. That's your answer?

And what the fuck does "it's been a decade" have to do with Powell's understanding back then? Dude, you're Trumper dumb as well.

NOBODY
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Super Natural on August 22, 2016, 03:37:50 AM
http://nypost.com/2016/08/21/american-journalism-is-collapsing-before-our-eyes/
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 22, 2016, 06:11:46 AM
It was actually the precedent. 
Powell & condi Rice staffers received classified info via personal email.   

It's not the precedent if you don't find out about it til a YEAR after you set yours up.  That is called a retroactive justification, also known as an excuse.

They ain't pinning that shit on me!
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 22, 2016, 06:16:51 AM
We don't know that Hilary didn't know. 
We just know that Powell told her a year later. 
I'm sure someone told Powell, I'm sure someone told condi. 

Regardless, trump is losing because he's inept, immature, reckless and poorly educated on global issues.  And his supporters don't want to talk about that
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 22, 2016, 06:27:17 AM
The majority like this you will find were undisciplined kids, having had a lifelong exposure (in their most often fatherless upbringings) to intense feminist liberal media propaganda and topped off with a socialist influenced college education. It's no surprise the result is an overall Low T/high E, low self-esteem, irrational guilt, blame and dislike for their own race/gender > a kind of sick liberal brain virus.

I doubt something even as powerful as organic sweet potato bee pollen would help these people.

This really is the truth.  People exposed to politically correct propaganda that labels everyone a racist and a sexist and a homophobe, sucking up to their "betters" all throughout the process by virtue signaling and parroting their mushy headed logic back.  The younger the person today, the more likely they've been indoctrinated.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Red Hook on August 22, 2016, 06:29:14 AM
Trump: vote for me, I will put more cops in your area.  You don't need universal health or abortions.  
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 22, 2016, 07:10:26 AM
This really is the truth.  People exposed to politically correct propaganda that labels everyone a racist and a sexist and a homophobe, sucking up to their "betters" all throughout the process by virtue signaling and parroting their mushy headed logic back.  The younger the person today, the more likely they've been indoctrinated.

It also creates paranoia as these people are so deathly afraid of saying anything that might be perceived as politically incorrect, and, as a result, having their bonafides questioned. So, they go off the deep end on the other side:

"Bush is Hitler"

"No, Bush is worse than Hitler."

"No, Bush makes Hitler look like Mother Teresa."
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 22, 2016, 07:59:41 AM
h
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 22, 2016, 03:00:13 PM
No. But the majority of black male voters certainly will.

There's never been a time in America history where black voters had a chance to vote for a female Commander and Chief. Lets be honest here, black men don't really have a history of having respect for women. I believe there's going to be a percent of black voters who will tell everyone they know they voted for Hillary. But when it comes to actually sitting in a booth and doing it, idk. There's a percentage of black guys who have sympathy for Sharia Law muzzy's. Now if those Sharia Law sympathizers actually vote, there's next to no chance they could vote for a female to have all that power...
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 22, 2016, 03:04:04 PM
Trump isn't trying to court the african-american vote.

trump is trying to court undecided soccer moms who care about race.

How many blacks are actually Muslims or Crypto Muslims in America? 5%-10% maybe?. These Muslim blacks certainly won't vote for a female with they? Or as someone stated before maybe they won't vote at all and it wont matter...
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: tom joad on August 22, 2016, 03:28:51 PM
Exaggerated what? He went by the intelligence at hand. That everybody had and agreed was solid.

And he didn't make up anything, you're simply lying.

lol
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: timfogarty on August 22, 2016, 03:47:33 PM
How many blacks are actually Muslims or Crypto Muslims in America? 5%-10% maybe?. These Muslim blacks certainly won't vote for a female with they? Or as someone stated before maybe they won't vote at all and it wont matter...

your premise is that Muslims cannot support a female candidate for religious reasons, yet Pakistan had a female prime minister from 88-90 and 93-96.  Indonesia has had a female president since 2001.  Turkey, Senegal, Bangladesh, Iran, Mali, Kosovo, and Maurits all have had female heads of state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_female_political_leaders

The only presidential poll of American Muslims I find is from March, and shows Clinton with 4 times the support of Trump.  Surely Trump has done nothing since then to win over American Muslims.

https://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/13423-cair-super-tuesday-poll-shows-muslim-voters-support-hillary-clinton-concerned-about-islamophobia.html

Religious Muslims have no problem with voting for Clinton because she's a woman.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on August 22, 2016, 03:51:34 PM
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Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Twaddle on August 22, 2016, 05:19:53 PM
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Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 22, 2016, 05:26:35 PM
It's not the precedent if you don't find out about it til a YEAR after you set yours up.  That is called a retroactive justification, also known as an excuse.

They ain't pinning that shit on me!

250 NutbustInHisMouth can't differentiate between an email account for private email (Powell) and using a government server for classified material with setting up a goddamn private server in your basement to avoid abiding by the law.

Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 22, 2016, 05:41:48 PM
h

I'll give you credit, this is funny, only thing it's missing for my taste is a lot of lettuce.  Trump's definitely got that.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 22, 2016, 05:48:46 PM
What I find funny is Timmy bending over backwards and forwards to defend Moslems:

(http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2014/10-overflow/20141030_aapl.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Kwon on August 22, 2016, 05:52:05 PM
It's not the precedent if you don't find out about it til a YEAR after you set yours up.  That is called a retroactive justification, also known as an excuse.

They ain't pinning that shit on me!

Yeh
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 22, 2016, 06:39:03 PM
There's never been a time in America history where black voters had a chance to vote for a female Commander and Chief. Lets be honest here, black men don't really have a history of having respect for women. I believe there's going to be a percent of black voters who will tell everyone they know they voted for Hillary. But when it comes to actually sitting in a booth and doing it, idk. There's a percentage of black guys who have sympathy for Sharia Law muzzy's. Now if those Sharia Law sympathizers actually vote, there's next to no chance they could vote for a female to have all that power...

There's never been a time in American history where ANYONE'S had the female candidate thing (Commander IN Chief, by the way). Still, it's simple:

"Fuck bitches/hos" vs. "I love gubment money." Which benefits THEM more, c'mon?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 22, 2016, 06:46:42 PM
lol

Without even checking, I'd bet my soul you post on the Conspiracy Board.

Yeah?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: tom joad on August 22, 2016, 06:57:36 PM
Without even checking, I'd bet my soul you post on the Conspiracy Board.

Yeah?

nope
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: timfogarty on August 22, 2016, 07:01:52 PM
What I find funny is Timmy bending over backwards and forwards to defend Moslems:

The same question asked of Americans in the 1950s well into the 80s would should similar results.  So the Muslim world in general is 30 years behind.  Yet there are many Muslims who are quite accepting.  And with the internet, things are changing faster everywhere.

Yes there are religious extremists who would want me dead.  But that includes evangelical Christians, fundamentalist Jews, fundamentalist Muslims, and fundamentalist Hindi.  There are also lots of power hungry people who use religion to control and mobilize their masses.

What I try not to do is judge an entire group of people by their most extreme members. 
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 22, 2016, 07:25:51 PM
The same question asked of Americans in the 1950s well into the 80s would should similar results.  So the Muslim world in general is 30 years behind.  Yet there are many Muslims who are quite accepting.  And with the internet, things are changing faster everywhere.

Yes there are religious extremists who would want me dead.  But that includes evangelical Christians, fundamentalist Jews, fundamentalist Muslims, and fundamentalist Hindi.  There are also lots of power hungry people who use religion to control and mobilize their masses.

What I try not to do is judge an entire group of people by their most extreme members. 

Yeah it's only like 30 percent or so, don't judge them all that way.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 22, 2016, 07:52:27 PM
nope

My soul is eternally damned, then.

But you still got nothing.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 22, 2016, 07:55:19 PM
The same question asked of Americans in the 1950s well into the 80s would should similar results.  So the Muslim world in general is 30 years behind.  Yet there are many Muslims who are quite accepting.  And with the internet, things are changing faster everywhere.

Yes there are religious extremists who would want me dead.  But that includes evangelical Christians, fundamentalist Jews, fundamentalist Muslims, and fundamentalist Hindi.  There are also lots of power hungry people who use religion to control and mobilize their masses.

What I try not to do is judge an entire group of people by their most extreme members. 

SO smart, yet SO emotional.

Balance the two.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Never1AShow on August 22, 2016, 08:05:43 PM
15,000 new emails, Sheeit.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Walter Sobchak on August 22, 2016, 08:14:41 PM
15,000 new emails, Sheeit.

Caught in another lie with Colin Powell and 15,000 more pay to play emails. No hiding it now, the other shoe will drop in this batch and she will go down the shitter

And all liberals have to say is....Trump should release his taxes!

Perfect.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mazrim on August 22, 2016, 08:30:47 PM
Caught in another lie with Colin Powell and 15,000 more pay to play emails. No hiding it now, the other shoe will drop in this batch and she will go down the shitter

And all liberals have to say is....Trump should release his taxes!

Perfect.
Staunch Hillary supporters like 240 will quickly try and divert attention by posting about how immature Trump supporters are and then "proving" this by posting a picture about Trump's "small pickle"......
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 22, 2016, 09:21:38 PM
Staunch Hillary supporters like 240 will quickly try and divert attention by posting about how immature Trump supporters are and then "proving" this by posting a picture about Trump's "small pickle"......

hillary belongs in jail for her crimes.  She is also not physically healthy enough to be president.  Not a supporter, I think trump is actually working for her.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 22, 2016, 09:28:24 PM
hillary belongs in jail for her crimes.  She is also not physically healthy enough to be president.  Not a supporter, I think trump is actually working for her.

Fuck off, shill.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: 240 is Back on August 22, 2016, 09:49:03 PM
Trump canceled TWO campaign events.

My belief?  Trump is now refusing to repeat the RNC party line of "amnesty is okay".



Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has reportedly canceled two of his upcoming campaign events.

The reports come after news surfaced Monday that the GOP nominee will be delaying a speech on immigration that was set for later this week amid new questions over his position on the issue.

Trump has canceled a Friday rally in Las Vegas scheduled at the South Point Hotel Casino and Spa, according to the Las Vegas Sun. His campaign didn't say why the event was canceled.

The Republican nominee has also canceled an Aug. 31 rally and fundraiser in Portland, Ore., according to Oregon Public Broadcasting. Trump reportedly canceled the event due to scheduling changes.

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-cancels-two-more-campaign-events-report/ar-BBvVSwY?li=BBnb7Kz
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: The Ugly on August 22, 2016, 10:00:41 PM
Trump canceled TWO campaign events.

My belief?  Trump is now refusing to repeat the RNC party line of "amnesty is okay".



Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has reportedly canceled two of his upcoming campaign events.

The reports come after news surfaced Monday that the GOP nominee will be delaying a speech on immigration that was set for later this week amid new questions over his position on the issue.

Trump has canceled a Friday rally in Las Vegas scheduled at the South Point Hotel Casino and Spa, according to the Las Vegas Sun. His campaign didn't say why the event was canceled.

The Republican nominee has also canceled an Aug. 31 rally and fundraiser in Portland, Ore., according to Oregon Public Broadcasting. Trump reportedly canceled the event due to scheduling changes.

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-cancels-two-more-campaign-events-report/ar-BBvVSwY?li=BBnb7Kz

Shill.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: SF1900 on August 22, 2016, 10:02:17 PM
hillary belongs in jail for her crimes.  She is also not physically healthy enough to be president.  Not a supporter, I think trump is actually working for her.

Bingo, 240. Hit the nail on the head.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: mazrim on August 23, 2016, 03:01:44 AM
hillary belongs in jail for her crimes.  She is also not physically healthy enough to be president.  Not a supporter, I think trump is actually working for her.
Try again. You support her or don't realize that your actions are essentially the same as supporting her. Only time you ever say anything about her is when you are called out for it.
A normal person would not post a kabillion threads/posts every day about Trump. They would be praising the third party candidate/providing info on both sides/tearing into Hillary just as much, etc.

"Oh, look, it's a thread on Bolt and hgh. I'm going to randomly throw in a post about Trump that has nothing to do with it."

You are a consistent liar on these issues as I have shown/you have shown before. You align yourself with Mr. Turbo, lol.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Super Natural on August 23, 2016, 03:21:29 AM
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Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Thin Lizzy on August 23, 2016, 03:22:48 AM
The same question asked of Americans in the 1950s well into the 80s would should similar results.  So the Muslim world in general is 30 years behind.  Yet there are many Muslims who are quite accepting.  And with the internet, things are changing faster everywhere.

Yes there are religious extremists who would want me dead.  But that includes evangelical Christians, fundamentalist Jews, fundamentalist Muslims, and fundamentalist Hindi.  There are also lots of power hungry people who use religion to control and mobilize their masses.

What I try not to do is judge an entire group of people by their most extreme members. 

You're the one living in the 50s, holding on to the idiotic idea that Gays and Moslems are "Brothers" because you're both "Oppressed," and the even more idiotic idea that you're just as likely to be thrown off a building by a Christian or a Jew.

But I'm sure things will change according to your timeframe:

(https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/NA-CK494A_ISLAM_9U_20160613185733.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Super Natural on August 23, 2016, 03:26:07 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Super Natural on August 23, 2016, 03:44:46 AM
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Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Yamcha on August 23, 2016, 03:46:23 AM
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/27191 (https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/27191)

Think she paid this?
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Yamcha on August 23, 2016, 03:49:00 AM
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/theblaze.com (http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/theblaze.com)

Lol @ Glenn Beck. He's losing money, no wonder he's been acting like a drunk again lately. fool.
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Yamcha on August 23, 2016, 03:50:21 AM
It's Valentine's Day. Bill is lonely. Can't get Hillary on the phone.

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/28795 (https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/28795)
Title: Re: Trump grows black support by 6x in a week-"What the hell do you have to lose?"
Post by: Yamcha on August 23, 2016, 03:53:18 AM
Now why would Hillary need information about Provigil?

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/25404 (https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/25404)