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The Democrats are the leading recipients of the Health Insurance Industry.  Hillary Clinton got 20 times the amount from them than did Donald Trump.

You are kidding yourself if you think the Democrats want to kick the Insurance companies to the curb.  If anyone gets Single Payer to work, it will be someone like Donald Trump or Bernie, moreso Donald Trump because he will not give an inch whereas Bernie has been cucking big league, especially after he sold out to the DNC and to Hillary Clinton.  He ruined himself and compromised his principles.

He did no such thing.  Bernie is the purest man we have in all of American politics.  

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Re: Trumpcare just got pulled!!!! Obamacare stays!!!!
« Reply #101 on: March 24, 2017, 07:18:41 PM »
Dummy forgot about the Constitution to fire up his retards? So many ate that shit up, though.

Say it ain't so.
What in the hell are you even talking about?  All of us know how it works.  The President just does not go locking people up unless his name is traitor, Abraham Lincoln.

We all know that the DOJ has the power to look into the matter and certainly will.  That way, if she ever becomes a threat again, its over for her.  Besides, the FBI is STILL INVESTIGATING her in case you forgot.

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He did no such thing.  Bernie is the purest man we have in all of American politics.  
Did you even Wikileak?

Bernie had the power to call out Clinton and her ilk for blatantly cheating, breaking laws, not standing on firm principles, supporting policies TOTALLY Opposite to his own and yet he did nothing.

He took it like the cuck he turned out to be and went and campaigned for someone who threw him under the bus from day one.  They LAUGH at Bernie and so they should.  They used him and he let it happen.  A puppet on a string.

I don't even want to talk about the money he wasted for the "political revolution" that never happened and went directly into the DNC pockets and to Hillarys campaign.  What a fraud.

Not only that, did you know that NOT ONE SINGLE politician who Bernie favored or semi-endorsed won any single office.  Not one.  Also, he abandoned them totally mid-stream.  Remember Tim Canova.  He was gunning for Debbie Wasserman Shithead seat and had Bernies support for all of five minutes before he failed to do anything to help him win.  That was after she resigned and was found cheating him.  He essentially endorsed her by default.  Did you forget this: 



Then, you have Donna Brazile.  He said not a single word about her at all.  Pathetic.  She cheated worse than DWS. 

Love this gem, he sold out finally to all that is SJW.


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Did you even Wikileak?

Bernie had the power to call out Clinton and her ilk for blatantly cheating, breaking laws, not standing on firm principles, supporting policies TOTALLY Opposite to his own and yet he did nothing.

He took it like the cuck he turned out to be and went and campaigned for someone who threw him under the bus from day one.  They LAUGH at Bernie and so they should.  They used him and he let it happen.  A puppet on a string.

I don't even want to talk about the money he wasted for the "political revolution" that never happened and went directly into the DNC pockets and to Hillarys campaign.  What a fraud.

Not only that, did you know that NOT ONE SINGLE politician who Bernie favored or semi-endorsed won any single office.  Not one.  Also, he abandoned them totally mid-stream.  Remember Tim Canova.  He was gunning for Debbie Wasserman Shithead seat and had Bernies support for all of five minutes before he failed to do anything to help him win.  That was after she resigned and was found cheating him.  He essentially endorsed her by default.  Did you forget this: 



Then, you have Donna Brazile.  He said not a single word about her at all.  Pathetic.  She cheated worse than DWS. 

Love this gem, he sold out finally to all that is SJW.



That's an interesting narrative that you've painted/bought in to.  Let's just say agree to disagree. 
You're a front runner.  You would have stuck with Bernie had he gotten past Hillary.  The Donald
has had one hell of a first 60+ days so far. 

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That's an interesting narrative that you've painted/bought in to.  Let's just say agree to disagree. 
You're a front runner.  You would have stuck with Bernie had he gotten past Hillary.  The Donald
has had one hell of a first 60+ days so far. 
Narrative?  No.  All of that and more actually happened.

Trump has has an incredibly successful 60 days and I love the rapidity that he moves with.  The Republicans are not used to this and the Democrats are not at all used to this.  They are completely out to lunch barking up some bullshit tree in Siberia that is totally pointless, waste of time.

I gotta say though, the Democrats take the cake when it comes to whining obstructionism.  They are worthless, moreso than when the Republicans played that game.  They have become nothing but a cancer to government at this point as well as to the American people.  Their positions are straight SJW bullshit that do nothing.  Its ridiculous what they have become.

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Narrative?  No.  All of that and more actually happened.

Trump has has an incredibly successful 60 days and I love the rapidity that he moves with.  The Republicans are not used to this and the Democrats are not at all used to this.  They are completely out to lunch barking up some bullshit tree in Siberia that is totally pointless, waste of time.

I gotta say though, the Democrats take the cake when it comes to whining obstructionism.  They are worthless, moreso than when the Republicans played that game.  They have become nothing but a cancer to government at this point as well as to the American people.  Their positions are straight SJW bullshit that do nothing.  Its ridiculous what they have become.

You play this character very well.

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Re: Trumpcare just got pulled!!!! Obamacare stays!!!!
« Reply #106 on: March 24, 2017, 07:56:44 PM »
Man! Do you ever shut the fuck up about stuff. SHUT.THE.FUCK. UP.   ::)

Aww poor snowflake, do you need a safe space?

Let me remind you of one thing.....DONALD TRUMP - PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

MAGA bitches!

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You play this character very well.
Unlike you, I am not beholden to one party, nor do I buy into illogical and illegal SJW behavior.  "Hand up, Don't Shoot" hahahhahahahahhaha.  You probably still believe they were all innocent and should be allowed to assault without consequence.

The Democrats have become unstable and not logical and its giving into BLM, Pro-Palestine bullshit that will continue their downfall.  I welcome it.

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Trump has has an incredibly successful 60 days...

I'd hate to see a mediocre 60 days.

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Unlike you, I am not beholden to one party, nor do I buy into illogical and illegal SJW behavior.  "Hand up, Don't Shoot" hahahhahahahahhaha.  You probably still believe they were all innocent and should be allowed to assault without consequence.

The Democrats have become unstable and not logical and its giving into BLM, Pro-Palestine bullshit that will continue their downfall.  I welcome it.

I only wish they were pro-Palestine.  You are a socialist, but it unfortunately takes a backseat to your being a racist.  Doesn't take SF1900 to help
figure you out. 

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He did no such thing.  Bernie is the purest man we have in all of American politics.  

We you born stupid or did you have to work at it?

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We you born stupid or did you have to work at it?

Did you suck yours dads tits as an infant or your mothers back tits?

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Re: Trumpcare just got pulled!!!! Obamacare stays!!!!
« Reply #112 on: March 24, 2017, 08:49:36 PM »
???

How did you not see this coming?  There WAS NEVER ANY BROAD SUPPORT for this Shit Ryan plan.

In case you are unaware (which you clearly are) nobody really likes Paul Ryan or his plan, especially Steve Bannon and Donald Trump.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/28/trump-pushes-single-payer-healthcare-tax-increase-on-wealthy/




Trump Pushes Single Payer Healthcare, Tax Increase on Wealthy

by John Nolte28 Sep 20152,551



During his “60 Minutes” interview Sunday, Republican presidential front-runner appeared to come out in favor of a form of single payer health insurance for the uninsured (although he does says he’s going to “take care of everybody”) and openly called for raising taxes on the wealthy. [emphasis added]

    Donald Trump: Obamacare’s going to be repealed and replaced. Obamacare is a disaster if you look at what’s going on with premiums where they’re up 40, 50, 55 percent.

    Scott Pelley: How do you fix it?

    Donald Trump: There’s many different ways, by the way. Everybody’s got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, “No, no, the lower 25 percent that can’t afford private. But–”

    Scott Pelley: Universal health care.

    Donald Trump: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.

    Scott Pelley: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?

    Donald Trump: They’re going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably–

    Scott Pelley: Make a deal? Who pays for it?

    Donald Trump: —the government’s gonna pay for it. But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.

Trump was equally forthcoming about his plans to raise taxes on the wealthy:

    Scott Pelley: Revolution is easy, governing is hard and what I’d like to get to is how you intend to govern the country if you are elected president. What’s your tax plan?

    Donald Trump: It’s a substantial reduction for the middle-income people. Because our middle class, Scott, is being absolutely decimated. It will be a corporate also reduction, I think it’ll be a great incentive for corporations.

    Scott Pelley: Who are you going to raise taxes on?

    Donald Trump: If you look at actually raise, some very wealthy are going to be raised. Some people that are getting unfair deductions are going to be raised. But overall it’s going to be a tremendous incentive to grow the economy and we’re going to take in the same or more money. And I think we’re going to have something that’s going to be spectacular.

    Scott Pelley: But Republicans don’t raise taxes.

    Donald Trump: Well, we’re not raising taxes.

    Scott Pelley: What kind of Republican are you?

    Donald Trump: I mean the only, well, I’m a pretty good Republican. But, I will tell you this, I do have some differences. I don’t want to have certain people on Wall Street getting away with paying no tax.

As I wrote two weeks ago, Trump is already running a general election campaign. Rather than pander to the GOP base, he is advertising loudly beforehand that on issues such as taxes, health care, and trade  he is not your standard conservative.

Monday morning Trump unveiled some of the details of his tax plan. The seven current tax brackets will be cut to just four: zero percent, ten percent, twenty percent, and twenty-five percent. Business taxes across the board will be lowered to just 15%. The immoral Estate Tax will be fully repealed. The wealthy will lose many loopholes.

Single people who earn less than $25, 000 and married couples who earn less than $50,000 will pay no income tax. This is another proposal that defies in the face of a strongly held conservative belief that all income earners should pay some taxes, even if it is just 1%, in order to have skin in the game.

Overall, Trump is lowering taxes and has agreed to repeal ObamaCare.

 




Trump's book

In 2000, Trump wrote a book called The America We Deserve, in which he praised universal healthcare systems:

    "We must have universal healthcare...I'm a conservative on most issues but a liberal on this one. We should not hear so many stories of families ruined by healthcare expenses...

    Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork..

    The Canadian plan also helps Canadians live longer and healthier than Americans. There are fewer medical lawsuits, less loss of labor to sickness, and lower costs to companies paying for the medical care of their employees. If the program were in place in Massachusetts in 1999 it would have reduced administrative costs by $2.5 million. We need, as a nation, to reexamine the single-payer plan, as many individual states are doing."
Trump's own Personal View is that we should have single-payer healthcare. 

The dumbass Democrats and the dumbass Republicans have done EVERYTHING they can to stop that from happening. 
He said in his press conference today that he wants the Democrats help and that its necessary for them to help in a new bill.

I do not think they are up to the task either.  We all know Trump and Bernie could get together, craft a plan and nobody would support it because of the control of the Insurance companies have on politicians and the entire system.

Luckily, Trump does have Steve Bannon on his side who is a FIERCE advocate for Single-Payer and a populist solution.  I just don't think the Democrats and Republicans are in support of it, even if the people are.

Breitbart has been running tons of articles against Paul Ryan and his shitty plan for a long time and have been ESPECIALLY BRUTAL this past week towards Paul Ryan and his shitty plan.  This is how you start to change minds.
Were you not awake when they were crafting Obamacare?  Did you not hear Hillary Clinton when she debated Bernie Sanders when single Payer came up? 

Let me remind you of the Democrat position as it seems you have forgotten:


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-single-payer-health-care-will-never-ever-happen/

Hillary Clinton: Single-payer health care will "never, ever" happen


I don't think that is a priority right now, nor should it be. 
  I suppose he could suspend the writ of Habeas Corpus for her, like the traitor Abraham Lincoln did but nobody wants that to happen.

I am sure the DOJ will look into what she did if necessary.  Lock Her Up is great and I love that it always comes up whenever he name surfaces.  We will not forget, ever.
The Democrats are the leading recipients of the Health Insurance Industry.  Hillary Clinton got 20 times the amount from them than did Donald Trump.

You are kidding yourself if you think the Democrats want to kick the Insurance companies to the curb.  If anyone gets Single Payer to work, it will be someone like Donald Trump or Bernie, moreso Donald Trump because he will not give an inch whereas Bernie has been cucking big league, especially after he sold out to the DNC and to Hillary Clinton.  He ruined himself and compromised his principles.
What in the hell are you even talking about?  All of us know how it works.  The President just does not go locking people up unless his name is traitor, Abraham Lincoln.

We all know that the DOJ has the power to look into the matter and certainly will.  That way, if she ever becomes a threat again, its over for her.  Besides, the FBI is STILL INVESTIGATING her in case you forgot.
Did you even Wikileak?

Bernie had the power to call out Clinton and her ilk for blatantly cheating, breaking laws, not standing on firm principles, supporting policies TOTALLY Opposite to his own and yet he did nothing.

He took it like the cuck he turned out to be and went and campaigned for someone who threw him under the bus from day one.  They LAUGH at Bernie and so they should.  They used him and he let it happen.  A puppet on a string.

I don't even want to talk about the money he wasted for the "political revolution" that never happened and went directly into the DNC pockets and to Hillarys campaign.  What a fraud.

Not only that, did you know that NOT ONE SINGLE politician who Bernie favored or semi-endorsed won any single office.  Not one.  Also, he abandoned them totally mid-stream.  Remember Tim Canova.  He was gunning for Debbie Wasserman Shithead seat and had Bernies support for all of five minutes before he failed to do anything to help him win.  That was after she resigned and was found cheating him.  He essentially endorsed her by default.  Did you forget this: 



Then, you have Donna Brazile.  He said not a single word about her at all.  Pathetic.  She cheated worse than DWS. 

Love this gem, he sold out finally to all that is SJW.


Narrative?  No.  All of that and more actually happened.

Trump has has an incredibly successful 60 days and I love the rapidity that he moves with.  The Republicans are not used to this and the Democrats are not at all used to this.  They are completely out to lunch barking up some bullshit tree in Siberia that is totally pointless, waste of time.

I gotta say though, the Democrats take the cake when it comes to whining obstructionism.  They are worthless, moreso than when the Republicans played that game.  They have become nothing but a cancer to government at this point as well as to the American people.  Their positions are straight SJW bullshit that do nothing.  Its ridiculous what they have become.
Unlike you, I am not beholden to one party, nor do I buy into illogical and illegal SJW behavior.  "Hand up, Don't Shoot" hahahhahahahahhaha.  You probably still believe they were all innocent and should be allowed to assault without consequence.

The Democrats have become unstable and not logical and its giving into BLM, Pro-Palestine bullshit that will continue their downfall.  I welcome it.



Slow down cupcake!  Take a breath, before you work yourself into a tizzy.   :D

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Re: Trumpcare just got pulled!!!! Obamacare stays!!!!
« Reply #113 on: March 24, 2017, 09:25:16 PM »
This sir...
Is a Adonis meltdown
Mr. Maga..  ;D
Is realising trump promise to the nut huggers was all a empty dream..
First immigration..
Now Obama care..
Epic fail..
Next the wall  ;D
We will correct all of this ...  ;D
Sure you will...

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Re: Trumpcare just got pulled!!!! Obamacare stays!!!!
« Reply #114 on: March 24, 2017, 09:31:31 PM »
This sir...
Is a Adonis meltdown
Mr. Maga..  ;D
Is realising trump promise to the nut huggers was all a empty dream..
First immigration..
Now Obama care..
Epic fail..
Next the wall  ;D
We will correct all of this ...  ;D
Sure you will...

Today's trivia question -

Who said "You're going to have such a great healthcare at a tiny fraction of the cost and it's going to be so easy"? ::) ::)

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Re: Trumpcare just got pulled!!!! Obamacare stays!!!!
« Reply #115 on: March 24, 2017, 09:33:19 PM »
This sir...
Is a Adonis meltdown
Mr. Maga..  ;D
Is realising trump promise to the nut huggers was all a empty dream..
First immigration..
Now Obama care..
Epic fail..
Next the wall  ;D
We will correct all of this ...  ;D
Sure you will...
Obamacare will be replaced.  Do you honestly think its solvent?  I am glad Paul Ryan's shit plan did not pass.  I was also against Obamacare the entire time.  Go back and look at my posts on it 8 years ago.  When will people like you learn that Insurance Companies are the problem.  It matter not if its Romneycare, Obamacare or Paul Ryan care.  As long as Insurance companies are controlling everything, lock, stock and barrel, you will get an unfair system that puts profit over human suffering which in turn is not fiscally responsible or capable of being solvent.

Single Payer, like Winston Churchill created is the true Conservative health system.

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Re: Trumpcare just got pulled!!!! Obamacare stays!!!!
« Reply #116 on: March 24, 2017, 09:36:32 PM »
Today's trivia question -

Who said "You're going to have such a great healthcare at a tiny fraction of the cost and it's going to be so easy"? ::) ::)
Trump also realizes Obamacare is a better plan than Paul Ryan care.  Two shit sandwiches and one is a little better, but both belong in the toilet.  Trump also said during the campaign that Obamacare should be left in place to rot and start from the ground up. 

Do you agree with Trump the past 10 years:


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Re: Trumpcare just got pulled!!!! Obamacare stays!!!!
« Reply #117 on: March 24, 2017, 09:45:47 PM »
Trump also realizes Obamacare is a better plan than Paul Ryan care.  Two shit sandwiches and one is a little better, but both belong in the toilet.  Trump also said during the campaign that Obamacare should be left in place to rot and start from the ground up. 

Do you agree with Trump the past 10 years:



If he comes out as POTUS in favor of single payer, I will absolutely vote for him in 2020.  Guaranteed.

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Re: Trumpcare just got pulled!!!! Obamacare stays!!!!
« Reply #118 on: March 24, 2017, 09:51:05 PM »
Trump also realizes Obamacare is a better plan than Paul Ryan care.  Two shit sandwiches and one is a little better, but both belong in the toilet.  Trump also said during the campaign that Obamacare should be left in place to rot and start from the ground up.  

Do you agree with Trump the past 10 years:



He backed the AHCA so he must have been lying...oh never mind, everything he promised was in quotes. ::) ::)

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Did you suck yours dads tits as an infant or your mothers back tits?

Hmmm, humor is not your strong point.

When you get paid for the next blowjob you give, you should buy a joke book.

I'm sorry about your Downs Syndrome, someday they may find a cure

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Hmmm, humor is not your strong point.

When you get paid for the next blowjob you give, you should buy a joke book.

I'm sorry about your Downs Syndrome, someday they may find a cure

Ouch.  I've been owned. 

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Re: Trumpcare just got pulled!!!! Obamacare stays!!!!
« Reply #121 on: March 24, 2017, 09:58:12 PM »
He backed the AHCA so he must have been lying...oh never mind, everything he promised was in quotes. ::) ::)
He didn't back it like you think he did.  He simply issued an ultimatum, put up or shut up-vote or move on.  He knew the votes were not there and Steve Bannon had been running Anti AHCA on Breitbart and Anti-Paul Ryan front page everyday for a month now.  He was with Rand Paul all last week and told the crowd how thankful he was for having Rand's voice out there- easy to read into that and what he meant. (A Paul Ryan GTFO! jab)

Its not the bill or the plan he wanted at all.  He wants Democrats to help as he said today.  Now is the time for a health plan to really surface.  Put politics aside for once and get a plan, like the single payer Trump supported for over a decade.


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Ouch.  I've been owned. 

Honestly, I'd put most of the blame for that on your parents and what little they gave you to work with.

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Honestly, I'd put most of the blame for that on your parents and what little they gave you to work with.

LOL @ you still trying so hard.  PUSSY!

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Re: Trumpcare just got pulled!!!! Obamacare stays!!!!
« Reply #124 on: March 24, 2017, 11:17:09 PM »
0/10   You didn't even try to stick the landing.  ::)

Be sure to explain where he's wrong genius. I pay a premium you can't afford that tripled because of this fucktard. Despite what the assclown left thinks i.e.: you) its not a right and to the lazy that benefit from Obamacare, you're welcome for me picking up your slack. Jesus Christ, for a supposed "doctor" you're as clueless as Box of rocks.