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Did not see that coming.
Paul Ryan: ‘We’re going to be living with Obamacare for the foreseeable future"
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:o :o :o
Did not see that coming.
95% of GB'ERS keep healthcare
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Trump has failed to consolidate power.
He needs to oust the troublemakers from his party.
Two of his biggest initiatives scrapped so soon; the muzzie ban and health care make over.
Needs to start laying foundations for that wall now if he wants to save himself.
He has great vision and determination but maybe he has been caught by surprise of what the game is like at that level.
mass243
senior political analist
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Fuck. Was looking forward to the tax break.
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:o :o :o
Did not see that coming.
This was obvious. No surprise.
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7 years in the making
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Trump has failed to consolidate power.
He needs to oust the troublemakers from his party.
Two of his biggest initiatives scrapped so soon; the muzzie ban and health care make over.
Needs to start laying foundations for that wall now if he wants to save himself.
He has great vision and determination but maybe he has been caught by surprise of what the game is like at that level.
mass243
senior political analist
time to drain the GOP swamp
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Which means Trump get the credit for having tried, when Obama care premiums get out of hand, and eventually fails. All blame will fall on the democrats and establishment republicans. Trump knows what he is doing. He is playing the crooked dumb establishment like a fiddle.
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Which means Trump get the credit for having tried, when Obama care premiums get out of hand, and eventually fails. All blame will fall on the democrats and establishment republicans. Trump knows what he is doing. He is playing the crooked dumb establishment like a fiddle.
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Low energy. Sad.
Ryan must be now throwing a rope over a beam. ;D
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Low energy. Sad.
Ryan must be now throwing a rope over a beam. ;D
Ryan hated Trump but Trump made him a deal. Publicly endorse him and trump will let him Lead the Healthcare reform bill as he wants. Now it failed Ryan will look like the asshole and not Trump.
Well played Trump.
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7 years in the making
Getbig's #1 political commentator has spoken!
BTW, do you even lift?
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Getbig's #1 political commentator has spoken!
BTW, do you even lift?
Thank you
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Democrat Plant!!!!!!!!! 2018 belongs to the donkey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Trump has failed to consolidate power.
He needs to oust the troublemakers from his party.
Two of his biggest initiatives scrapped so soon; the muzzie ban and health care make over.
Needs to start laying foundations for that wall now if he wants to save himself.
He has great vision and determination but maybe he has been caught by surprise of what the game is like at that level.
mass243
senior political analist
Yup. Fail and fail. Thanks Trump.
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It wasn't going to be that easy..
Drain the swamp..
Maga...
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Somebody needs to check up on Adonis and the coach..
Probably on suicide watch...
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All kidding side..
The trump nut huggers should of realized it's not that easy..
Was not easy for Obama..
Now it's not going to be easy for trump :-\
Strike 2..
First immigration..
Now Obama care..
Trump should focus on tax breaks...
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Ryan hated Trump but Trump made him a deal. Publicly endorse him and trump will let him Lead the Healthcare reform bill as he wants. Now it failed Ryan will look like the asshole and not Trump.
Well played Trump.
I see this a lot from people so they are falling for it if that was the plan. Blaming Ryan. I don't in this case fully. I blame both/left leaning republicans. Trump endorsed a bad plan. He was better to not endorse this plan at all and go with an actual repeal and replace plan that also may not have passed due to the more liberal leaning republicans but at least it would have looked better.
Trump always said that it was better politically to let Obamacare just implode, but if this was his plan it was not a good way of going about it at all.
I am happy that there are enough sane people to not have passed this plan either in the republican party at least. Both Obamacare and this are not good. The spin now is that it will be on the democrats like Trump just announced but it still leaves a bad taste in your mouth when they basically just pushed a plan that was close to the original so thats pretty bad if the majority of them feel that way.
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It's friday bitches, time for Tee time at mar-a-lago ,
$3,000,000.000 in tax payer money is nothing compared to the hard work he has done.
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/politics/democrats-obamacare-glee/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/politics/democrats-obamacare-glee/index.html)
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Lmao
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Yup. Fail and fail. Thanks Trump.
I'm sure he will soon figure his ways to get stuff done.
It should also be remembered he already has had major wins in such short time.
- Ceasing the funding for abortion (this is big and major thing)
- Approving the Keystone pipeline
- Made leader of EU (Merkel) his bitch and got her agreement to increase spending on Nato
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It wasn't going to be that easy..
Drain the swamp..
Maga...
;D
Somebody needs to check up on Adonis and the coach..
Probably on suicide watch...
;D
All kidding side..
The trump nut huggers should of realized it's not that easy..
Was not easy for Obama..
Now it's not going to be easy for trump :-\
Strike 2..
First immigration..
Now Obama care..
Trump should focus on tax breaks...
There is no strike on immigration. He did/is trying to do what he said he would do on that issue. You really can't do anything if they take cases to liberal courts and slow things down. In the end this one will go through unless corruption continues on the supreme court (not unlikely unfortunately). Like you posted, he is fighting a whole entrenched system and it isn't easy/not an overnight task.
More is coming out on just how corrupt the government has become (particularly the last one it appears).
I give him a strike on this one simply because the plan was awful and he endorsed it. Like I posted though, at least this disaster didn't get passed either :) Hopefully, they can get actually get a good plan together now.
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Haha, they do know that a lot of people voted against them because of this issue? Head in sand still. It will continue to implode as it has been.
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/politics/jared-kushner-aspen-ski-trip-obamacare/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/politics/jared-kushner-aspen-ski-trip-obamacare/index.html)
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Haha, they do know that a lot of people voted against them because of this issue? Head in sand still. It will continue to implode as it has been.
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LOL
And he just gave his daughter an office in the west wing and also gave her top secret national security clearance hahahah
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/03/23/ivanka-trumps-west-wing-job-isnt-just-unethical-its-also-dangerous/?utm_term=.e4899cdaed0e (https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/03/23/ivanka-trumps-west-wing-job-isnt-just-unethical-its-also-dangerous/?utm_term=.e4899cdaed0e)
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You seem to have lots of time to sit there all day and post this nonsense.
Are you on someone's payroll?
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It's funny to see Democrats cheering like they won some big victory. Don't forget, you still have to live with Obamacare. Higher premiums, higher deductibles, shitty insurance, etc. Trump isn't the only one who lost. All of America did. Some are just too stupid to realize it yet.
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You seem to have lots of time to sit there all day and post this nonsense.
Are you on someone's payroll?
probably as much time as you have sitting there quoting this nonsense
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It's funny to see Democrats cheering like they won some big victory. Don't forget, you still have to live with Obamacare. Higher premiums, higher deductibles, shitty insurance, etc. Trump isn't the only one who lost. All of America did. Some are just too stupid to realize it yet.
0/10 You didn't even try to stick the landing. ::)
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Take it to the political board losers.
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It's funny to see Democrats cheering like they won some big victory. Don't forget, you still have to live with Obamacare. Higher premiums, higher deductibles, shitty insurance, etc. Trump isn't the only one who lost. All of America did. Some are just too stupid to realize it yet.
How much lower would have insurance premiums and deductibles been under Trumps plan?
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health care in the US is a fucking joke. we are all getting owned
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How much lower would have insurance premiums and deductibles been under Trumps plan?
Not a ton I don't think. That's the problem. Nothing would have really changed.
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There is no strike on immigration. He did/is trying to do what he said he would do on that issue. You really can't do anything if they take cases to liberal courts and slow things down. In the end this one will go through unless corruption continues on the supreme court (not unlikely unfortunately). Like you posted, he is fighting a whole entrenched system and it isn't easy/not an overnight task.
More is coming out on just how corrupt the government has become (particularly the last one it appears).
I give him a strike on this one simply because the plan was awful and he endorsed it. Like I posted though, at least this disaster didn't get passed either :) Hopefully, they can get actually get a good plan together now.
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http://www.themonitor.com/news/article_88dd269a-082e-11e7-9836-c3fea5071f0d.html#tncms-source=article-nav-next (http://www.themonitor.com/news/article_88dd269a-082e-11e7-9836-c3fea5071f0d.html#tncms-source=article-nav-next)
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Lol
Drain the swamp
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Trump nut huggers though it was going to be easy..
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Lol
Drain the swamp
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Trump nut huggers though it was going to be easy..
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lmfao, lots of idiots in this thread.
He is letting Obamacare fail. The plan was quickly made to provide a back-up for the failing ACA. He should have done nothing to begin with and let it fail in the public in the first place then replace it.
They are going to sabotage Obama's legacy by letting it fail, which is more devastating to those who rely on it.
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It's a brilliant political strategy.
Obamacare was always set up to push the big financial hit out to 2017. Now Pelosi and Schumer own it when the entire piece of crap implodes. Then Trump can expose McCain and the other RINOs who went against the new Bill to their constituents .
That's WIN-WIN for Trump right there. In 6 months people will be screaming for anything but Obamacare and the 2018 mid-terms are going to show a huge revolt against anything or anybody tied to Obozocare in any way.
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LOL
And he just gave his daughter an office in the west wing and also gave her top secret national security clearance hahahah
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/03/23/ivanka-trumps-west-wing-job-isnt-just-unethical-its-also-dangerous/?utm_term=.e4899cdaed0e (https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/03/23/ivanka-trumps-west-wing-job-isnt-just-unethical-its-also-dangerous/?utm_term=.e4899cdaed0e)
(http://media.womanista.com/2017/01/ivanka16-49567.jpg)
My God that is a massive step up from Chelsea Clinton.
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It's a brilliant political strategy.
Obamacare was always set up to push the big financial hit out to 2017. Now Pelosi and Schumer own it when the entire piece of crap implodes. Then Trump can expose McCain and the other RINOs who went against the new Bill to their constituents .
That's WIN-WIN for Trump right there. In 6 months people will be screaming for anything but Obamacare and the 2018 mid-terms are going to show a huge revolt against anything or anybody tied to Obozocare in any way.
Exactly.
I think this plan will help more-so than my initial thoughts on doing nothing, since doing nothing would be seen as more sinister and less caring. But now he can say that he tried and the Democrats are to blame.
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Exactly.
I think this plan will help more-so than my initial thoughts on doing nothing, since doing nothing would be seen as more sinister and less caring. But now he can say that he tried and the Democrats are to blame.
Trump doesn't do anything without a plan.
And right in the middle of the Dem gloating tomorrow he will release the illegal Obama administration surveillance activity proof.
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Please, i would like to know the date and time obamacare will collapse ?
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Please, i would like to know the date and time obamacare will collapse ?
Funny how Dumbocrats always want "details", when "Hope and Change" was sufficient detail for them over the past 8 failed years!!!
Obamacare will fail when working class America gets tired of paying the bills for society's leaches.
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lmfao, lots of idiots in this thread.
He is letting Obamacare fail. The plan was quickly made to provide a back-up for the failing ACA. He should have done nothing to begin with and let it fail in the public in the first place then replace it.
They are going to sabotage Obama's legacy by letting it fail, which is more devastating to those who rely on it.
Where's the better plan? This administration will fail before Obamacare.
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Funny how Dumbocrats always want "details", when "Hope and Change" was sufficient detail for them over the past 8 failed years!!!
Obamacare will fail when working class America gets tired of paying the bills for society's leaches.
I'll just jot it down on my calender that Obamacare will fail the date the Southern boarder wall is fully completely
thanks
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Funny how Dumbocrats always want "details", when "Hope and Change" was sufficient detail for them over the past 8 failed years!!!
Obamacare will fail when working class America gets tired of paying the bills for society's leaches.
Man! Do you ever shut the fuck up about stuff. SHUT.THE.FUCK. UP. ::)
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Quinnipiac poll shows 17 percent of American support Trumpcare ...
http://www.businessinsider.com/quinnipiac-poll-shows-17-percent-of-american-support-trumpcare-ahca-2017-3
Seven years and this is what they came up with. What a disaster.
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Please, i would like to know the date and time obamacare will collapse ?
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QFT
First Hillary Clinton was going to jail based on the nut huggers..
Didn't happen...
Next Obama should go to jail or get impeached...
Didn't happen..
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Saving this thread for future ownings..
Obama care will be here for quite a while...
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Please, i would like to know the date and time obamacare will collapse ?
Love the back peddling ...
From the nut huggers...
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Trumps approval rate is at 37 percent today
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/poll-finds-dipping-approval-honesty-ratings-trump/story?id=46311638 (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/poll-finds-dipping-approval-honesty-ratings-trump/story?id=46311638)
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Fuck. Was looking forward to the tax break.
which one?
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which one?
From the new health plan. Wouldn't be getting hit for obamacare that I don't use but the millions of mexicans do and don't pay tax for.
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Qft...
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Trumps approval rate is at 37 percent today
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/poll-finds-dipping-approval-honesty-ratings-trump/story?id=46311638 (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/poll-finds-dipping-approval-honesty-ratings-trump/story?id=46311638)
Just like the polls by ABC showing Clinton likely to beat Trump by a landslide.
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Not a ton I don't think. That's the problem. Nothing would have really changed.
would have been a lot shittier coverage
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Liberals mocking Trump for not immediately solving a problem that THEIR SIDE CREATED! Laughable.
It was a bad bill. I think Trump had it right after the bill got pulled. It's better to let Obamacare collapse on itself....which it already is.
Democunts own this. Eventually we will get the right bill and we'll fix the Obamacare dumpster fire.
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The reason it didn't pass is while it's an improvement on Obama care it's still Obama care. Many Republicans can't support Obama care light. According to liberal spin they are saying Republicans like Obama care more than the new plan. That is complete spin.
The only people who like Obama care are the one of the millions who are suddenly eligible for Medicaid under Obama care. Those who are heavily subsidized also like the plan. The ones that hate it are the middle class forced to buy insurance that is more than their car or mortgage payment that they can't use because of the high deductible.
Obama care has to be repealed before it bankrupts the country. 20,000 pages the Democrats voted for without reading.
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The one thing the media always gets correct is polling.
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From the new health plan. Wouldn't be getting hit for obamacare that I don't use but the millions of mexicans do and don't pay tax for.
you're saying you pay the penalty for not having health insurance?
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The reason it didn't pass is while it's an improvement on Obama care it's still Obama care. Many Republicans can't support Obama care light. According to liberal spin they are saying Republicans like Obama care more than the new plan. That is complete spin.
The only people who like Obama care are the one of the millions who are suddenly eligible for Medicaid under Obama care. Those who are heavily subsidized also like the plan. The ones that hate it are the middle class forced to buy insurance that is more than their car or mortgage payment that they can't use because of the high deductible.
Obama care has to be repealed before it bankrupts the country. 20,000 pages the Democrats voted for without reading.
how many trillions, or quadrillion or quintillion does it take to bankrupt America ???
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Seven years listening to every loudmouth I know MFing "Obama's socialist healthcare." Here and there, seven goddamn years. Now these phony turds have full reign to repeal/replace and they offer dogshit.
These clowns obviously can't govern; embarrassed I was ever f'n associated. GOP needs to die.
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Seven years listening to every loudmouth I know MFing "Obama's socialist healthcare." Here and there, seven goddamn years. Now these phony turds have full reign to repeal/replace and they offer dogshit.
These clowns obviously can't govern; embarrassed I was ever f'n associated. GOP needs to die.
Once you give millions free medicaid it's nearly impossible to take it away. This nation was fine before Obama care. 100 plus years without it.
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The reason it didn't pass is while it's an improvement on Obama care it's still Obama care. Many Republicans can't support Obama care light. According to liberal spin they are saying Republicans like Obama care more than the new plan. That is complete spin.
The only people who like Obama care are the one of the millions who are suddenly eligible for Medicaid under Obama care. Those who are heavily subsidized also like the plan. The ones that hate it are the middle class forced to buy insurance that is more than their car or mortgage payment that they can't use because of the high deductible.
Obama care has to be repealed before it bankrupts the country. 20,000 pages the Democrats voted for without reading.
This. Yes. You are correct sir.
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Once you give millions free medicaid it's nearly impossible to take it away. This nation was fine before Obama care. 100 plus years without it.
Was it, though?
For whom?
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Did not see that coming.
Paul Ryan: ‘We’re going to be living with Obamacare for the foreseeable future"
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How did you not see this coming? There WAS NEVER ANY BROAD SUPPORT for this Shit Ryan plan.
In case you are unaware (which you clearly are) nobody really likes Paul Ryan or his plan, especially Steve Bannon and Donald Trump.
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http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/28/trump-pushes-single-payer-healthcare-tax-increase-on-wealthy/
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Trump Pushes Single Payer Healthcare, Tax Increase on Wealthy
by John Nolte28 Sep 20152,551
During his “60 Minutes” interview Sunday, Republican presidential front-runner appeared to come out in favor of a form of single payer health insurance for the uninsured (although he does says he’s going to “take care of everybody”) and openly called for raising taxes on the wealthy. [emphasis added]
Donald Trump: Obamacare’s going to be repealed and replaced. Obamacare is a disaster if you look at what’s going on with premiums where they’re up 40, 50, 55 percent.
Scott Pelley: How do you fix it?
Donald Trump: There’s many different ways, by the way. Everybody’s got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, “No, no, the lower 25 percent that can’t afford private. But–”
Scott Pelley: Universal health care.
Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.
Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?
Donald Trump: They’re going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably–
Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
Donald Trump: —the government’s gonna pay for it. But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.
Trump was equally forthcoming about his plans to raise taxes on the wealthy:
Scott Pelley: Revolution is easy, governing is hard and what I’d like to get to is how you intend to govern the country if you are elected president. What’s your tax plan?
Donald Trump: It’s a substantial reduction for the middle-income people. Because our middle class, Scott, is being absolutely decimated. It will be a corporate also reduction, I think it’ll be a great incentive for corporations.
Scott Pelley: Who are you going to raise taxes on?
Donald Trump: If you look at actually raise, some very wealthy are going to be raised. Some people that are getting unfair deductions are going to be raised. But overall it’s going to be a tremendous incentive to grow the economy and we’re going to take in the same or more money. And I think we’re going to have something that’s going to be spectacular.
Scott Pelley: But Republicans don’t raise taxes.
Donald Trump: Well, we’re not raising taxes.
Scott Pelley: What kind of Republican are you?
Donald Trump: I mean the only, well, I’m a pretty good Republican. But, I will tell you this, I do have some differences. I don’t want to have certain people on Wall Street getting away with paying no tax.
As I wrote two weeks ago, Trump is already running a general election campaign. Rather than pander to the GOP base, he is advertising loudly beforehand that on issues such as taxes, health care, and trade he is not your standard conservative.
Monday morning Trump unveiled some of the details of his tax plan. The seven current tax brackets will be cut to just four: zero percent, ten percent, twenty percent, and twenty-five percent. Business taxes across the board will be lowered to just 15%. The immoral Estate Tax will be fully repealed. The wealthy will lose many loopholes.
Single people who earn less than $25, 000 and married couples who earn less than $50,000 will pay no income tax. This is another proposal that defies in the face of a strongly held conservative belief that all income earners should pay some taxes, even if it is just 1%, in order to have skin in the game.
Overall, Trump is lowering taxes and has agreed to repeal ObamaCare.
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I'm sure he will soon figure his ways to get stuff done.
It should also be remembered he already has had major wins in such short time.
- Ceasing the funding for abortion (this is big and major thing)
- Approving the Keystone pipeline
- Made leader of EU (Merkel) his bitch and got her agreement to increase spending on Nato
Made Merkel his bitch? That dumbfuck sat there with his thumb in his ass like a little bitch when she was at the White House. He was so intimidated he didn't know what to do. She has a doctorate, and our dumbfuck president is nothing but a shitty businessman/con artist. He couldn't even speak he's so fuckin dumb. Major wins? Not hardly. The very thing he ran his entire campaign on was an epic fail.
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Trump's book
In 2000, Trump wrote a book called The America We Deserve, in which he praised universal healthcare systems:
"We must have universal healthcare...I'm a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses...
Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork..
The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans. There are fewer medical lawsuits, less loss of labor to sickness, and lower costs to companies paying for the medical care of their employees. If the program were in place in Massachusetts in 1999 it would have reduced administrative costs by $2.5 million. We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing."
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Trump's own Personal View is that we should have single-payer healthcare.
The dumbass Democrats and the dumbass Republicans have done EVERYTHING they can to stop that from happening.
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Why the fuck won't he come out and say it then? He'd get every democrat in this country on board. Like yesterday.
Not too mention I think enough Republicans would find their spine and get on board as well. Enough to pass it and
never have to go through this health care fuck around ever again.
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Don't make promises you can't keep.
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LOL
And he just gave his daughter an office in the west wing and also gave her top secret national security clearance hahahah
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/03/23/ivanka-trumps-west-wing-job-isnt-just-unethical-its-also-dangerous/?utm_term=.e4899cdaed0e (https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/03/23/ivanka-trumps-west-wing-job-isnt-just-unethical-its-also-dangerous/?utm_term=.e4899cdaed0e)
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Imagine how nice it would feel to ejaculate deep into her vagina.
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Trump's own Personal View is that we should have single-payer healthcare.
The dumbass Democrats and the dumbass Republicans have done EVERYTHING they can to stop that from happening.
Corporate greed man... corporate greed.
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Why the fuck won't he come out and say it then? He'd get every democrat in this country on board. Like yesterday.
Not too mention I think enough Republicans would find their spine and get on board as well. Enough to pass it and
never have to go through this health care fuck around ever again.
He said in his press conference today that he wants the Democrats help and that its necessary for them to help in a new bill.
I do not think they are up to the task either. We all know Trump and Bernie could get together, craft a plan and nobody would support it because of the control of the Insurance companies have on politicians and the entire system.
Luckily, Trump does have Steve Bannon on his side who is a FIERCE advocate for Single-Payer and a populist solution. I just don't think the Democrats and Republicans are in support of it, even if the people are.
Breitbart has been running tons of articles against Paul Ryan and his shitty plan for a long time and have been ESPECIALLY BRUTAL this past week towards Paul Ryan and his shitty plan. This is how you start to change minds.
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He said in his press conference today that he wants the Democrats help and that its necessary for them to help in a new bill.
I do not think they are up to the task either. We all know Trump and Bernie could get together, craft a plan and nobody would support it because of the control of the Insurance companies have on politicians and the entire system.
Luckily, Trump does have Steve Bannon on his side who is a FIERCE advocate for Single-Payer and a populist solution. I just don't think the Democrats and Republicans are in support of it, even if the people are.
Breitbart has been running tons of articles against Paul Ryan and his shitty plan for a long time and have been ESPECIALLY BRUTAL this past week towards Paul Ryan and his shitty plan. This is how you start to change minds.
I disagree only in the sense about democrats being against it. If he proposed a clean bill, and strong armed Ryan and McConnell to put it to a vote, every Dem would vote for it. But, if it's a bill for single payer but has
some baggage attached that no dem can support it's a non starter. Let's hope. You know I don't like the guy and think very little of him, but single payer health care would put his ass on Mount Rushmore.
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Is Hillary still going to jail?
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LOL
And he just gave his daughter an office in the west wing and also gave her top secret national security clearance hahahah
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/03/23/ivanka-trumps-west-wing-job-isnt-just-unethical-its-also-dangerous/?utm_term=.e4899cdaed0e (https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/03/23/ivanka-trumps-west-wing-job-isnt-just-unethical-its-also-dangerous/?utm_term=.e4899cdaed0e)
(http://media.womanista.com/2017/01/ivanka16-49567.jpg)
Does she know anything about national security?
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I disagree only in the sense about democrats being against it. If he proposed a clean bill, and strong armed Ryan and McConnell to put it to a vote, every Dem would vote for it. But, if it's a bill for single payer but has
some baggage attached that no dem can support it's a non starter. Let's hope. You know I don't like the guy and think very little of him, but single payer health care would put his ass on Mount Rushmore.
Were you not awake when they were crafting Obamacare? Did you not hear Hillary Clinton when she debated Bernie Sanders when single Payer came up?
Let me remind you of the Democrat position as it seems you have forgotten:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-single-payer-health-care-will-never-ever-happen/
Hillary Clinton: Single-payer health care will "never, ever" happen
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Is Hillary still going to jail?
Trumps master plan is that she will eventually implode and walk into a jail cell voluntarily
Liberals all over will see this master plan that he alone could come up with
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Is Hillary still going to jail?
I don't think that is a priority right now, nor should it be.
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Made Merkel his bitch? That dumbfuck sat there with his thumb in his ass like a little bitch when she was at the White House. He was so intimidated he didn't know what to do. She has a doctorate, and our dumbfuck president is nothing but a shitty businessman/con artist. He couldn't even speak he's so fuckin dumb. Major wins? Not hardly. The very thing he ran his entire campaign on was an epic fail.
Still waiting for you to explain how a personal tax return will show russian ties.
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Fucking fat bacon eating twat.
Americant incarnate.
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Americant incarnate.
Tell us about your glorious system and the waiting times for MRIs and such....
keep in mind my Canadian citizen neighbors already have though....
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Tell us about your glorious system and the waiting times for MRIs and such....
keep in mind my Canadian citizen neighbors already have though....
I'm not a lardass pig. I do not need to see a doctor every 5 minutes. Food is my medicine.
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I don't think that is a priority right now, nor should it be.
Kind of a big deal, though, the "Lock her up" chants and all. So many voters obsessed ONLY with that.
Odd he wouldn't follow through, huh?
:)
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Food is my medicine.
The earth is my bed.
My voice is my instrument.
This ramen is my girlfriend.
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Kind of a big deal, though, the "Lock her up" chants and all. So many voters obsessed ONLY with that.
Odd he wouldn't follow through, huh?
:)
I suppose he could suspend the writ of Habeas Corpus for her, like the traitor Abraham Lincoln did but nobody wants that to happen.
I am sure the DOJ will look into what she did if necessary. Lock Her Up is great and I love that it always comes up whenever he name surfaces. We will not forget, ever.
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Were you not awake when they were crafting Obamacare? Did you not hear Hillary Clinton when she debated Bernie Sanders when single Payer came up?
Let me remind you of the Democrat position as it seems you have forgotten:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-single-payer-health-care-will-never-ever-happen/
Hillary Clinton: Single-payer health care will "never, ever" happen
Context matters. She was saying that as a matter of practicality, single payer can't happen. She wasn't saying that she doesn't support it
or that democrats don't or won't support it.
She's wrong. It can and should happen. It should have happened in 2009 when dems had total control. But Obama was so fucking obsessed
with the Republicans liking him that he tried to get them involved by offering the ACA which is the fucking Heritage Foundations original
plan. Romneycare is what it was. Probably didn't help having Joe Leiberman cocking things up. Talk about a total fucking cockroach.
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I suppose he could suspend the writ of Habeas Corpus for her, like the traitor Abraham Lincoln did but nobody wants that to happen.
I am sure the DOJ will look into what she did if necessary. Lock Her Up is great and I love that it always comes up whenever he name surfaces. We will not forget, ever.
Dummy forgot about the Constitution to fire up his retards? So many ate that shit up, though.
Say it ain't so.
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Context matters. She was saying that as a matter of practicality, single payer can't happen. She wasn't saying that she doesn't support it
or that democrats don't or won't support it.
She's wrong. It can and should happen. It should have happened in 2009 when dems had total control. But Obama was so fucking obsessed
with the Republicans liking him that he tried to get them involved by offering the ACA which is the fucking Heritage Foundations original
plan. Romneycare is what it was. Probably didn't help having Joe Leiberman cocking things up. Talk about a total fucking cockroach.
The Democrats are the leading recipients of the Health Insurance Industry. Hillary Clinton got 20 times the amount from them than did Donald Trump.
You are kidding yourself if you think the Democrats want to kick the Insurance companies to the curb. If anyone gets Single Payer to work, it will be someone like Donald Trump or Bernie, moreso Donald Trump because he will not give an inch whereas Bernie has been cucking big league, especially after he sold out to the DNC and to Hillary Clinton. He ruined himself and compromised his principles.
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Trump's ultimatum sure did impress the congressional Republicans.
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The Democrats are the leading recipients of the Health Insurance Industry. Hillary Clinton got 20 times the amount from them than did Donald Trump.
You are kidding yourself if you think the Democrats want to kick the Insurance companies to the curb. If anyone gets Single Payer to work, it will be someone like Donald Trump or Bernie, moreso Donald Trump because he will not give an inch whereas Bernie has been cucking big league, especially after he sold out to the DNC and to Hillary Clinton. He ruined himself and compromised his principles.
He did no such thing. Bernie is the purest man we have in all of American politics.
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Dummy forgot about the Constitution to fire up his retards? So many ate that shit up, though.
Say it ain't so.
What in the hell are you even talking about? All of us know how it works. The President just does not go locking people up unless his name is traitor, Abraham Lincoln.
We all know that the DOJ has the power to look into the matter and certainly will. That way, if she ever becomes a threat again, its over for her. Besides, the FBI is STILL INVESTIGATING her in case you forgot.
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He did no such thing. Bernie is the purest man we have in all of American politics.
Did you even Wikileak?
Bernie had the power to call out Clinton and her ilk for blatantly cheating, breaking laws, not standing on firm principles, supporting policies TOTALLY Opposite to his own and yet he did nothing.
He took it like the cuck he turned out to be and went and campaigned for someone who threw him under the bus from day one. They LAUGH at Bernie and so they should. They used him and he let it happen. A puppet on a string.
I don't even want to talk about the money he wasted for the "political revolution" that never happened and went directly into the DNC pockets and to Hillarys campaign. What a fraud.
Not only that, did you know that NOT ONE SINGLE politician who Bernie favored or semi-endorsed won any single office. Not one. Also, he abandoned them totally mid-stream. Remember Tim Canova. He was gunning for Debbie Wasserman Shithead seat and had Bernies support for all of five minutes before he failed to do anything to help him win. That was after she resigned and was found cheating him. He essentially endorsed her by default. Did you forget this:
Then, you have Donna Brazile. He said not a single word about her at all. Pathetic. She cheated worse than DWS.
Love this gem, he sold out finally to all that is SJW.
(http://i.imgur.com/VdTCdVm.jpg)
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Did you even Wikileak?
Bernie had the power to call out Clinton and her ilk for blatantly cheating, breaking laws, not standing on firm principles, supporting policies TOTALLY Opposite to his own and yet he did nothing.
He took it like the cuck he turned out to be and went and campaigned for someone who threw him under the bus from day one. They LAUGH at Bernie and so they should. They used him and he let it happen. A puppet on a string.
I don't even want to talk about the money he wasted for the "political revolution" that never happened and went directly into the DNC pockets and to Hillarys campaign. What a fraud.
Not only that, did you know that NOT ONE SINGLE politician who Bernie favored or semi-endorsed won any single office. Not one. Also, he abandoned them totally mid-stream. Remember Tim Canova. He was gunning for Debbie Wasserman Shithead seat and had Bernies support for all of five minutes before he failed to do anything to help him win. That was after she resigned and was found cheating him. He essentially endorsed her by default. Did you forget this:
Then, you have Donna Brazile. He said not a single word about her at all. Pathetic. She cheated worse than DWS.
Love this gem, he sold out finally to all that is SJW.
(http://i.imgur.com/VdTCdVm.jpg)
That's an interesting narrative that you've painted/bought in to. Let's just say agree to disagree.
You're a front runner. You would have stuck with Bernie had he gotten past Hillary. The Donald
has had one hell of a first 60+ days so far.
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That's an interesting narrative that you've painted/bought in to. Let's just say agree to disagree.
You're a front runner. You would have stuck with Bernie had he gotten past Hillary. The Donald
has had one hell of a first 60+ days so far.
Narrative? No. All of that and more actually happened.
Trump has has an incredibly successful 60 days and I love the rapidity that he moves with. The Republicans are not used to this and the Democrats are not at all used to this. They are completely out to lunch barking up some bullshit tree in Siberia that is totally pointless, waste of time.
I gotta say though, the Democrats take the cake when it comes to whining obstructionism. They are worthless, moreso than when the Republicans played that game. They have become nothing but a cancer to government at this point as well as to the American people. Their positions are straight SJW bullshit that do nothing. Its ridiculous what they have become.
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Narrative? No. All of that and more actually happened.
Trump has has an incredibly successful 60 days and I love the rapidity that he moves with. The Republicans are not used to this and the Democrats are not at all used to this. They are completely out to lunch barking up some bullshit tree in Siberia that is totally pointless, waste of time.
I gotta say though, the Democrats take the cake when it comes to whining obstructionism. They are worthless, moreso than when the Republicans played that game. They have become nothing but a cancer to government at this point as well as to the American people. Their positions are straight SJW bullshit that do nothing. Its ridiculous what they have become.
You play this character very well.
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Man! Do you ever shut the fuck up about stuff. SHUT.THE.FUCK. UP. ::)
Aww poor snowflake, do you need a safe space?
Let me remind you of one thing.....DONALD TRUMP - PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!
MAGA bitches!
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You play this character very well.
Unlike you, I am not beholden to one party, nor do I buy into illogical and illegal SJW behavior. "Hand up, Don't Shoot" hahahhahahahahhaha. You probably still believe they were all innocent and should be allowed to assault without consequence.
The Democrats have become unstable and not logical and its giving into BLM, Pro-Palestine bullshit that will continue their downfall. I welcome it.
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Trump has has an incredibly successful 60 days...
I'd hate to see a mediocre 60 days.
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Unlike you, I am not beholden to one party, nor do I buy into illogical and illegal SJW behavior. "Hand up, Don't Shoot" hahahhahahahahhaha. You probably still believe they were all innocent and should be allowed to assault without consequence.
The Democrats have become unstable and not logical and its giving into BLM, Pro-Palestine bullshit that will continue their downfall. I welcome it.
I only wish they were pro-Palestine. You are a socialist, but it unfortunately takes a backseat to your being a racist. Doesn't take SF1900 to help
figure you out.
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He did no such thing. Bernie is the purest man we have in all of American politics.
We you born stupid or did you have to work at it?
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We you born stupid or did you have to work at it?
Did you suck yours dads tits as an infant or your mothers back tits?
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???
How did you not see this coming? There WAS NEVER ANY BROAD SUPPORT for this Shit Ryan plan.
In case you are unaware (which you clearly are) nobody really likes Paul Ryan or his plan, especially Steve Bannon and Donald Trump.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/28/trump-pushes-single-payer-healthcare-tax-increase-on-wealthy/
(http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/09/GettyImages-489713700-e1443324381264-640x480.jpg)
Trump Pushes Single Payer Healthcare, Tax Increase on Wealthy
by John Nolte28 Sep 20152,551
During his “60 Minutes” interview Sunday, Republican presidential front-runner appeared to come out in favor of a form of single payer health insurance for the uninsured (although he does says he’s going to “take care of everybody”) and openly called for raising taxes on the wealthy. [emphasis added]
Donald Trump: Obamacare’s going to be repealed and replaced. Obamacare is a disaster if you look at what’s going on with premiums where they’re up 40, 50, 55 percent.
Scott Pelley: How do you fix it?
Donald Trump: There’s many different ways, by the way. Everybody’s got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, “No, no, the lower 25 percent that can’t afford private. But–”
Scott Pelley: Universal health care.
Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.
Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?
Donald Trump: They’re going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably–
Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?
Donald Trump: —the government’s gonna pay for it. But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.
Trump was equally forthcoming about his plans to raise taxes on the wealthy:
Scott Pelley: Revolution is easy, governing is hard and what I’d like to get to is how you intend to govern the country if you are elected president. What’s your tax plan?
Donald Trump: It’s a substantial reduction for the middle-income people. Because our middle class, Scott, is being absolutely decimated. It will be a corporate also reduction, I think it’ll be a great incentive for corporations.
Scott Pelley: Who are you going to raise taxes on?
Donald Trump: If you look at actually raise, some very wealthy are going to be raised. Some people that are getting unfair deductions are going to be raised. But overall it’s going to be a tremendous incentive to grow the economy and we’re going to take in the same or more money. And I think we’re going to have something that’s going to be spectacular.
Scott Pelley: But Republicans don’t raise taxes.
Donald Trump: Well, we’re not raising taxes.
Scott Pelley: What kind of Republican are you?
Donald Trump: I mean the only, well, I’m a pretty good Republican. But, I will tell you this, I do have some differences. I don’t want to have certain people on Wall Street getting away with paying no tax.
As I wrote two weeks ago, Trump is already running a general election campaign. Rather than pander to the GOP base, he is advertising loudly beforehand that on issues such as taxes, health care, and trade he is not your standard conservative.
Monday morning Trump unveiled some of the details of his tax plan. The seven current tax brackets will be cut to just four: zero percent, ten percent, twenty percent, and twenty-five percent. Business taxes across the board will be lowered to just 15%. The immoral Estate Tax will be fully repealed. The wealthy will lose many loopholes.
Single people who earn less than $25, 000 and married couples who earn less than $50,000 will pay no income tax. This is another proposal that defies in the face of a strongly held conservative belief that all income earners should pay some taxes, even if it is just 1%, in order to have skin in the game.
Overall, Trump is lowering taxes and has agreed to repeal ObamaCare.
Trump's book
In 2000, Trump wrote a book called The America We Deserve, in which he praised universal healthcare systems:
"We must have universal healthcare...I'm a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses...
Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork..
The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans. There are fewer medical lawsuits, less loss of labor to sickness, and lower costs to companies paying for the medical care of their employees. If the program were in place in Massachusetts in 1999 it would have reduced administrative costs by $2.5 million. We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing."
Trump's own Personal View is that we should have single-payer healthcare.
The dumbass Democrats and the dumbass Republicans have done EVERYTHING they can to stop that from happening.
He said in his press conference today that he wants the Democrats help and that its necessary for them to help in a new bill.
I do not think they are up to the task either. We all know Trump and Bernie could get together, craft a plan and nobody would support it because of the control of the Insurance companies have on politicians and the entire system.
Luckily, Trump does have Steve Bannon on his side who is a FIERCE advocate for Single-Payer and a populist solution. I just don't think the Democrats and Republicans are in support of it, even if the people are.
Breitbart has been running tons of articles against Paul Ryan and his shitty plan for a long time and have been ESPECIALLY BRUTAL this past week towards Paul Ryan and his shitty plan. This is how you start to change minds.
Were you not awake when they were crafting Obamacare? Did you not hear Hillary Clinton when she debated Bernie Sanders when single Payer came up?
Let me remind you of the Democrat position as it seems you have forgotten:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-single-payer-health-care-will-never-ever-happen/
Hillary Clinton: Single-payer health care will "never, ever" happen
I don't think that is a priority right now, nor should it be.
I suppose he could suspend the writ of Habeas Corpus for her, like the traitor Abraham Lincoln did but nobody wants that to happen.
I am sure the DOJ will look into what she did if necessary. Lock Her Up is great and I love that it always comes up whenever he name surfaces. We will not forget, ever.
The Democrats are the leading recipients of the Health Insurance Industry. Hillary Clinton got 20 times the amount from them than did Donald Trump.
You are kidding yourself if you think the Democrats want to kick the Insurance companies to the curb. If anyone gets Single Payer to work, it will be someone like Donald Trump or Bernie, moreso Donald Trump because he will not give an inch whereas Bernie has been cucking big league, especially after he sold out to the DNC and to Hillary Clinton. He ruined himself and compromised his principles.
What in the hell are you even talking about? All of us know how it works. The President just does not go locking people up unless his name is traitor, Abraham Lincoln.
We all know that the DOJ has the power to look into the matter and certainly will. That way, if she ever becomes a threat again, its over for her. Besides, the FBI is STILL INVESTIGATING her in case you forgot.
Did you even Wikileak?
Bernie had the power to call out Clinton and her ilk for blatantly cheating, breaking laws, not standing on firm principles, supporting policies TOTALLY Opposite to his own and yet he did nothing.
He took it like the cuck he turned out to be and went and campaigned for someone who threw him under the bus from day one. They LAUGH at Bernie and so they should. They used him and he let it happen. A puppet on a string.
I don't even want to talk about the money he wasted for the "political revolution" that never happened and went directly into the DNC pockets and to Hillarys campaign. What a fraud.
Not only that, did you know that NOT ONE SINGLE politician who Bernie favored or semi-endorsed won any single office. Not one. Also, he abandoned them totally mid-stream. Remember Tim Canova. He was gunning for Debbie Wasserman Shithead seat and had Bernies support for all of five minutes before he failed to do anything to help him win. That was after she resigned and was found cheating him. He essentially endorsed her by default. Did you forget this:
Then, you have Donna Brazile. He said not a single word about her at all. Pathetic. She cheated worse than DWS.
Love this gem, he sold out finally to all that is SJW.
(http://i.imgur.com/VdTCdVm.jpg)
Narrative? No. All of that and more actually happened.
Trump has has an incredibly successful 60 days and I love the rapidity that he moves with. The Republicans are not used to this and the Democrats are not at all used to this. They are completely out to lunch barking up some bullshit tree in Siberia that is totally pointless, waste of time.
I gotta say though, the Democrats take the cake when it comes to whining obstructionism. They are worthless, moreso than when the Republicans played that game. They have become nothing but a cancer to government at this point as well as to the American people. Their positions are straight SJW bullshit that do nothing. Its ridiculous what they have become.
Unlike you, I am not beholden to one party, nor do I buy into illogical and illegal SJW behavior. "Hand up, Don't Shoot" hahahhahahahahhaha. You probably still believe they were all innocent and should be allowed to assault without consequence.
The Democrats have become unstable and not logical and its giving into BLM, Pro-Palestine bullshit that will continue their downfall. I welcome it.
Slow down cupcake! Take a breath, before you work yourself into a tizzy. :D
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This sir...
Is a Adonis meltdown
Mr. Maga.. ;D
Is realising trump promise to the nut huggers was all a empty dream..
First immigration..
Now Obama care..
Epic fail..
Next the wall ;D
We will correct all of this ... ;D
Sure you will...
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This sir...
Is a Adonis meltdown
Mr. Maga.. ;D
Is realising trump promise to the nut huggers was all a empty dream..
First immigration..
Now Obama care..
Epic fail..
Next the wall ;D
We will correct all of this ... ;D
Sure you will...
Today's trivia question -
Who said "You're going to have such a great healthcare at a tiny fraction of the cost and it's going to be so easy"? ::) ::)
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This sir...
Is a Adonis meltdown
Mr. Maga.. ;D
Is realising trump promise to the nut huggers was all a empty dream..
First immigration..
Now Obama care..
Epic fail..
Next the wall ;D
We will correct all of this ... ;D
Sure you will...
Obamacare will be replaced. Do you honestly think its solvent? I am glad Paul Ryan's shit plan did not pass. I was also against Obamacare the entire time. Go back and look at my posts on it 8 years ago. When will people like you learn that Insurance Companies are the problem. It matter not if its Romneycare, Obamacare or Paul Ryan care. As long as Insurance companies are controlling everything, lock, stock and barrel, you will get an unfair system that puts profit over human suffering which in turn is not fiscally responsible or capable of being solvent.
Single Payer, like Winston Churchill created is the true Conservative health system.
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Today's trivia question -
Who said "You're going to have such a great healthcare at a tiny fraction of the cost and it's going to be so easy"? ::) ::)
Trump also realizes Obamacare is a better plan than Paul Ryan care. Two shit sandwiches and one is a little better, but both belong in the toilet. Trump also said during the campaign that Obamacare should be left in place to rot and start from the ground up.
Do you agree with Trump the past 10 years:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7vKaNOW4AAp6JZ.jpg:large)
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Trump also realizes Obamacare is a better plan than Paul Ryan care. Two shit sandwiches and one is a little better, but both belong in the toilet. Trump also said during the campaign that Obamacare should be left in place to rot and start from the ground up.
Do you agree with Trump the past 10 years:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7vKaNOW4AAp6JZ.jpg:large)
If he comes out as POTUS in favor of single payer, I will absolutely vote for him in 2020. Guaranteed.
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Trump also realizes Obamacare is a better plan than Paul Ryan care. Two shit sandwiches and one is a little better, but both belong in the toilet. Trump also said during the campaign that Obamacare should be left in place to rot and start from the ground up.
Do you agree with Trump the past 10 years:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7vKaNOW4AAp6JZ.jpg:large)
He backed the AHCA so he must have been lying...oh never mind, everything he promised was in quotes. ::) ::)
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Did you suck yours dads tits as an infant or your mothers back tits?
Hmmm, humor is not your strong point.
When you get paid for the next blowjob you give, you should buy a joke book.
I'm sorry about your Downs Syndrome, someday they may find a cure
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Hmmm, humor is not your strong point.
When you get paid for the next blowjob you give, you should buy a joke book.
I'm sorry about your Downs Syndrome, someday they may find a cure
Ouch. I've been owned.
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He backed the AHCA so he must have been lying...oh never mind, everything he promised was in quotes. ::) ::)
He didn't back it like you think he did. He simply issued an ultimatum, put up or shut up-vote or move on. He knew the votes were not there and Steve Bannon had been running Anti AHCA on Breitbart and Anti-Paul Ryan front page everyday for a month now. He was with Rand Paul all last week and told the crowd how thankful he was for having Rand's voice out there- easy to read into that and what he meant. (A Paul Ryan GTFO! jab)
Its not the bill or the plan he wanted at all. He wants Democrats to help as he said today. Now is the time for a health plan to really surface. Put politics aside for once and get a plan, like the single payer Trump supported for over a decade.
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Ouch. I've been owned.
Honestly, I'd put most of the blame for that on your parents and what little they gave you to work with.
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Honestly, I'd put most of the blame for that on your parents and what little they gave you to work with.
LOL @ you still trying so hard. PUSSY!
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0/10 You didn't even try to stick the landing. ::)
Be sure to explain where he's wrong genius. I pay a premium you can't afford that tripled because of this fucktard. Despite what the assclown left thinks i.e.: you) its not a right and to the lazy that benefit from Obamacare, you're welcome for me picking up your slack. Jesus Christ, for a supposed "doctor" you're as clueless as Box of rocks.
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I think the relevancy of this story is being vastly overstated. If you read between the lines, the real loser here is Paul Ryan, not Donald Trump.
If the republicans were a little bit smarter they would've gutted the entire bill and made some simple revisions. Thrown grandma and grandpa off a cliff, eliminate all subsidies, eliminate coverage for pre-existing conditions and remove coverage for all illegal cucarachas and their children. I mean really go nuts. No repeal and replace. Just repeal the fucking thing so the few can suffer in favor of the many. The freedom caucus does summer salts, Ryan pats himself on the back for his phony leadership, Trump takes all the negotiating credit...No libtard LBGBT homo wet back spic queer snowflake or their constituents would vote for it anyway. Pack the bill with overt the top GOP talking points. Get it passed and then drop it in the Senate where it goes to die.
Message to Paul Ryan: Nobody is listening to you anymore
This loss w orchestrated behind the scene
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Be sure to explain where he's wrong genius. I pay a premium you can't afford that tripled because of this fucktard. Despite what the assclown left thinks i.e.: you) its not a right and to the lazy that benefit from Obamacare, you're welcome for me picking up your slack. Jesus Christ, for a supposed "doctor" you're as clueless as Box of rocks.
Maybe you pay a hefty premium because you are a short, fat fuck? Just something to consider.
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Trump has failed to consolidate power.
He needs to oust the troublemakers from his party.
Two of his biggest initiatives scrapped so soon; the muzzie ban and health care make over.
Needs to start laying foundations for that wall now if he wants to save himself.
He has great vision and determination but maybe he has been caught by surprise of what the game is like at that level.
mass243
senior political analist
It was like that from beginning..dems and reps against him before he became prez
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Be sure to explain where he's wrong genius. I pay a premium you can't afford that tripled because of this fucktard. Despite what the assclown left thinks i.e.: you) its not a right and to the lazy that benefit from Obamacare, you're welcome for me picking up your slack. Jesus Christ, for a supposed "doctor" you're as clueless as Box of rocks.
It's called a risk pool for a reason. Like all the years you were a coke head - the responsible dues-paying member-of-society. ::)
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Poor Donald!
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This was all Ryan's undoing.
He's going to get sacked.
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This bill wouldn't have gotten 60 votes in the Senate (even with minor changes). I don't know what the hoopla is about...
this is a good thing. we still have a chance to get it right.
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This bill wouldn't have gotten 60 votes in the Senate (even with minor changes). I don't know what the hoopla is about...
this is a good thing. we still have a chance to get it right.
"We were a 10-year opposition party, where being against things was easy to do," said House Speaker Paul Ryan, faced with the biggest loss of his career. "And now in three months' time we tried to go to a governing party. We will get there, but we weren't there today."
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Be sure to explain where he's wrong genius. I pay a premium you can't afford that tripled because of this fucktard. Despite what the assclown left thinks i.e.: you) its not a right and to the lazy that benefit from Obamacare, you're welcome for me picking up your slack. Jesus Christ, for a supposed "doctor" you're as clueless as Box of rocks.
If you think your premium went up because of Obama and not because of corporate greed and because insurance companies chose to stick the consumer... well then you must be a special kind of stupid. Oh wait.... you are. Seriously, is this level of stupidity natural for you or did you have to work hard to achieve it?
The good news is that Obamacare covers that ass burn you and TA are experiencing right now. Pretty sure you can claim it is a pre existing condition since you have been suffering from it for the past eight years.
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If you think your premium went up because of Obama and not because of corporate greed and because insurance companies chose to stick the consumer...
As a consumer, I really could care less of a shit who or what caused the increase in premiums.
What does IRK the shit out of me is that the asshole son of a fucking bitch sold us Obamacare by ensuring the public that premiums were not going to go up (meaning that the middle class was going to pick up the tab).
Well, he lied.
(http://6544-presscdn-0-22.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Obama.jpg)
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"We were a 10-year opposition party, where being against things was easy to do," said House Speaker Paul Ryan, faced with the biggest loss of his career. "And now in three months' time we tried to go to a governing party. We will get there, but we weren't there today."
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Was there a single Trump supporter on this board that was wanting this bill to pass?
Am I missing something?
We are cheering along with you that this didn't pass... we (as Americans) still have a chance to get this right.
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Be sure to explain where he's wrong genius. I pay a premium you can't afford that tripled because of this fucktard. Despite what the assclown left thinks i.e.: you) its not a right and to the lazy that benefit from Obamacare, you're welcome for me picking up your slack. Jesus Christ, for a supposed "doctor" you're as clueless as Box of rocks.
Your not picking up anybody's premiums towel boy. Get over to the fat shaming thread where you belong.
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Was there a single Trump supporter on this board that was wanting this bill to pass?
Am I missing something?
We are cheering along with you that this didn't pass... we (as Americans) still have a chance to get this right.
Geez, gimmick. I guess I misread all those race/hate/dem posts you make. ::)
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Geez, gimmick. I guess I misread all those race/hate/dem posts you make. ::)
Glad to see you LOVE your job on your little democrat plantation.
We want Obamacare repealed, but NONE of us were cheering for this bill, or let down when it didn't pass.
maybe you can prove me wrong
pro tip: you can't
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Glad to see you LOVE your job on your little democrat plantation.
We want Obamacare repealed, but NONE of us were cheering for this bill, or let down when it didn't pass.
maybe you can prove me wrong
pro tip: you can't
::)
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There is a reason this bill looks exactly like Obamacare, just a different name:
(https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2017/02/lobbying-1-research.jpg)
Politicians do not write laws. Paul Ryan, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell and Chuck Schumer do not sit in their offices writing out scripts of laws and legislation; no politician does. Politicians are the faces who sell legislation that unseen hands create. The Big Club are the hands that create the legislation.
Indeed, it makes much more sense to focus the attention on the unseen hands that are never discussed – These are the roots of the issues, the politicians are merely the expendable and interchangeable sales force.
Great Read: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/24/to-remove-obamacare-we-must-first-remove-the-uniparty-big-club/ (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/02/24/to-remove-obamacare-we-must-first-remove-the-uniparty-big-club/)
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Politically it's the smart move by Trump.
Move on to tax reform, get that bill signed and functioning before the midterms and let Obamacare fall on its own over the next 2 years.
Gain 8 to 12 seats in the Senate, maintain control of the House and start over again in '19
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Conservative Review editor Michelle Malkin said that Speaker Paul Ryan's (R-Wis.) should not have effectively given himself an "A for effort" in the wake of his ObamaCare replacement vote failure.
On Friday, Ryan said the House "came really close" to replacing ObamaCare, adding that he was proud of his caucus' work.
Malkin addressed Ryan, warning him not to "break your arm patting yourself on the back."
"That's not covered under ObamaCare or RINOcare," she said on "Fox & Friends".
She said that she is one of millions of people who have been harmed by Obamacare and that Ryan's "faux-peal" would not have made a difference.
Malkin said Ryan's remarks showed he wanted an 'A' for effort, but because conservatives are "measured by results and not rhetoric," he deserves a "big fat F."
Conservatives judge themselves on how well they can reduce the scope of government, Malkin said.
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The Michelle Malkin who wrote a book arguing that WWII Asian internment was a good idea!? You are a farking idiot. You make Coach look scholarly. ::)
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The Michelle Malkin who wrote a book arguing that WWII Asian internment was a good idea!? You are a farking idiot. You make Coach look scholarly. ::)
That's a low blow right there!
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The Michelle Malkin who wrote a book arguing that WWII Asian internment was a good idea!? You are a farking idiot. You make Coach look scholarly. ::)
"Kumbaya" is not a foreign strategy in times of war.
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"Kumbaya" is not a foreign strategy in times of war.
War is a thinking man's game. You are cannon fodder, not the the field commander you think you are. ::)
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War is a thinking man's game. You are cannon fodder, not the the field commander you think you are. ::)
OK.
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Poor Donald!
;D
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If you think your premium went up because of Obama and not because of corporate greed and because insurance companies chose to stick the consumer... well then you must be a special kind of stupid. Oh wait.... you are. Seriously, is this level of stupidity natural for you or did you have to work hard to achieve it?
The good news is that Obamacare covers that ass burn you and TA are experiencing right now. Pretty sure you can claim it is a pre existing condition since you have been suffering from it for the past eight years.
;D
Ouch
;D
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Was there a single Trump supporter on this board that was wanting this bill to pass?
Am I missing something?
We are cheering along with you that this didn't pass... we (as Americans) still have a chance to get this right.
Well it's time to move on ;D
A lot broken heart's in this thread...
You heard the Donald.. quote: it's time to move on..
The nut huggers need to stop with will get it right next time .. stop the back peddling...
Paul Ryan .. quote: Obama care is the law of the land..
;D
Teh Donald trademark...quote..
Believe me when I say we will get it done ...
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/politics/donald-trump-health-care-blame/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/politics/donald-trump-health-care-blame/index.html)
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>Do you support Donald Trump vs The Fake News
>Hes alright I guess
>His early work was a bit too new wave for me, but when he announced he was building a wall, he really came into his own politically and personally. The whole speech has a clear crisp sound that really gives it a big boost. Hes been compared to Andrew Jackson, but I think Trump has a more bitter Nixonian sense of humor.
>Hey Dobbs why do you have copies of the New York Times everywhere? Do you read fake news?
>No Ryan
>Is that a raincoat
>Yes it is
>Trump released his Make America Great Again slogan, his undisputed master slogan. A slogan so catchy, many people don't think about what it means. But they should because its not just about the movement, its a personal statement about Trump himself.
>Hey Paul
>TRY GETTING YOUR BETTER WAY AGENDA PASSED NOW YOU STUPID FUCKING BASTARD
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Holy shit.. can I just get my old freakin' healthcare plan back?
You know the same one I had for 25 years and I was told I could keep?
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Holy shit.. can I just get my old freakin' healthcare plan back?
You know the same one I had for 25 years and I was told I could keep?
Agreed. Ten years ago, my employer provided healthcare plan was incredible. I had no monthly premium, low co pays, low co insurance, and low out of pocket max. Since Bahamacare, I now pay a monthly premium, my co pays and out of pocket max have doubled, and my co insurance has gone up by 20%.
Thanks Obama! :(
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LOL @ you still trying so hard. PUSSY!
Yep, sure sign of a twink who takes it in the pooper from other snowflakes
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I'm not a lardass pig. I do not need to see a doctor every 5 minutes. Food is my medicine.
This cop out answer doesn't address a big issue with Canadian healthcare that I just mentioned.
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Glad to see you LOVE your job on your little democrat plantation.
We want Obamacare repealed, but NONE of us were cheering for this bill, or let down when it didn't pass.
maybe you can prove me wrong
pro tip: you can't
Really? If the bill is "shit" like you claim, then why is Trump trying so hard to push it through?
Why would your idol want to stick everyone with something that is "shit"? Why would you support someone that wants to hand people "shit"?
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Really? If the bill is "shit" like you claim, then why is Trump trying so hard to push it through?
Why would your idol want to stick everyone with something that is "shit"? Why would you support someone that wants to hand people "shit"?
I may support Trump, but I don't blindly support Trump.
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Really? If the bill is "shit" like you claim, then why is Trump trying so hard to push it through?
Why would your idol want to stick everyone with something that is "shit"? Why would you support someone that wants to hand people "shit"?
TA gave a good summation of a possibility:
He didn't back it like you think he did. He simply issued an ultimatum, put up or shut up-vote or move on. He knew the votes were not there and Steve Bannon had been running Anti AHCA on Breitbart and Anti-Paul Ryan front page everyday for a month now. He was with Rand Paul all last week and told the crowd how thankful he was for having Rand's voice out there- easy to read into that and what he meant. (A Paul Ryan GTFO! jab)
Its not the bill or the plan he wanted at all. He wants Democrats to help as he said today. Now is the time for a health plan to really surface. Put politics aside for once and get a plan, like the single payer Trump supported for over a decade.
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I may support Trump, but I don't blindly support Trump.
What the fuck is that mewling nonsense. Farking moron. ::)
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can you explain this please?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5N9-KCWMAEqKVm.jpg)
(http://obamacarefacts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/single-payer-vs-obamacare.png)
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If you think your premium went up because of Obama and not because of corporate greed and because insurance companies chose to stick the consumer... well then you must be a special kind of stupid. Oh wait.... you are. Seriously, is this level of stupidity natural for you or did you have to work hard to achieve it?
The good news is that Obamacare covers that ass burn you and TA are experiencing right now. Pretty sure you can claim it is a pre existing condition since you have been suffering from it for the past eight years.
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Obamacare and Paul Ryan Care are both shit sandwiches. I don't want either and am glad it did not pass.
Trump supported single payer for over a decade as it is the most fiscally Conservative and by far the best way of going about fixing the health system. Its too bad the majority of Democracts and the majority of Republicans as well are too stupid to understand mathematics.
It should be simple.
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The Michelle Malkin who wrote a book arguing that WWII Asian internment was a good idea!? You are a farking idiot. You make Coach look scholarly. ::)
I don't think it was a bad idea. FDR had the right intention with it given Pearl Harbor and Japanese Culture at the time. They were far from POW camps.
The traitor Abraham Lincoln sure did a lot worse.
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Obamacare and Paul Ryan Care are both shit sandwiches. I don't want either and am glad it did not pass.
Trump supported single payer for over a decade as it is the most fiscally Conservative and by far the best way of going about fixing the health system. Its too bad the majority of Democracts and the majority of Republicans as well are too stupid to understand mathematics.
It should be simple.
Has nothing to do with democrats. Republicans are in control. The party of no have no plan.
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Has nothing to do with democrats. Republicans are in control. The party of no have no plan.
Both are at fault, Big League. The best the Democrats could come up with is giving Insurance Companies all of the power still which was a Republican plan essentially as it mirrored Bob Dole's Plan and what Romney did in Massachusetts. Why does it keep failing no matter what? Because Insurance companies, the middle men, are left in tact to do as they will.
If Single Payer cannot be established at the Federal Level (No reason why it couldn't since its the most fiscally responsible health system and is doable) then at the least, whatever new health bill comes should have a provision for states to run their own Single Payer systems if the citizens want it. Then let the Insurance companies compete with the Single Payer plan. Let the morons who want to throw money in the toilet to Private Insurers-middlemen if they want, but don't deny the Single Payer system to those who want it as well.
Should be simple.
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I have great health insurance personally, yet I have not been to the doctor since accidentally getting shot in 2003 which was an ER visit that totaled 300 dollars.
So all of that money has been thrown down the drain for nothing. Tons of waste.
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Has nothing to do with democrats. Republicans are in control. The party of no have no plan.
Like it or not we're in three party system two of which are almost one in same. The Dem/Communists and the Republicans. The third being Conservatives. It was the Conservatives that wanted the true repeal and replace. Although anything (including the failed bill that I'm glad failed) was still better than the shit show of Obamacare. At least the repealing of the mandate was in there.
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It's called a risk pool for a reason. Like all the years you were a coke head - the responsible dues-paying member-of-society. ::)
Weak (as usual) I was clean loooooong before my son was born so blow me. The only time my rates went up with any significance is when "Obamacare" came into effect and almost immediately tripled along with our deductible. You're Canadian why are you even chiming in. Go blow your sissy prime minister.
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Paul Ryan had 7 years to prepare a plan to replace Obamacare.
That was his best shot, and he failed. Piece of shit needs to step down.
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I have great health insurance personally, yet I have not been to the doctor since accidentally getting shot in 2003
This deserves a longer explanation.
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You seem to have lots of time to sit there all day and post this nonsense.
Are you on someone's payroll?
-Seems like the words of a sore loser.
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lmfao, lots of idiots in this thread.
He is letting Obamacare fail. The plan was quickly made to provide a back-up for the failing ACA. He should have done nothing to begin with and let it fail in the public in the first place then replace it.
They are going to sabotage Obama's legacy by letting it fail, which is more devastating to those who rely on it.
Where did you hear this? Me thinks it was Trump.
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My God that is a massive step up from Chelsea Clinton.
What's her looks have to do with this? I guess if you don't have a brain, you're stuck thinking with your penis.
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Trump doesn't do anything without a plan.
And right in the middle of the Dem gloating tomorrow he will release the illegal Obama administration surveillance activity proof.
Dreamer.
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Dreamer.
Pedophile.
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Like it or not we're in three party system two of which are almost one in same. The Dem/Communists and the Republicans. The third being Conservatives. It was the Conservatives that wanted the true repeal and replace. Although anything (including the failed bill that I'm glad failed) was still better than the shit show of Obamacare. At least the repealing of the mandate was in there.
To my point...
http://www.dailywire.com/news/14785/ahca-died-because-some-republicans-still-have-frank-camp?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=102516-podcast&utm_campaign=beingconservative