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His legs remind me of Franco when he stole the Olympia. He really needed more time. Dexter was right. His legs need much more sweep, lats small and waist wide.
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Good thing dennis wolf wasnt there this year or else he would of destroyed kevin with a calf posedown
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Everyone says that legs go first and it's impossible to have good legs at older age.
Probably true.
But why is that?
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His legs remind me of Franco when he stole the Olympia. He really needed more time. Dexter was right. His legs need much more sweep, lats small and waist wide.
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I don't get why people can't wrap their head around the fact that Kevin's legs were already deteriorating BEFORE he retired. As Dennis James said several times tonight, the legs are the first thing to go and if you don't use it, you lose it. Kevin could train for the next 10 years and his legs would not grow. He lost his foundation. NOW, I think his upper body could fill in more in time, but it would draw too much attention to his atrophied lower body.
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Kevin knew this all the time...thats why he couldent enter the stage with selfconfidence like before...
Thought the judges would be nice to him, but probabably they will put him dead last...I wonder if u could qualify for the Mr O on his own...I doubt...
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Everyone says that legs go first and it's impossible to have good legs at older age.
Probably true.
But why is that?
Lack of attractiveness to schmoes -> less schmoe squats
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Everyone says that legs go first and it's impossible to have good legs at older age.
Probably true.
But why is that?
I believe it's nerve conduction
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Everyone says that legs go first and it's impossible to have good legs at older age.
Probably true.
But why is that?
Joints can't take heavy training as people get older. Kevin says his knees are fine after posting the xrays. However he is not 20 years old anymore. He simply won't be able to punish them like he used to in his prime.
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Everyone says that legs go first and it's impossible to have good legs at older age.
Probably true.
But why is that?
As mentioned, it's a few things, the biggest being a decline in neuromuscular efficiency that seems to favor fast twitch fibers, and the general movement away from heavy training as folks age.
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Should place higher than pakulski. I
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Everyone says that legs go first and it's impossible to have good legs at older age.
Probably true.
But why is that?
Legs, shoulders and triceps. Prob due nerve damage.
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They should have a special Olympia where Dorian, Shawn, Ronnie, milos, ruhl, lee, Jay, Chris, Kevin could all make a comeback and compete in
What do u expect Kevin is 52, legs started to go in his last few Olympias, still one of the best all time ever!!
As sad and bad as it is for Kevin at least we get to see him one last time on stage :'(
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Just look at him ! He looks amazing for only training a year - sure he probably needed more time but wow his upper body stands toe to toe on many of the poses
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Pretty amazing overall.
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People saying he looks dead last and shouldn't be there are crazy, sure hes not going to win or pace high but jeez, they don't make him look like he shouldn't be up there.
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People saying he looks dead last and shouldn't be there are crazy, sure hes not going to win or pace high but jeez, they don't make him look like he shouldn't be up there.
I agree, he hold up very well in a lot of the poses.
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People saying he looks dead last and shouldn't be there are crazy, sure hes not going to win or pace high but jeez, they don't make him look like he shouldn't be up there.
Yesssss
Thisssss
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damn in some poses he really holds his own. his legs really really cost him big time. whats with the theory legs cant come back?
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damn in some poses he really holds his own. his legs really really cost him big time. whats with the theory legs cant come back?
Leg extensions and partial rep leg presses alone will not build Olympia level legs.
You have to do some sort of squatting if your legs are undersized.
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Just look at him ! He looks amazing for only training a year - sure he probably needed more time but wow his upper body stands toe to toe on many of the poses
Of course he could not beat Phil or be top 5. Anybody who believed that is delusional.
But KL giving it his all and stepping on stage among the current top, creating all this hype and the people loving this hype, rooting for KL and once again looking forward to the mister O is what makes this so great. That is what it is all about. And I bet KL thinks the same way. So I do not understand the disappointment folks.
Pretty amazing overall.
People saying he looks dead last and shouldn't be there are crazy, sure hes not going to win or pace high but jeez, they don't make him look like he shouldn't be up there.
I agree, he hold up very well in a lot of the poses.
I agree with all that's being said here - I was totally wrong when I suggested (with insane optimism!) he'd be top 6. BUT, I'm still glad I got up in the middle of the night to see him walk onstage. AND I genuinely think he should finish higher than Pakulski - because of genetics, not nostalgia...
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Leg extensions and partial rep leg presses alone will not build Olympia level legs.
You have to do some sort of squatting if your legs are undersized.
Does schmòe-squatting count..? ;D
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Leg extensions and partial rep leg presses alone will not build Olympia level legs.
You have to do some sort of squatting if your legs are undersized.
lol have you seen heath's quarter rep squats?
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Leg extensions and partial rep leg presses alone will not build Olympia level legs.
You have to do some sort of squatting if your legs are undersized.
Nonsense, please tell me how the muscle fibres in your legs know they are squatting as opposed to doing a leg extension?
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People saying he looks dead last and shouldn't be there are crazy, sure hes not going to win or pace high but jeez, they don't make him look like he shouldn't be up there.
a prime levrone would be a sight to see. hes definitely a good 20lbs off
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He looks incredibly good. He's standing next to current Olympia competitors. And he still looks great!
One of my pet peeves is people coming up with incorrect complicated theories to try to explain something that is blaringly obvious.
Unti an individual proves it wrong and trains legs just like he did when he was younger then we can assume the reason that legs shrink so badly is that most will continue to train upper body in similar fashion as when younger, especially the exercises in which u lay down or sit such as chest and shoulders.
Of course there r always exceptions and I agree some may be due to nerve damage but that can just as likely happen in the cervical region. And if it were do to nerve damage in Kevin's case u wood see a deformity in one of the muscles of the legs. Kevin has been very blessed and appears to have full muscle bellies all all over just as when he was younger.
In this and most cases it's simply because leg TRAINING is the first to go.
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Nonsense, please tell me how the muscle fibres in your legs know they are squatting as opposed to doing a leg extension?
there is a huge difference between the two in terms of leg growth.
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judging by those pics, i would have cedrick and dex at 1 and 2, phil at third
what happened to that oil filled turd ramy that you morons on here said would bring it in this year
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Nonsense, please tell me how the muscle fibres in your legs know they are squatting as opposed to doing a leg extension?
Well for one thing; squats build the hamstrings and glutes and the adductors. 3 large muscles that leg extensions don't touch.
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Nonsense, please tell me how the muscle fibres in your legs know they are squatting as opposed to doing a leg extension?
are you really that stupid?? please kill yourself!
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We should really be proud of him and supportive ! I watched the live stream last night and the camera work was garbage I couldn't see anything !!!
Seeing these pics really impressed neon him - we are all honest yes legs was the biggest setback - but they didn't look that bad just not up to par with the rest of the pack -
Overall though wow he did great - should of put a good two years of training in
Even if he isn't going to win its a win for him- he said he might do the Arnold or some other majors coming up lets see
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People saying he looks dead last and shouldn't be there are crazy, sure hes not going to win or pace high but jeez, they don't make him look like he shouldn't be up there.
Are you just ignoring his legs entirely? Other than the side chest shot he looks terrible. He definitely has that "old man in a masters show" look to him. A bit saggy, waist wider, very weak in the legs and that "I did it guys, I stepped on stage" look on his face.
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Nonsense, please tell me how the muscle fibres in your legs know they are squatting as opposed to doing a leg extension?
It's about the amount of muscle fibers that get recruited during the movements. Squats recruit more muscle fibers.
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Now that I see all of Kevin's comparison shots I thought he looked fantastic. Considering the decade plus off and 5-6 months of prep with father time against him....what he did was pretty awesome.
Good on Kevin!
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could he do a darrem Charles stay 220/230 and do classic with different trunks they use a bit more leg concentration and have fun or go at it?wise or no?
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there is a huge difference between the two in terms of leg growth.
no there isnt, muscles respond to stress, not specific exercises.
It's about the amount of muscle fibers that get recruited during the movements. Squats recruit more muscle fibers.
what is the purpose of the quadriceps muscle?
Well for one thing; squats build the hamstrings and glutes and the adductors. 3 large muscles that leg extensions don't touch.
Im talking specifically the quads.
I get your point about overall workload, leg press work the overall leg and are just as effective as squats, in fact you have less chance of a low back injury with leg press so I would say leg press is better
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He looks fantastic in the chest pose next to Philsulin, but lacking badly and the back and legs. He still looks fantastic though and I'm glad he did this.
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Still prefer Levrone's current physique to the others on the stage with the exaggerated out of proportion quad sweeps and distended bellies.
Look at his face too, lean and healthy looking.
He brought a classic style physique to the stage, which is awesome, and for his age and the limited time is in tremendous shape.
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Still prefer Levrone's current physique to the others on the stage with the exaggerated out of proportion quad sweeps and distended bellies.
Look at his face too, lean and healthy looking.
He brought a classic style physique to the stage, which is awesome, and for his age and the limited time is in tremendous shape.
Vince Taylor or Arnold would be the ideal prototype of the body that your described
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His legs remind me of Franco when he stole the Olympia.
Franco stole the Olympia twice, being the odourous fart Arnold left behind him.
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dexter doesnt get enough credit in my opinion hes been competing forever at the top level i dont think anyone has been as consisten as dexter in the past 30 years.
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dexter doesnt get enough credit in my opinion hes been competing forever at the top level i dont think anyone has been as consisten as dexter in the past 30 years.
Thats the problem. When your body is to balanced u get boring. When u show up every time every year in great shape...its become a general...thats sad. Dexter is just to balanced...almost boring...nothing that pop! Unfortunately...
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Of course he could not beat Phil or be top 5. Anybody who believed that is delusional.
But KL giving it his all and stepping on stage among the current top, creating all this hype and the people loving this hype, rooting for KL and once again looking forward to the mister O is what makes this so great. That is what it is all about. And I bet KL thinks the same way. So I do not understand the disappointment folks.
Hi Phil. Please stop spamming every thread with your copy/paste.
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no there isnt, muscles respond to stress, not specific exercises.what is the purpose of the quadriceps muscle?Im talking specifically the quads.
I get your point about overall workload, leg press work the overall leg and are just as effective as squats, in fact you have less chance of a low back injury with leg press so I would say leg press is better
Maybe, but I think you have more chance of a knee injury during leg press.
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I get your point about overall workload, leg press work the overall leg and are just as effective as squats, in fact you have less chance of a low back injury with leg press so I would say leg press is better
The seat height/angle position relative to the feet plate varies from brand to brand. I haven't found the perfect brand yet, but I've noticed differences when it comes to lower back stress. BTW, the same goes for hip stress.
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Maybe, but I think you have more chance of a knee injury during leg press.
Have you ever had a bad back?
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Still prefer Levrone's current physique to the others on the stage with the exaggerated out of proportion quad sweeps and distended bellies.
Look at his face too, lean and healthy looking.
He brought a classic style physique to the stage, which is awesome, and for his age and the limited time is in tremendous shape.
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yes ;D
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Maybe, but I think you have more chance of a knee injury during leg press.
I agree with that.
I've noticed leg press puts greater strain on my knees.
Though, for building leg size I also find it more effective.
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Now that I see all of Kevin's comparison shots I thought he looked fantastic. Considering the decade plus off and 5-6 months of prep with father time against him....what he did was pretty awesome.
Good on Kevin!
Aside from legs the upper body looks great imho and he definitely holds his own in side poses as well as the front lat spread. Frankly I would prefer to have Levrone's physique than any of the other overmuscled slugs on the Olympia open class who struggle to walk 5 yards.
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I agree with that.
I've noticed leg press puts greater strain on my knees.
Though, for building leg size I also find it more effective.
the amount of weight you can push on a leg press compared to a squat just shows how strong your legs really are, the first thing to go on squats is your back, not your legs, so to avoid blowing a disc you have to use a weight your legs can comfortably cope with.
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Have you ever had a bad back?
No, lucky that way I guess. Actually...now that I think about it, I do remember injuring my back once during pivot press, but never during squats. I did have some knee issues that were brought about by heavy leg pressing. Rehabilitated them by staying away from leg press and sticking to squats and lunges.
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Leg extensions and partial rep leg presses alone will not build Olympia level legs.
You have to do some sort of squatting if your legs are undersized.
Kevin was doing barbell squats for this Olympia prep
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no there isnt, muscles respond to stress, not specific exercises.what is the purpose of the quadriceps muscle?Im talking specifically the quads.
I get your point about overall workload, leg press work the overall leg and are just as effective as squats, in fact you have less chance of a low back injury with leg press so I would say leg press is better
UKJeff
terrible logic
terrible legs
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So as an experiment I showed my girlfriend about four or five pictures of Levrone in the lineup with some other guys, including Phil and Dexter in a few poses. I asked her who she thought had the most appealing physique and she pointed to Kevin and said him by far. She said most of the other guys were gross looking and even asked why some of their stomachs stick out when they don't have any bodyfat. Although she did mention that Dallas McCarver was cute in the face and had nice hair.
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So as an experiment I showed my girlfriend about four or five pictures of Levrone in the lineup with some other guys, including Phil and Dexter in a few poses. I asked her who she thought had the most appealing physique and she pointed to Kevin and said him by far. She said most of the other guys were gross looking and even asked why some of their stomachs stick out when they don't have any bodyfat. Although she did mention that Dallas McCarver was cute in the face and had nice hair.
mclovin what is your view on the huge beast mccarver
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these pics just prove to me there is zero doubt the MARYLAND MUSCLE MACHINE would've totally LevrOWNED these guys in his prime
he is holding his own with a downsized upper body, obviously his legs are nonexistent but in his prime they were just as good as any of these guys
phil should thank God he wasn't born 20 years earlier, he would've never came close to the O
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these pics just prove to me there is zero doubt the MARYLAND MUSCLE MACHINE would've totally LevrOWNED these guys in his prime
he is holding his own with a downsized upper body, obviously his legs are nonexistent but in his prime they were just as good as any of these guys
phil should thank God he wasn't born 20 years earlier, he would've never came close to the O
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id agree with that defiantly Dexter (bloody cocky little midget) Roden, and the rest of them and his conditioning, stage presence, etc would of taken care of Heath, was just watching him in the 1998 mr Olympia routine again after how many years just too show 1 of my kids what he looked like in his prime..he couldn't believe it was the same man...that man would of handed a good ole fashioned 90s ass whipping too that top 6 hard too watch Kevin like that but he's still a bodybuilding legend one of the very best of all time IMO.
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is he bald for good now?
the bald look works well when he was as huge as 97 -98, but this much downsized version it doesn't look badass, it just makes him look older
i hope he can grow his hair back because he looked awesome wearing it in variety of ways
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is he bald for good now?
the bald look works well when he was as huge as 97 -98, but this much downsized version it doesn't look badass, it just makes him look older
i hope he can grow his hair back because he looked awesome wearing it in variety of ways
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Ya he's bald. Looks older all dried out but when he's 8-10% fat he does look younger than most 52 year olds. I bust the guys balls Getbig style but the dude is/was legit...
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is he bald for good now?
the bald look works well when he was as huge as 97 -98, but this much downsized version it doesn't look badass, it just makes him look older
i hope he can grow his hair back because he looked awesome wearing it in variety of ways
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I think it's set in, the alopecia hairloss has hit him, that's why he shaves it all off now :-\
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So as an experiment I showed my girlfriend about four or five pictures of Levrone in the lineup with some other guys, including Phil and Dexter in a few poses. I asked her who she thought had the most appealing physique and she pointed to Kevin and said him by far. She said most of the other guys were gross looking and even asked why some of their stomachs stick out when they don't have any bodyfat. Although she did mention that Dallas McCarver was cute in the face and had nice hair.
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UKJeff
terrible logic
terrible legs
they hold up with the competition
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Over-the-line-Cheath is clearly an arrogant prick by performing his own interpretation of a side chest...
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Over-the-line-Cheath is clearly an arrogant prick by performing his own interpretation of a side chest...
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Looks like your boy roelly didn't make top 5 ;D
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Looks like your boy roelly didn't make top 5 ;D
'my boy'? Hey, I'm not Voodoo Vince Versace :D
Roelly looked great, finally had his mid section under control
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is he bald for good now?
the bald look works well when he was as huge as 97 -98, but this much downsized version it doesn't look badass, it just makes him look older
i hope he can grow his hair back because he looked awesome wearing it in variety of ways
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I bet you are bald midget yourself... i have never encountered a guy that obsessed with other mens hair wtf.
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they hold up with the competition
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Maddy is just an anonymous, out of shape bitch
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Over-the-line-Cheath is clearly an arrogant prick by performing his own interpretation of a side chest...
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Upper chest and shoulders look like full of SEO or similar on Philsulina.
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Nonsense, please tell me how the muscle fibres in your legs know they are squatting as opposed to doing a leg extension?
They know, mister....they know. 8)
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In this and most cases it's simply because leg TRAINING is the first to go.
x2 Lotsa smaller ot bigger injuries, a bit of arthritis, people telling them to stop moving big weights. So they stop and do some high rep leg press and leg extensions (which are very bad for thevknees, btw). And the legs shrink like a flaccid wiener in a cold shower.
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They should have a special Olympia where Dorian, Shawn, Ronnie, milos, ruhl, lee, Jay, Chris, Kevin could all make a comeback and compete in
What do u expect Kevin is 52, legs started to go in his last few Olympias, still one of the best all time ever!!
As sad and bad as it is for Kevin at least we get to see him one last time on stage :'(
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A Special Olympia? Lol. They do... It's called the Mr. Olympia.
Just like actual Special Olympians, once a year these people with mental disorders get to showcase their talents.
The difference is that Special Olympians have actual athletic ability, while the O contestants just need to hike that thong into their cystic assholes deep enough so the judges can view their injection sites for comparison.
Bodybuilding related because a Shriver founded Special Olympics...
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x2 Lotsa smaller ot bigger injuries, a bit of arthritis, people telling them to stop moving big weights. So they stop and do some high rep leg press and leg extensions (which are very bad for thevknees, btw). And the legs shrink like a flaccid wiener in a cold shower.
dr dutchster did you see kevins half ass back workout, where he was training with weights he couldnt handle and doing half reps on most exercises
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these pics just prove to me there is zero doubt the MARYLAND MUSCLE MACHINE would've totally LevrOWNED these guys in his prime
he is holding his own with a downsized upper body, obviously his legs are nonexistent but in his prime they were just as good as any of these guys
phil should thank God he wasn't born 20 years earlier, he would've never came close to the O
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In the side chest, Kevin's conditioning and crispness is still unreal. Midsection looks diced. No one else on that stage had that look.
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A Special Olympia? Lol. They do... It's called the Mr. Olympia.
Just like actual Special Olympians, once a year these people with mental disorders get to showcase their talents.
The difference is that Special Olympians have actual athletic ability, while the O contestants just need to hike that thong into their cystic assholes deep enough so the judges can view their injection sites for comparison.
Bodybuilding related because a Shriver founded Special Olympics...
Lol brutal. No constructive feedback though :D
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Lol brutal. No constructive feedback though :D
Point taken. Lol.
Ok.... They did have a "special" Olympia for those competitors who were a little older and could only access yesteryear's gear. The Masters Olympia.
Didn't that shit the bed a few years ago?
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They had a masters Pro show, but after 2006, people kept clowning it.
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classic or if they did 1 masters show with arnold weekend would be perfect for any past or smaller older pro retired or just fading
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I bet you are bald midget yourself... i have never encountered a guy that obsessed with other mens hair wtf.
i have only made a few comments on his hair over the years, i think you are confusing me with halo
i have hair just like Mr. Levrone at the 94 olympia, sometimes i change it up to how he wore it in 2000
nobody in my family is bald so i plan on having this hairstyle until the day i die
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i have only made a few comments on his hair over the years, i think you are confusing me with halo
i have hair just like Mr. Levrone at the 94 olympia, sometimes i change it up to how he wore it in 2000
nobody in my family is bald so i plan on having this hairstyle until the day i die
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Didnt u say u wear your hair in a ponytail like Kevin did in one of his shows?
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Didnt u say u wear your hair in a ponytail like Kevin did in one of his shows?
never had a ponytail
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never had a ponytail
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I know Kevin did in one of his shows
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I know Kevin did in one of his shows
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91 jr. nationals
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Kevin could train for the next 10 years and his legs would not grow.
ahh, by that logic he shouldn't be able to put on so much size, as he did, on his upper body either.
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some people have the genes for legs, others don't. It's like anything else, genetics. Would rather have that than the T rex problem.
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some people have the genes for legs, others don't. It's like anything else, genetics. Would rather have that than the T rex problem.
his legs were a strong point in the 90's, his only true weakness at his peak is his back in the back double bicep pose
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Still an admirable physique
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Still an admirable physique
Pretty sure that most guys would rather have Kevin's build.
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Pretty sure that most guys would rather have Kevin's build.
Exactly.
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I know Kevin did in one of his shows
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Look at these Quadzilla wheels !!
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Pretty sure that most guys would rather have Kevin's build.
Seconded. I'm actually inspired to hit the weights harder from his short comeback.
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Pretty sure that most guys would rather have Kevin's build.
Everyone would, that's not deranged in the head :D