No your wrong if i believe in something and i think it's fair i always keep my word.I cant help it if the other pro are to scared to stand up for themselves.Shit they all bitch and yet do nothing.
RJ is next ;)SWEET! rusty jeffers is my favorite
No your wrong if i believe in something and i think it's fair i always keep my word.I cant help it if the other pro are to scared to stand up for themselves.Shit they all bitch and yet do nothing.
Class!!!! Wow Lee you have always been a man of your word. IFBB, if this doesn't get your attention I don't know what will. I watched Jay's new video were he cashed his check for around $100,000 for second place in the "top BB contest".
That is sad, when some grade 10 hockey player gets a signing bouns for 10 times the amount Jay won. Shit after taxes that is pathic!!
Yes but Hockey is a very popular, widely accepted sport. Hockey players look like normal people. Many millions of kids all over the world grow up wanting to be hockey players. Many companies like to be associated with hockey players becuase its very lucrative for them to do so.
None of those things apply to the freakish sport of modern pro bodybuilding with its heavy steroid association and GH gutted atheletes.
Pro bodybuilding will never be mainstream, and never be nearly as lucrative as other mainstream sports. Ronnie Coleman is seen as a freakish oddity by 99.9 percent of the population. The fact that he even makes as much money as he does surprises me.
Lee fucks around a lot on the message boards. Nothing left to say.
RJ is next ;)
No your wrong if i believe in something and i think it's fair i always keep my word.I cant help it if the other pro are to scared to stand up for themselves.Shit they all bitch and yet do nothing.
LEE IS NOT FUCKING AROUND.....WAIT TILL YOU HEAR WHO IS NEXT
I'm waiting...
Lee you know that you will get even more fucked over if u ever compete in an IFBB show again, so u better hope that competing in PDI pays off ::) And most of these new bbing orgs fail within the 1st year! IMO not a smart business move on your part.
Fine I'll tell ya.......
Kenny Jones!
Lee you know that you will get even more fucked over if u ever compete in an IFBB show again, so u better hope that competing in PDI pays off ::) And most of these new bbing orgs fail within the 1st year! IMO not a smart business move on your part.
It's the chicken and the egg dillema - if everyone waits around for other athletes to join and to see if things will work out, then PDI will fail for lack of participants. But if they can line up enough guys and sponsors to break critical mass, then the organization has a shot at surviving and eventually thriving. Early joiners will have first pick at the new contests and new sponsers etc. so there IS motivation not to wait around forever.
The IFBB will declare all out war if PDI looks like it might succeed. No way in hell will they share the playing field.
Not a smart business move?
More fucked over?
How is that possible, if you don't finish first or second at a pro show (which Lee rarely does, although arguably should) you leave with like a thousand bucks or nothing at all.
Why the f**k should he stay around, even if the PDI has 3 shows and he wins all three then the organization folds, he still made more than he would at 50 IFBB shows.
Besides, he'll always win the australian pro...just ask cormier.
Yes but Hockey is a very popular, widely accepted sport. Hockey players look like normal people. Many millions of kids all over the world grow up wanting to be hockey players. Many companies like to be associated with hockey players becuase its very lucrative for them to do so.
None of those things apply to the freakish sport of modern pro bodybuilding with its heavy steroid association and GH gutted atheletes.
Pro bodybuilding will never be mainstream, and never be nearly as lucrative as other mainstream sports. Ronnie Coleman is seen as a freakish oddity by 99.9 percent of the population. The fact that he even makes as much money as he does surprises me.
Sure having "muscles" ala Brad Pitt in Troy is one thing, having a giant gut and 300 pounds of veiny, striated muscle on a 5'10 body makes regualr people want to puke.
Hockey playes look normal, LMAO I ref. in the WHL for a few year. Shit people at a willy nelson concert have more teeth than most old time hockey players. You don't think hockey plays juice LOOOOOOOOL. Ya ok. Well sunshine I know better.
Yes i am signed for NOC
WHY?
Why not i have been in the IFBB for 13 years so why not try a new organization.Comnpetitio n is good.
Wayne knows what he is doing i have all the faith in the world he will do a good job with the PDI.
Now the IFBB just needs to let the athletes be athletes and compete where they want to make money while they can and not control what they do or say like usual.
So i am willing to give it a try i believe it will be a good thing.
Lee Priest
If someone joins this thing does it mean they're out of the IFBB? I don't know much about it.
I believe so. I personally think it's just a matter of time before the IFBB sends out a memo stating that anyone pro in the IFBB will be banned if they compete in PDI.
Not a smart business move?
More fucked over?
How is that possible, if you don't finish first or second at a pro show (which Lee rarely does, although arguably should) you leave with like a thousand bucks or nothing at all.
Why the f**k should he stay around, even if the PDI has 3 shows and he wins all three then the organization folds, he still made more than he would at 50 IFBB shows.
Besides, he'll always win the australian pro...just ask cormier.
I will say it now PDI will fail!! why u may ask? because who in there right mind would want to watch Lee Priest compete again Vinny G and some guy named Rhino? WTF is the point? there will be no money to be made, crowds wont show up to watch that shit and sponsors wont sponsor there shows.. I could also see IFBB incorporating into there athletes contracts that they are not to compete in PDI shows.. Its as simple as that.. Then what will PDI do? So all these people jumping on the PDI band wagon, just give it up, cause your wagon will be falling of a clif sooner or later ::)**PDI WILL FAIL!**
what PDI has to do is mix it up...A different winner at every show...If a guy like Preist doesn't come in shape and some much smaller guy does, let him win.....If that happens, you could see many IFBB guy who wouldn't even get looked at make the move over...The PDI needs a few big names but more importantly needs numbers...Chris Cormier should really think about moving on over....Talk about a guy who has been f cked over resently...Get Palumbo over and all his fan base....Kovcas other just because people would want to see what he would look like and Ruhl should think about it...he is going nowhere in the Ifbb...hell while we are at it bring Nassar over...If they can get enough people over they should really have 2 weight classes...
Where's Kevin Horton? I want to know what Claire Voyant's telling him now.
I'm here.
She tells me that at some point in the near future a statement will be made by someone wiht "InsiderZ" information saying something along the lines of "Unfortunatley due to circumcumstances beyond my control the events this year have been cancelled but due to the unprecedented interest shown in this endeavour we will be emerging with an even stronger organisation soon"
I'm here.
She tells me that at some point in the near future a statement will be made by someone wiht "InsiderZ" information saying something along the lines of "Unfortunatley due to circumcumstances beyond my control the events this year have been cancelled but due to the unprecedented interest shown in this endeavour we will be emerging with an even stronger organisation soon"
Why in the HELL are people being loyal to the IFBB??? Have you been under a rock?? Shawn Ray and Lee Priest have been letting us know how it is, and we see it with our own eyes too. The OLYMPIA has been reduced to the ORLEANS again!!! AMI doesnt give a rats ass about you or furthering the sport. (Im not going to debate the term sport)
Demilia is nobody's punk, the pros will follow him there, its just a matter of time is all. And dont start doing a name list of "well, theres only this guy or that guy" That will change in due time. I suspect MD magazine will give em support and most of those guys in there, will come in.
Congrats Lee, Galanti, Rhino, Jones and all others.
I'm here.
She tells me that at some point in the near future a statement will be made by someone wiht "InsiderZ" information saying something along the lines of "Unfortunatley due to circumcumstances beyond my control the events this year have been cancelled but due to the unprecedented interest shown in this endeavour we will be emerging with an even stronger organisation soon"
I'm here.
She tells me that at some point in the near future a statement will be made by someone wiht "InsiderZ" information saying something along the lines of "Unfortunatley due to circumcumstances beyond my control the events this year have been cancelled but due to the unprecedented interest shown in this endeavour we will be emerging with an even stronger organisation soon"
How much were you paid to say this? ::
Hey 240, when are you going to do the "official" PDI- Lee Priest site??
;)
I attended the Olympia...Ive been to second grade school plays with my daughter that were more professional.....It made me :'(
Come on be positive...this is great news 8)
Sad, isn't it?
We've reached the point where former internet nobodies like 240 have better information and less straight up BS lies than a professional photog like Kevin horton.
I wonder which of us will have a better seat at the NY Pro, Kevie?
Also, rest assured, that coke that lands on your $2000 camera will come from my direction. You know this, man.
I don't mind what you throw, just be prepared for what comes back.
Your purse? ;)
I believe you, brother! I will be attending the Night of Champions!!
Please don't let this degenerate into another "Grundy vs Goodrum" style of thread.
Thats cool man. Im a west coast guy...cant make it to new york, but look forward to watching what happens and supporting those shows. ;D
The question is what the IFBB is going to do to retain their guys now that the floodgates have opened.
The question is what the IFBB is going to do to retain their guys now that the floodgates have opened.what about chris, branch, jay, gunter, ronnie, gustavo, dex the bigger names what does the insider say about them
It's a simple economic equation for most guys. If you don't regularly place in the top 6 at the Arnold or Olympia, and don't win any other shows, there's no reason to stay in the IFBB. That being said, here's who jumps out at me...and the odds of them leaving
Mark Dugdale - 2:1 perfect situation for Mark who doesn't have size to dent top ranks in IFBB.
Markus Ruhl - 8:1 Not the body type PDI is looking for but adds to Euro base.
Tony Freeman 3:1 Exactly the body type PDI is looking for.
Johnny Jackson 4:1 Screwed repeatedly in IFBB shows.
Chris Cook 10:1 Still starting out. Will wait it out.
Craig Richardson 2:1 No brainer for Craiggers.
Mustafa Mohammed 4:1 Seems to be inching way up IFBB board.
Richard Jones 1:1 Poster boy for PDI
King Kamali 3:1 Enjoys being big fish in small pond. Feeling screwed by IFBB past years.
Bob Cicherillo 10:1 Is mouth big enough to swallow pride? Confucious says NO.
Kris Dim 2:1 Good move for Kris, who is guided by Milos the Independent Thinker
Troy Alves 4:1 Weider deal won't support PDI or else Troy is goner.
Paco Batista 7:1 International influence would help Euro shows.
George Farah 8:1 Probably wouldn't make a difference either way.
Jason Arntz 2:1 Out from under Weinberger's thumb for good.
Eddie Abbew 3:1 Another Euro with good body.
Garrett Downing 5:1 See Troy Alves.
Special "Insider Z" Ed
Jason Arntz 2:1 Out from under Weinberger's thumb for good.
floodgates? bro, you must live in the desert. Lee's a big ol' attention ho, so this announcement isn't surprising. let's wait and see who the next pro pro is.I see big pimpin' in someone's future.
Nobody has mentioned Arntz yet- he is a perfect example of the dimple-ridden blonde haired badboy good for mag sales. Hope he jumps.
Actualy it is worthy to note that the IFBB has not made any comment on the standing of the new federation PDI, so bearing that in mind under current IFBB PRO RULES , you can not alighn yourself with any competting federation , this means you can not even be in attendance at a NABBA show if you wished (for that i am gulity), so if the PDI does become sucessfull it will be intresting to se if the IFBB re evaluates these rules to accomidate the loss of top draw cards the likes of Mr Priest and the others that will be there , but i dont think they are looking at this yet , it would by my guess that the IFBB is sitting and waiting to see how this all pans out , this being a move usally attributed to being conseated, but when they realise that this all may just work , you can be assured they will try to muscle in on the compettion some how, that is called bussiness !!
I see big pimpin' in someone's future.
what about chris, branch, jay, gunter, ronnie, gustavo, dex the bigger names what does the insider say about themBranch is the new golden boy. Jay, Ronnie and Dexter are making bank. Gustavo has quickly settled in nicely near the top. Gunter is Weider's golden goose, already making lots more than the guys placing above him. Chris is toast, almost 40 and on the downswing. Martinez is the heir apparent except for his criminal record. Darrem another Weider guy who can pick up checks at smaller shows. Dennis James a wildcard who thinks he can be Mr. O. There's your top 10 IFBB.
Ive seen IFBB pro athletes at NABBA shows
Obviously they cant 'guest pose' or anything but I didnt know they wernt even suppose to attend??
Maybe I'm missing something. Isn't the total prize money in each of the PDI shows like $30k? Isn't that like the Ironman's purse? So how is he going to get rich in one $30k show, but not the other? So you're saying he's guaranteed to win all three PDI shows, but he never took home any money from the IFBB shows he's competed in until now? WTF?
That is interesting. The Ironman as been around for how many years and the PDI has just started and they are matching IFBB contests that have been around for awhile. The actual cash in the Colorado Pro isn't much more
Re: colorado pro...my money says anyone not making the top 3 there ditches the IFBB. Lots of 2nd tier guys doing the show...only top 3 can recoup their expenses. Lots will feel gypped.
Special "Colorado Moe" Ed
Thats cool man. Im a west coast guy...cant make it to new york, but look forward to watching what happens and supporting those shows. ;D
3rd tier? Dude, from the ad, it looks like the greatest show of all time...
What is that poster. Most of those guys aren't competing in that show
Good point. The DEA, NFL, ACLU, and God knows who else will be all over us.
What is that poster. Most of those guys aren't competing in that show
The poster is a little misleading , but nothing to meltdown about.A little misleading??? That poster is already in the False Advertising Hall of Fame!
A little misleading??? That poster is already in the False Advertising Hall of Fame!
Special "Colorado Flaming Moe" Ed
according to that poster i would think shawns either making a suprise comeback or even might guest pose stupid posterIf that's what u think of the poster, I'd hate to hear what you'd think if you saw Shawn's old physique promoting a company that wasn't in existence at the time his photos were taken.
If that's what u think of the poster, I'd hate to hear what you'd think if you saw Shawn's old physique promoting a company that wasn't in existence at the time his photos were taken.
Special "Shame on You" Ed
It's only a little misleading because it says "superstars like".
Exactly. And I'm sure Shawn will find a group of athlete of equal caliber quality to replace the, what, 13 names, that have pulled out.
explain to 240 how it saved a marriage
Knows_Nothing,
You smell like a real hater.
Will you be retracting your statement when things don't crash?
Since I stated using Vyotech products my uncle's cancer has gone into remission. :)
Wayne will lose money at these shows i can garauantee u that ;)
He can only lose money on the NOC show because that is the only one he's promoting. Any other promoter wanting to put a show on has to pay him $10K.
I think you smell what's cookin! and thats PDI's ass being burned by the IFBB.. Wayne got canned by the IFBB so he's trying to compete against them, its not going to work.. Wayne will lose money at these shows i can garauantee u that ;)**PDI WILL FAIL BIG FUCKIN TIME!!**
What will be the difference between the IFBB and PDI? Different contest format? Better prize money?What is their selling point? I am all for it personaly,I was just curious what they are promising the bbers,if anything,to get them to jump.Or is it just a lesser of two evils situation?
I have a funny feeling Knows Nothing is one of our favorites Pros to pick on here.
Lee you know that you will get even more fucked over if u ever compete in an IFBB show again, so u better hope that competing in PDI pays off ::) And most of these new bbing orgs fail within the 1st year! IMO not a smart business move on your part.who cares, he says he gonna retire soon anyway
Looks like a good show to me. Of course I wouln't pay money to see it or any other bodybuilding show.
It's funny to see these formerly kissass magazines taking on the message board 'feel', isn't it? A tad more abrasive and the heavy use of negative metaphors. We're in their head.
sorry but i dont read those lame editorials ever
How can you comment on them if you never read them?
Peter was writing with that "message board" feel long before the internet became popular.
The contests don't make a lot of money. The publications and supplements do.
This is the type of thing bodybuilding needs, more people like you. ::) Thanks for showing your support.
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Lee loves to stir the pot, which fans enjoy.
Check out the newest FLEX and read Peter McGough's editorial...
"Throughout 2005, Priest continued taking potshots at the Olympia, judging practices and the powers-that-be in general. In particular, he complained about the Orleans Hotel and Casino (the centerpiece of the Olympia activity), which he seemed to perceive as a bigger dump than a King Kong bowel movement."
Peter goes on to say... "To further antagonize the powers-that-be, Priest is among the pros who have been welcoming enthusiastic about so-called new bodybuilding federation, whose gestation period is currently rivaling that of a reluctant elephant, feeling that a new game in town would be good."
LIFT
The ORLEANS is a dump I for sure will tell you that the people whom run the Olympia are not staying there.
I went to
I have yet to hear ANYONE say the Orleans was acceptable. Anyone who ever mentions the hotel situation always says the Mandalay was ten times better. You stayed in the same place, hung out with, and partied with the athletes. Shame they ended that.
You're kidding, right?
Peter has been part of that same sheeple muscle magazine mentality since day one. His newfound negativity feels contrived.
true. and Lee has only furthered his bad-boy, outside-of-the-establishment image by making the jump.
Ron's right - NYC hotel rooms are barely big enough to fit you and your suitcase.
Where are you supposed to keep your hooker?suitcase
suitcase
How can you comment on them if you never read them?because i'm psychic
Wait a minute - the Orleans was fine. It is definately not the Mandalay Bay Hotel or one of the huge hotels on the strip, but it was fine for the event. The Press Conference area was great, the Orleans Arena was new and got the fans closer to their seats, and the food wasn't bad there. In fact, we wound up eating a few times in the main cafe where almost the entire place was filled with competitors, fans, press, and many others. It was a blast.
And the room were much bigger than many of us thought. So, okay, it is not a top notch hotel, but don't say it is a dump either. Damn, the hotels in New York city and the size of the rooms there make the Orleans look awesome...
Report on the Orleans Hotel..
http://www.getbig.com/olympiaweekend/2005/hotel/hotel01.htm
http://www.getbig.com/olympiaweekend/2005/hotel/hotel02.htm
Answer this for me: If MUSCLETECH decides to promote contests with PDI, what happens if Jay, Gustavo, Comier, Branch etc., because they are under Muscletech contracts, are REQUIRED to be at the shows to sign autographs and promote Muscletech? Would the IFBB fine them? IFBB doesn't pay their contracts so what happens?
Where are you supposed to keep your hooker?
King Kamali Komeback (http://www.mesomorphosis.com/aff/clickthru.pl?id=ciscorob5&page=http://www.mesomorphosis.com/store/videos/king-kamali-king-of-pain.html)
Here's a better one: What if STEVE BLECHMAN ends up promoting PDI because MD gets snubbed at the Olympias. They have D. Jackson, Comier, Warren, Priest, Henry and Gustavo and STEVE says "Hey I need your help" you think they'll turn him down?
Cause all the lighting used in the previous Olympias and staging was left at the Mandalay Bay (for FREE) for AMI to use, yet they did not use it.
Has Shawn Ray or Bob Chick commented on Lee's announcement yet?
Wayne left the IFBB dipshit. He was not willing to do certain things and could not come to an agreement so they requested he leave and he left. I have a funny feeling Knows Nothing is one of our favorites Pros to pick on here.
Nobody give a shit about Wee Priest and his gay-ass Superman costume. That is all.
Who told you the lighting was left at the Mandalay? Where was it left, in a cupboard?
Looks they're must have been some creative accounting done by your hero because the accounts showed that lighting was provided by an outside contractor and they don't have a habit of leaving that stuff laying around!
Wayne got canned from the IFBB thats old news.. He was trying to do shit behind Weiders and AMI's back.. They found out, thus he was canned... Get your fuckin facts straight.. I have inside tabs on all this shit punk... Go finish wippin your mothers dirty ass, and give her a new clean pair of granny underwear to put on..
Just shows you how dumb you really are. Good job for helping prove it. Please quit embarrsing yourself with things you have no idea about. Stick with photographing flowers and the ocassional puppy
Look at his competition as of now. Vinnie and London.....Lee is smart, EASY MONEY!
and said something about there being no Christmas trees in Australia.