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Title: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 07:15:20 AM
Spoke to a guy i know who has been vegetarian for around a year, his training is on its arse and hes declining rapidly.
Hes eating 8 meals a day to try and take in enough protein.

Seriously, whats wrong with people who want to make life so difficult for themselves.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: OB1 on September 30, 2016, 07:20:40 AM
Maybe the wrong diet.
I have been vegetarian for like 6 months where I had the most gains also.
Although I got to admit my diet consisted of maybe 75-80% oatmeal.

Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: WannaBePro on September 30, 2016, 07:20:54 AM
A close friend of mine was a vegetarian for 7 years, 4 of which she was vegan.
She now eats meat except pork, and the reason she stopped being vegan was because she decided she wanted to compete and couldn't get in competition shape without meat/fish/eggs.
She told me she even notices how it affected her mood and hormones. When she was vegan she, admittedly, said she was a bitch to most people and had a short fuse. Now she's a whole different person.
I'm sure there are some that do well on vegetarian/vegan diets, but just like people who can't handle Keto or a high carb diet, there are some that just can't handle veganism.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 07:21:35 AM
Maybe the wrong diet.
I have been vegetarian for like 6 months where I had the most gains also.
Although I got to admit my diet consisted of maybe 75-80% oatmeal and 30 rolls of bog roll a week



fixed
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: OB1 on September 30, 2016, 07:22:31 AM
fixed

LOL!
No!
Not really.

Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on September 30, 2016, 07:29:05 AM
Spoke to a guy i know who has been vegetarian for around a year, his training is on its arse and hes declining rapidly.
Hes eating 8 meals a day to try and take in enough protein.

Seriously, whats wrong with people who want to make life so difficult for themselves.

Here you go making dumb threads again, you can get all the protein you need as a vegetarian, did you know that rice and beans is a complete protein meal, quinoa grain is a good source of protein, hemp protein is a very good protein for lifting and I could go on and on.

You are one of those dumb bodybuilders who think excessive protein is necessary, the only time you should be eating excessive protein is if you are on very low carbs.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 07:39:29 AM
Here you go making dumb threads again, you can get all the protein you need as a vegetarian, did you know that rice and beans is a complete protein meal, quinoa grain is a good source of protein, hemp protein is a very good protein for lifting and I could go on and on.

You are one of those dumb bodybuilders who think excessive protein is necessary, the only time you should be eating excessive protein is if you are on very low carbs.
I eat around 100gms protein a day and Im 225 at 11%

Its the eating 8 times a day I had the issue with.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Go 4 It on September 30, 2016, 07:58:25 AM
This guy never ate a piece of meat his entire life, looks like he's doing ok, parents raised him vegan since birth, managed to make so decent gains and attained a pro card.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: WannaBePro on September 30, 2016, 08:01:01 AM
This guy never ate a piece of meat his entire life, looks like he's doing ok, parents raised him vegan since birth, managed to make so decent gains and attained a pro card.

Not always a good idea....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/11/italian-baby-fed-vegan-diet-hospitalized-for-malnutrition/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/11/italian-baby-fed-vegan-diet-hospitalized-for-malnutrition/)

Breast milk is very important in early stages of a baby's development. Vegan diets are horrible for babies. Its different for adults or even children, but babies shouldn't be deprived of breast milk.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Go 4 It on September 30, 2016, 08:07:29 AM
Not always a good idea....
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/11/italian-baby-fed-vegan-diet-hospitalized-for-malnutrition/ (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/07/11/italian-baby-fed-vegan-diet-hospitalized-for-malnutrition/)

Breast milk is very important in early stages of a baby's development. Vegan diets are horrible for babies. Its different for adults or even children, but babies shouldn't be deprived of breast milk.
Not sure if he was breast fed or not, but i assume vegan women can still produce breast milk broski..
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: WannaBePro on September 30, 2016, 08:25:21 AM
Not sure if he was breast fed or not, but i assume vegan women can still produce breast milk broski..

Milk =/= vegan. That includes human milk, broski..
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Taffin on September 30, 2016, 08:33:03 AM
This guy never ate a piece of meat his entire life, looks like he's doing ok, parents raised him vegan since birth, managed to make so decent gains and attained a pro card.

Highest calves I have EVER seen, bar none!
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: NelsonMuntz on September 30, 2016, 08:38:27 AM
This guy never ate a piece of meat his entire life, looks like he's doing ok, parents raised him vegan since birth, managed to make so decent gains and attained a pro card.

he has an amazing upper body, but in all honesty, he looks lopsided with those legs and the first thing I think is "lazy"

also the anabolic salads have to be factored in
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: falco on September 30, 2016, 08:40:40 AM
    I don't endorse going full vegetarian, but i have been eating a lot less meat than i used to, and changing it by vegan foods. I feel like it's a wise choice after a certain age.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: kreator on September 30, 2016, 08:41:53 AM
This guy never ate a piece of meat his entire life, looks like he's doing ok, parents raised him vegan since birth, managed to make so decent gains and attained a pro card.

define meat ...cause he looks like he's fond of the cock
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: MAXX on September 30, 2016, 09:08:10 AM
This guy never ate a piece of meat his entire life, looks like he's doing ok, parents raised him vegan since birth, managed to make so decent gains and attained a pro card.
great upper body but looks like he's walking on stilts  :-\
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 10:52:16 AM
This guy never ate a piece of meat his entire life, looks like he's doing ok, parents raised him vegan since birth, managed to make so decent gains and attained a pro card.
fucking hippies..
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Earl1972 on September 30, 2016, 10:59:45 AM
vegetarians are hypocrites for not eating meat but still eating animal products

why are people vegan?  simple some people actually care about things other than themselves, it's sickening the way farm animals are treated

it's healthier too, the number 1 killer of humans is heart disease and stroke, what do you think causes this?

E
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Erik C on September 30, 2016, 11:05:02 AM
it's healthier too, the number 1 killer of humans is heart disease and stroke, what do you think causes this?

Heart Disease and Strokes are caused by High Homocysteine Levels, caused by eating carbohydrates.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 11:07:21 AM
vegetarians are hypocrites for not eating meat but still eating animal products

why are people vegan?  simple some people actually care about things other than themselves, it's sickening the way farm animals are treated

it's healthier too, the number 1 killer of humans is heart disease and stroke, what do you think causes this?

E

stress....
and a major cause of stress is trying to find a restaurant that caters for vegans.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: _bruce_ on September 30, 2016, 11:12:03 AM
In principle it's great. It depends on how good the quality of your veggies is though.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: MAXX on September 30, 2016, 11:13:22 AM
vegetarians are hypocrites for not eating meat but still eating animal products

why are people vegan?  simple some people actually care about things other than themselves, it's sickening the way farm animals are treated

it's healthier too, the number 1 killer of humans is heart disease and stroke, what do you think causes this?

E


generally obesity, bad diets, drugs, smoking, and unhealthy sedintary living...

correlation does not mean causation. This is a common denominator and misstake that unintelligent people make. The correlation in some of these "studies" are flawed in that of vegan diets are compared to people in a group that includes a big group of people with hotdog and pizza "diets".
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: OB1 on September 30, 2016, 11:19:02 AM
stress....
and a major cause of stress is trying to find a restaurant that caters for vegans.

LOL!
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: mazrim on September 30, 2016, 11:20:44 AM
I really like mushroom burgers...
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: local hero on September 30, 2016, 11:55:02 AM
I have no time for such childish pursuit's, I associate vegans with teenage girls going through a phase or a hippy/tree hugger type that wears sandals..

Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Henda on September 30, 2016, 12:09:43 PM
Vegan/vegetarian = fag
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Hack Benchers on September 30, 2016, 01:14:55 PM
Highest calves I have EVER seen, bar none!
You see calves? Dont see it at all. Vegan calfsticks of peas
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on September 30, 2016, 01:48:26 PM
I have no time for such childish pursuit's, I associate vegans with teenage girls going through a phase or a hippy/tree hugger type that wears sandals..



He doesnt eat meat I am sure a strong meat eater like yourself would have no problem kicking his ass and show him that you need to eat meat to be powerful.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zdGD6U2LbgU/VdWv1oA95SI/AAAAAAAAFuM/tDdfUTx0f0M/s1600/gorilla%2Bmuscles.jpg)
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Dreadlifter on September 30, 2016, 02:01:26 PM
I have no time for such childish pursuit's, I associate vegans with teenage girls going through a phase or a hippy/tree hugger type that wears sandals..



This. And raising a child vegetarian/vegan especially is IMHO child neglect/abuse.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: illuminati on September 30, 2016, 02:06:31 PM
Spoke to a guy i know who has been vegetarian for around a year, his training is on its arse and hes declining rapidly.
Hes eating 8 meals a day to try and take in enough protein.

Seriously, whats wrong with people who want to make life so difficult for themselves.







  ::)  it's Mental illness of Peace.
They Fcuked up.

Get your Friend to Seek Help asap.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: kreator on September 30, 2016, 02:09:44 PM
Heart Disease and Strokes are caused by High Homocysteine Levels, caused by eating carbohydrates.

exactly, and the high carb diets were intentionally pushed to make more profit, it had nothing to do with health
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Erik C on September 30, 2016, 02:27:57 PM
exactly, and the high carb diets were intentionally pushed to make more profit, it had nothing to do with health

And the lipid theory of heart disease, allows the doctors to make huge profits from bypass surgery, drugs, and heart transplants, caused by high carb/low fat diets, that has been "recommended" by the AMA and the government, for the last 45+ years.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Go 4 It on September 30, 2016, 02:37:50 PM
Just look at who in the world has the highest numbers in obesity and heart disease and what they are eating =USA.... Asians historically eat super high carb, low fat, low protein, low in sugar and processed foods, and look at their rates of obesity and heart disease...and look at their body types most are very lean and slender. However, now that the western food franchises such as McDonalds have made their way across the globe, the body types of these  Asians are beginning to change.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Erik C on September 30, 2016, 03:00:58 PM
Asians historically eat super high carb, low fat, low protein, low in sugar and processed foods, and look at their rates of obesity and heart disease...and look at their body types most are very lean and slender.

Most Asians are lean, and slender because they are starving. They don't eat much of anything, and you won't see a cut set of abs on any of them, because their carb diet they are starving on, is forcing their body to hoard fat on the most likely spot, on the stomach. None of the Asian statistics are real since most Asians aren't autopsied, just thrown in a hole and buried, or burnt. No death certificates even.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Go 4 It on September 30, 2016, 03:10:11 PM
Most Asians are lean, and slender because they are starving. They don't eat much of anything, and you won't see a cut set of abs on any of them, because their carb diet they are starving on, is forcing their body to hoard fat on the most likely spot, on the stomach. None of the Asian statistics are real since most Asians aren't autopsied, just thrown in a hole and buried, or burnt. No death certificates even.
We are talking about heart disease and obesity, having a six pack has nothing to do with health. These cultures typically eat rice, noodles, veggies, fruit, and very little protein mostly coming from fish. Dude its a no brainer, carbs do not cause obesity, it's the combination of high fat foods, combined with high processed carbs/sugar that cause this.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 03:12:22 PM
Most Asians are lean, and slender because they are starving. They don't eat much of anything, and you won't see a cut set of abs on any of them, because their carb diet they are starving on, is forcing their body to hoard fat on the most likely spot, on the stomach. None of the Asian statistics are real since most Asians aren't autopsied, just thrown in a hole and buried, or burnt. No death certificates even.

hahaha... spot on

People are lean because they dont eat excessive calories, it has very little to do with the actual content of their diet.

Inuits eat a very high calorie high fat diet, they have to because its fucking freezing cold, people in the Caribbean eat very little because its fucking roasting...
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 03:13:37 PM
We are talking about heart disease and obesity, having a six pack has nothing to do with health. These cultures typically eat rice, noodles, veggies, fruit, and very little protein mostly coming from fish. Dude its a no brainer, carbs do not cause obesity, it's the combination of high fat foods, combined with high processed carbs/sugar that cause this.

no it isnt, its excessive calorie intake
If you heat a high carb diet and only eat 2000 cals you wont get fat...
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on September 30, 2016, 03:14:39 PM
We are talking about heart disease and obesity, having a six pack has nothing to do with health. These cultures typically eat rice, noodles, veggies, fruit, and very little protein mostly coming from fish. Dude its a no brainer, carbs do not cause obesity, it's the combination of high fat foods, combined with high processed carbs/sugar that cause this.

Finally somebody talks with sense the reason people are so fat because of the excessive amount of sugar they consume, go into the supermarket and everything is filled with sugar, cereals, sauces, snacks this cause your blood sugar to crash your hormones go out of whack causing you to overeat and this is stored as bodyfat add in the high sodium in the foods and now you are fat and bloated.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Erik C on September 30, 2016, 03:15:17 PM
We are talking about heart disease and obesity, having a six pack has nothing to do with health. These cultures typically eat rice, noodles, veggies, fruit, and very little protein mostly coming from fish. Dude its a no brainer, carbs do not cause obesity, it's the combination of high fat foods, combined with high processed carbs/sugar that cause this.

Look up "High Homocysteine Levels and Heart Disease." That's the real truth about the cause of heart disease. And it's from eating carbs.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 03:18:40 PM
Finally somebody talks with sense the reason people are so fat because of the excessive amount of sugar they consume, go into the supermarket and everything is filled with sugar, cereals, sauces, snacks this cause your blood sugar to crash your hormones go out of whack causing you to overeat and this is stored as bodyfat add in the high sodium in the foods and now you are fat and bloated.
go and eat 2000 cals of sugar and se how fat you get...
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 03:26:32 PM
I eat cakes biscuits , crisps chocolate, flap jacks, bacon ham, virtually everything a bodybuilder shouldnt and this is the furthest out of shape I have been in the last 4 years
(https://s22.postimg.org/gtq1f0nwx/my_fattest.jpg)

throw your latest pic up hot shot....
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Go 4 It on September 30, 2016, 03:27:36 PM
Look up "High Homocysteine Levels and Heart Disease." That's the real truth about the cause of heart disease. And it's from eating carbs.
This dude eats excess of 5,000 cals a day, he is a cyclist, downs 30 bananas a day, and usually a white rice meal at night, been doing this diet for 15 years, just did a dexa bodyfat scan and register 3.8 bodyfat, no meat mostly raw vegan.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on September 30, 2016, 03:27:55 PM
go and eat 2000 cals of sugar and se how fat you get...

All sugars are not created equal if you use sugar from nature like honey, maple syrup, eat some raisins you will be fine, the problem is manufacturers are cheap and want to make as much money as possible so they use man made  refined sugar and high fructose corn syrup in their products this is poison for the body it cant handle it and after many years you end up fat with diabetes.  
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 03:30:13 PM
All sugars are not created equal if you use sugar from nature like honey, maple syrup, eat some raisins you will be fine, the problem is manufacturers are cheap and want to make as much money as possible so they use man made  refined sugar and high fructose corn syrup in their products this is poison for the body it cant handle it and after many years you end up fat with diabetes.  

this will go down alongside ESFs car park Meme and daughters and sons...

fucking buffoon

wheres your pic trainer?
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 03:31:41 PM
This dude eats excess of 5,000 cals a day, he is a cyclist, downs 30 bananas a day, and usually a white rice meal at night, been doing this diet for 15 years, just did a dexa bodyfat scan and register 3.8 bodyfat, no meat mostly raw vegan.
he might be 3.8 bf hes also around 3.5 muscle, hes skinny fat FFS.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Go 4 It on September 30, 2016, 03:34:13 PM
he might be 3.8 bf hes also around 3.5 muscle, hes skinny fat FFS.
Once again we are talking about obesity, heart disease, and health...not big muscles.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on September 30, 2016, 03:34:25 PM
I eat cakes biscuits , crisps chocolate, flap jacks, bacon ham, virtually everything a bodybuilder shouldnt and this is the furthest out of shape I have been in the last 4 years
(https://s22.postimg.org/gtq1f0nwx/my_fattest.jpg)

throw your latest pic up hot shot....

You are one of the dumbest guys on here let me explain something to you there are different body types ectomorph, mesomorph and endomorph, ecto produces the lowest amount of insulin followed by meso and endo produces the highest, when you eat the crap you mention the blood sugar crashes in all body types but because the ecto produces low insulin he does not get fat easily but he will still end up with diabetes, plus add steroids to the equation and you will look good, does not mean that you are healthy you will still  end up with diabetes, high blood pressure and heart problems because of the shitty diet.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Erik C on September 30, 2016, 03:35:07 PM
This dude eats excess of 5,000 cals a day, he is a cyclist, downs 30 bananas a day, and usually a white rice meal at night, been doing this diet for 15 years, just did a dexa bodyfat scan and register 3.8 bodyfat, no meat mostly raw vegan.

And the twink looks like shit. I eat more than 5000 calories per day, mostly fat and protein, and I have muscles, and no sagging skin, as he does.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Go 4 It on September 30, 2016, 03:37:29 PM
And the twink looks like shit. I eat more than 5000 calories per day, mostly fat and protein, and I have muscles, and no sagging skin, as he does.
Once again we are talking about obesity and heart disease..related to eating carbs, not big muscles.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 03:37:43 PM
You are one of the dumbest guys on here let me explain something to you there are different body types ectomorph, mesomorph and endomorph, ecto produces the lowest amount of insulin followed by meso and endo produces the highest, when you eat the crap you mention the blood sugar crashes in all body types but because the ecto produces low insulin he does not get fat easily but he will still end up with diabetes, plus add steroids to the equation and you will look good, does not mean that you are healthy you will still  end up with diabetes, high blood pressure and heart problems because of the shitty diet.

so what body type am I ?

And way to go to admit you're a healthy fat twat....
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 03:41:45 PM
Once again we are talking about obesity and heart disease..related to eating carbs, not big muscles.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=501409.0;attach=539057;image)
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on September 30, 2016, 03:43:49 PM
so what body type am I ?

And way to go to admit you're a healthy fat twat....

You are either an ecto or meso I know for sure you are not an endomorph these are the people who struggle with their weight and even when they diet they dont look that lean.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 30, 2016, 03:44:20 PM
Just look at who in the world has the highest numbers in obesity and heart disease and what they are eating =USA.... Asians historically eat super high carb, low fat, low protein, low in sugar and processed foods, and look at their rates of obesity and heart disease...and look at their body types most are very lean and slender. However, now that the western food franchises such as McDonalds have made their way across the globe, the body types of these  Asians are beginning to change.

Asians are at a high risk of Diabetes...Have been for decades...When you have diabetes, you're at a higher rate of heart disease.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on September 30, 2016, 03:45:13 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=501409.0;attach=539057;image)

What you have there is good except for the bacon and the  cornflakes get rid of those and you will be ok.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Go 4 It on September 30, 2016, 03:46:40 PM
What you have there is good except for the bacon and the  cornflakes get rid of those and you will be ok.
Haha! Yes, this was a cheat meal, and I'm American, and come from a country that has the highest rate of obesity and heart disease, which even more proves my point, you would never see someone in Asia eat this for breakfast.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 03:48:31 PM
Haha! Yes, this was a cheat meal, and I'm American, and come from a country that has the highest rate of obesity and heart disease, which even more proves my point, you would never see someone in Asia eat this for breakfast.

Oh Really?
I remeber you saying you ate that every day and kept lean..  
So I thought this would be a funny post. .this is my daily breakfast and every morning I get all kinds of crazy reactions regarding the amount of food im taking down from my coworkers. .the most common question I get is "aren't eating all those eggs bad for you? " So I was wondering if you guys have any similar experiences in your work place regarding your body building lifestyle lol?
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=501409.0
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on September 30, 2016, 03:50:27 PM
Haha! Yes, this was a cheat meal, and I'm American, and come from a country that has the highest rate of obesity and heart disease, which even more proves my point, you would never see someone in Asia eat this for breakfast.


Asians average life span is 73 for male and 79 for female. Same as America...Not eating large amounts of meat hasn't made them live longer. Why is that?
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on September 30, 2016, 03:52:29 PM
Haha! Yes, this was a cheat meal, and I'm American, and come from a country that has the highest rate of obesity and heart disease, which even more proves my point, you would never see someone in Asia eat this for breakfast.

If you really want to eat it this would be your best choice.

(http://www.wellshirefarms.com/images/allergen_products_photo/large/81157_WEO_Dry_Rubbed_Pork_Bacon-Product_Photo.jpg)

(http://www.glutenfreeislife.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/0031.jpg)
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Go 4 It on September 30, 2016, 03:53:24 PM
Oh Really?
I remeber you saying you ate that every day and kept lean..  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=501409.0
I definitely eat the egg whites, oats, and banana, everyday..still do, the pancakes and bacon is something I'll add in every once in a while, and just because i have abs once again doesn't mean I'm healthy.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 03:53:49 PM
If you really want to eat it this would be your best choice.

(http://www.wellshirefarms.com/images/allergen_products_photo/large/81157_WEO_Dry_Rubbed_Pork_Bacon-Product_Photo.jpg)  

(http://www.glutenfreeislife.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/0031.jpg)
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/02/mj-laughing.gif)
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 03:55:09 PM
I definitely eat the egg whites, oats, and banana, everyday..still do, the pancakes and bacon is something I'll add in every once in a while, and just because i have abs once again doesn't mean I'm healthy.

so you lied, and let the thread go for over 50 pages , many called you out as being full of shit.

I suppose you still want us to believe your natty now.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Go 4 It on September 30, 2016, 03:55:52 PM

Asians average life span is 73 for male and 79 for female. Same as America...Not eating large amounts of meat hasn't made them live longer. Why is that?
We are talking about obesity and heart disease, and carbohydrates, not life span. Americans have the highest rates of obesity and heart disease, why is that.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on September 30, 2016, 03:56:47 PM
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/02/mj-laughing.gif)

I will have the last laugh because of my organic diet and herbs I got a clean bill of health from the doctor even though I am on high amounts of roids and I can say for sure that this is because of my diet because when I use to juice plus eat crap back in the day my bloodwork was not good.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 03:57:35 PM
We are talking about obesity and heart disease, and carbohydrates, not life span. Americans have the highest rates of obesity and heart disease, why is that.

Because the eat too fucking much... jeez how hard can this be....
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Go 4 It on September 30, 2016, 04:03:11 PM
so you lied, and let the thread go for over 50 pages , many called you out as being full of shit.

I suppose you still want us to believe your natty now.
Haha, lied about what? that was my breakfast, I still eat that meal quite often, I'm a ectomorph, my genetics are that I am small and lean, so I have to eat a lot just to keep the little size I do have, different people have different genetics, thats life, some people have a hard time getting lean, some people have a hard time putting on size (me)...
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 04:08:51 PM
Haha, lied about what? that was my breakfast, I still eat that meal quite often, I'm a ectomorph, my genetics are that I am small and lean, so I have to eat a lot just to keep the little size I do have, different people have different genetics, thats life, some people have a hard time getting lean, some people have a hard time putting on size (me)...

you claimed you ate it every day, never mind, if people care they will read the thread.

Ecto endo meso...zero difference, metabolisms are pretty much the same, skinny people dont eat much and fat people do.

The point is there are loads of carbs in there and you are here banging on about how bad carbs are for people.



Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Erik C on September 30, 2016, 04:12:09 PM
Once again we are talking about obesity and heart disease..related to eating carbs, not big muscles.

Well, I don't eat much carbs, just high fat and protein, and plenty of it. I'm not obese and I don't have heart disease.

Several years ago, I had to get a very complete physical. Had every kind of test and blood tests, everything. It included me writing up what I ate. Spent all day at the hospital. Next day I get a call. We need to do some tests over. So back to the hospital, on the treadmill running like mad, heart sonogram, the works. Get a call next day again. Seems the head of cardiology was overseeing the young doctor, who did the original testing, wigged out when he compared my heart results with the diet that I reported, and thought the young doctor fucked up the tests, because my heart was perfect, not the slightest blockage! Still I was warned to change my diet or it would catch up with me, LOL!
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: mazrim on September 30, 2016, 04:17:09 PM
you claimed you ate it every day, never mind, if people care they will read the thread.

Ecto endo meso...zero difference, metabolisms are pretty much the same, skinny people dont eat much and fat people do.

The point is there are loads of carbs in there and you are here banging on about how bad carbs are for people.




I'm dumb and have no idea how to multiquote but go4it posted this on the previous page "Dude its a no brainer, carbs do not cause obesity". He posted that they do not. I think you may be misunderstanding what he is saying.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 04:19:31 PM
I'm dumb and have no idea how to multiquote but go4it posted this on the previous page "Dude its a no brainer, carbs do not cause obesity". He posted that they do not. I think you may be misunderstanding what he is saying.
correct, Im tired and its time for bed, sorry gofrit, I lost my way... :P
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Go 4 It on September 30, 2016, 04:22:47 PM
Well, I don't eat much carbs, just high fat and protein, and plenty of it. I'm not obese and I don't have heart disease.

Several years ago, I had to get a very complete physical. Had every kind of test and blood tests, everything. It included me writing up what I ate. Spent all day at the hospital. Next day I get a call. We need to do some tests over. So back to the hospital, on the treadmill running like mad, heart sonogram, the works. Get a call next day again. Seems the head of cardiology was overseeing the young doctor, who did the original testing, wigged out when he compared my heart results with the diet that I reported, and thought the young doctor fucked up the tests, because my heart was perfect, not the slightest blockage! Still I was warned to change my diet or it would catch up with me, LOL!
I never said fat causes heart disease, its the combination of saturated fats, with highly processed carbs/sugar that will cause obesity and heart disease.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on September 30, 2016, 04:24:57 PM
I never said fat causes heart disease, its the combination of saturated fats, with highly processed carbs/sugar that will cause obesity and heart disease.
My grandad ate cakes and biscuits for breakfast every morning, lived to 87

Some people get high cholesterol regardless of how they eat.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Erik C on September 30, 2016, 04:26:55 PM
I never said fat causes heart disease, its the combination of saturated fats, with highly processed carbs/sugar that will cause obesity and heart disease.

No, again. It is without a doubt caused by High Homocysteine Levels, from eating carbs. Really, look it up!
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Earl1972 on September 30, 2016, 05:56:49 PM

generally obesity, bad diets, drugs, smoking, and unhealthy sedintary living...

correlation does not mean causation. This is a common denominator and misstake that unintelligent people make. The correlation in some of these "studies" are flawed in that of vegan diets are compared to people in a group that includes a big group of people with hotdog and pizza "diets".

just about everybody eats meat

you can't say that about drugs or smoking

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Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Earl1972 on September 30, 2016, 06:00:16 PM
I have no time for such childish pursuit's, I associate vegans with teenage girls going through a phase or a hippy/tree hugger type that wears sandals..



this is a childish stance people take to avoid the truth

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Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: cephissus on September 30, 2016, 06:02:00 PM
Spoke to a guy i know who has been vegetarian for around a year, his training is on its arse and hes declining rapidly.
Hes eating 8 meals a day to try and take in enough protein.

Seriously, whats wrong with people who want to make life so difficult for themselves.

How is it 'hard' to get enough of any nutrient?

It's not like you can't walk into any grocery store and buy a bag of soy meats with macros identical to chicken, beef, fish...
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on September 30, 2016, 09:46:26 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=501409.0;attach=539057;image)

Did you really just dig up a post from three years ago to win an argument?  ;D
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Eric2 on September 30, 2016, 09:52:08 PM
Protein in bodybuilding is way overrated. Aside from that, there are great vegan ways to get complete protein and plenty of it. Oddly enough these are not methods derived from vegans, yet part of world diets from pre biblical times. Nothing new here folks. Don't buy the hype that you need x Amount of protein per pound of bodyweight to gain muscle. There is no science behind it. Do your own research with an open mind.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: gib on October 01, 2016, 01:31:20 AM
Best gains I ever had were on a vegan diet. Would probably the case for most people but you need to know what you are doing and a little about nutrition.

I admit I occasionally some fish (salmon) around 2 times a week. Other than that purely vegan.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: mazrim on October 01, 2016, 03:58:12 AM
Best gains I ever had were on a vegan diet. Would probably the case for most people but you need to know what you are doing and a little about nutrition.

I admit I occasionally some fish (salmon) around 2 times a week. Other than that purely vegan.
Nope, there is no extra magic to being vegan.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Tapeworm on October 01, 2016, 05:54:05 AM
I've considered eating vegetarian or vegan for years and I never do it because meat tastes so damn good.

I might one day, or I might be full of shit forever.  But I love animals.  Also cooked, unfortunately.  Disquietude, dudes.  :(
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on October 01, 2016, 06:51:02 AM
Best gains I ever had were on a vegan diet. Would probably the case for most people but you need to know what you are doing and a little about nutrition.

I admit I occasionally some fish (salmon) around 2 times a week. Other than that purely vegan.

fuckwit

apart from my white skin, Im totally black.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Tapeworm on October 01, 2016, 07:00:49 AM
It's alright.  He's Australian.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: gib on October 01, 2016, 07:37:02 AM
fuckwit

apart from my white skin, Im totally black.

What is it about my post that would prompt to call me a rude name?

And what relevance is your perception of race to veganism?
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on October 01, 2016, 08:16:56 AM
What is it about my post that would prompt to call me a rude name?

And what relevance is your perception of race to veganism?
you cant be a vegan and eat fish, just like you cant be white and be black.

"Im a christian in every way, except I dont believe in God."
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: 8 INCH not biceps on October 01, 2016, 10:12:39 AM
My grandad ate cakes and biscuits for breakfast every morning, lived to 87

Some people get high cholesterol regardless of how they eat.

Age has a lot to do with genetics and eating healthy will allow you to live as long as your genetics allow, unhealthy foods will shorten your lifespan, if your grandad ate healthier he could have lived to a 100 instead of 87
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Simple Simon on October 01, 2016, 10:13:25 AM
Age has a lot to do with genetics and eating healthy will allow you to live as long as your genetics allow, unhealthy foods will shorten your lifespan, if your grandad ate healthier he could have lived to a 100 instead of 87
ne he couldnt, he got run over by a bus.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: OB1 on October 01, 2016, 11:12:10 AM
Age has a lot to do with genetics and eating healthy will allow you to live as long as your genetics allow, unhealthy foods will shorten your lifespan, if your grandad ate healthier he could have lived to a 100 instead of 87

Bullshit.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Tapeworm on October 02, 2016, 07:24:39 AM
ne he couldnt, he got run over by a bus.

Lol.  Guess he died for my grins.
Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: kreator on October 03, 2016, 01:25:18 AM
this is how my diet would look like if my only goal was a longer lifespan:

25 - 30 % protein ( meat, fish, eggs)
50%  fat ( fatty meat, fatty fish, eggs, omega 3, olive oil, coconut oil, nuts ...)
20 - 25 % carbs ( nutrient dense sources like vegetables, fruit, some extra water soluble fiber supplements)



Title: Re: Vegetarianism
Post by: Hack Benchers on October 03, 2016, 01:36:48 AM
(https://s14.postimg.org/w2xvg13bl/1398903_10200684189856104_174903092_o.jpg)

Did you really just dig up a post from three years ago to win an argument?  ;D
That was a great thread though!!