Getbig Bodybuilding, Figure and Fitness Forums

Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: King Shizzo on September 29, 2016, 02:46:04 PM

Title: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on September 29, 2016, 02:46:04 PM
My dick, suck it
Your mouth, shut it

Your words mean nothing because in the end, he's in jail and I'm living the dream. How do you like them apples?

He's a piece of shit. Deal with it. You've been making excuses for him for a while Mr. Christian man. He'd fuck you over just as soon as anyone else. Let's not forget he's a deadbeat, a racist, a drug addict, a narcissist and a general piece of shit that had no intention of changing and this is the guy you stick up for. You have a sewed view of judgement.

Put your money where your bitch ass mouth is you whiny little c unt.

I thought so you genetic reject. Stay in your lane your mutated accident.


Man of Steel's rebuke:

Wiggs, in just a few hours of a single day your post history quickly reveals that you do not serve Jesus Christ in anyway whatsoever.

You serve the "so called" BHI.  And I rebuke you openly because you pervert the true witness of genuine believers in Christ.

I've watched for years now this pattern of disrespect to others and the commands of the Lord you claim to hold dear.  It's shameful and an open rebuke is deserved.

Regardless, I find absolutely no evidence that Holy Spirit is within you and hopefully that causes you to rethink exactly whom you serve because I believe you to be a better man than this.

Proverbs 15:4
4 A wholesome tongue is a tree of life: but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.

Proverbs 8:13
13 The fear of the Lord is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.

1 Peter 3:10
10 For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:


Who is more deserving of heaven?

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on?
Post by: Man of Steel on September 29, 2016, 02:47:30 PM
Be on the side of Jesus Christ.

None of us deserve heaven.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on?
Post by: Man of Steel on September 29, 2016, 02:49:20 PM
The gospel message (or "good news") is quite simple in that Jesus Christ died on Calvary's cross to pay for humanity's sins so that we may escape God's wrath and judgment and be forever aligned with him in righteousness.  This sacrificial, loving act of God is his greatest gift to his creation.

The path to salvation is expressed nicely in Romans 10:9:

9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved

Saved from what?  You're saved from God's wrath and judgment that every one of us deserves because of our sin.  We have all fallen short of God's standards for us and have willfully and woefully chosen to defy him in sin.   We deserve to be separated from his righteousness and his divine attributes once we exit this life.

What is sin?  Sin is an offense against God.  It's a violation of his divine, eternal law.

Some of you may desire to know the reality of God in your lives.   Others may desire to turn away from their current life, turn from their sin and get right with God and be aligned with him in righteousness.

If that is you, simply come to the Lord in prayer.  If you've never prayed before that's perfectly alright.  If you can, go to a quiet, private spot and speak your heart to God humbly.  Confess your sins before him, ask him for forgiveness, surrender to his will for your life and simply believe that Jesus Christ's death on Calvary's cross was sufficient to pay for your sins and by declaring him as your Lord and believing that he is raised from the dead know that you are forever saved. 

From that point forward you are now made a new creature in Christ Jesus and are filled with the Holy Spirit of God who will guide your righteous path for the remainder of your days on this earth.  Once you exit this life you will spend eternity with our blessed God, Lord and savior Jesus Christ.   

If you need help you can PM me and I'd be happy to help as best I'm able.  I encourage everyone to give their heart....give their lives to Jesus!  It is only through Jesus Christ that we can be saved.

God bless you!!
MOS
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on?
Post by: Fortress on September 29, 2016, 02:49:33 PM
God's a beta twink.

HTH
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on?
Post by: Man of Steel on September 29, 2016, 02:51:12 PM
Thank you for the unexpected platform to share the gospel message Shizzo!

God ordains unexpected circumstances to share his grace, glory and justice!

I care nothing about who's on my side....that's as meaningless as I am.  It's about glory to God for his goodness!

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on?
Post by: RatedXXX on September 29, 2016, 02:57:55 PM
I'm not terribly impressed with either one.  You got one who's a conspiracy theory believing, THC scrambled brains, knucklehead and the other who is a holier than thou Bible thumper who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk. I'll take a pass on both of them.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on?
Post by: King Shizzo on September 29, 2016, 02:58:50 PM
I'm not terribly impressed with either one.  You got one who's a conspiracy theory believing, THC scrambled brains, knucklehead and the other who is a holier than thou Bible thumper who talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk. I'll take a pass on both of them.
You must vote for someone. God is watching.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on September 29, 2016, 03:05:48 PM
(http://momland.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/7-candle1.jpg)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Royalty on September 29, 2016, 03:06:36 PM
I'm on MOS's side and Wiggs' side.

Ultimately, they are both on the same side.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on?
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on September 29, 2016, 03:11:19 PM
God's a beta twink.

HTH

No his is not.

(http://i.imgur.com/Lg51w34.jpg)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Pete Nice on September 29, 2016, 03:12:17 PM
Solid Thread.  Should hit at least 8 pages.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: ratherbebig on September 29, 2016, 03:12:48 PM
i voted for mos, but then i read a few walls of text from him and wished i hadnt
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: wes on September 29, 2016, 03:15:07 PM
Gotta agree with Wiggins on this one!!

MOS is still cool though.   ;)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Kwon on September 29, 2016, 03:16:13 PM
There is only ONE God, and his name is Ron Avidan!
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on September 29, 2016, 03:17:02 PM
There is only ONE God, and his name is Ron Avidan!

LOL!
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Bosch on September 29, 2016, 03:21:15 PM
There is only ONE God, and his name is Ron Avidan!
Amen to that.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on September 29, 2016, 03:24:08 PM
There is only ONE God, and his name is Ron Avidan!
Ron is my internet father (I have the pic to prove it) so I was born into a bloodline of divinity. Have any of you guys read the Da Vinci Code?

(http://i60.tinypic.com/2dlpvd3.jpg)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: TuHolmes on September 29, 2016, 03:24:13 PM
I'm shocked more people haven't picked Vince.

How many people has God handed the pink slip to over Goodrum?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Kwon on September 29, 2016, 03:24:57 PM
Add Ron and i'll vote.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: ratherbebig on September 29, 2016, 03:58:15 PM
if ron were god why would he allow for so many shitty threads ?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on September 29, 2016, 04:10:50 PM
Add Ron and i'll vote.

Add "Fuck off" and I will vote.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Grape Ape on September 29, 2016, 04:17:13 PM
Unlike the OP, all on that poll are getbiggers, some of legend status.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 29, 2016, 04:25:08 PM
Superman was an Alien who liked being worshiped as a God-like being...I don't believe the Christian faith allows the worship of anyone but Christ...No "false idols" allowed.

Original Hebrew--  1
Superman -------- 0
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on September 29, 2016, 04:27:51 PM
Unlike the OP, all on that poll are getbiggers, some of legend status.
Is Ocean Pacific even in business anymore?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 29, 2016, 04:33:50 PM
Is Ocean Pacific even in business anymore?

Yes they moved to Egypt and are now called Lake Nasser

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Lake-nasser.jpg)https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWWxSPztmagGmNOvxt Tbl3Dp_2B5jXM0nfs13ju18H xvOVnalGca1LMA(http://)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWWxSPztmagGmNOvxtTbl3Dp_2B5jXM0nfs13ju18HxvOVnalGca1LMA)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on September 29, 2016, 04:34:39 PM
Yes they moved to Africa and are now called Lake Nasser

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Lake-nasser.jpg)

Lake Nasser.
Beautiful Lake with Glasses.
LH15.
,,,
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Skeletor on September 29, 2016, 04:40:18 PM
Yes they moved to Egypt and are now called Lake Nasser

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Lake-nasser.jpg)https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWWxSPztmagGmNOvxt Tbl3Dp_2B5jXM0nfs13ju18H xvOVnalGca1LMA(http://)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWWxSPztmagGmNOvxtTbl3Dp_2B5jXM0nfs13ju18HxvOVnalGca1LMA)

I heard this lake has vast oil deposits.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 29, 2016, 04:42:35 PM
I heard this lake has vast oil deposits.

Heavily polluted Lake where many things die in the lake.lol. May have been what took out the man with glasses...

https://www.dabangasudan.org/en/all-news/article/sudan-s-minerals-minister-admits-to-lake-nasser-pollution

(https://www.dabangasudan.org/uploads/cache/article_detail_image_half_width/uploads/media/54db4fde046fb.jpeg)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: NelsonMuntz on September 29, 2016, 05:26:30 PM
 ::)

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Grape Ape on September 29, 2016, 06:22:15 PM
Is Ocean Pacific even in business anymore?

It will always be to me.   :'(
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Walter Sobchak on September 29, 2016, 06:23:20 PM
Where is the option for the OP sucks cock ?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on September 30, 2016, 02:05:38 AM
Isn't Gluttony considered a sin?  

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=454088.0;attach=499329)

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRCgMcloV74aOLythAyZp_1xbhAbgsyNmU_2RFxUtQ9vqL0rbajbQ)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 04:23:10 AM
Shizzo stop trying to create controversy or throw gas on a fire.

I get so tired of some God haters that get bored and think "let's screw with the stupid religious people tee-hee-hee".

As if I don't recognize from 5 billion miles away what you're doing.

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Tapeworm on September 30, 2016, 04:50:18 AM
My dick, suck it
Your mouth, shut it

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/wwpqfer1gqbg2t54nbry.gif)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: CalvinH on September 30, 2016, 05:06:59 AM
Yes they moved to Egypt Dubai,India and are now called Lake Nasser

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Lake-nasser.jpg)https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWWxSPztmagGmNOvxt Tbl3Dp_2B5jXM0nfs13ju18H xvOVnalGca1LMA(http://)

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQWWxSPztmagGmNOvxtTbl3Dp_2B5jXM0nfs13ju18HxvOVnalGca1LMA)


The only way to settle this is to takes calf raise selfies standing on the bath tub.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: _bruce_ on September 30, 2016, 05:19:14 AM
Even God is afraid of Josh' piercing eyes ... so he was un-chosen.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Rusty Trombone on September 30, 2016, 05:34:57 AM
Isn't Gluttony considered a sin?  

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=454088.0;attach=499329)

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRCgMcloV74aOLythAyZp_1xbhAbgsyNmU_2RFxUtQ9vqL0rbajbQ)
Classy shirt.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on September 30, 2016, 05:50:34 AM
Shizzo stop trying to create controversy or throw gas on a fire.

I get so tired of some God haters that get bored and think "let's screw with the stupid religious people tee-hee-hee".

As if I don't recognize from 5 billion miles away what you're doing.


I am trying to create controversy? Didnt you basically call out Wiggs in your "rebuke"?

Besides, I am still waiting for Wigg's response to what you had to say.

PS, you were thanking me in this thread yesterday for helping you spread the word of God. What changed?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: mazrim on September 30, 2016, 06:21:24 AM
I am trying to create controversy? Didnt you basically call out Wiggs in your "rebuke"?

Besides, I am still waiting for Wigg's response to what you had to say.

PS, you were thanking me in this thread yesterday for helping you spread the word of God. What changed?
^
Get a life, Bubba.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on?
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 06:23:09 AM
Be on the side of Jesus Christ.

None of us deserve heaven.

and thats what Jesus leads you to believe?


Seems a bit of a cnut to me.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 06:33:16 AM
I am trying to create controversy? Didnt you basically call out Wiggs in your "rebuke"?

Besides, I am still waiting for Wigg's response to what you had to say.

PS, you were thanking me in this thread yesterday for helping you spread the word of God. What changed?

"Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!!!  I'm not doing anything!"

The aren't enough eyeroll smileys.   ::)

Atheists consistently provide a platform for me to share the exact thing they despise.   All you're continuing to do is bait Wiggs....gas on a fire.

Reality is, I AM waiting for Wiggs response.   Maybe one will come, maybe it won't....not up to me.  He can take this offline if he chooses.

You're playing a little God hater game for the sake of entertainment.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on September 30, 2016, 06:39:09 AM
You're playing a little God hater game for the sake of entertainment.

How can you hate something that doesn't actually exist?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 06:46:36 AM
and thats what Jesus leads you to believe?


Seems a bit of a cnut to me.

God hates sin. 
God tells people not to sin.
People refuse and choose their sin.
People become corrupted by sin.
People remain separated from God.
People reap consequences of their sin and blame God.
God provides way for people to be free of their sin.
People hate God.


Folks will now begin twisting these seven short statements into something more preferable for them.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on September 30, 2016, 06:49:55 AM
God hates sin. 
God tells people not to sin.
People refuse and choose their sin.
People become corrupted by sin.
People remain separated from God.
People reap consequences of their sin and blame God.
God provides way for people to be free of their sin.
People hate God.


Folks will now begin twisting these seven short statements into something more preferable for them.


Just like god, sin doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 06:53:07 AM
Just like god, sin doesn't exist.

Yep, its just a man made concept

God didnt make man in his image, man made God in his image.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 06:53:19 AM
How can you hate something that doesn't actually exist?


Atheism's patented and ironic combination of suppression, lack of accountability, ignorance and anger.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on September 30, 2016, 06:54:36 AM
Yep, its just a man made concept

God didnt make man in his image, man made God in his image.

True.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on September 30, 2016, 06:55:42 AM
Atheism's patented and ironic combination of suppression, lack of accountability, ignorance and anger.

Or maybe just a simple question.
But your interpretation is interesting...
Probably fits you more.
 ;D
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 06:57:00 AM
Atheism's patented and ironic combination of suppression, lack of accountability, ignorance and anger.
You dont have to believe in aman in the sjy to be a good person.
Just be polite, dont steal anything and dont harm anyone.

Job done.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 07:00:18 AM
Yep, its just a man made concept

God didnt make man in his image, man made God in his image.

God made man in his image, man made himself into God.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 07:03:10 AM
Or maybe just a simple question.
But your interpretation is interesting...
Probably fits you more.
 ;D

Sure it does.   ;)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on September 30, 2016, 07:07:02 AM
Sure it does.   ;)

Good to know.
Anyway it really doesn't make any sense to discuss imaginary concepts...
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 07:09:17 AM
You dont have to believe in aman in the sjy to be a good person.
Just be polite, dont steal anything and dont harm anyone.

Job done.

God doesn't live in the sky.

Goodness is completely subjective.  Attributes of goodness are completely subjective.

One man's evil is another man's good.  Who's right?


Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: RatedXXX on September 30, 2016, 07:10:51 AM
God doesn't live in the sky.

Goodness is completely subjective.  Attributes of goodness are completely subjective.

One man's evil is another man's good.  Who's right?



Gibberish. You talk alot but where's the action? Did you visit Groink in the can? Did you even send him a letter?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 07:10:56 AM
Good to know.
Anyway it really doesn't make any sense to discuss imaginary concepts...


Yet you're involved in almost every G&O religion thread and some on the religion board as well.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 07:12:43 AM
God doesn't live in the sky.

Goodness is completely subjective.  Attributes of goodness are completely subjective.

One man's evil is another man's good.  Who's right?




Dod god tell you that?
Tell me how being polite and not stealing and not causing anyone loss or harm can be a bad thing?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 07:13:48 AM
Gibberish. You talk alot but where's the action? Did you visit Groink in the can? Did you even send him a letter?

It's only gibberish if you're ignorant on the topic.

My life is the action.  I live out my faith daily in every thought, word and deed.   I submit myself to Christ and abide in him.

What does Groink have to do with this thread?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Grape Ape on September 30, 2016, 07:14:10 AM
Did you visit Groink in the can?

We know you want him to visit you in the can.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 07:15:16 AM
Congrats Shizzo, you're getting exactly what you wanted.  Threw blood in the water and the sharks came.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 07:16:12 AM
Congrats Shizzo, you're getting exactly what you wanted.  Threw blood in the water and the sharks came.
You seem to be spoiling for a fight, dont blame shizzo..
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on September 30, 2016, 07:16:44 AM
Yet you're involved in almost every G&O religion thread and some on the religion board as well.

Seems exagerrated...
But yes, I like doing things that make no obvious sense.

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 07:17:56 AM
You seem to be spoiling for a fight, dont blame shizzo..

I addressed Wiggs in a separate thread.  Mods helped Shizzo create this thread.   Folks are attacking me.  3 on 1.  5 on 1.  8 on 1.  Par for the course for me.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 07:20:03 AM
I addressed Wiggs in a separate thread.  Mods helped Shizzo create this thread.   Folks are attacking me.  3 on 1.  5 on 1.  8 on 1.  Par for the course for me.
Stop playing the victim, Jesus would be ashamed of you.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on September 30, 2016, 07:21:40 AM
I addressed Wiggs in a separate thread.  Mods helped Shizzo create this thread.   Folks are attacking me.  3 on 1.  5 on 1.  8 on 1.  Par for the course for me.

Where are those attacks you speak of?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 07:25:52 AM
X2. No one told MOS to come here and respond to Shizzo. He's as guilty as Shizzo, yet passing the blame solely to Shizzo.  :-\ :-\ Both are equally contributing to a 10 page thread.

Stop playing the victim, Jesus would be ashamed of you.

Where are those attacks you speak of?

I virtually stopped posting in early May....came back around Olympia time. 

No one noticed I was gone for months.  No one cared.  No one said a thing. 

I've posted a bit more regularly after the O and yesterday in response to Wiggs.

Now, SUDDENLY, all the atheists are slinking their way to this thread.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 07:30:27 AM
Been rapid fire replies....now, crickets.

I'm out.  ;D
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 07:36:21 AM
Been rapid fire replies....now, crickets.

I'm out.  ;D
Its because no one gives a fuck about your opinion, thats why no one missed you for six months, its like when God botherers come knocking at your door, they are a nuisance when they are there, if they dont knock you never give them a second thought.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: mazrim on September 30, 2016, 07:56:29 AM
Man of Steel causing meltdowns again....
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2016, 09:12:57 AM
Its because no one gives a fuck about your opinion, thats why no one missed you for six months, its like when God botherers come knocking at your door, they are a nuisance when they are there, if they dont knock you never give them a second thought.

You can see how flawed his logic is. Because he stopped posting, then started to post again, we are all attacking him and its "rapid fire."

Whether or not someone posts, it makes no difference. If someone stops posting for months, then comes back, they will roughly receive the same treatment as they did prior to when they stopped posting.

MOS is making it seem like since no one cared he was gone, we are not allowed to respond to him when he comes back lol.

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: TuHolmes on September 30, 2016, 09:15:24 AM
You can see how flawed his logic is. Because he stopped posting, then started to post again, we are all attacking him and its "rapid fire."

Whether or not someone posts, it makes no difference. If someone stops posting for months, then comes back, they will roughly receive the same treatment as they did prior to when they stopped posting.

MOS is making it seem like since no one cared he was gone, we are not allowed to respond to him when he comes back lol.



Very few of us are noticed when we leave for any amount of time.

We are people on a message board. We are not people that see each other regularly, or have Thanksgiving dinner with.

It's not shocking that if you skip for a bit, that you may not be missed, especially on a short term.

We all of our own lives, families, personal things... We text, chat, whatever, but to miss someone or inquire about them, that's going to take more than a few months. Could be years.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2016, 09:30:31 AM
Very few of us are noticed when we leave for any amount of time.

We are people on a message board. We are not people that see each other regularly, or have Thanksgiving dinner with.

It's not shocking that if you skip for a bit, that you may not be missed, especially on a short term.

We all of our own lives, families, personal things... We text, chat, whatever, but to miss someone or inquire about them, that's going to take more than a few months. Could be years.

That doesn't make sense. Clearly, MOSs logic makes more sense.  :D :D :-\ :-\

I virtually stopped posting in early May....came back around Olympia time.

No one noticed I was gone for months.  No one cared.  No one said a thing.

I've posted a bit more regularly after the O and yesterday in response to Wiggs.

Now, SUDDENLY, all the atheists are slinking their way to this thread.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 09:37:49 AM
Point is this fellas.  I know the VAST majority on this board despise me and my "bible thumping" ways.

Since I publically professed my faith I've lost 99% of the people I used to be cool with.  

That said, my motivations for remaining here have nothing to do with personal acceptance LOL.   I'm not accepted, I'm just barely tolerated...this is no mystery.

The fact that I haven't been here for months in and of itself is of no consequence.  Yet the fact that I haven't been and within the first religion post on the G&O the usual suspects suddenly appear out of nowhere with the same cliches and generalities about not caring about God, religious topics, etc...it's so transparent.

See I don't actually post within threads that don't interest me or make comments about topics I don't care about.....I ignore them.   Yet here I am speaking about religion (to a single poster) and the sharks swarm because Shizzo dropped blood in the water.

But of course everything I say is deemed wrong or my perspective is flawed.  Why?  Because my audience lives diametrically opposed to me.  I'm clearly the outcast, but yet "I'm playing the victim card"  :'(  LOL!!!  ;D   Ok.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on September 30, 2016, 09:45:07 AM
MOS, I am not an athiest. I am agnostic, my friend.

Why do you think the mods helped me make this thread?

This thread is here for a few reasons:

1. For Wiggs to answer your judgements of him.

2. As a tool for you to continue teaching the word of God.

Don't get discouraged. You are doing the Lord's work.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 09:48:27 AM
MOS, I am not an athiest. I am agnostic, my friend.

Why do you think the mods helped me make this thread?

This thread is hear for a few reasons:

1. For Wiggs to answer your judgements of him.

2. As a tool for you to continue teaching the word of God.

Don't get discouraged. You are doing the Lord's work.

You're a true friend.


 ::)


Going forward, any future, similar comments like those to Wiggs will be addressed via PM.

It was my mistake making them public.

Shizzo had the mods remove them from the original thread, create a new thread, add a poll about it thereby inciting the sharks to mockery.....live and learn.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on September 30, 2016, 09:49:19 AM
The way is stony but narrow.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2016, 09:50:43 AM
I'm on MOS's side and Wiggs' side.

Ultimately, they are both on the same side.

This is exactly it. MOS doesn't realize that he is pretty much just like WIGGS. The only difference is that WIGGS has the guts to speak out. MOS and WIGGS are two sides of the same coin.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 09:56:29 AM
This is exactly it. MOS doesn't realize that he is pretty much just like WIGGS. The only difference is that WIGGS has the guts to speak out. MOS and WIGGS are two sides of the same coin.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.  None whatsoever.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 09:58:49 AM
Point is this fellas.  I know the VAST majority on this board despise me and my "bible thumping" ways.

Since I publically professed my faith I've lost 99% of the people I used to be cool with.  

That said, my motivations for remaining here have nothing to do with personal acceptance LOL.   I'm not accepted, I'm just barely tolerated...this is no mystery.

The fact that I haven't been here for months in and of itself is of no consequence.  Yet the fact that I haven't been and within the first religion post on the G&O the usual suspects suddenly appear out of nowhere with the same cliches and generalities about not caring about God, religious topics, etc...it's so transparent.

See I don't actually post within threads that don't interest me or make comments about topics I don't care about.....I ignore them.   Yet here I am speaking about religion (to a single poster) and the sharks swarm because Shizzo dropped blood in the water.

But of course everything I say is deemed wrong or my perspective is flawed.  Why?  Because my audience lives diametrically opposed to me.  I'm clearly the outcast, but yet "I'm playing the victim card"  :'(  LOL!!!  ;D   Ok.


to despise you first people have to care, no one cares what you do.
Believe in God or Mickey Mouse, either way you will get your leg pulled.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 10:02:30 AM
to despise you first people have to care, no one cares what you do.
Believe in God or Mickey Mouse, either way you will get your leg pulled.
Well I've had people on here tell me that they hate me, that they're going to rape my wife, that they're going to rape my daughter while I watch, they curse me out, they've threatened my life and they generally revile everything I have to say.

But "Be There" it's clear you care nothing about me at all.   And I'm just fine with that.   God bless.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 10:04:15 AM
Well I've had people on here tell me that they hate me, that they're going to rape my wife, that they're going to rape my daughter while I watch, they curse me out, they've threatened my life and they generally revile everything I have to say.

But "Be There" it's clear you care nothing about me at all.   And I'm just fine with that.   God bless.
I have had similar,I know its all talk, I dont take it seriously, its what happens here, its a cesspit but its an addictive one.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 10:12:58 AM
I have had similar,I know its all talk, I dont take it seriously, its what happens here, its a cesspit but its an addictive one.

See I'm well aware the vast majority don't give a lick about what I preach on here.  

I also understand that those that threaten me are sheep in actuality....I fear none of it.  

Although, there is definite hatred at times.  I can say that because I've dealt with it consistently for 6 years now.

Still, I'm not here to get the 99.9% of folks that don't care about me to care about me.  That pursuit is meaningless and so am I.

I'm here to help the 0.1% of folks that desire to repent and be saved and come to know the risen Lord Jesus Christ.

You personally find that worthless and stupid.  To that I say "ok and God bless".
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2016, 10:16:11 AM
MOS making blanket statements to make it seem like every atheist is saying vile things about his wife and child.

Typical theist tactic; try to lump all atheists into one category, as if we are all vile creatures, who are going to do harm to someone.

I, for one, have never said such vile things about MOS's family, nor anyone on this board.

But, of course, MOS leaves out this part. How convenient (not all atheists are saying this stuff to him).  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on September 30, 2016, 10:17:04 AM
I'm here to help the 0.1% of folks that desire to repent and be saved and come to know the risen Lord Jesus Christ.

Maybe you are the 0,1% of folks that should be cured from that god-jesus-believe-fetish.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 10:17:59 AM
See I'm well aware the vast majority don't give a lick about what I preach on here.  

I also understand that those that threaten me are sheep in actuality....I fear none of it.  

Although, there is definite hatred at times.  I can say that because I've dealt with it consistently for 6 years now.

Still, I'm not here to get the 99.9% of folks that don't care about me to care about me.  That pursuit is meaningless and so am I.

I'm here to help the 0.1% of folks that desire to repent and be saved and come to know the risen Lord Jesus Christ.

You personally find that worthless and stupid.  To that I say "ok and God bless".

I really hope you are trolling....
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Las Vegas on September 30, 2016, 10:31:28 AM
Is conscience wholly subjective?

 ???

That's what I want to know.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: TuHolmes on September 30, 2016, 10:39:35 AM
Point is this fellas.  I know the VAST majority on this board despise me and my "bible thumping" ways.

Since I publically professed my faith I've lost 99% of the people I used to be cool with.  

That said, my motivations for remaining here have nothing to do with personal acceptance LOL.   I'm not accepted, I'm just barely tolerated...this is no mystery.

The fact that I haven't been here for months in and of itself is of no consequence.  Yet the fact that I haven't been and within the first religion post on the G&O the usual suspects suddenly appear out of nowhere with the same cliches and generalities about not caring about God, religious topics, etc...it's so transparent.

See I don't actually post within threads that don't interest me or make comments about topics I don't care about.....I ignore them.   Yet here I am speaking about religion (to a single poster) and the sharks swarm because Shizzo dropped blood in the water.

But of course everything I say is deemed wrong or my perspective is flawed.  Why?  Because my audience lives diametrically opposed to me.  I'm clearly the outcast, but yet "I'm playing the victim card"  :'(  LOL!!!  ;D   Ok.


Come on man... despise? Dude, I'm not really religious, but you seem like a good, decent person, with or without any "God".

I can't believe people "despise" and actually "hate" someone because they have their faith.

That seems a stretch man.
MOS making blanket statements to make it seem like every atheist is saying vile things about his wife and child.

Typical theist tactic; try to lump all atheists into one category, as if we are all vile creatures, who are going to do harm to someone.

I, for one, have never said such vile things about MOS's family, nor anyone on this board.

But, of course, MOS leaves out this part. How convenient (not all atheists are saying this stuff to him).  ::) ::)

Nor have I. I have nothing bad to say about people who are decent and good people. That's crazy talk.

I wouldn't want to talk religion with MoS, but I'd be happy to just talk about anything else.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: tommywishbone on September 30, 2016, 10:41:56 AM
Wiggs.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 11:14:57 AM
MOS making blanket statements to make it seem like every atheist is saying vile things about his wife and child.

Typical theist tactic; try to lump all atheists into one category, as if we are all vile creatures, who are going to do harm to someone.

I, for one, have never said such vile things about MOS's family, nor anyone on this board.

But, of course, MOS leaves out this part. How convenient (not all atheists are saying this stuff to him).  ::) ::)

Folks please notice that I said "people".  I didn't call out atheists or any group specifically.   SF forced the term "every atheist" into his reply and attributed it to me in order to make his argument.  It's transparent, fallacious and dishonest.

SF also repeatedly uses the term "typical theist" in his arguments and I counter and defeat it every single time without fail.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 11:22:40 AM
Come on man... despise? Dude, I'm not really religious, but you seem like a good, decent person, with or without any "God".

I can't believe people "despise" and actually "hate" someone because they have their faith.

That seems a stretch man.
Nor have I. I have nothing bad to say about people who are decent and good people. That's crazy talk.

I wouldn't want to talk religion with MoS, but I'd be happy to just talk about anything else.

Well, I didn't state that everyone felt that way.  I said the vast majority.  That leaves a small population of of folks that disagree with me yet don't show contempt.  

You would fall into the group that respectfully disagrees.

Don't allow SF to misdirect my words or outright change them into something different because it creates a greater impact in his reply.

The inflammatory comments are his and his alone.   I consistently have to do this sort of cleanup, but I'm prepared for it today so it's easier.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 11:27:49 AM
I really hope you are trolling....

Why?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: RatedXXX on September 30, 2016, 11:29:39 AM
Well, I didn't state that everyone felt that way.  I said the vast majority.  That leaves a small population of of folks that disagree with me yet don't show contempt.  

You would fall into the group that respectfully disagrees.

Don't allow SF to misdirect my words or outright change them into something different because it creates a greater impact in his reply.

The inflammatory comments are his and his alone.   I consistently have to do this sort of cleanup, but I'm prepared for it today so it's easier.
The fact is if you were the real deal you would be at the very least writing a letter to Groink. You could also work in the soup kitchen on the weekend or help distribute clothing donations to the poor. From what I can tell, you do nothing but talk up a storm. Talking isn't doing.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2016, 11:31:18 AM
Come on man... despise? Dude, I'm not really religious, but you seem like a good, decent person, with or without any "God".

I can't believe people "despise" and actually "hate" someone because they have their faith.

That seems a stretch man.
Nor have I. I have nothing bad to say about people who are decent and good people. That's crazy talk.

I wouldn't want to talk religion with MoS, but I'd be happy to just talk about anything else.

MOS loves changing the goal posts haha lol. He makes a blanket statement that atheists attack him on this board, but he NEVER said that its NOT ALL atheists. He conveniently left that part out.  ::) ::) Then he thinks he shoots me down when I say "typical theist." lol. His GENERALIZED comment is clear evidence that he is generalizing to all atheists on this board. And, we all know, he meant atheists, and was not referring to others.  ::) ::)

Again, him and WIGGS are two sides of the same coin. Wiggs just speaks open and honestly.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 11:58:11 AM
The fact is if you were the real deal you would be at the very least writing a letter to Groink. You could also work in the soup kitchen on the weekend or help distribute clothing donations to the poor. From what I can tell, you do nothing but talk up a storm. Talking isn't doing.


You don't know a thing about me outside of this board.  You can literally say anything you want about what I do or don't do. 

My audience is God alone.  So you believe I'm all talk.  And?

And again, why do you continue to reference Groink? 
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 11:59:52 AM
MOS loves changing the goal posts haha lol. He makes a blanket statement that atheists attack him on this board, but he NEVER said that its NOT ALL atheists. He conveniently left that part out.  ::) ::) Then he thinks he shoots me down when I say "typical theist." lol. His GENERALIZED comment is clear evidence that he is generalizing to all atheists on this board. And, we all know, he meant atheists, and was not referring to others.  ::) ::)

Again, him and WIGGS are two sides of the same coin. Wiggs just speaks open and honestly.

You change/move the goalposts when you alter your words or position.  Mine are unchanged.....sorry, but the truth is a wonderful place to exist.  Give it a try.  

Atheists/agnostics have attacked me for years....no mystery here.   Omission or exclusion of a statement or intention does not equate to being complicit.   You forcefit that subjectivity upon the argument because you can't argue against the truth....so you pervert it to your own end.   You're transparent and easily handled.

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on September 30, 2016, 12:10:34 PM
You change/move the goalposts when you alter your words or position.  Mine are unchanged.....sorry, but the truth is a wonderful place to exist.  Give it a try.  

Atheists/agnostics have attacked me for years....no mystery here.   Omission or exclusion of a statement or intention does not equate to being complicit.   You forcefit that subjectivity upon the argument because you can't argue against the truth....so you pervert it to your own end.   You're transparent and easily handled.



What truth?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 12:11:10 PM
What truth?


My position...grounded in Christ...absolute truth.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 12:15:16 PM
My position...grounded in Christ...absolute truth.
did it ever occur to you at any point no matter how insignificant you might just be wrong about the existence of a God?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 12:17:12 PM
did it ever occur to you at any point no matter how insignificant you might just be wrong about the existence of a God?

It used to.  I no longer have any doubt.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on September 30, 2016, 12:17:33 PM
My position...grounded in Christ...absolute truth.

It is just your personal truth.
Not the one and only (right way)...
which doesn't exist anyway.

Regarding your absence...
I have been absent also.
When I came back you weren't there.
But appeared soon after.
You could say I missed you a little.

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 12:18:12 PM
It used to.  I no longer have any doubt.

so you are prone to changing your mind about things, thats good to know.

You might snap out of it soon.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 12:19:33 PM
It is just your personal truth.
Not the one and only (right way)...
which doesn't exist anyway.

Regarding your absence...
I have been absent also.
When I came back you weren't there.
But appeared soon after.
You could say I missed you a little.



truth grounded in Christ
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 12:21:20 PM
so you are prone to changing your mind about things, thats good to know.

You might snap out of it soon.

I said I no longer have any doubt.  Mind is permanently made up...the decision is set because the reality is known undeniably.  

Like SF you conflated my words and infused "prone".....your word and inference not mine.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2016, 12:36:05 PM
It is just your personal truth.
Not the one and only (right way)...
which doesn't exist anyway.

Regarding your absence...
I have been absent also.
When I came back you weren't there.
But appeared soon after.
You could say I missed you a little.



Again, MOS and Wiggs are 2 sides of the same coin. MOS just doesn't see it. Wiggs is just honest about his feelings. He wont hide behind things.

MOS will easily say things like, "Well, I didn't say that directly," but we all know what he was inferring. I don't need him to refer directly to atheists, we all know that's who he was referring to. At least Wiggs has the guts to be straight about it.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 12:52:37 PM
Again, MOS and Wiggs are 2 sides of the same coin. MOS just doesn't see it. Wiggs is just honest about his feelings. He wont hide behind things.

MOS will easily say things like, "Well, I didn't say that directly," but we all know what he was inferring. I don't need him to refer directly to atheists, we all know that's who he was referring to. At least Wiggs has the guts to be straight about it.

MOS says this.  MOS will do this.  Theists say this.  Theists will say that.

Dude, you're always wrong.....always.  You either enjoy being wrong or don't care about being dishonest.

 



Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: SF1900 on September 30, 2016, 12:58:10 PM
MOS says this.  MOS will do this.  Theists say this.  Theists will say that.

Dude, you're always wrong.....always.  You either enjoy being wrong or don't care about being dishonest.

 





MOS, this is the only time I will directly respond to you.

I will rarely ever use 100% of the time, but I think I can safely say it now. 100% of the time the people who give you crap on this board are atheists. Its not other religious folk. Thus, its quite clear the people who you were referring to in regards to threats directed toward you, were atheists. You surely weren't talking about the religious folk.

Stop being dishonest with yourself. We all know WHO you meant, even if you never directly said it.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 01:18:40 PM
MOS, this is the only time I will directly respond to you.

I will rarely ever use 100% of the time, but I think I can safely say it now. 100% of the time the people who give you crap on this board are atheists. Its not other religious folk. Thus, its quite clear the people who you were referring to in regards to threats directed toward you, were atheists. You surely weren't talking about the religious folk.

Stop being dishonest with yourself. We all know WHO you meant, even if you never directly said it.

Some were definitely atheists.  Others didn't claim to be so I don't know.  Either way, I didn't say an entire group is one way or another.  You are forcing that upon my words despite me making absolutely clear the reality.   You simply refuse it because it means admitting you were wrong and you don't do that.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on September 30, 2016, 01:27:23 PM
Like I noted before if I have issue with other believers you can bet I will only PM going forward.

I would hope they do the same if they have issue with me.

Live and learn.

Shizzo your trust with me is completely broken.

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on September 30, 2016, 01:57:28 PM
(https://annainherwonderland.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/100th_.jpg)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: illuminati on September 30, 2016, 02:01:02 PM
Well I've had people on here tell me that they hate me, that they're going to rape my wife, that they're going to rape my daughter while I watch, they curse me out, they've threatened my life and they generally revile everything I have to say.

But "Be There" it's clear you care nothing about me at all.   And I'm just fine with that.   God bless.








That's the down side of Getbig.
I would doubt any one really hates you - well I hope not.
It's a internet board - And there are an awful lot of very
Rough & Tough Keyboard Warriors here.  ::)

As you know I'm An atheist - only religion & religious people
I dislike & and totally do not trust is The Muslim religion
& Follwers of That Religion.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: RatedXXX on September 30, 2016, 02:01:49 PM
MOS refuses to discuss his lack of actual demonstration of his Chriatianity in his day to day life. He pontificates that Groink deserves the chance to grow and change, but does he minister to him? Does he visit him in the bin or at the very least write to him or send him a Bible? No. You see, MOS views Groink's difficulty as merely a means with which to aggrandize himself.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: NelsonMuntz on September 30, 2016, 02:07:44 PM
(https://annainherwonderland.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/100th_.jpg)

do you even exercise? This is a bodybuilding forum and even the site owner is into hiking and shit.

you? you're just a fat alcoholic troll who loves being delusional, tries to make himself relevant(your not) and ogle greased up musclemen.

even the mayor competed for fuck sakes, and he looked good back in the day.

you? a disgusting blob who has no reason to be here except to troll and look at greased up musclement while pretending not to be gay and has never even commented on a woman on this site lol.

Vince says it best here




You're speaking as if you're an equal to Avesher....you're not.  That's the problem with you, Shizzo.  You think that because you've been posting here for 12 years that you are important and you've been going around trying to convince everyone that you are You are of no importance to Getbig.  You bring nothing to the table.  You are neither a bodybuilder, commentator, radio show host, journalist, fitness guru, drug dealer etc.  You have no actual involvement in the industry whatsoever.  The "Legendary Getbiggers" have at the very least had some involvement in the bodybuilding and/or fitness industry in some way.  Even the True Adonis was a guest on MD No Bull Radio and did the Mr. Getbig.  You have no irons in the fire, you have no skin in the business.  You have not lived for the sport or even picked up a weight for that matter.  You have not contributed anything significant to Getbig.  You were even humiliated and banned on RX Muscle and MD which is why you came back here....posting under the title "King Shizzo" as if someone knows or even cares about you.


Shizzo, all you want from Getbig is to be accepted and admired but the truth is that you're not a "Legendary Getbigger" and you'll never be one of us because you have done absolutely nothing to earn the title.  You're no Adonis, you're no Squadfather, you're no Avesher, you're no OneMoreRep, you're no Fozzle, you're no Mindspin, you're no MartyChampions, you're no anabolichalo, you're no WillGrant, you're no Wiggs, you're no stuntmovie, you're no 240, you're no SoulCrusher....you are absolutely nothing.  You simply don't exist as an actual "somebody" on Getbig other than that loser who was so desperate to be accepted by random people on Getbig that you wrapped your lips around another man's dick and sucked it clean and then posted about it.  Its just sad.....I'm sorry.  I would tell you to shoot yourself in the head but it would be a waste of a good bullet.  You are neither loved or hated...you simply don't belong here.  Please stop pestering people and just go away.....far away.



Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Erik C on September 30, 2016, 02:08:27 PM
As you know I'm An atheist - only religion & religious people
I dislike & and totally do not trust is The Muslim religion
& Follwers of That Religion.

The psychotic muslims are impossible to live with. Given the choice of having psychotic muslims, or neurotic jumping jesus jerkoffs, being around me, I prefer the latter group.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: illuminati on September 30, 2016, 02:19:01 PM
The psychotic muslims are impossible to live with. Given the choice of having psychotic muslims, or neurotic jumping jesus jerkoffs, being around me, I prefer the latter group.





YES - Totally agree
👍🏻
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on September 30, 2016, 02:27:25 PM
Like I noted before if I have issue with other believers you can bet I will only PM going forward.

I would hope they do the same if they have issue with me.

Live and learn.

Shizzo your trust with me is completely broken.


Dude, what are you talking about? Don't change who you are, just because you are facing resistance. Did early Christians yield under the power and fear of the Roman aristocracy? No, many of them died for what they believed in.


MOS, do you honestly believe what you wrote here?:

You're a true friend.


 ::)


Going forward, any future, similar comments like those to Wiggs will be addressed via PM.

It was my mistake making them public.

Shizzo had the mods remove them from the original thread, create a new thread, add a poll about it thereby inciting the sharks to mockery.....live and learn.
The mods had nothing to do with this thread. I swear to God.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on September 30, 2016, 02:33:27 PM
Wiggs avoiding this thread like the book of Revelations.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=436617.0;attach=480923;image)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: bigmc on September 30, 2016, 05:02:10 PM
shizzo the pole smoker and poll starter
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Walter Sobchak on September 30, 2016, 08:37:47 PM
I am trying to create controversy? Didnt you basically call out Wiggs in your "rebuke"?

Besides, I am still waiting for Wigg's response to what you had to say.

PS, you were thanking me in this thread yesterday for helping you spread the word of God. What changed?

I'm not a religious man, but I'd find eternal happiness if I got to nail you to a cross with railroad spikes before setting it on fire.

I'd film it for YouTube so others could share in the fellowship
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on September 30, 2016, 08:47:50 PM
I'm not a religious man, but I'd find eternal happiness if I got to nail you to a cross with railroad spikes before setting it on fire.

I'd film it for YouTube so others could share in the fellowship
You can nail me anytime, stud.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Walter Sobchak on September 30, 2016, 08:50:56 PM
You can nail me anytime, stud.

Truth grounded in Christ....

Many men have whipped out their dicks and facefucked Shizzo
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on September 30, 2016, 08:53:10 PM
Man of Steel has completely owned and humiliated Wiggs. It appears that the voters also agree.

If this persists, then we may have to put an APB out.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on September 30, 2016, 08:58:29 PM
Truth grounded in Christ....

Many men have whipped out their dicks and facefucked Shizzo
Blasphemy!  I only facefuck Getbiggers figuratively.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/120/253697111_6427454ece_z.jpg?zz=1)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Chidoman on September 30, 2016, 09:02:09 PM
Truth grounded in Christ....

Many men have whipped out their dicks and facefucked Shizzo

(http://imgit.org/i/2016/09/10/9bd5fcf84f7a3864ce72727060b26b4d.jpg)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Walter Sobchak on September 30, 2016, 09:07:59 PM
Wiggs avoiding this thread like the book of Revelations.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=436617.0;attach=480923;image)

This chocolate marshmallow claims 19 inch arms....

Dumber than one of Goodrum's bitch tits
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on September 30, 2016, 09:08:40 PM
Wiggs is currently browsing the forums. If he does not respond to MOS's rebuke, then it will be considered an official owning.

You can't hide from the eyes of God, Wiggs.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on September 30, 2016, 09:18:46 PM
And.......Wiggs logs off (and hides) again.

MOS, maybe you do have someone watching over you  ???

Epic ownage.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: bigmc on October 01, 2016, 01:27:57 AM
wiggs destroying shizz in this thread
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 01, 2016, 01:34:23 AM
wiggs destroying shizz in this thread

Agreed.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on October 01, 2016, 03:48:47 AM
(http://images02.imikimi.com/image/2zxDa-4jfbZ-1.gif?height=400&password=qzDyiP8DXY&scale=max&width=400)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on October 01, 2016, 05:15:01 AM
I also think that MOS needs to apologize to the moderators of Getbig.

MOS accused the mods of helping make this thread in multiple posts.

Anyone can make a poll, Christian.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Tapeworm on October 01, 2016, 05:16:44 AM
Wiggs is currently browsing the forums. If he does not respond to MOS's rebuke, then it will be considered an official owning.

You can't hide from the eyes of God, Wiggs.

Consider has a wishy-washiness, as if someone could change his mind on a whim.  Or new evidence could arrive by bicycle courier at any moment and reverse opinion.  

Logged, on the other hand, has a finality.  There's no mind to change.  It's in the record and it's there to stay.  It implies the existence of a record, over which your hover, pen in hand.  And it has a lovely lumberjack quality to it.

I have therefore modified your post accordingly.  I am sure you will agree it is much improved.

Master Wiggins is currently browsing the forums. Should he fail to take up arms against this sea of troubles it will be logged as an official owning.

You can't hide from the eyes of Caucasian Jesus, Wiggs.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 01, 2016, 05:17:02 AM
Anyone can make a poll

How?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on October 01, 2016, 05:21:24 AM
How?

Nah, that info is reserved for Getbig Elders. If you can't figure it out on your own, you do not belong.

 
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 01, 2016, 05:24:52 AM
Nah, that info is reserved for Getbig Elders. If you can't figure it out on your own, you do not belong.

So you admit you can't do it?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on October 01, 2016, 05:27:18 AM
So you admit you can't do it?

Ummmm......I can make a poll whenever I want.

Are you suggesting that I am a Mod's gimmick account?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 01, 2016, 05:29:27 AM
Ummmm......I can make a poll whenever I want.

Are you suggesting that I am a Mod's gimmick account?

If you can do the math the result is clear.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on October 01, 2016, 05:37:28 AM
If you can do the math the result is clear.

I was never good in math  :-*
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 01, 2016, 05:38:40 AM
I was never good in math  :-*

Thanks for the confirmation.

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on October 01, 2016, 05:52:39 AM
Thanks for the confirmation.


(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/74/79/0d/74790d4b0d5a3c2b49e572db405907f4.jpg)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on October 01, 2016, 06:05:12 AM
Thank you for the unexpected platform to share the gospel message Shizzo!

God ordains unexpected circumstances to share his grace, glory and justice!

I care nothing about who's on my side....that's as meaningless as I am.  It's about glory to God for his goodness!


Thanks MOS! God works in mysterious ways.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on October 01, 2016, 06:13:52 AM
According to this poll, Black lives do not matter so much.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Tapeworm on October 01, 2016, 06:40:55 AM
I'd like to see the results of the poll.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Yamcha on October 01, 2016, 06:44:23 AM
GetBig truly is the Sodom and Gomorrah of the Internet.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: mazrim on October 01, 2016, 07:07:20 AM
Next up....Shizzo posts over and over again in a row attempting to be humorous/recognized.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 01, 2016, 07:12:53 AM
Next up....Shizzo posts over and over again in a row attempting to be humorous/recognized.

Too bad he is only a gimmick...
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Tapeworm on October 01, 2016, 07:14:48 AM
GetBig truly is the Sodom and Gomorrah of the Internet.

So they were all about the ass in Sodom.  Not sure how the population kept getting replenished but whatever.  What did they do in Gomorrah?  Not give you the correct change or something?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 01, 2016, 07:18:00 AM
What did they do in Gomorrah?

Unfortunately not a single eye-witness survived...
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Wiggs on October 01, 2016, 07:28:03 AM
None of you are even Hebrews, therefore you automatically DON'T MATTER. Now my black ass isnt going matter if I don't follow those laws statues, and commandments as well.

You blithering dumbfucks didn't even know who the real chosen people are. You don't even know who you people are in the bible. So fuck off every last one of you. You have some balls beleiving you're going to teach the bible to a Hebrew. So take your Eurocentric bullshit lies sit on them and spin.
Fuck white Jesus, fuck your pagan days, fuck your twisted christianity, fuck those fake ass identity theives that call themselves Jews and are not but are the synagogue of Satan.

Sit down, shut up, listen and learn. And Man of Steel, sit your pasty self righteous ass down Mr. Heathen. You honestly don't know shit. You  an watch and think you know all you want about Hebrews. You honestly don't know shit.

That's my response to this thread.

Good Day Gents.  :-*

Get at me if your really want to know what's in the Bible and what it means. Otherwise, fuck off.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: bigmc on October 01, 2016, 07:40:15 AM
shizzo will be wanking himself unconcious

cause wiggs replied

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Tapeworm on October 01, 2016, 07:46:25 AM
My privilege when

(https://themindlessphilosopher.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/ferrisbueller-smirk.jpg?w=676)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Yamcha on October 01, 2016, 07:49:48 AM
None of you are even Hebrews, therefore you automatically DON'T MATTER. Now my black ass isnt going matter if I don't follow those laws statues, and commandments as well.

You blithering dumbfucks didn't even know who the real chosen people are. You don't even know who you people are in the bible. So fuck off every last one of you. You have some balls beleiving you're going to teach the bible to a Hebrew. So take your Eurocentric bullshit lies sit on them and spin.
Fuck white Jesus, fuck your pagan days, fuck your twisted christianity, fuck those fake ass identity theives that call themselves Jews and are not but are the synagogue of Satan.

Sit down, shut up, listen and learn. And Man of Steel, sit your pasty self righteous ass down Mr. Heathen. You honestly don't know shit. You  an watch and think you know all you want about Hebrews. You honestly don't know shit.

That's my response to this thread.

Good Day Gents.  :-*

Get at me if your really want to know what's in the Bible and what it means. Otherwise, fuck off.

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on October 01, 2016, 01:13:49 PM
None of you are even Hebrews, therefore you automatically DON'T MATTER. Now my black ass isnt going matter if I don't follow those laws statues, and commandments as well.

You blithering dumbfucks didn't even know who the real chosen people are. You don't even know who you people are in the bible. So fuck off every last one of you. You have some balls beleiving you're going to teach the bible to a Hebrew. So take your Eurocentric bullshit lies sit on them and spin.
Fuck white Jesus, fuck your pagan days, fuck your twisted christianity, fuck those fake ass identity theives that call themselves Jews and are not but are the synagogue of Satan.

Sit down, shut up, listen and learn. And Man of Steel, sit your pasty self righteous ass down Mr. Heathen. You honestly don't know shit. You  an watch and think you know all you want about Hebrews. You honestly don't know shit.

That's my response to this thread.

Good Day Gents.  :-*

Get at me if your really want to know what's in the Bible and what it means. Otherwise, fuck off.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Skeletor on October 01, 2016, 01:16:14 PM
None of you are even Hebrews, therefore you automatically DON'T MATTER. Now my black ass isnt going matter if I don't follow those laws statues, and commandments as well.

You blithering dumbfucks didn't even know who the real chosen people are. You don't even know who you people are in the bible. So fuck off every last one of you. You have some balls beleiving you're going to teach the bible to a Hebrew. So take your Eurocentric bullshit lies sit on them and spin.
Fuck white Jesus, fuck your pagan days, fuck your twisted christianity, fuck those fake ass identity theives that call themselves Jews and are not but are the synagogue of Satan.

Sit down, shut up, listen and learn. And Man of Steel, sit your pasty self righteous ass down Mr. Heathen. You honestly don't know shit. You  an watch and think you know all you want about Hebrews. You honestly don't know shit.

That's my response to this thread.

Good Day Gents.  Kiss

Get at me if your really want to know what's in the Bible and what it means. Otherwise, fuck off.


WE WUZ KINGZ N SHIET

 8)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Kwon on October 01, 2016, 01:17:10 PM
None of you are even Hebrews, therefore you automatically DON'T MATTER. Now my black ass isnt going matter if I don't follow those laws statues, and commandments as well.

You blithering dumbfucks didn't even know who the real chosen people are. You don't even know who you people are in the bible. So fuck off every last one of you. You have some balls beleiving you're going to teach the bible to a Hebrew. So take your Eurocentric bullshit lies sit on them and spin.
Fuck white Jesus, fuck your pagan days, fuck your twisted christianity, fuck those fake ass identity theives that call themselves Jews and are not but are the synagogue of Satan.

Sit down, shut up, listen and learn. And Man of Steel, sit your pasty self righteous ass down Mr. Heathen. You honestly don't know shit. You  an watch and think you know all you want about Hebrews. You honestly don't know shit.

That's my response to this thread.

Good Day Gents.  :-*

Get at me if your really want to know what's in the Bible and what it means. Otherwise, fuck off.

ShotsWatermelon and KFC-bits fired at Man of Steel!  :D ;D

(http://65.media.tumblr.com/535040d85c68a8bf1cd2bdd2d9b27d3a/tumblr_mzo6n6EIQh1t5g5v1o1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 01, 2016, 01:18:18 PM
(http://65.media.tumblr.com/535040d85c68a8bf1cd2bdd2d9b27d3a/tumblr_mzo6n6EIQh1t5g5v1o1_500.jpg)

^He is making the 666 handsign...
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Kwon on October 01, 2016, 01:19:41 PM
^He is making the 666 handsign...
Illuminati-sign = Satan-sign right? Not Spiderman-sign anymore?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 01, 2016, 01:33:48 PM
Illuminati-sign = Satan-sign right? Not Spiderman-sign anymore?

http://tinyurl.com/jdxa6hq
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Kwon on October 01, 2016, 01:37:01 PM
http://tinyurl.com/jdxa6hq

Ah, thanks. Never seen that, but then again i'm not up to date with Satanism :D
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 01, 2016, 01:39:20 PM
Ah, thanks. Never seen that, but then again i'm not up to date with Satanism :D

LOL.
That's good.
Better stay away.
It will drag you down.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: FREAKgeek on October 01, 2016, 02:01:21 PM
Point is this fellas.  I know the VAST majority on this board despise me and my "bible thumping" ways.

Since I publically professed my faith I've lost 99% of the people I used to be cool with.  

That said, my motivations for remaining here have nothing to do with personal acceptance LOL.   I'm not accepted, I'm just barely tolerated...this is no mystery.

The fact that I haven't been here for months in and of itself is of no consequence.  Yet the fact that I haven't been and within the first religion post on the G&O the usual suspects suddenly appear out of nowhere with the same cliches and generalities about not caring about God, religious topics, etc...it's so transparent.

See I don't actually post within threads that don't interest me or make comments about topics I don't care about.....I ignore them.   Yet here I am speaking about religion (to a single poster) and the sharks swarm because Shizzo dropped blood in the water.

But of course everything I say is deemed wrong or my perspective is flawed.  Why?  Because my audience lives diametrically opposed to me.  I'm clearly the outcast, but yet "I'm playing the victim card"  :'(  LOL!!!  ;D   Ok.


You love every minute of it.

Mathew 5:10-11.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: syntaxmachine on October 01, 2016, 05:52:27 PM
Christ is none too pleased with the vapidity of the discussion at hand

(https://s9.postimg.org/7edu6i5pr/Christ_in_the_Wilderness_Ivan_Kramskoy_Googl.jpg)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: TuHolmes on October 01, 2016, 07:12:27 PM

The mods had nothing to do with this thread. I swear to God.

I thought the mods were constantly doing bad things?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: The Scott on October 01, 2016, 08:01:35 PM
The only reason Wiggs is black is because he is full of crap.  He would lose his minority status were he to talk like this in person to people as he would likely get so much dung beat out of him he would be a vile pasty white.

Couple his blatant racist hatred of whitey (except of course, for any women) and his ignorant rantings of black supremacy (ancient Greece and modern Africa come to mind), is it any wonder his wife left him?   

Our own Evil Kneegro keeps jumping  the Great White Shark.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: chaos on October 01, 2016, 08:50:22 PM
I thought the mods were constantly doing bad things?
I try but PrincessL keeps me on a short leash. :P
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: jk2016 on October 01, 2016, 09:21:43 PM
 i thought mods generally have sense of humar  ???
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Skeletor on October 01, 2016, 10:35:45 PM
i thought mods generally have sense of humar  ???

(http://pre11.deviantart.net/1206/th/pre/i/2015/041/2/c/humar_the_pridelord_reference_by_kfcemployee-d8hijv3.jpg)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 02, 2016, 04:21:11 AM
i thought mods generally have sense of humar  ???
(http://t00.deviantart.net/qtPeC49TtX6YthdET6HW3evJry8=/300x200/filters:fixed_height%28100,100%29:origin%28%29/pre12/a885/th/pre/f/2007/086/0/3/wow___humar_the_pridelord_by_kuroryujin.jpg)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 02, 2016, 01:09:55 PM
None of you are even Hebrews, therefore you automatically DON'T MATTER. Now my black ass isnt going matter if I don't follow those laws statues, and commandments as well.

You blithering dumbfucks didn't even know who the real chosen people are. You don't even know who you people are in the bible. So fuck off every last one of you. You have some balls beleiving you're going to teach the bible to a Hebrew. So take your Eurocentric bullshit lies sit on them and spin.
Fuck white Jesus, fuck your pagan days, fuck your twisted christianity, fuck those fake ass identity theives that call themselves Jews and are not but are the synagogue of Satan.

Sit down, shut up, listen and learn. And Man of Steel, sit your pasty self righteous ass down Mr. Heathen. You honestly don't know shit. You  an watch and think you know all you want about Hebrews. You honestly don't know shit.

That's my response to this thread.

Good Day Gents.  :-*

Get at me if your really want to know what's in the Bible and what it means. Otherwise, fuck off.


Thanks for the so called reply.

I've highlighted in so called red the so called portions of your so called post with so called incorrect, incomplete or offensive ideas concerning so called religion, the so called bible and so called God.

You do the so called same!  

So called MOS
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2016, 01:11:56 PM
I'll always stand with Man of Wiggs and Steel.


He has a good heart. (although being a religious nut)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 02, 2016, 01:14:20 PM
I'll always stand with Man of Wiggs and Steel.


He has a good heart. (although being a religious nut)

Still NUTZ the man.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2016, 01:19:39 PM
Still NUTZ the man.


Still NUTZ the belief! But the Man can still be changed.

He just needs to change his way of thinking of Peace.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 02, 2016, 01:21:43 PM
Still NUTZ the belief! But the Man can still be changed.

He just needs to change his way of thinking of Peace.

True.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 02, 2016, 01:24:46 PM
Still NUTZ the belief! But the Man can still be changed.

He just needs to change his way of thinking of Peace.

Wiggs can be changed.  I will never change my faith in Jesus Christ....no offense meant.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 02, 2016, 01:25:50 PM
Wiggs can be changed.  I will never change my faith in Jesus Christ....no offense meant.

Change is progress.
 ;)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: RatedXXX on October 02, 2016, 01:30:59 PM
I see alot of hypocrisy in The Man Of Steel. I have rebuked him publicly and now I have rebuked him privately. He needs to learn a life on Christ isn't a series of snarky posts on the Internet. He must walk the walk.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 02, 2016, 01:52:09 PM
I see alot of hypocrisy in The Man Of Steel. I have rebuked him publicly and now I have rebuked him privately. He needs to learn a life on Christ isn't a series of snarky posts on the Internet. He must walk the walk.

rebuke of my faith in Jesus Christ now publically (and privately) noted by the poster named RatedXXX   :D
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 02, 2016, 01:53:20 PM
Change is progress.
 ;)

So true...noted in my diary entry for today.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2016, 01:55:02 PM
As I said before, there is not much difference between Wiggs and Man of Steel. Their Gods are similar in many ways.

Wiggs just has the guts to lay it on the table, whereas MOS does not.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: RatedXXX on October 02, 2016, 02:04:27 PM
She looks like a whore.



Well done!!   



I'll give you credit to TA, you're puttin on some good size.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 02, 2016, 02:10:52 PM
As I said before, there is not much difference between Wiggs and Man of Steel. Their Gods are similar in many ways.

Wiggs just has the guts to lay it on the table, whereas MOS does not.

It's funny how you refuse to admit that the opposite has been demonstrated.  Oh well, it's completely inconsequential.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 02, 2016, 02:12:43 PM
She looks like a whore.



Well done!!  



I'll give you credit to TA, you're puttin on some good size.


Yes, from approximately July/August 2010 to as far back as is available on my current GB history you'll find all sorts of terrible posts.

I leave my post history fully intact so people can review for themselves the change Christ has made in my life.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2016, 02:15:22 PM
She looks like a whore.



Well done!!   


Spoken like a true Christian right there!
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: RatedXXX on October 02, 2016, 02:15:44 PM
Yes, from approximately July/August 2010 to as far back as is available on my current GB history you'll find all sorts of terrible posts.

I leave my post history fully intact so people can review for themselves the change Christ has made in my life.
Have you sought out the individual you called a "whore" and apologized? Have you apologized to her father? Are you walking the walk or merely showing off?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 02, 2016, 02:21:44 PM
Have you sought out the individual you called a "whore" and apologized? Have you apologized to her father? Are you walking the walk or merely showing off?

Unfortunately the board is too anonymous for that, but those that have been here I have and those folks not online in my life I've also spoken to.

Just to give you a heads up.   I've done this particular dance dozens of times.  I'm completely comfortable in these discussions because they bring glory to God.  

As if I've stated already the truth is a wonderful place to exist.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 02, 2016, 02:23:37 PM
Spoken like a true Christian right there!

Nope, not at all, but that's why I leave it there for anyone to search out so they can see the demonstration of a life without Christ and one with Christ.   Glory to God!!
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: RatedXXX on October 02, 2016, 02:26:10 PM
Unfortunately the board is too anonymous for that, but those that have been here I have and those folks not online in my life I've also spoken to.

Just to give you a heads up.   I've done this particular dance dozens of times.  I'm completely comfortable in these discussions because they bring glory to God.  

As if I've stated already the truth is a wonderful place to exist.
So you've gone to True Adonis and asked him for the young lady's contact info? Is that what you're suggesting?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 02, 2016, 02:31:48 PM
So you've gone to True Adonis and asked him for the young lady's contact info? Is that what you're suggesting?

No I haven't done that.  I've simply had too many sins in my former life.  I haven't found the kid from second grade that I got in fight with either to ask forgiveness.  Fortunately my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ has cast all my sins as far as the east is from the west and within his ultimate authority has cleansed me and deemed me righteous.   

But certainly as I encounter folks within my life that I may have wronged I make amends as is appropriate.

How long do you plan to continue this?  I'm the real deal RatedXXX and I can assure you that Jesus Christ wants you to repent of your sins and trust in his atoning work on Calvary's cross.  You too can be freed of the shackles of sin and be made a new man in Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2016, 02:34:33 PM
Nope, not at all, but that's why I leave it there for anyone to search out so they can see the demonstration of a life without Christ and one with Christ.   Glory to God!!

Did you find Christ in 2007 or after?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2016, 02:34:40 PM
lol.....MOS needs to look inside himself to see how he and Wiggs are alike. I made a statement. Nothing more, nothing less. If he lacks insight into how him and Wiggs are alike, then perhaps he needs to do some more self-reflection. Meditating may help. I don't know. Just saying.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 02, 2016, 02:35:59 PM
lol.....MOS needs to look inside himself to see how he and Wiggs are alike. I made a statement. Nothing more, nothing less. If he lacks insight into how him and Wiggs are alike, then perhaps he needs to do some more self-reflection. Meditating may help. I don't know. Just saying.

Basically we are all alike.
It's just the genetic programming/composition that is different...
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 02, 2016, 02:37:58 PM
lol.....MOS needs to look inside himself to see how he and Wiggs are alike. I made a statement. Nothing more, nothing less. If he lacks insight into how him and Wiggs are alike, then perhaps he needs to do some more self-reflection. Meditating may help. I don't know. Just saying.

Hey SF, Wiggs and MOS are different sides of the same coin.  It's been said by me.  Done. 

Did you get want you want?

Let me know and I'll write it differently....however you want.   It's of no consequence to me.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2016, 02:38:33 PM
Basically we are all alike.
It's just the genetic programming/composition that is different...


Wiggs and MOS talk about the same stuff, just in a different manner. Wiggs doesn't "sugar coat" anything.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 02, 2016, 02:40:02 PM
Did you find Christ in 2007 or after?

I didn't truly find Christ until August of 2010.   I was both pretending I was Christian prior to that and/or not a Christian at all.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 02, 2016, 02:40:53 PM
Wiggs and MOS talk about the same stuff, just in a different manner. Wiggs doesn't "sugar coat" anything.

Now I get what you mean.
And yes.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 02, 2016, 02:44:14 PM
Now I get what you mean.
And yes.


It's not shocking that atheists would interpret a situation like this in the exact manner y'all are. 
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 02, 2016, 02:46:55 PM
RatedXXX, did you get what you needed or should I expect more PMs and/or replies here?

Take your time going through my current post history now.  I'll be around some today and again this week off and on.  

Done this dozens of times.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: SF1900 on October 02, 2016, 02:58:20 PM
Now I get what you mean.
And yes.


Exactly. Many others will agree.

Oh well. I guess people just have different levels of how they express themselves.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: RatedXXX on October 02, 2016, 03:43:48 PM
RatedXXX, did you get what you needed or should I expect more PMs and/or replies here?

Take your time going through my current post history now.  I'll be around some today and again this week off and on.  

Done this dozens of times.
You're too busy to apologize a young lady you brutally called "a whore", yet you have time for internet debates?

"You will know them by their fruits"
-Matthew 7:16
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2016, 03:58:28 PM
If Man of Steel was balding and started to use wigs = Man of Wiggs
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: BB on October 02, 2016, 04:34:56 PM
If Man of Steel was balding and started to use wigs = Man of Wiggs

If they were a real tough brand, like the type Morrie's Wigs sold, he could be "Wiggs of Steel".
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2016, 04:38:51 PM
If they were a real tough brand, like the type Morrie's Wigs sold, he could be "Wiggs of Steel".

 :D ;D
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: cephissus on October 02, 2016, 07:01:42 PM
Christ is none too pleased with the vapidity of the discussion at hand

(https://s9.postimg.org/7edu6i5pr/Christ_in_the_Wilderness_Ivan_Kramskoy_Googl.jpg)

:o

Welcome back to another poster with a ten times the clout and one tenth the posts of knave shizzo
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Kwon on October 02, 2016, 08:31:58 PM
(http://oi63.tinypic.com/104gifo.jpg)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: RatedXXX on October 02, 2016, 10:01:09 PM
I challenged MOS on the validity of his religous claims, pointing out some hypocritical, hurtful behavior he engaged in. He welcomed the challenge. I conducted it mainly through PMs. When he tried to brush off his transgressions by glibly saying he's got Jesus now so his rotten behavior from before is okay and he needn't apologize or make amends, I held his feet to the fire. He basically melted down and blocked my messages. I think he believes he's Christian, but he really can't answer any of the deeper questions nor does he practice Christianity in his day to day affairs. Just likes to "sound off".
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: rocket on October 02, 2016, 10:14:46 PM
At least Wiggs is searching for some truth.  He may place his faith, incorrectly - but his mind is open.  Perhaps too open.

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 07:20:11 AM
I challenged MOS on the validity of his religous claims, pointing out some hypocritical, hurtful behavior he engaged in. He welcomed the challenge. I conducted it mainly through PMs. When he tried to brush off his transgressions by glibly saying he's got Jesus now so his rotten behavior from before is okay and he needn't apologize or make amends, I held his feet to the fire. He basically melted down and blocked my messages. I think he believes he's Christian, but he really can't answer any of the deeper questions nor does he practice Christianity in his day to day affairs. Just likes to "sound off".

Exact flow of conversation:

What is your maximum flat bench?

Today as a max it's in the low 400s, but I don't know the exact number.  I wouldn't guess anymore than 425lbs for a single.

I'll still occassionally work up to a final heaviest set of a handful of reps with 405lbs on good heavy chest day, but recently I've been about volume sets with moderate poundages.

Ok. So we can conclude you are a user of steroids or other compounds. Correct?

No, never used any PEDs or any of that stuff.  Tempted to try it many times from age 18 -35, but never followed through.  Tried some creatine a few times (just retained water on it) and other snake oil tablets from GNC or other vitamin stores (fat burners, amino acid tab, Hot Stuff, Cybergencis, etc...).

Today just multi-vit/min, probiotics for digestion, glucosamine for joint health (started it recently and evaluating the "snake-oilyness" of it  :)) and some daily low carb whey protein between meals.

Been blessed with genetic strength, but also suffer from genetic disc issues in back......with the strengths are always some weaknesses unfortunately.

Pro-hormones are drugs. No loopholes and not following the Bible. Case closed.

Are pro-hormones not a part of PEDs?  I don't really know all that stuff and terminology.

Never taken any pro-hormones or PEDs or prescription drugs stuff for muscle building.

I'll never used syringes or prescription tablets or anything like that.

Just used the stuff I've noted already.

Hot Stuff was spiked with steroids

LOL!!  Well, it did nothing for me in high school so I abandoned it halfway through the bottle.  FYI, me and a friend stole the Hot Stuff from a GNC!!

Have you contacted GNC and made amends?

Yes actually.  We were eventually caught by security in another store and our parents contacted.

We went to the different places and spoke with managers and returned things we had and most extended grace when they didn't need to.

So your motive was not in Christ?

As I said I was in high school at the time and 15 years old.

That was almost 30 years ago and I was clearly not living for Christ.

Nor are you now.

Ok, you've had your trolling fun.

Goodbye.


And I blocked his PMs.  The rest of the back and forth is in the last few pages of this thread.

Have fun!
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 07:24:43 AM
At least Wiggs is searching for some truth.  He may place his faith, incorrectly - but his mind is open.  Perhaps too open.



Yes, according to the world the glory is found within the continuous search for truth and never settling.

I find the truth in Christ and I'm therefore less open to things and basically lacking according to the world?

Sounds good to me!!

Folks are intimidated by believers in Christ that won't relent.....they simply don't understand how someone can be completely convinced so they rest on "he's a nutjob" or "he's delusional" or "he's a moron". 
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: bigmc on October 03, 2016, 07:32:26 AM
Yes, according to the world the glory is found within the continuous search for truth and never settling.

I find the truth in Christ and I'm therefore less open to things and basically lacking according to the world?

Sounds good to me!!

Folks are intimidated by believers in Christ that won't relent.....they simply don't understand how someone can be completely convinced so they rest on "he's a nutjob" or "he's delusional" or "he's a moron". 

intimidated is the wrong word

i think any rational person

can see that your truth is a fairy tale

hard to believe an otherwise rational man would believe the nonsense you do

its a weakness a lack of courage to face the harsh reality of our brief existence

that forms the shape of religion

hardly intimidating
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 07:39:24 AM
intimidated is the wrong word

i think any rational person

can see that your truth is a fairy tale

hard to believe an otherwise rational man would believe the nonsense you do

its a weakness a lack of courage to face the harsh reality of our brief existence

that forms the shape of religion

hardly intimidating

I'm curious, how many more lines of atheist cliches can you cram into a single post?  

I'm fairly certain you can add more.

For grins, why don't you take 5 and see what else you can come up with and edit your post.

It's always fun readin the hits!  
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on October 03, 2016, 07:50:13 AM
I'm curious, how many more lines of atheist cliches can you cram into a single post?  

I'm fairly certain you can add more.

For grins, why don't you take 5 and see what else you can come up with and edit your post.

It's always fun readin the hits!  

Faith = the belief in something that deep down you know isnt really true.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: bigmc on October 03, 2016, 07:54:40 AM
I'm curious, how many more lines of atheist cliches can you cram into a single post?  

I'm fairly certain you can add more.

For grins, why don't you take 5 and see what else you can come up with and edit your post.

It's always fun readin the hits!  

you are a walking cliche my friend

im just pointing the facts out big guy  :-*
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 03, 2016, 07:56:54 AM
intimidated is the wrong word

i think any rational person

can see that your truth is a fairy tale

hard to believe an otherwise rational man would believe the nonsense you do

its a weakness a lack of courage to face the harsh reality of our brief existence

that forms the shape of religion

hardly intimidating

I never thought this will happen some day...
but I agree with your post, bigmc.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 08:03:54 AM
you are a walking cliche my friend

im just pointing the facts out big guy  :-*

LOL!! "the facts"

I find it funny how atheists are ignorant on matters of God yet somehow more enlightened as it pertains to the truth of God.  

Funnier still, is the backwards perception of believers who actually are educated and experienced in matters of God yet are called stupid, weak and blind.

The theist reaches out to the atheist to educate and encourage them about God and are met by the atheist with statements of, "I don't need God.  I don't need to learn that fairytale crap.  I don't care about that God stuff.  But I know it's all garbage!"

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 08:04:52 AM
I never thought this will happen some day...
but I agree with your post, bigmc.


I boldly predict that others atheists will feel the exact same way.

LOL!!
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 08:07:11 AM
Faith = the belief in something that deep down you know isnt really true.

super deep brah!
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Master Blaster on October 03, 2016, 08:07:38 AM
intimidated is the wrong word

i think any rational person

can see that your truth is a fairy tale

hard to believe an otherwise rational man would believe the nonsense you do

its a weakness a lack of courage to face the harsh reality of our brief existence

that forms the shape of religion

hardly intimidating

And yet, some article gets posted like "scientists prove we may be living in a computer simulation" and many atheists will lap that shit up because it's "science."

ANY view of reality, including "hard core" ones where you die and rot in the ground forever are equally silly. Or equally probable.

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: bigmc on October 03, 2016, 08:07:55 AM
LOL!! "the facts"

I find it funny how atheists are ignorant on matters of God yet somehow more enlightened as it pertains to the truth of God.  

Funnier still, is the backwards perception of believers who actually are educated and experienced in matters of God yet are called stupid, weak and blind.

The theist reaches out to the atheist to educate and encourage them about God and are met by the atheist with statements of, "I don't need God.  I don't need to learn that fairytale crap.  I don't care about that God stuff.  But I know it's all garbage!"



am i ignorant

what do you base that assumption on

or is everyone that doesn't agree with you speaking in ignorance

i expect all the other religious nuts will love that cliche  ;)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: loco on October 03, 2016, 08:09:54 AM

She looks like a whore.

Well done!!   

I'll give you credit to TA, you're puttin on some good size.

MOS


If I didn't know better, I'd say RatedXXX is an MOS gimmick, providing supporting evidence that Jesus Christ indeed has the power to change people.

2 Corinthians 5:17
"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."

Bravo, RatedXXX!
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: loco on October 03, 2016, 08:12:25 AM
Faith = the belief in something that deep down you know isnt really true.

Hebrews 11:1
"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 08:16:05 AM
am i ignorant

what do you base that assumption on

or is everyone that doesn't agree with you speaking in ignorance

i expect all the other religious nuts will love that cliche  ;)

Oh no, I didn't call you completely ignorant or generally ignorant.   I don't think you are an ignorant man at all.

I did say that you (and other atheists...not all atheists)) are ignorant on matters of God yet you (and other atheists) somehow know that everything of God is garbage.

I find that irony curious and funny.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 08:18:24 AM


If I didn't know better, I'd say RatedXXX is an MOS gimmick, providing supporting evidence that Jesus Christ indeed has the power to change people.

2 Corinthians 5:17
"Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new."

Bravo, RatedXXX!

It would be a solid way to demonstrate, but no I'm not RatedXXX.   :D

I have no need to create such gimmicks because the owners of accounts such as RatedXXX do that exact work for me.

I just capitalize on it.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: bigmc on October 03, 2016, 08:22:59 AM
Oh no, I didn't call you completely ignorant or generally ignorant.   I don't think you are an ignorant man at all.

I did say that you (and other atheists...not all atheists)) are ignorant on matters of God yet you (and other atheists) somehow know that everything of God is garbage.

I find that irony curious and funny.

i think you are using ignorant in the wrong context

you can be an expert in religion without believing in god
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 08:26:24 AM
i think you are using ignorant in the wrong context

you can be an expert in religion without believing in god

True, but you (and the vast majority of atheists) ain't no experts in religion LOL.

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: bigmc on October 03, 2016, 08:31:16 AM
True, but you (and the vast majority of atheists) ain't no experts in religion LOL.



what because i dont copy and paste endless texts from the bible

 ???
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 03, 2016, 08:33:20 AM
True, but you (and the vast majority of atheists) ain't no experts in religion LOL.



The real expert of religion knows it's all bs.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 08:36:52 AM
what because i dont copy and paste endless texts from the bible

 ???

You could post scripture if you wanted. 

You remain ignorant about God because you don't study the bible, follow what ti says or desire to know God or anything about God.   That would leave you ignorant on matters of God....pretty straight forward.

Of course you disagree?

So tell me why you aren't ignorant of matters of God.  You read a parts of the bible once?  You folks took you church when you were a kid?  You've talked about God to friends in a coffee shop?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 08:39:01 AM
The real expert of religion knows it's all bs.


Who's that expert?  Richard Dawkins?  Sam Harris?  LOL Bill Maher?  

I can't refer to Christopher Hitchens in this regard anymore because he DEFINITELY knows the truth now.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 03, 2016, 08:43:12 AM
Who's that expert?  Richard Dawkins?  Sam Harris?  LOL Bill Maher?  

I can't refer to Christopher Hitchens in this regard anymore because he DEFINITELY knows the truth now.

I studied all major religions for years, read like 5000 books, also a lot of old rare expensive ones...
In the end I realized it is all bullshit and threw them all away in a big container.
No regrets.

So my theory is everyone studying religions seriously must inevitably come to the same conclusion.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: bigmc on October 03, 2016, 08:43:40 AM
You could post scripture if you wanted. 

You remain ignorant about God because you don't study the bible, follow what ti says or desire to know God or anything about God.   That would leave you ignorant on matters of God....pretty straight forward.

Of course you disagree?

So tell me why you aren't ignorant of matters of God.  You read a parts of the bible once?  You folks took you church when you were a kid?  You've talked about God to friends in a coffee shop?

i was brought up in a very religious area

went to church all through my childhood

including sunday school where the minister would preach at us for hours

my beliefs stem from knowing a lot about the subject

i am not an expert but i am not ignorant

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on October 03, 2016, 09:52:46 AM
Who's that expert?  Richard Dawkins?  Sam Harris?  LOL Bill Maher?  

I can't refer to Christopher Hitchens in this regard anymore because he DEFINITELY knows the truth now.

No he doesnt, its because hes dead, their is no afterlife you numbfuck, death is like before you were born, nothingness.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 10:04:58 AM
I studied all major religions for years, read like 5000 books, also a lot of old rare expensive ones...
In the end I realized it is all bullshit and threw them all away in a big container.
No regrets.

So my theory is everyone studying religions seriously must inevitably come to the same conclusion.


i was brought up in a very religious area

went to church all through my childhood

including sunday school where the minister would preach at us for hours

my beliefs stem from knowing a lot about the subject

i am not an expert but i am not ignorant



Cool, tell me about your personal relationship with Jesus Christ that you proactively engaged in.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 10:06:29 AM
No he doesnt, its because hes dead, their is no afterlife you numbfuck, death is like before you were born, nothingness.

You know this conclusively and objectively how?  Have any evidence germane to the topic? 
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on October 03, 2016, 10:08:51 AM
No he doesnt, its because hes dead, their is no afterlife you numbfuck, death is like before you were born, nothingness.
But how do you explain everything else? I am not religious, and I do not believe in man-made books that claim the word of anyone.

However, you must admit that the universe is beyond human comprehension. Science is obviously a valuable tool to humanity, but it still barely scratches the surface.

An endless universe? Millions of planets? Science proves that it is mathematically impossible for earth to contain the only life. If that is the case, then scientifically, religion goes out the window, due to the existence of alien lifeforms.

Which is why I identify as agnostic. Humans weren't meant to grasp the entire meaning of life. Which includes worshipping man-made religions.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 10:12:32 AM
But how do you explain everything else? I am not religious, and I do not believe in man-made books that claim the word of anyone.

However, you must admit that the universe is beyond human comprehension. Science is obviously a valuable tool to humanity, but it still barely scratches the surface.

An endless universe? Millions of planets? Science proves that it is mathematically impossible for earth to contain the only life. If that is the case, then scientifically, religion goes out the window, due to the existence of alien lifeforms.

Which is why I identify as agnostic. Humans weren't meant to grasp the entire meaning of life. Which includes worshipping man-made religions.


The assumption being that the other life in the universe is "nephesh" (Hebrew) or soulish in nature and subject God's law as it pertains to sin and accountability therein.  

Humanity is God's greatest creation...set above all others but held to a standard unlike any other.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on October 03, 2016, 10:42:28 AM
You know this conclusively and objectively how?  Have any evidence germane to the topic? 
the burden of proof lies with he who affirms, you want me to produce evidence of nothing?

You prove Dawkins DEFINITELY knows the truth.

Fuck me, with all thats evil in the world you talk about a God, if there is a God hes a right twat....
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: cephissus on October 03, 2016, 10:45:20 AM
You could post scripture if you wanted. 

You remain ignorant about God because you don't study the bible, follow what ti says or desire to know God or anything about God.   That would leave you ignorant on matters of God....pretty straight forward.

Of course you disagree?

So tell me why you aren't ignorant of matters of God.  You read a parts of the bible once?  You folks took you church when you were a kid?  You've talked about God to friends in a coffee shop?

A follower of any other religion could accuse you of the same thing: "mos hasn't studied our texts or lived by them, yet he dismisses our religion.  On what basis, then, can he justify any critique of our faith?'

What would you say to them?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: King Shizzo on October 03, 2016, 10:49:39 AM
A follower of any other religion could accuse you of the same thing: "mos hasn't studied our texts or lived by them, yet he dismisses our religion.  On what basis, then, can he justify any critique of our faith?'

What would you say to them?
Agreed. The existence of multiple religions means that there is no true religion. As much as people may disagree, all wordly religions are absolutely equal in ignorance.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Kwon on October 03, 2016, 11:00:29 AM
Man of Wiggs ~ Wiggs of Steel
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 11:34:43 AM
the burden of proof lies with he who affirms, you want me to produce evidence of nothing?

You prove Dawkins DEFINITELY knows the truth.

Fuck me, with all thats evil in the world you talk about a God, if there is a God hes a right twat....

In basic philosophy the burden of proof is required for both positive(affirmative) and negative claims.

"[insert concept] is true." is an example of a positive(affirmative claim)

"[insert concept] is not true." is an example of a negative claim.

Both require support.  

The idea that only affirmative claims require proof is fallacious.  It's a notion that has run rampant in arguments between atheists and theists and it isn't correct.

You basically stated one positive and one negative claim:

"It is true that nothing exists before birth and after death" (positive claim because concept of "nothing" isn't necessarily automatic a negation....the concept of nothing is often treated as something)

"God is not true." (negative claim because of the inclusion of "no God")

My claims require evidence and so do yours.  I've provided evidence many times.  It's up to the objector to determine whether or not they will follow said evidence.

I fully admit this can be disputed endlessly, but I can't prevent that either.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 11:39:17 AM
A follower of any other religion could accuse you of the same thing: "mos hasn't studied our texts or lived by them, yet he dismisses our religion.  On what basis, then, can he justify any critique of our faith?'

What would you say to them?

Christianity has proof of Jesus Christ life and works, his resurrection and the fulfillment of prophecy.  All other religions have nothing close to this or nothing at all.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: TuHolmes on October 03, 2016, 11:39:44 AM
Christianity has proof of Jesus Christ life and works, his resurrection and the fulfillment of prophecy.  All other religions have nothing close to this or nothing at all.

What is this proof?

You mean the book?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 11:44:19 AM
What is this proof?

You mean the book?

Of course "the book" is evidence.

In terms of evidence, we have historical proof of Jesus' life and ministry, archeological proof of biblical people and places, manuscript proof of biblical reliability via the field of textual criticism, multiple independent attestations that agree closely on the facts of Jesus Christ's life/death/resurrection, proof via logic (God as source of logic, TAG argument, Kalam Cosmological argument), extra-biblical accounts that validate the historicity of Jesus Christ's ministry/death/resurrection, the ministry and death of Jesus' apostles after his ascension, the fulfillment of biblical prophecy spanning hundreds of years between initial prophecy and fulfillment, the intelligent design of the universe, the utter improbability of the intricate structure of the universe without a designer and the testimonial evidence of millions and millions of Christ's followers today. This isn't an exhaustive list either.  Fact of the matter is,  you’re conversing with absolute evidence for God right now.

The problem with evidence is that our presuppositions and subjectivity often determine our judgment of evidence even prior to reviewing said evidence (that is if it's ever reviewed). Further, people that want to understand and know God have a personal desire to actively pursue God....this is key!! Atheists don't pursue God according to his terms as outlined in scripture and generally have no desire to understand and know God at all. Atheists object to God based upon a lack of scientific evidence and testing (a logical fallacy referred to as a "category mistake") or they put forth demands that certain criteria must be met within the evidence that is simply unreasonable. That or they simply reject anything and everything "of God" and refuse to explore and follow the evidence. Those that truly desire to know the reality of God pursue him on his terms and abandon their own.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: TuHolmes on October 03, 2016, 11:48:00 AM
Ok.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: bigmc on October 03, 2016, 12:02:49 PM
Cool, tell me about your personal relationship with Jesus Christ that you proactively engaged in.

no
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 03, 2016, 12:35:33 PM
Cool, tell me about your personal relationship with Jesus Christ that you proactively engaged in.

Why?
And
No.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on October 03, 2016, 12:39:45 PM
In basic philosophy the burden of proof is required for both positive(affirmative) and negative claims.

"[insert concept] is true." is an example of a positive(affirmative claim)

"[insert concept] is not true." is an example of a negative claim.

Both require support.  

The idea that only affirmative claims require proof is fallacious.  It's a notion that has run rampant in arguments between atheists and theists and it isn't correct.

You basically stated one positive and one negative claim:

"It is true that nothing exists before birth and after death" (positive claim because concept of "nothing" isn't necessarily automatic a negation....the concept of nothing is often treated as something)

"God is not true." (negative claim because of the inclusion of "no God")

My claims require evidence and so do yours.  I've provided evidence many times.  It's up to the objector to determine whether or not they will follow said evidence.

I fully admit this can be disputed endlessly, but I can't prevent that either.

lets replace God with a Unicorn
Me "Unicorns do not exist"
You "provide proof Unicorns do not exist"
Me "there is no evidence to support the existence of Unicorns"


Now,
You, "God exists"
Me, "Prove God exists"

the floor is yours my friend......
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on October 03, 2016, 12:41:54 PM
Of course "the book" is evidence.

In terms of evidence, we have historical proof of Jesus' life and ministry, archeological proof of biblical people and places, manuscript proof of biblical reliability via the field of textual criticism, multiple independent attestations that agree closely on the facts of Jesus Christ's life/death/resurrection, proof via logic (God as source of logic, TAG argument, Kalam Cosmological argument), extra-biblical accounts that validate the historicity of Jesus Christ's ministry/death/resurrection, the ministry and death of Jesus' apostles after his ascension, the fulfillment of biblical prophecy spanning hundreds of years between initial prophecy and fulfillment, the intelligent design of the universe, the utter improbability of the intricate structure of the universe without a designer and the testimonial evidence of millions and millions of Christ's followers today. This isn't an exhaustive list either.  Fact of the matter is,  you’re conversing with absolute evidence for God right now.

The problem with evidence is that our presuppositions and subjectivity often determine our judgment of evidence even prior to reviewing said evidence (that is if it's ever reviewed). Further, people that want to understand and know God have a personal desire to actively pursue God....this is key!! Atheists don't pursue God according to his terms as outlined in scripture and generally have no desire to understand and know God at all. Atheists object to God based upon a lack of scientific evidence and testing (a logical fallacy referred to as a "category mistake") or they put forth demands that certain criteria must be met within the evidence that is simply unreasonable. That or they simply reject anything and everything "of God" and refuse to explore and follow the evidence. Those that truly desire to know the reality of God pursue him on his terms and abandon their own.

lol , just because there was a bloke named Jesus doesnt prove he cured the sick and died and rose again for our sins.


Fuck me the level of delusion is bordering on excellent trolling.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: CalvinH on October 03, 2016, 12:43:45 PM
bloke named Jesus


Pretty sure no one ever called him bloke...that's only a saying you weirdo Brits use.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: mazrim on October 03, 2016, 01:00:19 PM
Ok.
This is why Man of Steel is the most patient poster on here. No idea why he responds to some of you guys who clearly do not want to discuss to begin with.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: RatedXXX on October 03, 2016, 01:04:55 PM
This is why Man of Steel is the most patient poster on here. No idea why he responds to some of you guys who clearly do not want to discuss to begin with.
Really? I find him to be glib, whining, and self centered. When confronted with the people brutally treated, he says he's with Christ now, and that precludes him from having to mend fences. The Gospels, however, say otherwise.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: TuHolmes on October 03, 2016, 01:30:35 PM
This is why Man of Steel is the most patient poster on here. No idea why he responds to some of you guys who clearly do not want to discuss to begin with.

Not sure what patience is required when a response is a simple, "ok".
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 01:33:34 PM
Really? I find him to be glib, whining, and self centered. When confronted with the people brutally treated, he says he's with Christ now, and that precludes him from having to mend fences. The Gospels, however, say otherwise.

As I noted yesterday:

Unfortunately the board is too anonymous for that, but those that have been here I have and those folks not online in my life I've also spoken to.

Just to give you a heads up.   I've done this particular dance dozens of times.  I'm completely comfortable in these discussions because they bring glory to God.  

As if I've stated already the truth is a wonderful place to exist.

It's simply impossible for me to either remember all of my wrongdoings or find each individual wronged and make amends.

And because I can't doesn't negate a thing about the man Christ has made me today.   Simply put, if I both recall all my wrongdoings and had the ability to make amends I'd have no issue with doing so.

You're simply reaching for anything to discredit me and prove I'm a phony, hypocritical Christian.  That's what most do today anyhow...they nitpick posts, generate angles, make stuff up....whatever to make their argument stick.   I don't prefer it, but it's par for the course for me.

I'm guessing you're a young guy....college age/mid 20s perhaps.  Reason being is most folks that age that object to the God/religion/Christians/etc. often take this approach. 
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 01:38:35 PM
Not sure what patience is required when a response is a simple, "ok".

When you exist in my shoes and tolerate the characters I do you live in world of double edge swords....too little written isn't sufficient and too much written isn't read (the infamous "wall of text"....td;dr).   I try and strike a healthy middle now and I have a ton of my written material to draw from.

These types of situations are like practice for me, but sometimes I need a break from the practice as well as the real deal.

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 03, 2016, 01:40:45 PM
Really? I find him to be glib, whining, and self centered. When confronted with the people brutally treated, he says he's with Christ now, and that precludes him from having to mend fences. The Gospels, however, say otherwise.

What's the problem?
He just lives in a fantasy world of his own.
Let him be.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: TuHolmes on October 03, 2016, 01:41:18 PM
When you exist in my shoes and tolerate the characters I do you live in world of double edge swords....too little written isn't sufficient and too much written isn't read (the infamous "wall of text"....td;dr).   I try and strike a healthy middle now and I have a ton of my written material to draw from.



My premise was that I read what you stated and while I may disagree as to whether it is proof or not, I don't feel we need to continue the line of questioning.

You have your faith, I do not belittle or demean you for it.

Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: cephissus on October 03, 2016, 01:42:40 PM
Christianity has proof of Jesus Christ life and works, his resurrection and the fulfillment of prophecy.  All other religions have nothing close to this or nothing at all.

Really, how much have you looked into the matter?  Buddhism, Hinduisim, etc. must have taken ages to give them all the same consideration you ask for Christianity.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on October 03, 2016, 01:46:34 PM
Both are fine upstanding getbigges

Altojgh both is alittle nuts with the jesus and flat earth stuff
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 03, 2016, 01:47:53 PM
Christianity has proof of Jesus Christ life and works, his resurrection and the fulfillment of prophecy.  All other religions have nothing close to this or nothing at all.

Bullshit.
The Hopi for example have fulfilled and future prophecies exceeding the christian ones by a huge margin.
The Quran also contains a lot of fulfilled prophecies.
The list goes on...

Get your facts straight.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Kwon on October 03, 2016, 01:48:16 PM
Both are fine upstanding getbigges

Altojgh both is alittle nuts with the jesus and flat earth stuff

Man of Wiggs doesn't believe in Flat Earth though, he is more into a Fluffy Earth.

It's Wiggs of Steel that is into Flat Hebrews and stuff.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 03, 2016, 01:49:20 PM
Man of Wiggs doesn't believe in Flat Earth though, he is more into a Fluffy Earth.

It's Wiggs of Steel that is into Flat Hebrews and stuff.

LOL!
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 01:50:02 PM
Bullshit.
The Hopi for example have fulfilled and future prophecies exceeding the christian ones by a huge margin.
The Quran also contains a lot of fulfilled prophecies.
The list goes on...

Get your facts straight.


I'd be interested in seeing any Hopi indian or Islamic prophecy that has been fulfilled.


Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Tapeworm on October 03, 2016, 01:50:10 PM
I'm gonna need to see both competitors peeled before rendering a verdict.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 01:54:36 PM
Really, how much have you looked into the matter?  Buddhism, Hinduisim, etc. must have taken ages to give them all the same consideration you ask for Christianity.

I trust in the scholarship of genuine experts.   They've done the legwork for all of us.  I've never claimed originality and complete bottoms up research in everything I post.   Sure some is genuine.   I've had folks demand bibliographies of my sources LOL...ridiculous demands they don't give a flip about in actuality.  They don't fully read my posts let alone source material which is far more exhaustive.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 03, 2016, 01:55:43 PM
I'd be interested in seeing any Hopi indian or Islamic prophecy that has been fulfilled.




Google will help you out.
Here's the link -> https://www.google.com
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: RatedXXX on October 03, 2016, 02:02:49 PM
As I noted yesterday:

It's simply impossible for me to either remember all of my wrongdoings or find each individual wronged and make amends.

And because I can't doesn't negate a thing about the man Christ has made me today.   Simply put, if I both recall all my wrongdoings and had the ability to make amends I'd have no issue with doing so.

You're simply reaching for anything to discredit me and prove I'm a phony, hypocritical Christian.  That's what most do today anyhow...they nitpick posts, generate angles, make stuff up....whatever to make their argument stick.   I don't prefer it, but it's par for the course for me.

I'm guessing you're a young guy....college age/mid 20s perhaps.  Reason being is most folks that age that object to the God/religion/Christians/etc. often take this approach. 
If you've got time to play games on muscle forums then you've got time to make up for your wrongdoings.
In terms of my age and profile you're way off. I was already a a church going Christian decades before you opened a Bible. And you don't strike me as sincere.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: cephissus on October 03, 2016, 02:03:01 PM
I trust in the scholarship of genuine experts.   They've done the legwork for all of us.  I've never claimed originality and complete bottoms up research in everything I post.   Sure some is genuine.   I've had folks demand bibliographies of my sources LOL...ridiculous demands they don't give a flip about in actuality.  They don't fully read my posts let alone source material which is far more exhaustive.

But when others dismiss Christianity, possibly in large part because of "the scholarship of genuine experts" who do the same (and there are many, as you know), you say they need to practice the religion first ("have a personal relationship with Christ").  Seems like you're doing the same thing?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on October 03, 2016, 02:04:30 PM
I trust in the scholarship of genuine experts.   They've done the legwork for all of us.  I've never claimed originality and complete bottoms up research in everything I post.   Sure some is genuine.   I've had folks demand bibliographies of my sources LOL...ridiculous demands they don't give a flip about in actuality.  They don't fully read my posts let alone source material which is far more exhaustive.

Exhaustive?
thats an odd word to choose for something that you base your whole life philosophy around
I would have thought the word "enjoyable" would have been better suited
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 02:06:59 PM
Exhaustive?
thats an odd word to choose for something that you base your whole life philosophy around
I would have thought the word "enjoyable" would have been better suited

Exhaustive in this context refers to completeness of the research.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 02:08:19 PM
But when others dismiss Christianity, possibly in large part because of "the scholarship of genuine experts" who do the same (and there are many, as you know), you say they need to practice the religion first ("have a personal relationship with Christ").  Seems like you're doing the same thing?

It's real simple.  If you desire to know Christ you abide by scripture and God's terms therein.  Knowing God personally means having a relationship and that requires faith.  It's ultimate form of proactively following all the evidence to it's logical end.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 03, 2016, 02:09:26 PM
It's real simple.  If you desire to know Christ you abide by scripture and God's terms therein.  Knowing God personally means having a relationship and that requires faith.  It's ultimate form of proactively following all the evidence to it's logical end.

Christianity defies all logic though.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 02:10:33 PM
If you've got time to play games on muscle forums then you've got time to make up for your wrongdoings.
In terms of my age and profile you're way off. I was already a a church going Christian decades before you opened a Bible. And you don't strike me as sincere.


That's interesting.  Given how juvenile your tactics are I assumed a kiddo begin an account named RatedXXX.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: RatedXXX on October 03, 2016, 02:11:42 PM
That's interesting.  Given how juvenile your tactics are I assumed a kiddo begin an account named RatedXXX.
Read over some of your texts. Like where you call somebody's daughter a "whore". You fail to impress.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on October 03, 2016, 02:13:26 PM
Exhaustive in this context refers to completeness of the research.
so someone finds it exhausting then, is that a believer or a none believer?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 02:13:30 PM
Read over some of your texts. Like where you call somebody's daughter a "whore". You fail to impress.

Not a Christian then...explained that already.

My post history is completely open and available to be dug through....it's that way with definite purpose.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 02:15:23 PM
so someone finds it exhausting then, is that a believer or a none believer?

You're not understanding...it relates to thoroughness in research efforts not a state of fatigue or lack of enjoyment.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on October 03, 2016, 02:17:03 PM
You're not understanding...it relates to thoroughness in research efforts not a state of fatigue or lack of enjoyment.

ya think....
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: RatedXXX on October 03, 2016, 02:18:02 PM
Not a Christian then...explained that already.

My post history is completely open and available to be dug through....it's that way with definite purpose.
So your self conscious demonstration of your new found "Christianity" justifies you allowing your disgusting words to remain, forever insulting that woman and her family? Did TA have her permission to post that pic? Would you want your daughter's picture on the internet, labeled a "whore"? You have much to learn about class.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: cephissus on October 03, 2016, 02:29:36 PM
It's real simple.  If you desire to know Christ you abide by scripture and God's terms therein.  Knowing God personally means having a relationship and that requires faith.  It's ultimate form of proactively following all the evidence to it's logical end.

I don't see how this addresses my point.  You're saying "you can't dismiss it unless you first want it to be true and behave accordingly."  However, you also dismiss other religions, simply taking the word of scholars that they're no good.  You tell your opponents their method is invalid, but you use it yourself, nonetheless.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 02:39:59 PM
I don't see how this addresses my point.  You're saying "you can't dismiss it unless you first want it to be true and behave accordingly."  However, you also dismiss other religions, simply taking the word of scholars that they're no good.  You tell your opponents their method is invalid, but you use it yourself, nonetheless.

When it comes to Christian theology you have a primary consensus in scholarship and then you have more of your fringe scholars (your Ehrmans and Carriers).  I don't trust in their evaluation of Jesus Christ because of based in some ignorance and definite anti-Christ sentimentality.

Other religions that are directly or indirectly anti-Christ are demonic in nature....that's their source.  You won't understand or agree with idea, but it's truth nonetheless.

You have no idea the time I've put into reading and writing and listening and comparing and understanding various religions.  Still, I can't address all of scholarship, but I can say with confidence that once you've experienced the real, tangible presence of the Holy Spirit....well.....every thing else seems sorta trivial.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 02:42:15 PM
So your self conscious demonstration of your new found "Christianity" justifies you allowing your disgusting words to remain, forever insulting that woman and her family? Did TA have her permission to post that pic? Would you want your daughter's picture on the internet, labeled a "whore"? You have much to learn about class.

Sure, whatever you say....didn't actually read this.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on October 03, 2016, 02:42:40 PM
When it comes to Christian theology you have a primary consensus in scholarship and then you have more of your fringe scholars (your Ehrmans and Carriers).  I don't trust in their evaluation of Jesus Christ because of based in some ignorance and definite anti-Christ sentimentality.

Other religions that are directly or indirectly anti-Christ are demonic in nature....that's their source.  You won't understand or agree with idea, but it's truth nonetheless.

You have no idea the time I've put into reading and writing and listening and comparing and understanding various religions.  Still, I can't address all of scholarship, but I can say with confidence that once you've experienced the real, tangible presence of the Holy Spirit....well.....every thing else seems sorta trivial.
thats what Islam says.... ;)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: RatedXXX on October 03, 2016, 02:46:32 PM
Sure, whatever you say....didn't actually read this.
You're a liar.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: RatedXXX on October 03, 2016, 02:48:09 PM
thats what Islam says.... ;)
You're wasting your time arguing with the bullshit artist "mos". He's not a legit Christian.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: FREAKgeek on October 03, 2016, 02:56:22 PM
Yes, according to the world the glory is found within the continuous search for truth and never settling.

I find the truth in Christ and I'm therefore less open to things and basically lacking according to the world?

Sounds good to me!!

Folks are intimidated by believers in Christ that won't relent.....they simply don't understand how someone can be completely convinced so they rest on "he's a nutjob" or "he's delusional" or "he's a moron". 

In the same way followers of other faiths and gods are nutjobs to you.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: cephissus on October 03, 2016, 02:56:49 PM
You have no idea the time I've put into reading and writing and listening and comparing and understanding various religions.

How much time have you spent on them, in comparison to the amount of time you've spent studying Christianity?  And how much of that time was spent looking for ammunition against them?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on October 03, 2016, 02:57:39 PM
You're wasting your time arguing with the bullshit artist "mos". He's not a legit Christian.
Oh i think he is, christians are the fucking worst, they act like twats all week then go to church on Sunday so they get forgiven, its a clean slate to be a shitbag for the next week.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 03, 2016, 03:04:21 PM
Other religions that are directly or indirectly anti-Christ are demonic in nature....that's their source.  You won't understand or agree with idea, but it's truth nonetheless.

Apart from religion in general being complete nonsense...
Any religion saying other religions are demonic can not be the right one.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: FREAKgeek on October 03, 2016, 03:04:30 PM
I'd be interested in seeing any Hopi indian or Islamic prophecy that has been fulfilled.


There isn't a single recognized supernatural event by science. They have all been dismissed as hoaxes or unreliable testimony. For a god that is supposed to be self evident and does countless works in people's lives, that is the irony of ironies, better than alien UFO visitations and anal probing.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on October 03, 2016, 03:06:22 PM
Apart from religion in general being complete nonsense...
Any religion saying other religions are demonic can not be the right one.


Thats a good point

Live and let live, right?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 03, 2016, 03:19:21 PM
Thats a good point

Live and let live, right?

Exactly.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 03:53:49 PM
To the man that PM'd me just recently and we quickly exchanged a little back and forth.

I'm not convinced you're what you claimed to be.   In fact, I believe you're a gimmick trying to get me to say something inappropriate.

Sorry, not going to work, but have a good one.

FYI, this has nothing to do with existing participants in this thread.

 
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: The Scott on October 03, 2016, 06:49:39 PM
So your self conscious demonstration of your new found "Christianity" justifies you allowing your disgusting words to remain, forever insulting that woman and her family? Did TA have her permission to post that pic? Would you want your daughter's picture on the internet, labeled a "whore"? You have much to learn about class.

Class is in session. What is it you wish to learn?  Or would you rather be taught a lesson? 



Oh i think he is, christians are the fucking worst, they act like twats all week then go to church on Sunday so they get forgiven, its a clean slate to be a shitbag for the next week.

How cute. 
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 06:59:53 PM
There isn't a single recognized supernatural event by science. They have all been dismissed as hoaxes or unreliable testimony. For a god that is supposed to be self evident and does countless works in people's lives, that is the irony of ironies, better than alien UFO visitations and anal probing.

Science is knowledge of the the natural not the supernatural.  It dismisses that which it cannot reason within the natural. 

God transcends the natural world so in order to interact with him you must come to him on his terms as outlined in scripture.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: The Scott on October 03, 2016, 07:00:08 PM
How much time have you spent on them, in comparison to the amount of time you've spent studying Christianity?  And how much of that time was spent looking for ammunition against them?

It doesn't take a degree in theology to know the Christ and His Word.  The Pharisees made this mistake when (and I paraphrase) they said, "Who is this carpenter's son to tell us of the Scriptures and we being learned men?"
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 07:01:54 PM
thats what Islam says.... ;)

Islam is essentially the Bizzaro-world version of Christianity.  Of course there a similarities because it attempts to mirror Christianity yet in a perverted reverse fashion....it is anti-Christianity....it is therefore demonic.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 07:07:39 PM
Oh i think he is, christians are the fucking worst, they act like twats all week then go to church on Sunday so they get forgiven, its a clean slate to be a shitbag for the next week.

What you're suggesting aligns more with Catholicism. RCs visit their local parish weekly for confession, absolution, eucharist, prayer and mass.

Christians gather on Sunday for worship and fellowship....it's quite different.  They also gather almost every other day of the week as well. 
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 03, 2016, 07:09:50 PM
Islam is essentially the Bizzaro-world version of Christianity.  Of course there a similarities because it attempts to mirror Christianity yet in a perverted reverse fashion....it is anti-Christianity....it is therefore demonic.

Everything not christian is evil LOL
Gimme a break.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: jk2016 on October 03, 2016, 07:11:27 PM
Exactly.


you should read osho sometimes
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: OB1 on October 03, 2016, 07:13:12 PM
you should read osho sometimes

Infact I already did.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 07:15:35 PM
How much time have you spent on them, in comparison to the amount of time you've spent studying Christianity?  And how much of that time was spent looking for ammunition against them?

I don't keep a journal....years now.  I read, watch, study, write, etc....sometimes to learn about other faiths and sometimes in response to objections of competing religious belief systems as it opposes Jesus Christ. 

I was blessed to be drawn by God unto himself and I in turn responded and now know God undeniably.  I've experience special revelations of God on multiple occasions (trust me I know that's meaningless to you and will be mocked...don't care).  Everything else pales in comparison.  I no longer need to spend time a lot of time validating or invalidating other faith systems because I know the reality of the one and only God.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Man of Steel on October 03, 2016, 07:17:19 PM
Everything not christian is evil LOL
Gimme a break.


No, I said everything anti-Christ....there's a difference.   
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: cephissus on October 03, 2016, 07:25:17 PM
I've experience special revelations of God on multiple occasions (trust me I know that's meaningless to you and will be mocked...don't care).

Actually I'm curious, can you explain in more detail?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on October 04, 2016, 03:27:13 AM
Islam is essentially the Bizzaro-world version of Christianity.  Of course there a similarities because it attempts to mirror Christianity yet in a perverted reverse fashion....it is anti-Christianity....it is therefore demonic.
and as such christianity is anti Islamic and as such demonic.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: The Scott on October 04, 2016, 04:42:33 AM
and as such christianity is anti Islamic and as such demonic.

Try not to be so childish.  You know the truth of what you stated. i.e., the world and every human that is not of Islam are considered the enemy of Islam.   Yeah, that would include you.  Unless of course  you have already submitted to Islam.

The word Islam means "to submit" or "submission".  What Christ taught and what Mohammed taught are two entirely different things and only a retard dip would keep on keeping like you and several others have in this trhead.  

One is good news (the Gospel).  The other is bad news (the Koran). A follower of Christ may well die for their faith but a follower of Mohammed may well kill for theirs. 

Now that you've been told what you already knew, quite being such a child. 
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: cephissus on October 04, 2016, 03:43:52 PM
Christians wouldn't kill for their faith?

Abraham might have something to say about that...

Or the inquisitors, crusaders...
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Simple Simon on October 04, 2016, 03:47:00 PM
Christians wouldn't kill for their faith?

Abraham might have something to say about that...

Or the inquisitors, crusaders...
http://www.historytoday.com/jonathan-phillips/crusades-complete-history
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: Skeletor on October 04, 2016, 03:52:25 PM
(http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-23701-galleryV9-ekfe-23701.jpg)

(http://cdn4.spiegel.de/images/image-145307-galleryV9-nmsm-145307.jpg)

(http://www.cuttingedge.org/Inquisition_1.jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: mazrim on October 04, 2016, 03:56:48 PM
Or the inquisitors, crusaders...
Christians?
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: The Scott on October 04, 2016, 07:27:10 PM
Christians wouldn't kill for their faith?

Abraham might have something to say about that...

Or the inquisitors, crusaders...

Abraham was Jewish.  The inquisition nor the crusades were of Christ so do not think to cite them as what Christ and those that know Him would sanction.  If you slap me for my faith, I will turn the other cheek.  If you slap me for any other reason (and I can discern the difference), I will defend myself.  I am not called to take abuse by any man and neither are you.

But you already know all of this.  I have often stated my thoughts on my faith and that I would never force another to follow it.  Islam is crap and to deny that would be to make yourself out as a fool and you are no fool.  If you hate Christ that's not my problem but I would never deride an atheist that was a good man.  That was John or as you may have known him here, "Reeves".  A good man that was an Atheist.  I have no problem with that.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: FREAKgeek on October 06, 2016, 11:40:55 AM
Science is knowledge of the the natural not the supernatural.  It dismisses that which it cannot reason within the natural. 

God transcends the natural world so in order to interact with him you must come to him on his terms as outlined in scripture.

Science strives for the knowledge of everything. It should be able to at least credit or acknowledge the supernatural.


In Matthew 7:7 Jesus says:

"Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him!"

In Matthew 17:20 Jesus says:

"For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you."


So, is this all figurative bullshit, or do you take this literally? Because if you take it literally, the supernatural can be easily exposed.
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: loco on October 06, 2016, 11:54:57 AM
(http://cdn2.spiegel.de/images/image-23701-galleryV9-ekfe-23701.jpg)

(http://cdn4.spiegel.de/images/image-145307-galleryV9-nmsm-145307.jpg)

(http://www.cuttingedge.org/Inquisition_1.jpg.jpg)


Inquisitors and Crusaders have nothing on Atheist Commies.

Mass killings under Communist regimes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f5/Vinnycia16.jpg/270px-Vinnycia16.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b2/Victims_of_Soviet_NKVD_in_Lvov%2C_June_1941.jpg/300px-Victims_of_Soviet_NKVD_in_Lvov%2C_June_1941.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Choeungek2.JPG/200px-Choeungek2.JPG)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b8/Katy%C5%84%2C_ekshumacja_ofiar.jpg/220px-Katy%C5%84%2C_ekshumacja_ofiar.jpg)
Title: Re: Man of Steel vs. Wiggs. Which side are you on? (God's vote included)
Post by: cephissus on October 06, 2016, 03:30:42 PM
O yup, crusades were soo bad cause Christians should of continued to let Muslims run over them after they conquered previously Christian middle eastern countries plus Spain and Portugal leading to the invasion of France and the battle of Tours..
(http://www.zonu.com/images/0X0/2009-12-31-11546/The-Umayyad-Caliphate-661750.jpg)
(http://sites.google.com/site/breivikmanifesto/_/rsrc/1381308554038/2083/book-1/20/0227%20-%201.20.jpg?height=216&width=400)
(https://www.jihadwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Turkish-Wave.jpg)
https://www.jihadwatch.org/islam-101
http://adamncrawford.com/7-myths-about-the-crusades/
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2005/mayweb-only/52.0.html?start=1


As for the inquisition, you can start here..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition
"As with all European tribunals of the time, torture was employed.[83][84] The Spanish inquisition, however, engaged in it far less often and with greater care than other courts.[83][85] Historian Henry Kamen contends that some "popular" accounts of the inquisition (those that describe scenes of uncontrolled sadistic torture) are not based in truth. Kamen argues that torture was only ever used to elicit information or a confession, not for punitive reasons.[86]"

http://adamncrawford.com/7-myths-about-the-inquisition/
So please, don't mindlessly repeat anti-Christian / western civilisation lies, cause the alternative might not be that great..
(http://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/ISIS-reveals-map-of-Europe-showing-areas-it-wants-to-dominate-by-2020-597254.jpg)
(http://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/708748008603652097/Bshyk0tZ.jpg)




Anti-christian lies?  I only implied they would kill for their faith, nothing more.  I don't even have a problem with that.

Settle down.