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Upper body was vastly improved, plus the bicep tear he suffered shortly afterward ended his chances going forward. Most agree this was his best showing.
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that was padillas year...platz second
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what percent of the wworld's ppopulation cares about these toads?
less than 0.0001% I'd say
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what percent of the wworld's ppopulation cares about these toads?
less than 0.0001% I'd say
And only 0.0001% of that percentage cares about your opinion.
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Just under 5'7" and 218 pounds onstage that year (235 offseason). The best he ever was and would ever be.
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for the record chris dickerson was second that year.
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Didn't Tom essentially corner the world's supply of Cyp for that contest, bless him. He was basically sponsored by Watson LOL
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for the record chris dickerson was second that year.
and his elbows came in 3rd
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the first gym I joined back in summer 86 had this photo by the squat rack.
up to that point I had never seen something so freaky in my life leg wise nor since. Guys yes have had even bigger legs but not to this day as freaky as platz with the size density and separation
(http://supertraining.dk/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/zPcNZITh.jpg)
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(http://generationiron.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/tom-platz-quads.jpg)
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Platz wins that show easily. And yes, even better than Danny!
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Dude looked phenomenal in 81. It seemed everyone was so much better in 81 than 80. I don't think Mentzer, Zane or Coe would've won had they competed. Platz should've won with Danny 2. Platz always seemed like a weird fucking guy. Heven was on course to be even better in 82 but his biceps tear ruined him. He should've skipped 82 O and got his bicep fixed right away. Instead he put of the surgery and his arm never looked the same again. He had one more really good Mr.O appearance in 86 or 87 but never again came close to his 81 shape.
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1st Tom Platz
2nd Danny Padilla
Franco how ever off he was - still better than that train wreck Dickerson
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Back looked great in the back double bi. Not a ton of size but good definition.
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If you think Platz beat Padilla you = moron ::)
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Danny also looks phenomenal, could win then as well. He had proportions definitely better than Tom. But .. is about tastes here. The eternal story. More mass or better proportions ?
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Danny also looks phenomenal, could win then as well. He had proportions definitely better than Tom. But .. is about tastes here. The eternal story. More mass or better proportions ?
Platz & Padilla both very good each has strong case for the win.
Probably only by being there at the show could they be judged
Fairly & accurately.
Saying that from the pics it appears the Judges didn't judge the
Fairly & accurately looking at their placings.
Or maybe they did as they were there.
From the pics I fail to see how Franco & Dickerson got 1st & 2nd.
And Danny 5th.
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If you think Platz beat Padilla you = moron ::)
As for your assumption.. Hmmm, Question - where did Platz place in relation to Danny.
When you answer that ..... It maybe you who = Moron.
As regardless of what we think of who should of placed where
The results for that Mr Olympia are what they are.
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Danny was absolutely flawless. That was as good as a physique can get. But for the Mr. O title I would have given it to Platz because of the "wow" factor. Danny was so short and looked overwhelmed standing next to Platz. Platz not only was bigger for this show but he had a far more polished look than he ever had before. He looked like he put himself through hell that year and emerge stepping out of the flames a different person.
I know I mentioned it before, but after that show I became so disillusioned with bbing. I don't think Arnold should have won the year before but he was close enough. The travesty that was '81 and imagining what Padilla and Platz put themselves through that year to come at their all time best convinced me that sport was corrupt and based on politics and I stopped following it until around the early 2000s when I saw that Coleman vid "Unbelievable" and realize how much has changed. Missed the whole Hany, Yates and most of Coleman's era
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Platz & Padilla both very good each has strong case for the win.
Probably only by being there at the show could they be judged
Fairly & accurately.
Saying that from the pics it appears the Judges didn't judge the
Fairly & accurately looking at their placings.
Or maybe they did as they were there.
From the pics I fail to see how Franco & Dickerson got 1st & 2nd.
And Danny 5th.
Danny had a few raw deals his way...maybe Weider just didn't like him
the story he told about him getting 300(perfect score) and Robbie getting 298 and the multiple posedowns before they announced Robbie as the winner tops pretty much anything I have heard about corrupt judging.
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not even close padillas conditioning blows away tom platz's
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Danny had a few raw deals his way...maybe Weider just didn't like him
the story he told about him getting 300(perfect score) and Robbie getting 298 and the multiple posedowns before they announced Robbie as the winner tops pretty much anything I have heard about corrupt judging.
Yes that is true.
Sadly as competitors we know that at times the judging isn't always as it should be
And the winner isn't always the best all round physique on stage.
It's happened to me & no doubt you - as well as many others
as I have seen at various competions - yes it's wrong.
Only We compete knowing this - so why moan if & when it does,
It's not going to change the results.
If you can't handle that this is a likely outcome don't compete,
Like Mike Mentzer didn't anymore.
As a subjectively judged sport the corrupt judges have a get out clause.
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Danny was absolutely flawless. That was as good as a physique can get. But for the Mr. O title I would have given it to Platz because of the "wow" factor. Danny was so short and looked overwhelmed standing next to Platz. Platz not only was bigger for this show but he had a far more polished look than he ever had before. He looked like he put himself through hell that year and emerge stepping out of the flames a different person.
I know I mentioned it before, but after that show I became so disillusioned with bbing. I don't think Arnold should have won the year before but he was close enough. The travesty that was '81 and imagining what Padilla and Platz put themselves through that year to come at their all time best convinced me that sport was corrupt and based on politics and I stopped following it until around the early 2000s when I saw that Coleman vid "Unbelievable" and realize how much has changed. Missed the whole Hany, Yates and most of Coleman's era
Your first paragraph is right on the money. I was at the show and I thought Platz had it all the way. Danny looks perfect in pictures or by himself but next to Platz and Callendar, he looked kind of small. Platz definitely had the Wow factor and, as you said, his physique looked like he killed himself all year preparing for the show. That was his year.
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Tom and Jusup, the german giant
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Tom and Roy C
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The judges and and how they voted
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5th.. >:(
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Tom and Jusup, the german giant
Jesup hard as nails. Guy looked like a Greek statue carved out of marble. Unfortunately nothing happened when he posed. No pop or wow factor.
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Tom and Roy C
Roy Callender had been the owner several years prior during that peak time of his of that original gym I mentioned in the other post that I first joined in 1986. One of the guys I had befriended there who had his pics on the wall for winning the teen canada in 81 or 82 ish had been mentored/trained by roy(this was back in the day when owners/managers of gyms were more hands on and would help members with their goals usually without payment). Anyways he mentioned how Roy wouild come in during even the most shittiest winter weather, the kind where you had to put on multiple layers of clothing, being Montreal and all, remove all the snow from the car etc, come to gym, open up, train for hours(like 4-5 hours a day, he was known for long ass workouts) plus running the gym, wrap back up in the winter clothes, snow off the car, back in the shit weather and do it day after day after day during those competitive years.
Telling this second hand obviously, but the 4-5 hour training sessions and the layers of winter clothing/weather stick out 110% in my mind from what I was told.
But yeah, apparently Roy's work ethic in the gym was legendary and up there with all those guys back then. Seems like they followed the pattern of training, eat, sleep, drugs instead of the one today which seems to be drugs, eat, sleep, drugs, eat sleep, drugs eat sleep, then train
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I would have had Roy in second place.
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tom platz had a compact /thick/stumpy due to legs massive look to his build,short torso ,like kai greene ,this type needs to be in top condition to show well.he is a legend and 81 looked fantastic..
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I think it's super-rare to have a shorter BB have perfect proportions, and Danny was that man. I'm struggling to think of anyone else that height that ever came close...
And I've seen people suggest that Gaspari was one of the first to present the skinless modern conditioning, but there are shots in this thread of Tom's feathered back and striated quads that some of the modern guys don't present.
And what WAS the deal with Tom's jaw development? Did he bite down a lot when training, or what LOL?
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I think it's super-rare to have a shorter BB have perfect proportions, and Danny was that man. I'm struggling to think of anyone else that height that ever came close...
And I've seen people suggest that Gaspari was one of the first to present the skinless modern conditioning, but there are shots in this thread of Tom's feathered back and striated quads that some of the modern guys don't present.
And what WAS the deal with Tom's jaw development? Did he bite down a lot when training, or what LOL?
His whole family had the same jawline.
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Callender looked amazing in those shots.
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Yes that is true.
Sadly as competitors we know that at times the judging isn't always as it should be
And the winner isn't always the best all round physique on stage.
It's happened to me & no doubt you - as well as many others
as I have seen at various competions - yes it's wrong.
Only We compete knowing this - so why moan if & when it does,
It's not going to change the results.
If you can't handle that this is a likely outcome don't compete,
Like Mike Mentzer didn't anymore.
As a subjectively judged sport the corrupt judges have a get out clause.
agreed mate, if you compete long enough you will lose a show you should have won and win a show you shouldn't have.
I take it as it comes, its a subjective sport mate, cant cry about it.
I remember Rob Wall getting the nod over Terry Fisher at the NABBA Britain in 89, Rob came out onstage shaking his head and actually passed the winners trophy to Terry for the photos, the officials made them swap back after.
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Just under 5'7" and 218 pounds onstage that year (235 offseason). The best he ever was and would ever be.
That was Platz year, Padilla second
WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH TA NA KA
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I think it's super-rare to have a shorter BB have perfect proportions, and Danny was that man. I'm struggling to think of anyone else that height that ever came close...
And I've seen people suggest that Gaspari was one of the first to present the skinless modern conditioning, but there are shots in this thread of Tom's feathered back and striated quads that some of the modern guys don't present.
And what WAS the deal with Tom's jaw development? Did he bite down a lot when training, or what LOL?
Genetic, Frank Richards had a similar trait.
(http://ironflex.com.ua/i/Builders/Photos/frank-richards-72-2884.jpeg)
(http://ironflex.com.ua/i/Builders/Photos/frank-richards-72-2888.jpeg)
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Callender looked amazing in those shots.
Easy to over look Callender but he was also at his best. Even Padilla said that if Callender won he wouldn't have had a problem with it.
Platz, Padilla, Callendar. All arguably interchangable but all solid top three finishers.
Worse, worse Olympia ever.
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1. Callender
2. Padilla
3. Platz
Franco should not have been top 6.
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I would have had Roy in second place.
and first ?
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Chris looks really good in this relaxed back picture. Maybe the best. I remember a picture of him next to Arnold and Zane a year ago, at the 1980 MO, posted by me in another topic . It also looks the best in that relaxed shot from the back.. Probably Chris looks better from back than front.
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Chris looks really good in this relaxed back picture. Maybe the best. I remember a picture of him next to Arnold and Zane a year ago, at the 1980 MO, posted by me in another topic . It also looks the best in that relaxed shot from the back.. Probably Chris looks better from back than front.
GREAT PIC WHAT A LINEUP ,,ALL IN GREAT SHAPE ..
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Danny first, Tom second. Danny had near perfect proportions, and was carved out of granite. He was brutally robbed.
Tom was the best he's ever been and his upper body much improved, but was still glaringly bottom heavy. Solid second.
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Danny first, Tom second. Danny had near perfect proportions, and was carved out of granite. He was brutally robbed.
Tom was the best he's ever been and his upper body much improved, but was still glaringly bottom heavy. Solid second.
any bodypart that jumps out at you is a fault.
Nothing should overpower anything else, that is symmetry.
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any bodypart that jumps out at you is a fault.
Nothing should overpower anything else, that is symmetry.
true.
Though, Arnold - Haney - Dorian - Coleman - heath
All Mr O winners all with outstanding Bodyparts that jump out at you.
so much for symmetry at the Top level.
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and first ?
He already said Platz.
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true.
Though, Arnold - Haney - Dorian - Coleman - heath
All Mr O winners all with outstanding Bodyparts that jump out at you.
so much for symmetry at the Top level.
Some judges shouldnt be judges.... ;D
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To be honest, the Columbu's upperbody did not look bad (except the gynecomastia), but the legs were clearly the worst of the finalists. With poor separation and asymmetric legs. You can not win big pro BB major titles without separations on the legs. Obvious excepting Franco and Bill Pearl..
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An image that says everything.. Roy laughing knowing who will be the champion.
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To be honest, the Columbu's upperbody did not look bad (except the gynecomastia), but the legs were clearly the worst of the finalists. With poor separation and asymmetric legs. You can not win big pro BB major titles without separations on the legs. Obvious excepting Franco and Bill Pearl..
The Columbu was actually pretty ripped. For some reason his legs didn't show this as much as his upper body did.
The Columbu of peace.
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The Columbu was actually pretty ripped. For some reason his legs didn't show this as much as his upper body did.
The Columbu of peace.
he blew his knee out in a strongman contest carrying a fridge (not Cutler) the year before.
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he blew his knee out in a strongman contest carrying a fridge (not Cutler) the year before.
in 1977 , not 1980.
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and first ?
1. Platz
2. Callendar
3. Padilla
4. Dickerson
5. Franco
6. Jusup
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any bodypart that jumps out at you is a fault.
Nothing should overpower anything else, that is symmetry.
No, it's proportion.
Symmetry = the most wrongly used word in bodybuilding
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Danny just looked fantastic in most poses , his mandatories look like a how-to
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(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=628592.0;attach=722665;image)
Walker was way, way off that year compared to '80.
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Danny by himself is perfect!
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JORMA Raty looking just a tad bit wider than Heath.
Metz looking like a jacked John Holmes with disgusting bitch tits.
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I was at this show. Anyone in the top 5 other than Franco would have been expectable. Franco had no legs at all. I know he came back from a bad knee injury but you just can't ignore this imbalance. Oh wait a second they did anyway. ;D